2009 NHL Draft/Free Agency discussion

[PACKmanN]

Ewwwww we dont want cheechoo. Marleau!
lol and watch him fail in the playoffs...i dont mind giving away both.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=463425

looks like Jeremy Roenick is calling it quits.

Sad to see JR go. For the most part I enjoyed his antics. It's too bad he never got to win a cup. I always hate seeing guys who have great careers and play 20 seasons and never get a ring.

[Xiomera]

Wings signed Patrick Eaves . . . BOOOSH?

[619]

Rangers choose not to give nearly 4 millions to Nikolai Zherdev, who's now an unrestricted free agent. Should be interesting to see how much he'll get. Over/under 4.25M?

Not everyday you see a young, very talented player hit the unrestricted free agent market following arbitration. It'll be interesting to see which teams with significant cap room will try to make a move this late into the offseason. You gotta believe KHL teams will be interested as well.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

Wings signed Patrick Eaves . . . BOOOSH?

No..............

[SuperMcgee]

Rangers choose not to give nearly 4 millions to Nikolai Zherdev, who's now an unrestricted free agent. Should be interesting to see how much he'll get. Over/under 4.25M?

He also wasn't invited to Russia's Olympic camp. Certainly an interesting situation with his free agency. There are a couple of legit top-6 wingers waiting to picked up off the street in August.


Roenick NEEDS to stay prominent in hockey media. I'll still say that I'll miss him. An American great.

[TimD]

Wings signed Patrick Eaves . . . BOOOSH?

i read an article in which Nill talks about how he has loads of untapped potential and they are hoping for a Cleary/Samuelsson situation. The article also says the wings are left with 1.5-2 mil in cap space (accurate?) and that Nill is in talks with a few guys but they are asking for too much right now. That makes me wonder who they may be talking to. I guess someone who values themselves as a 2 mil a year guy and the Wings want it down to 1. Maybe Bertuzzi?

[Jensen]

Eaves blows. Nothing more than a soft 3rd liner who is average defensively and can get around 10 goals a year. I wouldn't want him on the Sharks ever.

[TimD]

he may have not done much in his career other than his rookie year but that year allows us to say he has potential. detroit will give him a chance to succeed and hopefully he makes the best of it. Cleary and Sammy weren't too highly thought of before they came to detroit and now look. plus it's a 1 year deal 500k. no big if hes only a 4th liner.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

I saw plenty of him in Ottawa and Jensen is right. Unless something drastically changed while he was in Carolina you shouldn't expect much from him.

[Jensen]

I saw plenty of him in Ottawa and Jensen is right. Unless something drastically changed while he was in Carolina you shouldn't expect much from him.

And considering Carolina has had two ***** coaches since he's been there I doubt he's gotten any tougher...something Detroit could use. Eaves has been given opportunities to succeed, and he's failed. Sure you can say he has potential, but I think just about everybody except Red Wings fans now know that he won't be anything more than a soft 3rd liner. There's no reason Detroit fans could even justify Eaves being/becoming a good player. Just because some players come to Detroit and get better (I wouldn't exactly call Samuelsson a good player, Cleary maybe) doesn't mean they all will.

[TimD]

all im saying is they wouldn't have signed him unless they really thought they could get something out of him. yes i know odds are they won't and he'll be a soft 3rd liner. im aware he hasn't done jack in his career so far. all i was saying is there is a chance he could turn it around. he's only 25. plus i think cleary happens to be a very solid player. you can't find too many guys that will play 3rd/4th line duty as hard as they'll play 1st/2nd line and not complain. cleary works his ******* ass off. maybe he'll take eaves under his wing lol

i really wasn't trying to be a red wings homer i just was looking towards the positives of the signing.

Wings assistant GM Jim Nill said in today’s Free Press that they want to get Eaves “in a structured environment. We look at him as a Dan Cleary.”

[MaxV]

Zherdev could be a nice addition for someone.

Up until now, he has only played for defensive-minded teams. It would interesting to see what he could do playing for a team that gives him more freedom.

I think he is capable of putting up nice numbers, skill is there.

[Xiomera]

Eaves cost 500K. For that price, I'll take my chances in hopes the Wings can return his production to the 20 goals he had a couple years back.

We resurrected Samuelsson and Cleary before. This seems like it could be a similar scenario.

But again, its 500K.

[Tha Wootster]

Eaves ******* blow.

[Jensen]

I like how so far everybody else except Red Wings fans (not just you guys Xio and TD) have said Eaves blows. Guarentee you if Eaves would've signed with someone else Wings fans would have no idea who he is and he would be a fringe NHLer according to them who would do nothing more with his career.

[Xiomera]

I like how so far everybody else except Red Wings fans (not just you guys Xio and TD) have said Eaves blows. Guarentee you if Eaves would've signed with someone else Wings fans would have no idea who he is and he would be a fringe NHLer according to them who would do nothing more with his career.

Don't be naive. I know who he is. And I know that he's scored 20 goals in the past, but has not lived up to that lately.

He's signed to a 500K, one year deal.

Hence, my limited excitement.

Red Wings haters are in full force again. :rolleyes:

[Tha Wootster]

homers haters let me correct you Xio. and sorry if we speak the truth.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

Eaves is nothing like Cleary. You will never see Patrick Eaves anywhere near the corners.

[TimD]

Don't be naive. I know who he is. And I know that he's scored 20 goals in the past, but has not lived up to that lately.

He's signed to a 500K, one year deal.

Hence, my limited excitement.

Red Wings haters are in full force again. :rolleyes:

of course i knew who he was, he was in the young nhl all star game. i never said he'd be a savior or anything more then a 3rd line player, i just said he has potential.

[Xiomera]

homers haters let me correct you Xio. and sorry if we speak the truth.

Find a homerish statement I made about Eaves.

Otherwise, shut the **** up.

[EdReedUnstoppable]

Find a homerish statement I made about Eaves.

Otherwise, shut the **** up.

Homer! :)

[HChu]

Sorry Phoenix, but a judge allowed Balsillie in the auction for the 'Yotes. That sound you hear is rejoicing in the streets of Hamilton, Ontario.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=286860

Potential new Western Conference markets? Maybe Kansas City?

[Tha Wootster]

Find a homerish statement I made about Eaves.

Otherwise, shut the **** up.

How about you shut the hell up.

How about it wasn't intended at you ?

[Xiomera]

Wings sign Jason Williams for cheap. 1 year deal.

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2009/08/red_wings_sign_jason_williams.html

I think we're just throwing a bunch of 4th line wingers into the mix hoping they pan out. Which is really all we can do to try and replace Hudler, Hossa, and Sammy with no money.

[Tha Wootster]

See this guy is not that bad in term of talent but he is always injured could be a good player if healthy for you guys.

[Xiomera]

See this guy is not that bad in term of talent but he is always injured could be a good player if healthy for you guys.

He did record 58 points one year with the Wings. I think he could score 20 goals if he's playing with Filppula.

[Jensen]

When is Detroit going to sign somebody that will actually drop the gloves more than one or two times a season...

[Xiomera]

When is Detroit going to sign somebody that will actually drop the gloves more than one or two times a season...

Jonathan Ericsson says 'Hi.'

And to answer your question, whenever there is a correlation between fighting and winning.

[Jensen]

Jonathan Ericsson says 'Hi.'

And to answer your question, whenever there is a correlation between fighting and winning.

Hi Jonathan?

Anaheim Ducks.

[Xiomera]

Hi Jonathan?

Anaheim Ducks.

One team is proof of a correlation? How many Cups have the Ducks won compared to the Wings of late?

[Jensen]

One team is proof of a correlation? How many Cups have the Ducks won compared to the Wings of late?

It looks like 1-1 to me.

[Xiomera]

It looks like 1-1 to me.

1997, 1998, 2002, 2008, and damn near another in 2009.

See it how you wish though.

[Sniper]

1997, 1998, 2002, 2008, and damn near another in 2009.

See it how you wish though.

I'm assuming Jensen is using the post-lockout period.

Also, the point of putting a Stanley Cup Finals loss was....?

[Jensen]

One team is proof of a correlation? How many Cups have the Ducks won compared to the Wings of late?

You said as of late. I don't really consider 2001-02 as of late, especially ******* 1997.

[Xiomera]

I'm assuming Jensen is using the post-lockout period.

Also, the point of putting a Stanley Cup Finals loss was....?

That we damn near won another and beat the Ducks in the process of getting there . . . did I really need to explain that?

[Sniper]

That we damn near won another and beat the Ducks in the process of getting there . . . did I really need to explain that?

Yeah, you do. Almost winning doesn't do ****.

[JF4]

Yeah, you do. Almost winning doesn't do ****.

It's true. Ask Sens fans.

[Scotty D]

Hockeytown!

[Tha Wootster]

http://media.canada.com/idl/mtgz/20090707/28801-9306.jpg

sexy.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

JR will be pursuing a TV career now and he has also contacted Dancing with the Stars lol.

ywzbCfqwFIM

[SuperMcgee]

I wish I got to drive around in a tank while holding the Stanley Cup on my birthday.

[Tha Wootster]

So Theoren Fleury wants to get back in the NHL...interesting.

[TimD]

So Theoren Fleury wants to get back in the NHL...interesting.

I heard somewhere that the last pro league he played in was the league in Ireland for the Belfast Giants haha

[Tha Wootster]

Sources tell TSN the Toronto Maple Leafs are about to deal goaltender Justin Pogge to the Anaheim Ducks. The terms of the trade have been agreed on with Pogge going to the Ducks in exchange for a conditional late round draft pick that can improve based on Pogge's play.

[Tha Wootster]

Patrick Kane was arrested ah.

Chicago Blackhawks forward Patrick Kane and his cousin were arrested early Sunday morning for assaulting and robbing a cab driver in Buffalo, according to several news sources in that city.

According to a police report, the 20-year-old Kane and his cousin James M. Kane, 21, were arrested around 5am et after allegedly punching the cabbie after he said he did not have proper change for their trip fare.

The report says the cab fare was $13.80 and the Kanes handed the driver $15. He claims he had only $1 change and was not in possession of another twenty cents to give back. According to the police report, both Kanes took their money back and punched the cabbie in the face and head.

Both men have been charged with second-degree robbery, fourth-degree criminal mischief and theft of services.

Kane, a Buffalo native, had attended a press conference with the mayor earlier in the evening to announce funding for a local rink.

WGRZ.com says the driver appeared to have suffered cuts to his face as well as damage to his glasses.

[TimD]

20 cents really?

[Geo]

Unbelievable re: Kane. Unbelievable.

Btw here's the TSN link. (http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=287230)

Isn't he on the cover to NHL 2010 too? That should change.

Sources tell TSN the Toronto Maple Leafs are about to deal goaltender Justin Pogge to the Anaheim Ducks. The terms of the trade have been agreed on with Pogge going to the Ducks in exchange for a conditional late round draft pick that can improve based on Pogge's play.
I lost all hope in the kid last year, and reportedly he asked Burke to trade him once they landed Gustavsson, so I'm fine with this. Especially with Burke signing Joey McDonald as insurance.

[Xiomera]

"Where's my 20 cents? I gotta put that in my piggy bank!"

[sweetness34]

If this story is true Kane is ******* ********. As talented as he is from the things I've read and heard he's kind of a little *****.

I'll wait to comment further as more details come out but Kane is just plain dumb. I hope he gets punished to the full extent of the law if he did that to the cab driver over 20 cents.

Thanks for ******* over the franchise you selfish piece of trash. Between what Havlat's said, the Hossa signing, Tallon being fired, and now this incident, this offseason has been a train wreck.

[Borat]

I couldn't resist.

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n247/sabufoo/PatKanePoster.jpg

[the decider13]

Can't believe he would punch out a cabby over 20 cents. He can't give the guy a tip? I wonder what EA is going to have to say about him on NHL 10. I remember when Heatly got in to legal trouble (though it was worse) he was taken off the case part way through production and replaced by sakic.

[619]

Sources tell TSN the Toronto Maple Leafs are about to deal goaltender Justin Pogge to the Anaheim Ducks. The terms of the trade have been agreed on with Pogge going to the Ducks in exchange for a conditional late round draft pick that can improve based on Pogge's play.

This is one more way of Burke communicating to the fanbase that “The Monster” is our goalie now and into the future. The writing was on the wall from day one of the signing.

Pogge faced too much pressure too soon in front of a terrible team defensively when the kid clearly wasn’t prepared for the big stage. A lack of confidence was most certainly an issue as well. Hopefully this turns out well for both parties involved, although it’d hurt if Pogge came into his own on a different team. It’s an all too familiar sight for Leafs’ fans, especially in regards to our youth.

It’s crazy to think that we once had two of the most promising goaltending prospects in hockey and all they could fetch us were Andrew Raycroft and a ‘conditional late round draft pick’.

[Tha Wootster]

This is probably why Toews is the captain and not kane.

[sweetness34]

This is probably why Toews is the captain and not kane.

And it's also why I would keep Toews over Kane any day of the week. I think Kane tends to be overrated. Kid has sick offensive skills but he doesn't forecheck and he doesn't get back on defense. Toews is a two way player with incredible intangibles.

[slightlyaraiderfan]

Colten Teubert KILLED (http://watch.tsn.ca/international-hockey/clip201593#clip201593) Justin Caron this past weekend for Team Canada tryouts, with a broken collar bone. Teubert is a mean guy, hopefully he develops right, every team would love a guy like him.

Can't wait for hockey.

[Tha Wootster]

Man he nailed him.

Pretty goal by leblanc btw :D

[sweetness34]

Update on the Kane story;

Reports are that the cabbie locked the Kane's in the car until they paid. The Kane's got upset and asked for their tip back ($1.20). Cabbie didn't have the $.20 and they snapped.

Regardless of whether or not they were locked in the car, it still gives you no right to sucker punch an elderly man from behind, choke him, beat him up, and then take his money. Sad thing is the Kane's may get off on some of the charges because the cabbie locked them in.

I can guarantee they were both drunk as well which didn't help the situation (in Kane's case he's still under the legal drinking age).

I personally think a 20-30 game suspension (possibly higher) should be in order for Kane this year. At some point you have to send a message that this type of behavior is unacceptable, especially when the culprit is the face of an organization.

[Geo]

Reports are that the cabbie locked the Kane's in the car until they paid. The Kane's got upset and asked for their tip back ($1.20).
This doesn't make sense to me. If they paid he would have unlocked the doors, right?

[Sniper]

I personally think a 20-30 game suspension (possibly higher) should be in order for Kane this year.

LOL, good one.

[sweetness34]

LOL, good one.

What, because I'm a Hawks fan I'm full of ****?

I've never really liked Kane all that much. He's extremely talented and fun to watch, but he's also a ***** on the ice and doesn't play two-way hockey. Plus his personality as a whiner when things don't go his way is annoying.

And Geo, Buffalo cab drivers sometimes lock doors before customers pay their fare because college kids have a tendency to jump out before they pay, so this is the cab driver's way of making sure they get their money. This is what the victim's attorney said in an interview. He also said that it's unfortunate his client didn't know who Kane was.

Money and fame can buy you freedom, and Kane will likely get off with community service and probation. Kane deserves to be punished by the law and by the league to the full extent and it likely will not happen. I refuse to sacrifice integrity for winning especially in this regard, and if Kane gets a big suspension you won't hear any complaining from me.

[Sniper]

What, because I'm a Hawks fan I'm full of ****?

No, you're full of **** because you're saying he should get 20-30 games or more. That's ridiculous.

He also said that it's unfortunate his client didn't know who Kane was.

That's his fault for not knowing the LEGEND OF PATRICK KANE! That's what you get.

[sweetness34]

No, you're full of **** because you're saying he should get 20-30 games or more. That's ridiculous.

It's what should happen in my eyes, not what will happen. I'm pretty sick and tired of athletes abusing their status. Kane reportedly said "you don't know who I am, you don't know who you're messing with."

Kane will likely get a slap on the wrist from the league, maybe a couple game suspension, and a fine. If this happened to you or me, we'd be in jail facing felony charges. But since it happened to a kid with immense talent, he'll get off with practically nothing because he can buy his freedom.

I could care less if he's the face of our franchise to be honest, what he did is inexcusable and he deserves to be punished. Cool, you think I'm full of ****, but that's my view on it.

[SuperMcgee]

It's what should happen in my eyes, not what will happen. I'm pretty sick and tired of athletes abusing their status. Kane reportedly said "you don't know who I am, you don't know who you're messing with."

The Kanes are such dicks. But I find this whole situation hilarious.

[SuperMcgee]

Mike Grier! Yes!

Not much of a helpful signing, but everyone loves Mike Grier.

[Jensen]

Mike Grier! Yes!

Not much of a helpful signing, but everyone loves Mike Grier.

He was pretty brutal last season.

[SuperMcgee]

He's not really what we need, either. But there's some sense of euphoria in the city right now. He'll probably be no better than Hecht was this past year, which was also pretty brutal, but people love it because they only have fond memories of Grier and it means we're actually signing somebody that can play most nights.
Puts a hold on the Kennedy/Gerbe call ups, which can be a good thing, but I could stand to see Kennedy playing on our 3rd line.
Seems like we have our 21 skaters, now, if we sign Stafford.
We basically swapped out Spacek, Afinogenov, and Peters for Montador, Grier, and McCormick. Great.

[Xiomera]

This is probably why Toews is the captain and not kane.

This is karma's way of ******* with Kane after he speared Mr. Perfect in the balls.

[Borat]

Mike Grier was single-handedly the most frustrating player to ever wear the Sharks sweater. The guy was one of my favorites for his solid defensive work and PK ability, but holy ****, I've never EVER seen a player EARN more breakaways and do absolutely nothing with them. If he had any sort of shot at all, he'd be a perennial 20-goal scorer.

But I wish him well. He's a good player and a great role player that can really help you rack up the wins.

[Stash]

Mike Grier was single-handedly the most frustrating player to ever wear the Sharks sweater. The guy was one of my favorites for his solid defensive work and PK ability, but holy ****, I've never EVER seen a player EARN more breakaways and do absolutely nothing with them. If he had any sort of shot at all, he'd be a perennial 20-goal scorer.

But I wish him well. He's a good player and a great role player that can really help you rack up the wins.
+1, my feelings exactly.

[SuperMcgee]

Mike Grier was single-handedly the most frustrating player to ever wear the Sharks sweater. The guy was one of my favorites for his solid defensive work and PK ability, but holy ****, I've never EVER seen a player EARN more breakaways and do absolutely nothing with them. If he had any sort of shot at all, he'd be a perennial 20-goal scorer.

But I wish him well. He's a good player and a great role player that can really help you rack up the wins.

haha. "It's Grier, get a beer"

That's one thing that I was sure hasn't changed. Slowest breakaways ever and of course he didn't finish. They happened all the time.

[fischbowl]

Mike Grier! Yes!

Not much of a helpful signing, but everyone loves Mike Grier.

I can finally break out the ol' Black and Red Grier alternate again!

[EdReedUnstoppable]

I loved Mike Grier when he was a Cap!

[fischbowl]

I loved Mike Grier when he was a Cap!

And I can't wait until John Erskine is a Sabre!

http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Washington+Capitals+v+New+Jersey+Devils+DC_BFxJQlY 2l.jpg

Mike Grier is just to ghetto for you. He makes Kevin Weekes look like an Osmond

[EdReedUnstoppable]

John Erskine is such a sexy beast!.......uh I mean tough guy defenseman!!

[SuperMcgee]

Zherdev to the K, supposedly playing with Radulov. Oh, young Russian talent.

[MaxV]

They'll both be back.

[Tha Wootster]

NtUE6CpgZU0

lol.

[Xiomera]

They'll both be back.

Can't Sean Avery go play in the KHL too?

[TimD]

Can't Sean Avery go play in the KHL too?

or hudler

wait...

[EdReedUnstoppable]

Can't Sean Avery go play in the KHL too?

Sean Avery can come right on down to DC and be a Capital whenever he wants!!

[Stash]

Sharks sign Karlsson, a big friggin Swede goaltender.

http://sharks.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=469920

[HChu]

The Hershey Bears signed RW Brandon Sugden, who received a lifetime ban from the ECHL for throwing his stick at a female fan. Sounds like an interesting signing...

[EdReedUnstoppable]

The Hershey Bears signed RW Brandon Sugden, who received a lifetime ban from the ECHL for throwing his stick at a female fan. Sounds like an interesting signing...

Caps do need an enforcer!

[Borat]

Caps do need an enforcer!

Should come in handy if they get attacked by a gang of female ninjas.

[EdReedUnstoppable]

Should come in handy if they get attacked by a gang of female ninjas.

Or when teams try to take liberties with Ovechkin, Backstrom, Semin, Green, Varly.

[Tha Wootster]

Artyukhin to Anaheim.

[Sniper]

http://tsn.ca/canadian_hockey/story/?id=287782

Canada smokes Russia 9-2 to win the Ivan Hlinka tournament.

[fischbowl]

Who's down for a draft?

[jimmylishis]

Who's down for a draft?

i am for sure

[Job]

Who's down for a draft?

Count me in.

[Sniper]

Fo sho, fo sho. I'm gettin' that fo sho.

[Chucky]

I'm down as well

[619]

I want in on this. It's been a while.

[fischbowl]

I want in on this. It's been a while.

You know what, it has been a while.

McGee, Xio, all other hockey fans, you know you're always in

[Tha Wootster]

Prospal to the Rangers.

btw I would be down for a draft !

[Todd Bertuzzi]

**** it, I'm in.

[roughrider30]

Prospal to the Rangers.

btw I would be down for a draft !

link???????

[Tha Wootster]

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=287885

[Chucky]

Anyone want to step up and volunteer to run the draft?

[Sniper]

I'll run it if need be. I thought fischy was gonna start it.

[Geo]

Maple Leafs legend Ted "Teeder" Kennedy, one of the finest players and one of the finest captains in the history of the NHL, recently passed away at the age of 83. (http://www.thestar.com/Sports/Hockey/article/681607)

Sincere condolences to his family and close friends. RIP #9.


Maple Leafs Legends: Teeder Kennedy (http://mapleleafslegends.blogspot.com/2006/05/teeder-kennedy.html)

P5BuUysYEeM

[fischbowl]

I'll run it if need be. I thought fischy was gonna start it.

Me, start something? Seriously :)

[Sniper]

http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34957

Join.

[Hines]

Wow, the Penguins' AHL team should be stacked next season. Exciting.

[MaxV]

Wow, the Penguins' AHL team should be stacked next season. Exciting.

Most of the top prospects will play there next season and it'll make for an interesting season to follow.

I hope certain players step up and make contributions in Pittsburgh.

I think there might be one more forward spot open. There might be an interesting battle in camp for that spot.

I hear Jeffries and Johnson have looked impressive.

[HChu]

Wow, the Penguins' AHL team should be stacked next season. Exciting.

Don't worry, you'll still get dominated by THE Hershey Bears.

[Xiomera]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2009/08/red_wings_negotiating_with_for.html

[Stash]

Marleau no longer Sharks captain.

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/sharks/

[Sniper]

Marleau no longer Sharks captain.

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/sharks/

Give it to M.E.V!

[Borat]

Ryan Clowe should get the "C"

He's got the most heart on the team.

[Xiomera]

Ryan Clowe should get the "C"

He's got the most heart on the team.

Joe Thornton doesn't say 'Hi.'

[Borat]

Joe Thornton doesn't say 'Hi.'

Ouch Babe. Very ouch.

[Hines]

Most of the top prospects will play there next season and it'll make for an interesting season to follow.

I hope certain players step up and make contributions in Pittsburgh.

I think there might be one more forward spot open. There might be an interesting battle in camp for that spot.

I hear Jeffries and Johnson have looked impressive.

I hope they both make it, but they wont because of Dupuis-Ruup-Adams being our fourth line.

Don't worry, you'll still get dominated by THE Hershey Bears.


Ya, ya, ya.

[Xiomera]

Ouch Babe. Very ouch.

Sorry. Feel free to make fun of my team's pursuit of Bertuzzi.

[SuperMcgee]

Sorry. Feel free to make fun of my team's pursuit of Bertuzzi.

Coolest things the Wings have done in a while.

[Xiomera]

Coolest things the Wings have done in a while.

Like when we let Matt Ellis go?

[Borat]

Sorry. Feel free to make fun of my team's pursuit of Bertuzzi.

No thanks. I have mad respect for the Wings. Sharks just continually piss me off. Your comment was right on, though it was painful.

[Stash]

Ryan Clowe should get the "C"

He's got the most heart on the team.
Dan Boyle?

[EdReedUnstoppable]

http://www.pafop.org/images/bears_color.jpg






GRRRR!!!

[TimD]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2009/08/red_wings_negotiating_with_for.html


Is it bad if I'm excited for Bert. I know he'll only get 40 points but I've always liked the guy plus I wear his number

[Xiomera]

Is it bad if I'm excited for Bert. I know he'll only get 40 points but I've always liked the guy plus I wear his number

Yes. Very, very wrong.

I didn't miss his penchant for taking idiotic penalties and ignoring the defensive end of the ice.

[iBoldin]

Yes. Very, very wrong.

I didn't miss his penchant for taking idiotic penalties and ignoring the defensive end of the ice.

I personally find it funny that he's still somewhat cashing in on those two great years he had in Vancouver.

I've always had a soft spot for old Bert though. He was my favourite player when he was here.

[SuperMcgee]

His production is good enough that, if he is possibly being squeezed into Detroit's budget, you shouldn't consider it cashing in from 7 years ago.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

http://www.examiner.com/x-3667-Vancouver-2010-Olympics-Travel-Examiner~y2009m8d18-Team-Canada-unveils-hockey-jersey-available-online
http://a123.g.akamai.net/f/123/12465/1d/www.faceoff.com/hockey/teams/calgary-flames/1902217.bin?size=hhl

Hockey Canada unveiled the olympic jerseys. I wish the IIHF or whoever would just let us wear our hockey canada logo on the front.

[Geo]

Good article on the culture change of the Leafs (http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/Toronto/2009/08/19/10522566-sun.html)

Down Goes Brown does it again: Behind the Scenes at the Team USA Olympic Orientation Camp (http://www.downgoesbrown.com/2009/08/usa-olympics-hockey-camp.html)

[Todd Bertuzzi]

Heatley's press conference

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=288356

[Job]

Summary : The guy's an idiot.

[jimmylishis]

bump/ also the new wild alternate jerseys were leaked today

http://www.icethetics.info/blog/2009/8/25/wild-3rd-jersey-leaked.html

i think they look really nice i like that theyre bringing green back. kind of reminiscent of the all star jerseys when it was in St. Paul

[Stash]

I like the Minnesota text, has a nice classic look to it.

[RufusMcDaniel]

IMO, Minnesota can do no wrong with their jerseys. They always have looked good.

[PACKmanN]

bump/ also the new wild alternate jerseys were leaked today

http://www.icethetics.info/blog/2009/8/25/wild-3rd-jersey-leaked.html

i think they look really nice i like that theyre bringing green back. kind of reminiscent of the all star jerseys when it was in St. Paul

reminds me of a green verision of the Penguins' blue jerseys.

[mcdlaxbonz13]

Since it is a really slow i was wondering if you guys think its possible for the three staal brothers to make team canada

[Todd Bertuzzi]

Eric's the only one who will make it.

[PACKmanN]

hey Pat waive your NTC, the Sharks don't need you.

[Stash]

hey Pat waive your NTC, the Sharks don't need you.
Hush your mouth.

[619]

hey Pat waive your NTC, the Sharks don't need you.

Pat isn't the problem. A lack of veteran leadership is the problem and that goes far beyond just him.

[Job]

Foppa's making a return in the SEL, and if he can stay injury-free until next year (which we all know he won't) will be aiming for a NHL comeback.

In other news Vancouver signs Matt Schneider and also trade ****** players to San Jose for some of their ****** D-men.

[iBoldin]

Foppa's making a return in the SEL, and if he can stay injury-free until next year (which we all know he won't) will be aiming for a NHL comeback.

In other news Vancouver signs Matt Schneider and also trade ****** players to San Jose for some of their ****** D-men.

We traded a ****** players for an interesting young defenseman who has improved every year (that I've seen, maybe Sharks fans can vouch for me) and a veteran depth defenseman which we sorely lacked. I don't think we actually sign Schneider now.

We're about 1 million over the cap, but improved our team immensely.

[Job]

From what I heard of San Jose, Ehroff regressed enormously last year (at least defensively) and most wanted him out of town.

[Borat]

From what I heard of San Jose, Ehroff regressed enormously last year (at least defensively) and most wanted him out of town.

Ehh. Sort of. The first two months he played pretty well. The rest of the season was very meh. He's pretty average defensively. He has a hard shot though. But his knock was always that he couldn't get that shot on net. He improved that aspect last year as he would take a shorter windup, sacrifice some velocity and get a more accurate shot on goal. It worked at first, but again, it regressed as the season went on.

I don't think most Sharks fans wanted him gone, rather we just kind of expected it as the team is in SERIOUS cap trouble.

In the end, that deal is a very good one for Vancouver though. My only hope is that this deal is part of another deal for the Sharks cause the value isn't anywhere close to even from the Sharks perspective.

[Stash]

Definitely a good move for Vancouver, pure salary dump by the Sharks. Don't know much about White or Rahimi, but from what I've heard neither one is very impressive. I'm hoping like Borat that this is setting up another move because this one just made our team significantly worse.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

Definitely a salary dump by the Sharks. Heatley? Kessel?

[Borat]

I think Kessel is more likely than Heatley cause the thinking is that Kessel would sign an extension for something aroung $5+M and Heatley already makes significantly more.

[EdReedUnstoppable]

The Capitals are so boring in the offseason......

[roughrider30]

The Capitals are so boring in the offseason......

and so exciting during the season

[PACKmanN]

Definitely a salary dump by the Sharks. Heatley? Kessel?

I loved Kessel during the draft, and if we were to land him, omg.

[Jensen]

WTF DW. The most ******** ******* trade ever. Glad to know the Sharks traded a top 4 defenseman and a legit NHL defenseman for two ****** prospects. Even though it is a salary dump, DW couldn't have gotten any more for those two? Really? I find that hard to believe. The Sharks prospect system is so much better now that they've added two guys who both blow.

[Hines]

The Capitals are so boring in the offseason......

I really believe Mike Knuble is a very, very good pickup for the Caps. He will go well with AO if they play on the same line.

[Borat]

WTF DW. The most ******** ******* trade ever. Glad to know the Sharks traded a top 4 defenseman and a legit NHL defenseman for two ****** prospects. Even though it is a salary dump, DW couldn't have gotten any more for those two? Really? I find that hard to believe. The Sharks prospect system is so much better now that they've added two guys who both blow.

Just clearing the way for my man-crush to join the big squad: Ladies, get ready to be impregnated by the immortal, Nick ************* Petrecki

[Todd Bertuzzi]

Tanguay to Tampa. They should be improved this year.

[Vikes99ej]

http://www.turtleisland.org/photo/toots1.jpg

Discuss how awesome Jordin Tootoo is.

[slightlyaraiderfan]

**** tootoo!

[Vikes99ej]

**** tootoo!

How about


http://images.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/_photos/2006-10-25-kopitar.jpg


This guy?

[Tha Wootster]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Mikael_Backlund.PNG

This guy. This year. Will blow your mind.

[Borat]

http://www.turtleisland.org/photo/toots1.jpg

Discuss how awesome Jordin Tootoo is.

ZyU0yfGZu9g

[Tha Wootster]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ee/Erik_Karlsson_2.jpg/250px-Erik_Karlsson_2.jpg

This guy too. Watch out.

[Vikes99ej]

This guy:


rR1EGzp9DLY


will blow your mind EVERY year.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ee/Erik_Karlsson_2.jpg/250px-Erik_Karlsson_2.jpg

This guy too. Watch out.

I was just about to post that. Karlsson <3

No one beats this guy though...

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0810/nhl.rookies.to.watch/images/claude-giroux.jpg

[Todd Bertuzzi]

This guy isn't so bad either

http://www.bellevillebulls.com/images/P.K.Subban_002.jpg

[slightlyaraiderfan]

How about


http://images.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/_photos/2006-10-25-kopitar.jpg


This guy?
sexyiest ugly guy, ever

[Borat]

Commence drooling:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/hall11pa/Nick_Petrecki_2.jpg

[Tha Wootster]

This guy isn't so bad either

http://www.bellevillebulls.com/images/P.K.Subban_002.jpg

<3<3<3<3

I just went from 6 to midnight.

[Vikes99ej]

Hey someone find me a site for cheap hockey jerseys

[SuperMcgee]

sexyiest ugly guy, ever

I just went off on this tangent in my mind, wondering what it would be like to have Malkin and Kopitar go head-to-head in a "try to make a sexy face" contest. I would watch.

[slightlyaraiderfan]

Hey someone find me a site for cheap hockey jerseys
sometimes you'll get lucky with hockeygiant.com

I just went off on this tangent in my mind, wondering what it would be like to have Malkin and Kopitar go head-to-head in a "try to make a sexy face" contest. I would watch.
i would too!

[SuperMcgee]

Tanguay to Tampa. They should be improved this year.

They got Drew Miller. Championship.

[EdReedUnstoppable]

and so exciting during the season

Not really, because I know how the story ends........loss in the playoffs to Pittsburgh as always.

I really believe Mike Knuble is a very, very good pickup for the Caps. He will go well with AO if they play on the same line.

I absolutely friggin love the Knuble pickup, but we're goin in with the same ol garbage on D as always, unless they put John Carlson on the NHL roster in which case........Im gettin Cup Crazy in October!!!!

[PACKmanN]

Hey someone find me a site for cheap hockey jerseys

ebay is your best friend.

[iBoldin]

Vancouver, B.C. - Vancouver Canucks President and General Manager Mike Gillis announced today that goaltender Roberto Luongo has agreed to terms on a 12 year contract extension through the 2021-2022 season.

“Today is a very exciting day for the Canucks organization,” said Mike Gillis. “Roberto Luongo is the leader of our hockey team; he is in the prime of his playing career and has a tremendous desire to make the Canucks a championship team. His leadership, competitiveness and character are what this team will represent for many years to come.”

“This is a great day for me and my family,” said Roberto Luongo. “I love playing in a passionate hockey city like Vancouver and along with my teammates I am committed to doing everything I can to help make this a championship team.”

http://canucks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=497482&navid=van-home-dl

Gillis jizzes on the NHL again. Discuss.

[Scotty D]

Hockey GMs are ******** with these 10+ year contracts. **** happens

[Todd Bertuzzi]

I don't mind the long contracts especially if it's for a franchise player like Luongo. Some contracts like Franzen and DiPietro on the other hand...

Any word on the terms of Luongo's extension yet?

[Tha Wootster]

2010-2011: 10 millions
2011-2012: 6.716 millions
2012-2018: 6.714 millions
2018-2019: 3.382 millions
2019-2020: 1.618 million
2020-2021 1 million
2021-2022 1 million

[iBoldin]

I don't mind the long contracts especially if it's for a franchise player like Luongo. Some contracts like Franzen and DiPietro on the other hand...

Any word on the terms of Luongo's extension yet?

In the neighbourhood of $65 million, which comes out to a $5.333 million dollar cap hit. Not sure yet on the NMC, yet to be released.

Still, it's a perfect contract. He makes the same cap hit as one Shawn Horcoff.

[SuperMcgee]

Brassard got a nice new deal. Playing with Nash, they could break 150 points this year.

[Hines]

Pens open training camp the 15th. Excited for the Steelers and Pens to start up finally.

[EdReedUnstoppable]

The best time of the year is almost here!!! October when Ive got College/Pro football and my favorite sport HOCKEY!!!!!!! CANT GET HERE SOON ENOUGH!!!!

[Todd Bertuzzi]

I want to try and make it out to an exhibition game or something so I can get a look at Leclaire. Also lot's of rookie camps are starting now. I know Ottawa is doing theirs in Kitchener with Toronto, Pittsburgh and Boston.

[Job]

The Wings confirm their man-love for goalies with cage masks, reportedly giving Dan Cloutier a tryout.

[slightlyaraiderfan]

kings rookie camp opens tomorrow morning, can't wait.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

Rumors are saying Burke is contemplating giving an offer sheet to Kessel.

[Sniper]

Rumors are saying Burke is contemplating giving an offer sheet to Kessel.

He should. They badly need scoring.

[Geo]

The recent development:

The Leafs trade their 2011 3rd round pick and Calgary's 2011 2nd round pick (from the Stralman/Primeau deal) to get back Toronto's 2010 2nd round pick from the Chicago Blackhawks. (http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=290103)

And of course, there was the Kaberle/Kessel trade talk during the Draft.

I am for a Leafs offer sheet to Kessel.

[Tha Wootster]

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Upper+Deck+NHL+Rookie+Debut+uWRdKZA7r4ol.jpg

omgzzzz !

[Vikes99ej]

Alright, I want you guys to think. What qualities make a great defenseman in today's NHL?

[PACKmanN]

Soft hands, being able to move the puck around, and having a good shot from the point.

[Job]

Soft hands, being able to move the puck around, and having a good shot from the point.

That only makes a decent offensive d-man.

A great defenseman needs a combination of so many things, ranging from near-perfect positionning and excellent man-to-man abilities to good passing skills/vision (especially important for the breakout pass) and an above-average, accurate shot and, of course, good skating and acceleration.

Size and strength are always a plus too.

I don't think soft hands are a prerequisite for a great d-man at all, though it is always welcome indeed.

[SuperMcgee]

I'd just suggest watching Lidstrom play, but I'll lend my thoughts.

Ideally you'd like to start with great size, with all the physical and reach benefits that come with it. Smooth skating in all directions, patience, a heavy shot, good breakout passes, anticipation, solid/hard checking, great positioning in your zone. An ability to join the rush and willing but sensible shot blocking, but you have to be careful with both of those. Great vision and playmaking from the point. All of these work toward making a great defenseman.

[PACKmanN]

That only makes a decent offensive d-man.

A great defenseman needs a combination of so many things, ranging from near-perfect positionning and excellent man-to-man abilities to good passing skills/vision (especially important for the breakout pass) and an above-average, accurate shot and, of course, good skating and acceleration.

Size and strength are always a plus too.

I don't think soft hands are a prerequisite for a great d-man at all, though it is always welcome indeed.

I don't think size really matters, but it is always something anyone wouldnt mind having, because of the type of game it has now become.

IMO, teams value defensemen's offensive skillset then they would to their defensive skills. Also, by softhands i meant was that they have the ability to move the puck around with the players around them and keeping the puck in the other teams' zone. If a defensemen can do that, he could get extra mintues.

[Vikes99ej]

Hey guys, don't mean to spam, but I'm thinking about starting a Fantasy Hockey league on Yahoo. Let me know if interested.


http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35239

[the decider13]

Since many of you are more plugged in to the hockey world than I am, what are the chances of Duchene making the trip to America this year? Is there like a deadline that the Avs need to make a decision about whether or not he stays at Brampton?

Meh, if he doesn't make it this year, at least I can look forward to Duchene with Taylor Hall.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

For those who haven't heard yet, the auction for the Phoenix Coyotes franchise is down to two bidders: Jim Balsille and the NHL. Balsille's bid stands at almost 250M which includes money to pay out the lease on the Coyotes arena. The NHL's bid is almost 100M less at 150M.

[Job]

Let's see what strings the NHL will pull to still keep Balsillie away from a team.

[Tha Wootster]

anddddddd hudler is allowed to play in the KHL.

[Xiomera]

anddddddd hudler is allowed to play in the KHL.

Good riddance, Jiri!

[Hines]

Pens open training camp in 2 or 3 days. First preseason game is Tuesday.

[EdReedUnstoppable]

Caps rookie camp has gone well, Varlamov and Carlson are studs!!!!

[Jensen]

Nick Petrecki.

whvy_nSCd0w

[Borat]

Petrecki!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Such a badass.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

Apparently a three way trade that would see Heatley go to the Sharks, Marleau go to LA and Ottawa get Stoll and Frolov is going down.

[slightlyaraiderfan]

Apparently a three way trade that would see Heatley go to the Sharks, Marleau go to LA and Ottawa get Stoll and Frolov is going down.
i saw that yesterday, and i don't see how us giving up fro and stoll gets us Marleau

[Stash]

Yeah, doesn't sound like Ottowa would be receiving enough for Heater.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

fml Heatley to SJ for Michalek, Cheechoo and a 2nd.

[SuperMcgee]

Awesome. Way better.

[Eaglez.Fan]

What the ****.

[Vikes99ej]

fml Heatley to SJ for Michalek, Cheechoo and a 2nd.

according to.....?

[Todd Bertuzzi]

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=290808

[fischbowl]

**** it.

Great trade from a Sabres fan stand. I'm interested to see how Cheechoo plays now that he's not in San Jose

[Eaglez.Fan]

according to.....?

FML (http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=290808)

..............

[Tha Wootster]

Cheechoo hahahahaha!

[Job]

Ouch. Thornton could already make Cheechoo of all people get 50 goals. Could be nasty with Heatley.

[Stash]

Awesome, ******* awesome. I was worried when I heard all the Marleau reports the past few days because he's my favorite Shark, but he has a NTC. Cheechoo was worthless the past few years while making $3M per and Michalek was overpaid as well (making $4.3M) despite being young and talented with potential. Our PP is going to be a nightmare for the rest of the league.

Heatley - Thornton - Marleau
Boyle - Blake

[Vikes99ej]

**** YEAH I'm sure I can get a Heatley Sens third jersey for cheap now!

[Sniper]

Sens...man, what were they thinking?

[Todd Bertuzzi]

**** YEAH I'm sure I can get a Heatley Sens third jersey for cheap now!

Don't waste your money. Heatley's a douche and the Sens third jerseys suck.

[Borat]

**** yeah. Great job by the Sharks. Michalek is fast as hell and pretty solid all around, but he just doesn't finish consistently enough. Heatley is a pure scorer which has been sorely lacking as of late. Cheechoo is just too slow for the new NHL. Loved both those guys so I hope they do well in Ottawa.

[Vikes99ej]

Don't waste your money. Heatley's a douche and the Sens third jerseys suck.

:(((((((((( You don't like them? I guess I'm just a sucker for those kind of jerseys.

[Sniper]

Sharks will be so nasty in NHL '10.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

Maybe if it said Senators, but the fact that it just says Sens makes me hate them.

http://sportsecyclopedia.com/nhl/ott/sensoriginalO.gif
http://www.modsuperstar.ca/images/side-profile-sens-logo.jpg

I would've much rather one of those logos.

[the decider13]

Sharks will be so nasty in NHL '10.

My exact thoughts after seeing the Heatly trade. They are gonna beast it.

[slightlyaraiderfan]

do not like

[Jensen]

Yes you do sarf.

Awesome trade for the Sharks. I've never really liked Michalek all that much. He's a good 2nd line player, there's just something about him that stuck out to me that I didn't like. Cheechoo blows and the 2nd rounder will likely be very low.

[SuperMcgee]

Hooray for Stafford signing.

Any other decent RFA still unsigned besides Dubinsky and Kessel?

And somebody really ought to sign Dennis Seidenberg.

[619]

Alright, an update for the Leafs' fans in this thread.

RW named our top four defensemen on what appears to be an overstocked blue line for this season. Our first pairing is anticipated to be Kaberle and Komisarek, while the other Beauchemin and Schenn.

This leaves Van Ryn, White, Exelby, Finger, and Frogren battling for three jobs on the roster. Definitely something to keep an eye on as camp continues.

[PACKmanN]

We better not spend all of our cap on the first line, the Sens already did that.

[Geo]

Alright, an update for the Leafs' fans in this thread.

RW named our top four defensemen on what appears to be an overstocked blue line for this season. Our first pairing is anticipated to be Kaberle and Komisarek, while the other Beauchemin and Schenn.

This leaves Van Ryn, White, Exelby, Finger, and Frogren battling for three jobs on the roster. Definitely something to keep an eye on as camp continues.
I love that Top 4. Also I am penciling in Exelby too, I think there's a very good chance he makes it as he is one of Burke's guys and brings the kind of physicality Burke wants.

Truculence

[Todd Bertuzzi]

Yeah I really like Exelby. If it were up to me that 3rd pairing would be Exelby and White.

[fischbowl]

Yeah I really like Exelby. If it were up to me that 3rd pairing would be Exelby and White.

No, Van Ryn???

[jimmylishis]

Petr Sykora is trying out for the Wild

http://www.startribune.com/sports/wild/59288817.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiUncacyi8cyaiUiD3aPc:_ Yyc:aUU

[Todd Bertuzzi]

Yeah I'm surprised some guys like Sykora, Seidenberg and Dominic Moore haven't been signed.

[Job]

Seidenberg signed with Florida.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

Sorry forgot about that one.

[Sniper]

Yeah I'm surprised some guys like Sykora, Seidenberg and Dominic Moore haven't been signed.

Seidenberg signed with the Panthers yesterday.

[Job]

Seidenberg signed with the Panthers yesterday.

You're soooo late.

[fischbowl]

Dominic Moore sucked ass with the Sabres after he was traded. What a let down, really

[SuperMcgee]

He still ought to be signed. Still a good 3rd line player, I believe. He might be disappointed with the drop in ice time, but a lot of teams could use someone like him in their bottom 6.

[Hines]

Crosby has three points tonight. Scoring championship? I think so.

(Yes I know it's only preseason. I am kidding, chill.)

Eric Tangradi, from what I have read, looked good. I expect him to be a player for us late this year or next season.

Kunitz also scored two goals. I think a full season with Sid would do him good.

[Smooth Criminal]

Hockey season is back! Can't wait until real games start again.

[slightlyaraiderfan]

was at the first preseason game tonight. it was a split squad game with phoenix, so i was able to see alot of our kids, like hickey, bernier, loktionov (so so good), teubert, schenn, clifford. :)

i was also able to see our first line in action. kopi, smyth and justin williams, they got chops.

[HChu]

http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35412

gogogo.

[SuperMcgee]

I wish I was watching Kulikov right now.

I wish even harder that I was watching him on Thursday.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

I'm watching Kulikov right now. He just sniped on Brodeur. It was amazing.

[slightlyaraiderfan]

for those of you in vikes fantasy league, draft is in less then 30 mins

[iBoldin]

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/223979/b48e3223abbe8b491e83cadc7b7fe504.jpg

Shirokov > you.

[Hines]

Anyone play the new NHL games yet?

[Vikes99ej]

Anyone play the new NHL games yet?

I did. It's a lot slower, and more difficult when you're facing the computer. Looks nice though. And the first person fighting is fun.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

I really like NHL 10. A lot more realistic and they eliminated the glitch goals so it's harder to score. Download the demo if you want to check it out.