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yeats
04-17-2009, 12:37 PM
his last name is peters laugh out loud

link da link: http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/17/report-bills-trade-peters-to-eagles/

bored of education
04-17-2009, 12:38 PM
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I wonder which 1st this will cost.

Brodeur
04-17-2009, 12:42 PM
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I wonder which 1st this will cost.

It says their 2nd first rounder (#28) in the article douche.

Menardo75
04-17-2009, 12:42 PM
Wow nice move for the Eagles if this is true.

Smokey Joe
04-17-2009, 12:43 PM
who is the eagles RT?

TACKLE
04-17-2009, 12:43 PM
Interesting. I guess this means they better pray that Oher falls to them at #11.

Malaka
04-17-2009, 12:43 PM
I think this is great for both teams.

11. Aaron Maybin ???

28. Alex Mack

I am guessing that right about now.

msolimani
04-17-2009, 12:45 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9466866/Sources:-Eagles-trade-for-Bills-Pro-Bowl-LT-Peters

It's the 28th overall pick(Eagles 2nd 1st rounder), a 2nd day pick this year and a late rounder next year. I think this is an absolute steal for the Bills.

Brodeur
04-17-2009, 12:45 PM
who is the eagles RT?

Stacy Andrews or Winston Justice I'd assume.

brat316
04-17-2009, 12:45 PM
its #28 in the article. Well I guess no more Boldin for the Eagles.

Bills2083
04-17-2009, 12:46 PM
Hopefully Oher is there at 11.

PoopSandwich
04-17-2009, 12:46 PM
its #28 in the article. Well I guess no more Boldin for the Eagles.

Eagles could still trade their earlier pick for Boldin or Edwards if they want.

coordinator0
04-17-2009, 12:46 PM
Wow, I think this makes a RB at 21 much more likely for the Eagles instead of Pettigrew... (if he's there). Keeping the dream alive, Pettigrew to BAL at 26!

msolimani
04-17-2009, 12:46 PM
its #28 in the article. Well I guess no more Boldin for the Eagles.

They still have plenty of picks to get Boldin if that wanted. Just doesnt seem like their style though since they love stocking up on picks.

brat316
04-17-2009, 12:47 PM
Eagles could still trade their earlier pick for Boldin or Edwards if they want.

True, but I think the Cards are looking to cash in. Usually a first and 3rd should get it done.

Smokey Joe
04-17-2009, 12:50 PM
Stacy Andrews or Winston Justice I'd assume.
Oh yeah, I forgot they signed Stacy. With the money they are paying Stacy, he for sure will be the starter. They got the Andrews brothers anchoring the right side with Peters (if rightfully motivated) protecting the blindside. Not a bad OLine.

Splat
04-17-2009, 12:51 PM
Great move for the Eagles.

Smokey Joe
04-17-2009, 12:52 PM
Wow, I think this makes a RB at 21 much more likely for the Eagles instead of Pettigrew... (if he's there). Keeping the dream alive, Pettigrew to BAL at 26!
Don't be too surprised if Pettigrew falls to 26. I remember in 07, no one thought Olsen had a shot in hell in falling to 31, but he did. Now, Pettigrew is a much more complete player than Olsen, but either way TE's have a tendency to drop, especially when there is a lot of value in the 2nd and 3rd rounds this year.

Smokey Joe
04-17-2009, 12:54 PM
Eagles could still trade their earlier pick for Boldin or Edwards if they want.
You know how much money that would cost them? Peters wants a new humongous contract, and Boldin wants a huge contract as well, and Edwards will be a FA who will command a lot. No way the Eagles could afford that.

Bills2083
04-17-2009, 12:55 PM
You know how much money that would cost them? Peters wants a new humongous contract, and Boldin wants a huge contract as well, and Edwards will be a FA who will command a lot. No way the Eagles could afford that.


Peters wants a contract of $12 million+/season.
Edwards/Boldin will also command huge contracts.

They won't be making a move for either of those receivers IMO.

Splat
04-17-2009, 12:58 PM
The Eagles OL is freaking huge all five starters well over 300 pounds.

brat316
04-17-2009, 01:00 PM
The Eagles OL is freaking huge all five starters well over 300 pounds.

Eagles love upgrading and having a big OL, but when it comes to WR, they feel they can get away with what they have.

coordinator0
04-17-2009, 01:00 PM
The Eagles OL is freaking huge all five starters well over 300 pounds.

And they are all above average blockers... Now if they only used that size to run-block some more :) (mandatory A.R. jab).

bored of education
04-17-2009, 01:00 PM
The Eagles OL is freaking huge all five starters well over 300 pounds.

I think the Bills and Eagles had the biggest o lines last year.

BUSTKUNTLAWL
04-17-2009, 01:01 PM
The Eagles OL is freaking huge all five starters well over 300 pounds.

Yeah, that is the kind of OL I prefer.

I think Peters is a very good player depsite the numbers last year. He had a rough start due to missing a ton of camp and getting back in shape.

That is a good looking OL in Philly.

BUSTKUNTLAWL
04-17-2009, 01:01 PM
I think the Bills and Eagles had the biggest o lines last year.

Cowboys? (I could be wrong)

Splat
04-17-2009, 01:03 PM
LT Peters at 6'4" 340lbs.

LG: Max Jean-Gilles at 6'3" 358 lbs.

C: Jamaal Jackson at 6'4" 340 lbs.

RG: Shawn Andrews at 6'4" 335 lbs.

RT: Stacey Andrews at 6'7" 342 lbs.

coordinator0
04-17-2009, 01:04 PM
LT Peters at 6'4" 340lbs.

LG: Max Jean-Gilles at 6'3" 358 lbs.

C: Jamaal Jackson at 6'4" 340 lbs.

RG: Shawn Andrews at 6'4" 335 lbs.

RT: Stacey Andrews at 6'7" 342 lbs.

Herremans will probably be the LG, but he's still a big fella (Go SVSU!).

D-Unit
04-17-2009, 01:05 PM
This is a very good move for both teams. I think both sides won. Peters is a top LT and the Bills got a great return for a player who wasn't going to be a Bill.

Gonna be fun watching Ware vs Peters. Tra Thomas did a good job against Ware. I hope Peters is worse. If he doesn't trim down, Ware will eat him up with his speed.

BUSTKUNTLAWL
04-17-2009, 01:05 PM
LT Peters at 6'4" 340lbs.

LG: Max Jean-Gilles at 6'3" 358 lbs.

C: Jamaal Jackson at 6'4" 340 lbs.

RG: Shawn Andrews at 6'4" 335 lbs.

RT: Stacey Andrews at 6'7" 342 lbs.

Is Jean-Gilles any good? I kind of hoped the Bears drafted him the year he came out, but hadn't heard a lot about him since.

scottyboy
04-17-2009, 01:07 PM
this pretty much rules out any chance of Britt going to the Eagles, which makes me insanely happy!

not a bad deal for the eagles, but an excellent one if he returns to pro bowl form. right now, a good deal for each side with the Bills slightly winning it as is IMO

D-Unit
04-17-2009, 01:07 PM
LT Peters at 6'4" 340lbs.

LG: Max Jean-Gilles at 6'3" 358 lbs.

C: Jamaal Jackson at 6'4" 340 lbs.

RG: Shawn Andrews at 6'4" 335 lbs.

RT: Stacey Andrews at 6'7" 342 lbs.
They basically have 5 Guards. LOL.

scottyboy
04-17-2009, 01:07 PM
They basically have 5 Guards. LOL.

somewhere Osi and Ware are salivating and ready to run lol

drowe
04-17-2009, 01:07 PM
awesome. this is what i wanted today. a good 1st round shaking trade to make my friday go faster. thanks Bills and Eagles.

D-Unit
04-17-2009, 01:08 PM
this pretty much rules out any chance of Britt going to the Eagles, which makes me insanely happy!

not a bad deal for the eagles, but an excellent one if he returns to pro bowl form. right now, a good deal for each side with the Bills slightly winning it as is IMO
Don't get your hopes up for the Giants drafting Britt, scotty. You guys are getting a worse player... Braylon Edwards. ;)

D-Unit
04-17-2009, 01:09 PM
somewhere Osi and Ware are salivating and ready to run lol
LOL... Redskins fans are sitting quietly somewhere...

scottyboy
04-17-2009, 01:09 PM
Don't get your hopes up for the Giants drafting Britt, scotty. You guys are getting a worse player... Braylon Edwards. ;)

STOP IT!!!!! I know, I've already convinced myself we're most likely not picking him so I'm not deathly upset if we dont yet tremendously ecstatic if we do!

BUSTKUNTLAWL
04-17-2009, 01:10 PM
Who do the Bills target with that pick?

coordinator0
04-17-2009, 01:11 PM
LOL... Redskins fans are sitting quietly somewhere...

LOL! I think they are happy with signing Haynesworth. This only fortifies the idea that the NFC East is the strongest division, bar NONE.

Smokey Joe
04-17-2009, 01:12 PM
LOL... Redskins fans are sitting quietly somewhere...
Fat Albert is gonna have some trouble with all that meat on the line.

Bills2083
04-17-2009, 01:13 PM
Who do the Bills target with that pick?

Well, Pettigrew isn't getting past both Atlanta and Baltimore so you can scratch him off the list.

I'm assuming best DE available.. Alex Mack maybe?

Last season...
Peters - Dockery - Fowler - Butler - Walker

This upcoming season
_____ - _____ - Hangartner - Butler Walker

we will have an all new left side of the line, and all new center... Great.

D-Unit
04-17-2009, 01:16 PM
LOL! I think they are happy with signing Haynesworth. This only fortifies the idea that the NFC East is the strongest division, bar NONE.
Yeah, that's a good idea... Put him at DE.

Seriously though.... I don't care that they've added Al. He's not going to make Phillip Daniels or Andre Carter into Pro Bowl caliber DEs.

D-Unit
04-17-2009, 01:18 PM
Well, Pettigrew isn't getting past both Atlanta and Baltimore so you can scratch him off the list.

I'm assuming best DE available.. Alex Mack maybe?

Last season...
Peters - Dockery - Fowler - Butler - Walker

This upcoming season
_____ - _____ - Hangartner - Butler Walker

we will have an all new left side of the line, and all new center... Great.
Nah, you'll probably grab Josh Freeman. heh heh.

GB12
04-17-2009, 01:19 PM
LT Peters at 6'4" 340lbs.

LG: Max Jean-Gilles at 6'3" 358 lbs.

C: Jamaal Jackson at 6'4" 340 lbs.

RG: Shawn Andrews at 6'4" 335 lbs.

RT: Stacey Andrews at 6'7" 342 lbs.
That line really doesn't match Andy Ried's play calling.

Bills2083
04-17-2009, 01:21 PM
Nah, you'll probably grab Josh Freeman. heh heh.


Probably.
Edwards will probably be out for the season a few games in.
We're going to need a serviceable backup!

Kase1
04-17-2009, 01:22 PM
I think the Bills and Eagles had the biggest o lines last year.

LOL bigger doesnt always mean better, just look at the Giants line....

I hope this will free up Beatty at 29 or even the 1st Giants pick in the 2nd

nobodyinparticular
04-17-2009, 01:24 PM
That line really doesn't match Andy Ried's play calling.

But they match his girth!

Bucs_Rule
04-17-2009, 01:24 PM
LT Peters at 6'4" 340lbs.

LG: Max Jean-Gilles at 6'3" 358 lbs.

C: Jamaal Jackson at 6'4" 340 lbs.

RG: Shawn Andrews at 6'4" 335 lbs.

RT: Stacey Andrews at 6'7" 342 lbs.

Yet they are unable to move the ball in short-yardage.

MasterShake
04-17-2009, 01:26 PM
Well, Pettigrew isn't getting past both Atlanta and Baltimore so you can scratch him off the list.

I'm assuming best DE available.. Alex Mack maybe?

Last season...
Peters - Dockery - Fowler - Butler - Walker

This upcoming season
_____ - _____ - Hangartner - Butler Walker

we will have an all new left side of the line, and all new center... Great.

Wow...the Bills O-line went from mediocre to ugly in a hurry...

Lynch's Fantasy value is spiraling out of control....

Rob S
04-17-2009, 01:27 PM
This is a very good move for both teams. I think both sides won. Peters is a top LT and the Bills got a great return for a player who wasn't going to be a Bill.

Gonna be fun watching Ware vs Peters. Tra Thomas did a good job against Ware. I hope Peters is worse. If he doesn't trim down, Ware will eat him up with his speed.


You are way underrating a motivated Peters' agility imo. It is better than Tra Thomas'.

Rob S
04-17-2009, 01:29 PM
I am betting the left side of uour OL looks:

Oher-Hangartner-Mack

I could see Unger getting swapped for Mack in which case Hangartner goes to C again.

LonghornsLegend
04-17-2009, 01:31 PM
I stand corrected with what I said about Philly, this is a very good move...They better hurry and get a contract worked out, because a large reason Peters play was so poor is because he didn't come around until the regular season started.


If your shelling out 11 mil he better be in shape by September, but I like this move...Peters is much better then what they would of got with 28.

tjsunstein
04-17-2009, 01:31 PM
You are way underrating a motivated Peters' agility imo. It is better than Tra Thomas'.

There's a big difference when you add that word.

eaglesalltheway
04-17-2009, 01:34 PM
Stacy Andrews or Winston Justice I'd assume.

It's most likely going to be Stacey Andrews

Rob S
04-17-2009, 01:38 PM
There's a big difference when you add that word.


obviously......and thats why I included it......

eaglesalltheway
04-17-2009, 01:39 PM
Is Jean-Gilles any good? I kind of hoped the Bears drafted him the year he came out, but hadn't heard a lot about him since.

He looked great filling in for Shawn Andrews until he busted his ankle, and honestly, I think he should battle for the starting LG spot, and may win it if he is totally recovered.

Addict
04-17-2009, 01:41 PM
He looked great filling in for Shawn Andrews until he busted his ankle, and honestly, I think he should battle for the starting LG spot, and may win it if he is totally recovered.

he was great coming out, I remember wanting the lions to draft him BADLY.

Basileus777
04-17-2009, 01:43 PM
Philly overpaid. Peters struggled last year. He also has a bad attitude and wants a large contract.

eaglesalltheway
04-17-2009, 01:44 PM
he was great coming out, I remember wanting the lions to draft him BADLY.

He is honestly one of my favorite players. He has great quickness considering his size, is strong as hell, mean as hell, and is damn good in space. If it wasn't for Shawn Andrews he'd have been starting at RG since his second year, if not earlier.

Go_Eagles77
04-17-2009, 01:46 PM
I am very disappointed by this personally, unless he can play more like he did in 2007 again.

eaglesalltheway
04-17-2009, 01:48 PM
So I'm pretty pumped. We gave up our second first rounder, which sucks, but as someone said, we aren't going to get anyone better with the pick, so I'm happy about it. And we only give up a second day pick this year (a 4th I think) and a second day pick next year (probably a 5th or 4th). Once we get him his contract, this will be a monster OL. I'm very excited about this, and it is just another piece of evidence that might, key word, show that our offense is now willing to devote a little more time to the run. With our increased size in line, addition of a real FB, who also is a short yardage option to run, and a few other moves, this gives us Eagles fans hope that we will actually have a semi-balanced attack next year. Now all we need is that second RB...

eaglesalltheway
04-17-2009, 01:49 PM
I personally think this trade is pretty fair. We gave up a first, but get back a solid to elite LT. The cost seems about even to me.

SuperMcGee
04-17-2009, 01:50 PM
I think this is great for both teams.

11. Aaron Maybin ???

28. Alex Mack

I am guessing that right about now.

We're going to need a tackle in the worst way.
Our reserve tackles are also our starting guards. Walker and Butler (the returning pieces) might have to do some shifting.

Basileus777
04-17-2009, 01:53 PM
We're going to need a tackle in the worst way.
Our reserve tackles are also our starting guards. Walker and Butler (the returning pieces) might have to do some shifting.

Trade your two first rounders for #3 and draft Monroe.

Splat
04-17-2009, 01:56 PM
They could stay put and take Oher.

eaglesalltheway
04-17-2009, 01:56 PM
Trade your two first rounders for #3 and draft Monroe.

However, the Bills have major needs at LT, C, DE, TE, and probably something else I'm missing. They've put themselves in a good position to take care of those needs.

SimonRath
04-17-2009, 02:05 PM
i hate how people say Peters is a bad player just cuz he had a bad year last year.
so if Matt Ryan has an off year this year then hes bad?

bored of education
04-17-2009, 02:08 PM
i hate how people say Peters is a bad player just cuz he had a bad year last year.
so if Matt Ryan has an off year this year then hes bad?

actually yes :D

SimonRath
04-17-2009, 02:11 PM
actually yes :D

lameeeeeeeeeeeee

bored of education
04-17-2009, 02:12 PM
lameeeeeeeeeeeee

i kid Matty ice for life!

keylime_5
04-17-2009, 02:13 PM
Oher won't be there at 11, SF wants him. I think 4 OTs going in the top 10 means the Bills' OLine will be SOL.

And what's more is that having the 28th pick instead of the 21st means that they won't be able to get Pettigrew unless they spend the 11th pick on him or make a trade.

eaglesalltheway
04-17-2009, 02:20 PM
The longer I think about this trade, the more I like it...

Go_Eagles77
04-17-2009, 02:20 PM
Now we just need to draft Knowshon Moreno so we can focus on running the ball, because with Peters and Stacy Andrews at tackle, they'll be built to run the ball, they aren't the best pass protectors in the league.


Who am I kidding, Reid would still pass the ball 75% of the time.

eaglesalltheway
04-17-2009, 02:21 PM
Now we just need to draft Knowshon Moreno so we can focus on running the ball, because with Peters and Stacy Andrews at tackle, they'll be built to run the ball, they aren't the best pass protectors in the league.


Who am I kidding, Reid would still pass the ball 75% of the time.

Well maybe now we can approach a 60-40 pass-run ratio. I really think with the addition of Weaver this will allow us to run more. There is evidence the team has been trying to devote more time to running over the last few years, they just haven't had the best of luck with the guys they've chosen to help get that going.

Go_Eagles77
04-17-2009, 02:23 PM
Well maybe now we can approach a 60-40 pass-run ratio. I really think with the addition of Weaver this will allow us to run more. There is evidence the team has been trying to devote more time to running over the last few years, they just haven't had the best of luck with the guys they've chosen to help get that going.

Peters is a huuuge upgrade over Thomas in the run game, but he may be just as much of a downgrade in the pass game.

Splat
04-17-2009, 02:25 PM
Oher won't be there at 11, SF wants him. I think 4 OTs going in the top 10 means the Bills' OLine will be SOL.


If they want him that bad I'm sure they could work out a deal with the Jags at #8 the don't need to panic and move up to the top five IMO.

eaglesalltheway
04-17-2009, 02:26 PM
Peters is a huuuge upgrade over Thomas in the run game, but he may be just as much of a downgrade in the pass game.

Not so, Peters in 07 was a monster, and if he can stay motivated, which he should here, especially with Juan Castillo. Expect a big year from him.

brat316
04-17-2009, 02:26 PM
Petti is not making it past the Falcons.

LonghornsLegend
04-17-2009, 02:35 PM
Not so, Peters in 07 was a monster, and if he can stay motivated, which he should here, especially with Juan Castillo. Expect a big year from him.

It could be motivation, or it could be that he missed the entire off-season program, workouts, and pre-season, and strapped it up for the regular season in off-season form.

BeerBaron
04-17-2009, 02:36 PM
McShay is such a ******* idiot....

Kiper just got done saying about how the Eagles should use their remaining first on Pettigrew to be the blocker to go with the receiver in Celek "who we all know can catch," and then McShay says that they shouldn't take a blocking TE because they need a guy who can catch.....

Ugh.

bored of education
04-17-2009, 02:37 PM
McShay is such a ******* idiot....

Kiper just got done saying about how the Eagles should use their remaining first on Pettigrew to be the blocker to go with the receiver in Celek "who we all know can catch," and then McShay says that they shouldn't take a blocking TE because they need a guy who can catch.....

Ugh.

typical McShay

IndyColtScout
04-17-2009, 02:38 PM
I'm not a huge Peters fan.

I think he should play LG.

Go_Eagles77
04-17-2009, 02:43 PM
McShay is such a ******* idiot....

Kiper just got done saying about how the Eagles should use their remaining first on Pettigrew to be the blocker to go with the receiver in Celek "who we all know can catch," and then McShay says that they shouldn't take a blocking TE because they need a guy who can catch.....

Ugh.
I love Pettigrew, but with only one 1st rounder now, I'd much rather go after a RB.

Rob S
04-17-2009, 02:45 PM
I'm not a huge Peters fan.

I think he should play LG.

why? thats a ridiculously stupid statement. You dont put possibly the most gifted OT in the league at OG.....I would love to hear your evaluation.

btw, peters (so long as he shows last year wasnt just a blip) isnt a downgrade in any form to tra thomas........even if he plays like last year he is better imo.

bored of education
04-17-2009, 02:47 PM
why? thats a ridiculously stupid statement. You dont put possibly the most gifted OT in the league at OG.....I would love to hear your evaluation.

btw, peters (so long as he shows last year wasnt just a blip) isnt a downgrade in any form to tra thomas........even if he plays like last year he is better imo.

I agree. Peters upside is that he could be the best LT in the game

Rob S
04-17-2009, 02:51 PM
Also.....dont assume the Bills are going OT early. The staff loves Demetrius Bell (who is insanely athletic and reminds me a lot of peters). He may be ready to step in at RT and Walker looked pretty solid at LT last year. I feel Langston Walker is pretty underrated.....I will admit I hated the huge contract we gave him, but he has been pretty sweet.

bored of education
04-17-2009, 02:52 PM
Also.....dont assume the Bills are going OT early. The staff loves Demetrius Bell (who is insanely athletic and reminds me a lot of peters). He may be ready to step in at RT and Walker looked pretty solid at LT last year. I feel Langston Walker is pretty underrated.....I will admit I hated the huge contract we gave him, but he has been pretty sweet.

When they drafted him I thought the same thing. Many smiliarities to Peters jsut a bit more raw. He is a project still at least one more year way but I liked him alot when they drafted him.

IndyColtScout
04-17-2009, 02:52 PM
why? thats a ridiculously stupid statement. You dont put possibly the most gifted OT in the league at OG.....I would love to hear your evaluation.

btw, peters (so long as he shows last year wasnt just a blip) isnt a downgrade in any form to tra thomas........even if he plays like last year he is better imo.

Most gifted OT in the league?

WHAT?

Not a chance.

I don't like Peters history with being lazy, unmotivated, and taking a whole year off (and holding out) because he couldn't get paid off of production for ONE season.

IndyColtScout
04-17-2009, 02:54 PM
I agree. Peters upside is that he could be the best LT in the game

Peters upside is pro-bowl possibly all-pro. He is not a #1 LT in the game candidate.

Go_Eagles77
04-17-2009, 02:56 PM
Peters upside is pro-bowl possibly all-pro. He is not a #1 LT in the game candidate.
Do you realize how stupid that sounds? All-Pro = #1 LT in the game.

Rob S
04-17-2009, 02:56 PM
Peters upside is pro-bowl possibly all-pro. He is not a #1 LT in the game candidate.

he was damn close 2 years ago.......and if you were getting one fourth of what you deserved in salary, I think you may have held out too.

Rob S
04-17-2009, 02:56 PM
Do you realize how stupid that sounds? All-Pro = #1 LT in the game.

I think he has proven his vast knowledge........

IndyColtScout
04-17-2009, 02:58 PM
he was damn close 2 years ago.......and if you were getting one fourth of what you deserved in salary, I think you may have held out too.

I might have held out, but I wouldn't take plays off when it mattered.

I wouldn't let my QB get sacked 12 times when it was like 1 1/2 times the year before.

Not showing a whole lot of leadership and team mentality.

I think I would also take Clady, Thomas, McNeil, J. Long, and Gaither probably before Peters.

IndyColtScout
04-17-2009, 03:01 PM
he was damn close 2 years ago.......and if you were getting one fourth of what you deserved in salary, I think you may have held out too.

I left the door open by saying possibly, which means in the future.

You guys are annoiting him #1 LT in the present which he is not.

Rob S
04-17-2009, 03:02 PM
I might have held out, but I wouldn't take plays off when it mattered.

I wouldn't let my QB get sacked 12 times when it was like 1 1/2 times the year before.

Not showing a whole lot of leadership and team mentality.

I think I would also take Clady, Thomas, McNeil, J. Long, and Gaither probably before Peters.

Hold out leads to missing all offseason workouts.....chemistry is key for an OL....all that stuff adds up.....expecting him to be as good is crazy. Maybe he looked like he took plays off because he wasnt in football shape and was sucking wind.......he was playing pretty well towards the end of the year when he had practices under his belt.

Rob S
04-17-2009, 03:03 PM
I left the door open by saying possibly, which means in the future.

You guys are annoiting him #1 LT in the present which he is not.


who said that?

and you also didnt leave the door open, you said he is not a #1 LT in the game candidate.

But this also brings me to your original argument, why the hell would u move a potential all pro to OG? Thats just dumb.

Go_Eagles77
04-17-2009, 03:04 PM
I left the door open by saying possibly, which means in the future.

You guys are annoiting him #1 LT in the present which he is not.
I'm not saying he is, I was just saying what you said sounded dumb because the all-pro at any position is usually the best player in the league at said position (that year). I think if he plays like he did in 07, he's a top 3 LT, if he plays like he did in 08, he might not even be top 10.

bearsfan_51
04-17-2009, 03:06 PM
I agree with the previous comment that Oher won't last till 11. The Packers pick seems like a prime spot for someone to leapfrog San Fran and Buffalo for him. In my mock I had Washington doing so.

D-Unit
04-17-2009, 03:12 PM
All this Jason Peters talk about him being the best LT in the league. . . .

Please don't give this forum THAT kind of reputation. Heck,
I'd even take a 3rd year guy like Joe Thomas over Peters any day of the week.

bored of education
04-17-2009, 03:13 PM
All this Jason Peters talk about him being the best LT in the league. . . .

Please don't give this forum THAT kind of reputation. Heck,
I'd even take a 3rd year guy like Joe Thomas over Peters any day of the week.

no one said that. i said he has the potential to be..but so don't 5-8 OTs

D-Unit
04-17-2009, 03:18 PM
no one said that. i said he has the potential to be..but so don't 5-8 OTs
So what? You're still wrong. He doesn't have the potential to be the best in the league.

When players get traded, they steal the headlines and people go bezerk with overstating ridiculous comments. Don't be a sheep.

bored of education
04-17-2009, 03:20 PM
So what? You're still wrong. He doesn't have the potential to be the best in the league.

When players get traded, they steal the headlines and people go bezerk with overstating ridiculous comments. Don't be a sheep.

Actually I think he does have that potential if he regains his 2007 form and becomes more consistent and this and that then YES he has the potential to be it, so does Branden Albert, Joe thomas, Ryan Clady, jamall Brown, Jamaal barrows.

stop being a sheep ******

art vandelay
04-17-2009, 03:20 PM
I like the trade. There's no way we should have given Peters $11+ a year so I applaud the deal.

On the other hand, this is what we are left with for the time being:

Chambers - McKinney - Hangartner - Butler - Walker

Yeah, that's the ultimate who the **** is that? o-line

coordinator0
04-17-2009, 03:21 PM
Actually I think he does have that potential if he regains his 2007 form and becomes more conistant ye and this and this then YES he has the potential to be it, so does Branden Albert, Joe thomas, Ryan Clady, jamall Brown, Jamaal barrows, Jared Gaither.

stop being a sheep ******

Added one for ya ;).

Splat
04-17-2009, 03:22 PM
Peters Passes Physical (http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/17/peters-passes-physical/)

No turning back now.

Rob S
04-17-2009, 03:24 PM
So what? You're still wrong. He doesn't have the potential to be the best in the league.

When players get traded, they steal the headlines and people go bezerk with overstating ridiculous comments. Don't be a sheep.


and I happen to think your wrong......the fact that I am saying it about the guy that just screwed over the Bills should speak to his talent level. He was a top 3 LT the season before last and that was only his 2nd year starting there.....

art vandelay
04-17-2009, 03:25 PM
I would bet very highly that Peters will return to form next season. His training camp was essentially the first 3-4 weeks of the season. He let up alot of sacks early, and regained his dominance by season end. There was a reason that he was selected to the Pro Bowl by the players. He's an elite LT.

D-Unit
04-17-2009, 03:28 PM
Actually I think he does have that potential if he regains his 2007 form and becomes more consistent and this and that then YES he has the potential to be it, so does Branden Albert, Joe thomas, Ryan Clady, jamall Brown, Jamaal barrows.

stop being a sheep ******
Lemme guess... you're gonna add at least 3-5 more "potentially best NFL LT" candidates to that list once the draft is over...

I mean potentially speaking, there are about 20 of them in college football today who didn't even enter the draft, right? ...and about 20 more on NFL practice squads and 40 more on starting rosters... Potentially speaking that is... :P

art vandelay
04-17-2009, 03:35 PM
This is still a very big investment by the Eagles. Giving up a 1st, 4th and a late 2010 pick as well as pouring in $11+ a mil a year to Peters is huge.

bored of education
04-17-2009, 03:38 PM
Lemme guess... you're gonna add at least 3-5 more "potentially best NFL LT" candidates to that list once the draft is over...

I mean potentially speaking, there are about 20 of them in college football today who didn't even enter the draft, right? ...and about 20 more on NFL practice squads and 40 more on starting rosters... Potentially speaking that is... :P

Was he or was he not a top 3 LT the year before last after only playing 2 years at the position? That why I feel his ceiling is much higher than the likes of a Joe Thomas who is closer to reaching his ceiling. But yes that potential number of number one overall lt's will grew exponentially per week.

Paranoidmoonduck
04-17-2009, 03:40 PM
If the Bills want any sort of an offense in 2008, they're probably going to have to spend both 1st round picks on offensive linemen.

Oher and Mack would make a lot of sense.

Mr.Regular
04-17-2009, 03:41 PM
Oher won't be there at 11, SF wants him. I think 4 OTs going in the top 10 means the Bills' OLine will be SOL.

And what's more is that having the 28th pick instead of the 21st means that they won't be able to get Pettigrew unless they spend the 11th pick on him or make a trade.
I agree... Oher could go anyway between 6 and 10... and all of the teams picking in that region would take a look at him.

art vandelay
04-17-2009, 03:46 PM
If the Bills want any sort of an offense in 2008, they're probably going to have to spend both 1st round picks on offensive linemen.

Oher and Mack would make a lot of sense.

This all depends on if the Bills consider Kirk Chambers or Demetrius Bell starter-worthy at LT or LG. It's sad but they might...

D-Unit
04-17-2009, 03:47 PM
If the Bills want any sort of an offense in 2008, they're probably going to have to spend both 1st round picks on offensive linemen.

Oher and Mack would make a lot of sense.
How do Bills fans really feel about their QB situation? Do they believe that they have a QB that can get them a ring?

What about trading one of those picks for a QB? Brady Quinn? Or someone else? What about packaging the 2 picks to move up for Stafford or Sanchez?

I don't disagree though. If they keep those 2 picks, OL would be most wise.

bored of education
04-17-2009, 03:48 PM
How do Bills fans really feel about their QB situation? Do they believe that they have a QB that can get them a ring?

What about trading one of those picks for a QB? Brady Quinn? Or someone else? What about packaging the 2 picks to move up for Stafford or Sanchez?

I don't disagree though. If they keep those 2 picks, OL would be most wise.

I like Trent Edwards but he is in the Jason Campbell tier of QB's, he won't be the type of Qb that will lead you the the promised land. They could make the jump...potentially speaking. :p

GB12
04-17-2009, 03:49 PM
I don't think Quinn is an upgrade over Edwards.

art vandelay
04-17-2009, 03:54 PM
Edwards seems like the type of QB that can win a Super Bowl. He has looked fantastic at times but is obviously still progressing and has taken his lumps. What stands out with Edwards is his maturity and poise. I think he can become a top-tier QB (top 10) next season. I'm not sure he will ever be a guy who will take over a game but he I think he will become an above-average guy who can do more for you than just manage a game.

And D-Unit: you are crazy if you think the Bills would even consider trading for Brady Quinn or making a move for a QB. Dick Jauron and Ralph Wilson absolutely rave about Trent.

Paranoidmoonduck
04-17-2009, 03:54 PM
How do Bills fans really feel about their QB situation? Do they believe that they have a QB that can get them a ring?

What about trading one of those picks for a QB? Brady Quinn? Or someone else? What about packaging the 2 picks to move up for Stafford or Sanchez?

I don't disagree though. If they keep those 2 picks, OL would be most wise.

I know one always feels you need to get a quarterback in house first, but I'm not sure many other parts of that team are worthy of getting them towards a ring either.

Edwards was worryingly inconsistent last year, but he wasn't flat out bad. I still think he can be a decent NFL starter, but the truth is that, without blockers, there's going to be no way to find out. Additionally, anyone else that the Bills bring in will face that same situation.

Buffalo won't have a passing game without pass blockers, whether it's led by Edwards or not. This is actually a pretty good offensive line draft, so I'd hold onto those picks and use them.

art vandelay
04-17-2009, 03:59 PM
I know one always feels you need to get a quarterback in house first, but I'm not sure many other parts of that team are worthy of getting them towards a ring either.

Edwards was worryingly inconsistent last year, but he wasn't flat out bad. I still think he can be a decent NFL starter, but the truth is that, without blockers, there's going to be no way to find out. Additionally, anyone else that the Bills bring in will face that same situation.

Buffalo won't have a passing game without pass blockers, whether it's led by Edwards or not. This is actually a pretty good offensive line draft, so I'd hold onto those picks and use them.

Edwards has had some quarrels with offensive coordinator Turk Schonert. When we came off a short week and played the Chiefs, the gameplan was very simplified and Edwards constantly mentioned in interviews that he loved how simple it was. Obviously the Chiefs weren't very good but Edwards had one of his best games of the year.

The consistency really didn't worry me last year. He definitely progressed from his first year when he made some really bad throws at times. I think Edwards is primed for a breakout season.

art vandelay
04-17-2009, 04:05 PM
As for the Bills o-line, I'm not too worried about it actually. Kirk Chambers played surprisingly well at LT in his opportunities and the staff is extremely high on Demetrius Bell. These are obviously not household names but if they get the job done I'm not complaining.

Not to say that I think both of these guys will start. I still think we take a first round LT. However, I don't think the majority of people realize how awful the left side of our line was last season. Peters was bad the first few weeks of the year and Dockery was straight awful. We started off 4-0 despite this. Even though I bet the majority of people can not name two starters (maybe not even one?) on our current o-line, I for one am not overly concerned.

Thumper
04-17-2009, 04:07 PM
Is Jean-Gilles any good? I kind of hoped the Bears drafted him the year he came out, but hadn't heard a lot about him since.

Yes. He allowed 1 sack in 10 games started and his strength is run blocking. He would start on most teams in the NFL.

I'm not a fan just because Peters is a HUGE risk. UDFA TE out of Arkansas, played OK at RT, had 1 all pro year at LT and then he tanked. I am just REALLY unsure. But me being my homer self, I will probably be pimping him out in time. I just REALLY wanted the Eagles to have both first round picks.

art vandelay
04-17-2009, 04:11 PM
Yes. He allowed 1 sack in 10 games started and his strength is run blocking. He would start on most teams in the NFL.

I'm not a fan just because Peters is a HUGE risk. UDFA TE out of Arkansas, played OK at RT, had 1 all pro year at LT and then he tanked. I am just REALLY unsure. But me being my homer self, I will probably be pimping him out in time. I just REALLY wanted the Eagles to have both first round picks.

Peters played very well at RT. He had a great 07 and then missed all of training camp in 08. The first few weeks were essentially his training camp. He was dominant by the end of the year. You will be happy with him. Problem in Buffalo was the strained relationship from all the contract negotiations/promises plus I think releasing Dockery didn't go over well with him. Also the Bills are cheap by nature and couldn't justify making him the highest paid LT in the league when he wasn't a team player.

art vandelay
04-17-2009, 04:18 PM
I hope the Bills use the 4th rounder they acquired to go after Brian Waters. Roscoe Parrish and the 4th for Waters sounds good to me.

the decider13
04-17-2009, 04:26 PM
I'm glad peters is gone, now he won't go to the pro bowl over Clady for no apparent reason.

Good deal for both sides, I think a better deal for the Bills, mostly because they didn't want to pay the 11 mil. Better to get a first rounder now than get nothing for him later.

MidwayMonster31
04-17-2009, 04:45 PM
Good move for both parties. Bills were going to trade Peters, and Peters wanted to go, so this trade had to be done, they got very good value for him. They can go after one of those tackles at 11. For the Eagles, they get one of the big linemen that Andy Reid likes. Peters is also relatively young, so if he could regain his form, he will make a good bodyguard for McNabb and Kolb. Now they can address their other needs.

PACKmanN
04-17-2009, 05:04 PM
Eagles love upgrading and having a big OL, but when it comes to WR, they feel they can get away with what they have.

I wouldn't be making those type of remarks since the Steelers love downgrading their talent on the o-line.

D-Unit
04-17-2009, 05:06 PM
Edwards seems like the type of QB that can win a Super Bowl. He has looked fantastic at times but is obviously still progressing and has taken his lumps. What stands out with Edwards is his maturity and poise. I think he can become a top-tier QB (top 10) next season. I'm not sure he will ever be a guy who will take over a game but he I think he will become an above-average guy who can do more for you than just manage a game.

And D-Unit: you are crazy if you think the Bills would even consider trading for Brady Quinn or making a move for a QB. Dick Jauron and Ralph Wilson absolutely rave about Trent.
Well, all I did was suggest it because his name has been in the news about him being on the block. I could've said, maybe they should give up a pick for Big Ben, but he's not on the block. ...and I'm not a believer in Edwards being a SB championship QB at all.

But I guess I asked my question knowing full well there would be some Bills fans quick to come to the defense of their QB. I wanted to see what the majority of Bills fans had to say.

As for the coach talk... believe what you want. But I know the last person I will believe when it comes to giving an honest report of the team players is the coach or gm. There was a time the Bills raved about Losman too.

Splat
04-17-2009, 05:09 PM
I hope the Bills use the 4th rounder they acquired to go after Brian Waters.

No thanks you can keep your 4th.

Bills2083
04-17-2009, 05:20 PM
Solomon Wilcots's thoughts on the matter...

Solomon Wilcots, NFL Network
Well, at No. 11, hope that Michael Oher falls to you. But you might have to move up to get him. Hope that Andre Smith falls to you, too. Then, with the pick at No. 28, hope that you can get your hands on that TE you need in Brandon Pettigrew. He could be available. An offensive linemen to replace Peters, and a tight end to help out Losman is what you're looking for.

The trade was a step backwards in terms of going with a young tackle instead of Peters, but a step forward in terms of the financial scale and being able to afford a contract like his.

http://chat.nfl.com/front/archived_chat/211 (http://chat.nfl.com/front/archived_chat/211)

Does anyone else see what's wrong with this?
When media-heads talk about the Bills they really have no idea what they're talking about.

yesterday, Jamie Dukes said we ran a 3-4

TitanHope
04-17-2009, 05:26 PM
Does anyone else see what's wrong with this?
When media-heads talk about the Bills they really have no idea what they're talking about.

Who is JP Losman, Alex?

Bills2083
04-17-2009, 06:00 PM
Who is JP Losman, Alex?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Oisgzp6ZgOc/RfvEb3CC-OI/AAAAAAAABQg/BtFUEpQ2ERg/s320/Alex+Trebek2.jpg

We have a winner!

scottyboy
04-17-2009, 06:02 PM
LOL bigger doesnt always mean better, just look at the Giants line....

I hope this will free up Beatty at 29 or even the 1st Giants pick in the 2nd

uhhhh no. Beatty is an awful fit for the Giants.

AND the Bills, if the don't get Oher at 11, are just as good of a candidate to snag Beatty at 28...

D-Unit
04-17-2009, 06:07 PM
uhhhh no. Beatty is an awful fit for the Giants.

AND the Bills, if the don't get Oher at 11, are just as good of a candidate to snag Beatty at 28...
Uh... I agree completely. Why would the NYG want him? He's a nimble lineman who would thrive in a ZBS.

TheBuffaloBills
04-17-2009, 06:10 PM
Personally, I don't think the Bills drafts OT in the first. Hear me out:

Switch Walker to LT

Move Demetrius Bell over to RT and become a starter (Coaches rave about him)

Trade down, or draft Pettigrew at 11

Draft Alex Mack/Eric Wood at 28


Those picks would add some real good blockers to our offense.

art vandelay
04-17-2009, 06:17 PM
Well, all I did was suggest it because his name has been in the news about him being on the block. I could've said, maybe they should give up a pick for Big Ben, but he's not on the block. ...and I'm not a believer in Edwards being a SB championship QB at all.

But I guess I asked my question knowing full well there would be some Bills fans quick to come to the defense of their QB. I wanted to see what the majority of Bills fans had to say.

As for the coach talk... believe what you want. But I know the last person I will believe when it comes to giving an honest report of the team players is the coach or gm. There was a time the Bills raved about Losman too.

That's actually not true at all. The Bills never gave Losman the reigns like they have given Edwards. Losman had to earn his starting job with a camp battle between himself, Kelly Holcomb and Craig Nall (yes, 4 MVP). You might not remember, but there was talk that Losman was being shopped when Marv Levy took over at GM. The Bills denied this but I would not be surprised if this was true.

Also, the Bills were obviously not completely sold on Losman because they took Edwards in the 3rd round. When he was benched, Losman acknowledged this same thing, he never felt wanted in Buffalo. When talking about the future of the Bills, Ralph Wilson always mentions that he thinks the Bills now have a franchise QB we can build around. He never said anything close to this when talking about Losman. And Dick Jauron just raves, raves about Edwards. There is no way that the organization doesn't like Trent. They love him, I promise you that.

art vandelay
04-17-2009, 06:20 PM
Personally, I don't think the Bills drafts OT in the first. Hear me out:

Switch Walker to LT

Move Demetrius Bell over to RT and become a starter (Coaches rave about him)

Trade down, or draft Pettigrew at 11

Draft Alex Mack/Eric Wood at 28


Those picks would add some real good blockers to our offense.

I stopped reading right there. Walker is perfectly suited for RT and our best lineman, why mess with a great thing? He was really bad as an LT in Oakland. Also, Bell is perfectly suited for LT, he's just raw right now. Bell is not a good enough run blocker for RT either, he's a great LT project. I think he could start at LG, but RT is not his position, IMO.

TheBuffaloBills
04-17-2009, 06:26 PM
I stopped reading right there. Walker is perfectly suited for RT and our best lineman, why mess with a great thing? He was really bad as an LT in Oakland. Also, Bell is perfectly suited for LT, he's just raw right now. Bell is not a good enough run blocker for RT either, he's a great LT project. I think he could start at LG, but RT is not his position, IMO.

I understand where you're coming from. I know the transition from RT to LT just doesn't happen over night. I would like to give him a try at it though. Didn't Peters play RT at first, then eventually switched to LT. Bell is extremely athletic just like the old Peters. I just think LT would be too overwhelming for Bell this early in his career.

RaiderNation
04-17-2009, 06:32 PM
Walker at LT= FAIL

art vandelay
04-17-2009, 06:38 PM
I understand where you're coming from. I know the transition from RT to LT just doesn't happen over night. I would like to give him a try at it though. Didn't Peters play RT at first, then eventually switched to LT. Bell is extremely athletic just like the old Peters. I just think LT would be too overwhelming for Bell this early in his career.

Well Peters also has about 40 lbs. on Bell. Thing with Peters is that he is a freak of nature. He started at RT because of his size and the fact that he was just too raw to protect the blindside. A guy that size shouldn't have feet as quick as he does so since he does, why not put him at LT? Great run blocker and pass protector (when he goes to training camp).

art vandelay
04-17-2009, 06:39 PM
Walker at LT= FAIL

Yeah I know, and the funny thing is when you put him at RT=WIN

scottyboy
04-17-2009, 06:40 PM
Uh... I agree completely. Why would the NYG want him? He's a nimble lineman who would thrive in a ZBS.

THANK YOU! I've been saying that EVERYWHERE, but everyone's like: "you're dumb" or "you're just a Rutgers homer who hates UCONN players"

even told forenci the other day Beatty would be a beast in a ZBS but I don't want any part of him in Big Blue.

see, and people sometimes wonder why I'm a pompous ass in regards to prospects sometimes. behind this HUGE, and i mean HUGE Rutgers homer exterior is some football knowledge believe it or not!

bored of education
04-17-2009, 06:58 PM
THANK YOU! I've been saying that EVERYWHERE, but everyone's like: "you're dumb" or "you're just a Rutgers homer who hates UCONN players"

even told forenci the other day Beatty would be a beast in a ZBS but I don't want any part of him in Big Blue.

see, and people sometimes wonder why I'm a pompous ass in regards to prospects sometimes. behind this HUGE, and i mean HUGE Rutgers homer exterior is some football knowledge believe it or not!

Beatty is a fit for the Giants like ummmmm ummmmmmmmmm I'm a fit for Mr. Olympia

BlindSite
04-17-2009, 07:47 PM
Walker at LT= FAIL

The same thing was said about Gross before the 08 season and look what happened.

I don't mind this trade for either team involved, but I didn't think the eagles would've ponied up the first considering they could've got both of what they needed without trading anything. The fact that they gave up extra picks surprises me as well.

I just hope the bills find someone to replace peters and protect Edwards

coordinator0
04-17-2009, 07:53 PM
The same thing was said about Gross before the 08 season and look what happened.

I don't mind this trade for either team involved, but I didn't think the eagles would've ponied up the first considering they could've got both of what they needed without trading anything. The fact that they gave up extra picks surprises me as well.

I just hope the bills find someone to replace peters and protect Edwards

Did Gross play LT previously? I'm not sure but I think they're talking about how Walker did at LT in Oakland, not a hypothetical guess.

Thumper
04-17-2009, 07:56 PM
Think of it this way. Peters is way better than anyone the Eagles would've gotten at #28 and the 4th and some added late rounders.

j05son
04-17-2009, 08:07 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4077093

Peters to Philly for 1st (28th), 4th and undisclosed 2010 pick.

Vox Populi
04-17-2009, 08:28 PM
I think I'm one of the few Bills fans who absolutely hates this trade. If we weren't so royally cheap this would be a non-issue. All we did here was create more holes that will be filled by either cheap, ****** veterans or young inexperienced rookies/former backups who offer nothing but potential.

I don't really care about value, I want Pettigrew at #11 still and #28 just roll with the top rated OL left on the board.

BufFan71
04-17-2009, 10:08 PM
another move by the Bills FO that shows that they clearly have no idea on how to run a franchise

Thumper
04-17-2009, 10:09 PM
The Deal is done.

The Eagles and Jason Peters have agreed to a new contract.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/04/breaking-peters-eagles-strike-a-deal/

After being traded to the Philadelphia Eagles earlier today, former Buffalo Bills offensive tackle Jason Peters and his agent, Eugene Parker, didn’t waste any time locking down a brand new contract.

According to a league source close to the negotiations, Peters and the Eagles have agreed to a six-year deal that, with incentives, could be worth up to $60 million. Peters is scheduled to make $24 million in guaranteed money.

eaglesalltheway
04-17-2009, 10:11 PM
The Deal is done.

The Eagles and Jason Peters have agreed to a new contract.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/04/breaking-peters-eagles-strike-a-deal/

Key words there: "with incentives"... Just like I said, if not here, in the team forum. This will motivate him to become what he wants to get paid.

bearsfan_51
04-17-2009, 10:29 PM
Does anyone else see what's wrong with this?
When media-heads talk about the Bills they really have no idea what they're talking about.

The only thing that's wrong is that the Bills haven't joined the CFL yet. ;)

redbills
04-17-2009, 10:44 PM
Peters gave up 11.5 sacks last year in like 14 games last year. Yet every one is calling him a elite LT.

Sniper
04-17-2009, 10:54 PM
Peters gave up 11.5 sacks last year in like 14 games last year. Yet every one is calling him a elite LT.

Betcha he gives up way less than that with the new deal, the reporting to TC and the not playing in Buffalo factor.

redbills
04-17-2009, 10:57 PM
Betcha he gives up way less than that with the new deal, the reporting to TC and the not playing in Buffalo factor.

Philly better hope so.
But why would he try harder with a new deal?

Thumper
04-17-2009, 10:58 PM
Betcha he gives up way less than that with the new deal, the reporting to TC and the not playing in Buffalo factor.

Yeah he now has a huge deal is playing on a great line next to one of the best guards in the NFL last season in Todd Herramens. He will be working with the best offensive line coach in the NFL in Juan Castillo and a former offensive lineman in Andy Reid. He will also be playing for one of the biggest teams in America (market and fanbase wise) and playing in a city that is exciting (no disrespect to Applebees).

Thumper
04-17-2009, 10:58 PM
Philly better hope so.
But why would he try harder with a new deal?

the deal is loaded with incentives

redbills
04-17-2009, 11:01 PM
the deal is loaded with incentives

says who? link?

619
04-17-2009, 11:26 PM
says who? link?

Here's that link ..

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/17/its-official-eagles-agree-to-terms-with-peters/

SuperMcGee
04-18-2009, 12:30 AM
I would bet very highly that Peters will return to form next season. His training camp was essentially the first 3-4 weeks of the season. He let up alot of sacks early, and regained his dominance by season end. There was a reason that he was selected to the Pro Bowl by the players. He's an elite LT.

Peters never regained his dominance last season. There were times of slightly less sucking, but nothing amazing.

Peters played very well at RT.

Peters absolutely dominated at RT. Those are my fondest memories of him. 06 was his best year, even with only half of it being at LT.


And please no talk about Bell as our starting LT. Not now.

GB12
04-18-2009, 01:10 AM
Peters gave up 11.5 sacks last year in like 14 games last year. Yet every one is calling him a elite LT.
He made the pro bowl last year. You can't tell me he had a bad year if he was in Hawaii.

Dr. Gonzo
04-18-2009, 01:23 AM
He made the pro bowl last year. You can't tell me he had a bad year if he was in Hawaii.

I like Peters but Roy ZOMGZ Williams proves differently.

BaLLiN
04-18-2009, 04:05 AM
I like Peters but Roy ZOMGZ Williams proves differently.

he made it bc Sean Taylor died, hes that bad that a player has to die for him to go

P-L
04-18-2009, 10:12 AM
This is a risky move for Philly. I don't love it like the rest of the board does. Excuses or not, he was total garbage last year. Don't be fooled by his Pro Bowl selection, he was one of the worst left tackles in all of football this past year.

It's one thing to give up a 1st Round pick for a guy who's only had one elite season at left tackle and had one of the worst years of anyone at the position last year. However, it's borderline stupid to make that player the highest paid player at his position. This signing is very high risk, high reward.

Thumper
04-18-2009, 10:16 AM
This is a risky move for Philly. I don't love it like the rest of the board does. Excuses or not, he was total garbage last year. Don't be fooled by his Pro Bowl selection, he was one of the worst left tackles in all of football this past year.

It's one thing to give up a 1st Round pick for a guy who's only had one elite season at left tackle and had one of the worst years of anyone at the position last year. However, it's borderline stupid to make that player the highest paid player at his position. This signing is very high risk, high reward.

My feelings exactly however as I am an Eagles fan I would prefer to look at the reward instead of the risk.

Shane P. Hallam
04-18-2009, 10:59 AM
This is a risky move for Philly. I don't love it like the rest of the board does. Excuses or not, he was total garbage last year. Don't be fooled by his Pro Bowl selection, he was one of the worst left tackles in all of football this past year.

It's one thing to give up a 1st Round pick for a guy who's only had one elite season at left tackle and had one of the worst years of anyone at the position last year. However, it's borderline stupid to make that player the highest paid player at his position. This signing is very high risk, high reward.

I agree to a point. I think it works for Philly, since they have a good team and if the Peters isn't so great, they may be able to withstand it. But there was no way a team like Detroit or St. Louis should have jumped on this deal.

Jason Peters gave up 11.5 sacks in 13 games (as stated before). 3rd worst in the NFL, barely better than Jeff Backus.

Shane P. Hallam
04-18-2009, 11:01 AM
He made the pro bowl last year. You can't tell me he had a bad year if he was in Hawaii.

Errr...Pro Bowls are not always an indication of the top talent in the league. I don't think anyone believes Jason Peters was a better LT than Ryan Clady was last season because of the Pro Bowl.

Malaka
04-18-2009, 11:20 AM
Errr...Pro Bowls are not always an indication of the top talent in the league. I don't think anyone believes Jason Peters was a better LT than Ryan Clady was last season because of the Pro Bowl.

Maybe its just me, but I think he was being sarcastic...

Vikes99ej
04-18-2009, 11:20 AM
Errr...Pro Bowls are not always an indication of the top talent in the league. I don't think anyone believes Jason Peters was a better LT than Ryan Clady was last season because of the Pro Bowl.

I think he's being sarcastic haha

Addict
04-18-2009, 11:21 AM
I agree to a point. I think it works for Philly, since they have a good team and if the Peters isn't so great, they may be able to withstand it. But there was no way a team like Detroit or St. Louis should have jumped on this deal.

Jason Peters gave up 11.5 sacks in 13 games (as stated before). 3rd worst in the NFL, barely better than Jeff Backus.

Hahaha that guy sucks! Who the hell does he play fo-- it's still the lions isn't it? :( damn. We suck so bad it's not even funny anymore.

THE LIONS ARE BECOMMING BOAT TRIP.

Menardo75
04-18-2009, 01:56 PM
There isn't a tackle the Eagles could have gotten in the draft as good as Peters at his best unless they traded up. This is a very good move by them.

stephenson86
04-18-2009, 02:34 PM
he went to the pro bowl haters better zip :D

but seriously, its high risk high reward like stated above

Vox Populi
04-18-2009, 02:41 PM
This trade is still a win for the Eagles even with that contract, but the contract they gave him devalues the level of win in my opinion. The contract is good in a sense that Peters will still be making the same amount that he would in Buffalo over the next 2 years (if I read it correctly) and then the amount skyrockets in years 3-6. So he'll still have to prove he is worth the contract beyond the first two years and the guaranteed amount of the salary.

CC.SD
04-18-2009, 03:51 PM
he made it bc Sean Taylor died, hes that bad that a player has to die for him to go

Kind of weak sauce IMO

Todd Bertuzzi
04-18-2009, 04:03 PM
The Eagles also had a lot of cap room so they were able to offer Peters the contract he wanted.

DWhaLe
04-18-2009, 08:10 PM
LT Peters at 6'4" 340lbs.

LG: Max Jean-Gilles at 6'3" 358 lbs.

C: Jamaal Jackson at 6'4" 340 lbs.

RG: Shawn Andrews at 6'4" 335 lbs.

RT: Stacey Andrews at 6'7" 342 lbs.

I think the line is gonna end up like this

LT: Jason Peters
LG: Todd Herramens
C: Nick Cole
LG: Shawn Andrews
LT: Stacey Andrews

Go_Eagles77
04-18-2009, 08:21 PM
I think the line is gonna end up like this

LT: Jason Peters
LG: Todd Herramens
C: Nick Cole
LG: Shawn Andrews
LT: Stacey Andrews

That seems like a weird formation. I think we need some guys on the right. lol. I agree though, I think Nick Cole will beat out Jackson.

DWhaLe
04-18-2009, 08:47 PM
That seems like a weird formation. I think we need some guys on the right. lol. I agree though, I think Nick Cole will beat out Jackson.

Yeah.. He played great last year. I particularly remember in the playoff vickings game when he had that amazing block for Westbrook during that 70 Yard screen.

eaglesalltheway
04-19-2009, 01:19 PM
I also like Cole, and think He will win the C spot. As it is now with Jackson, our OL averages 334 lbs. Cole would only increase that, albeit slightly. Cole also brings better athletecism and quickness.