View Full Version : DG's final rankings (yay)

04-23-2009, 04:33 PM
Haven't really posted too much draft stuff this year, thought I'd post all my rankings and such though. Feel free to comment on anything, or post your own rankings, etc. I'll expand the top 50 into a top 100 before the draft. Also have the top 5 seniors and juniors for next year.

1. Matthew Stafford Georgia
2. Mark Sanchez USC
3. Josh Freeman Kansas State
4. Nate Davis Ball State
5. Chris Crane Boston College
6. Pat White WVU
7. Rhett Bomar Sam Houston State
8. Hunter Cantwell Louisville
9. Cullen Harper Clemson
10. Stephen McGee TAMU
11. Graham Harrell Texas Tech
12. Brian Hoyer Michigan State
13. Mike Reilly Central Washington
14. Nathan Brown Central Arkansas
15. Chase Daniels Missouri
16. Tom Brandstater Fresno State
17. John Parker Wilson Alabama
18. Rudy Carpenter Arizona State
19. Brian Johnson Utah
20. Curtis Painter Purdue
21. Todd Boeckman OSU
22. Sean Glennon Virginia Tech
23. Chase Holbrook NMSU

After the top guys I really don’t like anyone, the reason Chris Crane is so high is because in his very limited time he showed great tools and improved through out the year. I wouldn’t look at Crane before the 6th though. White as a player is much higher than Crane, just not as a QB.

1. Knowshon Moreno Georgia
2. Chris Wells Ohio State
3. Donald Brown Connecticut
4. LeSean McCoy Pittsburgh
5. Andre Brown NC State
6. Shonn Greene Iowa
7. Glen Coffee Alabama
8. James Davis Clemson
9. Mike Goodson TAMU
10. Cedric Peerman Virginia
11. Rashad Jennings Liberty
12. Javarris Williams Tennessee State
13. Javon Ringer Michigan State
14. Jeremiah Johnson Oregon
15. Aaron Brown TCU
16. Kory Sheets Purdue
17. PJ Hill Wisconsin
18. Arian Foster Tennessee
19. Marlon Lucky Nebraska
20. Ian Johnson Boise State
21. Devin Moore Wyoming
22. Gartrell Johnson Colorado State
23. Marcus Thigpen Indiana
24. Antone Smith FSU
25. Brad Lester Auburn
26. Tyrell Sutton Northwestern
27. Brandon Ore West Liberty State

Moreno and Wells are very close for me, Wells just scares me too much. Donald Brown isn’t very far away either. Really like Glen Coffee, think he is being over looked. Don’t like McCoy much at all and if I thought any of the other backs in the class were legit he would be much lower.

1. Quinn Johnson LSU
2. Tony Fiammetta Syracuse
3. Brannan Southerland Georgia
4. Conredge Collins Pittsburgh
5. Eric Kettani Navy
6. Jason Cook Ole Miss

Don’t really see the McClain stuff with Johnson but he is a very good lead blocker. Fought the ball a lot while he was at LSU though.

1. Michael Crabtree Texas Tech
2. Hakeem Nicks North Carolina
3. Percy Harvin Florida
4. Jeremy Maclin Missouri
5. Derrius Heyward-Bey Maryland
6. Kenny Britt Rutgers
7. Brian Robiskie OSU
8. Brandon Tate North Carolina
9. Derrick Williams PSU
10. Mohamed Massaquoi Georgia
11. Juaquin Iglesias Oklahoma
12. Sammie Stroughter Oregon State
13. Jarrett Dillard Rice
14. Brandon Gibson Washington State
15. Ramsas Barden Cal Poly
16. Demetrius Byrd LSU
17. Kenny McKinley South Carolina
18. Kevin Ogletree Virginia
19. Brooks Foster North Carolina
20. Louis Murphy Florida
21. Marko Mitchall Nevada
22. Mike Thomas Arizona
23. Quan Cosby Texas
24. Aaron Kelly Clemson
25. Mike Wallace Ole Miss
26. Manuel Johnson Oklahoma
27. Deon Butler Penn State
28. Patrick Turner USC
29. Jaison Williams Oregon
30. Jamarko Simmons Western Michigan
31. Austin Collie BYU
32. Johnny Knox Abilene Christian
33. Tiquan Underwood Rutgers
34. Demir Boldin Wake Forest
35. Lucas Taylor Tennessee
36. Greg Carr FSU
37. Jordan Norwood Penn State
38. Jeremy Childs Boise State
39. Brian Hartline Ohio State
40. Rod Smith Auburn
41. Dicky Lyons Jr Kentucky
42. George Smith Vanderbilt
43. Jeremy Gilchrist Hampton

Love Hakeem Nicks. Amazing hands and is very physical and has more explosiveness than he is given credit for. Maclin reminds me so much of Ted Ginn in a very bad way. Harvin has a lot of issues with health and such, but I love him on the field, underrated strength and is amazing in the open field. 8 to about 21 is pretty close for me, most of those guys could be switched around.

1. Brandon Pettigrew Oklahoma State
2. Shawn Nelson Southern Miss
3. Jared Cook South Carolina
4. James Casey Rice
5. Travis Beckum Wisconsin
6. Chase Coffman Missouri
7. Cornelius Ingram Florida
8. John Phillips Virginia
9. Cameron Morrah Cal
10. Ryan Purvis Boston College
11. Richard Quinn North Carolina
12. Darius Hill Ball State
13. Anthony Hill North Carolina State
14. Davon Drew East Carolina
15. Bear Pascoe Fresno State
16. Dan Gronkowski Maryland
17. Travis McCall Alabama
18. Andrew Davie Arkansas

Really like this group as a whole and I wouldn’t be shocked if any of the top 15 guys contribute. Injuries probably made me put Beckum and Ingram lower than they should be, but there are a lot of guys like them this year that played this year.

1. Jason Smith Baylor
2. Eugene Monroe Virginia
3. Michael Oher Mississippi
4. William Beatty Connecticut
5. Eben Britton Arizona
6. Phil Loadholt Oklahoma
7. Jason Watkins Florida
8. Gerald Cadogan Penn State
9. Andrew Gardner Georgia Tech
10. Dan Gay Baylor
11. Xavier Fulton Illinois
12. Troy Kropog Tulane
13. TJ Lang Eastern Michigan
14. Garrett Reynolds North Carolina
15. Fenuki Tupou Oregon
16. Joel Bell Furman
17. Alex Boone OSU
18. Augustus Parrish Kent Stams
19. Sebastian Vollmer Houston
20. Ramon Foster Tennessee
21. Lydon Murtha Nebraska

Love the top 2 guys and have them very close, I give Smith the edge because of the nastiness and Monroe’s lack of it. I’m a lot more comfortable with Oher at RT and LT with the inconsistency. Beatty has crazy tools and is nasty but is going to needs tons of work. Gardner had a poor senior season with injuries and the new offense but he looked like a stud LT as a junior. Gay is a bit short but could have starting potential at RT or inside.

1. Andre Smith Alabama
2. Duke Robinson Oklahoma
3. Jamon Merideth South Carolina
4. Max Unger Oregon
5. Andy Levitre Oregon State
6. Tyronne Green Auburn
7. Kraig Urbik Wisconsin
8. Trevor Canfield Cincinnati
9. Herman Johnson LSU
10. Cornelius Lewis Tennessee State
11. Greg Isdaner West Virginia
12. Brandon Walker Oklahoma
13. Seth Olsen Iowa
14. Cedrick Dockery Texas
15. Jaimie Thomas Maryland
16. Mitch Petrus Arkansas
17. Jeremy Perry Oregon State
18. Anthony Parker Tennessee
19. Steve Rehring OSU
20. Matt Slauson Nebraska

If Andre Smith if taken as a LT I don’t think there is much of a chance he does well. I think he’d be a pro bowl guard if he keeps his weight in check though. Merideth is another guy I have inside, I think he is overrated at tackle, but again, looks like he can be a very good guard. I have Unger at OG and not center because I think would be a much better fit there. Don’t see how he would be able to handle bigger DTs at center in the NFL. Amazing quickness, just don’t see the strength. Really like the top 8 guys and think all could start.

1. Alex Mack California
2. Eric Wood Louisville
3. Jonathan Luigs Arkansas
4. Antoine Caldwell Alabama
5. AQ Shipley Penn State
6. Edwin Williams Maryland
7. Ryan Shuman Virginia Tech
8. Jason Bosley Auburn
9. Brett Helms LSU
10. Jon Cooper Oklahoma
11. Juan Garcia Washington

Mack is one of my favorite players in the draft. Does everything you could ask of a center, great strength, can pull well and is a good pass blocker. Don’t see Wood as first round value but he is a great iso blocker.

1. Everrette Brown FSU
2. Brian Orakpo Texas
3. Aaron Maybin Penn State
4. Robert Ayers Tennessee
5. Larry English Northern Illinois
6. Michael Johnson GT
7. Connor Barwin Cincinnati
8. Cody Brown Connecticut
9. Paul Kruger Utah
10. Lawrence Sidbury Jr Richmond
11. Brandon Williams Texas Tech
12. Nick Reed Oregon
13. Kyle Moore USC
14. Victor Butler Oregon State
15. Will Davis Illinois
16. Matthew Shaughnessy Wisconsin
17. Henry Melton Texas
18. Tim Jamison Michigan
19. Pannel Egboh Stanford
20. Phillip Hunt Houston
21. Stryker Sulak Mizzou
22. Ian Campbell Kansas State
23. Maurice Evans Penn State
24. Michael Bennett TAMU
25. David Veikune Hawai’i
26. Willie Vandesteeg Minnesota
27. Derek Walker Illinoiss
28. Jamaal Westerman Rutgers

I wasn’t a fan of Gholston last year and I like him tons more than Orakpo. No pass rush moves, doesn’t have great quickness, great athlete, just don’t see it with him. Love Brown, great quickness and his spin move is just scary. Nick Reed is a great pass rusher and had a pretty good work out. Like him later in the draft.

1. BJ Raji Boston College
2. Peria Jerry Ole Miss
3. Ron Brace Boston College
4. Ziggy Hood Mizzou
5. Fili Moala USC
6. Jarron Gilbert San Jose State
7. Tyson Jackson LSU
8. Sen’Derrick Marks Auburn
9. Adrian Grady Louisville
10. Vance Walker Georgia Tech
11. Roy Miller Texas
12. Terrance Taylor Michigan
13. Myron Pryor Kentucky
14. Alex Magee Purdue
15. Chris Baker Hampton
16. Ricky Jean-Francois LSU
17. Darryl Richard Georgia Tech
18. Mitch King Iowa
19. Clinton McDonald Memphis
20. Khalif Mitchell ECU
21. Dorrell Scott Clemson
22. Sammie Lee Hill Stillman
23. Cory Irvin Georgia
24. Terrill Byrd Cincinnati
25. Demonte Bolden Tennessee
26. Marlon Favorite LSU
27. Antonio Dixon Miami

I like Ziggy, but don’t see the first round hype, I think he is a good 2nd round pick though. Like Unger, I have Tyson Jackson at DT because I think that is his best position, and even then, I don’t like him that much. He’s nowhere near good enough against the run to warrant the hype he is getting at 3-4 DE. He stands up way too much on the edge and doesn’t get good pressure at all. When he moved inside his quickness was there and he got good pressure and was better against the run inside than outside. Adrian Grady has ok size and measureables but does a great job of getting into the backfield.

1. Aaron Curry Wake Forest
2. Brian Cushing USC
3. Clint Sintim Virginia
4. Clay Matthews USC
5. Marcus Freeman OSU
6. Zach Follett Cal
7. Kaluka Maiava USC
8. Gerald McRath Southern Miss
9. Tyrone McKenzie USF
10. Anthony Heygood Purdue
11. Nic Harris Oklahoma
12. Jason Williams Western Illinois
13. DeAndre Levy Wisconsin
14. Kevin Ellison USC
15. Ashlee Palmer Ole Miss
16. Moise Fokou Maryland
17. Anthony Felder Cal
18. Jonathan Casillas Wisconsin
19. Chris Evans Auburn
20. Kevin Akins Boston College
21. Brian Toal Boston College
22. Solomon Elimimian Hawai’i
23. Joe Mortenson Kansas

I think Clay Matthews is another guy getting too much hype. Good edge rusher, but Clint Sintim is a much better pass rusher and had a lot more experience. Love the top 3 guys, but not a big fan of the rest of the group (though I do think the other guys will contribute).

1. Rey Maualuga USC
2. James Laurinaitis OSU
3. Jasper Brinkley South Carolina
4. Darry Beckwith LSU
5. Dannell Ellerbe Georgia
6. Jason Phillips TCU
7. Scott McKillop Pittsburgh
8. Dave Philistin Maryland
9. Antonio Appleby Virginia
10. Frantz Joseph FAU
11. Glenn Cook Miami
12. Worrell Williams Cal
13. Josh Mauga Nevada
14. Stanley Arnoux Wake Forest
15. Michael Tauiliili Duke
16. Derek Nicholson Florida State
17. Maurice Crum Notre Dame
18. Tony Fein Ole Miss
19. Ronnie Palmer Arizona
20. Rashad Bobino Texas

Don’t love Rey or Laurinaitis (would have had Spikes over both easily had he came out) but I like where their stocks have settled. Glad Brinkley is getting back to where he should be as well, he had a good senior season and great workouts. Don’t really like much after those guys.

1. Malcolm Jenkins OSU
2. Vontae Davis Illinois
3. Alphonso Smith Wake Forest
4. Darius Butler Connecticut
5. DJ Moore Vanderbilt
6. Sean Smith Utah
7. Jairus Byrd Oregon
8. Captain Munnerlyn South Carolina
9. Asher Allen Georgia
10. Macho Harris Virginia Tech
11. Mike Mickens Cincinnati
12. Joe Burnett UCF
13. Sherrod Martin Troy
14. Coye Francies San Jose State
15. Donald Washington OSU
16. Kevin Barnes Maryland
17. Deangelo Smith Cincinnati
18. Keenan Lewis Oregon State
19. Bruce Johnson Miami
20. Jerraud Powers Auburn
21. Domonique Johnson Jackson State
22. Lardarius Webb Nicholls State
23. Mark Parson Ohio
24. Cary Harris USC
25. Jahi-Word Daniels Georgia Tech
26. Brandon Underwood Cincinnati
27. Bradley Fletcher Iowa
28. Ellis Lankster West Virginia
29. Morgan Trent Michigan
30. Jacob Lacey Oklahoma State
31. DeAndre Wright New Mexico
32. Jackie Bates Hampton

Vontae Davis gets a lot of hate, but watch the Missouri and Ohio State game and say he doesn’t have talent. Lot of issues with him, but he has top notch tools. Never really loved Malcolm Jenkins and might like him a bit more at FS, but he is a very good player and doesn’t have that much risk. Love DJ Moore but his size/speed combo scares me and takes him out of a lot of situations. Really deep group and I like the top 20 or so guys. 8-20 could be in any order for me really.

1. Louis Delmas Western Michigan
2. Rashad Johnson Alabama
3. William Moore Mizzou
4. Emanuel Cook South Carolina
5. Patrick Chung Oregon
6. David Bruton Notre Dame
7. Chip Vaughn Wake Forest
8. Derek Pegues Mississippi State
9. Otis Wiley Michigan State
10. Michael Hamlin Clemson
11. Trimane Goddard North Carolina
12. Darcel McBath Texas Tech
13. Curtis Taylor LSU
14. CJ Spillman Marshall
15. Anthony Reddick Miami
16. Carlton Williams USF
17. Courtney Greene Rutgers
18. Reshard Langford Vanderbilt

Don’t like this group at all, Delmas should be a good player, but not a big fan of anyone else here. Loved Cook at South Carolina but he has had a horrendous end to the season/off season.

Big Board
1. Matthew Staffford QB Georgia
2. Aaron Curry OLB Wake Forest
3. Jason Smith OT Baylor
4. Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech
5. Eugene Monroe OT Virginia
6. Mark Sanchez QB USC
7. BJ Raji DT Boston College
8. Everette Brown DE Florida State
9. Hakeem Nicks WR North Carolina
10. Brian Cushing OLB USC
11. Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio State
12. Clint Sintim OLB Virginia
13. Knowshon Moreno Georgia
14. Rey Maualuga MLB USC
15. Brian Orakpo Texas
16. Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma State
17. Chris Wells RB Ohio State
18. Aaron Maybin DE Penn State
19. Alex Mack C Cal
20. Vontae Davis CB Illinois
21. Percy Harvin WR Florida
22. Andre Smith OG Alabama
23. Michael Oher OT Ole Miss
24. Peria Jerry DT Ole Miss
25. Robert Ayers DE Tennessee
26. Jeremy Maclin WR Mizzou
27. Louis Delmas S Western Michigan
28. Derrius Heyward-Bey Maryland
29. Larry English DE Northern Illinois
30. William Beatty OT Connecticut
31. Alphonso Smith CB Wake Forest
32. Donald Brown RB Connecticut
33. James Laurinaitis MLB Ohio State
34. Darius Butler CB Connecticut
35. Clay Matthews OLB USC
36. Josh Freeman QB Kansas State
37. Eben Britton OT Arizona
38. Eric Wood C Louisville
39. DJ Moore CB Vanderbilt
40. Kenny Britt WR Rutgers
41. Shawn Nelson TE Southern Miss
42. Brian Robiskie WR Ohio State
43. Rashad Johnson S Alabama
44. Ron Brace DT Boston College
45. Duke Robinson OG Oklahoma
46. Michael Johnson DE Georgia Tech
47. LeSean McCoy RB Pittsburgh
48. Jared Cook TE South Carolina
49. Ziggy Hood DT Mizzou
50. Connor Barwin DE Cincinnati
51. Fili Moala DT USC
52. Cody Brown DE Connecticut
53. Brandon Tate WR North Carolina
54. Phil Loadholt OT Oklahoma
55. Jarron Gilbert DT San Jose State
56. Derrick Williams WR PSU
57. James Casey TE Rice
58. Jamon Merideth OG South Carolina
59. Jasper Brinkley MLB South Carolina
60. Andre Brown RB NC State
61. Mohamed Massaquoi WR Georgia
62. Sean Smith CB Utah
63. Tyson Jackson DT LSU
64. Pat White QB WVU
65. Shonn Greene RB Iowa
66. Max Unger OG Oregon
67. Captain Munnerlyn CB South Carolina
68. Juaquin Iglesias WR Oklahoma
69. Paul Kruger DE Utah
70. Marcus Freeman OLB OSU
71. Jason Watkins OT Florida
72. Sen’Derrick Marks DT Auburn
73. Lawrence Sidbury DE Jr Richmond
74. Andy Levitre OG Oregon State
75. Travis Beckum TE Wisconsin
76. Glen Coffee RB Alabama
77. Nate Davis QB Ball State
78. Adrian Grady DT Louisville
79. William Moore S Mizzou
80. Sammie Stroughter WR Oregon State
81. Brandon Williams DE Texas Tech
82. Tyronne Green OG Auburn
83. Chris Crane QB Boston College
84. Kraig Urbik OG Wisconsin
85. Jairus Byrd CB Oregon
86. Jarrett Dillard WR Rice
87. Zach Follett LB Cal
88. Chase Coffman TE Missouri
89. Brandon Gibson WR Washington State
90. Asher Allen CB Georgia
91. Jonathan Luigs C Arkansas
92. Vance Walker DT Georgia Tech
93. Ramsas Barden WR Cal Poly
94. Cornelius Ingram TE Florida
95. Kaluka Maiava OLB USC
96. Nick Reed DE Oregon
97. Roy Miller DT Texas
98. Gerald Cadogan OT Penn State
99. Gerald McRath OLB Southern Miss
100. Quinn Johnson FB LSU

1. Colt McCoy Texas
2. Tim Tebow Florida
3. Tim Hiller Western Michigan
4. Daryll Clark Penn State
5. Dan LeFevour Central Michigan

1. Sam Bradford Oklahoma
2. Jake Locker Washington
3. Jevan Snead Ole Miss
4. Jimmy Clausen Notre Dame
5. Tyrod Taylor Virginia Tech

1. Charles Scott LSU
2. LaGarrette Blount Oregon
3. CJ Spiller Clemson
4. Chris Brown Oklahoma
5. Stafon Johnson USC

1. DeMarco Murray Oklahoma
2. Jonathan Dwyer Georgia Tech
3. Jahvid Best Cal
4. Joe McKnight USC
5. Graig Cooper Miami

1. Brandon LaFell LSU
2. Mardy Gilyard Cincinnati
3. Eric Decker Minnesota
4. Dexter McCluster Ole Miss
5. Naaman Roosevelt Buffalo

1. Arrelious Benn Illinois
2. Dez Bryant Oklahoma State
3. Damian Williams USC
4. Demaryius Thomas Georgia Tech
5. Golden Tate Notre Dame

1. Jermaine Gresham Oklahoma
2. Ed Dickson Oregon
3. Dedrick Epps Miami
4. Dennis Pitta BYU
5. Anthony McCoy USC

1. Rob Gronkowski Arizona
2. Anthony Hernandez Florida
3. Wesley Saunders South Carolina
4. Bruce Figgins Georgia
5. Brandon Warren Tennessee

1. Russell Okung Oklahoma State
2. Trent Williams Oklahoma
3. Jason Fox Miami
4. Adam Ulatoski Texas
5. Ciron Black LSU

1. Lee Ziemba Auburn
2. Trinton Sturdivant Georgia
3. Bryan Bulaga Iowa
4. Anthony Davis Rutgers
5. Anthony Castonzo Boston College

1. Sergio Render Virginia Tech
2. John Jerry Ole Miss
3. Mike Johnson Alabama
4. Brandon Carter Texas Tech
5. Lyle Hitt LSU

1. Mike Pouncey Florida
2. Jason Kelce Cincinnati
3. Orlando Franklin Miami
4. Rodney Hudson FSU
5. BJ Gabbell Virginia

1. Josh McNeil Tennessee
2. Thomas Austin Clemson
3. John Estes Hawai’i
4. Chris Hall Texas

1. Kristofer O’Dowd USC
2. Maurkice Pouncey Florida
3. Dan Wenger Notre Dame

1. Greg Hardy Ole Miss
2. George Selvie USF
3. Brandon Graham Michigan
4. Corey Wootton Northwestern
5. Antonio Coleman Auburn

1. Jeremy Beal Oklahoma
2. Everson Griffen USC
3. Carlos Dunlap Florida
4. Derrick Morgan Georgia Tech
5. Greg Romeus Pittsburgh

1. Ndamukong Suh Nebraska
2. Vince Oghobaase Duke
3. Geno Atkins Georgia
4. Arthur Jones Syracuse
5. Jared Odrick Penn State

1. Gerald McCoy Oklahoma
2. Marvin Austin North Carolina
3. Allen Bailey Miami
4. Brian Price UCLA
5. Kendrick Ellis Hampton

1. Mark Herzlich Boston College
2. Sergio Kindle Texas
3. Sean Weatherspoon Mizzou
4. Eric Norwood South Carolina
5. Sean Lee Penn State

1. Navorro Bowman Penn State
2. Nate Irving NC State
3. Martez Wilson Illinois
4. Greg Jones Michigan State
5. Rennie Curran Georgia

1. Brandon Spikes Florida
2. Micah Johnson Kentucky
3. Ryan Reynolds Oklahoma
4. Joe Pawelek Baylor
5. Darryl Sharpton Miami

1. Rolando McClain Alabama
2. Josh Bynes Auburn
3. Obi Ezeh Michigan
4. Alex Wujciak Maryland
5. Darryl Gamble Georgia

1. Syd’Quan Thompson Cal
2. Brian Jackson Oklahoma
3. Trevard Lindley Kentucky
4. Javier Arenas Alabama
5. Stephen Virgil Virginia Tech

1. Joe Haden Florida
2. Ras-I Dowling Virginia
3. Donovan Warren Michigan
4. Omar Bolden Arizona State
5. Jai Eugene LSU

1. Taylor Mays USC
2. Darian Stewart South Carolina
3. Myron Rolle Florida State
4. Kam Chancellor Virginia Tech
5. Andre Sexton Oklahoma State

1. Eric Berry Tennessee
2. Major Wright Florida
3. Reshad Jones Georgia
4. Morgan Burnett Georgia Tech
5. Chad Jones LSU

Top 10 Seniors
1. Brandon Spikes MLB Florida
2. Mark Herzlich OLB Boston College
3. Taylor Mays S USC
4. Russell Okung OT Oklahoma State
5. Jermaine Gresham TE Oklahoma
6. Sergio Kindle OLB Texas
7. Ndamukong Suh DT Nebraska
8. Greg Hardy DE Ole Miss
9. George Selvie DE USF
10. Trent Williams OT Oklahoma

Top 10 Juniors
1. Gerald McCoy DT Oklahoma
2. Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma
3. Eric Berry S Tennessee
4. Rolando McClain MLB Alabama
5. DeMarco Murray RB Oklahoma
6. Arrelious Benn WR Illinois
7. Dez Bryant WR Oklahoma State
8. Rob Gronkowski TE Arizona
9. Lee Ziemba OT Auburn
10. Jeremy Beal DE Oklahoma

San Diego Chicken
04-23-2009, 04:46 PM
Great job.

04-23-2009, 04:52 PM
Best Ive seen thus far!

Finally someone who isnt completely buying the MAYS stock.

Spikes is too high though. He certainly looks the part but he isnt all that flexible and has been known as a "glass figurine".

04-23-2009, 04:55 PM
Major Wright and Morgan Burnett FTW!

Don Vito
04-23-2009, 05:06 PM
Great job. I really like the Chris Crane mention, it seems that people have completely forgot about him since his shoulder injury. He was doing great for BC until he went down, then Dominick Davis sucked it up. Crane is big with an accurate arm and he is VERY mobile. I think he would be a very nice developmental guy.

This may be the homer in me, but I think one guy who may suprise a lot of people when next season rolls around is Mike Wallace. He really put it together at the end of his senior year and was a big-time weapon for Snead, he has good size and is a flat out burner with suprisingly good hands. He could be a real nice deep threat/KR, he reminds me of Bernard Berrian.

art vandelay
04-23-2009, 06:51 PM
Nice! Another Crane fan. I've been posting about this guy in just about every sleeper thread. I think he could really end up being a steal for someone.

04-23-2009, 06:58 PM
Great job. I love the rankings. I like seeing the Miami love for next year.

04-23-2009, 07:10 PM
Great DG, way to make me feel lazy for not writing any draft stuff in months!

I like what I saw for the most part, although a few things caught my eye...

- I completely disagree on Maclin. Totally and utterly. You know I was no fan of Ginn coming out of Ohio State, but that was for one particular reason. He was wicked fast, but he had zero stop-start ability. He couldn't cut, he couldn't change direction, he couldn't juke. This meant he couldn't run crisp short routes and his hitch-and-go would be a disaster. In this vital aspect, Maclin is totally different. He changes direction easily and re-acclerates much better than Ginn did. He makes guys miss in the open field with tricks other than blistering speed. He has better hands and body control than Ginn.

I have him as only a couple notches behind Crabtree (albeit because I think Crabtree runs the risk of being a high-profile bust).

- I also disagree on Orakpo being worse than Gholston. I do think Orakpo is a bit overrated as a pass rusher, but he uses his strength well in the run game and is better balanced than he's given credit for. He's twice as smooth as Gholston could ever hope to be.

I'd be interested in seeing you add an edge rushing category.

- I don't like Ron Brace anywhere close to that high, but that's a gripe I have with most rankings, not just yours.

Anyway, awesome stuff. Love the '10 stuff as well.

04-23-2009, 08:09 PM
Well, I like Maclin more than Ginn (a fair amount), I guess I'm just kinda shocked that it hasn't been mentioned more. Maclin can definitely change direction better than Ginn, but he's still a strider, and it's not that I don't like him, it's more of that he scares me, and why I have Harvin higher. (random comment about Ginn, kinda funny that at this point his body control and change of direction have been fine, he just hasn't figured out how to combine that with the top speed, which he has barely shown, if at all).

I'd take Orakpo at OLB over Gholston, never bought him at OLB, I just see Orakpo as a similiar player that just isn't as good. Again, like him, just think he is overrated. (tried to think of a legit argument for this but my brain doesn't want to function atm).

I really really like Brace, had him over Perry for a bit (before I watched Perry destroy LSU, kinda made me rethink that), and there were a few games where he looked better than Raji. I think his quickness is fairly underrated, his motor is pretty good, good strength, and I probably overrate him a bit because of the NT potential (and want him in Miami).

Always think about doing the 3-4 rankings and such, but bleh, maybe next year.

Kinda shocked at the Chris Crane love lol.

Shane P. Hallam
04-23-2009, 08:29 PM
Well, I like Maclin more than Ginn (a fair amount), I guess I'm just kinda shocked that it hasn't been mentioned more. Maclin can definitely change direction better than Ginn, but he's still a strider, and it's not that I don't like him, it's more of that he scares me, and why I have Harvin higher. (random comment about Ginn, kinda funny that at this point his body control and change of direction have been fine, he just hasn't figured out how to combine that with the top speed, which he has barely shown, if at all).

I'd take Orakpo at OLB over Gholston, never bought him at OLB, I just see Orakpo as a similiar player that just isn't as good. Again, like him, just think he is overrated. (tried to think of a legit argument for this but my brain doesn't want to function atm).

I really really like Brace, had him over Perry for a bit (before I watched Perry destroy LSU, kinda made me rethink that), and there were a few games where he looked better than Raji. I think his quickness is fairly underrated, his motor is pretty good, good strength, and I probably overrate him a bit because of the NT potential (and want him in Miami).

Always think about doing the 3-4 rankings and such, but bleh, maybe next year.

Kinda shocked at the Chris Crane love lol.

Brace reminds me A LOT of Casey Hampton as a prospect.

Matthew Jones
04-23-2009, 08:36 PM
Definitely some very different rankings than what I'm going to have. +rep on a ton of work though!

04-23-2009, 08:44 PM
Sergio Kindle wishes he was as good as Sean Weatherspoon. Very nice work though. That had to take some time.

04-24-2009, 12:22 PM
(random comment about Ginn, kinda funny that at this point his body control and change of direction have been fine, he just hasn't figured out how to combine that with the top speed, which he has barely shown, if at all).

Right, that was the concern. Either he'd keep the speed and lose the ability to do things an NFL wide receiver needs to do, or he'd be forced to do the things a wideout needs to do and lose his speed. It was going to be either one or the other.

Just a guy being a long strider doesn't mean anything. DeSean Jackson was a long strider with great cutting ability of COD-skills. So was Randy Moss (who was arguably a longer strider than any of the more recently drafted long-striders). Ginn's concerns weren't just that he had a long stride, it was that his lateral movement was pretty much non-existant when he hit that stride. It was/is a unique problem, not one that's shared by all guys with a track running style. It doesn't help that his acceleration from a stand-still was way behind the other guys I mentioned, even if his top speed was better.

Simply being like Ginn in certain ways doesn't make Maclin all that worrisome to me, because he's not like Ginn in that one, most worrying way.