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Paul
04-25-2009, 12:01 AM
It's that day once again fellas. I'm going to steal some ideas from other team threads and post the picks and any trades on here as the day goes along. And if they want, D and Thule can edit and update this as much they please.

Draft Picks
Round 3 (69) - Jason Williams, LB, Western Illinois Scouting Report (http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/olb/Jason-Williams.php)
Round 3 (75) - Robert Brewster, OL, Ball St. Scouting Report (http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/ot/Robert-Brewster.php)
Round 4 (101) - Stephen McGee, QB, Texas A&M Scouting Report (http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/qb/Stephen-McGee.php)
Round 4 (110) - Victor Butler, DE/OLB, Oregon ST Scouting Report (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/profiles/victor-butler?id=80725#profiles-tabs:players-analysis)
Round 4 (120) - Brandon Williams, DE/OLB, Texas Tech Scouting Report (http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/de/Brandon-Williams.php)
Round 5 (143) - Deangelo Smith, CB, Cincinati Scouting Report (http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/cb/DeAngelo-Smith.php)
Round 5 (166) - Michael Hamlin, S, Clemson Scouting Report (http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/s/Michael-Hamlin.php)
Round 5 (172) - David Buehler, K, USC Scouting Report (http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/k/David-Buehler.php)
Round 6 (197) - Stephen Hodge, S/LB, TCU Scouting Report (http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/s/Stephen-Hodge.php)
Round 6 (208) - John Phillips, TE, Virginia Scouting Report (http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/te/John-Phillips.php)
Round 7 (227) - Mike Mickens, CB, Cincinati Scouting Report (http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/cb/Mike-Mickens.php)
Round 7 (229) - Manuel Johnson, WR, Oklahoma Scouting Report (http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/wr/Manuel-Johnson.php)

Trades
1. Trade with Buffalo
Cowboys Trade:
Pick #51 (Round 2)

Cowboys Receive:
Pick #75 (Round 3)
Pick #110 (Round 4)

2. Trade With Buccaneers
Cowboys Trade:
Pick #117

Cowboys Recieve :
Pick #120
Pick #229

3. Trade From Raiders through Falcons
Cowboys Trade:
Pick #156 and Pick #210

Cowboys Receive:
Pick #143

Paul
04-25-2009, 11:26 AM
Ha, taking a look back.

With the 22nd pick of the 2008 NFL draft the Dallas Cowboys Select... Felix Jones, Running Back, Arkansas.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I think I'm going to be sick

What an idiot. What an absolute idiot.

Wow what a f'n joke.

Seriously might hurt someone today.

This Is ******* ********!!!!

Fuckyoufuckyoufuckyoujerryihopeyoufuckingdiebitch!

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm really thinking about being a dolphins fan....I can't believe that just happened.

Can somebody cheer me up? I hate Felix.

Im_a_Romosexual
04-25-2009, 11:30 AM
dang I was pretty harsh.

and kind of a tool. Wow. I thought Mike Jenkins should've been the pick and we were lucky to land him later.

pocketaces
04-25-2009, 11:41 AM
dang I was pretty harsh.

and kind of a tool. Wow. I thought Mike Jenkins should've been the pick and we were lucky to land him later.

Yeah, I think most of us thought Jenkins should be the pick. If we would have taken Jenkins and then Felix it would have been fine. We got them both so its all good.:D

E-Man
04-25-2009, 12:25 PM
LMAO @ y'all last year. But hey I was pissed when they drafted Ware so I'm not pointing fingers at anybody lol. But is anybody else bummed that the draft is moved back to the middle of the day? I woke up about 30 minutes ago anxious, and then got pissed got I forgot. Damn that Goodell!

pocketaces
04-25-2009, 12:32 PM
LMAO @ y'all last year. But hey I was pissed when they drafted Ware so I'm not pointing fingers at anybody lol. But is anybody else bummed that the draft is moved back to the middle of the day? I woke up about 30 minutes ago anxious, and then got pissed got I forgot. Damn that Goodell!

Yeah I hate it, about to turn on the PS3. We wont pick till close to 10 CST. Tomorrow will be sweet though, 9AM.

pocketaces
04-25-2009, 04:02 PM
The Raiders hahahahaha

Paul
04-25-2009, 04:05 PM
Al Davis is the best thing in the NFL.

LonghornsLegend
04-25-2009, 04:18 PM
Ha, taking a look back.

With the 22nd pick of the 2008 NFL draft the Dallas Cowboys Select... Felix Jones, Running Back, Arkansas.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, good find Paul, I think we got tired of seeing that pick in a mock for so long, whatever, as long as the pick pans out, but I think majority of us were upset about Mendenhall and Jenkings being on the bored more so then Felix as a player.



Long way to go till 51, I'm hoping for Delmas 1st, Gilbert 2nd, either would be awesome.

Paul
04-25-2009, 04:40 PM
Time to change that Orakpo sig LL.

crisco0710
04-25-2009, 05:08 PM
Man I predicted heyward to raiders. I read a mock draft who had them taking him in NOVEMBER. Ever since then I agreed with that lol

LonghornsLegend
04-25-2009, 05:11 PM
Time to change that Orakpo sig LL.

Yea, their D-line is starting to look scary...I'll be switching to a new Longhorn player or somebody that we draft that I like, good pick for them though.


I predicted DHB to Oakland too in the draft prediction thread, crazy Al loves speed lol.



I'm starting to get jealous that Oher is still on the board with our 20th pick, that would of been my pick most likely :(

LonghornsLegend
04-25-2009, 05:12 PM
Wow, I think the Eagles just took Maclin, WTF!?!?! That's pretty scary.

Paul
04-25-2009, 05:15 PM
Uncool philly. :(

M.O.T.H.
04-25-2009, 05:41 PM
Jerry said there is one scneraio in which we would move up for a specific player. interesting. Dont know if that means the bottom of the 1st, though.

D-Unit
04-25-2009, 05:43 PM
I want Dallas to trade up for Rey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

D-Unit
04-25-2009, 05:43 PM
Give me your aim if you wanna join a chat room I'm in

M.O.T.H.
04-25-2009, 06:29 PM
Getting close now...several surprises still on the board.

Paul
04-25-2009, 06:36 PM
Weak. There goes Delmas.

M.O.T.H.
04-25-2009, 06:36 PM
Ouch my heart...there are still others I really like, though.

LonghornsLegend
04-25-2009, 06:38 PM
:( Why Detroit.


Maybe Gilbert or Beatty can still be had :(

LonghornsLegend
04-25-2009, 06:47 PM
Everette Brown anyone?? He's sliding down the board and looks like another option for us.


edit: actually lots of guys left.


Jarron Gilbert
William Beatty
Everette Brown
Darius Butler
Sean Smith



Who else are we missing? Somebody should fall to us.

Paul
04-25-2009, 06:52 PM
Broncos gave a up there 2010 1st for Alphonso Smith. WTF

M.O.T.H.
04-25-2009, 06:53 PM
Everette Brown anyone?? He's sliding down the board and looks like another option for us.


edit: actually lots of guys left.


Jarron Gilbert
William Beatty
Everette Brown
Darius Butler
Sean Smith



Who else are we missing? Somebody should fall to us.

Rashad Johnson and Clint Sintim as well. Freaking Rey is still available.

Modano
04-25-2009, 06:55 PM
Let's make a move for Ray!

Crimson79
04-25-2009, 06:57 PM
I would be pumped for Reshad Johnson, Jarron Gilbert, Sean Smith, or William Beatty.

Paul
04-25-2009, 06:58 PM
I would be pumped for Reshad Johnson, Jarron Gilbert, Sean Smith, or William Beatty.

That is pretty sexy.

LonghornsLegend
04-25-2009, 07:13 PM
Well everyone who hated Brace, watch him end up a BEAST in the Pats scheme...Speaking of them, what a draft so far.

M.O.T.H.
04-25-2009, 07:14 PM
Wilfork isnt going anywhere. Brace will be chilling on the bench.

E-Man
04-25-2009, 07:18 PM
I'm sticking with my Loadholt guns, but somehow Sean Smith keeps creeping in my mind right now. I wouldn't be surprised to see a trade in a little bit here to get Gilbert. I can hear thule and D-Unit have a collective sigh of relief for Brace going to the Pats. lol

LonghornsLegend
04-25-2009, 07:20 PM
Wilfork isnt going anywhere. Brace will be chilling on the bench.

Not now of course, but his contract is up, and they wouldn't of took him in the 2nd if they didn't have plans for him...Besides I never said anything about him starting right off the bat, I just said he'll be good.

Crimson79
04-25-2009, 07:20 PM
No Loadholt!! I will vomit KFC all over my room. Something I would like to avoid. I will go grab the trash can now.

D-Unit
04-25-2009, 07:21 PM
Brace being gone makes me happy... for now. Can't believe the Pats drafted Chung using the pick they got for Cassell and Vrabel.

LonghornsLegend
04-25-2009, 07:25 PM
Sean Smith excites me in so many ways thinking about him here, we could try him out at FS and CB both and see where he finds a home at, I'd be very talented with someone of his caliber in the 2nd.

M.O.T.H.
04-25-2009, 07:26 PM
Not now of course, but his contract is up, and they wouldn't of took him in the 2nd if they didn't have plans for him...Besides I never said anything about him starting right off the bat, I just said he'll be good.

We'll see...Wilfork is in talks to sign a massive extension so, it will be intersting to see how he's going to see the field.

Paul
04-25-2009, 07:27 PM
Pat White gone. Thank you.

Im_a_Romosexual
04-25-2009, 07:29 PM
:big sigh of relief:

M.O.T.H.
04-25-2009, 07:29 PM
Yeah for real. I didnt think there was any chance we would actually take him anyway but still. Glad JJ doesnt even get the opportunity to think about it.

M.O.T.H.
04-25-2009, 07:31 PM
Damn there goes Sintim.

Still a few picks away but we're probably looking at...

Jarron Gilbert
Rashad Johnson
William Beatty
William Moore
Connor Barwin
Sean Smith

You could probably add Levitre to that. (NOOOOOOOOOOO)

M.O.T.H.
04-25-2009, 07:34 PM
If Dallas really wants to go for pass rushing early, they could go the scary route and take Michael Johnson if available. eeek.

Denver could be sitting on Gilbert in a few picks.

Barwin just taken.

Paul
04-25-2009, 07:36 PM
Sooo close. I see our logo.

pocketaces
04-25-2009, 07:37 PM
Watch we will trade down haha

E-Man
04-25-2009, 07:37 PM
Thankg God no Pat White. I don't get the love for this guy. A few years back people were criticizing Reggie McNeal for doing exactly what Pat White did. Now these same people are on his jock like there aren't QBs who do the same thing. He'll probably get a few big plays in 2 years, but he doesn't seem like a guy that will do anything consistent.

LonghornsLegend
04-25-2009, 07:40 PM
Watch us take a WR and I'll have to kill myself, ugh.


Please, Gilbert, Beatty, Sean Smith, give me one of those 3!!!


Having Denver and Cleveland in front of us scares me.

pocketaces
04-25-2009, 07:44 PM
Ouch....our top two safeties gone

M.O.T.H.
04-25-2009, 07:48 PM
Jarron Gilbert
Rashad Johnson
William Beatty
William Moore
Sean Smith

God this slow down is awful for me.

LonghornsLegend
04-25-2009, 07:50 PM
Kinda hurt seeing McBath go, I thought he could of lasted till our early 3rd if we went with a DE here, that sucks...Makes me think safety may be a bigger consideration, I just prefer Smith because he's a tweener, and he could help us out at corner this year with Sensabaugh at safety.


I would be ok with Rashad Johnson and Moore, just not over Smith for me...I like Gilbert MUCH MUCH more then the latter two safeties, Spears is leaving in a year, pull the freakin trigger!

E-Man
04-25-2009, 07:51 PM
Anybody else's heart beating fast right now?

M.O.T.H.
04-25-2009, 07:52 PM
Here we go...

Im_a_Romosexual
04-25-2009, 07:53 PM
Gilbert
Beatty
Moore
Smith

one of those please. In that order of preference

LonghornsLegend
04-25-2009, 07:55 PM
Am I the only one that gets the feeling this will be a let down pick? Even though there are lots of guys available I want, I feel like were gonna go in a different direction.

crisco0710
04-25-2009, 07:56 PM
I see a trade.

cdub11
04-25-2009, 07:56 PM
Im hoping for Gilbert, Moore, Beatty in that order

LonghornsLegend
04-25-2009, 07:59 PM
I knew it smh, I just knew it....HAD to be something GAY...If Cleveland takes Gilbert I'll throw up..Pass?

Im_a_Romosexual
04-25-2009, 07:59 PM
what the **** is going on?

pocketaces
04-25-2009, 07:59 PM
Told you hahaha

Crimson79
04-25-2009, 07:59 PM
Impossible for us to do things the simple way.

M.O.T.H.
04-25-2009, 07:59 PM
Trading down....

Im_a_Romosexual
04-25-2009, 08:00 PM
TRADE!!!!! What are we doing?

Paul
04-25-2009, 08:00 PM
That was a bunch of mess. But apparently we've traded.

crisco0710
04-25-2009, 08:00 PM
Called it, too many players to choose from. Might as well get an extra pick and drop back a few.

M.O.T.H.
04-25-2009, 08:00 PM
Buffalo doesnt even have a 2nd for us, either. Great day this is going to be.

M.O.T.H.
04-25-2009, 08:02 PM
I wonder if Ko Simpson was actually involved...

LonghornsLegend
04-25-2009, 08:02 PM
:(:(:(:(:(:(

pocketaces
04-25-2009, 08:03 PM
Buffalo doesnt even have a 2nd for us, either. Great day this is going to be.

Tomorrow is going to be fun. Thank God we are not Raider fans

crisco0710
04-25-2009, 08:03 PM
Got the 75th and 100 and something

M.O.T.H.
04-25-2009, 08:03 PM
Yes we did...

E-Man
04-25-2009, 08:04 PM
Hopefully the 'Boys get a next year first rounder for that. There's been some of that stupidity going around today, so hopefully Jerry and crew lucked up with that trade.

M.O.T.H.
04-25-2009, 08:05 PM
No...they got Buff's 3rd and 4th rounder for this year.

Modano
04-25-2009, 08:06 PM
Crap, so I stayed awake till 3 am for nothing? Good night guys...

LonghornsLegend
04-25-2009, 08:06 PM
I'll see who we get with that 3rd before I say if I like it or not, but got damn, there were some good players there, I hate the idea of always trading down like this when there are good players available.

M.O.T.H.
04-25-2009, 08:07 PM
We could be sitting on Sean Smith...with Moore and Johnson slipping, Smith may be available in the 3rd. Hopefully atleast one of the guys we had listed will slip through to round 3.

Im_a_Romosexual
04-25-2009, 08:08 PM
so
69
75
101
bills 4th
117
156
166
172*
197
208*
210
227

too many picks

Paul
04-25-2009, 08:08 PM
75th pick and 110th. Really? REALLY?

Do we really need 12 day 2 picks. WTF

M.O.T.H.
04-25-2009, 08:09 PM
Worst draft day for the Cowboys I've seen...Hopefully, day 2 will be better, but it is unlikely that we get more than 1 starter out of this entire draft, and that would be an utter failure of 2004 proportions

We werent drafting for a starter even when we had that pick. The only way a player would start is if pick 51 was a safety and he beat out Sensabaugh.

E-Man
04-25-2009, 08:09 PM
I don't think it was that bad a move. Chances are there is a slew of guys that were on the list, and two or three are bound to be there tomorrow if they don't trade back into the second. I think they'll trade back into the second before it's all said and done. Once again damn Goodell for making the day one shorter.

pocketaces
04-25-2009, 08:10 PM
Were going to trade back up. Watch and see.

LonghornsLegend
04-25-2009, 08:12 PM
Worst draft day for the Cowboys I've seen...Hopefully, day 2 will be better, but it is unlikely that we get more than 1 starter out of this entire draft, and that would be an utter failure of 2004 proportions

LOL the time of year people always want to jump to conclusions...Just like we didn't find Scandrick or Choice last year right? Or Ratliff, Crayton, Reeves, and countless others right? I didn't want to trade down, but more picks increases your chances, it's naive to think that a 2nd day draft pick won't make the team.


I agree, we will be trading up, I think we couldn't decide who we wanted, so we are going to wait until some guys are picked then move up for someone.

E-Man
04-25-2009, 08:12 PM
Worst draft day for the Cowboys I've seen...Hopefully, day 2 will be better, but it is unlikely that we get more than 1 starter out of this entire draft, and that would be an utter failure of 2004 proportions

Remember the 2001 draft? Quincy, Tony Dixon, and Willie Blade all on the first day. Sure whoever gets picked could suck like they did, but they weren't exactly good picks at the time either. Quincy was a 4th rounder at best. Dixon didn't even finish starting, and Blade was the only decent pick then.

D-Unit
04-25-2009, 08:14 PM
Jerry got too cute. He better trade back in Round 2.

pocketaces
04-25-2009, 08:14 PM
LOL the time of year people always want to jump to conclusions...Just like we didn't find Scandrick or Choice last year right? Or Ratliff, Crayton, Reeves, and countless others right? I didn't want to trade down, but more picks increases your chances, it's naive to think that a 2nd day draft pick won't make the team.


I agree, we will be trading up, I think we couldn't decide who we wanted, so we are going to wait until some guys are picked then move up for someone.

I disagree. I think we have someone we want and we can get him a little later.

Paul
04-25-2009, 08:15 PM
First post has been updated.

E-Man
04-25-2009, 08:20 PM
My guy Loadholt is gone, but it's no big deal. I loved his strength, and I thought him being closer to Dallas would help but no problem. There are a ton of good guys at this point right now. This draft is really for role players, and possible future starters anyway. Does anybody really think that whoever gets drafted will be a starter? What we're looking for now is nickel players, D-Line rotation guys, and people who can be a factor in two years. Right now the Cowboys have a chance to take guys that have talent, but little hiccups that kept them from being drafted higher. Taking guys like Sean Smith or Jarron Gilbert makes a ton of sense. Great athleticism, but needs a little bit of polish. We're looking at something of a luxury here. I'm not really pissed outside outside of having to wait so long. lol

cdub11
04-25-2009, 08:27 PM
What picks do we have tomorrow?

Paul
04-25-2009, 08:28 PM
What picks do we have tomorrow?

It's all on the first post of this thread.

LonghornsLegend
04-25-2009, 08:30 PM
Look, those drafts are the exceptions rather than the norm, and Even on those drafts we managed to get good picks in on Day 1...

Chances are,even with that many picks, most of them will be backups who won't contribute, a few who could be contributing backups, and maybe 1 or 2 that makes it as a starter..

You're right that it increases our chances of finding a gem later on by having multiple picks, but that's not a terribly smart idea to pile up picks and hope you strike rare gold in the later rounds.


For all you know the guy we wanted at 51 could be had at 71, your overreacting without waiting to see it play out...If you get a guy 20 picks later, and get an extra 4th rounder for it, by all means great move.


I don't know why you think it's so hard for a 3rd-5th rounder to end up a starter, since when have those picks been the type that don't make the roster? Maybe we should just trade away any pick in those rounds if were already good, not like we'll draft anyone good right?

thule
04-25-2009, 08:36 PM
Jason Williams....

Paul
04-25-2009, 08:36 PM
William Beatty to NYG is a bit disappointing.

D-Unit
04-25-2009, 08:38 PM
Giants had a friggen GREAT draft.


0. The number of starters we get from this draft.

pocketaces
04-25-2009, 08:38 PM
Apparently there was nobody left that they had a 2nd round grade on. Tomorrow we have a 12 picks and can take anybody we want. Just because the "books and experts" say they are, doesn't make it so. I'm just glad we didn't reach on somebody.

cdub11
04-25-2009, 08:39 PM
Solid drafts for teams in our division

Skins: Brian Orakpo
Eagles: Jeremy Maclin, Lesean McCoy
Giants: Hakeem Nicks, Clint Sintim, William Beatty

Paul
04-25-2009, 08:40 PM
Apparently there was nobody left that they had a 2nd round grade on. Tomorrow we have a 12 picks and can take anybody we want. Just because the "books and experts" say they are, doesn't make it so. I'm just glad we didn't reach on somebody.

I would like to see some trades that will get us picks for 2010. We really don't need 10-12 rookies coming on to this team this year.

D-Unit
04-25-2009, 08:40 PM
Apparently there was nobody left that they had a 2nd round grade on. Tomorrow we have a 12 picks and can take anybody we want. Just because the "books and experts" say they are, doesn't make it so. I'm just glad we didn't reach on somebody.
WTF? How can you be happy? If they didn't have anyone graded as a 2nd rounder, then they suck ass at building a big board. I'm so F'n pissed right now. If we don't get Gilbert, I will be livid.

E-Man
04-25-2009, 08:40 PM
One thing to keep in mind is that Roy Williams is practically the Cowboys' first rounder. Sure he could've been gotten cheaper, and Boldin could've been had blah blah blah. The fact is that he's the first rounder, and would make a bigger impact than anybody that would've been drafted in the first. The 'Boys are ok. It's just a late second that's missing.

cdub11
04-25-2009, 08:41 PM
WTF? How can you be happy? If they didn't have anyone graded as a 2nd rounder, then they suck ass at building a big board. I'm so F'n pissed right now. If we don't get Gilbert, I will be livid.

yeah I really wanted Gilbert

M.O.T.H.
04-25-2009, 08:41 PM
We should still be in good shape, I mean Jarron Gilbert, Rashad Johnson, and Sean Smith could all be had in the 3rd, if they make it through these last few selections. Any of those three could have been drafted early in the 2nd and no one would say a word. There is still quite a lot of talent out there. Could end up being a very good trade actually.

Im_a_Romosexual
04-25-2009, 08:42 PM
cross smith off :/

DallCowby1
04-25-2009, 08:42 PM
Stephen and Jerry are working the phones. Might be trying to get back into the 2nd rd.

M.O.T.H.
04-25-2009, 08:42 PM
cross smith off :/

god damn it.

Please let Rashad and Gilbert slip through to the 3rd.

DallCowby1
04-25-2009, 08:43 PM
Yeah, Beatty to the Ginats sucks. I was thinking Beatty would replace Flozell Adams in a year or two.

Maybe, Maybe not!

pocketaces
04-25-2009, 08:43 PM
WTF? How can you be happy? If they didn't have anyone graded as a 2nd rounder, then they suck ass at building a big board. I'm so F'n pissed right now. If we don't get Gilbert, I will be livid.

Well this was a weak weak weak draft. The first round might have only been 20 deep, who knows? All I know is after last years draft you have to trust our guys. Wait till tomorrow before we get too fired up.

Paul
04-25-2009, 08:44 PM
Agreed. Any combination of Rashad Johnson, Gilbert and Duke would ease the inconvenience of waiting 5 hours for nothing. For me at least.

Im_a_Romosexual
04-25-2009, 08:44 PM
Dodged a bullet IMO, with TEN going with Marks

D-Unit
04-25-2009, 08:45 PM
We should still be in good shape, I mean Jarron Gilbert, Rashad Johnson, and Sean Smith could all be had in the 3rd, if they make it through these last few selections. Any of those three could have been drafted early in the 2nd and no one would say a word. There is still quite a lot of talent out there. Could end up being a very good trade actually.
Smith is gone. Jerry's tactics this year = FAIL.

M.O.T.H.
04-25-2009, 08:45 PM
Pitt does like Gilbert and Johnson. ugh.

M.O.T.H.
04-25-2009, 08:46 PM
Smith is gone. Jerry's tactics this year = FAIL.

I know he's gone...I just posted that. Rashad's a surer bet anyway...I'm holding out hope that he and Gilbert get in the 3rd.

M.O.T.H.
04-25-2009, 08:49 PM
According to what they said...we were probably sitting on Delmas, Chung, and maybe even Mcbath.

Im_a_Romosexual
04-25-2009, 08:50 PM
I don't like this Denver trade up.

M.O.T.H.
04-25-2009, 08:51 PM
Gilbert could certainly go here.

thule
04-25-2009, 08:52 PM
I don't have a problem with trading out...we were in no mans land...unless we wanted Gilbert. He was the only pick that woulda worked. Other guys I think we liked were Brace and Delmas who went off the board. I don't see anyone outside of Gilbert that we've missed out on. I'd actually argue Cody Brown going off the board was only a guy that I felt we actually might make us disappointed.

D-Unit
04-25-2009, 08:52 PM
Gilbert could certainly go here.
No way does Gilbert reach us. Jerry is an idiot.

LonghornsLegend
04-25-2009, 08:52 PM
I think we need to move up for Gilbert, screw waiting, we have Clevelands 3rd which is like 68? Let's get aggresive for a few guys left, Rashad, Gilbert, Duke, there are still some quality guys I like.


Hope this doesn't end up like last year where we are waiting around for every pick to be traded back.

Crimson79
04-25-2009, 08:53 PM
I think we just lost Gilbert to Denver.

DallCowby1
04-25-2009, 08:54 PM
Trading out of #51 shows that Dallas did do there homework. Players they had rated as 2nd rounders were gone.

They traded out and recieved and extra pick.

Why reach for a player?

I have no problem with the trade out. Looking forward to tomorrow.

D-Unit
04-25-2009, 08:54 PM
How the hell do we fit 12 more rookies on our roster?

Im_a_Romosexual
04-25-2009, 08:54 PM
:exhale: very "eh" day IMO

Crimson79
04-25-2009, 08:54 PM
Feel like I just dodged a bullet.

M.O.T.H.
04-25-2009, 08:54 PM
I think we need to move up for Gilbert, screw waiting, we have Clevelands 3rd which is like 68? Let's get aggresive for a few guys left, Rashad, Gilbert, Duke, there are still some quality guys I like.


Hope this doesn't end up like last year where we are waiting around for every pick to be traded back.

If he doesnt get taken here...he only has to last like 4 picks before us tomorrow. I really hope we take a long look at him tomorrow and land Rashad Johnson.

M.O.T.H.
04-25-2009, 08:55 PM
How the hell do we fit 12 more rookies on our roster?

We'll probably move around a lot tomorrow. Could end up with three, threes even.

D-Unit
04-25-2009, 08:56 PM
Trading out of #51 shows that Dallas did do there homework. Players they had rated as 2nd rounders were gone.

They traded out and recieved and extra pick.

Why reach for a player?

I have no problem with the trade out. Looking forward to tomorrow.
Huh? We lost out on Beatty, Smith, Loadholt, Moore and probably Gilbert. All of those guys could've helped.

An extra pick is useless. We should've used our picks to move up for someone.

D-Unit
04-25-2009, 08:56 PM
We'll probably move around a lot tomorrow. Could end up with three, threes even.
We don't even have room for 6 rookies.

M.O.T.H.
04-25-2009, 08:57 PM
Gilbert has to fall 4 picks...if they want him, he's theres most likely.

Paul
04-25-2009, 08:57 PM
How the hell do we fit 12 more rookies on our roster?

Mentioned it before, but I would like to see some trades that will get us some picks for 2010. 9-12 rookies would be a real overkill.

pocketaces
04-25-2009, 08:58 PM
We'll probably move around a lot tomorrow. Could end up with three, threes even.

I agree. We have the ammo to take anybody we want.

Crimson79
04-25-2009, 08:58 PM
We don't even have room for 6 rookies.

Chillax compadre...I bet we do quite a bit of moving around tomorrow. Probably end up with a few pics for next year's draft also.

M.O.T.H.
04-25-2009, 08:59 PM
We don't even have room for 6 rookies.

Not every drafted player makes the team...we're going to be fine. We have a lot of flexibility to work with. We'll just have to wait and see. Shouldnt be too critical until we finish this thing up. We still have a shot at Rashad Johnson and Jarron Gilbert...and a whole mess of talent.

pocketaces
04-25-2009, 09:05 PM
Not every drafted player makes the team...we're going to be fine. We have a lot of flexibility to work with. We'll just have to wait and see. Shouldnt be too critical until we finish this thing up. We still have a shot at Rashad Johnson and Jarron Gilbert...and a whole mess of talent.

And Duke, and D.J. Moore, and Jason Williams, and Brandon Tate ECT....

E-Man
04-25-2009, 09:10 PM
We don't even have room for 6 rookies.

Why not? The way I see it there are only about 35 players that we can say that will make the team for certain. 12 would be overkill, but 6 would have a real chance. There's a ton of room for a backup O-lineman. Safety isn't safe behind Sensabaugh, Hamlin, and Davis(for special teams purposes). Corner could use some love since Henry and Pac-man are gone. We've all talked about the depth at ILB, and even OLB could use a guy that will be a good backup once Ellis is gone. The only real untouchable spots are RB and tight end. There could be a draftee at any position tomorrow that has a chance to be a rotation player. Let's not go too much off on Jerry for what happened today. We knew that the Cowboys made their bed with the Williams trade, and now we're lying in it. This isn't that drastic a thing.

LonghornsLegend
04-25-2009, 09:11 PM
I still like Pegues and Emannuel Cook at Safety too, I'm gonna wait until the smoke clears and we see how things pan out...I think alot of us were pissed off last year and hated all the moving down, but we ended up with some steals in the process.


If we get Gilbert I won't care about the move down honestly, I'll take those 4th and 5th rounders and see what you get...There are still guys on the team who could get cut, Proctor is one, Ellis is one, Bowman is one, these are just options if we happen to grab an impact rookie.

DallCowby1
04-25-2009, 09:33 PM
Huh? We lost out on Beatty, Smith, Loadholt, Moore and probably Gilbert. All of those guys could've helped.

An extra pick is useless. We should've used our picks to move up for someone.

The Cowboys Draft Board said different.

We don't know yet if Jerry tried to move back into the 2nd. Press Conference coming.

Crimson79
04-25-2009, 09:36 PM
Can you guys be sure to post the notes from the press conference? Thanks...

pocketaces
04-25-2009, 09:42 PM
http://www.dallascowboys.com/multimedia/multimedia_center.cfm?id=DE9AF97D-C04F-5DE1-84DD75CC3FCB6AB4

Macarthur
04-25-2009, 09:49 PM
you know guys, mayock said earlier today that this is the worst draft in the last 10 years.

Paul
04-25-2009, 09:56 PM
From the press conference, it sounds like they are looking at this as a depth building draft. Which isn't exactly breaking news, but it looks like they are really looking for players who can be contributers on special teams. And apparently every player they were looking at 51 is still available right now.

Does anyone else have gut feeling that we won't be picking at 69, also?

Crimson79
04-25-2009, 10:20 PM
From the press conference, it sounds like they are looking at this as a depth building draft. Which isn't exactly breaking news, but it looks like they are really looking for players who can be contributers on special teams. And apparently every player they were looking at 51 is still available right now.

Does anyone else have gut feeling that we won't be picking at 69, also?

Overkill if Dallas trades down again. Don't see it happening.

Im_a_Romosexual
04-25-2009, 10:24 PM
I'd gladly trade down for future picks.

get some of Gilbert/Sidbury/Jason Williams and it will make my day

Crimson79
04-25-2009, 10:30 PM
I'd gladly trade down for future picks.

get some of Gilbert/Sidbury/Jason Williams and it will make my day

Yeah if we can trade down and get a 2nd rounder or 2 next year I am all for that.

DallCowby1
04-25-2009, 11:46 PM
From the press conference, it sounds like they are looking at this as a depth building draft. Which isn't exactly breaking news, but it looks like they are really looking for players who can be contributers on special teams. And apparently every player they were looking at 51 is still available right now.

Does anyone else have gut feeling that we won't be picking at 69, also?

As long as they draft players who can play a position. Special Teams is secondary.

I don't want projects and reaches like in '95! None of those picked panned out. This is where Jerry would be getting cute with his manuvers.

They have a chance to draft some players who can come in here a play. I believe in Ciskowski and his board after last years draft Especially the mid rd. picks (Choice and Scandrick).

Trading down again is always a possibilty based on the first 4 picks ahead of us.

I see a QB (McGee or Bomar) in the 4th rd.

Based on Jerry's comments I read at DC.com it does not look like OL & WR are target areas. Granted it could be smoke, but still I think we have a need at those positions.
Especially if Unger was a target at #51! So now all of a sudden there is no need now?

OG, Duke Robinson & WR, Brandon Tate

They have enough draft picks to roll the dice on Tate.

D-Unit
04-26-2009, 12:29 AM
I just have a bad feeling about tomorrow. Jerry's board scares me. If he didn't think there was anyone worth a late 2nd round pick on the board, then I'm terrified.

D-Unit
04-26-2009, 12:35 AM
Pretty sure I would've been pissed if we took Unger over Gilbert. So that's good.

Paul
04-26-2009, 09:03 AM
NFL and there timing is ass backwards(9am really?), but were just 4 picks away.

cdub11
04-26-2009, 09:09 AM
NFL and there timing is ass backwards(9am really?), but were just 4 picks away.

haha no joke, 3pm one day and 9am the next

LonghornsLegend
04-26-2009, 09:25 AM
OUCH....OUCH....OUCH....


**** my life

Crimson79
04-26-2009, 09:25 AM
Oh how I hate you Chicago.

Im_a_Romosexual
04-26-2009, 09:25 AM
noooooooooooooooooooooo

Paul
04-26-2009, 09:25 AM
Weak Chicago. Really Weak.

Crimson79
04-26-2009, 09:25 AM
That was just painful especially being the pick before.

M.O.T.H.
04-26-2009, 09:26 AM
We gotta go Johnson here now.

E-Man
04-26-2009, 09:27 AM
This might be a shocker...

UTPATS
04-26-2009, 09:27 AM
We gotta go Johnson here now.

I agree!!!

Crimson79
04-26-2009, 09:28 AM
I can dig...

Im_a_Romosexual
04-26-2009, 09:28 AM
yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LonghornsLegend
04-26-2009, 09:29 AM
OK, I can definately dig it :)

E-Man
04-26-2009, 09:29 AM
There's ya boy thule!

Paul
04-26-2009, 09:29 AM
LOL, nice. I know some here really love that one.

LonghornsLegend
04-26-2009, 09:30 AM
That's a very good 1st pick, he's a future starter and he can play a few diff spots for us...Rashad Johnson at 75?


12 picks today, WOOOOOOOO! :D

cdub11
04-26-2009, 09:31 AM
I can live with that pick

M.O.T.H.
04-26-2009, 09:31 AM
Love it. Now we really do need Rashad at 75. Hopefully, he's there.

UTPATS
04-26-2009, 09:32 AM
That's a very good 1st pick, he's a future starter and he can play a few diff spots for us...Rashad Johnson at 75?


12 picks today, WOOOOOOOO! :D

Hey, you cant hate that pick. Not the flashy pick, but a guy who will contribute from the get go on ST and end up playing quite a bit if he stays healthy his first year!

LonghornsLegend
04-26-2009, 09:38 AM
Jax and SF can both use a safety, so we have to watch here.

M.O.T.H.
04-26-2009, 09:39 AM
If one of them takes him, who knows where the hell we'll go next.

E-Man
04-26-2009, 09:40 AM
Williams gets a chance to be groomed into a good role player while offering a good special teams presence. I guess they wanted him all along, and didn't want to reach in the 2nd.

LonghornsLegend
04-26-2009, 09:41 AM
It should be pointed out Duke Robinson could be our pick as well, depending on how high we have him rated, I'm trying to think of who else is out there we could consider...Not a good spot for WR's or Corner's.

Paul
04-26-2009, 09:41 AM
Rashad or Duke. Come on!

D-Unit
04-26-2009, 09:42 AM
I think JAX might've taken Jason Williams. 4.49 40... Love adding speed on Defense. Was that the fastest time for a LB? Great coverage instincts. 46.5 TFL and 15 Sacks as a LINEBACKER. Love it.

Wouldn't mind Duke, Meredith or Rashad here.

Still stings that we didn't get Gilbert.

LonghornsLegend
04-26-2009, 09:42 AM
Williams gets a chance to be groomed into a good role player while offering a good special teams presence. I guess they wanted him all along, and didn't want to reach in the 2nd.

Yep, I am excited about him, teams were all over him before the draft, Thule gave us some good info about him a long time ago, sounds good to me...More players like this would be a great solid day.

LonghornsLegend
04-26-2009, 09:44 AM
DMN has a good wite-up on Jason Williams, wanted to share this since McShay's dumb ass just said he had him listed as a 7th rounder(why does he still get paid?):


Jason Williams didn't get an invitation to the combine, but his stock soared after he participated in Western Illinois' pro day. He's 6-1, 241 pounds and ran the 40 in 4.44 and 4.49 seconds.

NFL Draft Scout compares the stocky Williams, who played some strong safety in college but projects as a pass rusher, to the reigning Defensive Player of the Year.

JAMES HARRISON, Pittsburgh -- This is high praise for an unknown player, but the more film scouts watch on Williams, the more they will notice he has the "it" factor. With patient coaching and in the right system, he could turn into one of the better finds in this draft. He plays with excellent field vision and awareness. Williams demonstrates the instincts to quickly track down the ball. He has the change-of-direction agility and lateral movement to string plays wide and hits ballcarriers with force, driving with his legs to push the opponent back through the rush lane.

He was No. 84 on Goose's top 100. We'll have more from Williams after a conference call in a few minutes.



According to Goose this was the time he would come off the board, and you can't be mad at that comparison.

Crimson79
04-26-2009, 09:44 AM
Duke or Rashad here and I am a happy camper.

E-Man
04-26-2009, 09:50 AM
Jerry looks really happy right there.

UTPATS
04-26-2009, 09:52 AM
Underachieving OT....awesome!

Crimson79
04-26-2009, 09:52 AM
ummmmmmmmmm

leroyisgod
04-26-2009, 09:53 AM
Who is this Brewster kid?

E-Man
04-26-2009, 09:53 AM
Meh.......

M.O.T.H.
04-26-2009, 09:57 AM
He's a big aggressive guard. A Houck guard. Give be Duke, though.

Paul
04-26-2009, 09:58 AM
*sigh*

atleast they addressed OL. With what I don't know.

E-Man
04-26-2009, 09:59 AM
DMN has a good wite-up on Jason Williams, wanted to share this since McShay's dumb ass just said he had him listed as a 7th rounder(why does he still get paid?):






According to Goose this was the time he would come off the board, and you can't be mad at that comparison.

I don't watch ESPN unless there is a commercial on NFLN. Kiper and McShay act like the draft must bend to their board or something.:rolleyes: Mayock gets like that a little, but at least he's acknowledging that a multitude of guys can go somewhere. I used to hate Mayock, but he is like a god compared to those two. They need to get someone who isn't too into them self to replace one or both of those guys. I think I know the Wright guy.

But great article LL. I didn't know that Williams was a safety too. I guess that means his transition to the inside won't come as hard as expected. Wade must want this guy to be a Donnie Edwards type, and I hope that happens.

E-Man
04-26-2009, 10:01 AM
*sigh*

atleast they addressed OL. With what I don't know.

Hey man the guy wears glasses...........that's got to account for something. I wear glasses, and I've been known to be the sexiest man in the DFW area. Maybe they drafted him to compete with the sexy. I'm seriously trying hard to laugh at this pick since I liked Duke.

Crimson79
04-26-2009, 10:09 AM
I am curious to see when they start moving around.

E-Man
04-26-2009, 10:17 AM
Well let's think about Tate now. If he did test positive then that might be a dodged bullet. But dammit I wanted the guy. The Pats like to ruin the fun.

leroyisgod
04-26-2009, 10:27 AM
I would rather look at Tate with our 3rd pick in round 4 or in 5. There's already character issues there, plus he probably won't be ready to play this year. So taking a chance on a character guy that won't contribute this year isn't a priority to me.

leroyisgod
04-26-2009, 10:42 AM
he smokes marijuana..That's not a character issue, and the fool is gone anyways

Doing illegal drugs is a character issue in my eyes.

LonghornsLegend
04-26-2009, 10:44 AM
3rd was too early for us with Tate, the weed stuff we would have to answer questions about, he's not able to contribute right away and he'd be down as a 6th WR for awhile, 4th I would of been fine with, but NE needed a WR a little more and can wait on him a little bit.

E-Man
04-26-2009, 10:52 AM
I don't smoke weed, but I think it's no worse than smoking or drinking. The only problem is that it's illegal. Not the worst thing to do in the world though. The real problem with Tate would be how dumb he is to test positive at this time. Did he really think that there would be no test? How smart could the guy be? Oh well he's gone, and so are alot of people that we liked here. There are still plenty of opportunities to get some good players today.

Paul
04-26-2009, 10:57 AM
Rashad is gone now. ****

Go Cowboys
04-26-2009, 11:08 AM
Not sure that anyone cares, but I have just reached our 3rd round pick. I was busy yesterday and recorded the draft on DVR, I have been watching since about 1 AM this morning with a small nap in there.

I was surprised by the trade, but honestly was not very surprised by it, it was a classic Jerry Move, I have seen some of these moves and it was not too bad.

The Pick Jason Williams? I do not know very much about it other than he is from Western Illinois, Anyone want to fill me in.

Also I am a good hour and a half behind real time still so I apologize for the lateness of the post

M.O.T.H.
04-26-2009, 11:11 AM
Jason Williams is an insanely athletic inside linebacker. He is excellent in coverage and a very good pass rusher. He will need work but, he has first rate athleticism. Better even then Burnett. He fits right into KB's vacant spot but, has limitless potential. The perfect compliment for Bradie James in the future.

Paul
04-26-2009, 11:19 AM
McGee is not surprising. I got one pick right

leroyisgod
04-26-2009, 12:13 PM
then I take it you couldn't field an NFL roster, as almost everyone in the NFL smokes marijuana..and a good number of the draftees sell drugs (including some that are thought of as high character guys).

CAn you name those pot smokers that are high character guys?

Ward
04-26-2009, 01:10 PM
What are we doing in this draft... this year is looking like a huge waste. Who realistically is going to make this roster?

M.O.T.H.
04-26-2009, 01:12 PM
What are we doing in this draft... this year is looking like a huge waste. Who realistically is going to make this roster?

Only real question is if both Brandon Williams and Vic Butler make it. The rest will be on the roster.

Im_a_Romosexual
04-26-2009, 01:13 PM
I know quite a few guys in this draft that sell and consume drugs but are regarded as high character guys, but I don't want to put anyone's dirty laundry out there.
Simple fact is that Truly Great guys with no character issues are rare in the NFL and in the draft

maybe, but they're not dumb enough to test positive at the combine

DancingMonkey
04-26-2009, 01:39 PM
I pretty much hate the draft this year. All that excitement for the past 4 months.. is just laying dead on the floor.

Paul
04-26-2009, 05:28 PM
Looks like we're done. All the picks and trades are updated on the first page.

therock6000
04-26-2009, 08:36 PM
I pretty much hate the draft this year. All that excitement for the past 4 months.. is just laying dead on the floor.


QFT....................

Staubach12
04-26-2009, 10:01 PM
I don't post around here too much, but here's my analysis of the picks.

Jason Williams, LB, Western Illinois
I wasn't shocked, but I wasn't happy. Williams is an incredibly talented player, but so is Ellis. So is Anthony Spencer. Do we have the leeway here to be picking more OLBs? We had bigger needs, and I think we should have addressed that. All that being said, Williams is a good player and I'm sure he'll be successful. Our front-7 got better here.

Robert Brewster, OL, Ball St.
I liked this one, but once again, I thought we had bigger needs. However, he'll be a good player at guard or tackle with development. Good pick.

Stephen McGee, QB, Texas A&M
LOVED this pick. Great developmental prospect at a position we desperately need a long-term backup for. By the time Kitna retires, this kid will be ready IMO. Great pick.

Victor Butler, DE/OLB, Oregon ST
Eh, inexperienced, not too flashy, but he's a good ST player from what I hear. Once again, we had bigger needs. Not a fan.

Brandon Williams, DE/OLB, Texas Tech
I wanted to kill someone at this point. I was livid. Another pass rusher? With needs at safety and WR and G and DT and DE? I still don't understand this pick. Just a bad pick.

Deangelo Smith, CB, Cincinati
He's a tweener, which I like. He's going to be interesting to watch and see where exactly they put him. Right now, he's listed as a corner. Interesting pick, and I like it. He's talented.

Michael Hamlin, S, Clemson
THANK GOD! I thought we would never pick a safety. Fantastic value here. He may be our starter from week 1. Huge fan of this pick.

David Buehler, K, USC
I was confused by this. Folk is awesome. Yes, Buehler is better at kick-offs, but I still question this pick, especially ewith so many quality player left on the board.

Stephen Hodge, S/LB, TCU
ILB for us. I like the pick. He's our new future at ILB. With this pick, I think we officially gave up on Carp.

John Phillips, TE, Virginia
BPA I suppose. I like him as a blocker, and he can catch, but he's not doing anything once he has it.

Mike Mickens, CB, Cincinnati
Very fluid and loves to bait. I only saw him once, and I liked him. Didn't love him, but he's ok. I think he can develop nicely.

Manuel Johnson, WR, Oklahoma
I like him. Good team player. Solid all around. Not really the WR talent I was looking for. Not really too impressed with this pick.

Paul
04-26-2009, 10:03 PM
I don't post around here too much, but here's my analysis of the picks.

Jason Williams, LB, Western Illinois
I wasn't shocked, but I wasn't happy. Williams is an incredibly talented player, but so is Ellis. So is Anthony Spencer. Do we have the leeway here to be picking more OLBs? We had bigger needs, and I think we should have addressed that. All that being said, Williams is a good player and I'm sure he'll be successful. Our front-7 got better here.


He will not be a OLB on our D, he'll be a ILB. Kevin Burnett 2.0.

M.O.T.H.
04-26-2009, 10:10 PM
Come on Staubach we have been talking about Williams forever...he's an inside linebacker. Why is it that so many people did not know this? ugh.

and Stephen Hodge's making the team will be in question. He's not the future anything and he's not even a good ILB propsect. A ST player through and through who will probably have a hard time sticking on.

herniateddisc
04-26-2009, 10:13 PM
I will pray tonite Williams turns into Pat Willis. Maybe light a candle for the baby Jesus.