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Mr. Goosemahn
04-30-2009, 12:12 AM
I was thinking about the Wild-Cat offense earlier today and wanted to know who'd be a better fit to run it.

Would it be the Dolphins' recently drafted Pat White, or the Steelers' fifth round pick last year Dennis Dixon?

I know for a fact that both players are dual-threat QB's, and that Dixon slid in the draft because of his knee injury.

I didn't see much of either prospect during their college days, so I can't really evaluate them all that well.

For those of you who did watch them during their respective college tenures, who do you think is better as a Wild-Cat option, and why?

KCJ58
04-30-2009, 12:31 AM
Pat White

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PoopSandwich
04-30-2009, 12:34 AM
Mike Vick... :]

Gay Ork Wang
04-30-2009, 12:38 AM
does it really matter?

Cicero
04-30-2009, 12:40 AM
does it really matter?

For Madden, possibly.

Mr. Goosemahn
04-30-2009, 12:43 AM
does it really matter?

No, just wondering who'd run it better.

mqtirishfan
04-30-2009, 12:54 AM
Gotta figure it'd be Pat White, considering he's more of an athlete.

LookItsAlDavis
04-30-2009, 12:55 AM
Darren McFadden...he was the one who made it famous at Arkansas

PalmerToCJ
04-30-2009, 01:20 AM
Mike Vick... :]

Really though... That would be sick. Pending how hard he's trained in prison of course.

The Legend
04-30-2009, 03:02 AM
Michael Vick, Pat White, Darren McFadden, Vince Young, Josh Johnson, and Seneca Wallace

Mr. Hero
04-30-2009, 05:12 AM
Darren McFadden...he was the one who made it famous at Arkansas

This......

BRAVEHEART
04-30-2009, 05:20 AM
Pat is the better runner, Dennis is the (menace lol) better passer.

islandboy843
04-30-2009, 06:08 AM
Most black athletics QBs :/

BaLLiN
04-30-2009, 06:16 AM
Most black athletics QBs :/

Jordyzzzz Nelsonzzz

BmoreBlackByrdz
04-30-2009, 06:37 AM
How has no one said Troy Smith?? He's probably the best "quarterback" out of all of them.

RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES
04-30-2009, 06:48 AM
Flacco and Troy Smith.

Halsey
04-30-2009, 06:49 AM
This whole wildcat thing seems so overblown. It's putting a QB or RB in the shotgun and having them usually run and sometimes pass the ball. Whoopity doo! TEH REVOLUTIONARY! Yeah, it was called the 'Wing T' years ago. The wildcat is just a new spin on an offense that has come and gone for decades. Vince Young might be a better fit for it in the NFL than Pat White, but fans always get excited about new faces and Young has lost a lot of support in recent years.

Splat
04-30-2009, 07:58 AM
Tyler Thigpen FTW...

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senormysterioso
04-30-2009, 08:01 AM
Most black athletics QBs :/

How about Orlando Pace? Or Pat Williams? How about Shaq?

wicket
04-30-2009, 08:20 AM
I dont understand why teams would do more passing plays out of that wing T/wildcat formation. Therefore if I had to pick a wildcat qb it would be a guy like vince young, dennis dixon or troy smith. Tim Tebow would be a fun wildcat qb cuz he would bring even more diversity to the option play.
That being said, people are making a way to big deal about the wildcat. If i remember correctly most of last years top offenses didnt play a down of wildcat. When if becomes more of a thing teams will scheme against it and it will be shut down pretty easy. Imo it should be seen in the same light as reverses, split back schemes and flea flickers, its suited for occasional use but will not really transform football.

vikes_28
04-30-2009, 08:28 AM
Wild Cat usually ends up in fail.

brat316
04-30-2009, 09:13 AM
Mike Vick and LT.

Darren McFadden? did he even play Qb.

Hawk
04-30-2009, 09:28 AM
Most black athletics QBs :/

How about Orlando Pace? Or Pat Williams? How about Shaq?

Hmm. Didn't know Orlando Pace or any of those guys played QB, but it makes sense because he was a linemen, he'll be able to figure out where the ends are going to avoid the sack.

Bengalsrocket
04-30-2009, 09:32 AM
Mike Vick and LT.

Darren McFadden? did he even play Qb.

No... he was in Ronnie Brown's position. He's a RB who can throw.

Brent
04-30-2009, 10:39 AM
Dennis Dixon is not a run-first QB, he's always been a passing QB.

YAYareaRB
04-30-2009, 10:44 AM
Jared Lorenzen. He knows what the Defensive Tackles are thinking since he should be playing that.

brat316
04-30-2009, 11:49 AM
LT, he has prefect qb rating.

nobodyinparticular
04-30-2009, 12:49 PM
Hmm. Didn't know Orlando Pace or any of those guys played QB, but it makes sense because he was a linemen, he'll be able to figure out where the ends are going to avoid the sack.

This post is full of win!

Gay Ork Wang
04-30-2009, 12:51 PM
Jared Lorenzen. He knows what the Defensive Tackles are thinking since he should be playing that.
does it really matter? who can bring down such a beast

d34ng3l021
04-30-2009, 12:53 PM
Michael Vick. Had the Dolphins not drafted Pat White, a trade with the Falcons (maybe a 7th round pick) for Vick (depending on cap situations) might not have been a bad idea for the Dolphins. He would dominate in that formation.

PACKmanN
04-30-2009, 12:55 PM
Darren McFadden...he was the one who made it famous at Arkansas

Ahman Green says hi. He started this in 2000.

CC.SD
04-30-2009, 01:45 PM
LT, he has prefect qb rating.

It is odd that with all these RBs passing the ball that LT hasn't pulled up and gunned one in a while. This very offseason he claimed it was back in the playbook though, so who knows.

tjsunstein
04-30-2009, 01:49 PM
The Wild-Cat is gonna fizzle.

Pb&j
04-30-2009, 02:19 PM
Josh Cribbs. The Browns have had that package since 2006, they just didn't use it as much as the dolphins did last year.

Cribbs is so awesome.

GB12
04-30-2009, 03:38 PM
Michael Vick. Had the Dolphins not drafted Pat White, a trade with the Falcons (maybe a 7th round pick) for Vick (depending on cap situations) might not have been a bad idea for the Dolphins. He would dominate in that formation.
Or they could have just waited until you released him if they wanted him.

619
04-30-2009, 03:45 PM
Ahman Green says hi. He started this in 2000.

And I bet someone else started this before that too. :rolleyes:

'cuse-213
04-30-2009, 05:43 PM
My HS coach 2 years back signed onto Miami's staff, and supposedly gave the Wildcat its name. Wildcat is my schools logo. Little fun fact for you ;)

tjsunstein
04-30-2009, 06:15 PM
My HS coach 2 years back signed onto Miami's staff, and supposedly gave the Wildcat its name. Wildcat is my schools logo. Little fun fact for you ;)

Pics or it didn't happen.

MetSox17
04-30-2009, 06:20 PM
Give me Michael Vick. I don't care how many months he has been in jail, he is still head and shoulders a faster, stronger, and better passer than any guy being mentioned here.

'cuse-213
04-30-2009, 09:17 PM
Pics or it didn't happen.

Pics of what, lol.

Shane P. Hallam
04-30-2009, 09:20 PM
Your coach, holding your high school playbook, on Da U's campus, next to Graig Cooper, with an audio clip of Bill Parcells and toonster verifying this rumor.

scottyboy
04-30-2009, 09:22 PM
The wildcat: giving Jabu Lovelace hope to make it in the NFL

'cuse-213
04-30-2009, 09:26 PM
Your coach, holding your high school playbook, on Da U's campus, next to Graig Cooper, with an audio clip of Bill Parcells and toonster verifying this rumor.

OK OK, I made the whole thing up :(

Malaka
04-30-2009, 09:37 PM
I think a lot of players can make the case as a Wildcat QB...

Matt Jones
Hines Ward
'twan Randle-El
etc.

My picks for the best fit in the Wild-cat would be Pat White and Antwan Randle-El, I think they'd give you the most athleticism and solid passing in the group.

In my opinion though, the Wildcat is a gimmick and will be out of the league within the next year or so...

brat316
04-30-2009, 09:58 PM
I thought the same about the Spread formation, but the Patriots are making it work and spreading it.

Malaka
04-30-2009, 10:03 PM
I thought the same about the Spread formation, but the Patriots are making it work and spreading it.

The spread is a lot different than the wildcat... the spread doesn't require QBs lining up at receiver, double/triple options, and having your QB get the stuffing knocked out of him.

dolphinfan2k5
04-30-2009, 10:13 PM
The spread is a lot different than the wildcat... the spread doesn't require QBs lining up at receiver, double/triple options, and having your QB get the stuffing knocked out of him.

Well 2/3 won't be happening this year, for the Fins at least. I'm not sure how double/triple options is a bad thing.

Malaka
04-30-2009, 10:17 PM
Well 2/3 won't be happening this year, for the Fins at least. I'm not sure how double/triple options is a bad thing.

If the defense is prepared for the option... that play can go for a huuuuge loss.

TitanHope
04-30-2009, 10:33 PM
Vince Young FTW! Hahahahahahahaha...

*laughter shifts into unconsolable weeping*

Staubach12
04-30-2009, 10:38 PM
Dennis Dixon can play QB in the NFL. Pat White cannot.

As far as Wildcat QB... I'm not really sure I care.

dolphinfan2k5
05-01-2009, 03:00 AM
If the defense is prepared for the option... that play can go for a huuuuge loss.

What are you meaning by option? Like the traditional college option? Cause that certainly isn't a necessity of the wildcat, pretty sure the Dolphins didn't run an option at all last year in that sense, although I think we ran a fake one once.

LonghornsLegend
05-01-2009, 04:38 AM
What are you meaning by option? Like the traditional college option? Cause that certainly isn't a necessity of the wildcat, pretty sure the Dolphins didn't run an option at all last year in that sense, although I think we ran a fake one once.

Every play is an 'option' because it started with Ricky Williams going full speed in motion to the right side and Ronnie Brown had the 'option' to hand it off to Ricky as he went across or pull it out and run to the left, or pass...Every one of those plays started out with an option.

Malaka
05-01-2009, 08:51 AM
Every play is an 'option' because it started with Ricky Williams going full speed in motion to the right side and Ronnie Brown had the 'option' to hand it off to Ricky as he went across or pull it out and run to the left, or pass...Every one of those plays started out with an option.

To answer the other postersm previous question...

This.

YAYareaRB
05-01-2009, 12:07 PM
Something is missing for Michael Robinson. It blows my mind how he isn't good at the Wildcat. We could also try out Arnaz Battle there.

BBIB
05-01-2009, 07:05 PM
I dont understand why teams would do more passing plays out of that wing T/wildcat formation. Therefore if I had to pick a wildcat qb it would be a guy like vince young, dennis dixon or troy smith. Tim Tebow would be a fun wildcat qb cuz he would bring even more diversity to the option play.
That being said, people are making a way to big deal about the wildcat. If i remember correctly most of last years top offenses didnt play a down of wildcat. When if becomes more of a thing teams will scheme against it and it will be shut down pretty easy. Imo it should be seen in the same light as reverses, split back schemes and flea flickers, its suited for occasional use but will not really transform football.

Of course most teams didn't use it, that's because it was just introduced last year.

The things you all say about the Wildcat are probably the same things people assumed about the Shotgun offense when it was first introduced.


What is so limiting about the Wildcat offense that makes it impossible to have prolonged success with the right personnel?

Vox Populi
05-01-2009, 08:51 PM
Pat White without a doubt. Not to take away from what Dixon did because he was a serious Heisman contender before his knee injury, but he wasn't the same kind of play maker that White was for his entire career with the Mountaineers.

I think Saneca Wallace can probably run the Wild-Cat better than Dixon too, and Brad Smith as well. Smith was nearly the same prospect that White was. He would have been drafted much higher if the Wild-Cat was being used in the NFL back in his year.

yodabear
05-01-2009, 09:08 PM
Marc Bulger

Brent
05-01-2009, 09:09 PM
*laughter shifts into unconsolable weeping*
It's okay; I sympathize with you. Just know that he'll always be a solid back-up to Collins/your future 1st round QB.

dolphinfan2k5
05-01-2009, 09:58 PM
Every play is an 'option' because it started with Ricky Williams going full speed in motion to the right side and Ronnie Brown had the 'option' to hand it off to Ricky as he went across or pull it out and run to the left, or pass...Every one of those plays started out with an option.

Sometimes Ronnie had the option, but most of the time, that play is determined pre-snap, like play action. Even with the option, I hardly see how that would cause it to go for "huuuge loss". And that definitely isn't a triple option.