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devinhester=R.O.Y 2006
05-02-2009, 12:54 PM
I am going to be putting together a compilation thread of all the FBS and FCS conferences of quarterbacks and running backs. I have only taken 1 QB and 1 RB from each school as of now, but plan to add them after other give some input and advice. I would love some feedback and criticism. These rankings are to reflect there potential as an NFL prospect regardless of class.

Big 12 QB Rankings
1. Sam Bradford, Oklahoma, Junior, 6'4/218
2. Colt McCoy, Texas, Senior, 6'3/210
3. Jerrod Johnson, Texas A&M, Junior, 6'5/229
4. Robert Griffin, Baylor, Sophomore, 6'3/200
5. Blaine Gabbert, Sophomore, Missouri, 6'5/235
6. Taylor Potts, Texas Tech, Junior, 6'5/215
7. Zac Robinson, Oklahoma State, Senior, 6'3/218
8. Todd Reesing, Kansas, Senior, 5'11/200
9. Austen Arnaud, Iowa State, Junior, 6'3/220
10. Carson Coffman, Kansas State, Junior, 6'3/212
11. Zac Lee, Nebraska, Junior, 6'2/210
12. Cody Hawkins, Colorado, Junior, 5'11/190


Big 12 RB Rankings
1. DeMarco Murray, Oklahoma, Junior, 6’1/205
2. Kendall Hunter, Oklahoma State, Junior, 5'8/190
3. Rodney Stewart, Colorado, Sophomre, 5’6/175
4. Derrick Washington, Missouri, Junior, 5'11/225
5. Lamarck Brown, Kansas State, Junior, 6'3/225
6. Vondrell McGee, Texas, Junior, 5'10/205
7. Baron Batch, Texas Tech, Junior, 5'11/200
8. Jake Sharp, Kansas, Senior, 5'10/190
9. Roy Helu, Nebraska, Junior, 6'0/215
10. Cyrus Gray, Texas A&M, Sophomore, 5'10/188
11. Alexander Robinson, Iowa State, Junior, 5'10/184
12. Jay Finley, Baylor, Junior, 5'11/205

Brent
05-02-2009, 02:57 PM
The love for Jerrod is applauded.

Menardo75
05-02-2009, 02:59 PM
I think Potts might be right under McCoy and Bradford by years end he has the most NFL potential of any of the TT QB's. Also wouldn't surprise me to see Scott rise above Chris Brown, but Brown at this point is the most complete back in the big 12 nice list.

LonghornsLegend
05-02-2009, 03:31 PM
Ummm what has Darrell Scott done to be ranked so high other then be hyped up by Rivals? Where is Demarco Murray?

marshallb
05-02-2009, 03:39 PM
Ummm what has Darrell Scott done to be ranked so high other then be hyped up by Rivals? Where is Demarco Murray?

I have only taken 1 QB and 1 RB from each school as of now
^^^^^^^^^^ from the original post.

LonghornsLegend
05-02-2009, 03:49 PM
Oh ok, in that case then I'd list Murry and take Chris Brown off.

jth1331
05-02-2009, 04:07 PM
Demarco is the best back in the Big 12.
And then Chris Brown would be #2 IMO. Big 12 is sort of weak at RB lol.

And Scott has done nothing to deserve that #2 ranking other than get hyped up.

T-RICH49
05-02-2009, 04:20 PM
Jake Sharp is better then the 12th best RB in the Big 12

Brent
05-02-2009, 04:50 PM
Kendall Hunter should be much higher as well, definitely in the top 4.

holt_bruce81
05-02-2009, 06:36 PM
In my opinion, Robert Griffin is the 3rd best QB in the Big 12.

Race for the Heisman
05-02-2009, 07:55 PM
A few things:

Zac Robinson: made by his offense. Very limited NFL potential in my mind.

Todd Reesing: should be higher if he had any interest in football beyond college, but it seems he doesn't.

Kendall Hunter: at the very least in the top half, if not higher.

RealityCheck
05-02-2009, 08:10 PM
2010, not 2009 :)

BaLLiN
05-02-2009, 08:30 PM
didnt Darrell Scott get beat out by a lower ranked player in the same class as him?

LonghornsLegend
05-02-2009, 08:36 PM
didnt Darrell Scott get beat out by a lower ranked player in the same class as him?

Rodney Stewart, the lowly recruited 2 star recruit, and was out performed by him all year also...Scott just didn't look very motivated, that and thought he was going to be handed a job outright and it never happened.

Texas Homer
05-02-2009, 08:54 PM
Maybe not this season right away, but watch out for Texas RB Soph. Cody "Waller Thunder" Johnson.

He might have won the RB job for Texas outright in the spring if he had not injured his hamstring.

Johnson is a 5-11 255 power RB. He ran for 12 TD's last season.

RealityCheck
05-02-2009, 08:58 PM
Wait, where's DeMarco Murray?

the decider13
05-02-2009, 09:18 PM
Kendall Hunter should be much higher as well, definitely in the top 4.

Agreed...Hunter is a stud. As for Murray, he is OU's top back. To be fair, Murray/Brown are probably the top 2 backs in the Big 12, but if you gotta take one, gotta be Murray.

BPhilb
05-02-2009, 10:01 PM
I agree with your list for the most part. I believe Blaine Gabbert will be up for a top 3 pick in a couple of years. I thinked he is ranked accordingly given he hasn't played any meaningful snaps at this point, but from a prospect perspective the kid has everything you look for in a QB with an arm that will rival Matt Stafford's.

Matthew Jones
05-02-2009, 11:04 PM
I'd probably put Zach Robinson #3 for now at QB but other than that this looks pretty good.

jth1331
05-03-2009, 12:59 AM
2010, not 2009 :)

Incorrect, these are the rankings for the 2009 College Football Season.

RedVision
05-03-2009, 04:39 PM
Sharp should be about 6th on that list.

khorn
05-04-2009, 12:37 AM
Hunter should be a top 3 rb in the Big 12, he's right up there with the OU duo. He would've been recruited much more heavily if he had not gotten hurt in high school. Also I don't know how you can put Darrell Scott that high considering he's yet to show a flash of brilliance.

As far as the QB's I dont know how you put Johnson ahead of Griffin, same type of player put Griffin looks to be the better prospect. Agreed, Gabbert should end up being a good player and may develop into a high draft pick but lets hold off on the Matt Stafford comparisons.

JHG722
05-04-2009, 12:56 AM
Kendall Hunter should be much higher as well, definitely in the top 4.

Yeah, I dont know the Big 12 that well, but I thought he was a top RB.

cdub11
05-04-2009, 03:34 AM
Kendall Hunter should be much higher, probably #3 behind Murray and Brown from ou

BigBanger
05-04-2009, 06:19 AM
Zac Robinson is utter garbage. He has no arm strength. Can't make any kind of reads and he's in a system that produces zero NFL development. Not to mention, he stares down Dez Bryant 15 times a game. Simple reads, simple throws. Griffen is ten times the player he is, and I'm not sure if he's a QB at the next level. He would #2 on this list.

Josh Freeman would have been head and shoulders the top QB in this group if he stayed and he'll be a bust.

jth1331
05-04-2009, 09:36 AM
Josh Freeman would have been head and shoulders the top QB in this group if he stayed and he'll be a bust.

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Ozzy
05-04-2009, 03:56 PM
Big 12 QB Rankings
1. Sam Bradford, Oklahoma, Junior, 6'4/218
2. Colt McCoy, Texas, Senior, 6'3/210
3. Jerrod Johnson, Texas A&M, Junior, 6'5/229
4. Zac Robinson, Oklahoma State, Senior, 6'3/218
5. Robert Griffin, Baylor, Sophomore, 6'3/200
6. Blaine Gabbert, Sophomore, Missouri, 6'5/235
7. Taylor Potts, Texas Tech, Junior, 6'5/215
8. Austen Arnaud, Iowa State, Junior, 6'3/220
9. Carson Coffman, Kansas State, Junior, 6'3/212
10. Zac Lee, Nebraska, Junior, 6'2/210
11. Todd Reesing, Kansas, Senior, 5'11/200
12. Cody Hawkins, Colorado, Junior, 5'11/190

Big 12 RB Rankings
1. Chris Brown, Oklahoma, Senior, 5'11/210
2. Darrell Scott, Colorado, Sophomore, 6'1/200
3. Derrick Washington, Missouri, Junior, 5'11/225
4. Lamarck Brown, Kansas State, Junior, 6'3/225
5. Vondrell McGee, Texas, Junior, 5'10/205
6. Baron Batch, Texas Tech, Junior, 5'11/200
7. Roy Helu, Nebraska, Junior, 6'0/215
8. Cyrus Gray, Texas A&M, Sophomore, 5'10/188
9. Alexander Robinson, Iowa State, Junior, 5'10/184
10. Jay Finley, Baylor, Junior, 5'11/205
11. Kendall Hunter, Oklahoma State, Junior, 5'8/190
12. Jake Sharp, Kansas, Senior, 5'10/190



Hawkins and Reesing are way to low in my book, and half of those QBs I have never seen play before. What are you basing it off of there high school or JUCO play? Reesing and what he has done for Kansas football, he will get a spot on a team to play on Sundays, too smart not too.

Shocked you do not have Castille on this list from Nebraska, he is a monster and had such a great bowl game. He should easily be 4th on the list. Hunter is by far way too low, much too productive and hard to stop as a back. Washington is damn talented on Missouri, but be interesting to see if it was just yardage because people were worried about the passing game and Coffman in the middle.

America
05-04-2009, 03:59 PM
Vondrell McGee isn't very good, might not even be best on the team. Cody Johnson could be our go to guy this year.

cdub11
05-04-2009, 04:06 PM
Vondrell McGee isn't very good, might not even be best on the team. Cody Johnson could be our go to guy this year.

Cody will get the short yardage carries but I think Fozzy will get a lot as well... should be another year of RB by committee... I heard the coaches like Tre Newton a lot this spring... Cant wait to see what Chris Whaley does

Ozzy
05-04-2009, 04:07 PM
I agree, McGee is very so so.... Foswhitt Whittaker should be the man for them this year. Johnson is just a positional star on short yardage, not skilled enough otherwise.

BPhilb
05-04-2009, 04:08 PM
Hawkins and Reesing are way to low in my book, and half of those QBs I have never seen play before. What are you basing it off of there high school or JUCO play? Reesing and what he has done for Kansas football, he will get a spot on a team to play on Sundays, too smart not too.

Shocked you do not have Castille on this list from Nebraska, he is a monster and had such a great bowl game. He should easily be 4th on the list. Hunter is by far way too low, much too productive and hard to stop as a back. Washington is damn talented on Missouri, but be interesting to see if it was just yardage because people were worried about the passing game and Coffman in the middle.


I think you should look at Chase Daniel as your case study for Reesing. He's just not ready physically to compete at the NFL level which is what this list is comprised of. If you are talking just college potential than Reesing has a case for the number 3 spot. As far as Hawkins, based on what he has shown to this point I don't see how you could rank him any higher. He has shown nothing but poor decision making on the field and as and NFL talent he has shown nothing. He may be better this year if Colorado is healthy and the supporting cast grows but for a preseason list I wouldn't rank him any higher.

Ozzy
05-04-2009, 04:11 PM
I think you should look at Chase Daniel as your case study for Reesing. He's just not ready physically to compete at the NFL level which is what this list is comprised of. If you are talking just college potential than Reesing has a case for the number 3 spot.I think Reesing is a good athlete, he runs much better than Daniel ever did. Daniel is a fat short quarterback, Reesing is a short quarterback but he is not fat or slow. He can run a team and move in the pocket, make throws on the run. Reesing has a much better shot at making a NFL team than Daniel in my opinion. Daniel was just a bunch of hype, but once you saw him play, it was a joke because he did nothing but throw screens to receivers.

America
05-04-2009, 04:12 PM
Cody will get the short yardage carries but I think Fozzy will get a lot as well... should be another year of RB by committee... I heard the coaches like Tre Newton a lot this spring... Cant wait to see what Chris Whaley does

Fozzy keeps having those hamstring problems. He's our most electric back, but he can't get on the field. I don't see Newton ever getting himself atop the depth chart. I heard Johnson wasn't his usual lazy self this offseason and slimmed down. I hope we don't have this committee approach for too long. Whaley has a chance to be the guy. I'm praying for Lache to come to UT, or even the next year if we got Malcolm Brown or Aaron Greene.

cdub11
05-04-2009, 04:21 PM
Fozzy keeps having those hamstring problems. He's our most electric back, but he can't get on the field. I don't see Newton ever getting himself atop the depth chart. I heard Johnson wasn't his usual lazy self this offseason and slimmed down. I hope we don't have this committee approach for too long. Whaley has a chance to be the guy. I'm praying for Lache to come to UT, or even the next year if we got Malcolm Brown or Aaron Greene.

I dont see Newton ever getting to the top of the depth chart either but I could see him getting a few carries in... There are some really good RBs in the 2011 class, Brown and Greene are the best and Bradley Marquez isnt too far behind

etk
05-04-2009, 05:19 PM
Zac Robinson is utter garbage. He has no arm strength. Can't make any kind of reads and he's in a system that produces zero NFL development. Not to mention, he stares down Dez Bryant 15 times a game. Simple reads, simple throws. Griffen is ten times the player he is, and I'm not sure if he's a QB at the next level. He would #2 on this list.

Josh Freeman would have been head and shoulders the top QB in this group if he stayed and he'll be a bust.

Agree with this post. All of it.

I'm not big on Chris Brown. When it was him, Patrick and Murray he was clearly the weakest of the 3. He's not impressive physically. Murray would be #1 for me.

America
05-06-2009, 01:07 PM
I dont see Newton ever getting to the top of the depth chart either but I could see him getting a few carries in... There are some really good RBs in the 2011 class, Brown and Greene are the best and Bradley Marquez isnt too far behind

Marquez and Greene both give us the homerun threat we lack, and that we want to get with Lache. I think Brown obviously has a chance to come in and be the next Cedric Benson. Great size and he hits the hole hard.

I'll be watching very closely to see how Whaley performs. I never understood why we took him over Christine Michael.

devinhester=R.O.Y 2006
05-06-2009, 01:43 PM
I have updated the rankings to try and reflect the opinion of the posters who have replies.

LonghornsLegend
05-09-2009, 01:59 PM
I have updated the rankings to try and reflect the opinion of the posters who have replies.

Then why is there still no Demarco Murray, and why is Chris Brown and Darrell Scott still your top two RB's?

Texas Homer
05-09-2009, 03:48 PM
I personally think Cody Johnson is Texas best current RB, but I think Vondrell McGee might get the starting RB job.

YAYareaRB
05-10-2009, 12:11 PM
Roy Helu should be higher. He's gonna explode on the Big 12 this season.

devinhester=R.O.Y 2006
05-11-2009, 04:20 PM
Updated these again. Took off Chris Brown and Darrell Scott, and inserted DeMarco Murray and Rodney Stewart

Crimson79
05-11-2009, 05:01 PM
You said you are only taking 1 RB from a team I understand, but Chris Brown is probably top 3 RB in the conference.

Race for the Heisman
05-11-2009, 10:36 PM
Is Rodney Stewart really that small? Because honestly I've liked what I've seen of Derrick Washington and if Stewart is, in actuality, 5' 6" and a buck-seventy five, I don't see how Washington isn't rated over him or how Stewart cracks the top five unless the rest are garbage, which I don't think they are.

BufFan71
06-20-2009, 07:35 PM
Is Rodney Stewart really that small? Because honestly I've liked what I've seen of Derrick Washington and if Stewart is, in actuality, 5' 6" and a buck-seventy five, I don't see how Washington isn't rated over him or how Stewart cracks the top five unless the rest are garbage, which I don't think they are.

hes prob a good 5'8 180lbs...plus he was only a true freshmen
but hes incredibly quick and fast


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but hes built pretty thick for how small he is