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bearsfan_51
05-03-2009, 11:31 AM
I haven't seen anything like this up yet, so it's time to get the party started.

Please keep the thread to starting positions (returners, kickers/punters, slot receivers/nickel corners count)

Try to base this on competitions that are confirmed by the team, or at least within the realm of logic. Nobody cares what players you think should be benched, stick to players you think have a high likelyhood of being benched

I'll start with my....

Chicago Bears

2nd receiver
-Earl Bennett, 2nd year, 70th pick (2008)
-Juaquin Iglesias, 1st year, 99th pick (2009)

Slot Receiver
-Rashied Davis, 5th year, 39 receptions (2008)
-Johnny Knox, 1st year, 140th pick (2009)
See two other receivers above

Right Tackle
-Chris Williams, 2nd year, 14th pick (2008)
-Kevin Shaffer, 7th year, 86 career starts

Nose Tackle
-Anthony Adams, 7th year, 48 career starts
-Marcus Harrison, 2nd year, 28 tackles/2 sacks (2008)

Strongside Linebacker
-Hunter Hillenmeyer, 6th year, 56 career starts
-Nick Roach, 3rd year, 9 starts (2008)
-Marcus Freeman, 1st year, 154th pick (2009)

2nd Cornerback
-Nathan Vasher, 5th year, Pro Bowl (2005), 18 career interceptions
-Corey Graham, 3rd year, 91 tackles (2008)
-DJ Moore, 1st year, 119th pick (2009)

Free Safety
-Josh Bullocks, 4th year, 49 career starts
-Craig Steltz, 2nd year, 120th pick, 18 tackels/1 int. (2008)

CC.SD
05-03-2009, 11:34 AM
WILB: Kevin Burnett v. Tim Dobbins v. Matt Wilhelm: Coverage linbacker signed from Dallas to hopefully start, versus a 2 down thumper and a mentally disabled Buckeye.

SS: Clinton Hart v. Paul Oliver : Arena league veteran (and caliber) scrub v. Supplemental draft pick with supposedly high ceiling.

OG: Kyan Forney v. Louis Vasquez: Run blocker who hasn't seen the field since being a Pro Bowl alternate w/ ATL v. 6'5 330 extremely strong beast, coming out of Texas Tech's system.

WR3: Buster Davis v. Legedu Naanee: Speedy fragile former 1st rounder v. Gritty clutch TE/WR Tweener.

Malaka
05-03-2009, 11:39 AM
#1 WR and #2 WR
Steve Smith 3rd year slot man
Domenik Hixon Explosive Wide Out/returnman, who can get separation but can he catch consistently?
Hakeem Nicks 29. Overall Pick

UT
Fred Robbins 9 year veteran, who has been the best pass rushing DT on the Giants for the last few years.
Barry Cofield 4 year pro whose has been productive since his rookie year in Big Blue
Rocky Bernard recently acquired FA DT from Seattle
Jay Alford pass rushing specialist DT, 3rd year pro.

NT
Chris Canty Recently acquired 3-4 DE FA from Dallas might make more of an impact in a new scheme.
Fred Robbins

SAM
Danny Clark Veteran JAG who is solid all-around
Bryan Kehl 2nd year pro who played well in limited tim last year
Clint Sintim 2nd Round pick

bearsfan_51
05-03-2009, 11:40 AM
Try to provide some information on the players, since the majority of NFL fans aren't going to know much (or anything) about them.

eaglesalltheway
05-03-2009, 11:45 AM
Eagles:

Center:
Incoming starter:Jamaal Jackson
Challenger: Nick Cole

LE:
Incoming starter: Juqua Parker
Challenger: Victor Abiamiri

WLB: Incoming starter: Akeem Jordan
Challenger: Omar Gaither

FS: Leader (as of now): Quentin Demps
Challenger: Sean Jones

Center isn't confirmed by the team publicly to my knowledge, but Cole played well enough last year that there should be a battle going on there. Both are huge OLinemen, and Cole is a little quicker and more powerful than Jackson

LE is confirmed from the team, and that is close right now, but Victor Abiamiri will end up winning that battle. Parker is more of a pass ush guy, but is good against the run and is getting up there in age, Abiamiri is a thrid year player who cam on strong last season.

WLB isn't confirmed by the team, but there are two players with starting experience there who are both about the same in terms of being a calibur NFL LB. Both have similar skill sets, though Gaither is more of a thumper, and Jordan is a little rangier.

FS is confirmed and it is with the absence of Dawk, we have two new guys in there. The team says Demps is leading right now, but that is because Sean Jones is more of a SS and I think its more like the team feels more comfortable with Demps as the FS than Jones as the SS.

Brent
05-03-2009, 11:49 AM
49ers

Quarterback
-Shaun Hill, 8th year, 7-3 record
-Alex Smith, 5th year, missed all of last year with injury

Wide Reciever
-Josh Morgan, 2nd year, 20rec. 319yds. 3TDs.
-Michael Crabtree, 10th overall pick
-Jason Hill, 3rd year, 30rec. 317yds. 2 TDs.

For WR, it's about who's going to start opposite Issac Bruce. Morgan is likely going to win that but it depends on how much Crabs can pick up and show during TC.

The Dynasty
05-03-2009, 11:50 AM
For the Vikings:

RT:
Ryan Cook and Phil Loadholt

C:
John Sullivan and Ryan Cook

QB:
Tarvaris Jackson and Sage Rosenfels

WR2:
Sidney Rice and Percy Harvin

Thats all I can really think of at the moment.

DoughBoy
05-03-2009, 12:04 PM
Titans-
I honestly couldnt tell you which recivers will be starting but my guess
1.Justin Gage
2.Kenny Britt
Slot-Nate Washington
4.Lavelle Hawkins
5.Dominque Edison
6.Dudley Guice or Paul Williams or Chris Davis

OG- Leroy Harris vs Eugene Amano (LeRoy is a very talented run blocker and while Amano is solid he isnt anything to write home about.)

I dont see any changes to the Defense, maybe Jacob Ford starts ahead of Jevon Kearse but we use a rotation so it really doesnt matter.

marshallb
05-03-2009, 12:16 PM
Vikings:

QB
Sage Rosenfels (2009 trade w/ Texans- 9th year- 79.5 QB rating 1,431 yds., 6 TD, 10 INT in 08)
Tarvaris Jackson (2006 2nd round pick- 4th year- 95.4 QB rating 1,056 yds. 9 TD 2 INT in 08)

RT
Ryan Cook (2006 2nd round pick-worst RT in the NFL)
Phil Loadholt (2009 2nd round pick)

nickel CB
Charles Gordon (2006 UDFA- 4th year- 22 tackles 1 INT in 8 games in 08(ankle)- 2008 NB)
Benny Sapp (2008 FA signing from Chiefs- 6th year- 22 tackles 2 INT in 08)
Karl Paymah (2009 FA signing from Broncos- 5th year- 39 tackles 1 INT in 08)
Asher Allen (2009 3rd round pick)

#2 WR
Sidney Rice (2007 2nd round pick- 3rd year- 15 catches 141 yds. 4 TD- knee injury)
Bobby Wade (2007 FA- 7th year- 53 catches 645 yds. 2 TD- much better in slot)

LDE more off of personal opinion
Ray Edwards (2006 4th round pick- 4th year- 54 tackles 5 sacks in 08- starter in 08)
Brian Robison (2007 4th round pick- 3rd year- 14 tackles 2.5 sacks in 08- used more of as a pass rush specialist)

ccB
05-03-2009, 12:22 PM
Baltimore Ravens:

ILB:

Tavares Gooden
Jason Phillips
Prescott Burgess

None of these guys have proven anything at the pro level. Gooden was injured after being drafted in the 3rd round last year, Burgess is coming off the practice squad and isn't even a lock to make the team and Jason Phillips is a fifth round pick from this year. When leaving the Ravens this offseason Bart Scott stated he thinks Prescott will be the one to step in for us, when asked the same question Ray Lewis said he thinks Gooden will be the starter. I think Gooden has the edge in this race just based on where he was drafted at.

RT:

Willie Anderson
Michael Oher

I think Willie Anderson takes this to start the year but I really don't see him holding on to it for the entire season, if he doesn't stay healthy Oher will come in and snatch this position and never let go.

RG:

Marshall Yanda
Chris Chester

This may not be much of a battle but Yanda missed the majority of last year and Chris Chester proved that he was not an absolute bust with the playing time he was given. But as long as Yanda stays healthy I think the job is his.

#3 & #4 WR:

Demetrius Williams
Marcus Smith
Justin Harper
Eron Riley
Yamon Figurs

Demetrius is a lock for the #3 spot if he can stay healthy, which is never guaranteed since the guy has been an injury risk at every level. If he holds on to the #3 spot, 2nd year WR Marcus Smith will probably be in the lead for the #4 spot on the depth chart but he didn't exactly show much, if anything in his rookie campaign. Justin Harper is currently on the PS but with our extreme lack of depth at WR he could conceivably break onto the team. Yamon Figurs has shown almost 0 WR ability. Eron Riley is a UDFA out of Duke who has all the physical attributes to be an NFL WR (6'3 200 lbs, sub 4.4 40) has an outside shot at making the team but he's going to impress big time in camp. I think he is an off brand version of Darrius Heyward Bey. I wouldn't be surprised to see us bring a WR in that isn't currently on the roster.

I am probably forgetting a battle somewhere else but these are the ones that stick out to me at the moment.

Strongside
05-03-2009, 12:29 PM
Steelers

2nd QB
Dennis Dixon
Charlie Batch

RG
Darnell Stapleton
Kraig Urbik

2nd Corner
William Gay
Deshea Townsend
Keenan Lewis
Keiwan Ratliff

RS
Mewelde Moore
Stefan Logan
Joe Burnett
Mike Wallace

LS
Greg Warren
Mark Estemyer

3rd/4th WR
Limas Sweed
Shaun McDonald
Mike Wallace

FB (If Summers is placed at FB)
Frank Summers
Carey Davis

abaddon41_80
05-03-2009, 12:43 PM
More 49ers,

Left Defensive End
- Kentwan Balmer, 2nd year; 1st round pick, almost no experience, hasn't played well in little playing time
- Ray McDonald, 3rd year; some starting experience, up and down player that makes a play but then disappears for a handful
- Demetric Evans, 8th year; played well, especially against the run, probably the favorite to win the job
- Isaac Sopoaga, 6th year; solid player that has never lived up to his potential, super strong with surprising quickness
- Rick Jean-Francois, Rookie; Tons of talent but will have to fight to even make the team, highly unlikely that he will win the job
- Pannel Egboh, Rookie; UDFA, probably won't even make the team, listing him just in case

Nose Tackle
- Aubrayo Franklin, 7th year; played well after Nolan was fired last year, odds-on favorite
- Isaac Sopoaga, 6th year; the coaching staff wants to see if he can play NT, more tools than Franklin but hasn't lived up to them
- Kentwan Balmer, 2nd year; 1st round pick, coaching staff also wants to try him out at NT
- Khalif Mitchell, Rookie; UDFA, playing NT at mini-camp, none of the other candidates are great so he could surprise and win the job based on his strength and athleticism

#2 CB
- Walt Harris, 14th year; old, slow, the favorite to win the job
- Tarell Brown, 3rd year; if someone other than Harris wins the job it will most likely me Brown
- Reggie Smith, 2nd year; longshot for the CB job

Shane P. Hallam
05-03-2009, 12:54 PM
Steelers

2nd QB
Dennis Dixon
Charlie Batch

RG
Darnell Stapleton
Kraig Urbik

Nickle Corner
Deshea Townsend
Keenan Lewis
Keiwan Ratliff

RS
Mewelde Moore
Stefan Logan
Joe Burnett
Mike Wallace

LS
Greg Warren
Mark Estemyer

3rd/4th WR
Limas Sweed
Shaun McDonald
Mike Wallace

FB (If Summers is placed at FB)
Frank Summers
Carey Davis

The Cornerback battle is actually for the #2, and toss in William Gay, FYI

PACKmanN
05-03-2009, 01:22 PM
Packers

5th WR
Ruvell Martin
Jamarko Simmons
Brett Swain
Jake Allen
Lorne Sam

OC
Scott Wells
Jason Spitz

RG
Jason Spitz
Josh Sitton

RT
Breno Giacomini
TJ Lang
Jamon Meredith

TE
Donald Lee
Jermichael Finley

LE
Justin Harrell
Johnny Jolly

ROLB
Clay Matthews Jr.
Jeremy Thompson
Jason Hunter

P
Jeremy Kapinos
Durant Brooks

LonghornsLegend
05-03-2009, 01:25 PM
I don't know that Dallas will be having many position battles this year, I think Austin is going to get that #2 WR spot, and Sensabaugh is a starter now too, but that 2nd CB spot is certainly open for grabs between Scandrick and Jenkins.


2nd CB:

Mike Jenkins
Orlando Scandrick



Jenkins played outside as a rookie, and Scandrick played the slot and Scandrick had a better year overall, more consistent and he showed some flashes of a young Newman covering the slot...Both guys will see the field a bit because we run quite a bit of Nickle but Scandrick is still pushing to start opposite T-New.


I prefer Jenkins outside, I think he does too, he can play more bump and run from the outside and he was excellent when he could get physical and run with the WR alot like Al Harris...His off man and zone coverage got better as the year went on and he's still got a tremendous amount of potential.


The team flirted with the idea of moving Scandrick to FS in some sets just to get him on the field more but now that Sensabaugh was signed we can let him play his natural spot at corner and his coverage skills and tenacity on the field are easy to notice when you watch him play...He plays with a chip on his shoulder, and so much confidence, two things that I haven't seen in Jenkins yet.

bigbluedefense
05-03-2009, 01:26 PM
I can't see many battles going on for the Giants

SAM: Danny Clark vs Brian Kehl vs Jonathan Goff vs Clint Sintim

-With Sintim needing to work on his coverage and ability to learn the 4-3 defense, I don't see him winning the job. He will for the most part be a 3rd down pass rusher on the dline.

For the first 2 downs, I see it as a race between Kehl and Clark. Clark was our best starting LB last year, so I think he keeps the job. Goff is actually our best true SAMbacker, but I think he's on the outside looking in because of seniority, and lack of experience due to injuries last year.

EDGE: DANNY CLARK

Nickel CB: Terrell Thomas vs Kevin Dockery

-This is an interesting one. I think Terrell Thomas is the better CB, but his big frame makes it harder for him to cover those smaller shiftier slot WRs. It could come down to matchups. Don't sleep on Thomas though, the staff was extremely impressed by him and I wouldn't be surprised if he starts over Ross on the outside if Ross has another bad year.

EDGE: TERRELL THOMAS

WR: Dominick Hixon vs Hakeem Nicks vs Mario Manningham

-Steve Smith is a lock for 1 of the 2 starting WR positions. But the other guy is a toss up. 3 guys have a legit chance to win it. The coaching staff raves about Manningham, but because of injuries last year barely saw any playing time. Hixon is the most experienced guy, but fizzled out at the end of the season and can't runblock for his life, and Nicks is the prized rookie "savior" if you will. This is definitely the most interesting and most important battle of training camp.

EDGE: DOMINIK HIXON

LonghornsLegend
05-03-2009, 01:28 PM
Steelers

2nd QB
Dennis Dixon
Charlie Batch

RG
Darnell Stapleton
Kraig Urbik

2nd Corner
William Gay
Deshea Townsend
Keenan Lewis
Keiwan Ratliff

RS
Mewelde Moore
Stefan Logan
Joe Burnett
Mike Wallace

LS
Greg Warren
Mark Estemyer

3rd/4th WR
Limas Sweed
Shaun McDonald
Mike Wallace

FB (If Summers is placed at FB)
Frank Summers
Carey Davis


I think Mike Wallace can have a Mike Wallace type impact early for the Steelers out of the slot like Eddie Royal...Wallace is a play-maker and I think he'll pass up Sweed early on in that race as long as Heinz Ward is still going strong.

bigbluedefense
05-03-2009, 01:31 PM
I don't know that Dallas will be having many position battles this year, I think Austin is going to get that #2 WR spot, and Sensabaugh is a starter now too, but that 2nd CB spot is certainly open for grabs between Scandrick and Jenkins.


2nd CB:

Mike Jenkins
Orlando Scandrick



Jenkins played outside as a rookie, and Scandrick played the slot and Scandrick had a better year overall, more consistent and he showed some flashes of a young Newman covering the slot...Both guys will see the field a bit because we run quite a bit of Nickle but Scandrick is still pushing to start opposite T-New.


I prefer Jenkins outside, I think he does too, he can play more bump and run from the outside and he was excellent when he could get physical and run with the WR alot like Al Harris...His off man and zone coverage got better as the year went on and he's still got a tremendous amount of potential.


The team flirted with the idea of moving Scandrick to FS in some sets just to get him on the field more but now that Sensabaugh was signed we can let him play his natural spot at corner and his coverage skills and tenacity on the field are easy to notice when you watch him play...He plays with a chip on his shoulder, and so much confidence, two things that I haven't seen in Jenkins yet.

I think Scandrick is perfect for the slot, id keep him there and Jenkins on the outside.

Im not in love with your safeties, but I wouldn't try to "fix" one liability and potentially turn 1 issue into 2 issues by moving a good player out of position.

LonghornsLegend
05-03-2009, 01:34 PM
I think Scandrick is perfect for the slot, id keep him there and Jenkins on the outside.

Im not in love with your safeties, but I wouldn't try to "fix" one liability and potentially turn 1 issue into 2 issues by moving a good player out of position.

I think that's will happen, everyone was pretty pissed about the position change talk because it didn't make any sense but since FA and draft there is more depth now...We just have to let Sensabaugh play out this 1 year deal and try to jack up his price by a strong year and hope that we have something in Deangelo Smith in the process.

bearsfan_51
05-03-2009, 01:34 PM
Please provide information for those of you that are not. The informational posts are very helpful, the lists of players names are not.

doingthisinsteadofwork
05-03-2009, 01:37 PM
Oakland

RB: Fargas vs McFadden vs Bush: I think McFadden wins the starting job.

WR #2: DHB vs Schilens vs Higgins: Schilens and Higgins have alot more experience and have started DHB just has more talent and more potential.

LT: Barnes vs Henderson: I think Barnes wins.

RT: The loser of LT vs Cornell Green vs Pears: Probably Henderson.

S: Tyvon Branch vs Mike Mitchell vs Huff vs Eugene: Right now I think Tyvon Branch will start, hes physical has some experience,has the ability to be a playmaker, and can also play both S positions.It'll be interesting to see who wins the other position.

bigbluedefense
05-03-2009, 01:37 PM
I think that's will happen, everyone was pretty pissed about the position change talk because it didn't make any sense but since FA and draft there is more depth now...We just have to let Sensabaugh play out this 1 year deal and try to jack up his price by a strong year and hope that we have something in Deangelo Smith in the process.

I was surprised you guys passed on Rashad Johnson. He was there for the taking.

LonghornsLegend
05-03-2009, 01:42 PM
I was surprised you guys passed on Rashad Johnson. He was there for the taking.

Wondering the same as well, he's a centerfielder, playmaker and a leader, I guess a 2nd and 3rd round of Gilbert and Johnson made too much sense...I was hoping we would take a shot on Sean Smith there, but that Johnson pick alot of Cowboy fans will remember.

Hines
05-03-2009, 01:42 PM
I think Mike Wallace can have a Mike Wallace type impact early for the Steelers out of the slot like Eddie Royal...Wallace is a play-maker and I think he'll pass up Sweed early on in that race as long as Heinz Ward is still going strong.

The only impact I see Wallace making is at KR. He is very raw at route running and I don't see him making the WR rotation unless someone gets hurt.

I see the WRs that make the team as:

Holmes/Hines/Sweed/McDonald/Wallace

McDonald comes in on third WR sets on 3rd and short, while Sweed comes in if we need a big play.

JMO, though.

GB12
05-03-2009, 01:56 PM
Right Guard
Jason Spitz - Starter at RG since he was drafted 3 years ago...also could compete with Scott Wells to start at center...has made starts at LG, C, and RG in the NFL
Josh Sitton - RT at USF that helped lead the way from Kevin Smith's rushing record...moved to guard in the NFL...some discussions that he could compete for the right tackle spots, but McCarthy has said he'll stay at guard...actually won the RG spot last season as a rookie, but an injury just before the season gave it to Spitz...still started two games in 2008

Prediction: Jason Spitz - A close one here that could really go either way. I think Spitz holds off Sitton this time and starts at RG for the 4th straight year.

Right Tackle
TJ Lang - 2009 4th round pick from Eastern Michigan...could play guard as well, but will be given a chance at RT...played LT his last two years in college
Jamon Meredith - 2009 5th round pick...probably will stay at LT and be developed as a possible replacement for Clifton
Breno Giacomini - 2008 7th round pick from Louisville...unlike pretty much everyone else on our line he is only a RT, which could help him...coaches really like him...probably still needs a year before he's ready to start
Tony Moll - 2006 5th round pick from Nevada...started 18 games with the Packers including 5 last year...starts have come at both right guard and right tackle, but the majority at RT...played very well in 10 starts as a rookie...neck injury in early 2007, hasn't looked the same since...career backup...adding Lang and Meredith in the draft could leave him without a roster spot
Allen Barbre - Entering his 3rd year...played tackle his whole career at Missouri Southern, but we moved him to guard for the past two years...this year we're making him more of a tackle again...was drafted as a project player...a ton of potential, but he's still not close to reaching it yet
Mark Tauscher - Currently he's not actually on the roster...he won't be able to play until mid September due to injury...was the starting right tackle for the past 9 years in Green Bay...unlikely that he'll be back, but he hasn't been completely ruled out...could possibly retire

Prediction: TJ Lang - So many options to go here, but I think the rookie takes it. I'm counting against Tauscher coming back, and even if he did someone would have to start the first 3 weeks or so. Moll is nothing more than a backup judging by last year. I think Meredith will be looked at as a LT, and Giacomini and Barbre just aren't ready yet.

Tight End
Donald Lee - Started the past two years in Green Bay...11 combined TDs in that time...had a worse year statistically in 2008 than in 2007, although it wasn't really his fault
JerMichael Finley - 2008 3rd round pick from Texas...extremely raw coming out of college, but incredible potential...as expected did not contribute much as a rookie...looked lost for most of the year, but then improved late in the season

Prediction: Donald Lee - Finley won't be quite ready week 1. I think that Lee opens the season as the starter, but Finley will overtake him late in the year.

Fullback
Korey Hall - 2007 pick out of Boise State...was a LB in college that the Packers converted to a FB...started right away as a rookie...banged up last year and missed time...not too impressive...is now listed as a LB on nfl.com
John Kuhn - Picked up off of waivers from Pittsburgh before the season started in 2007...saw time in dual FB packeges with Hall at first, but then started taking reps away from Hall...started 2 fewer games than Hall last year, but probably saw the field more
Quinn Johnson - 2009 5th round pick...somewhat surprising of a pick because of Kuhn and Hall...same type of fullback as the other two...traditional blocking back...about 15 pounds lighter than Kuhn, but about the same size as Hall

Prediction: Quinn Johnson - Another one that I think the rookie takes it. I see Johnson starting, Kuhn as the second FB, and Hall cut.

#3 WR
James Jones - 2007 3rd round pick...came on real strong as a rookie...hit by injuries last year...missed 6 games and was banged up in the ones he did play in
Jordy Nelson - 2008 2nd round pick and first Packer's selection...decent rookie season...has a good connection with Aaron Rodgers

Prediction: Jordy Nelson - Not really a big deal here because both will see the field plenty. It's more of what packeges and personell we want on the field than who is the 3 and who is the 4. I put Nelson ahead simply because I think he'll catch more balls, but again it doesn't matter.

NT
Ryan Pickett - Started all 3 years in Green Bay in the Jim Bates' scheme...had a similar job and was asked to take on double teams in those years...6'2" 330...does not offer any pass rush
BJ Raji - 2009 9th overall pick...considered the best NT prospect since Haloti Ngata...6'1" 337...can take on multiple blockers and generate some inside pass rush

Prediction: Ryan Pickett - I think they'll let Pickett stay a starter. He will be heavily rotated with Raji though. Also both players will be tried at DE as rotational players there. Pickett probably gets the starting tag this year with Raji playing a lot as well.

Defensive End
Johnny Jolly - Was the starter at DT in the 4-3 the past two years...he's 320 pounds, but a better fit at DE in the 3-4 than NT...wasn't too impressive next year...still hasn't had his legal trouble settled yet...could miss up to 4 games because of that
Justin Harrell - 2007 first round pick...has been hit hard with injuries and hasn't had much of a chance because of that...only 13 games in two years as a pro...looked alright, but not impressive in his limited time last year...3-4 DE could suit him well if he can stay healthy

Prediction: Justin Harrell - Everyone loves to give Harrell the bust lable, but he is not a bust yet. He needs to stay healthy all of season and through the actual season so we can actually see what he can do. So far he is injury free and if he can keep it up he should be starting. I think he fits the role of 3-4 DE pretty well and should make the position switch with ease. If Harrell can prove himself we should have a nice 3-4 line for the next few years with him, Raji, and Jenkins.

Punter
Jeremy Kapinos - Took over as punter in Green Bay in week 13 after Derek Frost failed...was not that good, but still much better than Frost...has the leg to kick in the cold...to be fair he was in cold weather for 3 of the 4 weeks...the one week he had warm weather he posted a 43.5 yard average

Durant Brooks - Was the guy that Washington cut Frost for...had about the same average as Kapinos although he had more attempts...another big leg, he had a 76 yard punt at Georgia Tech

Prediction: Durant Brooks - Not great options to choose from. I'm surprised that we didn't pick up a punter in the draft or even an UDFA. Brooks was signed right after the season and I think he is the guy we wanted.

diabsoule
05-03-2009, 02:04 PM
New Orleans Saints

Free Safety: Darren Sharper vs. Chip Vaughn Although Darren Sharper played SS the past few seasons with Minnesota and Vaughn played SS during his time at Wake Forest, Sean Payton and Gregg Williams both see them as free safeties. Sharper has lost a step and apparently the coaches love Vaughn. Malcom Jenkins could factor in here as well.

EDGE: Chip Vaughn

Cornerback: Malcom Jenkins vs. Tracy Porter vs. Jabari Greer vs. Randall Gay

The Saints had several different starting CB's last year due to injuries. Coaches were very impressed with Porter during the few games he played before going down with an injury. Randall Gay also played well when he was put into the starting role...
With that being said, Jenkins and Porter are the two most talented CB's on the Saints roster and both should be the starting CB's come opening day. If Jenkins does not win a starting role, he will be the starting nickel with Jabari Greer opposite Porter.

EDGE: Malcom Jenkins & Tracy Porter

Weakside Linebacker: Stanley Arnoux vs. Scott Shanle

Saints scouts and coaches loved Arnoux and they project him as a WLB. Shanle has been the starting WLB the past several years, which is amazing in and of itself. Shanle should start the season as the starting WLB but I don't see him retaining it for the full season.

EDGE (slight): Scott Shanle

Punter: Glenn Pakulak vs. Thomas Morstead

Pakulak was a mid-season acquisition who performed very well. Morstead is a rookie with a cannon for a leg. Should be the most intriguing camp battle.

EDGE: Glenn Pakulak

Matthew Jones
05-03-2009, 02:19 PM
New England Patriots

Starting Running Back

The candidates:

Kevin Faulk
Laurence Maroney
Sammy Morris
Fred Taylor

Analysis: This is probably going to be some kind of committee. I personally think Laurence Maroney is the least effective of the four but I think he gets the first shot at the starting job. My best guess would be him or Fred Taylor.

Slot Wide Receiver

The candidates:

Joey Galloway
Greg Lewis
Brandon Tate

Analysis: My best guess would be that Galloway is the favorite. Brandon Tate is going to take a while to heal and then he's a rookie and has a lot of work to do. Greg Lewis will probably take on the #4 role for now.

Starting Tight End

The candidates:

Chris Baker
Alex Smith
Ben Watson

Analysis: Honestly, this is a wide-open competition. I have no idea who's going to eventually get the starting job. It seems like the Patriots are shopping Ben Watson though, so I would imagine one of the other two wins.

Starting Outside Linebacker

The candidates:

Tully Banta-Cain
Shawn Crable
Pierre Woods

Analysis: I think Pierre Woods should be the starter. Shawn Crable has a lot of work to do before he's ready to start and we haven't really seen him yet. TBC hasn't been on the Pats for a while and he was a reserve in San Fran last year.

Starting Safety

The candidates:

Patrick Chung
Rodney Harrison
James Sanders

Analysis: This is for the spot opposite Meriweather. I have been thinking New England should go to a 4-2-5 Rover defense, and Chung would be perfect there, as would Harrison. In that situation Sanders would be the other "true" safety.

Mr. Hero
05-03-2009, 02:24 PM
#1 WR and #2 WR
Steve Smith 3rd year slot man
Domenik Hixon Explosive Wide Out/returnman, who can get separation but can he catch consistently?
Hakeem Nicks 29. Overall Pick

UT
Fred Robbins 9 year veteran, who has been the best pass rushing DT on the Giants for the last few years.
Barry Cofield 4 year pro whose has been productive since his rookie year in Big Blue
Rocky Bernard recently acquired FA DT from Seattle
Jay Alford pass rushing specialist DT, 3rd year pro.

NT
Chris Canty Recently acquired 3-4 DE FA from Dallas might make more of an impact in a new scheme.
Fred Robbins

SAM
Danny Clark Veteran JAG who is solid all-around
Bryan Kehl 2nd year pro who played well in limited tim last year
Clint Sintim 2nd Round pick

I think Goff is in the competition for SLB, I also think Terrell Thomas could win the starting corner spot opposite Webster if he out plays Aaron Ross by a noticeable margin.

Jensen
05-03-2009, 02:30 PM
Arizona Cardinals

Runningback - Chris "Beanie" Wells vs. Tim Hightower
Hightower has the edge right now IMO due to experience and he is more familiar with the system, but if Beanie has a good camp and preseason he could overtake Hightower and win the starting job. If Beanie doesn't get the starting job at the start of the year, I'd expect him to win it at some point in the year. While I love Hightower, I simply don't think he has the ability to be a good starting RB while Beanie does.

Prediction: Tim Hightower. I think Hightower starts at the beginning of the year, and if he doesn't do well Beanie will take over.

Tight End - Leonard Pope vs. Ben Patrick
Whisenhunt seems to want a TE that will help out the O-Line blocking, and Ben Patrick better suits that role. Pope is pretty much just a receiving TE. He has tried to work on his blocking, but it's not looking like it will ever come around. He is a nice red-zone threat but that is about it. While not the threat receiving that Pope is, Patrick is a lot better at blocking. The Cardinals like to have a power-running game and with the amount of times they throw the ball as well, they could use all the protection they could get.

Prediction: As of right now I would say Leonard Pope. I think he is the more "attractive" pick I guess since he can catch the ball a lot better than Patrick, but I expect them to alternate throughout the year.

Tackle - Mike Gandy vs. Herman Johnson vs. Brandon Keith
This might seem like a little bit of a surprise, but Whis and Grimm have said publicly that they will be trying big Herman out at tackle during workouts. Whether it will work out or not is yet to be seen. Brandon Keith is a guy I like that was drafted int he 7th round a couple years ago. He has been groomed a lot, and while I don't think his chances are that high, I still like him and think he might have a good shot.

Prediction: Mike Gandy. Nobody knows how Johnson will turn out at tackle and I don't think Keith is ready right now to start. IMO, Whis and Grimm will go with the more experienced Mike Gandy.

Right Guard - Deuce Lutiu vs. Trevor Canfield vs. Herman Johnson
Lutiu has not turned out that well for a 2nd round pick, and his starting job might be in jeopardy soon. I really liked the pick of Trevor Canfield in the 7th round this year and I think he might be a sleeper for this spot. If Herman Johnson doesn't work out at T, he could have a shot here as well. He will be going through a rigorous S&C program throughout training to get him to lose some pounds. Seems like a guy that Grimm might try out at some point.

Prediction: Deuce Lutiu. Again, I think the coaching staff will go with the more experienced player. I think Canfield will get close, but won't win the starting job.

Nickelback - Ralph Brown vs. Antrel Rolle vs. Rashad Johnson
The Cardinals will be using the nickelback package more this year, and that means that one of the DB's will be getting more playing time. Just to clarify this, Rashad Johnson won't be the nickelback, I put him in there because if Antrel Rolle does play nickel, Johnson will most likely play at FS. Ralph Brown really impressed the coaches during the playoffs. He has improved a lot over the past year, and I think he has a great shot.

Prediction: Antrel Rolle. With Rolle being a former CB and having pretty good pass defense skills, I think he wins the job. If Rolle does win the job, I think Rashad Johnson will take over FS while Rolle is there.

3-4 Strongside Linebacker - Chike Okeafor vs. Cody Brown
Okeafor was almost a cap casualty this year, and IMO the only reason he wasn't is because LaBoy was a worse fit at OLB then he was. Okeafor is mediocre in coverage and has some pass rushing ability, but I don't really think he is that great of a 3-4 OLB. If Cody Brown can impress during workouts and the preseason, I think he has a great shot at winning the job. He seems to possess great pass rushing skills, and that is what the Cards' defense needs.

Prediction: Cody Brown. This might come a surprise, but I think Brown will impress the coaches enough to win the starting job. Whether he keeps it will be the question.

princefielder28
05-03-2009, 02:39 PM
Right Guard
Jason Spitz - Starter at RG since he was drafted 3 years ago...also could compete with Scott Wells to start at center...has made starts at LG, C, and RG in the NFL
Josh Sitton - RT at USF that helped lead the way from Kevin Smith's rushing record...moved to guard in the NFL...some discussions that he could compete for the right tackle spots, but McCarthy has said he'll stay at guard...actually won the RG spot last season as a rookie, but an injury just before the season gave it to Spitz...still started two games in 2008

Prediction: Jason Spitz - A close one here that could really go either way. I think Spitz holds off Sitton this time and starts at RG for the 4th straight year.

Right Tackle
TJ Lang - 2009 4th round pick from Eastern Michigan...could play guard as well, but will be given a chance at RT...played LT his last two years in college
Jamon Meredith - 2009 5th round pick...probably will stay at LT and be developed as a possible replacement for Clifton
Breno Giacomini - 2008 7th round pick from Louisville...unlike pretty much everyone else on our line he is only a RT, which could help him...coaches really like him...probably still needs a year before he's ready to start
Tony Moll - 2006 5th round pick from Nevada...started 18 games with the Packers including 5 last year...starts have come at both right guard and right tackle, but the majority at RT...played very well in 10 starts as a rookie...neck injury in early 2007, hasn't looked the same since...career backup...adding Lang and Meredith in the draft could leave him without a roster spot
Allen Barbre - Entering his 3rd year...played tackle his whole career at Missouri Southern, but we moved him to guard for the past two years...this year we're making him more of a tackle again...was drafted as a project player...a ton of potential, but he's still not close to reaching it yet
Mark Tauscher - Currently he's not actually on the roster...he won't be able to play until mid September due to injury...was the starting right tackle for the past 9 years in Green Bay...unlikely that he'll be back, but he hasn't been completely ruled out...could possibly retire

Prediction: TJ Lang - So many options to go here, but I think the rookie takes it. I'm counting against Tauscher coming back, and even if he did someone would have to start the first 3 weeks or so. Moll is nothing more than a backup judging by last year. I think Meredith will be looked at as a LT, and Giacomini and Barbre just aren't ready yet.

Tight End
Donald Lee - Started the past two years in Green Bay...11 combined TDs in that time...had a worse year statistically in 2008 than in 2007, although it wasn't really his fault
JerMichael Finley - 2008 3rd round pick from Texas...extremely raw coming out of college, but incredible potential...as expected did not contribute much as a rookie...looked lost for most of the year, but then improved late in the season

Prediction: Donald Lee - Finley won't be quite ready week 1. I think that Lee opens the season as the starter, but Finley will overtake him late in the year.

Fullback
Korey Hall - 2007 pick out of Boise State...was a LB in college that the Packers converted to a FB...started right away as a rookie...banged up last year and missed time...not too impressive...is now listed as a LB on nfl.com
John Kuhn - Picked up off of waivers from Pittsburgh before the season started in 2007...saw time in dual FB packeges with Hall at first, but then started taking reps away from Hall...started 2 fewer games than Hall last year, but probably saw the field more
Quinn Johnson - 2009 5th round pick...somewhat surprising of a pick because of Kuhn and Hall...same type of fullback as the other two...traditional blocking back...about 15 pounds lighter than Kuhn, but about the same size as Hall

Prediction: Quinn Johnson - Another one that I think the rookie takes it. I see Johnson starting, Kuhn as the second FB, and Hall cut.

#3 WR
James Jones - 2007 3rd round pick...came on real strong as a rookie...hit by injuries last year...missed 6 games and was banged up in the ones he did play in
Jordy Nelson - 2008 2nd round pick and first Packer's selection...decent rookie season...has a good connection with Aaron Rodgers

Prediction: Jordy Nelson - Not really a big deal here because both will see the field plenty. It's more of what packeges and personell we want on the field than who is the 3 and who is the 4. I put Nelson ahead simply because I think he'll catch more balls, but again it doesn't matter.

NT
Ryan Pickett - Started all 3 years in Green Bay in the Jim Bates' scheme...had a similar job and was asked to take on double teams in those years...6'2" 330...does not offer any pass rush
BJ Raji - 2009 9th overall pick...considered the best NT prospect since Haloti Ngata...6'1" 337...can take on multiple blockers and generate some inside pass rush

Prediction: Ryan Pickett - I think they'll let Pickett stay a starter. He will be heavily rotated with Raji though. Also both players will be tried at DE as rotational players there. Pickett probably gets the starting tag this year with Raji playing a lot as well.

Defensive End
Johnny Jolly - Was the starter at DT in the 4-3 the past two years...he's 320 pounds, but a better fit at DE in the 3-4 than NT...wasn't too impressive next year...still hasn't had his legal trouble settled yet...could miss up to 4 games because of that
Justin Harrell - 2007 first round pick...has been hit hard with injuries and hasn't had much of a chance because of that...only 13 games in two years as a pro...looked alright, but not impressive in his limited time last year...3-4 DE could suit him well if he can stay healthy

Prediction: Justin Harrell - Everyone loves to give Harrell the bust lable, but he is not a bust yet. He needs to stay healthy all of season and through the actual season so we can actually see what he can do. So far he is injury free and if he can keep it up he should be starting. I think he fits the role of 3-4 DE pretty well and should make the position switch with ease. If Harrell can prove himself we should have a nice 3-4 line for the next few years with him, Raji, and Jenkins.

Punter
Jeremy Kapinos - Took over as punter in Green Bay in week 13 after Derek Frost failed...was not that good, but still much better than Frost...has the leg to kick in the cold...to be fair he was in cold weather for 3 of the 4 weeks...the one week he had warm weather he posted a 43.5 yard average

Durant Brooks - Was the guy that Washington cut Frost for...had about the same average as Kapinos although he had more attempts...another big leg, he had a 76 yard punt at Georgia Tech

Prediction: Durant Brooks - Not great options to choose from. I'm surprised that we didn't pick up a punter in the draft or even an UDFA. Brooks was signed right after the season and I think he is the guy we wanted.

I agree with all the important position battles and for the most part who will be the players who will take hold of the starting spot. There's two I disagree with though, defensive end and right tackle.

Harrell has been held in high regards by Ted and staff since he's been brought in, but he hasn't seen the game time or been healthy enough to ensure a starting spot right away. Coach McCarthy has talked quite a bit about Pickett possibly being moved out to end and Raji being the anchor in the middle. If Raji grasps what the coaches are looking for I think that lies as the most likely scenario. Raji may have the ability to play end too, but I think the focus for him will come in the middle. Either way I see Jenkins-Raji-Pickett as the Packers front three come week one.

At right tackle I think it's Breno's job to lose. We have heard so much about how the coaches love him, and the staff has not been hesitant to throw a youngster into the fire if they like him. I don't see Lang as his greatest challenge either. I think Moll will be given the chance otherwise due to previous starting experience in the league.

As far as TJ Lang, I think he'll see alot of reps inside at LG. I don't see him having enough success on the outside and moving inside will give him a greater chance to play, especially if Colledge is the future replacement for Clifton.

wicket
05-03-2009, 02:44 PM
New Orleans Saints

Free Safety: Darren Sharper vs. Chip Vaughn Although Darren Sharper played SS the past few seasons with Minnesota and Vaughn played SS during his time at Wake Forest, Sean Payton and Gregg Williams both see them as free safeties. Sharper has lost a step and apparently the coaches love Vaughn. Malcom Jenkins could factor in here as well.

EDGE: Chip Vaughn

Cornerback: Malcom Jenkins vs. Tracy Porter vs. Jabari Greer vs. Randall Gay

The Saints had several different starting CB's last year due to injuries. Coaches were very impressed with Porter during the few games he played before going down with an injury. Randall Gay also played well when he was put into the starting role...
With that being said, Jenkins and Porter are the two most talented CB's on the Saints roster and both should be the starting CB's come opening day. If Jenkins does not win a starting role, he will be the starting nickel with Jabari Greer opposite Porter.

EDGE: Malcom Jenkins & Tracy Porter

Weakside Linebacker: Stanley Arnoux vs. Scott Shanle

Saints scouts and coaches loved Arnoux and they project him as a WLB. Shanle has been the starting WLB the past several years, which is amazing in and of itself. Shanle should start the season as the starting WLB but I don't see him retaining it for the full season.

EDGE (slight): Scott Shanle

Punter: Glenn Pakulak vs. Thomas Morstead

Pakulak was a mid-season acquisition who performed very well. Morstead is a rookie with a cannon for a leg. Should be the most intriguing camp battle.

EDGE: Glenn Pakulak


I'd add Usama Young to the guys battling for the FS position. I would also add the UT position to the battle.
UT: DeMario Pressley, Kendrick Clancy, Paul Spicer (maybe more guys I forgot)
One of the positions in our lineup I dont like. The news out of training camp last year was that Pressley looked really good until injured.
Edge: DeMario Pressley
side note: God i hope arnoux beats out shanle. That would make me hate picking him a lot less.

AntoinCD
05-03-2009, 02:58 PM
New England Patriots



Starting Safety

The candidates:

Patrick Chung
Rodney Harrison
James Sanders

Analysis: This is for the spot opposite Meriweather. I have been thinking New England should go to a 4-2-5 Rover defense, and Chung would be perfect there, as would Harrison. In that situation Sanders would be the other "true" safety.

I think you have to include Tank Williams for that role as well, as I believe that's what he was brought in for. As for week one I would be surprised if the two starting safeties weren't Merriweather and James Sanders but Chung should be starting at SS by about week 5.

PalmerToCJ
05-03-2009, 03:59 PM
Cincinnati Bengals

MLB
Dhani Jones and Rey Maualuga
Both Jones and Maualuga are almost surely going to start, it's just a matter of deciding which one gets the middle and which one ends up at the strong side. The coaching staff has stated they like Rey's versatility and that they are going to have to feel out where he will belong in the defense (initially at least). I hope Rey wins it however Jones played very solid last year and was our rock. Regardless, our starting LB's will be Rivers, Maualuga and Jones.

FS
Chris Crocker and Marvin White
I thought Marvin White played adequate but not great, he's great in pass protection but very average in his run defense. Crocker came in as a free agent halfway through the season and played tremendously on defense. He was a playmaker however White has a lot of potential. Given his play at the end of the season, Crocker is probably the favorite at this point.

Center
Kyle Cook and Johnathan Luigs
All I have to say is Cook was undrafted, I have no idea what to expect from him. I can only hope that Luigs comes in and wins the spot.

UT
Tank Johnson and Pat Sims
Johnson was signed a few weeks ago, the staff seems to be high on him. Specifically our LB coach said Tank Johnson would be a big reason for Keith Rivers to continue to improve this year. Pat Sims started at the end of the season and played very well but I think it will be a battle to see who gets the starting time.

There are some other ones. Such as if Andre Smith or Anthony Collins (or even Levi Jones) start at LT. In the end, I hope Smith goes to RT and Collins at LT. Collins played very well there last season and you can only assume he will continue to improve.

Also at 3rd WR between Andre Caldwell and Chris Henry (maybe Jerome Simpson).

Don Vito
05-03-2009, 04:43 PM
New England Patriots

Starting Running Back

The candidates:

Kevin Faulk
Laurence Maroney
Sammy Morris
Fred Taylor

Analysis: This is probably going to be some kind of committee. I personally think Laurence Maroney is the least effective of the four but I think he gets the first shot at the starting job. My best guess would be him or Fred Taylor.

Slot Wide Receiver

The candidates:

Joey Galloway
Greg Lewis
Brandon Tate

Analysis: My best guess would be that Galloway is the favorite. Brandon Tate is going to take a while to heal and then he's a rookie and has a lot of work to do. Greg Lewis will probably take on the #4 role for now.

Starting Tight End

The candidates:

Chris Baker
Alex Smith
Ben Watson

Analysis: Honestly, this is a wide-open competition. I have no idea who's going to eventually get the starting job. It seems like the Patriots are shopping Ben Watson though, so I would imagine one of the other two wins.

Starting Outside Linebacker

The candidates:

Tully Banta-Cain
Shawn Crable
Pierre Woods

Analysis: I think Pierre Woods should be the starter. Shawn Crable has a lot of work to do before he's ready to start and we haven't really seen him yet. TBC hasn't been on the Pats for a while and he was a reserve in San Fran last year.

Starting Safety

The candidates:

Patrick Chung
Rodney Harrison
James Sanders

Analysis: This is for the spot opposite Meriweather. I have been thinking New England should go to a 4-2-5 Rover defense, and Chung would be perfect there, as would Harrison. In that situation Sanders would be the other "true" safety.

That all sounds right. All I would add is-
RT (Kazcur/O'Callaghan/Vollmer)
Nickel Corner (Terrance Wheatley/Jonathan Wilhite/Darius Butler)
Backup NT (Mike Wright/Ron Brace/Myron Pryor)
FB (David Thomas/Eric Kettani)

DJC
05-03-2009, 04:58 PM
Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Starting Quaterback
Luke McCown - Trade in '06. 67.6% Completion, 1009 Yards, 5 TD:3 INT, 91.7 QB Rating in '07
vs.
Byron Leftwich - FA '09. 58.3% Completion, 303 Yards, 2 TD:0 INT, 104.3 QB Rating in '08
vs.
Josh Freeman - 2009 11th Overall Pick
McCown has the edge going into camp. There were rumors about Leftwich just being signed as a smokescreen for the draft, and there were rumors about Leftwich being signed because McCown looked bad in the first mini-camp. Believe what you want, but from what I initially read was that McCown was giving Jim Bates' defense fits in the first camp. I do not think that the team will rush Freeman into the starting role. If he impresses the coaches though through training camp, the job could be his. Raheem has stated multiple times its an open competition and also that the starter will be named by the team's 3rd preseason game.

#3 Wide Receiver
Maurice Stovall - '06 3rd Round Draft Pick. 20 Receptions, 213 Yards, 10.7 YPC, 1 TD for Career
vs.
Dexter Jackson - '08 2nd Round Draft Pick.
vs.
Sammie Stroughter - '09 7th Round Draft Pick.
vs.
Kelly Campbell - '09 FA. 54 Receptions, 1,223 Yards, 22.6 YPC, 7 TDs in CFL '08

Antonio Bryant and Michael Clayton pretty much have the #1 and #2 spots locked up. Maurice Stovall probably has the edge going into camp for #3, but this is pretty much a wide open race. Stovall has been with the team the longest, but the production hasn't been there yet. He could win the job if he proves to be effective in Jagodzinski's offense. Dexter was a huge disappoint his rookie year and didn't look like anything special in the limited time he had returning kicks. However, Raheem has come out and said that Dexter realized all this and has been working harder than ever trying to get better and earn his spot. If he shows some flashes of what he was supposed to be as a 2nd round pick, he could be the starting slot to begin the season. Stroughter and Campbell are two underdogs for the job. Both are big play threats that have just joined the team this offseason. Campbell, who had some stints with the Dolphins and the Vikings in the L, was in the CFL last year and showed his big play ability with 22+ yards per catch and 7 tds. He's a deep threat, something we've been lacking, who has more NFL experience than any other player listed here. Stroughter is one of my personal favorite draft picks from this class, and apparently Raheem feels the same way. He impressed the coaches early on in the rookie mini-camp this weekend. Here's one of the quotes from Raheem: "Stroughter's been one of the pleasant surprises of the camp," coach Raheem Morris said. "You talk about mentally tough, talk about a guy who can go inside and make plays and get vertical, he's impressive. I like everything about him." Rah' has also gone on record saying he likes projects. Given that and his high praise for the 7th rounder, it may not be too far fetched that he walks out of camp with the job.

Starting Right Tackle
Jeremy Trueblood - '06 2nd Round Pick
vs.
Jeremy Zuttah - '08 3rd Round Pick

Trueblood's spot probably isn't in danger, but there has been some speculation among Buc fans about Zuttah possibly overtaking him. Opinions on Trueblood vary from fan to fan, some call for his head and some love his toughness. Zuttah does have a couple things going for him though. He started 5 games last year and was pretty good, so he has the experience. Also, we have a new OC and OLine coach, and we'll be making the change to a ZBS with them. So the coaches don't really have any previous bias to the starters and the competition could be pretty open. Zutah could impress the coaches being a better fit in a ZBS, and he may impress them to the point where they make the switch.

Starting Left End
Stylez G. White - FA '07. 40 Tackles, 5 Sacks, 1 PD, 1 FF in '08
vs.
Jimmy Wilkerson - FA '08. 28 Tackles, 5 Sacks, 2 PD, 1 FF in '08
vs.
Kyle Moore - 4th Round Draft Pick in '09.
vs.
Greg Peterson - 5th Round Draft Pick in '07.

This is another pretty open race for '09 with Kevin Carter gone. White had a breakout season in '07, but regreseed a bit in '08 and is old for a 3rd year player due to his AFL stint. Wilkerson was a FA pick-up last year and played pretty good last season as a back-up and even started one game. Usually 4th round rookie DEs don't start, but Moore has a legit chance if he catches on quick. Peterson is a former undersized DT drafted as a project for our T2, but now with the switch to Bates' defense he doesn't really fit inside. he'll likely make the switch to DE this year, and if the Bucs official website's roster means anything he already did. Too early to really tell here.

Starting Defensive Tackle
Chris Hovan - '05 FA. 69 Tackles, 4 TFL, 1 Sack, 1 PD in '08
vs.
Ryan Sims - Trade in '07. 27 Tackles, 3 TFL, 1.5 Sack, 2 PD in '08
vs.
Dre Moore - 4th Round Pick in '08.
vs.
Roy Miller - 3rd Round Pick in '09.


Starting Outside Linebackers
Angelo Crowell - FA '09. 140 Tackles in '07. IR in '08.
vs.
Jermaine Phillips - 5th Round Pick in '02. Former Safety who may make the switch to LB.
vs.
Quincy Black - 3rd Round Pick in '07. 2 Defensive Tackles, 24 Special Teams Tackles in '08.
vs.
Geno Hayes - 6th Round Pick in '08. 8 Defensive Tackles, 7 Special Teams Tackles, and 1 PD in '08.
vs.
Adam Hayward - 6th Round Pick in '07. 5 Defensive Tackles, 12 Special Teams Tackles in '08.


#2 Cornerback
Ronde Barber - 3rd Round Pick in '97. 100 Tackles, 4 INTs, 16 PD in '08.
vs.
Elbert Mack - UDFA in '08.

Dime Cornerback
Torrie Cox - 6th Round Pick in '06. 35 Tackles, 1 INT, 4 PD, 1 TD for Career.
vs.
E.J. Biggers - 7th Round Pick in '09.
vs.
DeAngelo Willingham - UDFA in '09.


**** we look like a mess on paper. I didn't realize it'd be this much, I'll finish later.

GB12
05-03-2009, 05:21 PM
I agree with all the important position battles and for the most part who will be the players who will take hold of the starting spot. There's two I disagree with though, defensive end and right tackle.

Harrell has been held in high regards by Ted and staff since he's been brought in, but he hasn't seen the game time or been healthy enough to ensure a starting spot right away. Coach McCarthy has talked quite a bit about Pickett possibly being moved out to end and Raji being the anchor in the middle. If Raji grasps what the coaches are looking for I think that lies as the most likely scenario. Raji may have the ability to play end too, but I think the focus for him will come in the middle. Either way I see Jenkins-Raji-Pickett as the Packers front three come week one.

At right tackle I think it's Breno's job to lose. We have heard so much about how the coaches love him, and the staff has not been hesitant to throw a youngster into the fire if they like him. I don't see Lang as his greatest challenge either. I think Moll will be given the chance otherwise due to previous starting experience in the league.

As far as TJ Lang, I think he'll see alot of reps inside at LG. I don't see him having enough success on the outside and moving inside will give him a greater chance to play, especially if Colledge is the future replacement for Clifton.
Pickett and Raji will see time at end; I'd be shocked if either was a starter there. Both are primarily NTs. They'll rotate in for a couple plays a game at end, but neither would start there. I doubt Pickett's ability to play end at all, but when he does it'll be limited. Between the two of them I'd bet on Raji playing end more than Pickett. Harrell and Jolly should both be seeing decent time at the end opposite Jenkins. Pickett and Raji would just be there every once in a while or for specific packages.

As for right tackle, honestly I think that competition is wide open. The only one of the guys listed that I don't think has a realistic chance is Barbre. I would not be surprised if any of the others were to win the job.

SaintsMan
05-03-2009, 05:53 PM
New Orleans Saints

Free Safety: Darren Sharper vs. Chip Vaughn Although Darren Sharper played SS the past few seasons with Minnesota and Vaughn played SS during his time at Wake Forest, Sean Payton and Gregg Williams both see them as free safeties. Sharper has lost a step and apparently the coaches love Vaughn. Malcom Jenkins could factor in here as well.

EDGE: Chip Vaughn

Cornerback: Malcom Jenkins vs. Tracy Porter vs. Jabari Greer vs. Randall Gay

The Saints had several different starting CB's last year due to injuries. Coaches were very impressed with Porter during the few games he played before going down with an injury. Randall Gay also played well when he was put into the starting role...
With that being said, Jenkins and Porter are the two most talented CB's on the Saints roster and both should be the starting CB's come opening day. If Jenkins does not win a starting role, he will be the starting nickel with Jabari Greer opposite Porter.

EDGE: Malcom Jenkins & Tracy Porter

Weakside Linebacker: Stanley Arnoux vs. Scott Shanle

Saints scouts and coaches loved Arnoux and they project him as a WLB. Shanle has been the starting WLB the past several years, which is amazing in and of itself. Shanle should start the season as the starting WLB but I don't see him retaining it for the full season.

EDGE (slight): Scott Shanle

Punter: Glenn Pakulak vs. Thomas Morstead

Pakulak was a mid-season acquisition who performed very well. Morstead is a rookie with a cannon for a leg. Should be the most intriguing camp battle.

EDGE: Glenn Pakulak

I think the starters will end up being...

FS - Darren Sharper

CB - Jabari Greer, Tracy Porter

WLB - Dan Morgan

P - Thomas Morstead

fenikz
05-03-2009, 06:02 PM
Cardinals

4th WR - Early Doucet and Jerheme Urban

TE - Stephen Spach, Leonard Pope, Ben Patrick, and Anthony Becht

OLB - Bertrand Berry, Chike Okeafor, Clark Haggans, Cody Brown, and Will Davis

NB - Ralph Brown, Rashad Johnson, Greg Toler

BlindSite
05-03-2009, 06:29 PM
Carolina Panthers

Defensive End (Rotational):
This position might as well be a starting job in the Carolina Scheme.

Everette Brown -DE- 2nd Round pick - Considered by many to be the best pure pass rusher in the 2009 NFL draft, the Panthers head scout believed that he had not seen a player with his potential as a rusher come out in 5 years. Might be undersized to start, but loves to put his hand in the dirt and realistically is perfect for the Ron Meeks defense.

Charles Johnson -DE- Former third round pick, heading into his third year, managed to make a mark with 6 sacks as a situation Defensive End last year. In conjunction with Brayton and other assorted rotators helped to form a relatively decent pass rush. Johnson has bulked up to 275 and is threatening to displace Brayton if he can up his production in the run game. Considered by many to be the future at the position in Carolina.

Tight End
Jeff King
After backing up Kris Mangum and making a minor impact in his rookie season the former 4th round pick has come into his own under Jeff Davidson. Primarily used as a blocker and occasional safety valve King has the tools that Fox likes in his starting tight end, good blocking. Jeff Davidson however would likely rather see more of a receiver role out of the starter, similar to what he had in New England when he was the tight end coach and what he later worked with the Cleveland with K2. King is the starting incumbent and won't be easy to displace despite his lack of marquee billing.

Dante Rosario
In the Panthers big defeat of San Diego in last year's season opener Rosario gave a glimpse of why the Panthers took a flyer in the late rounds of the 2007 draft on an undersized tight end out of a spread offense. Rosario is a great athlete and has soft hands, but his inability to become a more consistent contributor is worrying. He has occasionally lined up at fullback but the drafting of Tony Fiametta and the retention of Hoover into his 30s shows he isn't able to handle the duty full time.

Gary Barnidge
After being stuck behind two decent tight ends his rookie season and having to undertake a big program to bulk up Barnidge made some small low impact plays late in the season. Barnidge was apparently targetted primarily by Jeff Davidson who did much of the lobbying to bring him in with two tight ends already on the roster. He has uncanny receiving skills but his lack of time spent as a blocker and his size were holding him back. If his frame has improved to where the team wanted it to be by this time and he learns the correct scheme he could very well supplant the incumbents, he's very much an outside shot.

Sam Linebacker
Na'il Diggs
The switch between Diggs and Davis has lead to an improvement in the overall play of the Panthers' linebacker corp. Davis has excelled on the weakside playing off Beason's lead and Diggs seemingly has been given a renewed youth and vigor considering his advancing age (31 this year) and injury history (knees and back). The team loves his fire and it appears his veteran leaderships adds some stability to what is still a young linebacker group.

Dan Connor
Though more suited to the weak or middle, Connor who is coming off a knee injury should find himself in a good position to supplant Diggs. Former Indianapolis coordinator Ron Meeks is bringing what will reportedly be a noticeable change to the Carolina defense and Connor should be able to provide more of an explosive threat under Meeks on the strong side than Diggs offers.

Nickel Cornerback
CJ Wilson
With Richard Marshall receiving a promotion via the release of Ken Lucas the Panthers are seeking a new third corner. CJ Wilson was drafted out of Baylor where he played in a cover 2 system. While he was expected to make a shift to safety where at the time the team had a massive hole, Wilson showed enough in his corner ability to remain on the depth chart as the team's fifth corner. His inexperience in the system and already strong depth kept him on the bench, but all reports coming from the front office appeared positive and it is believed in some circles he has the inside track.

Sherrod Martin
Drafted in the second round ahead of more touted corners Martin was brought in due to his physical presence and all round athletic ability. He is realistically a perfect fit in Meeks scheme as a rangy hitter who can force take aways. He is right now the leader in the race for the position merely due to his impressive measurables. Failure to make the position switch and adjust to being a pro-corner may lead to some hiccups and it will be interesting to see how he develops in the preseason shifting from free safety to cornerback.

I know none of these three are really heralded positions but 21 starters are coming back.

wonderbredd24
05-03-2009, 06:41 PM
Cleveland Browns

Quarterback: Brady Quinn, Derek Anderson, Brett Ratliff, Graham Harrell

Analysis:Since neither Quinn nor Anderson were moved in free agency, the starting job is up for grabs. With the trade with the Jets in the draft, Brett Ratliff enters the mix and though I would not really consider him for the starting job, he is certainly in the mix as the primary backup. I still would not rule out the Browns moving Derek Anderson some time during camp or preseason if the right offer comes along, which would potentially give Graham Harrell a shot at the 3rd string job. Personally, I think it's Quinn's job to lose since the offense that was brought in was similar to the one he ran at Notre Dame. I think Derek Anderson is a poor fit and will struggle.

Running Back: Jamal Lewis, Jerome Harrison, Noah Herron, James Davis

Analysis: Jamal Lewis looked very old last year, but might find new life since the Browns drafted Alex Mack. That said, Jerome Harrison last year was extremely productive in limited opportunities. When Harrison got the ball either as a runner or receiver, he made plays. It seems unlikely Harrison could take the pounding of 20-25 carries a game, but if he split carries, he could start. Noah Herron was brought in as a free agent and James Davis was drafted in the 6th round of the draft. Personally, I think Jamal Lewis will have his shot to see if he's not totally done, but if that does not work, I think a combination of Jerome Harrison and James Davis could prevail. Should be an interesting battle.

2nd Wide Receiver: Brian Robiskie, Mohammed Massaquoi

Analysis: Since, as I predicted, Braylon Edwards was not moved, he is the only entrenched starter at this point at Wide Receiver. Kokinis and Mangini noted a clear hole at wide receiver and took two receivers in the 2nd round with Robiskie at 36 and Massaquoi at 50. Because of his upbringing as a wide receiver, Robiskie has to be the early favorite here because he is expected to be able to produce early, which would leave Mohammed Massaquoi as the #3 guy. We'll see if that actually happens in camp.

Tight End: Steve Heiden, Martin Rucker, Robert Royal

Analysis: With the trade of Kellen Winslow, a hole was left at the starting tight end spot, though the situation is nowhere near as bad as experts wanted to paint it. Steve Heiden has been an extremely solid tight end for the Browns both as a blocker and receiver. The only problem is he tore his ACL late in the year. Martin Rucker will have his opportunities to be the guy after being picked in round 4 last year and spending most of the year injured, but when he did get in the game, he looked pretty good. It should be interesting to see if he can step his game up. He cannot block, but is a good receiving tight end or was in college. Robert Royal was brought in as a free agent and is primarily a blocking tight end, but like Heiden, seems to make his fair share of plays in the receiving game.

Center: Hank Fraley, Alex Mack, Rex Hadnot

Analysis: It stands to reason that since he was the 1st round pick, Alex Mack will be the starting center, but there's a chance, albeit small that he could play right guard leaving Fraley and Hadnot to battle for the starting center job. Fraley is a wily veteran who benefited from solid guard play in 2007, but injuries hurt our guards in 2008 and Fraley was exposed against the AFC North nose tackles. Rex Hadnot is a little more physically gifted than Fraley and could win the job based on the way the Browns offensive line appears to be going.

Right Guard: Floyd Womack, Alex Mack, Rex Hadnot

Analysis: I think this will be Porkchop's job to lose, but it's not impossible that Mack could end up there or failing that, Hadnot. Hadnot was the right guard in 2008, but ultimately struggled along with the rest of the right side of the line.

Right Tackle: Ryan Tucker, John St. Clair

Analysis: If he can be, Ryan Tucker is the best scenario at right tackle for the Browns, but injuries, age, and mental issues could prevent Tucker from winning the job. In that case it would be John St. Clair who was signed as a free agent. St. Clair is an ok right tackle, but he's not anything to get excited about. He would be a solid backup though.

Defensive End: Corey Williams, Robaire Smith, Kenyon Coleman, Shaun Smith, CJ Mosely

Analysis: I think it's safe to say that one of our defensive ends will be Corey Williams. The question is who will be the other one? The Browns acquired Kenyon Coleman in the Mark Sanchez trade and CJ Mosely was another guy Mangini had with the Jets. Robaire Smith was the starter last year, but he suffered an ACL tear and is getting old. Shaun Smith struggled mightily last year as a backup. I think this battle will be between the former Jets and I'd give the edge to Coleman. In any case, the Browns should have good depth at end.

Outside Linebacker: Kamerion Wimbley, Alex Hall, David Veikune, Eric Barton, David Bowens, Shantee Orr

Analysis: Hopefully the new coaching staff can fix what's ailing Kamerion Wimbley and he can get closer to the form he displayed as a rookie. If so, he will start. The Browns also landed Alex Hall last year in round 7 and he flashed a ton of ability as a rookie. It should be interested to see if he can continue improving this year. He's certainly the dark horse to take over a starting job. The most likely starter opposite Wimbley will be Veikune, whom the Browns selected 52 overall. The guy is apparently brilliant as a football player, looks natural as a linebacker, and is making a great impression on the staff all in rookie camp. He apparently took money off of Eric Mangini when he successfully broke down a complicated defensive scheme adequately explaining every person's role on the defense. Eric Barton and David Bowens are both former Jets who sound more like depth here than anything else. The Browns also brought in Phillip Hunt from Houston so he may be a guy to keep an eye on.

Inside Linebacker: Eric Barton, Beau Bell, Kaluka Maiava, Leon Williams

Analysis: D'Qwell Jackson is the unquestioned starter at one inside linebacker spot. The question who will play next to him? I think the ideal scenario would be to have Beau Bell step in since he's the ideal thumper 3-4 teams look for. He was picked in the 4th round last year and spent most of last year injured. Since he wasn't able to do much last year, he might not be able to step in this year. Leon Williams was another thumper the Browns drafted a few years ago, but has shown little to nothing on the field. This leaves Eric Barton, a former Jet, as the likely starter. Kaluka Maiava was drafted in round 4 this year, but his size and skillset is so similar to D'Qwell Jackson, his best fit seems in the nickel as a coverage backer.

Cornerback: Eric Wright, Brandon McDonald, Corey Ivey, Coye Francies, Don Juan Carey, Hank Poteat

Analysis: Eric Wright will be the #1 corner... the question is every other corner spot. The likely battle for the #2 corner spot will be between McDonald and Ivey. McDonald at times has been absolutely brilliant (See his rookie year against Andre Johnson) and at other times embarrassingly bad. Corey Ivey is a former Raven and a veteran at the position, but he's 5'9". Now whoever loses the battle for the #2 immediately becomes the nickel corner. There are a number of competitors to be the dimeback and 5th corner. Coye Francies and Don Carey were both 6th round picks and bring similar types of games to the Browns, while Hank Poteat is an aging veteran that Mangini had in New York. Should be interesting to see how this shakes out.

ATLDirtyBirds
05-03-2009, 07:09 PM
Not too many battles here in the ATL.

OLB: Stephen Nicholas vs. Coy Wire

Mike Peterson has the other OLB spot all but locked up. On the other side, we've got Stephen Nicholas who has been a super versatile and impressive backup. Coaching staff loves him, and it's probably his turn to step up to the plate. Coy Wire saw some starting time when Boley got benched last year. Aggressive player who looked strong against the run. Nicholas has the early advantage.


SS: Thomas DeCoud vs. William Moore

Erik Coleman was very impressive with almost 100 tackles at FS last year. He's a lock to return to that spot. However, this matchup pins last years 3rd rounder, and this years second rounder. They are battling to replace one of our team leaders in Lawyer Milloy. DeCoud saw virtually no time last year except for ST. William Moore has big time potential, and is a guy we've appeared to be in love with the entire draft process. I'd be surprised if it wasn't Moore.

CB: Everyone.

Two guys are guaranteed a spot. They would be Chris Houston and Chevis Jackson. Houston's going to try and step up his game and be our #1 corner this year. Chevis was quite good last year, but really profiles as a nickel corner more than being on the outside. Other then that, we've got Von Hutchins who was a FA pickup last year that missed the whole season due to injury. Brent Grimes who wowed everyone in the preseason with his ability, but got beat up on in the regular season due to his lack of height. Christopher Owens who we just drafted in the 3rd round and who will be sporting #21, and William Middleton an intriguing stud athlete who we took in the 5th. That's going to be the real battle to watch out for.


Edit:

I can sneak one more in here.

Pass Rush Situation End: Jamaal Anderson vs. Challengers

Jamaal Anderson has been a massive bust thus far. He may be able to turn it around, but he's been extremely underwhelming as a pass rusher. He's been stout in the run game however, and we like him because of his ability to play DE and DT. He's going to be the starter because of his ability against the run. When we move to 3rd and long... that's up in the air. Either he steps up or he's going to be replaced. There's Kroy Biermann who has an extremely high motor and did a solid job against the pass last year. Chauncey Davis who is a backup end that we resigned. He can play RE or Jamaal's LE position. Final option would be my man Lawrence Sidbury Jr. 4th round draft pick with tremendous pass rush ability.

tjsunstein
05-03-2009, 07:16 PM
Tight End
Donald Lee - Started the past two years in Green Bay...11 combined TDs in that time...had a worse year statistically in 2008 than in 2007, although it wasn't really his fault
JerMichael Finley - 2008 3rd round pick from Texas...extremely raw coming out of college, but incredible potential...as expected did not contribute much as a rookie...looked lost for most of the year, but then improved late in the season

Prediction: Donald Lee - Finley won't be quite ready week 1. I think that Lee opens the season as the starter, but Finley will overtake him late in the year.

Fullback
Korey Hall - 2007 pick out of Boise State...was a LB in college that the Packers converted to a FB...started right away as a rookie...banged up last year and missed time...not too impressive...is now listed as a LB on nfl.com
John Kuhn - Picked up off of waivers from Pittsburgh before the season started in 2007...saw time in dual FB packeges with Hall at first, but then started taking reps away from Hall...started 2 fewer games than Hall last year, but probably saw the field more
Quinn Johnson - 2009 5th round pick...somewhat surprising of a pick because of Kuhn and Hall...same type of fullback as the other two...traditional blocking back...about 15 pounds lighter than Kuhn, but about the same size as Hall

Prediction: Quinn Johnson - Another one that I think the rookie takes it. I see Johnson starting, Kuhn as the second FB, and Hall cut.

#3 WR
James Jones - 2007 3rd round pick...came on real strong as a rookie...hit by injuries last year...missed 6 games and was banged up in the ones he did play in
Jordy Nelson - 2008 2nd round pick and first Packer's selection...decent rookie season...has a good connection with Aaron Rodgers

Prediction: Jordy Nelson - Not really a big deal here because both will see the field plenty. It's more of what packeges and personell we want on the field than who is the 3 and who is the 4. I put Nelson ahead simply because I think he'll catch more balls, but again it doesn't matter.

NT
Ryan Pickett - Started all 3 years in Green Bay in the Jim Bates' scheme...had a similar job and was asked to take on double teams in those years...6'2" 330...does not offer any pass rush
BJ Raji - 2009 9th overall pick...considered the best NT prospect since Haloti Ngata...6'1" 337...can take on multiple blockers and generate some inside pass rush

Prediction: Ryan Pickett - I think they'll let Pickett stay a starter. He will be heavily rotated with Raji though. Also both players will be tried at DE as rotational players there. Pickett probably gets the starting tag this year with Raji playing a lot as well.

Defensive End
Johnny Jolly - Was the starter at DT in the 4-3 the past two years...he's 320 pounds, but a better fit at DE in the 3-4 than NT...wasn't too impressive next year...still hasn't had his legal trouble settled yet...could miss up to 4 games because of that
Justin Harrell - 2007 first round pick...has been hit hard with injuries and hasn't had much of a chance because of that...only 13 games in two years as a pro...looked alright, but not impressive in his limited time last year...3-4 DE could suit him well if he can stay healthy

Prediction: Justin Harrell - Everyone loves to give Harrell the bust lable, but he is not a bust yet. He needs to stay healthy all of season and through the actual season so we can actually see what he can do. So far he is injury free and if he can keep it up he should be starting. I think he fits the role of 3-4 DE pretty well and should make the position switch with ease. If Harrell can prove himself we should have a nice 3-4 line for the next few years with him, Raji, and Jenkins.

I agree with your assessment of the Tight End position with Lee winning the starting job but I don't think Finley overtakes it at any point of the season. Finley's hands are way too inconsistent even though he is far superior to Lee athletically. Give Finley another year and he could emerge as the starter.

I couldn't have evaluated the FB situation better than that. I really like Hall but I think he's on his way out after the Johnson pick which is unfortunate since we made him the FB he is today. I don't expect him to be out of work too long either. Great transition from LB to FB.

The #3 WR position goes to a healthy James Jones. I want to stress healthy. He has been phenomenal when he sees the field. Doesn't hurt to have Baby Jesus as your 4th. Depending on the packages, we could see Jordy in though. I think they get the same playing time, just depends who comes out with better stats, I guess. We are set for when Driver decides its time. But by no means are we pushing him out the door.

The D-Line never really had guys that play the whole game outside of Kampman the last couple years. We rotate heavily to keep the legs fresh which I have no problem with. What's really being earned here is respect. The guy that goes onto the field first, the guy that has their name listed on the depth chart. Picket and Raji will probably split duties inside 55/45 in favor of Raji, IMO. Doesn't mean they won't both be on the field at the same time. I could see Raji being tested as DE in some situations as well as Pickett. I think the only starter for sure is Cullen Jenkins. I think the whole construction of the DL relies on how Harrell does at DE.

jkpigskin
05-03-2009, 08:13 PM
Baltimore Ravens:

ILB:

Tavares Gooden
Jason Phillips
Prescott Burgess

None of these guys have proven anything at the pro level. Gooden was injured after being drafted in the 3rd round last year, Burgess is coming off the practice squad and isn't even a lock to make the team and Jason Phillips is a fifth round pick from this year. When leaving the Ravens this offseason Bart Scott stated he thinks Prescott will be the one to step in for us, when asked the same question Ray Lewis said he thinks Gooden will be the starter. I think Gooden has the edge in this race just based on where he was drafted at.

RT:

Willie Anderson
Michael Oher

I think Willie Anderson takes this to start the year but I really don't see him holding on to it for the entire season, if he doesn't stay healthy Oher will come in and snatch this position and never let go.

RG:

Marshall Yanda
Chris Chester

This may not be much of a battle but Yanda missed the majority of last year and Chris Chester proved that he was not an absolute bust with the playing time he was given. But as long as Yanda stays healthy I think the job is his.

#3 & #4 WR:

Demetrius Williams
Marcus Smith
Justin Harper
Eron Riley
Yamon Figurs

Demetrius is a lock for the #3 spot if he can stay healthy, which is never guaranteed since the guy has been an injury risk at every level. If he holds on to the #3 spot, 2nd year WR Marcus Smith will probably be in the lead for the #4 spot on the depth chart but he didn't exactly show much, if anything in his rookie campaign. Justin Harper is currently on the PS but with our extreme lack of depth at WR he could conceivably break onto the team. Yamon Figurs has shown almost 0 WR ability. Eron Riley is a UDFA out of Duke who has all the physical attributes to be an NFL WR (6'3 200 lbs, sub 4.4 40) has an outside shot at making the team but he's going to impress big time in camp. I think he is an off brand version of Darrius Heyward Bey. I wouldn't be surprised to see us bring a WR in that isn't currently on the roster.

I am probably forgetting a battle somewhere else but these are the ones that stick out to me at the moment.

i like Gooden winning the job this year, but Jason Phillips really intrigues me. Remember the last time the ravens drafted a fast but maybe not athletic LB? ray lewis has shown that, that assessment was far off... for right now though, i see him as a contributor on special teams

I feel that we will keep Willie Anderson for one more season but i can see Michael Oher starting by seasons end and not seeing another name in that spot for the next 10 years.

2 more battles that the ravens may have is for nickle, dime, and kick return specialist.
For nickle, we would have samari rolle and chris carr as the favorites with frank walker and draft pick Ladarius Webb filling out the rest of the depth chart.
As for the return game, Yamon Figurs' days as a raven are limited as he has not lived up to this 3rd round picking. He has great speed (4.3 40), but plays scared and is more of a runner than a football player. We brought in Chris Carr who has a good history as a return man and Webb who has great speed and returned kicks in college. Whoever wins will be an upgrade

Brodeur
05-03-2009, 08:40 PM
Detroit Lions (this is going to take a while)

Quarterback
Daunte Culpepper vs. Matt Stafford: I really doubt Stafford starts right away, but if he wows at camp then you can never really know. There's a 95 percent chance Culpepper is the starter in Week 1, but it's just a question of how long he really starts.

Wide Receiver: 2-5
Bryant Johnson vs Ronald Curry vs Derrick Williams vs John Standeford vs Adam Jennings: Honestly, I don't really know what the **** is going on here. I'm assuming that Bryant Johnson has the inside track as the starter opposite of Jesus, but if Curry plays really well during camp and so forth he could take it away. Standeford had a couple of decent games at the end last year when the Lions were down to absolutely nothing next to Jesus, and given a strong camp he could make the team as a 4th/5th receiver but that's about it. I expect Williams to start at the bottom of the depth chart and attempt to work his way up from there while contributing in the return game. Jennings might make the roster as a special teams guy.

PREDICTION: WR2- Bryant Johnson WR3- Ronald Curry WR4- Standeford WR5- Derrick Williams for the beginning of the season

Fullback
Terrelle Smith vs. Jon Bradley vs. Jerome Felton: I honestly don't know if this is actually a battle or if Smith has the position locked up at this point really. Bradley is just a big body guy who occupies space and I really don't see him starting but I just put him there for the hell of it. Smith is a solid blocking back and I expect that he'll getting this job rather easily specifically as a blocker. Felton is more of a big bodied RB and I think he sucks.

PREDICTION: Smith

Left Guard/Right Guard
Damion Cook vs. Manny Ramirez vs. Daniel Loper vs. George Foster vs. Stephen Peterman vs. James Blair: Right guard will probably be sadly taken by Peterman again, although Manny Ramirez could take it if he shows enough improvement over a lackluster season last year, or George Foster could take it if he shows some sort of new initiative and the new regime tries him at guard. As for left guard, I honestly have no ******* idea whatsoever. Loper was a valuable backup for the Titans for a few years and I suppose he's the starter by default for now. I don't really think Cook or Blair are anything more than backups if they even make it.

PREDICTION: Peterman at RG (sigh)/Loper at LG

Defensive end
Jared DeVries vs. Cliff Avril vs Ikaika-Alama Francis: This is for the starting position opposite of Dewayne White as I really doubt he doesn't end up starting. I think DeVries is the starter as of the beginning of camp, but I really see no way that Avril doesn't win this position, as he started to come on at the end of last year and seems to have a decent future. IAF really hasn't shown or done anything and I don't expect that to change any time soon, and was just a dumb ******* Rod Marinelli kind of pick.

PREDICTION: Cliff Avril

Undertackle
Andre Fluellen vs. Sammie Lee Hill vs. Landon Cohen vs. Chuck Darby: If Chuck Darby ends up starting next to Grady Jackson I will ******* murder someone. Darby is a fat piece of crap that does nothing well so I'll scratch him off. Cohen will probably spend another year on the practice squad as he is quite undersized for a DT and the only way he makes the team is as a third down specialist. Sammie Lee Hill is a longshot to start immediately but he could make a difference down the line as Grady grooms him. I'm basically just giving this to Fluellen by default because Darby sucks so much and he's athletic enough to take over for Cory Redding.

PREDICTION: Fluellen

Cornerback
Phillip Buchanan vs. Travis Fischer vs. Eric King vs. Dexter Wynn vs. Keith Smith vs. Anthony Henry vs. Ramzee Robinson: Right now, there is no real starter out of the group but I sure as **** hope Fischer isn't there at the beginning. I think Buchanan right now will probably be the number 1 corner as he is the only real option there at this point. Henry (unless he moves to safety) will likely be the number 2 corner at the start of camp and remain throughout unless he completely struggles. Wynn is camp fodder and has no real future on the team. Eric King will be the special teams ace, and could be the number 2 if Henry struggles, but he will be the nickel unless he gets outplayed by Keith Smith in camp. Since Smith has remained on this team so damn long despite being mediocre I have some sort of undying loyalty to him, so I think he will stay on as a 5th corner and contribute to a certain extent on special teams. I think the sleeper is Gerald Alexander, who I think loses the safety battle and ends up becoming the dime back sooner or later this season.

PREDICTION: CB1- Buchanan CB2- Henry CB3- King CB4- Gerald Alexander

Safety
Gerald Alexander vs. Daniel Bullocks vs. Louis Delmas vs. Kelvin Pearson: I think the main problem here is that Alexander is probably the true free safety option, but I just don't see him beating out Bullocks or Delmas. He struggled significantly before his injury last year and barring a major turn around, I don't see him starting at safety. I suppose I just listed Pearson for the sake of it, but I think there's a .00001 percent chance he starts over Delmas or Bullocks, and will probably just be a special teamer yet again. Bullocks had spurts of good play last year and playing next to a legitimate safety (albeit a rookie) in Delmas could really help him out.

PREDICTION: SS- Daniel Bullocks FS- Louis Delmas

Inside Linebacker
Jordan Dizon vs. DeAndre Levy vs. Alex Lewis vs. Cody Spencer vs. Chris Graham vs. Zack Follett: This is a cluster **** of epic proportions. I basically just listed every linebacker on the roster besides Sims and Peterson because I don't have a ******* clue who starts. Dizon is fast and useless at every other trait. Levy has to convert to ILB and will face some struggles, but I'd probably take him over anyone else on the list. Lewis has been on the team forever and he's been nothing more than a backup to all three positions and a good special teams guy, so it's possible (very small) that he wins this battle but he'll more than likely just backup Peterson on the strong side. I really doubt Chris Graham ever starts anywhere in this league and is more or less just camp fodder. Cody Spencer could win the job as the free agent signing from the Jets, but I don't see him playing as a third down guy. I'd love to see Follett win the job just for laughs, but I doubt it'll happen.

PREDICTION: Dizon for nickel, Levy for the first two downs

phenomenal_waffles
05-03-2009, 08:51 PM
Denver Broncos

Starting QB

Kyle Orton vs. Chris Simms vs. Tom Brandstater

The Edge: Kyle Orton - Just the kind of low arm strength scrub that McDaniels loves. He is the definition of a game manager. Won many games in Chicago due to their top defense. Sadly, that's exactly what Denver lacks. But luckily, the Spread offense is a very QB friendly system. I mean, look at what McDaniels did with Matt Cassel. Cassel is basically a poor man's Kyle Orton. Orton will perform well because of the offensive talent around him, as well as the Spread offense.


Starting RB

Knowshon Moreno vs Correll Buckhalter vs. J.J. Arrington vs. LaMont Jordan vs. Ryan Torain

The Edge: Knowshon Moreno - Considered the top RB in the draft, he was a star at Georgia. Many thought negative of this selection, but McDaniels grabbed the perfect pass catching halfback for the Spread offense. Should win the starting job.


4th string WR

Jabar Gaffney vs. Chad Jackson vs. Kenny McKinley

The Edge: Jabar Gaffney - Because of the Spread offense, the 4th string WR becomes an important part of the offense, and usually sees the field quite a bit. Jabar Gaffney played this role in New England, and what do you know, McDaniels signs him. Obviously McDaniels deems this guy worthy of this spot on the depth chart.


Staring RE

Marcus Thomas vs. Kenny Peterson vs. Carlton Powell vs. Robert Ayers

The Edge: Kenny Peterson - Kenny Peterson was already released twice in 2007 by Denver. But, last year he was signed again last year. That's basically the definition of our D-line. Peterson has only managed three sacks in his three year career, and has disappointed his #79th overall selection. I really don't have much to say about this guy. I'm ashamed that he will most likely be a starter on our team, unless Robert Ayers has a good training camp. Peterson will join our mostly out of position D-line as a starter.


Starting LE

Marcus Thomas vs. Kenny Peterson vs. Carlton Powell

The Edge: Marcus Thomas - Marcus Thomas has been a solid defensive tackle for Denver. But alas, we are changing to a 34 scheme, which f*cked up our entire front 7. Thomas will start at LE by default because he is bigger than Kenny Peterson.


Starting NT

Ronald Fields vs. Chris Baker vs. J'Vonne Parker

The Edge: Ronald Fields - To be honest, I don't have the slightest clue who will win this battle. I like Chris Baker, but he is a rookie, as well a UDFA, so the job will most likely go to a proven vet. Ronald Fields is supposedly better than J'Vonne Parker though. Maybe if Baker has a good camp, he will start, but for now all I can say is Fields has the edge.


Starting LOLB

Jarvis Moss vs. Darrell Reid vs. Tim Crowder vs. Wesley Woodyard

The Edge: Jarvis Moss - Jarvis Moss should definitely not be given up on. People judge him because of his minimal success, but its mainly because of the position he played. He played LE in the 43 scheme, which is no place for him. 43 LEs have to play against the bigger RTs, and support the run. Jarvis Moss' biggest weakness is playing the run. He is still a great talent, and Denver was basically wasting it. But its not Denver's fault, because they weren't gonna bench Elvis Dumervil. Jarvis Moss' best position would be playing 34 ROLB, but again, Dumervil is too good to even have a rotation with. Moss will again have to face the bigger RTs. But playing from a standing up position will definitely be for the better, and allow him to be a more elusive pass rusher. McDaniels could care less though, as he was being shopped for a 7th round pick.


Starting LILB

Boss Bailey vs. Andra Davis vs. Wesley Woodyard

The Edge: Boss Bailey - This battle is basically a battle of who sucks less. Andra Davis is an old scrub, but he has more experience in the 34. Boss Bailey is younger and a better talent, but has never played in the 34. To be honest, I think Wesley Woodyard should start, cause he's a stud. But McDaniels could care less.


Starting Strong Safety

Renaldo Hill vs. Josh Barrett vs. Herana Daze-Jones

The Edge: Josh Barrett - Renaldo Hill is a proven player, but is old and sucks now. I believe the signing of him was just an insurance signing. Josh Barrett played well last year and went really unnoticed. I honestly think its his job too lose, not open competition.


Nickelback

Alphonso Smith vs. Jack Williams vs. Dominique Johnson

The Edge: Alphonso Smith - Probably the most interesting battle this year, the Nickelback position is almost up in the air. There are many sides to this to account for. Jack Williams is the most pro ready of the bunch, but McDaniels has no ties to him, so he may care less. Dominique Johnson is the most talented, but he is very raw and might not be ready just yet. Alphonso Smith definitely takes this one for a number of reasons. For one, Smith is the prototype Nickelback. His small stature and top notch ball skills are perfect for the position. Another reason is that McDaniels obviously loves this guy, as he traded our 2010 1st round pick just to get this guy. But alas, he isn't guaranteed to start, as he will have some much competition.

M.O.T.H.
05-03-2009, 08:56 PM
I don't know that Dallas will be having many position battles this year, I think Austin is going to get that #2 WR spot, and Sensabaugh is a starter now too, but that 2nd CB spot is certainly open for grabs between Scandrick and Jenkins.


2nd CB:

Mike Jenkins
Orlando Scandrick



Jenkins played outside as a rookie, and Scandrick played the slot and Scandrick had a better year overall, more consistent and he showed some flashes of a young Newman covering the slot...Both guys will see the field a bit because we run quite a bit of Nickle but Scandrick is still pushing to start opposite T-New.


I prefer Jenkins outside, I think he does too, he can play more bump and run from the outside and he was excellent when he could get physical and run with the WR alot like Al Harris...His off man and zone coverage got better as the year went on and he's still got a tremendous amount of potential.


The team flirted with the idea of moving Scandrick to FS in some sets just to get him on the field more but now that Sensabaugh was signed we can let him play his natural spot at corner and his coverage skills and tenacity on the field are easy to notice when you watch him play...He plays with a chip on his shoulder, and so much confidence, two things that I haven't seen in Jenkins yet.

I think the only legitimate position battle is for the #2 receiver position. Miles certainly has all the momentum and that is who the coaches obviously want to win it but, Crayton and Hurd do pose stiff competition. While Austin probably will win, I wouldnt be surprised to see any of three win it.

#2 corner job is Jenkins'. I would be pretty shocked if Scandrick took it. That's not to say that Scandrick couldnt start but, Jenkins has the upper hand here. Given draft position, he too is the guy the coaches will be rooting for most, I'm sure.

derza222
05-03-2009, 09:34 PM
For the Jets:

Quarterback Well, this is going to be the battle that will get almost all of the attention by the local media, with new media favorite Mark Sanchez going up against Kellen Clemens. Sanchez will be given every opportunity to win the job, but Clemens has worked very hard this offseason and was supposedly quite impressive in minicamp. He's got 4 years of experience in this offense which should give him an edge over Sanchez in the competition from that perspective. Whoever takes care of the ball better will probably win the competition unless the other player really wows the entire coaching staff. While I think Sanchez ends up getting the starting spot because Clemens can struggle at times and there will probably be riots in NY if Clemens beats him out, I think Clemens is going to give him a lot more of a fight than people give him credit for. Ryan makes it seem like Sanchez is the favorite, but Schottenheimer keeps dropping hints that Clemens still has a shot. Despite that, I'll be surprised if Sanchez isn't the starting QB week 1.

#2 WR/Slot WR This should come down to David Clowney, Brad Smith, and Chansi Stuckey. Clowney has fantastic speed and can really get open downfield, Ryan has praised him on multiple occasions and seems to really like him. Seems like his route running has improved and he's not just a deep threat. Smith is obviously a fantastic athlete who Ryan has both praised (for being a fantastic athlete) and called out (saying he needs to step up this year). The organization seems to have a lot of faith in these two and think that one of them will be able to step up and do well in a starting role next year. Stuckey cannot be counted out because he has very good hands and quickness and is a decent route runner, but seems better suited for the slot. Clowney seems to have the edge right now to get the starting job. He can add some much needed speed and ability to get deep to the offense, but Smith has a shot with his good speed and superior size. His hands and route running have been suspect in the past though, so unless they improve I think he will end up in the #4 spot getting some time as a slash player with Stuckey and Keller getting most of the time in the slot.

Defensive End Shaun Ellis will be starting on one side, but after trading Kenyon Coleman who the other starting end will be is a little up in the air. I'd imagine the battle to start across from Ellis will come down to Marques Douglas and Mike DeVito. Douglas has done a lot over the years very quietly (leads the NFL in TFL's since a certain year that slips my mind) and knows Ryan and his system pretty well from their time in Baltimore. DeVito is a hard working end who made the team as a UDFA coming out of Maine I believe and has stuck around the past couple of years as a backup. He's shown flashes and supposedly the coaching staff really likes him. I think Douglas has a significant edge to start right now, but wouldn't be shocked if DeVito takes over the starting spot before the season is over.

Nickel corner Should pretty much come down to Dwight Lowery and Donald Strickland. Lowery had some great games last year, and also got burned at times. We brought Ty Law in last year to start in his place, which says enough about his level of play. Still, he makes big plays with solid ball skills and a knack for forcing fumbles. Strickland was signed and apparently Ryan really likes him. Nothing the team did this offseason at corner really seemed like a vote of confidence for Lowery, so I'd give the edge to Strickland. Disappointing though, Lowery can definitely be a player in the right system. Perhaps his lack of speed can be covered a little by playing in the slot and by his intelligence, but I don't think he's going to get an opportunity to do much in the new system.


Other possibilities include Thomas Jones getting benched for Shonn Green and Bryan Thomas getting benched for Gholston or one of our lesser known OLB's. Both are pretty unlikely unless Gholston explodes...which is pretty unlikely. Jones could take a step back though, and the coaching staff really likes Greene. Think his issues with his hands and pass blocking will keep him out of the starting lineup till 2010 though.

Grizzlegom
05-03-2009, 09:34 PM
Miami Dolphins

CB2: Jason Allen vs. Eric Green vs. Vontae Davis vs. Sean Smith

Jason Allen has been a bust since we drafted him in the first round a few years ago and this is his last chance to prove his worth. Eric Green was the nickelback for the cardinals last year after losing his starting job to DRC. Vontae Davis and Sean Smith are the newcomers. This is really for the number two job and the nickel job as, after Will Allen, nothing is certain.
Prediction: Vontae Davis starts and Eric Green in the nickel. Jason Allen sticks because he has actually been good on ST and Sean Smith gets some looks as our dime safety cause Gibril is a liability in coverage.

RG: Donald Thomas vs. Ike Ndukwe vs. Joe Berger

Donald Thomas won the starting job out of training camp last here despite being a sixth rounder but got hurt in the first game and Ndukwe started pretty much every game since then. Ndukwe was a journeyman second year player that we tried to replace every game but for some reason we couldn't find anyone that could play guard better than him. Berger was signed in the offseason to compete for a starting position at RG or C.
Prediction: Thomas has already shown he's 100% healthy and will probably get his job back, Ndukwe gets cut in the final roster trim, and Berger is the top backup at all three interior positions.

WR: Ted Ginn vs Greg Camarillo vs. Patrick Turner vs. Ernest Wilford vs. Davone Bess vs Brandon London vs Brian Hartline

The entire receiving corps is so up in the air that any two of these guys could end up being starters. Ginn is the "star" of the bunch that probably won't get benched no matter what. Greg Camarillo was our most productive receiver last year prior to his injury but word is his rehab isn't going so well and I think he'll probably start the year on the PUP. Turner and Wilford are big possession receivers that Pennington needs but Wilford was so bad last year he was only active for 4 games. Turner and Hartline were widely considered huge reaches and Bess is a year removed from going undrafted although he played very well in the slot.
Prediction: Ginn ends up being the number one. With Camarillo on the PUP, Bess ends up our number two to start out. Turner comes on the field in three receiver sets, allowing Bess to work the slot where he belongs, Hartline and London fill out the roster.

ROLB: Matt Roth vs. Cameron Wake

Although this probably isn't a real position battle (at least not in the Dolphins' eyes) if Wake can play like he did in Canada, Miami will be hard pressed to keep him off the field. I could see a platoon happening sooner than later with Roth being in on run downs and Wake stepping in for him during passing situations.

Dam8610
05-03-2009, 10:04 PM
For the Colts...

#3 WR
Lead Candidate: Pierre Garcon
Main Competition: Austin Collie
Darkhorse candidate: Roy Hall

Garcon will likely win the spot, but Collie seems a perfect slot receiver, and the Colts used a 4th on him for a reason.

OG
Lead Candidates: Ryan Lilja, Mike Pollak
Main Competition: Steve Justice, Jamie Richard, Charlie Johnson
Darkhorse Candidates: Cornelius Lewis, Jaimie Thomas, Kyle DeVan, Tom Pestock

Right now, I can't imagine OG as anything but a wide open competition since Lilja restructured his contract and the team brought in 4 OGs over draft weekend. I think Pollak will win one of the two spots, but if Lilja doesn't recover, I think the other spot is a wide open competition for anyone to win.

NT
Lead Candidate: Antonio Johnson
Main Competition: Terrance Taylor
Darkhorse Candidate: Daniel Muir

The Colts drafted Taylor for a reason, but they already have a good NT candidate on the team in Johnson. I think what will end up happening here is similar to what will happen at RB: these two will rotate quite a bit.

That's all I can think of really. I think some Colts fans might consider either or both of the OLB spots as camp battles, but I think after releasing Keiaho and Hagler, the Colts have made it clear they think Session and Wheeler will be the better starters.

TitanHope
05-03-2009, 10:53 PM
Tennessee Titans

3rd RB: Javon Ringer / Chris Henry / Quinton Ganther / Rafael Little

Both Henry and Ganther made the final roster last season, but Henry was inactive for most of the games and Ganther is a special teams/emergency fullback player. Ringer was a 5th RD pick this past Draft, and Little was an '08 UDFA that spent the entire season on the practice squad. Henry has a chance of being cut if he doesn't live up to his 2nd RD billing. Ganther has been a presence on the PS for the past few seasons prior to last year, and if he doesn't win the spot, will likely go back there unless another team signs him. Little is in the same situation. Ringer has the best chance of the group to make it. 4 RB's made last year's roster, so there is a chance that happens again.

Tight End: Bo Scaife / Alge Crumpler / Craig Stevens / Jared Cook

There's a bit of a log jam at TE, but all 4 of these guys have a good chance of making the roster. The only possible casualty could be Crumpler, but that's only if '08 3rd RD pick Stevens and '09 3rd RD pick Cook just blow him out of the water. That's unlikely, so this is really a battle for playing time.

4th WR: Paul Williams / Lavelle Hawkins / Chris Davis / Mark Jones / Dominique Edison / Dudley Guice

This is anybody's shot. The top of the WR's depth chart is cemented with Justin Gage, Nate Washington, and Kenny Britt. I wish I could provide insight, but I really have no ******* clue. Paul Williams, a '07 3rd RD'er, was active for more games last year than Hawk, a '08 4th RD'er, or Davis, an '07 4th RD'er, because he's the best on ST's coverage, but when Gage and Justin McCareins were injured, it was Hawkins and not Williams who started at WR. Davis and Mark Jones, a FA from Carolina, are returners who'll have to win a roster spot that way. Edison was a 6th RD pick from the '09 Draft, and Guice was an UDFA who is everyone's sleeper pick. Special teams could very well decide who makes it and who doesn't.

Backup/Swing OT: Mike Otto / Troy Kropog

Daniel Loper went to Detroit in FA, and he was the backup OT who would swing inside and play OG if need be. Otto was an '08 7th RD'er who spent last season on the PS, and Kropog was a 4th RD pick in the '09 Draft. Edge goes to Kropog, but Otto has a chance.

Backup/Special Teams OLB: Colin Allred / Josh Stamer

Both made the roster last season, but with the drafting of Gerald McRath, one of them may lose his spot. Stamer is the better special teamer, and Allred is the better player. Both are UDFA's, with Allred being younger. Edge goes to Allred.

4th CB: Ryan Mouton / DeMarcus Faggins / Jason McCourty / Cary Williams / Tuff Harris

Faggins was brought in during FA, and Mouton and McCourty were Draft picks in the '09 Draft. Cary Williams was an '08 7th RD'er, and a PS guy last season. Tuff Harris was brought onto the roster last season when Nick Harper and Eric King were injured. 3 have a chance to make the roster, and the two who don't likely go to the PS. Edge to Mouton and Faggins.

Kick Returner/Punt Returner: Mark Jones / Ryan Mouton / Chris Davis

I hold my breath whenever Davis goes back to field a punt. He's mishandled it too many times for my taste. Jones apparently did solid in Carolina, and Mouton is capable of it too. Edge goes to Jones, and if Mouton impresses, then Davis may be let go.

White Safety Who Only Plays Special Teams: Donnie Nickey / Nick Schommer

Gitcho popcorn ready!

ironman4579
05-04-2009, 12:07 AM
Cornerback
Phillip Buchanan vs. Travis Fischer vs. Eric King vs. Dexter Wynn vs. Keith Smith vs. Anthony Henry vs. Ramzee Robinson: Right now, there is no real starter out of the group but I sure as **** hope Fischer isn't there at the beginning. I think Buchanan right now will probably be the number 1 corner as he is the only real option there at this point. Henry (unless he moves to safety) will likely be the number 2 corner at the start of camp and remain throughout unless he completely struggles. Wynn is camp fodder and has no real future on the team. Eric King will be the special teams ace, and could be the number 2 if Henry struggles, but he will be the nickel unless he gets outplayed by Keith Smith in camp. Since Smith has remained on this team so damn long despite being mediocre I have some sort of undying loyalty to him, so I think he will stay on as a 5th corner and contribute to a certain extent on special teams. I think the sleeper is Gerald Alexander, who I think loses the safety battle and ends up becoming the dime back sooner or later this season.

PREDICTION: CB1- Buchanan CB2- Henry CB3- King CB4- Gerald Alexander



The Lions released Fischer on the 1st actually, so no need to worry about him.

LonghornsLegend
05-04-2009, 12:12 AM
#2 corner job is Jenkins'. I would be pretty shocked if Scandrick took it. That's not to say that Scandrick couldnt start but, Jenkins has the upper hand here. Given draft position, he too is the guy the coaches will be rooting for most, I'm sure.

Their not just going to hand it to him because he was a 1st rounder, I like Jenkins alot too, always have but he has to earn it. Scandrick out played him last year, and he played well on the outside too, if he continues to out play him they won't hand Jenkins the starting spot without earning it.


I agree the #2 WR position is probably a battle still that I didn't list just because I assumed Austin will have that, but it isn't set it stone yet.

thetedginnshow
05-04-2009, 12:18 AM
#2 WR/Slot WR This should come down to David Clowney, Brad Smith, and Chansi Stuckey. Clowney has fantastic speed and can really get open downfield, Ryan has praised him on multiple occasions and seems to really like him. Seems like his route running has improved and he's not just a deep threat. Smith is obviously a fantastic athlete who Ryan has both praised (for being a fantastic athlete) and called out (saying he needs to step up this year). The organization seems to have a lot of faith in these two and think that one of them will be able to step up and do well in a starting role next year. Stuckey cannot be counted out because he has very good hands and quickness and is a decent route runner, but seems better suited for the slot. Clowney seems to have the edge right now to get the starting job. He can add some much needed speed and ability to get deep to the offense, but Smith has a shot with his good speed and superior size. His hands and route running have been suspect in the past though, so unless they improve I think he will end up in the #4 spot getting some time as a slash player with Stuckey and Keller getting most of the time in the slot.

I actually don't think Stuckey will be in it at all. Like you alluded to, it's pretty clear he's best in the slot, and I don't think he offers them enough as a speed threat or big run blocker to really be in competition. But it certainly doesn't sound that great when all the guys contending for the spot were drafted on the second day.

Menardo75
05-04-2009, 12:44 AM
Just to add to the Niners even though Dashon Goldson has been named the starter at FS I think Reggie Smith will give him a run for his money.

TitanHope
05-04-2009, 12:54 AM
Cornerback
Phillip Buchanan vs. Travis Fischer vs. Eric King vs. Dexter Wynn vs. Keith Smith vs. Anthony Henry vs. Ramzee Robinson: Right now, there is no real starter out of the group but I sure as **** hope Fischer isn't there at the beginning. I think Buchanan right now will probably be the number 1 corner as he is the only real option there at this point. Henry (unless he moves to safety) will likely be the number 2 corner at the start of camp and remain throughout unless he completely struggles. Wynn is camp fodder and has no real future on the team. Eric King will be the special teams ace, and could be the number 2 if Henry struggles, but he will be the nickel unless he gets outplayed by Keith Smith in camp. Since Smith has remained on this team so damn long despite being mediocre I have some sort of undying loyalty to him, so I think he will stay on as a 5th corner and contribute to a certain extent on special teams. I think the sleeper is Gerald Alexander, who I think loses the safety battle and ends up becoming the dime back sooner or later this season.

PREDICTION: CB1- Eric King CB2- Buchanan CB3- Henry CB4- Gerald Alexander

I fixed that for you, and you shall be a wiser man for it. :cool:

derza222
05-04-2009, 01:29 AM
I actually don't think Stuckey will be in it at all. Like you alluded to, it's pretty clear he's best in the slot, and I don't think he offers them enough as a speed threat or big run blocker to really be in competition. But it certainly doesn't sound that great when all the guys contending for the spot were drafted on the second day.

Really the only reason I included Stuckey at all in the conversation for the #2 spot is because I think he's more of a sure thing than either of the guys. He can at least consistently catch the football and is more proven at this point than Clowney. If Smith continues to have the dropsies and Clowney gets hurt/ends up being more raw than people anticipate Stuckey could get the job by default because he's solid at the very least. But outside of that I'd say he's out of it.

And really, if it comes down to Stuckey potentially starting I think Tannenbaum goes out and tries to bring in somebody. I think he's pretty much guaranteed to be in the slot, but there's so much uncertainty with the other two guys I kind of felt obligated to throw him in there.

irishbucsfan
05-04-2009, 05:51 AM
Just to add to DJC's post, Greg Petersen is being geared towards playing DT in Bates' scheme - he was asked to put on weight and last I heard he's put it on to the tune of being up from ~285lbs to 310lbs now. He's 6'5 so my guess is they want a little more on top of that to maximise his leverage, since he has a big frame.

Don't mean to nitpick, I look forward to seeing your thoughts on the other position battles. The defensive side is really an opportunist's playground this year, since Raheem reckons we've had some talent further down the depth chart and wants to give everyone a fair shot in their position battles.

M.O.T.H.
05-04-2009, 06:34 AM
Their not just going to hand it to him because he was a 1st rounder, I like Jenkins alot too, always have but he has to earn it. Scandrick out played him last year, and he played well on the outside too, if he continues to out play him they won't hand Jenkins the starting spot without earning it.


I agree the #2 WR position is probably a battle still that I didn't list just because I assumed Austin will have that, but it isn't set it stone yet.

I didnt say they would hand it to Jenkins...but the very fact that he was a 1st rounder gives him the edge. Even though he was outplayed last year by Scandrick, Jenkins is the the projected starter and gets the first shot at starting...and as far as front office/coaches go, you want your money to pay off. Jenkins has a lot going for him, in this "battle". Regardless of all that, though...I'd expect Jenkins to earn it anyway with his play.

Gotta love how we sit at corner right now. Could be one injury away from disaster but, the core guys are all outstanding. As sad as it sounds, though...Jenkins/Scandrick are bound to be starting opposite eachother sometime during this season. Given Newman's injury history.

Caddy
05-04-2009, 06:45 AM
Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Starting Quaterback
Luke McCown - Trade in '06. 67.6% Completion, 1009 Yards, 5 TD:3 INT, 91.7 QB Rating in '07
vs.
Byron Leftwich - FA '09. 58.3% Completion, 303 Yards, 2 TD:0 INT, 104.3 QB Rating in '08
vs.
Josh Freeman - 2009 11th Overall Pick
McCown has the edge going into camp. There were rumors about Leftwich just being signed as a smokescreen for the draft, and there were rumors about Leftwich being signed because McCown looked bad in the first mini-camp. Believe what you want, but from what I initially read was that McCown was giving Jim Bates' defense fits in the first camp. I do not think that the team will rush Freeman into the starting role. If he impresses the coaches though through training camp, the job could be his. Raheem has stated multiple times its an open competition and also that the starter will be named by the team's 3rd preseason game.

#3 Wide Receiver
Maurice Stovall - '06 3rd Round Draft Pick. 20 Receptions, 213 Yards, 10.7 YPC, 1 TD for Career
vs.
Dexter Jackson - '08 2nd Round Draft Pick.
vs.
Sammie Stroughter - '09 7th Round Draft Pick.
vs.
Kelly Campbell - '09 FA. 54 Receptions, 1,223 Yards, 22.6 YPC, 7 TDs in CFL '08

Antonio Bryant and Michael Clayton pretty much have the #1 and #2 spots locked up. Maurice Stovall probably has the edge going into camp for #3, but this is pretty much a wide open race. Stovall has been with the team the longest, but the production hasn't been there yet. He could win the job if he proves to be effective in Jagodzinski's offense. Dexter was a huge disappoint his rookie year and didn't look like anything special in the limited time he had returning kicks. However, Raheem has come out and said that Dexter realized all this and has been working harder than ever trying to get better and earn his spot. If he shows some flashes of what he was supposed to be as a 2nd round pick, he could be the starting slot to begin the season. Stroughter and Campbell are two underdogs for the job. Both are big play threats that have just joined the team this offseason. Campbell, who had some stints with the Dolphins and the Vikings in the L, was in the CFL last year and showed his big play ability with 22+ yards per catch and 7 tds. He's a deep threat, something we've been lacking, who has more NFL experience than any other player listed here. Stroughter is one of my personal favorite draft picks from this class, and apparently Raheem feels the same way. He impressed the coaches early on in the rookie mini-camp this weekend. Here's one of the quotes from Raheem: "Stroughter's been one of the pleasant surprises of the camp," coach Raheem Morris said. "You talk about mentally tough, talk about a guy who can go inside and make plays and get vertical, he's impressive. I like everything about him." Rah' has also gone on record saying he likes projects. Given that and his high praise for the 7th rounder, it may not be too far fetched that he walks out of camp with the job.

Starting Right Tackle
Jeremy Trueblood - '06 2nd Round Pick
vs.
Jeremy Zuttah - '08 3rd Round Pick

Trueblood's spot probably isn't in danger, but there has been some speculation among Buc fans about Zuttah possibly overtaking him. Opinions on Trueblood vary from fan to fan, some call for his head and some love his toughness. Zuttah does have a couple things going for him though. He started 5 games last year and was pretty good, so he has the experience. Also, we have a new OC and OLine coach, and we'll be making the change to a ZBS with them. So the coaches don't really have any previous bias to the starters and the competition could be pretty open. Zutah could impress the coaches being a better fit in a ZBS, and he may impress them to the point where they make the switch.

Starting Left End
Stylez G. White - FA '07. 40 Tackles, 5 Sacks, 1 PD, 1 FF in '08
vs.
Jimmy Wilkerson - FA '08. 28 Tackles, 5 Sacks, 2 PD, 1 FF in '08
vs.
Kyle Moore - 4th Round Draft Pick in '09.
vs.
Greg Peterson - 5th Round Draft Pick in '07.

This is another pretty open race for '09 with Kevin Carter gone. White had a breakout season in '07, but regreseed a bit in '08 and is old for a 3rd year player due to his AFL stint. Wilkerson was a FA pick-up last year and played pretty good last season as a back-up and even started one game. Usually 4th round rookie DEs don't start, but Moore has a legit chance if he catches on quick. Peterson is a former undersized DT drafted as a project for our T2, but now with the switch to Bates' defense he doesn't really fit inside. he'll likely make the switch to DE this year, and if the Bucs official website's roster means anything he already did. Too early to really tell here.

Starting Defensive Tackle
Chris Hovan - '05 FA. 69 Tackles, 4 TFL, 1 Sack, 1 PD in '08
vs.
Ryan Sims - Trade in '07. 27 Tackles, 3 TFL, 1.5 Sack, 2 PD in '08
vs.
Dre Moore - 4th Round Pick in '08.
vs.
Roy Miller - 3rd Round Pick in '09.


Starting Outside Linebackers
Angelo Crowell - FA '09. 140 Tackles in '07. IR in '08.
vs.
Jermaine Phillips - 5th Round Pick in '02. Former Safety who may make the switch to LB.
vs.
Quincy Black - 3rd Round Pick in '07. 2 Defensive Tackles, 24 Special Teams Tackles in '08.
vs.
Geno Hayes - 6th Round Pick in '08. 8 Defensive Tackles, 7 Special Teams Tackles, and 1 PD in '08.
vs.
Adam Hayward - 6th Round Pick in '07. 5 Defensive Tackles, 12 Special Teams Tackles in '08.


#2 Cornerback
Ronde Barber - 3rd Round Pick in '97. 100 Tackles, 4 INTs, 16 PD in '08.
vs.
Elbert Mack - UDFA in '08.

Dime Cornerback
Torrie Cox - 6th Round Pick in '06. 35 Tackles, 1 INT, 4 PD, 1 TD for Career.
vs.
E.J. Biggers - 7th Round Pick in '09.
vs.
DeAngelo Willingham - UDFA in '09.


**** we look like a mess on paper. I didn't realize it'd be this much, I'll finish later.

The battle at receiver goes pretty deep to be honest. After Bryant and Clayton, the depth chart could be filled out in any number of different ways in my opinion.

I also severely doubt that Zuttah battles for the right tackle job in training camp. He is a versatile lineman but he has seen the vast majority of his time in Tampa Bay at the guard position (with the other marginal percentage being at center).

Greg Peterson is almost certainly battling for a roster spot at DT so I'd take him out of the analysis. He has bulked up to well over 300 pounds (and definitely fits now!) so I'd expect him to get a shot at playing time next to Ryan Sims.

Again I really doubt Mack challenges for #2. Tampa will probably just keep Ronde as #2 and move him into the slot when Tampa play in nickel coverage.

Calvin & Kevin
05-04-2009, 07:30 AM
With due respect to Brodeur's analysis, you can't even pinpoint position battles for the Lions in terms of 2 or even 3 guys.

Nearly every position on the team is wide open except for #1 WR and #1 RB, and probably C and RT as well. Positions like CB, MLB, DT, DE, FB and TE are open competitions with 3 to 6 guys competing to fill in the depth chart on each one.

The only clear two-man battle, and the most interesting one needless to say, is Culpepper v. Stafford.

Stafford showed up well at the rookie camp. Schwartz was very pleased with the way he threw the ball and absorbed the things the coaches were installing at this (admittedly very basic) stage. He showed off his cannon arm and was throwing with great accuracy by all accounts.

Culpepper, meanwhile, had also showed up well at the mini-camp held before the draft. He came in excellent shape, weighing less than he did as a rookie, and 30 lbs. less than he played at last year. Many veterans said they were impressed with his obvious commitment and the way he threw in those practices.

I think the Lions' next camp is in mid-June, and then training camp of course. Seeing them side-by-side will be very interesting.

Flyboy
05-04-2009, 10:32 AM
Another big position battle going into the Saints camp is the wide receiver position. We're probably one of the deepest teams in the league when it comes to the position and the competition should be excellent as always.

Marques Colston, Devery Henderson, Lance Moore, Robert Meachem & Adrian Arrington. Fun times indeed.

MasterShake
05-04-2009, 10:43 AM
Arizona Cardinals


Tackle - Mike Gandy vs. Herman Johnson vs. Brandon Keith
This might seem like a little bit of a surprise, but Whis and Grimm have said publicly that they will be trying big Herman out at tackle during workouts. Whether it will work out or not is yet to be seen. Brandon Keith is a guy I like that was drafted int he 7th round a couple years ago. He has been groomed a lot, and while I don't think his chances are that high, I still like him and think he might have a good shot.



The thought of Herman Johnson as an OT is almost comical. He has some of the slowest feet I have ever seen on an NFL lineman. You'll be lucky if DTs don't blow by him...let alone against a speed rusher.

Brodeur
05-04-2009, 10:58 AM
With due respect to Brodeur's analysis, you can't even pinpoint position battles for the Lions in terms of 2 or even 3 guys.

Nearly every position on the team is wide open except for #1 WR and #1 RB, and probably C and RT as well. Positions like CB, MLB, DT, DE, FB and TE are open competitions with 3 to 6 guys competing to fill in the depth chart on each one.

Barring a complete catastrophe from Pettigrew in mini camp, I guarantee he will start at TE come week one and I see no way that anyone unseats Backus at LT so those two are more or less locks as well. And I covered the other positions and I basically just gave my opinion of the battles.

CashmoneyDrew
05-04-2009, 12:23 PM
Another big position battle going into the Saints camp is the wide receiver position. We're probably one of the deepest teams in the league when it comes to the position and the competition should be excellent as always.

Marques Colston, Devery Henderson, Lance Moore, Robert Meachem & Adrian Arrington. Fun times indeed.

Just go ahead and trade us Robert Meachem. You guys don't need him anyways.

Flyboy
05-04-2009, 12:24 PM
Nah. We'll hold on to him a bit longer.

kkthxbi

drowe
05-04-2009, 12:43 PM
yup. the Packers are basically clusterfuck city right now.

the d-line and o-line are wide open...but, any number of things could happen:

on the d-line, we can pretty much assume that Cullen Jenkins will be a DE. good. the other DE spot and the DT spot are much more complicated....and really, doesn't matter too much. Ryan Pickett, BJ Raji, Justin Harrell and John Jolly will all see some playing time. Pickett and Raji will share the DT duties and both might see time at DE depedning on how Harrell does with his injuries and how Jolly does with his side job of selling oxy out of his car. So, Jenkins on one side and 4 dudes sharing the other 2 jobs.

and things are even more clusterfucked on the o-line. It would appear that the left side is set with Chad Clifton starting at LT and Daryn Colledge starting at LG...but, more on that later. the right side is...troubled. TJ Lang, Jamon Meredith, Tony Moll, Allen Barbre and Breno Giacomini will get looks at RT. Jason Spitz might take Scott Wells job at center..thus opening up RG for one of the losers of the RT position battle. Also, Daryn Colledge has experience playing both tackle positions..so, maybe we can throw his hat in the ring for RT...thus opening up the LG spot.

Also, just speculation on my part...but it seems like it COULD make sense for the massive Chad Clifton to move to RT so the undersized Colledge could play LT.

can't wait to see how it all plays out.

tjsunstein
05-04-2009, 02:13 PM
yup. the Packers are basically clusterfuck city right now.

the d-line and o-line are wide open...but, any number of things could happen:

on the d-line, we can pretty much assume that Cullen Jenkins will be a DE. good. the other DE spot and the DT spot are much more complicated....and really, doesn't matter too much. Ryan Pickett, BJ Raji, Justin Harrell and John Jolly will all see some playing time. Pickett and Raji will share the DT duties and both might see time at DE depedning on how Harrell does with his injuries and how Jolly does with his side job of selling oxy out of his car. So, Jenkins on one side and 4 dudes sharing the other 2 jobs.

and things are even more clusterfucked on the o-line. It would appear that the left side is set with Chad Clifton starting at LT and Daryn Colledge starting at LG...but, more on that later. the right side is...troubled. TJ Lang, Jamon Meredith, Tony Moll, Allen Barbre and Breno Giacomini will get looks at RT. Jason Spitz might take Scott Wells job at center..thus opening up RG for one of the losers of the RT position battle. Also, Daryn Colledge has experience playing both tackle positions..so, maybe we can throw his hat in the ring for RT...thus opening up the LG spot.

Also, just speculation on my part...but it seems like it COULD make sense for the massive Chad Clifton to move to RT so the undersized Colledge could play LT.

can't wait to see how it all plays out.

Seems kind of out there but I wouldn't be surprised if that happened either. I think our problem is a good one to have since we have depth. The real problem with the depth is that everyone is on the same level of talent. The good problem is that they are versatile. The offensive line is more of a battle than the DL because everyone plays on the DL.

This is the way I think ths line shakes out (RT-LT):
Lang - Spitz - Wells - Colledge - Clifton

kmartin575
05-04-2009, 03:48 PM
Denver Broncos

Starting QB

Kyle Orton vs. Chris Simms vs. Tom Brandstater

The Edge: Kyle Orton - Just the kind of low arm strength scrub that McDaniels loves. He is the definition of a game manager. Won many games in Chicago due to their top defense. Sadly, that's exactly what Denver lacks. But luckily, the Spread offense is a very QB friendly system. I mean, look at what McDaniels did with Matt Cassel. Cassel is basically a poor man's Kyle Orton. Orton will perform well because of the offensive talent around him, as well as the Spread offense.




Cassel a poor man's Orton? Ha, yeah right. Guess I shouldn't be surprised a Donkey fan would actually believe some crap like that.

BlindSite
05-04-2009, 06:03 PM
The battle at receiver goes pretty deep to be honest. After Bryant and Clayton, the depth chart could be filled out in any number of different ways in my opinion.

I also severely doubt that Zuttah battles for the right tackle job in training camp. He is a versatile lineman but he has seen the vast majority of his time in Tampa Bay at the guard position (with the other marginal percentage being at center).

Greg Peterson is almost certainly battling for a roster spot at DT so I'd take him out of the analysis. He has bulked up to well over 300 pounds (and definitely fits now!) so I'd expect him to get a shot at playing time next to Ryan Sims.

Again I really doubt Mack challenges for #2. Tampa will probably just keep Ronde as #2 and move him into the slot when Tampa play in nickel coverage.

I agree on Mack, Ronde is going to start, he's too versatile and too big of a play maker to sit on the bench in the starting package.

The Unseen
05-04-2009, 06:48 PM
Los Jaguares de Jacksonville

QB - Someone said that Cleo Lemon looks bad so far, but is there really any competition behind him?

RB - Rashard Jennings may find himself a spot, but MJD is #1. How many carries Greg Jones will get will be the most important question.

WR - Torry Holt is an automatic starter. The rest is cloudy. Mike Walker is the #2 as of camp and Dennis Northcutt is #3, but that could change. Mike Thomas may be the slot specialist. Jarrett Dillard has starter potential. Tiquan Underwood and Troy Williamson also have to compete

O-line - Tra Thomas is starter at LT, but Eugene Monroe is not far behind. Eben Britton may push Tony Pashos from RT inward to guard.

D-line - Quinton Groves may or may not break the starting line-up versus Reggie Hayward. John Henderson and Rob Meier seem secure at DT, but Terrance Knighton needs to pressure them.

LB - I think Smith, Durant, and Ingram are secure. Interestingly, they have Durant inside and Smith back outside. Smith started his career at OLB and moved inside when Mike Peterson was injured. From what I understood, Smith was better inside, but Durant was drafted to be an MLB and Mike Peterson's ultimate replacement.

Secondary - As of now, Brian Williams has been moved back to CB. Which is interesting, because that means that boom-or-bust project Derek Cox will not be starter. I guess he'll be nickelback.

That was moreso a position rundown than position battles, but whatev

LonghornsLegend
05-04-2009, 07:09 PM
I have always loved Justin Durant, kinda felt he was better on the weak side but if he's bulked up some he could be a monster inside.

rockio42
05-04-2009, 07:42 PM
Los Jaguares de Jacksonville

QB - Someone said that Cleo Lemon looks bad so far, but is there really any competition behind him?

RB - Rashard Jennings may find himself a spot, but MJD is #1. How many carries Greg Jones will get will be the most important question.

WR - Torry Holt is an automatic starter. The rest is cloudy. Mike Walker is the #2 as of camp and Dennis Northcutt is #3, but that could change. Mike Thomas may be the slot specialist. Jarrett Dillard has starter potential. Tiquan Underwood and Troy Williamson also have to compete

O-line - Tra Thomas is starter at LT, but Eugene Monroe is not far behind. Eben Britton may push Tony Pashos from RT inward to guard.

D-line - Quinton Groves may or may not break the starting line-up versus Reggie Hayward. John Henderson and Rob Meier seem secure at DT, but Terrance Knighton needs to pressure them.

LB - I think Smith, Durant, and Ingram are secure. Interestingly, they have Durant inside and Smith back outside. Smith started his career at OLB and moved inside when Mike Peterson was injured. From what I understood, Smith was better inside, but Durant was drafted to be an MLB and Mike Peterson's ultimate replacement.

Secondary - As of now, Brian Williams has been moved back to CB. Which is interesting, because that means that boom-or-bust project Derek Cox will not be starter. I guess he'll be nickelback.

That was moreso a position rundown than position battles, but whatev

Smith playing WLB or is Ingram???

DiG
05-04-2009, 08:00 PM
The Skins position battle at WR is heating up. Santana Moss, Randle El, and Devin Thomas are locks. Thomas is said to have been most impressive in his routes/catching in mini camp but its the 4th, 5th, and 6th WR spots that are getting interesting. Three rookies, Jaison Williams, Tommy Breaux, and Marko Mitchell, have all been said to have had a good mini camp. Also in the mix are DJ Hackett, Roydell Williams, Kelley Washington, James Thrash, Kelley Washington and the injured Malcolm Kelly.

Calvin & Kevin
05-04-2009, 08:02 PM
Barring a complete catastrophe from Pettigrew in mini camp, I guarantee he will start at TE come week one and I see no way that anyone unseats Backus at LT so those two are more or less locks as well. And I covered the other positions and I basically just gave my opinion of the battles.

Oh I certainly wasn't criticizing your analysis. Just saying that most of the Lions' position battles aren't like other ones in this thread, of a "This guy v. that guy." It's more like a free-for-all.

Yeah, Backus is pretty set at LT unless they pick someone else up, though there still is the slim possibility of Loper being considered at LT. And I agree with Pettigrew too, but the overall depth chart is really up in the air, with possibly (probably) 3 totally different players from last year's TEs.

The Unseen
05-04-2009, 08:16 PM
Smith playing WLB or is Ingram???

uhhh I'm not sure. I think it's Smith because IIRC that's what he played earlier, but I'm not totally sure.

Go_Eagles77
05-04-2009, 08:29 PM
The Skins position battle at WR is heating up. Santana Moss, Randle El, and Devin Thomas are locks. Thomas is said to have been most impressive in his routes/catching in mini camp but its the 4th, 5th, and 6th WR spots that are getting interesting. Three rookies, Jaison Williams, Tommy Breaux, and Marko Mitchell, have all been said to have had a good mini camp. Also in the mix are DJ Hackett, Roydell Williams, Kelley Washington, James Thrash, Kelley Washington and the injured Malcolm Kelly.
So theirs a chance Malcolm Kelly might not even make the team?

DiG
05-04-2009, 09:06 PM
So theirs a chance Malcolm Kelly might not even make the team?

I highly doubt it but I guess its not beyond the realm of possibilities. I think its more likely that Thrash could get cut. I think 1 of the 3 rookies makes the squad and one of Hackett, K. Washington, and Roydell Williams. Just a guess. I could even see a chance of 7 WRs.

BlindSite
05-04-2009, 11:17 PM
I highly doubt it but I guess its not beyond the realm of possibilities. I think its more likely that Thrash could get cut. I think 1 of the 3 rookies makes the squad and one of Hackett, K. Washington, and Roydell Williams. Just a guess. I could even see a chance of 7 WRs.

Honestly, don't expect too much out of DJ Hackett I made that mistake last year. He's a decent receiver and will look excellent in shorts, but he'll struggle and he is a constant injury problem.

Sneeze at the guy and he'll be out for a week.

OneToughGame
05-04-2009, 11:22 PM
Honestly, don't expect too much out of DJ Hackett I made that mistake last year. He's a decent receiver and will look excellent in shorts, but he'll struggle and he is a constant injury problem.

Sneeze at the guy and he'll be out for a week.

He was just a big play here and there type of WR for the Seahawks anyway. Way to injury prone. I like him but I would sign him for more then a small contract myself lol.

the decider13
05-04-2009, 11:29 PM
QB-Orton v Simms
I guess there is an open competition between the two, as they are evenly splitting snaps at practice. I honestly see this going to Orton because of the fact McD is always mentioning Orton in interviews. There might be outcry if the guy that was a "deal breaker" doesn't play.

RB- Moreno v Everyone else
I don't think there is much competition from anyone. Hillis should be at FB, with Buckhalter, Jordan, and Arrington doing special teams/situational RB.

2nd TE- Scheffler v Quinn
I've always liked Scheffler, but things aren't looking to good for him. The team has one good blocking TE in Graham, then traded in to the 2nd to grab another in Quinn. Scheffler had a lot of connections to Cutler (close friends, same agent) so it wouldn't surprise me to see him get traded for a future pick.

The defense is wide open, I would have to post a position battle for all of them. The only one worth mentioning is Andre Goodman v Alphonso Smith. Which ever one wins, the other will be a good nickel guy. My money is on Goodman at the start of the year, and Smith taking over later if he does good.

Brent
05-05-2009, 12:18 AM
Just to add to the Niners even though Dashon Goldson has been named the starter at FS I think Reggie Smith will give him a run for his money.
I dont see it. They named him the starter before any camps or the draft. That pretty much ended the discussion, unless Goldson is just absolutely terrible during TC. Maybe during the season, if he sucks but not week 1.

HawkeyeFan
05-05-2009, 12:25 AM
Current Rams battles

No. 2 and 3 RB: Antonio Pittman vs Kenneth Darby vs Brian Leonard // Predicted winner: No. 2 Antonio Pittman, No. 3 Kenneth Darby

No. 2, 3 and 4 WR: Keenan Burton vs Laurant Robinson vs Derek Stanley vs Brooks Foster // Predicted winners: No. 2 Laurant Robinson, No. 3 Keenan Burton, No. 4 Brooks Foster

No. 3 TE: Joe Klopfenstein vs Daniel Fells // Predicted winner: Daniel Fells

No. 1, and 2 DTs: Adam Carriker vs Clifton Ryan vs Dorrell Scott // Predicted winner: No. 1 Adam Carriker, No. 3 Clifton Ryan

No. 1 MLB: James Laurinatis vs Chris Draft // Predicted winner: James Laurinatis

No. 1 SLB: Pisa Tinoisamoa vs Chris Draft vs Quinten Culberson // Predicted winner: Chris Draft

No. 2, 3, and 4 CB: Tye Hill vs Bradley Fletcher vs Justin King vs Jonanthan Wade // Predicted winner: No. 2 Bradley Fletcher, No. 3 Tye Hill, No 4 Justin King


All for now.

DiG
05-05-2009, 07:06 AM
Honestly, don't expect too much out of DJ Hackett I made that mistake last year. He's a decent receiver and will look excellent in shorts, but he'll struggle and he is a constant injury problem.

Sneeze at the guy and he'll be out for a week.

Yea obviously the biggest concern would be his injury issues. Fortunately though, we would be bringing him in as like the 5th WR and based on his background and experience with Zorn I think it would be a good signing for us. I wouldn't count on him being a starter based on his injury prone past, although he has the talent to be, should he somehow stay healthy.

rockio42
05-05-2009, 07:24 AM
Current Rams battles

No. 2 and 3 RB: Antonio Pittman vs Kenneth Darby vs Brian Leonard // Predicted winner: No. 2 Antonio Pittman, No. 3 Kenneth Darby

No. 2, 3 and 4 WR: Keenan Burton vs Laurant Robinson vs Derek Stanley vs Brooks Foster // Predicted winners: No. 2 Laurant Robinson, No. 3 Keenan Burton, No. 4 Brooks Foster

No. 3 TE: Joe Klopfenstein vs Daniel Fells // Predicted winner: Daniel Fells

No. 1, and 2 DTs: Adam Carriker vs Clifton Ryan vs Dorrell Scott // Predicted winner: No. 1 Adam Carriker, No. 3 Clifton Ryan

No. 1 MLB: James Laurinatis vs Chris Draft // Predicted winner: James Laurinatis

No. 1 SLB: Pisa Tinoisamoa vs Chris Draft vs Quinten Culberson // Predicted winner: Chris Draft

No. 2, 3, and 4 CB: Tye Hill vs Bradley Fletcher vs Justin King vs Jonanthan Wade // Predicted winner: No. 2 Bradley Fletcher, No. 3 Tye Hill, No 4 Justin King


All for now.

OK just a few of my thoughts on there battle, I think Leonard at least wins 3rd RB, mainly because of what he did his rookie year when he wasn't hurt makes me think he will beat out at least Darby and from what I've heard Leonard looked great at mincamps...

I'm glad I'm not the only who think Laurent wins the no.2 job opposite Avery, they will compliment each other so well...

I hope to god you meant that it will be UT - Carriker and NT- Ryan...

Pisa Tinoisamoa will most likely start at WLB if he does start while Draft would start SLB or MLB, so in other world I think Witherspoon will play the opposite of whoever wins the other OLB spot (WLB is Draft win and SLB is Pisa wins) and I think Pisa will beat out Draft for the OLB...

LonghornsLegend
05-05-2009, 12:09 PM
So theirs a chance Malcolm Kelly might not even make the team?

If he keeps having knee surgeries it won't matter, he probably runs a 4.9 40 right now anyway, he came in the league as an old man with those knee problems, I expect him to go under the knife again before week 8.

NY+Giants=NYG
05-05-2009, 12:41 PM
Our whole WR corps..

Because of the many personnel groupings I will stick with the "regular" personnel.

Who plays X, Z, Y, and H?

HawkeyeFan
05-05-2009, 02:21 PM
OK just a few of my thoughts on there battle, I think Leonard at least wins 3rd RB, mainly because of what he did his rookie year when he wasn't hurt makes me think he will beat out at least Darby and from what I've heard Leonard looked great at mincamps...

I'm glad I'm not the only who think Laurent wins the no.2 job opposite Avery, they will compliment each other so well...

I hope to god you meant that it will be UT - Carriker and NT- Ryan...

Pisa Tinoisamoa will most likely start at WLB if he does start while Draft would start SLB or MLB, so in other world I think Witherspoon will play the opposite of whoever wins the other OLB spot (WLB is Draft win and SLB is Pisa wins) and I think Pisa will beat out Draft for the OLB...

Leonard will be hurt come season, so scratch him. Pittman and Darby both looked more shifty in there time then what Leoanrd did his rookie season, and Leonard had a better 'line.

Yes, UT Carriker, NT Ryan.

Witherspoon WILL start at WLB, he's not going to play MLB or SLB.

DiG
05-05-2009, 02:24 PM
If he keeps having knee surgeries it won't matter, he probably runs a 4.9 40 right now anyway, he came in the league as an old man with those knee problems, I expect him to go under the knife again before week 8.

I hear that. I have no confidence at all that he ever makes much of an impact. I don't think hell get cut this year because I'm not sure the FO is ready to admit that they screwed up with that pick but I think if or when he ends up on IR again then the writing is on the wall. He could always prove me wrong but I really don't foresee his knee ever being 100% again.

rockio42
05-05-2009, 02:43 PM
Leonard will be hurt come season, so scratch him. Pittman and Darby both looked more shifty in there time then what Leoanrd did his rookie season, and Leonard had a better 'line.

Yes, UT Carriker, NT Ryan.

Witherspoon WILL start at WLB, he's not going to play MLB or SLB.

I saw him running at minicamp?

Witherspoon makes more sense at SAM than Pisa, and i think overall a combo of Pisa and Witherspoon is better than Witherspoon and Draft

HawkeyeFan
05-05-2009, 02:50 PM
I saw him running at minicamp?

Witherspoon makes more sense at SAM than Pisa, and i think overall a combo of Pisa and Witherspoon is better than Witherspoon and Draft

He was, but he'll probably be hurt. I think he'll end up being a Back-up Fullback.


I diagree, Witherspoon is more athletic than physical, he'll be able to make plays in the backfield. Draft is probably our most physical LB, and is better suited for SLB than Pisa or Witherspoon.

killxswitch
05-05-2009, 02:52 PM
Dam8610 already covered most Colts starter battles, but Dammy you either forgot or IMO should've included Moala vs. Brock vs. Dawson vs. Foster for the UT position.

I think Brock will continue to "start" at LDE. If Moala fails to beat out Dawson and Foster for the starting UT position I will be disappointed to say the least.

edit: I also think Brown will push Addai for his starting spot. The Colts won't call it a competition, but I think that's what it is.

BlindSite
05-05-2009, 06:13 PM
He was, but he'll probably be hurt. I think he'll end up being a Back-up Fullback.


I diagree, Witherspoon is more athletic than physical, he'll be able to make plays in the backfield. Draft is probably our most physical LB, and is better suited for SLB than Pisa or Witherspoon.

Witherspoon when on his game is one of the best WLB in the NFL, he should be put there and kept there.