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DoughBoy
05-08-2009, 04:35 PM
This is fun just make a roster of players that is the best at their position in your division. If you want to play around with it some more make your teams all time team. Or make an all rookie team for this year. Have Fun

I will start with the AFC south.
Offense
QB- Peyton Manning(Colts)

RB- Steve Slaton/Chris Johnson/MJD(None are head and sholders better than the others)

FB-Greg Jones (Jaguars)

WR-Andre Johnson (Texans)

WR-Reggie Wayne (Colts)

Slot- Torry Holt (Jaguars)

TE- Owen Daniels (Texans)

LT-Michael Roos (Titans)

LG-Vince Manuwai (Jaguars)

C-Jeff Saturday (Colts)

RG-Jake Scott (Titans)

RT- David Stewart (Titans)

Defense-

RE- Kyle Vanden Bosch (Titans)

DT-John Henderson (Jaguars)

DT-Tony Brown (Titans)

LE-Mario Williams (Texans)

ROLB-Keith Bulluck (Titans)

MLB- DeMeco Ryans (Texans)

LOLB-David Thorton (Titans)

CB 1- Rasheen Mathis(Jaguars)

CB 2- Cortland Finnegan(Titans)

FS- Michael Griffin(Titans)

SS- Bob Sanders (Colts)

KR/PR- Jacoby Jones (Texans)

K- Adam Vinateri(Colts)

P-Craig Hentrich(Titans)

stephenson86
05-08-2009, 04:42 PM
This is fun just make a roster of players that is the best a their position in your division. If you want to play around with it some more make your teams all time team. Or make an all rookie team for this year. Have Fun

I will start with the AFC south.
Offense
QB- Peyton Manning(Colts)

RB- Chris Johnson (Titans)

FB-Ahmad Hall (Titans)

WR-Andre Johnson (Texans)

WR-Reggie Wayne (Colts)

Slot- Torry Holt (Jaguars)

TE- Owen Daniels (Texans)

LT-Michael Roos (Titans)

LG-Vince Manuwai (Jaguars)

C-Jeff Saturday (Colts)

RG-Jake Scott (Titans)

RT- David Stewart (Titans)

Defense-

RE- Dwight Freeney (Colts)

DT-John Henderson (Jaguars)

DT-Tony Brown (Titans)

LE-Mario Williams (Texans)

ROLB-Keith Bulluck (Titans)

MLB- DeMeco Ryans (Texans)

LOLB-David Thorton (Titans)

CB 1- Rasheen Mathis (Jaguars)

CB 2- Cortland Finnegan (Titans)

FS- Michael Griffin (Titans)

SS- Bob Sanders (Colts)

KR/PR- Jacoby Jones (Texans)

K- Adam Vinateri (Colts)

P-Craig Hentrich (Titans)

DoughBoy
05-08-2009, 04:43 PM
LOL good job

stephenson86
05-08-2009, 04:47 PM
pretty much the same haha i just put in personal bias towards johnson and i think hall is just flat out nasty and i think KVB is declining and i am in love with freeney

Bills2083
05-08-2009, 04:55 PM
QB - Tom Brady (Patriots)
RB - Marshawn Lynch :) (Bills)
RB - Thomas Jones (Jets)
WR - Randy Moss (Patriots)
WR - Terrell Owens (Bills)
WR - Wes Welker (Patriots)
TE - Dustin Keller (Jets)
LT - Jake Long (Dolphins)
LG - Logan Mankins (Patriots)
C - Nick Mangold (Jets)
RG - Stephen Neal (Patriots)
RT - Vernon Carey (Dolphins)

Defense: 3-4, considering 3 of the 4 teams employ it. I wish all 4 would, however

LE - Ty Warren (Patriots)
DT - Vince Wilfork (Patriots) Kris Jenkins (Jets) It's a tossup IMO
RE - Richard Seymour (Patriots)
LOLB - Joey Porter (Dolphins)
ILB - Jerod Mayo (Patriots)
ILB - David Harris (Jets)
ROLB - Adalius Thomas (Patriots)
CB - Terrence McGee (Bills)
CB - Darrelle Revis (Jets)
SS - Donte Whitner (Bills)... AFC East is weak at SS
FS - Kerry Rhodes (Jets)

K - Stephen Gostkowski (Patriots)
P - Brian Moorman (Bills)
KR - Leon Washington (Jets)
PR - Roscoe Parrish (Bills) ;)

AkiliSmith
05-08-2009, 04:56 PM
AFC North

QB - Carson Palmer (homer)
RB - Willie Parker
FB - Le'Ron McClain
WR - Hines Ward
WR - Chad Johnson
TE - Heath Miller
LT - Joe Thomas
LG - Eric Steinbach
C - Matt Birk
RG - Andrew Whitworth
RT - Andre Smith

DE - Haloti Ngata
NT - Shaun Rogers
DE - Aaron Smith
OLB - James Harrison
ILB - Ray Lewis
ILB - James Farrior
OLB - Terrell Suggs
CB - Leon Hall
CB - Ike Taylor
FS - Ed Reed
SS - Troy Polamalu

DoughBoy
05-08-2009, 04:56 PM
I think Ahmard is alot better also but you know how jaguar fans get...

the decider13
05-08-2009, 05:13 PM
AFC West- For the defense I'm just gonna do the 2 best ends and tackles and the 3 best line backers. It's kinda hard to judge because 1 team ran the 3-4 and two teams are switching to it.

QB-Philip Rivers (SD)
RB-Ladanian Tomlinson (SD)
FB- Peyton Hillis (DEN)
WR-Brandon Marshall (DEN)
WR-Dwayne Bowe (KC)
TE- Antonio Gates (SD)

LT- Ryan Clady (DEN)
LG-Kris Dielman (SD)
C-Nick Hardwick(SD)
RG-Mike Goff (KC) not sure if he plays left our right
RT-Ryan Harris (DEN)


DE-Derrick Burgess (OAK)
DT-Jamal Williams (SD)
DT-Tommy Kelly (OAK)
DE-Luis Castillo (SD)

LB- Shawn Merriman (SD)
LB-DJ Williams (DEN)
LB- Thomas Howard (OAK)

CB-Nmadi Asomougha (OAK)
CB-Champ Bailey (DEN)
S- Brian Dawkins (DEN)
S- Bernard Pollard (KC)

Michigan
05-08-2009, 05:19 PM
NFC NORTH

QB: Jay Cutler, CHI
RB: Adrian Peterson, MIN
FB: Naufahu Tahi, MIN
WR: Calvin Johnson, DET
WR: Greg Jennings, GB
TE: Greg Olsen, CHI
LT: Bryant Mckinnie, MIN
LG: Steve Hutchinson, MIN
C: Olin Kreutz, CHI
RG: Roberto Garza, CHI
RT: Kevin Shaffer, CHI (Tauscher?)

DE: Jared Allen, MIN
DT: Kevin Williams, MIN
DT: Tommie Harris, CHI
DE: Aaron Kampman, GB
WLB: Lance Briggs, CHI
MLB: Nick Barnett, GB
SLB: Chad Greenway, MIN
CB: Charles Woodson (PBHN), GB
CB: Charles Tillman, CHI
FS: Nick Collins, GB
SS: Kevin Payne, CHI

PK: Jason Hanson, DET
P: Chris Kluwe, MIN
RS: Devin Hester, CHI

I've probably overlooked/overrated some people. Only 2 Lions, and one of them's a kicker. =(

Matthew Jones
05-08-2009, 05:32 PM
QB - Tom Brady
RB - Marshawn Lynch
RB - Thomas Jones
WR - Randy Moss
WR - Terrell Owens
WR - Wes Welker
OT - Jake Long
OT - Matt Light
OG - Alan Faneca
OG - Logan Mankins
C - Dan Koppen

DE - Richard Seymour
DE - Ty Warren
DT - Vince Wilfork
DT - Kris Jenkins
LB - Paul Posluszny
LB - Joey Porter
LB - Jerod Mayo
LB - Calvin Pace
CB - Darrelle Revis
CB - Terrence McGee
FS - Donte Whitner
SS - Yeremiah Bell

K - Stephen Gostkowski
P - Brian Moorman

KR/PR - Leon Washington

jimmylishis
05-08-2009, 05:35 PM
NFC NORTH

QB: Jay Cutler, CHI
RB: Adrian Peterson, MIN
FB: Naufahu Tahi, MIN
WR: Calvin Johnson, DET
WR: Greg Jennings, GB
TE: Greg Olsen, CHI
LT: Bryant Mckinnie, MIN
LG: Steve Hutchinson, MIN
C: Olin Kreutz, CHI
RG: Roberto Garza, CHI
RT: Kevin Shaffer, CHI (Tauscher?)

DE: Jared Allen, MIN
DT: Kevin Williams, MIN
DT: Tommie Harris, CHI
DE: Aaron Kampman, GB
WLB: Lance Briggs, CHI
MLB: Nick Barnett, GB
SLB: Chad Greenway, MIN
CB: Charles Woodson (PBHN), GB
CB: Charles Tillman, CHI
FS: Nick Collins, GB
SS: Kevin Payne, CHI

PK: Jason Hanson, DET
P: Chris Kluwe, MIN
RS: Devin Hester, CHI

I've probably overlooked/overrated some people. Only 2 Lions, and one of them's a kicker. =(

antoine winfield>>>>charles tillman. The rest looks good though

diabsoule
05-08-2009, 06:07 PM
NFC South

QB - Drew Brees (Saints)
RB - Michael Turner (Falcons) or DeAngelo Williams (Panthers)
FB - Ovie Mughelli (Falcons)
WR - Steve Smith (Panthers)
WR - Roddy White (Falcons)
TE - Tony Gonzales (Falcons) (side note: NFC South is loaded with Shockey, Gonzo, and Winslow Jr.)
LT: Jammal Brown (Saints)
LG: Carl Nicks (Saints) (this was really a toss up for me)
C: Jeff Faine (Bucs) (again, another toss up)
RG: Jahri Evans (Saints)
RT: Jeff Otah (Panthers)

DE: Julius Peppers (Panthers)
DT: Jonathan Babineaux (Falcons)
DT: Sedrick Ellis (Saints)
DE: John Abraham (Falcons)
SLB: Mike Peterson (Falcons)
MLB: Jonathan Vilma (Saints) (this is definitely a toss up)
WLB: Thomas Davis (Panthers) (could be Angelo Crowell)
CB: Chris Gamble (Panthers)
CB: Richard Marshall (Panthers)
FS: Tanard Jackson (Bucs)
SS: Chris Harris (Bucs)

marshallb
05-08-2009, 06:09 PM
NFC North

QB- Jay Cutler
RB- Adrian Peterson
WR- Calvin Johnson
WR- Greg Jennings
WR- Bernard Berrian
TE- Greg Olsen
LT- Bryant McKinnie
LG- Steve Hutchinson
C- Olin Kreutz
RG- Anthony Herrera
RT- Kevin Shafer

DE- Jared Allen
DT- Kevin Williams
DT- Pat Williams
DE- Aaron Kampman
OLB- Lance Briggs
MLB- Brian Urlacher
OLB- Chad Greenway
CB- Charles Woodson
CB- Antoine Winfield
S- Nick Collins
S- Madeiu Williams

K- Jason Hanson
P- Brad Maynard
RS- Devin Hester

I felt like going with 3 WRs instead of a FB, since all of the FBs in the NFC North suck. I also believe that both S are FS, but I think those guys are the 2 best S, when healthy, in the NFC North.

PACKmanN
05-08-2009, 06:16 PM
Clifton and Spitz say hi. Also, Driver>Berrian.

princefielder28
05-08-2009, 06:27 PM
Clifton and Spitz say hi. Also, Driver>Berrian.

I can buy Driver and maybe Spitz but no way is Clifton the top LT in the North.

CC.SD
05-08-2009, 06:40 PM
AFC West- For the defense I'm just gonna do the 2 best ends and tackles and the 3 best line backers. It's kinda hard to judge because 1 team ran the 3-4 and two teams are switching to it.

QB-Philip Rivers (SD)
RB-Ladanian Tomlinson (SD)
FB- Peyton Hillis (DEN)
WR-Brandon Marshall (DEN)
WR-Dwayne Bowe (KC)
TE- Antonio Gates (SD)

LT- Ryan Clady (DEN)
LG-Kris Dielman (SD)
C-Nick Hardwick(SD)
RG-Mike Goff (KC) not sure if he plays left our right
RT-Ryan Harris (DEN)


DE-Derrick Burgess (OAK)
DT-Jamal Williams (SD)
DT-Tommy Kelly (OAK)
DE-Luis Castillo (SD)

LB- Shawn Merriman (SD)
LB-DJ Williams (DEN)
LB- Shaun Phillips (SD)

CB-Nmadi Asomougha (OAK)
CB-Champ Bailey (DEN)
S- Brian Dawkins (DEN)
S- Bernard Pollard (KC)

Pretty good the only tweak I would make is getting Mike Goff OUTTA there, there's got to be someone, anyone better. slap Gallery in as RG.

Thumper
05-08-2009, 06:56 PM
QB: Donovan McNabb (Romo or Manning depending on your team)
RB: Clinton Portis/Brian Westbrook/Brandon Jacobs/ Marion Barber (any could be argued)
FB: Mike Sellers
WR: Roy Williams
WR: Santana Moss (possibly DeSean Jackson)
TE: Jason Witten (Chris Cooley)

LT: Chris Samuels (Jason Peters)
LG: Chris Snee
C: Shaun O'hara
RG: Leonard Davis
RT: Shawn Andrews

DE: Justin Tuck (Osi (not even going to attempt the last name), Andre Carter)
DT: Albert Haynesworth (Jay Ratliff)
DT: Broderick Bunkley
DE: Trent Cole

LB: Demarcus Ware
LB: London Fletcher Baker
LB: Rocky McIntosh

CB: Sheldon Brown (Asante Samuel, Terrance Newman, Carlos Rogers, DeAngelo Hall, Aaron Ross)
SS: Quintin Mikell (Ken Hamlin)
FS: Laron Landry
CB: Corey Webster

Chucky
05-08-2009, 07:00 PM
For the NFC South

QB- Drew Brees (Saints)
RB-Deangelo Williams (Panthers)
FB- Ovie Mughelli ( Falcons)
WR- Steve Smith (Panthers)
WR- Antonio Bryant (Bucs)
TE: Tony Gonzalez (Falcons) although K2 is right behind
LT-Jordan Gross (Panthers)
LG- Arron Sears (Bucs)
C- Jeff Faine (Bucs)
RG- Davin Joseph (Bucs)
RT- Jamaal Brown (Saints) could have put him or gross there. If i wanted to go with a player who still plays RT i would probably go with Otah(Panthers)

LE: Julius Peppers (Panthers)
DT: Jon Babineaux (Falcons)
DT: Sed Ellis (Saints) DT's really suck in the NFC South
RE: John Abraham (Falcons
WLB:Jon Beason ( Panthers)
MLB: Barret Ruud (Bucs)
SLB:Thomas Davis ( Panthers)
CB: Chris Gamble(Panthers)
CB: Richard Marshall (Panthers)
SS: Jermaine Phillips (Bucs) going to still consider him a S
FS: Tanard Jackson (Bucs)

K: Matt Bryant (Bucs)
P: Michael Koenen ( Falcons)
RS: Clifton Smith (Bucs)

j05son
05-08-2009, 07:01 PM
AFC NORTH -- I honestly tried to put all homerism aside.

QB - Ben Roethlisberger (Pit)
HB - Willie Parker (Pit)
FB - Le'Ron McClain (Bal)
WR - Braylon Edwards (Cle)
WR - Chad Ochocinco (Cin)
TE - Heath Miller (Pit)
LT - Joe Thomas (Cle)
LG - Eric Steinbach (Cle)
C - Matt Birk (Bal)
RG - Ben Grubbs (Bal)
RT - Andre Smith (Cin)

DE - Haloti Ngata (Bal)
NT - Shaun Rogers (Cle)
DE - Aaron Smith (Pit)
OLB - Terrell Suggs (Bal)
ILB - James Harrison (Pit)
ILB - D'Qwell Jackson (Cle)
OLB - Lamarr Woodley (Pit)
CB - Leon Hall (Cin)
CB - Eric Wright (Cle)
FS - Ed Reed (Bal)
SS - Troy Polamalu (Pit)

K - Phil Dawson (Cle)
P - Sam Koch (Bal)
LS - Ryan Pontbriand (Cle)
KR/PR - Joshua Cribss (Cle)

Shane P. Hallam
05-08-2009, 07:15 PM
AFC NORTH -- I honestly tried to put all homerism aside.

QB - Ben Roethlisberger (Pit)
HB - Willie Parker (Pit)
FB - Le'Ron McClain (Bal)
WR - Braylon Edwards (Cle)
WR - Chad Ochocinco (Cin)
TE - Heath Miller (Pit)
LT - Joe Thomas (Cle)
LG - Eric Steinbach (Cle)
C - Matt Birk (Bal)
RG - Ben Grubbs (Bal)
RT - Andre Smith (Cin)

DE - Haloti Ngata (Bal)
NT - Shaun Rogers (Cle)
DE - Aaron Smith (Pit)
OLB - Terrell Suggs (Bal)
ILB - James Harrison (Pit)
ILB - D'Qwell Jackson (Cle)
OLB - Lamarr Woodley (Pit)
CB - Leon Hall (Cin)
CB - Eric Wright (Cle)
FS - Ed Reed (Bal)
SS - Troy Polamalu (Pit)

K - Phil Dawson (Cle)
P - Sam Koch (Bal)
LS - Ryan Pontbriand (Cle)
KR/PR - Joshua Cribss (Cle)

Well, James Harrison is an OLB and Ngata is a NT, correct? And Shayne Graham > Phil Dawson!

J/k. That is a very good list. I'd debate NT a bit. Our RBs are terrible. The corners I question a little. Though, I'm not sure I could put Ike Taylor on there. There has to be a better RT than a rookie right? Overall though, very solid.

fenikz
05-08-2009, 07:26 PM
NFC West

QB Kurt Warner(AZ)
RB Frank Gore(SF)
FB Mike Karney(STL)
WR Larry Fitzgerald(AZ)
WR Anquan Boldin(AZ)
TE John Carlson(SEA)
LT Walter Jones(SEA)
LG Mike Wahle(SEA)
C Jason Brown(STL)
RG Reggie Wells(AZ)
RT Levi Brown(AZ)

RDE Darnell Dockett(AZ)
NT Gabe Watson(AZ)
LDE Chris Long(STL)
OLB Karlos Dansby(AZ)
ILB Patrick Willis(SF)
ILB Lofa Tatupu(SEA)
OLB LeRoy Hill(SEA)
CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie(AZ)
FS O.J Atogwe(STL)
SS Adrian Wilson(AZ)
CB Nate Clements(SF)

Ravens1991
05-08-2009, 07:28 PM
IDK how Andre Smith could be 1st team all pro when he is just a rookie.

TitanHope
05-08-2009, 07:41 PM
Made mine a while ago in the AFC South forum...

Well, everyone else has one, and we don't talk too much in here as we used to. So, post your All-AFC South teams! Fans from other divisions are free to put up their own teams as well. Here's mine:

1st Team

QB: Peyton Manning, Colts
RB: Chris Johnson, Titans
FB: Ahmard Hall, Titans
WR: Andre Johnson, Texans
WR: Reggie Wayne, Colts
TE: Dallas Clark, Colts
OT: Michael Roos, Titans
OG: Chester Pitts, Texans
OC: Kevin Mawae, Titans
OG: Jake Scott, Titans
OT David Stewart, Titans

DE: Mario Williams, Texans
DT: Albert Haynesworth, Titans
DT: John Henderson, Jaguars
DE: Dwight Freeney, Colts
OLB: Keith Bulluck, Titans
MLB: Demeco Ryans, Texans
OLB: Clint Sessions, Colts
CB: Cortland Finnegan, Titans
CB: Rashean Mathis, Jaguars
FS: Michael Griffin, Titans
SS: Chris Hope, Titans

K: Rob Bironas, Titans
P: Hunter Smith, Colts
KR/PR: Chris Carr, Titans


2nd Team

QB: Kerry Collins, Titans
RB: Steve Slaton, Texans
FB: Greg Jones, Jaguars
WR: Kevin Walter, Texans
WR: Matt Jones, Jaguars
TE: Owen Daniels, Texans
OT: Tony Ugoh, Colts
OG: Eugene Amano, Titans
OC: Jeff Saturday, Colts
OG: Charlie Johnson, Colts
OT Khalif Barnes, Jaguars

DE: Robert Mathis, Colts
DT: Tony Brown, Titans
DT: Jason Jones, Titans
DE: Jacob Ford, Titans
OLB: David Thornton, Titans
MLB: Gary Brackett, Colts
OLB: Freddie Keiaho, Colts
CB: Jacques Reeves, Texans
CB: Kelvin Hayden, Colts
FS: Antoine Bethea, Colts
SS: Bob Sanders, Colts

K: Kris Brown, Texans
P: Craig Hentrich, Titans
KR/PR: Brian Witherspoon, Jaguars

I kinda rushed through it. Playing Halo while I typed this up. ******* shotguns...

Go_Eagles77
05-08-2009, 07:44 PM
Had to move a couple guys around to get the best players.

QB: Donovan McNabb (PHI)
HB: Clinton Portis (WAS) / Brian Westbrook (PHI)
FB: Leonard Weaver (PHI)
WR: Roy Williams (DAL) / Santana Moss (WAS) / DeSean Jackson (PHI)
TE: Jason Witten (DAL)
LT: Jason Peters (PHI)
LG: Chris Snee (NYG)
C: Andre Gurode (DAL)
RG: Shawn Andrews (PHI)
RT: Chris Samuels (WAS)

RDE: Osi Umenyiora (NYG) / Trent Cole (PHI)
NT: Albert Haynesworth (WAS)
UT: Brodrick Bunkley (PHI)
LDE: Justin Tuck (NYG)
OLB: Demarcus Ware (DAL)
MLB: London Fletcher-Baker (WAS)
OLB: Stewart Bradley (PHI)
CB: Asante Samuel (PHI) / Sheldon Brown (PHI) / Corey Webster (NYG)
FS: LaRon Landry (WAS)
SS: Quintin Mikell (PHI)

K: Nick Folk (DAL)
P: Jeff Feagles (NYG)
KOR: Ellis Hobbs (PHI)
PR: DeSean Jackson (PHI)

DoughBoy
05-08-2009, 07:56 PM
Like I said its fine to do your all-time team also or any other all time team you can think of.
For Example

Titans-Non Oilers All-time team

Qb-Steve McNair
RB-Eddie George
FB-Lorenzo Neil
WR-Derrick Mason
WR-Justin Gage
WR-Drew Bennett
TE-Frank Wycheck
LT-Micheal Roos
LG-Bruce Matthews
C-Kevin Mawae
RG-Benji Olson
RT-John Runyan
Defense
RE-Kyle Vanden Bosch
DT-Albert Haynesworth
DT-Robaire Smith
LE-Jevon Kearse
OLB-Keith Bulluck
MLB-Randall Godfrey
OLB-David Thorton
CB-Samari Rolle
CB-Cortland Finnegan
FS-Blaine Bishop
SS-Marcus Robinson

KR/PR-Pacman Jones

K-Rob Bironas
P-Craig Hentrich

Crickett
05-08-2009, 08:07 PM
AFC East

QB - Tom Brady (Patriots)
RB - Thomas Jones (Jets)
FB - Tony Richardson (Jets)
WR - Randy Moss (Patriots)
WR - Terrell Owens (Bills)
WR - Wes Welker (Patriots)
TE - Dustin Keller (Jets)
LT - Jake Long (Dolphins)
LG - Logan Mankins (Patriots)
C - Nick Mangold (Jets)
RG - Stephen Neal (Patriots)
RT - Nick Kaczur (Patriots)

DE - Richard Seymour (Patriots)
NT - Kris Jenkins (Jets)
DE - Marcus Stroud (Bills)
OLB - Joey Porter (Dolphins)
ILB - Paul Posluszny (Bills)
ILB - Jerod Mayo (Patriots)
OLB - Calvin Pace (Jets)
#1 CB - Darrelle Revis (Jets)
#2 CB - Terrence McGee (Bills)
FS - Kerry Rhodes (Jets)
SS - Brandon Meriweather (Patriots)

KR/PR - Leon Washington (Jets)

K - Stephen Gostkowski (Patriots)
P - Brian Moorman (Bills)

Giantsfan1080
05-08-2009, 08:16 PM
I agree with the 2 NFC East lists pretty much except I'd put Madison Hedgecock in as the FB.

Michigan
05-08-2009, 08:37 PM
The 2008 Detroit Lions

QB: Dan Orlovsky
RB: Kevin Smith
FB: Moran Norris
WR:
WR: Shaun McDonald
TE: John Owens
LT: Jeff Backus
LG: Edwin Mulitalo
C: Dominic Raiola
RG: Stephen Peterman
RT: Gosder Cherilus

DE: Jared DeVries
NT: Chuck Darby
DT: Cory Redding
DE: Dewayne White
WLB: Ryan Nece
MLB: Paris Lenon
SLB: Ernie Sims
CB: Brian Kelly
CB: Leigh Bodden
SS: Daniel Bullocks
FS: Kalvin Pearson

the decider13
05-08-2009, 08:51 PM
Pretty good the only tweak I would make is getting Mike Goff OUTTA there, there's got to be someone, anyone better. slap Gallery in as RG.

haha yeah, I had no idea who played RG. Gallery would be better than Goff.

ironman4579
05-08-2009, 09:22 PM
The 2008 Detroit Lions

QB: Dan Orlovsky
RB: Kevin Smith
FB: Moran Norris
WR:
WR: Shaun McDonald
TE: John Owens
LT: Jeff Backus
LG: Edwin Mulitalo
C: Dominic Raiola
RG: Stephen Peterman
RT: Gosder Cherilus

DE: Jared DeVries
NT: Chuck Darby
DT: Cory Redding
DE: Dewayne White
WLB: Ryan Nece
MLB: Paris Lenon
SLB: Ernie Sims
CB: Brian Kelly
CB: Leigh Bodden
SS: Daniel Bullocks
FS: Kalvin Pearson

FTMFW :( .........................

Jensen
05-08-2009, 10:07 PM
I'll try the NFC West.

QB - Kurt Warner (Cardinals)
RB - Steven Jackson (Rams)
FB - Mike Karney (Rams)
WR - Larry Fitzgerald (Cardinals)
WR - Anquan Boldin (Cardinals)
TE - John Carlson (Seahawks)
LT - Walter Jones (Seahawks)
LG - Mike Wahle (Seahawks)
C - Jason Brown (Rams)
RG - Reggie Wells (Cardinals)
RT - Joe Staley (49ers)

4-3
DE - Patrick Kerney (Seahawks)
DT - Darnell Dockett (Cardinals)
DT - Brandon Mebane (Seahawks)
DE - Chris Long (Rams)
OLB - Karlos Dansby (Cardinals)
MLB - Patrick Willis (49ers)
OLB - LeRoy Hill (Seahawks)
CB - Nate Clements (49ers)
CB - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (Cardinals)
FS - Oshiomogho Atogwe (Rams)
SS - Adrian Wilson (Cardinals)

3-4
DE - Darnell Dockett (Cardinals)
NT - Gabe Watson (Cardinals)
DE - Patrick Kerney (Seahawks)
OLB - Karlos Dansby (Cardinals)
ILB - Patrick Willis (49ers)
ILB - Lofa Tatupu (Seahawks)
OLB - LeRoy Hill (Seahawks)
CB - Nate Clements (49ers)
CB - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (Cardinals)
FS - Oshiomogho Atogwe (Rams)
SS - Adrian Wilson (Cardinals)

j05son
05-08-2009, 10:11 PM
Well, James Harrison is an OLB and Ngata is a NT, correct? And Shayne Graham > Phil Dawson!

J/k. That is a very good list. I'd debate NT a bit. Our RBs are terrible. The corners I question a little. Though, I'm not sure I could put Ike Taylor on there. There has to be a better RT than a rookie right? Overall though, very solid.

Yeah, the overall quality of RB/CB/OL [in our division] overall is bad.

I figured the best 4 LBs would be Harrison, Jackson, Suggs and Woodley. The problem like you stated is that 3 of them are OLB. I know Harrison is LOLB but out of Woodley, Suggs and him, I thought he'd be the best fit in the middle from that group and that he would be > then Lewis, Farrior, Barton or Maualuga.

Offensive line is bad in our division man. Unless Gaither at RT, Smith has to be the best one. It certainly wouldn't be Colon =p or Anderson or whoever the Brown's RT is...

Ngata and Rogers should be interchangeable either way...Ngata has played DE and Rogers is athletic enough [though maybe not conditioned enough]...

Phil is one of the better statistical kickers with the big knock being his distance, but he has better career longs then Graham and he's better on kickoffs...

Outside of Dawson, I don't think there's really any other stretch of homerism though...

wonderbredd24
05-08-2009, 10:20 PM
Even though he has yet to play a down, I think Oher is the best right tackle in the AFC North.

I still cannot believe Detroit passed on Oher

ironman4579
05-08-2009, 10:28 PM
Even though he has yet to play a down, I think Oher is the best right tackle in the AFC North.

I still cannot believe Detroit passed on Oher

If you think of him as a RT, then maybe the Lions did as well. Since they just drafted a RT in the first round last year, your incredulity would be a little misplaced.

wonderbredd24
05-08-2009, 10:46 PM
If you think of him as a RT, then maybe the Lions did as well. Since they just drafted a RT in the first round last year, your incredulity would be a little misplaced.

I am thinking of Oher as a RT because the Ravens have Jared Gaither as their left tackle and he's played pretty well, so at least for the time being, Oher fills the enormous hole at right tackle.

RaiderNation
05-08-2009, 11:28 PM
Derrick Burgess shouldnt be on a all pro team unless its the injury prone one......

the decider13
05-08-2009, 11:30 PM
Derrick Burgess shouldnt be on a all pro team unless its the injury prone one......

The afc west is crap for D line. It is just fact...they all suck except for Jamal Williams. Burgess is the best of the crap if that makes you feel better.

d34ng3l021
05-08-2009, 11:42 PM
NFC South

QB Drew Brees (NO) [Next year itll be Matt Ryan ;))
RB DeAngelo Williams (CAR)
FB Ovie Mughelli (ATL)
WR Steve Smith (CAR)
WR Roddy White (ATL) [lol at Chucky putting Antonio Bryant over White]
TE Tony Gonzalez (ATL) [lol at Chucky saying Winslow is right behind]
LT Jordan Gross (CAR) [Jamaal Brown is not that great anymore in my mind]
LG Justin Blalock (ATL)
C Todd McClure (ATL)
RG Davin Joseph (TB)
RT Jeff Otah (CAR)

LE Julius Peppers (CAR)
DT Jonathan Babineaux (ATL)
DT Sedrick Ellis (NO)
RE John Abraham (ATL)
LB Jon Vilma (NO)
LB Jon Beason (CAR)
LB Barrett Ruud (TB)
CB Chris Gamble (CAR)
CB Richard Marshall (CAR)
SS Chris Harris (CAR)
FS Tanard Jackson (TB)

I got lazy and made the LB positions just LB. All of them are MLBs lol. The 4 best LBs in the NFC South might all be MLBs. As much as the NFC South used to be known for defense, an All-NFC South offense would probably be in contention for the best offense in all division teams. Imagine Drew Brees having the option of throwing to Steve Smith, Roddy White, Marques Colston, Antonio Bryant, and Tony Gonzalez on 4 wide 1 TE sets.

ccB
05-09-2009, 01:01 AM
Well, James Harrison is an OLB and Ngata is a NT, correct? And Shayne Graham > Phil Dawson!

J/k. That is a very good list. I'd debate NT a bit. Our RBs are terrible. The corners I question a little. Though, I'm not sure I could put Ike Taylor on there. There has to be a better RT than a rookie right? Overall though, very solid.

Ngata usually plays DE when we run the 3-4, last year was a bit different since Kelly Gregg was out.

OneToughGame
05-09-2009, 01:47 AM
NFC West. I have to go 3 - 4 on defense because there's just too much talent at LB to only choose 3 lol.

QB: Kurt Warner (ARZ)
RB: Steven Jackson (STL)
FB: Owen Schmitt (SEA)
TE: John Carlson (SEA)
WR: Larry Fitzgerald (ARZ)
WR: Anquan Boldin (ARZ)
LT: Walter Jones (SEA)
LG: Mike Wahle (SEA) I don't think he'll start long this season though.
C: Jason Brown (STL)
RG: Reggie Wells (ARZ)
RT: Joe Staley (SF)

DE: Patrick Kerney (SEA)
NT: Gabe Watson (ARZ)
DE: Darnell Dockett (ARZ)
OLB: Karlos Dansby (ARZ)
ILB: Lofa Tatupu (SEA)
ILB: Patrick Willis (SF)
OLB: Leroy Hill (SEA)
CB: Marcus Trufant (SEA)
CB: Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (ARZ)
FS: O.J Atogwe (STL)
SS: Adrian Wilson (ARZ)

wicket
05-09-2009, 03:42 AM
NFC South

QB Drew Brees (NO) [Next year itll be Matt Ryan ;))
RB DeAngelo Williams (CAR)
FB Ovie Mughelli (ATL)
WR Steve Smith (CAR)
WR Roddy White (ATL) [lol at Chucky putting Antonio Bryant over White]
TE Tony Gonzalez (ATL) [lol at Chucky saying Winslow is right behind]
LT Jordan Gross (CAR) [Jamaal Brown is not that great anymore in my mind]
LG Justin Blalock (ATL)
C Todd McClure (ATL)
RG Davin Joseph (TB)
RT Jeff Otah (CAR)

LE Julius Peppers (CAR)
DT Jonathan Babineaux (ATL)
DT Sedrick Ellis (NO)
RE John Abraham (ATL)
LB Jon Vilma (NO)
LB Jon Beason (CAR)
LB Barrett Ruud (TB)
CB Chris Gamble (CAR)
CB Richard Marshall (CAR)
SS Chris Harris (CAR)
FS Tanard Jackson (TB)

I got lazy and made the LB positions just LB. All of them are MLBs lol. The 4 best LBs in the NFC South might all be MLBs. As much as the NFC South used to be known for defense, an All-NFC South offense would probably be in contention for the best offense in all division teams. Imagine Drew Brees having the option of throwing to Steve Smith, Roddy White, Marques Colston, Antonio Bryant, and Tony Gonzalez on 4 wide 1 TE sets.

Jahri Evans should be in there and it isnt even close. Next year both corners will be saints as well ;)

Arsenal
05-09-2009, 05:15 AM
NFC West lists look good for the most part, Justin Smith from San Francisco needs some recognition though. He was a beast last year and I didn't see anything from Chris Long to suggest that Long is already better then Smith.

AntoinCD
05-09-2009, 07:44 AM
AFC EAST

QB; Tom Brady(NE)
RB; Ronnie Brown(MIA)
RB; Thomas Jones(NYJ)
FB; Tony Richardson(NYJ)
WR; Randy Moss(NE)
WR; Wes Welker(NE)
WR; Terrell Owens(BUF)
TE; Dustin Keller(TE)
LT; Matt Light(NE)
LG; Logan Mankins(NE)
OC; Nick Mangold(NYJ)
RG; Justin Smiley(MIA)
RT; Jake Long(MIA)

DE; Richard Seymour(NE)
NT; Vince Wilfork(NE)
DE; Ty Warren(NE)
OLB; Joey Poerter(MIA)
ILB; Jerod Mayo(NE)
ILB; David Harris(NYJ)
OLB; Calvin Pace(NYJ)
CB; Darrelle Revis(NYJ)
FS; Kerry Rhodes(NYJ)
SS; Donte Whitner(BUF)
CB; Leigh Bodden(NE)

Gay Ork Wang
05-09-2009, 07:50 AM
NFC North

QB- Jay Cutler
RB- Adrian Peterson
WR- Calvin Johnson
WR- Greg Jennings
WR- Bernard Berrian
TE- Greg Olsen
LT- Bryant McKinnie
LG- Steve Hutchinson
C- Olin Kreutz
RG- Anthony Herrera
RT- Kevin Shafer

DE- Jared Allen
DT- Kevin Williams
DT- Pat Williams
DE- Aaron Kampman
OLB- Lance Briggs
MLB- Brian Urlacher
OLB- Chad Greenway
CB- Charles Woodson
CB- Antoine Winfield
S- Nick Collins
S- Madeiu Williams

K- Jason Hanson
P- Brad Maynard
RS- Devin Hester

I felt like going with 3 WRs instead of a FB, since all of the FBs in the NFC North suck. I also believe that both S are FS, but I think those guys are the 2 best S, when healthy, in the NFC North.
i wouldnt put shaffer on there, he isnt even going to start without a competition. as of now the Bears have LT Pace and RT Williams

Chucky
05-09-2009, 08:23 AM
NFC South

QB Drew Brees (NO) [Next year itll be Matt Ryan ;))
RB DeAngelo Williams (CAR)
FB Ovie Mughelli (ATL)
WR Steve Smith (CAR)
WR Roddy White (ATL) [lol at Chucky putting Antonio Bryant over White]
TE Tony Gonzalez (ATL) [lol at Chucky saying Winslow is right behind]
LT Jordan Gross (CAR) [Jamaal Brown is not that great anymore in my mind]
LG Justin Blalock (ATL)
C Todd McClure (ATL)
RG Davin Joseph (TB)
RT Jeff Otah (CAR)

LE Julius Peppers (CAR)
DT Jonathan Babineaux (ATL)
DT Sedrick Ellis (NO)
RE John Abraham (ATL)
LB Jon Vilma (NO)
LB Jon Beason (CAR)
LB Barrett Ruud (TB)
CB Chris Gamble (CAR)
CB Richard Marshall (CAR)
SS Chris Harris (CAR)
FS Tanard Jackson (TB)

I got lazy and made the LB positions just LB. All of them are MLBs lol. The 4 best LBs in the NFC South might all be MLBs. As much as the NFC South used to be known for defense, an All-NFC South offense would probably be in contention for the best offense in all division teams. Imagine Drew Brees having the option of throwing to Steve Smith, Roddy White, Marques Colston, Antonio Bryant, and Tony Gonzalez on 4 wide 1 TE sets.

As im sure you have seen the bryant vs. white argument has already happened before and i have no desire to do it again. I find it even moure laughable that you dont have faine on there, he was a beast last year. Also both Sears and Evans are better than Blalock so I dont see why you would have him there. Also whats so funny about K2 being close to Tony G, Tony G is getting very up there in age and could easily have a marvin harrison like year this year.

Nalej
05-09-2009, 08:51 AM
AFC EAST


QB- T. Brady
RB- R. Brown
WR- Randy Moss
WR- W. Welker
WR- T. Owens
TE- D. Keller
LT- J. Long
LG- L. Mankins
C- N. Mangold
RG- J. Smiley
RT- D. Woody

DE- R. Seymour
NT- V. Wolfork
DE- T. Warren
OLB- J. Porter
ILB- D. Harris
ILB- J. Mayo
OLB- A. Thomas
CB- D. Revis
CB- T. McGee
S- K. Rhodes
S- B. Merriweather

K- Gostkowski
P- Moorman
KR- L. Washington

etk
05-09-2009, 08:51 AM
NFC South

QB Drew Brees (NO) [Next year itll be Matt Ryan ;))
RB DeAngelo Williams (CAR)
FB Ovie Mughelli (ATL)
WR Steve Smith (CAR)
WR Roddy White (ATL) [lol at Chucky putting Antonio Bryant over White]
TE Tony Gonzalez (ATL) [lol at Chucky saying Winslow is right behind]
LT Jordan Gross (CAR) [Jamaal Brown is not that great anymore in my mind]
LG Justin Blalock (ATL)
C Todd McClure (ATL)
RG Davin Joseph (TB)
RT Jeff Otah (CAR)

LE Julius Peppers (CAR)
DT Jonathan Babineaux (ATL)
DT Sedrick Ellis (NO)
RE John Abraham (ATL)
LB Jon Vilma (NO)
LB Jon Beason (CAR)
LB Barrett Ruud (TB)
CB Chris Gamble (CAR)
CB Richard Marshall (CAR)
SS Chris Harris (CAR)
FS Tanard Jackson (TB)

I got lazy and made the LB positions just LB. All of them are MLBs lol. The 4 best LBs in the NFC South might all be MLBs. As much as the NFC South used to be known for defense, an All-NFC South offense would probably be in contention for the best offense in all division teams. Imagine Drew Brees having the option of throwing to Steve Smith, Roddy White, Marques Colston, Antonio Bryant, and Tony Gonzalez on 4 wide 1 TE sets.

Bryant>White. White will probably outproduce him this year though.

Gonzalez>Winslow but Winslow will probably outproduce him.

Blalock and McClure? I lol'd.

Gaines Adams is gonna blow up this year. Abraham is beginning his decline. I think Adams will prove the better player this year.

Phillips is the best SS in the division if he moves back there. Right now he's being tried out at LB.

Seamus2602
05-09-2009, 09:06 AM
AFC South

QB - Peyton Manning - Colts
RB - Maurice Jones-Drew - Jaguars
FB - Greg Jones - Jaguars
WR - Andre Johnson - Texans
WR - Reggie Wayne - Colts
TE - Dallas Clark - Colts
LT - Michael Roos - Titans
LG - Vince Manuwai - Jaguars
C - Kevin Mawae - Titans
RG - Jake Scott - Titans
RT - David Stewart - Titans

LE - Mario Williams - Texans
DT - John Henderson - Jaguars
DT - Tony Brown - Titans
RE - Dwight Freeney - Colts
WLB - David Thornton - Titans
MLB - DeMeco Ryans - Texans
SLB - Keith Bullock - Titans
CB - Cortland Finnegan - Titans
CB - Rashean Mathis - Jaguars
FS - Michael Griffin - Titans
SS - Bob Sanders - Colts

TitanHope
05-09-2009, 09:13 AM
AFC South

QB - Peyton Manning - Colts
RB - Maurice Jones-Drew - Jaguars
FB - Greg Jones - Jaguars
WR - Andre Johnson - Texans
WR - Reggie Wayne - Colts
TE - Dallas Clark - Colts
LT - Michael Roos - Titans
LG - Vince Manuwai - Jaguars
C - Kevin Mawae - Titans
RG - Jake Scott - Titans
RT - David Stewart - Titans

LE - Mario Williams - Texans
DT - John Henderson - Jaguars
DT - Tony Brown - Titans
RE - Dwight Freeney - Colts
WLB - Ketih Bullock - Titans
MLB - DeMeco Ryans - Texans
SLB - David Thornton - Titans
CB - Cortland Finnegan - Titans
CB - Rashean Mathis - Jaguars
FS - Michael Griffin - Titans
SS - Bob Sanders - Colts

Keith Bulluck plays SLB, and David Thornton plays WLB. Just FYI.

Why does everyone think Bulluck plays the weakside?

Go_Eagles77
05-09-2009, 09:50 AM
Keith Bulluck plays SLB, and David Thornton plays WLB. Just FYI.

Why does everyone think Bulluck plays the weakside?
Probably Madden. lol.

TitanHope
05-09-2009, 09:54 AM
Probably Madden. lol.

Is he not a ROLB? Nobody can spell his name right either.

Keith Bulluck will not stand for this! Harumph! Harumph he says!

coordinator0
05-09-2009, 09:58 AM
Is he not a ROLB? Nobody can spell his name right either.

Keith Bulluck will not stand for this! Harumph! Harumph he says!

In Madden I believe ROLB = WLB and LOLB = SLB.

Go_Eagles77
05-09-2009, 09:58 AM
Is he not a ROLB? Nobody can spell his name right either.

Keith Bulluck will not stand for this! Harumph! Harumph he says!
Well for most teams ROLB is WLB, so that just may be it.

Edit: Coordiator0 beat me to it.

keylime_5
05-09-2009, 10:17 AM
my afc north all stars

QB-Ben Roethlisberger
RB-Willie Parker
FB-Le'Ron McClain
WR-Chad Ochocinco
WR-Hines Ward
TE-Heath Miller....I mean Steve Heiden :p
T-Joe Thomas
G-Eric Steinbach
C-Matt Birk
G-Ben Grubbs
T-Jared Gaither

DE-Aaron Smith
NT-Shaun Rogers
DE-Haloti Ngata
OLB-James Harrison
ILB-James Farrior
ILB-Ray Lewis
OLB-Terrell Suggs
CB-Leon Hall
CB-Ike Taylor
FS-Ed Reed
SS-Troy Polamalu

Great front 7 division, terrible CB division.

TitanHope
05-09-2009, 11:01 AM
In Madden I believe ROLB = WLB and LOLB = SLB.

I thought it was the other way around. Right Outside Linebacker is behind the Right Defensive End, and Left Outside Linebacker is behind the Left Defensive End.

Ugh, I gotta check Madden...

marshallb
05-09-2009, 11:05 AM
i wouldnt put shaffer on there, he isnt even going to start without a competition. as of now the Bears have LT Pace and RT Williams

I totally forgot about Williams. I just figured that Shaffer was better than Cherilus, Cook, and whoever the Packers RT will be.

Draft King
05-09-2009, 11:29 AM
NFC South

QB - Drew Brees (Saints)
RB - Michael Turner (Falcons)
FB - Ovie Mughelli (Falcons)
WR - Steve Smith (Panthers)
WR - Roddy White (Falcons)
TE - Tony Gonzalez (Falcons)
LT: Jordan Gross (Panthers)
LG: Davin Joseph (Bucs)
C: Jeff Faine (Bucs)
RG: Jahri Evans (Saints)
RT: Jeff Otah (Panthers)

DE: Julius Peppers (Panthers)
DT: Jonathan Babineaux (Falcons)
DT: Sedrick Ellis (Saints)
DE: John Abraham (Falcons)
LB: Barrett Ruud (Bucs)
LB: Jonathan Vilma (Saints)
LB: Jon Beason (Panthers)
CB: Chris Gamble (Panthers)
CB: Richard Marshall (Panthers)
FS: Tanard Jackson (Bucs)
SS: Chris Harris (Panthers)

This would make 8 Panthers, 6 Falcons, 4 Bucs, and 4 Saints.

eaglesalltheway
05-09-2009, 12:45 PM
I agree with the 2 NFC East lists pretty much except I'd put Madison Hedgecock in as the FB.

Its close, I like Hedgecock a lot as a FB (someone will go there, I just know it), but i say it is a 3 way race between him, Sellers, and Weaver. Eagles bias aside, Weaver gets it for me, he is one of the most underrated signings of Free Agency. He can do everything, everything, and at an elite level. Ask the Seahawks fans about him, they'll tell you. I've seen him play a lot and when I hear the Eagles signed him i was beyond excited, since he is our first real FB since Jon Ritchie. Weaver coould easily go to the Pro Bowl this year and be lsited as the All-Pro, IMO, he is that good.

Rob S
05-09-2009, 01:00 PM
QB - Tom Brady (Patriots)
RB - Marshawn Lynch :) (Bills)
RB - Thomas Jones (Jets)
WR - Randy Moss (Patriots)
WR - Terrell Owens (Bills)
WR - Wes Welker (Patriots)
TE - Dustin Keller (Jets)
LT - Jake Long (Dolphins)
LG - Logan Mankins (Patriots)
C - Nick Mangold (Jets)
RG - Stephen Neal (Patriots)
RT - Vernon Carey (Dolphins)

Defense: 3-4, considering 3 of the 4 teams employ it. I wish all 4 would, however

LE - Ty Warren (Patriots)
DT - Vince Wilfork (Patriots) Kris Jenkins (Jets) It's a tossup IMO
RE - Richard Seymour (Patriots)
LOLB - Joey Porter (Dolphins)
ILB - Jerod Mayo (Patriots)
ILB - David Harris (Jets)
ROLB - Adalius Thomas (Patriots)
CB - Terrence McGee (Bills)
CB - Darrelle Revis (Jets)
SS - Donte Whitner (Bills)... AFC East is weak at SS
FS - Kerry Rhodes (Jets)

K - Stephen Gostkowski (Patriots)
P - Brian Moorman (Bills)
KR - Leon Washington (Jets)
PR - Roscoe Parrish (Bills) ;)

I would say Lee or Welker depending on how your doing this. If you are building a team, Welker in the slot is money. If you are saying who is the most talented, it Lee Evans imo.

TE sucks in the east.....I guess its Keller?

The OL seems right to me.

I think Wilfork is the NT if you are making a team bc he plays with both Warren and Seymour who are both slam dunks imo.

Cant argue with the LB choices.

Secondary looks right......if you have McGee at #1 over Revis tho your crazy.

K and P is what I would have. AFC East is LOADED with return talent btw. God, between Leon, Revis, McKelvin, Parrish, McGee, Ginn there are some absolutely NASTY return men.

Bills2083
05-09-2009, 01:06 PM
I would say Lee or Welker depending on how your doing this. If you are building a team, Welker in the slot is money. If you are saying who is the most talented, it Lee Evans imo.


I think Wilfork is the NT if you are making a team bc he plays with both Warren and Seymour who are both slam dunks imo.



Secondary looks right......if you have McGee at #1 over Revis tho your crazy.

.

I went with Welker just because he's the best slot-receiver in the NFL.
I'd have T.O./Moss on the outside with Welker in the slot.

Good point about Wilfork

And McGee came to mind first for CB so I put his name down first. Revis is better

Jakey
05-09-2009, 01:19 PM
I agree with the AFC North on the whole. But ive gotta say...Willis McGahee>Willie Parker.

CC.SD
05-09-2009, 01:32 PM
I agree with the AFC North on the whole. But ive gotta say...Willis McGahee>Willie Parker.

Willie has done a heckuva lot more in this league than Willis. In terms of bankable accomplishments, "Ohmygod did you SEE that knee injury" is still probably at the top of McGahee's list, whereas Willie has actually built himself a pretty shiny resume.

Jakey
05-09-2009, 01:37 PM
Willie has done a heckuva lot more in this league than Willis. In terms of bankable accomplishments, "Ohmygod did you SEE that knee injury" is still probably at the top of McGahee's list, whereas Willie has actually built himself a pretty shiny resume.

True true. I like Willie allot, and he's done allot for the Steelers. I just think he's kind of run out of steam the last season and a half.

I hope he proves me wrong :p

coordinator0
05-09-2009, 01:55 PM
AFC North has an epic pair of S's lol.

d34ng3l021
05-09-2009, 02:15 PM
Bryant>White. White will probably outproduce him this year though.

Gonzalez>Winslow but Winslow will probably outproduce him.

Blalock and McClure? I lol'd.

Gaines Adams is gonna blow up this year. Abraham is beginning his decline. I think Adams will prove the better player this year.

Phillips is the best SS in the division if he moves back there. Right now he's being tried out at LB.

We have had the Bryant and White debate. We will just agree to disagree.

Winslow outproducing Gonzalez may be a push; he could be relied on as a safety valve more often for the inexperienced Bucs QBs.

I don't understand whats to lol about McClure, especially over Faine. Jeff Faine was impressive in allowing 2.0 sacks and being penalized twice (2 holding calls), but McClure allowed 0.0 sacks and was penalized twice (0 holding calls) while being center for the team that was 2nd in rushing and allowed 17 sacks.

As for Blalock...I would change that to Jahri Evans (I forgot about him). Sears and Blalock could be a push though. Blalock was penalized 8 times and allowed 3 sacks while Sears was penalized 6 times and allowed 4.5 sacks. I can see why you would prefer Sears though.

I am not really sure what prompted you to say that Abraham is beginning his decline. Sure, he just had his 31st birthday, but regardless, he is still coming off of a career year. Estimating production out of Abraham is difficult, but in the past 2 seasons, he has started 32/32 games and has registered 26.5 sacks. This is not to say that Adams won't outproduce him though; I like Adams skill set and its only a matter of time before he puts it all together.

Phillips has always been an underrated player in my mind (he does a good job against the Falcons), but how is he the best SS in the division when he isn't even going to stay SS and another SS in the division has racked up 166 tackles, 2 interceptions, and 10 forced fumbles over the course of the last 2 years? Chris Harris is a beast.

Menardo75
05-09-2009, 02:22 PM
For the NFC West Justin Smith> Chris Long at this point.

diabsoule
05-09-2009, 02:26 PM
NFC South

QB - Drew Brees (Saints)
RB - Michael Turner (Falcons)
FB - Ovie Mughelli (Falcons)
WR - Steve Smith (Panthers)
WR - Roddy White (Falcons)
TE - Tony Gonzalez (Falcons)
LT: Jordan Gross (Panthers)
LG: Davin Joseph (Bucs)
C: Jeff Faine (Bucs)
RG: Jahri Evans (Saints)
RT: Jeff Otah (Panthers)

DE: Julius Peppers (Panthers)
DT: Jonathan Babineaux (Falcons)
DT: Sedrick Ellis (Saints)
DE: John Abraham (Falcons)
LB: Barrett Ruud (Bucs)
LB: Jonathan Vilma (Saints)
LB: Jon Beason (Panthers)
CB: Chris Gamble (Panthers)
CB: Richard Marshall (Panthers)
FS: Tanard Jackson (Bucs)
SS: Chris Harris (Panthers)

This would make 8 Panthers, 6 Falcons, 4 Bucs, and 4 Saints.

The NFC South's DT's are terrible.

The Unseen
05-09-2009, 02:32 PM
AFC South

QB - Peyton Manning - Colts
RB - Maurice Jones-Drew - Jaguars
FB - Greg Jones - Jaguars
WR - Andre Johnson - Texans
WR - Reggie Wayne - Colts
TE - Dallas Clark - Colts
LT - Michael Roos - Titans
LG - Vince Manuwai - Jaguars
C - Kevin Mawae - Titans
RG - Jake Scott - Titans
RT - David Stewart - Titans

LE - Mario Williams - Texans
DT - John Henderson - Jaguars
DT - Tony Brown - Titans
RE - Dwight Freeney - Colts
WLB - David Thornton - Titans
MLB - DeMeco Ryans - Texans
SLB - Keith Bullock - Titans
CB - Cortland Finnegan - Titans
CB - Rashean Mathis - Jaguars
FS - Michael Griffin - Titans
SS - Bob Sanders - Colts

I approve this one.

the decider13
05-09-2009, 02:41 PM
The NFC South's DT's are terrible.

Got nothing on the AFC west...the whole front four is terrible.

rockio42
05-09-2009, 04:08 PM
I thought it was the other way around. Right Outside Linebacker is behind the Right Defensive End, and Left Outside Linebacker is behind the Left Defensive End.

Ugh, I gotta check Madden...

Exactley, and RDE are usually the Weakwide DE and LDE are the Strongwide DE and therefore ROLB=WLB and LOLB=SLB

Mr. Hero
05-09-2009, 04:25 PM
NFC East
QB - Eli Manning/Donovan McNabb (I'd take eli over donovan, but that's probably because McNabb is always able to find a way to blow it in the playoffs while eli has proven himself to be one of the clutchest QBs in the league)
RB - Westy/Portis/Jacobs (had to go with that trio, westy's the best weapon, Portis the best all around back and Jacobs the most punishing runner/goal line back)
FB - Madison Hedgecock
WR - Roy Williams, Santana Moss and Desean Jackson (although I expect this list to change by next season with Thomas, Maclin, Nicks and Barden making an impact)
TE - Jason Witten
LT - David Diehl (wow does the east suck at LT, Samuels injuries have made him less of a player, Flozell is pretty much done and Peters just had one of the worst seasons I've ever scene from a tackle, and having been in buffalo that whole time I watched every painful whiff)
LG - Leonard Davis (him and Snee are the top two guards in teh east and both play RG so one of them will have to move to LG for this team)
C - O'Hara (I go with the smart vet over the bigger and stronger Gurode and Jackson because he's so huge to our oline consistency with his calls and smarts)
RG - Snee
RT - Shawn Andrews (only until Beatty pushes Diehl to RT though :p )

DE - Justin Tuck/Trent Cole
DT - Albert Haynesworth
DT - Jay Ratliff/Bunkley/Robbens (all three are coming off great seasons)
DE - Osi Umenyiora

OLB - DeMarcus Ware
MLB - London Fletcher (because AP got fat and Stewart wasn't as impressive was expected last year)
OLB - Michael Boley (didn't think Gaither/Jordan of the iggles were good enough although they're young, Rocky's been too mediocre despite his tools and none of the cowboys LBs outside of Ware and James fit a 4-3)

CB - Corey Webster
CB - Shelden Brown
CB - Carlos Rogers/Terrance Newman/Asante Samuel (Newman can't stay healthy, Rogers' ball skills are on par with Will Allen's and he isn't better than Brown and Webster in coverage, against the run or at jamming to make up for it, Asante is a playmaker who isn't on the other guys' level as a cover corner)
S - Laron Landry
S - Quentin Mickell (although by next year Kenny Phillips will have a legit case.

etk
05-09-2009, 04:41 PM
We have had the Bryant and White debate. We will just agree to disagree.

Winslow outproducing Gonzalez may be a push; he could be relied on as a safety valve more often for the inexperienced Bucs QBs.

I don't understand whats to lol about McClure, especially over Faine. Jeff Faine was impressive in allowing 2.0 sacks and being penalized twice (2 holding calls), but McClure allowed 0.0 sacks and was penalized twice (0 holding calls) while being center for the team that was 2nd in rushing and allowed 17 sacks.

As for Blalock...I would change that to Jahri Evans (I forgot about him). Sears and Blalock could be a push though. Blalock was penalized 8 times and allowed 3 sacks while Sears was penalized 6 times and allowed 4.5 sacks. I can see why you would prefer Sears though.

I am not really sure what prompted you to say that Abraham is beginning his decline. Sure, he just had his 31st birthday, but regardless, he is still coming off of a career year. Estimating production out of Abraham is difficult, but in the past 2 seasons, he has started 32/32 games and has registered 26.5 sacks. This is not to say that Adams won't outproduce him though; I like Adams skill set and its only a matter of time before he puts it all together.

Phillips has always been an underrated player in my mind (he does a good job against the Falcons), but how is he the best SS in the division when he isn't even going to stay SS and another SS in the division has racked up 166 tackles, 2 interceptions, and 10 forced fumbles over the course of the last 2 years? Chris Harris is a beast.

I don't like to go off stats for OLine. I've never seen anyone put McClure ahead of Faine so it was a bit of a shock to me. If you really think he's that great...then fine, because Faine is a bit overrated.

I've said this before, but I'm surprised that Sears has 4.5 sacks to his name. I haven't seen him give up a sack since his rookie year when he made the occasional mental error. He's powerful in the run game and effective pulling to the outside. He's helped open a lot of holes to the right outside (if only we had an explosive back last year). I feel pretty strongly that Sears is the best G in the division, but there are other good options so I don't expect everyone to agree.

Abraham is a great pass rusher, but 31 is usually when defensive linemen begin their decline. As long as he's healthy he'll rack up a lot of sacks. Adams should flourish under Bates in his 3rd year. He's also a complete player that helps the defense beyond the stat sheet. Abraham is more of a pure pass rusher. Still, it's just a projection for next year. We're ****** if Adams doesn't get double digit sacks.

Phillips was one of the biggest reasons for our success/decline last year. He steps up in the box and makes a lot of impact tackles for us to keep teams in 2nd/3rd and long. He does a good job in deep coverage as well. When he got hurt our run D suffered. Where he ranks depends on how you view the situation. Phillips is somewhat injury prone and probably doesn't fit as well in the new scheme (hence the LB tryout). Being an optimistic Phillips fan, I think he'll move back to SS, start for us and continue to play well. It's also very possible that Phillips starts at LB for us, making this a moot point. Again, it's all a matter of perspective.

Not a fan of any of those Panthers DBs. We torched them with Jeff Garcia throwing to 1 WR. They all looked lost.

BlindSite
05-09-2009, 07:17 PM
NFC South

QB - Jake Delhomme (Panther)
RB - DeAngelo Williams (Panther)
FB - Brad Hoover (Panther)
WR - Steve Smith (Panther)
WR - Mushin Muhummad (Panther)
TE - Jeff King (Panther)
LT - Jordan Gross (Panther)
LG - Travelle Wharton (Panther)
C - Ryan Kalil (Panther)
RG - Keydrick Vincent (Panther)
RT - Jeff Otah (Panther)

DE: Julius Peppers (Panther)
DT: Ma'ake Kemoeatu (Panther)
DT: Damoine Lewis (Panther)
DE: Tyler Brayton (Panther)
SLB: Nail Diggs (Panther)
MLB: Jon Beason (Panther)
WLB: Thomas Davis (Panther)
CB: Chris Gamble (Panther)
CB: Richard Marshall (Panther)
FS: Charles Godfrey (Panther)
SS: Chris Harris (Panther)







Just Kidding :p

QB - Drew Brees (Saints)
RB - Michael Turner (Falcons) / DeAngelo Williams (Panthers)
FB - Ovie Mughelli (Falcons)
WR - Roddy White (Falcons)
WR - Steve Smith (Panthers)
TE - Tony Gonzales (Falcons)
LT: Jordan Gross (Panthers) [Gross and Brown are similar in ability but I feel Gross is a better run blocker than Brown]
LG: Carl Nicks (Saints)
C: Jeff Faine (Bucs)
RG: Jahri Evans (Saints)
RT: Jeff Otah (Panthers)

DE: Julius Peppers (Panthers)
DT: Jonathan Babineaux (Falcons)
DT: Sedrick Ellis (Saints)
DE: John Abraham (Falcons)
SLB: Mike Peterson (Falcons)
MLB: Jon Beason (Panthers) [Vilma is good, but Beason is better]
WLB: Angelo Crowell (Bucs)
CB: Chris Gamble (Panthers)
CB: Richard Marshall (Panthers)
FS: Tanard Jackson (Bucs)
SS: Chris Harris (Panther)

7 Panthers, 7 Falcons, 4 Saints, 3 Bucs, pretty fair when you consider the performances of the team's last year

diabsoule
05-09-2009, 08:25 PM
NFC South

QB - Drew Brees (Saints)
RB - Michael Turner (Falcons)
FB - Ovie Mughelli (Falcons)
WR - Steve Smith (Panthers)
WR - Roddy White (Falcons)
TE - Tony Gonzalez (Falcons)
LT: Jordan Gross (Panthers)
LG: Davin Joseph (Bucs)
C: Jeff Faine (Bucs)
RG: Jahri Evans (Saints)
RT: Jeff Otah (Panthers)

DE: Julius Peppers (Panthers)
DT: Jonathan Babineaux (Falcons)
DT: Sedrick Ellis (Saints)
DE: John Abraham (Falcons)
LB: Barrett Ruud (Bucs)
LB: Jonathan Vilma (Saints)
LB: Jon Beason (Panthers)
CB: Chris Gamble (Panthers)
CB: Richard Marshall (Panthers)
FS: Tanard Jackson (Bucs)
SS: Chris Harris (Panthers)

This would make 8 Panthers, 6 Falcons, 4 Bucs, and 4 Saints.

This is probably the best team as a whole. Beason at WLB and Vilma at MLB with Ruud playing SLB.

I think it might just be a push as far as who is better between Davin Joseph and Carl Nicks. Actually, I'd replace Jahri Evans with Davin Joseph and insert Carl Nicks at LG.

Dam8610
05-09-2009, 08:26 PM
AFC South

QB: Peyton Manning (Colts)
RB: Chris Johnson (Titans)
WR: Andre Johnson (Texans)
WR: Reggie Wayne (Colts)
TE: Dallas Clark (Colts)
TE: Owen Daniels (Texans)
LT: Michael Roos (Titans)
LG: Vince Manuwai (Jaguars)
C: Jeff Saturday (Colts)
RG: Jake Scott (Titans)
RT: David Stewart (Titans)

If I were to pick a FB, it would be Greg Jones, and my 3rd WR would be Torry Holt, but Peyton Manning operates best in a 2 TE set, and I feel the 2 TE set in this case puts the most offensive talent on the field for the AFC South. Some positions I think could change by season's end: RB, LT, LG, C

RE: Dwight Freeney (Colts)
UT: Amobi Okoye (Texans) (the AFC South is weak and/or unproven here)
NT: John Henderson (Jaguars)
LE: Mario Williams (Texans)
WLB: David Thornton (Titans)
MLB: DeMeco Ryans (Texans)
SLB: Keith Bulluck (Titans)
CB: Cortland Finnegan (Titans)
CB: Kelvin Hayden (Colts)
FS: Michael Griffin (Titans)
SS: Bob Sanders (Colts)

Positions I think could change by season's end: UT, WLB, SLB, CB

DoughBoy
05-09-2009, 09:16 PM
Kelvin Hayden is very good and very underrated but Rasheen Mathis is nearly a shutdown corner.

diabsoule
05-09-2009, 09:28 PM
If we can get guys to agree on one specific team we could have matchups to see whose division has the best All Pro team.

Go_Eagles77
05-09-2009, 09:34 PM
I'm surprised more people didn't make an NFC East one, so far the only 2 ones are made by eagles fans. We need more opinions.

SuperMcGee
05-09-2009, 09:56 PM
QB - Tom Brady (Patriots)
RB - Marshawn Lynch :) (Bills)
RB - Thomas Jones (Jets)
WR - Randy Moss (Patriots)
WR - Terrell Owens (Bills)
WR - Wes Welker (Patriots)
TE - Dustin Keller (Jets)
LT - Jake Long (Dolphins)
LG - Logan Mankins (Patriots)
C - Nick Mangold (Jets)
RG - Stephen Neal (Patriots)
RT - Vernon Carey (Dolphins)

Defense: 3-4, considering 3 of the 4 teams employ it. I wish all 4 would, however

LE - Ty Warren (Patriots)
DT - Vince Wilfork (Patriots) Kris Jenkins (Jets) It's a tossup IMO
RE - Richard Seymour (Patriots)
LOLB - Joey Porter (Dolphins)
ILB - Jerod Mayo (Patriots)
ILB - David Harris (Jets)
ROLB - Adalius Thomas (Patriots)
CB - Terrence McGee (Bills)
CB - Darrelle Revis (Jets)
SS - Donte Whitner (Bills)... AFC East is weak at SS
FS - Kerry Rhodes (Jets)

K - Stephen Gostkowski (Patriots)
P - Brian Moorman (Bills)
KR - Leon Washington (Jets)
PR - Roscoe Parrish (Bills) ;)

This is the team I would agree most with. Only differences might be in who I took at RB. Not many options at RG and SS. I'd take the same guys that you did, with the anticipated move of Butler away from RG making it a little easier. Again, that wouldn't have been anything great.

Both safeties had disappointing years and Whitner could easily be replaced if somebody else stepped up. I'm not as totally down on Whitner as a lot of others. I won't give him a pass for playing hurt, he definitely needs to step up his game. But his leadership role seals it for me. That might be a little biased, but I don't see a better option in this division, regardless. He hasn't met expectations, but I absolutely back him as our defensive captain and leader.

Leon is a great dual returner and is the pick if you're going KR/PR. But if you're going to split up kicks and punts I feel that Buffalo is better represented at each spot, but it's just an imaginary luxury getting to choose between those guys.

Some discrepancy in the LB spot among the AFCE teams. Not much experience between Mayo, Poz, and Harris. At their best, Mayo and Harris have much more of an impact.

Dam8610
05-10-2009, 02:15 AM
Kelvin Hayden is very good and very underrated but Rasheen Mathis is nearly a shutdown corner.

I really think Mathis has been getting by on rep for a while now. Last year, I'd've put him at the top of the list, but not anymore.

The Legend
05-10-2009, 04:56 AM
AFC North

QB - Ben Roethlisberger
RB - Willie Parker
FB - Le'Ron McClain
WR - Bryalon Edwards
WR - Chad Johnson
TE - Heath Miller
OT - Joe Thomas
OG - Eric Steinbach
OC - Matt Birk
OG - Ben Grubbs
OT - Jared Gaithers

DE - Terrell Suggs
DT - Haloti Ngata
DT - Shaun Rogers
DE - Lamar Woodley
LB - James Harrison
LB - Ray Lewis
LB - Keith Rivers
CB - Fabian Washington
FS - Ed Reed
SS - Troy Polamalu
CB - Ike Taylor

K - Shayne Graham
P - Sam Koch
R - Chris Carr

j05son
05-10-2009, 05:30 AM
AFC North

QB - Ben Roethlisberger
RB - Willie Parker
FB - Le'Ron McClain
WR - Bryalon Edwards
WR - Chad Johnson
TE - Heath Miller
OT - Joe Thomas
OG - Eric Steinbach
OC - Matt Birk
OG - Ben Grubbs
OT - Jared Gaithers

DE - Terrell Suggs
DT - Haloti Ngata
DT - Shaun Rogers
DE - Lamar Woodley
LB - James Harrison
LB - Ray Lewis
LB - Keith Rivers
CB - Fabian Washington
FS - Ed Reed
SS - Troy Polamalu
CB - Ike Taylor

K - Shayne Graham
P - Sam Koch
R - Chris Carr

Other than RT, you and I have the same exact offense. Interesting that you're running a 4-3 when 3/4 of the divison runs 3-4. It works though. Carr over Cribbs as a returner though? Come on...

YAYareaRB
05-10-2009, 09:43 AM
Joe Staley wants your vote!

etk
05-10-2009, 11:21 AM
This is probably the best team as a whole. Beason at WLB and Vilma at MLB with Ruud playing SLB.

I think it might just be a push as far as who is better between Davin Joseph and Carl Nicks. Actually, I'd replace Jahri Evans with Davin Joseph and insert Carl Nicks at LG.

Not sure what you think about Vilma, but Ruud is a MLB all the way. He has the coverage and pursuit angles perfected. I'd put Vilma at SLB and keep Ruud at MLB.

G is a toss-up really.

Sniper
05-10-2009, 11:59 AM
NFC East

QB- Donovan McNabb (Eagles)
RB- Take your pick
FB- Madison Hedgecock (Giants)
WR- DeSean Jackson (Eagles)
WR- Santana Moss (Redskins)
TE- Jason Witten (Cowboys)
LT- Chris Samuels (Redskins)
LG- Chris Snee (Giants)
C- Shaun O'Hara (Giants)
RG- Leonard Davis (Cowboys)
RT- Shawn Andrews (Eagles)

DE- Trent Cole (Eagles)
DT- Brodrick Bunkley (Eagles)
DT- Albert Haynesworth (Redskins)
DE- Osi Umenyiora (Giants)
LB- DeMarcus Ware (Cowboys)
LB- Stewart Bradley (Eagles)
LB- London Fletcher-Baker (Redskins)
CB- Sheldon Brown (Eagles)
FS- LaRon Landry (Redskins)
SS- Quintin Mikell (Eagles)
CB- Corey Webster (Giants)

Gay Ork Wang
05-10-2009, 12:01 PM
id take Roy Williams over DeSean Jackson and prolly tuck over cole

Sniper
05-10-2009, 12:19 PM
id take Roy Williams over DeSean Jackson and prolly tuck over cole

Yeah, Roy Williams sure did a lot to merit that last season. :rolleyes:

Gay Ork Wang
05-10-2009, 12:21 PM
Yeah, Roy Williams sure did a lot to merit that last season. :rolleyes:
so we are basing this only on last season? Roy Williams still has shown that he is a lot more capable.

Sniper
05-10-2009, 12:24 PM
so we are basing this only on last season?

That's what I thought we were doing. Hank Baskett had more yards and touchdowns than Roy Williams. Hell, 12 players in the NFC East had more receiving yards last year than Roy Williams. How am I supposed to justify having him as the #1 or #2 receiver in the division?

Gay Ork Wang
05-10-2009, 12:30 PM
That's what I thought we were doing. Hank Baskett had more yards and touchdowns than Roy Williams. Hell, 12 players in the NFC East had more receiving yards last year than Roy Williams. How am I supposed to justify having him as the #1 or #2 receiver in the division?
he actually has the credentials, he was traded during mid season, it takes some time to get used to everything. i mean everyone said Peyton Manning struggled because he missed part of TC. Roy williams never played with the team. now with him actually being the #1, i believe he will get based on his productions on the Lions, id take him over DeSean. that said, another one of those seasons, i can see it, but at this point id take Roy over DeSean

Sniper
05-10-2009, 12:33 PM
he actually has the credentials, he was traded during mid season, it takes some time to get used to everything. i mean everyone said Peyton Manning struggled because he missed part of TC. Roy williams never played with the team. now with him actually being the #1, i believe he will get based on his productions on the Lions, id take him over DeSean. that said, another one of those seasons, i can see it, but at this point id take Roy over DeSean

So because he got traded, that means he can lazily round off routes, get meh hands, and not get more than 3 catches in any game with his new team? Super. Hooray for excuses.

Gay Ork Wang
05-10-2009, 12:39 PM
So because he got traded, that means he can lazily round off routes, get meh hands, and not get more than 3 catches in any game with his new team? Super. Hooray for excuses.
i believe its the same with Julius Peppers and his down year. everyone has down years. he still was one of the top WRs before.

Mr. Hero
05-10-2009, 12:58 PM
I'm surprised more people didn't make an NFC East one, so far the only 2 ones are made by eagles fans. We need more opinions.

NFC East
QB - Eli Manning/Donovan McNabb (I'd take eli over donovan, but that's probably because McNabb is always able to find a way to blow it in the playoffs while eli has proven himself to be one of the clutchest QBs in the league)
RB - Westy/Portis/Jacobs (had to go with that trio, westy's the best weapon, Portis the best all around back and Jacobs the most punishing runner/goal line back)
FB - Madison Hedgecock
WR - Roy Williams, Santana Moss and Desean Jackson (although I expect this list to change by next season with Thomas, Maclin, Nicks and Barden making an impact)
TE - Jason Witten
LT - David Diehl (wow does the east suck at LT, Samuels injuries have made him less of a player, Flozell is pretty much done and Peters just had one of the worst seasons I've ever seen from a tackle, and having been in buffalo that whole time I watched every painful whiff)
LG - Leonard Davis (him and Snee are the top two guards in teh east and both play RG so one of them will have to move to LG for this team)
C - O'Hara (I go with the smart vet over the bigger and stronger Gurode and Jackson because he's so huge to our oline consistency with his calls and smarts)
RG - Snee
RT - Shawn Andrews (only until Beatty pushes Diehl to RT though :p )

DE - Justin Tuck/Trent Cole
DT - Albert Haynesworth
DT - Jay Ratliff/Bunkley/Robbens (all three are coming off great seasons)
DE - Osi Umenyiora

OLB - DeMarcus Ware
MLB - London Fletcher (because AP got fat and Stewart wasn't as impressive as was expected last year)
OLB - Michael Boley (didn't think Gaither/Jordan of the iggles were good enough although they're young, Rocky's been too mediocre despite his tools and none of the cowboys LBs outside of Ware and James fit a 4-3)

CB - Corey Webster
CB - Shelden Brown
CB - Carlos Rogers/Terrance Newman/Asante Samuel (Newman can't stay healthy, Rogers' ball skills are on par with Will Allen's and he isn't better than Brown and Webster in coverage, against the run or at jamming to make up for it, Asante is a playmaker who isn't on the other guys' level as a cover corner)
S - Laron Landry
S - Quentin Mickell (although by next year Kenny Phillips will have a legit case)

ten freakin characters

Pb&j
05-10-2009, 01:21 PM
AFC North

QB: Roethlisberger
RB: Parker
FB: McClain (Vickers a close second, a beastly blocker)
WR: Edwards
WR: Ward
TE: Miller
LT: Thomas
LG: Steinbach
C: Mack (I know, I know. He is a rookie. But I think with the talent on that line he will come out and be great from the get go)
RG: Whitworth (Ryan Tucker if healthy would go here. The one game he played in 2008 was when the browns beat up the giants. He honestly is the best player on the brown's line when he is healthy.)
RT: Gaither

DE: Ngata
NT: Rogers
De: Smith
LOLB: Harrison (He is freakishly strong, could play on the strong side)
LILB: Lewis
RILB: Farior
ROLB: Suggs
CB: Wright
CB:Taylor
FS: Reed
SS: Pollyneedsahaircut

K: Dawson (Mr. Deflection)
P: Sepulveda (I think he is a good punter)
RS/Special teams whiz: Cribbs

SeanTaylorRIP
05-10-2009, 01:32 PM
Gaither is a LT.

Pb&j
05-10-2009, 01:34 PM
I know, but nothing says he couldn't play on the right side.

abaddon41_80
05-10-2009, 02:28 PM
NFC West

QB: Kurt Warner (AZ)
RB: Frank Gore (SF)
FB: Owen Schmitt (SEA)
WR: Larry Fitzgerald (AZ)
WR: Anquan Boldin (AZ)
TE: John Carlson (SEA)
LT: Walter Jones (SEA)
LG: Davis Baas (SF)
C: Jason Brown (STL)
RG: Deuce Lutui (ARI)
RT: Joe Staley (SF)

RDE: Chris Long (STL)
NT: Brandon Mebane (SEA)
UT: Justin Smith (SF)
LDE: Patrick Kerney (SEA)
OLB: Karlos Dansby(AZ)
ILB: Patrick Willis(SF)
OLB: LeRoy Hill(SEA)
CB: Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie(AZ)
FS: O.J Atogwe(STL)
SS: Adrian Wilson(AZ)
CB: Nate Clements(SF)

2nd Team

QB: Shaun Hill (SF)
RB: Steven Jackson (STL)
FB: Mike Karney (STL)
WR: T.J. Houshmanzadeh (SEA)
WR: Donnie Avery (STL)
TE: Vernon Davis (SF)
LT: Mike Gandy (ARI)
LG: Reggie Wells (ARI)
C: Chris Spencer (SEA)
RG: Chilo Rachal (SF)
RT: Sean Locklear (SEA)

RDE: Bertrand Berry (ARI)
UT: Darnell Dockett (ARI)
NT: Aubrayo Franklin (SF)
LDE: Umm...Parys Haralson (SF)?
OLB: Aaron Curry (SEA-R)
ILB: Lofa Tatupu (SEA)
OLB: Manny Lawson (SF)
CB: Marcus Trufant (SEA)
FS: Antrel Rolle (ARI)
SS: Michael Lewis (SF)
CB: Ron Bartell (STL)

Jensen
05-10-2009, 02:54 PM
How do you not have Darnell Dockett on the 1st team? You didn't even put him on the 2nd team either. I would take Dockett over all 4 DT's you have on both the teams. I'm hoping you just forgot about him somehow.

dunagan15
05-10-2009, 02:59 PM
NFC South

QB - Drew Brees (Saints)
RB - Michael Turner (Falcons)/Deangelo Williams (Panthers)
FB - Ovie Mughelli (Falcons)
WR - Steve Smith (Panthers)
WR - Roddy White (Falcons)
TE - Tony Gonzalez (Falcons)
LT: Jordan Gross (Panthers)
LG: Davin Joseph (Bucs)
C: Todd McClure (Falcons)
RG: Jahri Evans (Saints)
RT: Jeff Otah (Panthers)

DE: Julius Peppers (Panthers)
DT: Jonathan Babineaux (Falcons)
DT: Sedrick Ellis (Saints)
DE: John Abraham (Falcons)
SLB: Barrett Ruud (Bucs)
MLB: Jonathan Vilma (Saints)
WLB: Jon Beason (Panthers)
CB: Chris Gamble (Panthers)
CB: Richard Marshall (Panthers)
FS: Tanard Jackson (Bucs)
SS: Chris Harris (Panthers)

K: Jason Elam (Falcons)
P: Michael Koenan (Falcons)
KR/PR: Reggie Bush (Saints)

BmoreBlackByrdz
05-10-2009, 04:01 PM
Heres mine for the AFC North-

QB- Ben Roethlisberger (Carson Palmer is the better QB when healthy though)
RB- Willie Parker
FB- Le'Ron McClain
TE- Heath Miller
WR- Braylon Edwards
WR- Santonio Holmes
SlotWR- Derrick Mason
LT- Jared Gaither
LG- Ben Brubbs
C- Matt Birk
RG- Eric Stienbach
RT- Joe Thomas

Defense(3-4)
DE- Aaron Smith
NT- Shaun Rogers
DE- Haloti Ngata
LOLB- Terrell Suggs
MLB- D'Qwell Jackson
MLB- Ray Lewis
ROLB- James Harrison
CB1- Ike Taylor
CB2- Dominqiue Foxworth
Nickel- Fabian Washington and/or Eric Wright
FS- Ed Reed
SS- Troy Polumalu

K- Phil Dawson
P- Sam Koch, he had a GREAT year.
KR- Josh Cribbs
PR- Josh Cribbs

I put Suggs over Woodley because he is way more complete as a linebacker. Mason over Chad OchoStinko cause he's more productive and doesn't have the huge annoying mouth. Plus he's just way to underrated. And I'm suprised nobody has put mentioned Foxworth yet, he is probably the best corner on the Ravens and 2nd best in the division. D'Qwell over Farrior because he's younger, faster, and more "impact" plays.

Heres my NFC East as well, keep in mind I'm not a huge follower of them.

QB- Donovan McNabb
RB- Clinton Portis
FB- Mike Sellers
TE- Jason Witten
WR- Roy Williams
WR- DeSean Jackson
Slot- Santana Moss
LT- Chris Samuels
LG- Chris Snee
C- Shaun O'Hara
RG- Shaun Andrews
RT- Jason Peters (had a terrible year, but was solid the year before, should have it easy at RT)

Defense(4-3)
DE- Trent Cole
DT- Albert Haynesworth
DT- Jay Ratliff
DE- Osi Umenyiora
WLB- Demarcus Ware
MLB- London Fletcher(vastly underrated)
SLB- IDK?? Clint Sintim??
CB1- Aaron Ross
CB2- Asante Samuel
Nickel- Corey Webster
FS- Quentin Mikel
SS- LaRon Landy

Smooth Criminal
05-10-2009, 04:27 PM
I like that team alot for the North, other than I'd take Farrior over Jackson, put Thomas and Steinbach on the left side, and Ward over Mason. Other than that it looks great.

Malaka
05-10-2009, 06:54 PM
NFC East

QB: Donovan McNabb
RB: Clinton Portis
FB: Mike Sellers
WR 1: Roy Williams
WR 2: Santana Moss
WR 3: DeSean Jackson
TE: Jason Witten
LT: David Diehl
LG: Leonard Davis
C: Shaun O'Hara
RG: Chris Snee
RT: Shawn Andrews

4-3 Defense
DE: Justin Tuck
DT: Jay Ratliff
DT: Albert Haynesworth
DE: Osi Umenyiora
OLB: DeMarcus Ware
MLB: London Fletcher-Baker
OLB: Michael Boley
CB: Sheldon Brown
CB: Corey Webster
Nickel: Asante Samuel
FS: Laron Landry
SS: Quintin Mikell

K Nick Folk
P Jeff Feagles

KR/PR DeSean Jackson

Mr. Hero
05-10-2009, 07:36 PM
BBB Aaron Ross as the number one corner in the NFC east? I'm a giants homer and all but that's crazy. Ross definitely isn't even close to as good as Webster, Brown, Newman, Rogers or Samuel and isn't even significantly better than Terrell Thomas, there's a real good chance he's the third best corner on the giants.

DoughBoy
05-10-2009, 07:39 PM
If everyone can agree on a team for their division I would like to make a thread with a poll and we can have a vote on which division has the best talent. I can make it like a playoff with the divisions with the lowest votes in a wildcard game type thing and everyone on NLFDC can vote for who they think will win the game.

the decider13
05-11-2009, 09:35 AM
This one is pretty well agreed on for the AFC west

QB-Philip Rivers (SD)
RB-Ladanian Tomlinson (SD)
FB- Peyton Hillis (DEN)
WR-Brandon Marshall (DEN)
WR-Dwayne Bowe (KC)
TE- Antonio Gates (SD)

LT- Ryan Clady (DEN)
LG-Kris Dielman (SD)
C-Nick Hardwick(SD)
G- Robert Gallery (OAK)
RT-Ryan Harris (DEN)


DE-Derrick Burgess (OAK)
DT-Jamal Williams (SD)
DT-Tommy Kelly (OAK)
DE-Luis Castillo (SD)

LB- Shawn Merriman (SD)
LB-DJ Williams (DEN)
LB- Thomas Howard (OAK)

CB-Nmadi Asomougha (OAK)
CB-Champ Bailey (DEN)
S- Brian Dawkins (DEN)
S- Bernard Pollard (KC)

terribletowel39
05-11-2009, 09:57 AM
Ben Roethlisberger-QB-PIT
Willie Parker-RB-PIT
LeRon McClain-FB-BAL
Braylon Edwards-WR-CLE
Santonio Holmes-WR-PIT
Heath Miller-TE-PIT

Haloti Ngata-RE-BAL
Casey Hampton-NT-PIT
Aaron Smith-LE-PIT
James Harrison-ROLB-PIT
Ray Lewis-ILB-BAL
James Farrior-ILB-PIT
Lamaar Woodley-LOLB-PIT
Jonathan Joseph-CB-CIN
Ike Taylor-CB-PIT
Ed Reed-FS-PIT
Troy Polamalu-SS-PIT

Shayne Graham-K-CIN
Joshua Cribbs-KR/PR-CLE

I don't know enough about the other three teams lineman and I know none of our lineman would be the best, so I left that blank. Same goes for the punters. I would have put Supelvda but he didn't play last year....

XxXdragonXxX
05-11-2009, 10:22 AM
How do you not have Darnell Dockett on the 1st team? You didn't even put him on the 2nd team either. I would take Dockett over all 4 DT's you have on both the teams. I'm hoping you just forgot about him somehow.

Yeah thats pretty terrible...

Also Shaun Hill over Hasselbeck on the 2nd team is terrible too. Funny how far you can drop in some peoples eyes when you play with a back injury, your 7th WR starting and all 5 starting OL injured.

Gay Ork Wang
05-11-2009, 10:27 AM
QB-Jay Cutler (Chi), Aaron Rodgers (GB)
RB- Adrian Peterson (Vik), Matt Forte (Chi)
WR- Calvin Johnson (Det)
WR- Greg Jennings (GB)
WR- Bernard Berrian (Vik)
TE- Greg Olsen (Chi)

LT- Bryant McKinney (Vik)
LG- Steve Hutchinson (Vik
C- Olin Kreutz (Chi)
G- Anthony Herrera (Vik)
RT- Mark Tauscher (GB) (the North has some pretty bad RTs. Cook, Cherilus are not that great and well the bears will start Williams)


DE- Jared Allen (Vik)
DT- Pat Williams (Vik)
DT- Kevin Williams (Vik)
DE- Aaron Kampman (GB)

OLB- Lance Briggs (Chi)
MLB- Brian Urlacher (Chi)/E.J. Henderson (Vik)
OLB- Chad Greenway (Vik)

CB- Charles Woodson (GB)
CB- Antoine Winfield (Vik)
FS- Nick Collins (GB)
SS- Kevin Payne (Chi)

K- Jason Hanson (Det)/Robbie Gould (Chi)
P- Brad Maynard (Chi)
KR- Danieal Manning (Chi)
PR- Devin Hester (Chi)

well i think that should be fine

abaddon41_80
05-11-2009, 11:37 AM
How do you not have Darnell Dockett on the 1st team? You didn't even put him on the 2nd team either. I would take Dockett over all 4 DT's you have on both the teams. I'm hoping you just forgot about him somehow.

I don't know how I forget about Dockett. I just put Carriker in there because I couldn't think of anyone else. Dockett would play (plays) UT in a 4-3 defense and wouldn't make a good NT in a 4-3 if you ask me. That is why he would only be on the 2nd team because I would prefer Smith at UT slightly over Dockett.

cdub11
05-11-2009, 01:00 PM
NFC East

QB: Donovan McNabb
RB: Clinton Portis
RB: Brian Westbrook
WR: Roy Williams
WR: Santana Moss
TE: Jason Witten
OT: Chris Samuels
OG: Chris Snee
C: Andre Gurode
OG: Leonard Davis
OT: Shawn Andrews


DE: Justin Tuck
DT: Albert Haynesworth
DT: Jay Ratliff
DE: Osi Umenyiora
LB: Demarcus Ware
LB: London Fletcher
LB: Stewart Bradley
CB: Sheldon Brown
FS: Laron Landry
SS: Quentin Mikell
CB: Terence Newman

marshallb
05-11-2009, 04:07 PM
QB-Jay Cutler (Chi), Aaron Rodgers (GB)
RB- Adrian Peterson (Vik), Matt Forte (Chi)
WR- Calvin Johnson (Det)
WR- Greg Jennings (GB)
WR- Bernard Berrian (Vik)
TE- Greg Olsen (Chi)

LT- Bryant McKinney (Vik)
LG- Steve Hutchinson (Vik
C- Olin Kreutz (Chi)
G- Anthony Herrera (Vik)
RT- Mark Tauscher (GB) (the North has some pretty bad RTs. Cook, Cherilus are not that great and well the bears will start Williams)


DE- Jared Allen (Vik)
DT- Pat Williams (Vik)
DT- Kevin Williams (Vik)
DE- Aaron Kampman (GB)

OLB- Lance Briggs (Chi)
MLB- Brian Urlacher (Chi)/E.J. Henderson (Vik)
OLB- Chad Greenway (Vik)

CB- Charles Woodson (GB)
CB- Antoine Winfield (Vik)
FS- Nick Collins (GB)
SS- Kevin Payne (Chi)

K- Jason Hanson (Det)/Robbie Gould (Chi)
P- Brad Maynard (Chi)
KR- Danieal Manning (Chi)
PR- Devin Hester (Chi)

well i think that should be fine

that looks quite good, but I'm pretty sure that Tauscher is still a FA.

Jensen
05-11-2009, 04:24 PM
I don't know how I forget about Dockett. I just put Carriker in there because I couldn't think of anyone else. Dockett would play (plays) UT in a 4-3 defense and wouldn't make a good NT in a 4-3 if you ask me. That is why he would only be on the 2nd team because I would prefer Smith at UT slightly over Dockett.

Yeah, he plays DE in the 3-4. He is nowhere near big enough to play NT. What I meant by my comment was that if those 4 DT's were being offered to me I would take Dockett if neither was a position of need. If you like Smith at UT better than Dockett, that's fine, it's your opinion.

fenikz
05-11-2009, 04:31 PM
...wow sorry but Smith over Dockett is just...wow

Gay Ork Wang
05-11-2009, 04:34 PM
ahahahah Dockett not good enough hahahahaha

BmoreBlackByrdz
05-11-2009, 06:29 PM
Ben Roethlisberger-QB-PIT
Willie Parker-RB-PIT
LeRon McClain-FB-BAL
Braylon Edwards-WR-CLE
Santonio Holmes-WR-PIT
Heath Miller-TE-PIT

Haloti Ngata-RE-BAL
Casey Hampton-NT-PIT
Aaron Smith-LE-PIT
James Harrison-ROLB-PIT
Ray Lewis-ILB-BAL
James Farrior-ILB-PIT
Lamaar Woodley-LOLB-PIT
Jonathan Joseph-CB-CIN
Ike Taylor-CB-PIT
Ed Reed-FS-PIT
Troy Polamalu-SS-PIT

Shayne Graham-K-CIN
Joshua Cribbs-KR/PR-CLE

I don't know enough about the other three teams lineman and I know none of our lineman would be the best, so I left that blank. Same goes for the punters. I would have put Supelvda but he didn't play last year....

Put Suggs over Woodley and Shaun Rogers over Casey Hampton. They both are clearly better.(IMO) Also, I personally prefer Hines Ward or Derrick Mason over Braylon Edwards. Both those guys are more consistent and have much better hands. Also, you should out Dominique Foxworth over Jonathan Joesph, he was a stud in Atlanta last year. And put Sam Koch in as a punter, the guy had a fantastic year in 08.

abaddon41_80
05-11-2009, 06:39 PM
...wow sorry but Smith over Dockett is just...wow

I don't really see a problem with that. Smith was much better than Dockett last season as well as in 2004, 2005, and 2006. Dockett had a great first half of the year in 2007 but other than that, and the playoffs last year, it is not like he has been great.

TitanHope
05-11-2009, 07:28 PM
I don't really see a problem with that. Smith was much better than Dockett last season as well as in 2004, 2005, and 2006. Dockett had a great first half of the year in 2007 but other than that, and the playoffs last year, it is not like he has been great.

Justin Smith played LE in Cincy's 4-3 before he came to SF. Dockett played 3-4 DE and 4-3 UT in his time in Arizona. So, how can you compare the two? Smith has played the 5-tech for one year, but I assume he went inside to UT when SF would switch to the 4-3 front? I'd go with Dockett over Smith, but Dockett is one of my favorite DT's in the NFL.

Either way, why not just play both Dockett and Smith and play a 1-gap DL? I think Karlos Dansby would be great knifing in with Dockett and Smith jumping gaps and disrupting plays. Plus, Patrick Willis is tha boss.

holt_bruce81
05-11-2009, 08:49 PM
NFC West

QB Kurt Warner(AZ)
RB Steven Jackson(STL)
FB Mike Karney(STL)
WR Larry Fitzgerald(AZ)
WR Anquan Boldin(AZ)
Slot Donnie Avery (STL)
TE John Carlson(SEA)
LT Walter Jones(SEA)
LG Mike Wahle(SEA)
C Jason Brown(STL)
RG Reggie Wells(AZ)
RT Levi Brown(AZ)

RDE Darryl Tapp (SEA)
NT Gabe Watson(AZ)
DT Clifton Ryan (STL)
LDE Chris Long(STL)
OLB Karlos Dansby(AZ)
MLB Patrick Willis(SF)
OLB Will Witherspoon(STL)
CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie(AZ)
FS O.J Atogwe(STL)
SS Adrian Wilson(AZ)
CB Ron Bartell(STL)

Jensen
05-11-2009, 09:31 PM
Clifton Ryan? Really? He's been decent, but nowhere near All-Pro worthy for an entire division. A lot more better choices than him. I'm really hoping that is an extreme extreme homer pick.

cunningham06
05-11-2009, 09:51 PM
NFC East:

QB: Tony Romo (Cowboys)
RB: Clinton Portis (Redskins)
FB: Mike Sellers (Redskins)
WR: Roy Williams (Cowboys)
WR: DeSean Jackson (Eagles)
TE: Jason Witten (Cowboys)

LT: Jason Peters (Eagles)
LG: Chris Snee (Giants)
C: Shaun O'Hara (Giants)
RG: Leonard Davis (Cowboys)
RT: Shawn Andrews (Eagles)

DE: Justin Tuck (Giants)
DT: Albert Haynesworth (Redskins)
DT: Broderick Bunkley (Eagles)
DE: Trent Cole (Eagles)

LB: Demarcus Ware (Cowboys)
LB: London Fletcher (Redskins)
LB: Rocky McIntosh (Redskins)

CB: Asante Samuel (Eagles)
SS: Quintin Mikell (Eagles)
FS: Laron Landry (Redskins)
CB: Terrence Newman (Cowboys)
CB: Sheldon Brown (Eagles)

K: Nick Folk (Edit: Cowboys)
P: Jeff Feagles (Giants)
KR: Ellis Hobbs (Eagles)
PR: Desean Jackson (Eagles)

YAYareaRB
05-11-2009, 10:09 PM
Ron Bartell.. over Nate Clements?

terribletowel39
05-11-2009, 10:37 PM
Put Suggs over Woodley and Shaun Rogers over Casey Hampton. They both are clearly better.(IMO) Also, I personally prefer Hines Ward or Derrick Mason over Braylon Edwards. Both those guys are more consistent and have much better hands. Also, you should out Dominique Foxworth over Jonathan Joesph, he was a stud in Atlanta last year. And put Sam Koch in as a punter, the guy had a fantastic year in 08.
Suggs over Woodley, you can make an argument. Not for Shaun Rogers though. Hampton has been the best or 2nd best NT in the league for the past 8-9 seasons. After one good year Rogers doesn't get to replace him. Foxworth couldn't have been that good last year if Atlanta released him. Joseph has top 5 potential, if he could stay healthy. And sure Sam Koch as my punter is fine. I wouldn't be too concerned who the punter is with that defense.

fenikz
05-11-2009, 10:40 PM
wow, I feel like being in the this is making me dumber

XxXdragonXxX
05-11-2009, 11:06 PM
RDE Darryl Tapp (SEA)




Really?

The guy is a pass rushing specialist...and he's average at that. The only thing he's ever done is get 4 sacks against the Rams 2 years ago...which is 1/4 of his sack production in 3 years as a pro.

If you want a Seahawk at DE its Kerney, not Tapp.

holt_bruce81
05-11-2009, 11:06 PM
Clifton Ryan? Really? He's been decent, but nowhere near All-Pro worthy for an entire division. A lot more better choices than him. I'm really hoping that is an extreme extreme homer pick.

Yes it is :)

YAYareaRB
05-11-2009, 11:06 PM
I know it's personal opinion but there's gotta be better guys than Clifton Ryan, Ron Bartell, and Donnie Avery.

As For Justin Smith, he tripled as a 5 technique, NT, and Stand up DE.

holt_bruce81
05-11-2009, 11:10 PM
Ron Bartell.. over Nate Clements?

More INTs, More Passes Defensed, More Sacks, More Forced Fumbles....

XxXdragonXxX
05-11-2009, 11:12 PM
I know it's personal opinion but there's gotta be better guys than Clifton Ryan, Ron Bartell, and Donnie Avery.

As For Justin Smith, he tripled as a 5 technique, NT, and Stand up DE.

There are....

Dockett and Mebane are better than Ryan. Clements and Trufant are better than Bartell. And Housh and Breaston are better than Avery.

holt_bruce81
05-11-2009, 11:15 PM
There are....

Dockett and Mebane are better than Ryan. Clements and Trufant are better than Bartell. And Housh and Breaston are better than Avery.

Bartell is one of the best Corners in the league, he just doesn't get the recognition he deserves because he plays for the Rams.

XxXdragonXxX
05-11-2009, 11:16 PM
More INTs, More Passes Defensed, More Sacks, More Forced Fumbles....


If we're going by stats for 1 year than Josh Wilson must be better than both.

More tackles, more forced fumbles, more INTs, sacks same.

holt_bruce81
05-11-2009, 11:18 PM
If we're going by stats for 1 year than Josh Wilson must be better than both.

More tackles, more forced fumbles, more INTs, sacks same.

Not going by one season, Bartell has been a very good Corner the past 3 seasons. His breakout year was last season.

XxXdragonXxX
05-11-2009, 11:19 PM
Bartell is one of the best Corners in the league, he just doesn't get the recognition he deserves because he plays for the Rams.

Clements and Trufant are 2 of the best corners in the league also....nobody said he wasnt good, just not as good as either Clements or Trufant.

holt_bruce81
05-11-2009, 11:19 PM
Clements and Trufant are 2 of the best corners in the league also....nobody said he wasnt good, just not as good as either Clements or Trufant.

Didn't really know we all had to agree here. :)

Mr.Regular
05-12-2009, 12:40 AM
QB- Jay Cutler
RB- Adrian Peterson
WR- Calvin Johnson
WR- Greg Jennings
TE- Greg Olsen
LT- Bryant McKinnie
LG- Steve Hutchinson
C- Olin Kreutz
RG- Jason Spitz
RT- Gosder Cherilus

DE- Jared Allen
DT- Kevin Williams
DT- Pat Williams
DE- Aaron Kampman
OLB- Lance Briggs
MLB- Brian Urlacher
OLB- Chad Greenway
CB- Charles Woodson
CB- Antoine Winfield
FS- Nick Collins
SS- Kevin Payne


Seems like RT is really week....SS not the greatest either.

Gay Ork Wang
05-12-2009, 03:10 AM
QB- Jay Cutler
RB- Adrian Peterson
WR- Calvin Johnson
WR- Greg Jennings
TE- Greg Olsen
LT- Bryant McKinnie
LG- Steve Hutchinson
C- Olin Kreutz
RG- Jason Spitz
RT- Gosder Cherilus

DE- Jared Allen
DT- Kevin Williams
DT- Pat Williams
DE- Aaron Kampman
OLB- Lance Briggs
MLB- Brian Urlacher
OLB- Chad Greenway
CB- Charles Woodson
CB- Antoine Winfield
FS- Nick Collins
SS- Kevin Payne


Seems like RT is really week....SS not the greatest either.
ha nice we basically have the same team with me having another WR and a different Right Side on the OL

abaddon41_80
05-12-2009, 07:40 AM
NFC West

QB Kurt Warner(AZ)
RB Steven Jackson(STL)
FB Mike Karney(STL)
WR Larry Fitzgerald(AZ)
WR Anquan Boldin(AZ)
Slot Donnie Avery (STL)
TE John Carlson(SEA)
LT Walter Jones(SEA)
LG Mike Wahle(SEA)
C Jason Brown(STL)
RG Reggie Wells(AZ)
RT Levi Brown(AZ)

RDE Darryl Tapp (SEA)
NT Gabe Watson(AZ)
DT Clifton Ryan (STL)
LDE Chris Long(STL)
OLB Karlos Dansby(AZ)
MLB Patrick Willis(SF)
OLB Will Witherspoon(STL)
CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie(AZ)
FS O.J Atogwe(STL)
SS Adrian Wilson(AZ)
CB Ron Bartell(STL)

There is a lot wrong with this team but the funniest thing is Levi Brown being on it. I know everyone thinks of him first because he was drafted high but he is awful.

abaddon41_80
05-12-2009, 07:43 AM
Justin Smith played LE in Cincy's 4-3 before he came to SF. Dockett played 3-4 DE and 4-3 UT in his time in Arizona. So, how can you compare the two? Smith has played the 5-tech for one year, but I assume he went inside to UT when SF would switch to the 4-3 front? I'd go with Dockett over Smith, but Dockett is one of my favorite DT's in the NFL.

Either way, why not just play both Dockett and Smith and play a 1-gap DL? I think Karlos Dansby would be great knifing in with Dockett and Smith jumping gaps and disrupting plays. Plus, Patrick Willis is tha boss.

I admit that it is hard to compare them because they played in different defenses for most of their careers. But Smith was so much better than Dockett last year I don't think it is weird to put him slightly ahead of him.

Jensen
05-12-2009, 11:31 AM
There is a lot wrong with this team but the funniest thing is Levi Brown being on it. I know everyone thinks of him first because he was drafted high but he is awful.

I agree he shouldn't be on the team, but he's not awful. If he was awful he wouldn't be starting for the Cardinals. Apparently you just looked at the sacks given up by a player thread, and not paid attention to him actually playing. While he gave up a lot of sacks, his pass protection was still decent at times. He was probably the best run-blocker on the team too.

abaddon41_80
05-12-2009, 06:07 PM
I agree he shouldn't be on the team, but he's not awful. If he was awful he wouldn't be starting for the Cardinals. Apparently you just looked at the sacks given up by a player thread, and not paid attention to him actually playing. While he gave up a lot of sacks, his pass protection was still decent at times. He was probably the best run-blocker on the team too.

I don't even bother to look at stats for offensive linemen because they are almost as lol-worthy as CB stats and I don't know how many sacks Brown gave up. I have watched him and he is a bad pass blocker and not a great run blocker. He is like Kwame Harris except a little better of a pass blocker and a little worse of a run blocker.

Crazy_Chris
05-13-2009, 01:31 PM
QB- Jay Cutler
RB- Adrian Peterson
WR- Calvin Johnson
WR- Greg Jennings
TE- Greg Olsen
LT- Bryant McKinnie
LG- Steve Hutchinson
C- Olin Kreutz
RG- Jason Spitz
RT- Gosder Cherilus

DE- Jared Allen
DT- Kevin Williams
DT- Pat Williams
DE- Aaron Kampman
OLB- Lance Briggs
MLB- Brian Urlacher
OLB- Chad Greenway
CB- Charles Woodson
CB- Antoine Winfield
FS- Nick Collins
SS- Kevin Payne


Seems like RT is really week....SS not the greatest either.

For the most part I would agree with this list only thing I would change is instead of the Crappy starting RT's I would just move Orlando Pace over there.

The Legend
05-19-2009, 12:49 AM
Other than RT, you and I have the same exact offense. Interesting that you're running a 4-3 when 3/4 of the divison runs 3-4. It works though. Carr over Cribbs as a returner though? Come on...

I still believe in the 4-3

Wait for this year... Carr will do BIG things!

And lets not forget that Carr had a great year.
Cribbs vs Carr
Kick Return: 25 Average | 28 Average
Punt Return: 8 Average | 10 Average