OFFICIAL Madden '10 Discussion Thread!

[Smokey Joe]

http://www.epicbattleaxe.com/storage/eba-post-images/eba-post-images-april-2009/EBA_Madden10Cover.jpg

Post updates and random thoughts in here.

I'm gonna update this first post with videos and such tomorrow.

[Canadian_kid16]

sadly, this year's version of Madden might jsut be better than NCAA

o well, I'll be buying Madden this year, looks like its going to be sweet

[Beans]

im gonna say again that that cover is mad ****** sexy

[superman8456]

Madden is still great, no matter what people say.

[Caddy]

I'll be buying it as always.

[Cicero]

So glad they fixed the WR running out of bounds on out routes thing. It really looks like they have been putting in a lot work to make this a good one.

[BRAVEHEART]

So glad they fixed the WR running out of bounds on out routes thing. It really looks like they have been putting in a lot work to make this a good one.

Isn't that what they say every year?

[Matthew Jones]

Isn't that what they say every year?

Pretty much. I like Madden okay enough, but none of the next-gen ones have had a good franchise mode. The one on PS2/Xbox was glitchy but fun. They could have just fixed bugs in that one and been fine.

[MetSox17]

I played Madden on PS2 for 8 years, and i loved it every single year. On next-gen it just never caught my attention. I hate how different it is, and i feel it was just so much better on PS2 than on next gen.

[Smokey Joe]

One thing is for sure. If Madden 10 is anything like Madden 09, I'm not buying it. Madden 09 was one of the worst video games I've ever played, IMO.

[WMD]

Gotta agree with everyone else. I could play Madden all day on the PS2. I loved Franchise mode. I bought Madden 09 but very rarely played it. At some point, the game just became too much of a simulation for me. They also screwed with the camera angle and made it in too close.. and I didn't like the play selection screen either.

[Smokey Joe]

Oh, the play selection screen was god awful. It had way too much stuff going on and it just kinda took you out of the game. Madden 08 (and NCAA 09), while far from great, was a lot more fun because it was a lot simpler and they didn't do all that stupid fancy stuff with the selection screen, or have the field shake, do crazy camera angles, etc.

I also hated how all the players had bobble head heads.

[JFLO]

I played Madden on PS2 for 8 years, and i loved it every single year. On next-gen it just never caught my attention. I hate how different it is, and i feel it was just so much better on PS2 than on next gen.

Same here, but sadly I still buy it. It's like a black hole sucking me in...

I already paid five dollars at Gamestop to pick it up a day or two early...


Anyways, I think this game is going to be the best Next-Gen game...it only makes sense that they don't come out with a "brilliant" feature in this year's game and it being the best.

[rchrd]

I know it shows what a complete geek I am but I cant help but be excited about half sacks and assisted tackles being in. The more realistic pocket should get rid of a lot of the drop back 20 yards and bomb it deep problems as well.

[the decider13]

I stopped playing madden 09 a while ago...it just kinda sucked. But I'm pretty hyped about madden 10. Yes I said that last year. Still can't wait lol

[The Great Jonathan Vilma]

I know it shows what a complete geek I am but I cant help but be excited about half sacks and assisted tackles being in. The more realistic pocket should get rid of a lot of the drop back 20 yards and bomb it deep problems as well.

You aren't alone, as i didn't know about these, but am now excited.

09 sucked. Nuff said.

[rchrd]

You aren't alone, as i didn't know about these, but am now excited.

09 sucked. Nuff said.

If you get bored at work a lot like myself this link may be of use, if you weren't already aware of it of course...

http://insideblog.easports.com/Default.aspx?game=Madden&PageIndex=7

[Go_Eagles77]

Of course my xbox had to get the red ring of death the year madden looks like it's gonna be awesome.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Just catch me up. Why is this years version supposed to be awesome?

[The Great Jonathan Vilma]

Of course my xbox had to get the red ring of death the year madden looks like it's gonna be awesome.

from my experiences, that only takes 2 weeks - month to fix. Have things changed?

[Go_Eagles77]

from my experiences, that only takes 2 weeks - month to fix. Have things changed?
I've had it over 2 years so I don't have the warranty any more, not sure if I have any more choices.

[CC.SD]

Pretty much. I like Madden okay enough, but none of the next-gen ones have had a good franchise mode. The one on PS2/Xbox was glitchy but fun. They could have just fixed bugs in that one and been fine.

This is so disappointing to hear. I loooooooove the franchise mode from 06-08 and never bothered to pick up a next gen Madden, because my love was so pure. Was seriously considering finally picking up 10 but if Franchise can't measure up I won't bother.

[LonghornsLegend]

If you get bored at work a lot like myself this link may be of use, if you weren't already aware of it of course...

http://insideblog.easports.com/Default.aspx?game=Madden&PageIndex=7

I skimmed through this the other day, I think people are going to be excited with these new features.


I love to jam with my DB's at the line so I was excited they were revamping that, also the WR AI and DB AI so it's more realistic, it was a great explanation.


It sounds like their trying to give some time into some things that really needed fixed.

[JT Jag]

I'm waiting for them to flesh out the details. I want a full, 53 man roster with the ability to choose an active roster of 42. I want a practice squad in franchise mode. And I want...

... Long snappers. Long snappers that actually matter, and "long snapping" being a key stat that makes it impossible for any non-designated long snappers to be consistant without constantly botching the snap.

That said, I'm probably getting this one, because I skipped last years' for the first time in ages.

[AJHawk50]

I know it shows what a complete geek I am but I cant help but be excited about half sacks and assisted tackles being in. The more realistic pocket should get rid of a lot of the drop back 20 yards and bomb it deep problems as well.
I agree with that, that's exciting...I'm ready for 10!!!

[JFLO]

I agree with that, that's exciting...I'm ready for 10!!!

I play way too much Madden...I tell myself every year that I'm going to just play when I have absolutely nothing to do, but that only lasts about 5-8 hours into the new game.

[AJHawk50]

I play way too much Madden...I tell myself every year that I'm going to just play when I have absolutely nothing to do, but that only lasts about 5-8 hours into the new game.

lol, I love Madden too. It is like I am addicted. :P

[Shahin]

I played Madden on PS2 for 8 years, and i loved it every single year. On next-gen it just never caught my attention. I hate how different it is, and i feel it was just so much better on PS2 than on next gen.

that right there.

[tjsunstein]

I preferred NCAA to Madden last year and chances are I will this year too. Just a hunch.

[AJHawk50]

I hear others talking about the franchise mode being totally different, what makes it worse from a PS2 version? I ask, because I have a PS2 and I want a PS3 before Madden 10 comes out. Want to play franchise mode...

[JFLO]

lol, I love Madden too. It is like I am addicted. :P

Yea, it's embarrassing isn't it?

[Thumper]

Maybe the younger players will finally develop more than +/- 2 or 3 points overall because that is annoying how I start a young guy and they never improve... EVER.

[woodyx02]

Maybe the younger players will finally develop more than +/- 2 or 3 points overall because that is annoying how I start a young guy and they never improve... EVER.

Yes that needs to be fixed and older players need to drop. Its kinda unrealistic to have a 35 year old running backs dominating the league.

I buy both Madden and NCAA every year and my biggest pet peeve is that my college season never translates to madden. The ratings for imported rookies are random and it pisses me right off. 20 of the 1st rd pics are either QBs or RBs and it drives me crazy. That needs to be fixed. If a DT is a 99 in college why is he a 70 and a 5th round pick? Why? If I spend money on both games I feel they should reward me with a better draft process.

Also and this is nit picking but also drives me crazy. I want to be able to edit a players number or position with losing all of his personal info. I hate it when I draft a player and want to change his number and then it wipes his info clean.

One more thing, I think they should factor in 3-4 defense ratings for players positions. For example if I have Peppers and he is a 90, if he is moved to a 3-4 team as a DE his rating should go down. Or if he is moved to 3-4 olb it should change as well. Just a thought

[bhaarat316]

Yes that needs to be fixed and older players need to drop. Its kinda unrealistic to have a 35 year old running backs dominating the league.

I buy both Madden and NCAA every year and my biggest pet peeve is that my college season never translates to madden. The ratings for imported rookies are random and it pisses me right off. 20 of the 1st rd pics are either QBs or RBs and it drives me crazy. That needs to be fixed. If a DT is a 99 in college why is he a 70 and a 5th round pick? Why? If I spend money on both games I feel they should reward me with a better draft process.

Well you'll be happy to know that everyone now is an 80-70...well like the guy explained it, everyone is dropped by 10 points overall. Doesn't make much sense, but they think there can only be a hand full of guys who are 90+.

[woodyx02]

Well you'll be happy to know that everyone now is an 80-70...well like the guy explained it, everyone is dropped by 10 points overall. Doesn't make much sense, but they think there can only be a hand full of guys who are 90+.

where did you see that? So if a guy is 99 in the college game he is going to be a 89 his rookie year? Hmm if thats the case I kinda like that.

[bhaarat316]

where did you see that? So if a guy is 99 in the college game he is going to be a 89 his rookie year? Hmm if thats the case I kinda like that.

ohh no thats the vets in the game. The rookies will come in at 80s and lower...highest rookie is probably 85.

[woodyx02]

oh got it thanks

[bhaarat316]

here it is for rookies

http://insideblog.easports.com/archive/tags/Madden+Draft+Experience/default.aspx

[nfrillman]

Well you'll be happy to know that everyone now is an 80-70...well like the guy explained it, everyone is dropped by 10 points overall. Doesn't make much sense, but they think there can only be a hand full of guys who are 90+.

This is similar to what EA did for NHL 09. I think it worked pretty good. There are still star players, but a player doesn't "suck" if they are under 80 or something. I know in the past that every starting player seemed to be an 80 or higher. To me that translates as saying that every starter in the league is a good player by using the usual A-F school scale, and that just isn't realistic at all. Believe me, I've been watching the Rams and a lot of their players weren't "good" or "B" players.

[bhaarat316]

Hey guys, we thought it would be a perfect time to share something that I am personally very excited about for Madden NFL 10. We took each and every rating in the game (over 50+ player ratings) and scaled them up/down in a way that is now using much more of the scale. I like to describe it around the office like this…”We basically stretched out the ratings.” We want to use more of the numbers so we get a bigger, more noticeable affect in the game.

Let me give you guys an example….in Madden NFL 09 all of the WR’s Route Running ratings ranged from 62-99. In the current Madden NFL 10 build, WR’s now check in from 35-99. To counter this on the defensive side, all CB’s in Madden NFL 09 had a Man Coverage rating which ranged from 64-99. Now in Madden NFL 10, CB’s Man Coverage range is currently 40-99.

Every position and every rating has been re-scaled to expand the range of numbers we are dealing with. The Overall Rating for your average NFL player has dropped. Your Joe Average linebacker who was 80 OVR is now dropped down to 70. The players who were before right on the cusp of 90 in a rating category are now down around 85-88…Meaning, there are fewer superstar players out there. Before, where you could maybe get by throwing to your slot WR who had 93 SPD, with 74 ROUTES, and 77 Catching…now in Madden NFL 10, that guy is going to have like 91 SPD, 60-65 ROUTES and anywhere from 65-70 Catching. Let me tell you, these rating drops make a big difference when that slot rookie WR with 90+ speed now drops every 3rd pass or so, or just simply cannot get open.
The superstars have not been affected however, this is intentional. Peyton is still 99 OVR, Patrick Willis a 99, Larry Fitz is 99, etc. The elite players at rating categories have not been affected either (JaMarcus Russell still has a 98 Throw Power and Chris Johnson still rated 99 Speed). [Side note: One of my personal goals is to have the actual NFL players in Madden NFL 10 look like their real-life counterparts and play to their strengths and weaknesses like never before in a football video game.]

Speaking of the Speed, which is always a hot topic, we made some major changes with the infamous SPD rating as well. To give you a great example, I will again go back to WR and CB. In Madden NFL 09, the WR SPD range was 85-100…CB was 87-99.

In Madden NFL 10, WR SPD range is currently 70-100…CB is currently 75-99. So as you may or may not tell, the SPD range has been pushed down, in our opinions, to better reflect the “sim-gameplay” style that Ian and Phil have been telling you about all winter long. This SPD change has been updated for each position, so it makes a huge game play affect.

Ian and I had a game the other day where Earnest Graham broke one up the middle for a 55 yard touchdown run… and he could not be caught!…E-Grahams’ Madden NFL 10 current SPD rating….80 SPD. That should give you a good sense of what is possible with the new ratings. It’s not all about having the 90+ SPD anymore. On this particular run, Ian’s CB’s got hung up against some blockers and all I had to do was beat one safety and Graham was gone! He had Brandon Jacobs and his 85 SPD breaking some long runs as well. On the flip side of bigger/slower backs, Chris Johnson is absolutely lethal right now. You can actually get him outside with sweeps now and he is a beast to stop. But again, we are constantly tuning the gameplay, we have an entire team dedicated to that and they are some of the best people we have in the building.

So there you have it, player ratings are in for a major overhaul this year and I am really excited already with the impact they are having on the early builds of the game. And rest assured, we are well aware of the outside impacts this will have….Rookies will now come into the league based on the new ranges, NCAA Import guys are being tuned as well…Progression has been accounted for as well to better reflect breakout stars and burned-out former stars. Meaning, we want to have bigger jumps in OVR this year, both positive and negative. That’s all for now, probably gave away too much already!

Would love to hear any feedback about this big new change in the way we do player ratings. I’d be happy to answer any questions regarding the new rating ranges….please no individual ratings questions, not answering those! Stay tuned for more Madden player rating related blogs in the future!


- Donny Moore – Madden NFL 10 Designer


IMO this has been one of the most drastic changes in a long while when it comes to core gameplay. There is a lot of tuning to do (as Donny says), but holy crap does it really make fatigue, injuries, and the depth of your team really MATTER again.

As an example, if Peyton goes down and Sorgi comes in...oh boy. You better get that run game going.


also if you look at that other link you'll notice some new things like accuracy for short, long, medium, and throw on the run, and Play action. Other than that all the other things are still there.

Looks like they are trying to help the qb out.

[nfrillman]

One thing that concerns me is this.

"Every position and every rating has been re-scaled to expand the range of numbers we are dealing with. The Overall Rating for your average NFL player has dropped. Your Joe Average linebacker who was 80 OVR is now dropped down to 70. The players who were before right on the cusp of 90 in a rating category are now down around 85-88…Meaning, there are fewer superstar players out there. Before, where you could maybe get by throwing to your slot WR who had 93 SPD, with 74 ROUTES, and 77 Catching…now in Madden NFL 10, that guy is going to have like 91 SPD, 60-65 ROUTES and anywhere from 65-70 Catching. Let me tell you, these rating drops make a big difference when that slot rookie WR with 90+ speed now drops every 3rd pass or so, or just simply cannot get open.

The superstars have not been affected however, this is intentional. Peyton is still 99 OVR, Patrick Willis a 99, Larry Fitz is 99, etc. The elite players at rating categories have not been affected either (JaMarcus Russell still has a 98 Throw Power and Chris Johnson still rated 99 Speed)"


My fear is that those players will be the stars, but other players will not become stars as years progress in franchise because their ratings have been clipped.....once again leading to another EA sports game where 10 years into franchise mode the league is full of average players.

[bhaarat316]

Dropping every third pass is not a good thing, your ass is going to get benched....some things madden does are ********.

[Go_Eagles77]

Dropping every third pass is not a good thing, your ass is going to get benched....some things madden does are ********.
I was thinking the same thing. Very few players drop every third pass in the NFL, and if they do, they won't be their team's slot receiver. That's just stupid.

[Shane P. Hallam]

Dropping every third pass is not a good thing, your ass is going to get benched....some things madden does are ********.

Once again, I think it is a compensation. The game simply can't have realistic coverage and routes and what not, so the drops compensate for say a pass batted down or a pass just not in the right place.

[AJHawk50]

Top 10 ratings are out for the skill positions today in the game.

QB's:
1. 99 Peyton Manning
2. 98 Tom Brady
3. 97 Drew Brees
4. 94 Kurt Warner
5. 93 Ben Roethlisberger
6. 91 Donovan McNabb
7. 88 Philip Rivers
8. 87 Carson Palmer
9. 87 Jay Cutler
10. 87 Tony Romo

RB's:
1. 97 Adrian Peterson
2. 95 Michael Turner
3. 94 LaDanian Tomlinson
3. 94 Brian Westbrook
3. 94 DeAngelo Williams
6. 93 Clinton Portis
7. 92 Steven Jackson
8. 91 Frank Gore
9. 90 Brandon Jacobs
9. 90 Thomas Jones

You can find the rest here... http://sports.espn.go.com/videogames/news/story?id=4206931

[rchrd]

I love the deep/medium/short/PA ratings added to QB's, and more signature throwing styles. Should make that search for a QB a little more than 'ok, where that TP attribute at...'

[TimDris]

are there going to be any changes for Madden 10 on PS2? I'll be playing Madden 10 on my roommates xbox360, but at home i use the PS2, and I want to decide if its worth buying.

[the decider13]

madden gameplay footage
http://www.pastapadre.com/8700/first-madden-10-gameplay-footage#more-8700

[JFLO]

madden gameplay footage
http://www.pastapadre.com/8700/first-madden-10-gameplay-footage#more-8700

Not impressed...

You can tell the game has slowed down though.

[the decider13]

I really like the slowed down pace...I always felt like I didn't have much control before.

[The Great Jonathan Vilma]

I agree, I like the slowed down pace, as it was unrealistically fast before. So long as the speed difference between the players is all 'equal' then the slower pace won't make a difference.

[LonghornsLegend]

I was thinking the same thing. Very few players drop every third pass in the NFL, and if they do, they won't be their team's slot receiver. That's just stupid.

Their not going to drop a wide open pass, I think you guys are reading too much into it, their basically saying you can't just get a fast slot WR and throw to him all game and he'll end up with 12 catches, that's more unrealistic then anything.


If they keep drills you can make some players superstars, but I'd much rather keep it how they said with very few superstars versus too many, this:

NCAA Import guys are being tuned as well…Progression has been accounted for as well to better reflect breakout stars and burned-out former stars. Meaning, we want to have bigger jumps in OVR this year, both positive and negative.


Nothing was more annoying then doing a draft class and Taylor Mays is a 96 as he's drafted, Myron Rolle becomes a 95 FS in two years, all the great players in college come in like instant studs and they got better much faster...From what that quote says you will still be able to make other players super stars and old super stars fall off, that's how it should be, and rookies coming in much lower is a great idea.


Madden still has some things to work out, but I think people are always going to be unhappy with stuff, the changes sound like their going to make it more realistic so that's all I'm looking for.


It's still a video game, and it's got to appeal to a large audience, there are lots of kids who buy this, or people who don't watch football as much as we do, so it's still got to have some sort of arcade style feel to it.

[djp]

So there's going to be Online Franchises with Madden with fully live drafts, and you can do it from your web browser if you very well choose.

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/19820/Madden-NFL-10-Online-Franchise-Revealed/

http://media.teamxbox.com/games/ss/2223/1243904551.jpg

http://media.teamxbox.com/games/ss/2223/1243904550.jpg

[The Great Jonathan Vilma]

Online leagues are going to be amazing, can't wait.

I don't expect this to be possible, but can you ahve 2 people controlling 1 team? Being able to play together in a season would be pretty sweet. I'm happy with just the online though, but incase any of u see htis as available.

Also, is the limit for online teamplay 2 people on a team? I'm hoping it is at least 3, but even 2 is a solid start and will be great.

[the decider13]

Hoping to get in a good online franchise...although I don't think enough people will be on the PS3 from here. Maybe I should just stop being lazy and wire my xbox room for the internet haha

Online franchise will not be fun with random people joining. On here, it would be amazing.

[M.O.T.H.]

They should be careful with that regression. Beefed up progression...great news, it should finally be performance based. Big time regression...um no. I've seen a bunch of games try to this. MVP baseball even had a problem here. They better get it right or you could see some major regression in players despite them putting up great numbers. I can see it now...Kurt Warner puts up 4,200 yards and 35 Tds...only to have his rating drop 5+ points. Worse yet is when something like this happens to a young player after a good year. Nothing makes me madder then when, your progession/regression doesnt correctly reflect how your player played. So lame. Could end up being mighty glitchy...and EA sure as hell has a history of really bad glitches.

I still cant believe they released NCAA 2009 despite the fact that if you edit your roster, your game will freeze unless you download the update. Which wasnt even ready by the time the game came out. So, no Live or PSN means you're out of luck. Terrible.

Also, last year's Madden progession was messed up as well until a later update had to be applied. These things are inexcuseable...but given that it's a monopoly pretty much, they're not losing gamers, regardless of their shotty products.

[Menardo75]

Online Franchise mode will be a ton of fun on here I hope we can get one going. I really want them to have an online dynasty for the college basketball game.

[nfrillman]

They should be careful with that regression. Beefed up progression...great news, it should finally be performance based. Big time regression...um no. I've seen a bunch of games try to this. MVP baseball even had a problem here. They better get it right or you could see some major regression in players despite them putting up great numbers. I can see it now...Kurt Warner puts up 4,200 yards and 35 Tds...only to have his rating drop 5+ points. Worse yet is when something like this happens to a young player after a good year. Nothing makes me madder then when, your progession/regression doesnt correctly reflect how your player played. So lame. Could end up being mighty glitchy...and EA sure as hell has a history of really bad glitches.

I still cant believe they released NCAA 2009 despite the fact that if you edit your roster, your game will freeze unless you download the update. Which wasnt even ready by the time the game came out. So, no Live or PSN means you're out of luck. Terrible.

Also, last year's Madden progession was messed up as well until a later update had to be applied. These things are inexcuseable...but given that it's a monopoly pretty much, they're not losing gamers, regardless of their shotty products.

I think I know what you are talking about with MVP Baseball. A friend and I created ourselves as prospects on there and always started out in the big leagues. After several seasons of putting up amazing numbers our rookie year and then dropping in ratings we were getting mighty ticked. Then it dawned on me what was happening. EA had programmed the game to recreate the usual sophomore slump that happens in baseball. After moving on through our "down" year our ratings continued to rise quickly.

[Shane P. Hallam]

It'd be sick for us to do a 32 team online franchise, maybe even with a fantasy draft :)

[The Great Jonathan Vilma]

I would join on here, but i get the feeling we would have some people i certainly wouldn't be able to touch....which would take away some fun. However, i would be interested. I have 2 friends (Redskins & TB) who would love to join as well if possible.

[The Great Jonathan Vilma]

It'd be sick for us to do a 32 team online franchise, maybe even with a fantasy draft :)

I'm pure Jets or bust. I don't want any players from any of those 31 other crappy teams out there.....

[JETS5128]

I would definitely enjoy beating up on all you guys in an online Franchise :)

[CC.SD]

Hoping to get in a good online franchise...although I don't think enough people will be on the PS3 from here. Maybe I should just stop being lazy and wire my xbox room for the internet haha

Online franchise will not be fun with random people joining. On here, it would be amazing.

xbox...room? Does this imply a PS3 room? Wii room? (I have one of those, but I don't play video games there.) I demand to know the layout of your living space.

[rchrd]

xbox...room? Does this imply a PS3 room? Wii room? (I have one of those, but I don't play video games there.) I demand to know the layout of your living space.

I concur, my xbox corner is feeling very jealous...

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5494/dsc00380x.th.jpg (http://img198.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00380x.jpg)

[Shane P. Hallam]

Not saying we'd do this, but it would be truly awesome to get a fan from all 32 teams on NFLDC who has XBL, pick their favorite team, and duke it out.

[JETS5128]

Not saying we'd do this, but it would be truly awesome to get a fan from all 32 teams on NFLDC who has XBL, pick their favorite team, and duke it out.

That would be sick

[Canadian_kid16]

I'd be down for a 32 team franchise

[CC.SD]

It shall be done.

[The Great Jonathan Vilma]

That would be sick

Depending on what teams are left, i would consider letting you have the Jets, although it really wouldn't be the same. Straight up, i couldn't be another AFC team though.

[JETS5128]

Depending on what teams are left, i would consider letting you have the Jets, although it really wouldn't be the same. Straight up, i couldn't be another AFC team though.

I couldn't make a decision on a team until i actually got the game and was able to try teams out. Last year i sucked dick with the Jets, this year I'm thinking it might be a bit different though. I tend to favor pass heavy teams but i also love good D so i guess I'll just wait and see

[the decider13]

xbox...room? Does this imply a PS3 room? Wii room? (I have one of those, but I don't play video games there.) I demand to know the layout of your living space.

Does sound a little weird doesn't it...PS3 and the Xbox are in the other room. Modem is very far away...would need like a billion foot ether net cable or wireless. Just don't feel like dropping the money on wireless.

Probably will end up doing it for madden though...not enough PS3 users to make a decent franchise.

[M.O.T.H.]

LL and I would fight over Dallas. I'm sure someone else would to.

[niel89]

When I heard of the online franchises I instantly thought of a large NFLDC/SWDC league duking it out

[The Great Jonathan Vilma]

I couldn't make a decision on a team until i actually got the game and was able to try teams out. Last year i sucked dick with the Jets, this year I'm thinking it might be a bit different though. I tend to favor pass heavy teams but i also love good D so i guess I'll just wait and see

I take my previous offer back. If you are unsure of using the Jets due to playing poorly as them, i will happily take them, for good or bad, and enjoy every second of it. If need be, we can do a coin flip, and i'll flip the coin....


But seriously, we can discuss all these details closer to gametime.

[JT Jag]

Dibs on the Jaguars for the 32-team franchise.

[bantx]

Id be down with the chargers!!

[Menardo75]

Niners are mine if we do this.

[Canadian_kid16]

Dibs Bucs if this goes down

[Shane P. Hallam]

Lol, no one gets dibs on anything. But, once I investigate the circumstances, we'll see what happens.

It also may be fun to do a full on 32 team draft. God knows how we love drafts.

[the decider13]

Lol, no one gets dibs on anything. But, once I investigate the circumstances, we'll see what happens.

It also may be fun to do a full on 32 team draft. God knows how we love drafts.

Judging that I am the only active Broncos poster...I have no problem calling dibs on them haha

A 32 team fantasy draft would be cool though. Especially since you can do it on the computer.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

I'm down for the 32 team dynasty.

[Shane P. Hallam]

Judging that I am the only active Broncos poster...I have no problem calling dibs on them haha

A 32 team fantasy draft would be cool though. Especially since you can do it on the computer.

I know, I am a bit torn on which to do. I'd gladly take a crappy team if we did reg. teams and try to fill in the blanks with multi-fans who want a team.

[B-Dawk]

would definitely get in on an online franchise

[JETS5128]

Lol, no one gets dibs on anything. But, once I investigate the circumstances, we'll see what happens.

It also may be fun to do a full on 32 team draft. God knows how we love drafts.

That would be beyond epic

[rockio42]

I'm ok at Madden and I have a feeling there are a couple people are here that would just tear others apart but at least the draft would be really fun...

[The Great Jonathan Vilma]

I'm ok at Madden and I have a feeling there are a couple people are here that would just tear others apart but at least the draft would be really fun...

I couldn't agree more. I would not be one of those people....

[PACKmanN]

Lol, no one gets dibs on anything. But, once I investigate the circumstances, we'll see what happens.

It also may be fun to do a full on 32 team draft. God knows how we love drafts.
I guess who ever picks the Lions has to draft a WR. lol ;)

I'm actually thinking of selling my ps3 and getting a 360.

[the_legend_killer]

Yeah, I'd be interested in an online franchise. Very much so. I'd prefer Minnesota, but if someone's already called dibs I could be another team.

[CC.SD]

A fantasy draft with 32 teams would be epic, and solve all the "It's my team" problems. I'd be down eitehr way.

[Smokey Joe]

http://e3.gamespot.com/video/6211657/

Looks much improved, but I'm not sure if it'll be good.

[AJHawk50]

I am excited for this game, and as for the 32 man league...I'd like to play, going to be buying a PS3 this month! :D

I'd like Green Bay Packers No. 1 choice but Kansas City Chiefs No. 2.

[djp]

I am excited for this game, and as for the 32 man league...I'd like to play, going to be buying a PS3 this month! :D

I'd like Green Bay Packers No. 1 choice but Kansas City Chiefs No. 2.

Except nobody here has a PS3 :[

[Addict]

One thing is for sure. If Madden 10 is anything like Madden 09, I'm not buying it. Madden 09 was one of the worst video games I've ever played, IMO.

Yeah I feel the same way, 09 was rediculous control-wise... playing defense was nigh impossible since the OL seemed inpenetrable at times and don't even get me started on passing because the CPU cornerbacks were just insane.

[AJHawk50]

Except nobody here has a PS3 :[
That seriously sucks. lol

[Gay Ork Wang]

i dont quite understand. why implement a online franchise when the gameplay still sucks

[AJHawk50]

i dont quite understand. why implement a online franchise when the gameplay still sucks
I think gameplay will be much better from last year, at least thats what I am hoping for.

I like all the new visuals that are being put in, coming out of the tunnel and fans BBQ'ing, that kind of thing...even the rain on the camera lense.

[Gay Ork Wang]

I think gameplay will be much better from last year, at least thats what I am hoping for.

I like all the new visuals that are being put in, coming out of the tunnel and fans BBQ'ing, that kind of thing...even the rain on the camera lense.
yea but how about improving the AI first :/ i mean CBs arent really covering that realistic. im not sure about the OLine blocking but it always sucked ass, as well as punt coverage

[AJHawk50]

yea but how about improving the AI first :/ i mean CBs is just really not really realistic.
I would totally agree with you, but when you have only one choice for an NFL game...you take what you can get I guess. Fortunately, I do see improvements on the game vs. other years.

And on a side note, does anyone else have PS3 and plan on buying Madden 10?

[Smokey Joe]

How about some good announcers? Even if this game turns out to be really good, it's gonna be tough to play if I have to listen to freaking Cris Colinsworth. ****, I'm gonna have to listen to ******* Colinsworth for Sunday Night Football as well.

This blows.

[LonghornsLegend]

LL and I would fight over Dallas. I'm sure someone else would to.

I'm more of a free lance guy on Madden, plus I don't like playing with 3-4 teams, Minnesota and Tennessee would probably be off top some teams I'd like to play with, Minnesota mostly, I'm gonna be a monster with them this year.


Or I'll be a one man team around Chris Johnson and Fat Boy and make it work lol.


A huge fantasy draft would be sick though, really sick.

[trkaline]

Yeah I love playing ppl with the Titans. I've had games where all I did was run but not many, because that is cheap...I suck with any team without a decent rb.

[AJHawk50]

I am pretty positive that some team and more player ratings will be released tomorrow.

[LonghornsLegend]

I am pretty positive that some team and more player ratings will be released tomorrow.

I thought all the player ratings were released already? I've seen most of them.

[holt_bruce81]

Not sure how to ask this question, but will they make the Cornerbacks more realistic? I mean if a corner was fast, he could shutdown anyone.

Tye Hill is garbage in real life, in madden he's a great shutdown corner. Same with Fabian Washington.

[Shane P. Hallam]

Not sure how to ask this question, but will they make the Cornerbacks more realistic? I mean if a corner was fast, he could shutdown anyone.

Tye Hill is garbage in real life, in madden he's a great shutdown corner. Same with Fabian Washington.

I would guess that CPU controlled guys will play off of WRs more if they are crappy, etc.

[The Great Jonathan Vilma]

How about some good announcers? Even if this game turns out to be really good, it's gonna be tough to play if I have to listen to freaking Cris Colinsworth. ****, I'm gonna have to listen to ******* Colinsworth for Sunday Night Football as well.

Just throw on some music, or turn them off. That is usually what i do. I like hearing the natural sounds of football though and music can take away from that. Regardless though, after a period of time the commentary will be repetative regardless.


I thought all the player ratings were released already? I've seen most of them.

Can you post a link with these ratings? I'd like to see them.

[Menardo75]

I think a fantasy draft would be stupid. Where are the player ratings at?

[AJHawk50]

Rookie ratings have been out, and the top 10 of many positions have been released but that is all. Here is the team ratings.

ALL TEAM RATINGS:
New England Patriots 93
Pittsburgh Steelers 92
New York Giants 89
Philadelphia Eagles 88
San Diego Chargers 88
Tennessee Titans 87
Indianapolis Colts 87
Arizona Cardinals 86
Dallas Cowboys 85
Carolina Panthers 83
Baltimore Ravens 82
Atlanta Falcons 81
Minnesota Vikings 80
Washington Redskins 79
Chicago Bears 79
Buffalo Bills 78
New York Jets 78
Green Bay Packers 78
Seattle Seahawks 77
Miami Dolphins 77
Houston Texans 75
New Orleans Saints 74
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 74
San Francisco 49ers 73
Jacksonville Jaguars 71
Oakland Raiders 71
Denver Broncos 70
Kansas City Chiefs 69
Cleveland Browns 68
Cincinnati Bengals 67
St. Louis Rams 66
Detroit Lions 65

[AJHawk50]

I don't have the full list of ratings but if someone is wondering about some players, type them out and I'll see if I can get them until they are online.

[jballa838]

Seattle is the 2nd best team in the NFC West ratings wise. Not bad.

[Go_Eagles77]

When are all the player ratings gonna be out? I'm just really bored right now and want something to do lol.

[AJHawk50]

When are all the player ratings gonna be out? I'm just really bored right now and want something to do lol.
Well the information is all out now, but what players are you wanting to know ratings for? There isn't a webpage that I have found that lists them all out as of yet.

[the decider13]

woah madden is ********... 5 points seperating an 8-8 team and the worst team in NFL history. Interesting.

[AJHawk50]

http://maddennfl.easports.com/cover.action

On EA Sports site they have the Bears ratings up now if you want to download, I guess they will go team by team. So there is all the Bears for any Bears fans.

[LonghornsLegend]

Rookie ratings have been out, and the top 10 of many positions have been released but that is all. Here is the team ratings.


Yea that's what I was thinking, they released the full top to bottom rankings for all the rookies, and the top 10 I thought all the players had been released so far.

[CC.SD]

woah madden is ********... 5 points seperating an 8-8 team and the worst team in NFL history. Interesting.

YOU
http://www.xcomment.com/g3/img/Calvin_Johnson_transfermodi122908093321.gif

...should now repent.

[The Great Jonathan Vilma]

woah madden is ********... 5 points seperating an 8-8 team and the worst team in NFL history. Interesting.

Well, technically the teams that will be represented won't be those exact teams that put up those records, as roster adjustments will have taken place.

IE. You won't have Cutler.....but at least you will have a new coach!!

[AJHawk50]

I've got all of the Green Bay Packers ratings now too.

[AJHawk50]

GREEN BAY PACKERS OFFENSE:

QB's (overall rating):
1. Aaron Rodgers: 86
2. Matt Flynn: 54
3. Brian Brohm: 50

RB's:
1. Ryan Grant: 85
2. Korey Hall: 72
3. Brandon Jackson: 70
4. Quinn Johnson: 67
5. DeShawn Wynn: 61

WR's/TE's:
1. Greg Jennings: 90
2. Donald Driver: 85
3. Donald Lee: 77
4. James Jones: 71
5. Jermichael Finley: 70
6. Jordy Nelson: 69
7. Ruvell Martin: 66

[Go_Eagles77]

Where are you getting that info?

Edit: Never mind, it's the same website you just posted with the bears ratings.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

woah madden is ********... 5 points seperating an 8-8 team and the worst team in NFL history. Interesting.

It's not based on last year's team, but based on the teams going into this season. I see Denver finishing last in the division based on the loss of Cutler and them converting to the 3-4 with an already terrible defense. Detroit on the other hand can only go up.

[AJHawk50]

Where are you getting that info?

Edit: Never mind, it's the same website you just posted with the bears ratings.
Yes, and also as the teams are published out...for easier use, you can go here for the same information.

http://espn.go.com/videogames/features/madden/madden10?teamId=20

Also, tomorrow the Detroit Lions will be released I suspect.

[AJHawk50]

When are all the player ratings gonna be out? I'm just really bored right now and want something to do lol.
Since I see your an Eagles fan, I think the Eagles roster comes out June 29. By the way, as a Mizzou fan...I hope Maclin does great for you guys. :D

[DeepThreat]

Does anyone else think it's BS that CMIII is almost as good as A.J. Hawk?

[Go_Eagles77]

Since I see your an Eagles fan, I think the Eagles roster comes out June 29. By the way, as a Mizzou fan...I hope Maclin does great for you guys. :D
Okay thanks. And obviously I hope Maclin does great too. lol

[The Great Jonathan Vilma]

Does anyone else think it's BS that CMIII is almost as good as A.J. Hawk?

So you are saying Matthews should be lower? Hawk shouldn't be higher....

Fact is, everyone is looking strictly at overalls, when the most imporant thing to look at is the actual ratings that go into making that overall. Mathis (Indy DE) may have a nice overall, but my guess is that his ratings will be strictly related to pass-rushing and speed, and not strength and run stopping attributes. Looking strictly at overall can be misleading, as many players have certain strengths. True, overall takes all the related attributes into account when making that rating, but being weaker in pass rush moves or something would make his rating lower, where Matthews would be moved up.....

[GB12]

I really don't get this new rating system.

Ryan Grant was an 85 last year, he stays an 85. Brandon Jackson was an 80 last year, he drops 10 points.

Jason Spitz is 11 points higher than Daryn Colledge and 5th round pick Jamon Meredith is only 1 point lower than Colledge.

Tramon Williams is 17 points lower than Al Harris when he was arguably better last year.

Once again it looks like they've got the early round rookies far too high

Just doesn't add up. I'm not liking the way this looks. It probably won't be any better than the old rating system and might be a lot worse.

[M.O.T.H.]

I just like how they're making guys actually bad now. A lot more 50's and 60's. haha. In 09 you could find guys just shy of 80 overall in the later rounds...hopefully they fixed that as well.

[619]

A lot of the rankings are based on reputation, as is the case with Al Harris.

[AJHawk50]

I too did think that Clay Matthews one under A.J. Hawk was a little close having never seen Matthews yet. I do like the lower ratings though, like I've seen on some websites...if Rodgers goes down and Flynn comes in you are going to know that he is gone; you just won't go out and throw 4 TD's 300 yards every week with whoever is in at QB or whatever position.

[AJHawk50]

And the Lions ratings are out today, Vikings tomorrow.

http://espn.go.com/videogames/features/madden/madden10?teamId=19

[bantx]

When we do that online franchise thing and people want to use the same team, we could have a playoff between the players to see who gets the teams they want.

[Shane P. Hallam]

When we do that online franchise thing and people want to use the same team, we could have a playoff between the players to see who gets the teams they want.

That would take too long, screw that.

[LonghornsLegend]

Once again it looks like they've got the early round rookies far too high


How do you figure? I think there were only a few 80's with the 1st rounders, and mostly alot of 76's and 77's, how is that far too high?

[bhaarat316]

At least they don't have the Stafford as the best overall.

[Shane P. Hallam]

At least they don't have the Stafford as the best overall.

He should be a 95 overall.

[DeepThreat]

I think the rookie ratings are ridiculous. Aaron Curry's 7 overall better than A.J. Hawk. Hawk isn't a star, but he's a solid player. To have Curry already better than him is a joke.

[GB12]

How do you figure? I think there were only a few 80's with the 1st rounders, and mostly alot of 76's and 77's, how is that far too high?
Because they changed the whole rating system this year. In the old system they wouldn't be so bad, but with how they made it this year 77 is a rating solid starters are getting. In this version guys who used to be high 80s to low 90s are now getting high 70s.


Also just looked at the Lions. Ernie Simms an 88? That's ******* ridiculous. He shouldn't even be close to an 88 in the old ratings.

[HawkeyeFan]

I thought of a cool feature.

Why not, during every game update. They have commentary updated too? Add new commentary as they go, so we can have more to listen too.

[Malaka]

Sage Rosenfels toughness should be higher I mean did they not see the Rosencopter? You take a hit like that and get back up your a champ...

[The Great Jonathan Vilma]

Because they changed the whole rating system this year. In the old system they wouldn't be so bad, but with how they made it this year 77 is a rating solid starters are getting. In this version guys who used to be high 80s to low 90s are now getting high 70s.


Also just looked at the Lions. Ernie Simms an 88? That's ******* ridiculous. He shouldn't even be close to an 88 in the old ratings.

Sims has speed, acceleration, solid tackling, solid hitting power, respectable coverage, etc. etc. He is lacking awareness, probably rush moves, and block shed, which will bring him down. Looking at the ratings they gave him, i don't see a huge issue (his catching is low too). Again, i state that the overall is a combination of the other attributes that a player has. I see no issue with him being an 88, so long as his strengths (speed, pursuit, tackling) are accurate, and his weaknesses are just that. We do not see all the ratings here, but the ones i do see don't pose a huge issue to me. His awareness is terrible. I would only say that his strength is obviously too high, should be a 75 or so.

[Geo]

http://sports.espn.go.com/videogames/news/story?id=4249603

Revealing interview on online franchise, give it a read.

(Apologies if this had already been posted.)

[nrk]

I thought of a cool feature.

Why not, during every game update. They have commentary updated too? Add new commentary as they go, so we can have more to listen too.

Because that'll take more hd space, more money, and a lot more time.

[AJHawk50]

I noticed on the Minnesota Vikings roster, they only have 2 official HB's. In the old Madden you had to have at least 3...

[GB12]

Sims has speed, acceleration, solid tackling, solid hitting power, respectable coverage, etc. etc. He is lacking awareness, probably rush moves, and block shed, which will bring him down. Looking at the ratings they gave him, i don't see a huge issue (his catching is low too). Again, i state that the overall is a combination of the other attributes that a player has. I see no issue with him being an 88, so long as his strengths (speed, pursuit, tackling) are accurate, and his weaknesses are just that. We do not see all the ratings here, but the ones i do see don't pose a huge issue to me. His awareness is terrible. I would only say that his strength is obviously too high, should be a 75 or so.
Your theory here is nice, but the purpose of the overall is to rank the player on how good they are. Yeah, it's a combination of the other attributes that player has, but that combination should reflect an accurate overall rating. Ernie Sims should be no where close to an 88, no matter what the individual ratings are. If that is the case, as it is, well then they messed up.

[AJHawk50]

I can see that both ways. I don't think Ernie Sims is an 88 either vs. A.J. Hawk who is a 78. I don't think there is a 10 point difference between those two for example. At the same time, all you can do is go category by category and set the stat how they actually are/play as...and once you have done that, you should have your final overall rating. So I can see it either way.

[The Great Jonathan Vilma]

Your theory here is nice, but the purpose of the overall is to rank the player on how good they are. Yeah, it's a combination of the other attributes that player has, but that combination should reflect an accurate overall rating. Ernie Sims should be no where close to an 88, no matter what the individual ratings are. If that is the case, as it is, well then they messed up.

I see what you are saying, but he doesn't play in the game '88 overall', he plays in the game based on the individual attributes. If you want to use Overall as a guide, that is fine, but it would be tough to find a formula that best determines the overall. OLB will have 3-4 and 4-3 LBs, and i doubt they are going to have a different overall for both. 2 totally different positions that would focus on two totally different streams for determining overall. Personally, i wouldn't be to worried about the 'overall' as it doesn't have any pure relevance to the gameplay. Truth be told, i agree, his overall is way to high, i'd say an 81 (and as such, his strength rating is way to high relative to others, which contributes to his overly high overall). Maybe someone at EA has a crush on him, or wanted to give 1 good player on the Lions defense, who knows.

[scottyboy]

woah madden is ********... 5 points seperating an 8-8 team and the worst team in NFL history. Interesting.

Kyle Orton may be your starting QB. That says a lot. When you trade away your starting QB, you're not gonna finish with the rating of an 8-8 team.

[GB12]

I see what you are saying, but he doesn't play in the game '88 overall', he plays in the game based on the individual attributes. If you want to use Overall as a guide, that is fine, but it would be tough to find a formula that best determines the overall. OLB will have 3-4 and 4-3 LBs, and i doubt they are going to have a different overall for both. 2 totally different positions that would focus on two totally different streams for determining overall. Personally, i wouldn't be to worried about the 'overall' as it doesn't have any pure relevance to the gameplay. Truth be told, i agree, his overall is way to high, i'd say an 81 (and as such, his strength rating is way to high relative to others, which contributes to his overly high overall). Maybe someone at EA has a crush on him, or wanted to give 1 good player on the Lions defense, who knows.
Oh, but he does. Had he gotten a proper rating of around 76 he would be so much worse than an 88. He's going to be one of the better LBs in the game, which is very far from the truth.

[The Great Jonathan Vilma]

Oh, but he does. Had he gotten a proper rating of around 76 he would be so much worse than an 88. He's going to be one of the better LBs in the game, which is very far from the truth.

I agree to an extent. However, we haven't played the game, and he has the awareness of a backup/rookie player, which could influence his play. I would say he hasn't played to the level expected, i would also say that his surrounding talent has influenced the amount of an impact he could have on such a terrible defense.....and who is to say that defense won't be terrible in the game, and you can easily avoid him by doing real play calling?

[GB12]

I agree to an extent. However, we haven't played the game, and he has the awareness of a backup/rookie player, which could influence his play. I would say he hasn't played to the level expected, i would also say that his surrounding talent has influenced the amount of an impact he could have on such a terrible defense.....and who is to say that defense won't be terrible in the game, and you can easily avoid him by doing real play calling?
The problem with Ernie Sims is that for some reason everyone that's not an NFC North fan has it in their head that he's good. He played alright as a rookie, but has been pretty awful since. And just because the rest of the defense will be terrible and you can avoid him doesn't make it ok for him to be an 88.

Also low awareness means that he'll be able to progress easily. After two years in franchise he'll probably be a 93.

[The Great Jonathan Vilma]

I'm not saying he isn't as good as his rating is indicating, but you would be a lot better off if you focused on addressing attributes that you feel should be lower, rather than looking at the overall and just saying it should be lower. Lowering the particular attributes will lower the overall. Besides the strength, what do you feel should be lowered?

[LonghornsLegend]

Because they changed the whole rating system this year. In the old system they wouldn't be so bad, but with how they made it this year 77 is a rating solid starters are getting. In this version guys who used to be high 80s to low 90s are now getting high 70s.


Also just looked at the Lions. Ernie Simms an 88? That's ******* ridiculous. He shouldn't even be close to an 88 in the old ratings.

But you said "they have got the early round rookies way too high again", if you get a top 15 pick your rookie should be about a 77, there is nothing wrong with that...Looking at progression it'll be either hard, or take a long time to get that rookie as good as a superstar in the game.



Every year people get way too out of control over a few ratings, it's still a video game, not real life...I'm more excited about the fact that a 1st round rookie is rarely an 80 or an above except for maybe two out of the class as low 80's, and there are only a select few elite players in the game which is the way it should be.

[AJHawk50]

Some new footage out of gameplay from EA...Titans vs. Ravens.

http://insideblog.easports.com/archive/2009/06/12/titans-avenge-2008-playoff-loss-to-ravens-in-35-21-victory.aspx

[The Great Jonathan Vilma]

Some new footage out of gameplay from EA...Titans vs. Ravens.

http://insideblog.easports.com/archive/2009/06/12/titans-avenge-2008-playoff-loss-to-ravens-in-35-21-victory.aspx

That is a lot of gameplay. I'm going to watch it today (at least some of it) to see how noticable the gameplay changes are.

[M.O.T.H.]

It sill looks the same. With a new target thing when passing.

I dont even like the current feel of madden, I wish they would do a complete ovehaul but, that wont happen.

[Cicero]

I got this off of another forum for what it's worth.

Ravens

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
QB J. Flacco 81
QB T. Smith 59 82 86
QB J. Beck 48

RB W. McGahee 83 82 86
RB R. Rice 78 85 90
RB C. Peerman 68 93 86

FB L. McClain 92 81 84

WR D. Mason 88 85 90
WR M. Clayton 77 86 92
WR D. Williams 66 82 85
WR M. Smith 49 82 84
WR Y. Figurs 39 95 97

TE T. Heap 84 82 84
TE L.J. Smith 77 72 77
TE Q. Sypniewski 65 70 80

OL M. Birk 88
OL B. Grubbs 84
OL W. Anderson 82
OL Jared Gaither 79
OL C. Chester 78
OL M. Oher 77
OL M. Yanda 77
OL A. Terry 72
OL D. Hale 69
OL O. Cousins 68
OL T. Stallings 62

DL H. Ngata 90
DL T. Pryce 83
DL K. Gregg 77
DL J. Bannan 74
DL D. Edwards 71
DL B. McKinney 65
DL L. Divens 64

LB R. Lewis 97 83 86
LB T. Suggs 90 83 95
LB J. Johnson 79 69 82
LB P. Kruger 71 73 77
LB A. Barnes 70 86 92
LB T. Gooden 65 82 90
LB J. McClain 63 80 82
LB B. Ayanbadejo 63 71 77
LB P. Burgess 50 72 79

CB D. Foxworth 82 93 95
CB F. Washington 77 98 97
CB S. Rolle 75 85 87
CB L. Webb 71 93 94
CB C. Carr 65 91 94
CB F. Walker 49 80 86

S E. Reed 99 93 94
S D. Landry 71 78 81
S T. Zbikowski 63 85 87
S H. Nakamura 62 84 87

K S. Hauschka 59

P S. Koch 86

Steelers

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
QB B. Roethlisberger 93 70 70
QB C. Batch 67
QB D. Dixon 42

RB W. Parker 86 95 95
RB M. Moore 73 84 88
RB R. Mendenhall 72 83 91
RB F. Summers 54

FB C. Davis 77

TE H. Miller 88 70 76
TE S. McHugh 68 62 65
TE M. Spaeth 66 63 72

WR H. Ward 90 82 86
WR S. Holmes 86 93 96
WR S. McDonald 68 92 90
WR L. Sweed 64 81 85
WR M. Wallace 57 94 95

OL J. Hartwig 86
OL M. Starks 83
OL W. Colon 78
OL C. Kemoeatu 76
OL J. Parquet 72
OL K. Urbik 71
OL T. Essex 71
OL D. Stapleton 70
OL T. Hills 70
OL A. Shipley 66

DL A. Smith 91
DL C. Hampton 91
DL B. Keisel 76
DL E. Hood 75
DL C. Hoke 74
DL T. Kirschke 65
DL R. Harris 50
DL S. Paxson 55
DL N. Eason 55
DL R. Harris 50

LB J. Harrison 97 85 87
LB J. Farrior 95 75 80
LB L. Woodley 88 82 88
LB L. Timmons 74 78 92
LB A. Harrison 62 68 79
LB B. Davis 62 74 92
LB A. Frazier 59 72 78
LB K. Fox 59 74 85

CB I. Taylor 86 87 94
CB D. Townsend 82 79 84
CB J. Burnett 64 83 86
CB W. *** 63 85 88
CB K. Lewis 61 84 87
CB A. Madison 51 81 85

S T. Polamalu 99 93 95
S R. Clark 83 81 85
S T. Carter 67 80 80

K J. Reed 76

P D. Sepulveda 72

49ers

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
QB S. Hill 69 69 60
QB A. Smith 67 70 74
QB N. Davis 64
QB D. Huard 58

RB F. Gore 91 92 93
RB G. Coffee 69 87 92
RB M. Robinson 65 76 84

FB M. Norris 77
FB Z. Keasey 62

WR M. Crabtree 84 88 90
WR I. Bruce 79 85 89
WR J. Morgan 74 88 92
WR A. Battle 72 80 84
WR B. Jones 70 87 90
WR J. Hill 66 87 88
WR D. Zeigler 62 86 87

TE V. Davis 78 88 91
TE D. Walker 66 83 86
TE B. Pascoe 63 63 69

OL J. Staley 85
OL M. Smith 82
OL C. Rachal 80
OL D. Baas 77
OL E. Heitmann 77
OL B. Sims 76
OL A. Snyder 74
OL T. Wragge 71
OL C. Wallace 70
OL J. Bender 66
OL R. Jean-Francois 62

DL J. Smith 83
DL I. Sopoaga 80
DL K. Balmer 68
DL R. McDonald 67
DL A. Franklin 67
DL D. Evans 61

LB P. Willis 98 90 96
LB T. Spikes 78 74 77
LB P. Haralson 76 77 88
LB M. Lawson 72 89 95
LB J. Ulbrich 70 63 76
LB S. McKillop 67 71 74
LB J. Moore 61 67 80

CB N. Clements 84 86 91
CB W. Harris 76 76 84
CB S. Spencer 67 85 92
CB T. Brown 59 85 93
CB M. Hudson 48 80 85

S M. Lewis 80 75 82
S R. Smith 64 85 90
S D. Goldson 62 78 86
S M. Roman 55 78 80

K J. Nedney 83

P A. Lee 92

Redskins

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
QB J. Campbell 77 70 69
QB T. Collins 64
QB C. Brennan 49

HB C. Portis 93 91 95
HB L. Betts 72 79 83
HB R. Cartwright 68 82 88

FB M. Sellers 89
FB E. Williams 52

WR S. Moss 86 96 98
WR A. Randle-El 75 90 93
WR D. Thomas 66 88 89
WR M. Hagans 65 85 89
WR M. Kelly 63 83 84
WR J. Thrash 63 83 84

TE C. Cooley 91 79 84
TE T. Yoder 66 60 66
TE F. Davis 63 76 75

OL C. Samuels 93
OL R. Thomas 89
OL J. Jansen 83
OL C. Rabach 77
OL D. Dockery 78
OL W. Montgomery 68
OL C. Rinehart 67
OL S. Heyer 67
OL E. Albright 65

DL A. Haynesworth 99
DL C. Griffin 84
DL A. Carter 84
DL P. Daniels 73
DL K. Golston 69
DL R. Wynn 68
DL A. Montgomery 66
DL R. Jackson 61
DL C. Wilson 58
DL L. Alexander 57

LB L. Fletcher 89 76 85
LB R. McIntosh 77 82 88
LB B. Orakpo 76 83 89
LB R. Thomas 60 76 85
LB A. Fincher 60 68 78
LB HB Blades 58 67 79
LB C. Glenn 46

CB C. Rogers 87 89 93
CB D. Hall 79 97 96
CB F. Smoot 69 88 90
CB K. Barnes 68 90 87
CB J. Tyron 54 88 90

S L. Landry 86 91 96
S C. Horton 70 84 86
S K. Moore 65 88 89
S R. Doughty 63 77 83

K S. Suisham 52

P H. Smith 81

Broncos

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
QB K. Orton 74
QB C. Simms 66
QB T. Brandstater 60

RB K. Moreno 81 86 96
RB C. Burkhalter 78 84 86
RB JJ Arrington 73 86 89
RB L. Jordan 66 74 82

FB P. Hillis 84 87 86

WR B. Marshall 92 88 91
WR E. Royal 82 93 94
WR J. Gaffney 74 82 85
WR B. Stokley 71 84 84
WR C. Jackson 56 85 84

TE D. Graham 83 68 73
TE T. Scheffler 79 80 85
TE R. Quinn 69 67 72

OL R. Clady 88
OL C. Wiegmann 87
OL B. Hamilton 81
OL C. Kuper 78
OL R. Harris 73
OL K. Lichtensteiger 71
OL S. Olsen 69
OL B. Gorin 68
OL T. Polumbus 67
OL P. Murray 63
OL L. Paxton 62

DL K. Peterson 72
DL M. Thomas 71
DL R. Fields 71
DL D. Reid 70
DL T. Crowder 66
DL E. Dumervil 65
DL M. Askew 64
DL N. Clemons 61

LB D.J. Williams 86 82 89
LB A. Davis 75 69 75
LB R. Ayers 74 78 85
LB B. Bailey 68 87 91
LB J. Moss 66 79 88
LB N. Greisen 65 61 77
LB S. Larsen 63 72 75

CB C. Bailey 96 96 97
CB A. Smith 76 91 94
CB A. Goodman 76 89 91
CB J. Bell 61 90 90
CB J. Williams 58 88 90

S B. Dawkins 92 85 87
S D. McBath 72 84 91
S R. Hill 72 82 87
S J. Barrett 62 90 95
S V. Fox 59 73 76

K M. Prater 58

P B. Kern 64

Cowboys

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
QB T. Romo 87 73 80
QB J. Kitna 68
QB S. McGee 59

RB M. Barber 88 85 93
RB F. Jones 78 96 97
RB T. Choice 76 88 93

FB D. Anderson 76

WR R. Williams 84 86 85
WR P. Crayton 73 85 87
WR M. Austin 71 91 92
WR S. Hurd 65 83 85
WR I. Stanbeck 63 88 87

TE J. Witten 97 75 79
TE M. Bennett 75 78 80

OL A. Gurode 93
OL L. Davis 92
OL F. Adams 88
OL K. Kosier 83
OL M. Colombo 81
OL D. Free 71
OL M. Holland 71
OL P. McQuistan 69
OL R. Brewster 67
OL C. Procter 64
OL M. Spanos 56

DL J. Ratliff 87
DL I. Olshansky 80
DL M. Spears 71
DL J. Siavii 63
DL J. Hatcher 59
DL T. Anderson 58
DL M. Dixon 48

LB D. Ware 98 86 97
LB K. Brooking 86 72 82
LB B. James 82 74 79
LB G. Ellis 80 74 86
LB A. Spencer 72 73 88
LB B. Carpenter 62 77 85
LB V. Butler 55 79 84
LB J. Williams 54 87 90

CB T. Newman 88 97 97
CB M. Jenkins 73 88 95
CB O. Scandrick 71 95 97
CB D. Smith 67 85 91
CB A. Ball 45 83 90

S K. Hamlin 84 84 87
S G. Sensabaugh 73 83 87
S M. Hamlin 68 77 81
S P. Watkins 67 83 90
S D. Smith 67 85 91
S T. Battle 59 88 86
S C. Brown 58 91 93

K N. Folk 87

P M. McBriar 95

Dolphins

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
QB C. Pennington 85
QB C. Henne 66
QB P. White 65 87 92

RB R. Brown 89 91 92
RB R. Williams 77 83 88
RB P. Cobbs 67 84 87

FB L. Polite 71

WR T. Ginn 78 97 98
WR G. Camarillo 74 82 86
WR D. Bess 73 87 90
WR P. Turner 67 81 86
WR E. Wilford 65 73 75
WR B. London 62 86 87

TE A. Fasano 83 67 70
TE D. Martin 71 70 74
TE J. Haynos 68 72 75

OL J. Long 91
OL V. Carey 86
OL J. Smiley 85
OL J. Grove 81
OL A. Alleman 73
OL B. Frye 70
OL D. Thomas 67
OL R. Starks 67
OL I. Ndukwe 57

DL J. Taylor 79
DL J. Ferguson 76
DL K. Langford 71
DL P. Merling 69
DL T. McDaniel 67
DL P. Soliai 63
DL J. Cohen 60
DL L. Dotson 50

LB J. Porter 94 78 86
LB C. Crowder 81 74 83
LB A. Ayodele 71 74 86
LB M. Roth 67 69 79
LB C. Anderson 65 73 82
LB R. Torbor 65 74 88
LB W. Kershaw 58 78 78
LB Q. Moses 55 71 86

CB V. Davis 77 92 97
CB S. Smith 75 87 87
CB W. Allen 75 91 89
CB E. Green 70 80 85
CB J. Allen 65 89 90
CB C. Clemons 64 92 95
CB N. Jones 55 83 89

S G. Wilson 84 82 85
S Y. Bell 81 79 85
S C. Clemons 64 92 95
S T. Culver 64 87 89
S C. Bryan 63 83 87

K D. Carpenter 63

P B. Fields 60

Falcons

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
QB M. Ryan 85
QB C. Redman 55
QB D. Shockley 42

RB M. Turner 95 91 96
RB J. Norwood 79 95 97
RB T. Brown 64 87 91
RB J. Snelling 63 72 75

FB O. Mughelli 86 67 74

WR R. White 93 94 95
WR M. Jenkins 79 81 84
WR H. Douglas 68 89 92
WR B. Finneran 67 72 75
WR A. Kelly 64 80 84

TE T. Gonzalez 98 82 82
TE J. Peelle 72 64 76
TE B. Hartsock 64 58 73

OL S. Baker 84
OL T. Clabo 81
OL T. McClure 78
OL H. Dahl 77
OL B. Romberg 76
OL J. Blalock 73
OL B. Wilkerson 70
OL Q. Ojinnaka 63
OL G. Reynolds 60

DL J. Abraham 95
DL P. Jerry 78
DL C. Davis 74
DL J. Babineaux 73
DL L. Sidbury 70
DL J. Anderson 70
DL T. Lewis 64
DL V. Walker 62
DL S. Fraser 60
DL K. Biermann 60
DL J. Jefferson 58

LB C. Lofton 80 77 84
LB M. Peterson 80 75 80
LB S. Nicholas 66 72 85
LB T. Gilbert 62 66 72
LB C. Wire 59 84 83
LB S. Adkins 55 81 85
LB R. James 54 71 82

CB C. Houston 75 93 94
CB C. Jackson 73 83 87
CB V. Hutchins 69 87 92
CB C. Owens 61 88 93
CB B. Grimes 46 81 87

S E. Coleman 78 81 82
S W. Moore 75 85 84
S A. Harris 64 85 86
S T. DeCoud 64 87 90

K J. Elam 92

P M. Koenen 80


Giants

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
QB E. Manning 87
QB R. Bomar 62
QB D. Carr 60
QB J. Lorenzen 38

RB B. Jacobs 90 86 92
RB A. Bradshaw 73 92 93
RB A. Brown 71 88 82
RB D. Ware 66 84 85

FB M. Hedgecock 87

WR S. Smith 76 87 89
WR H. Nicks 76 87 86
WR D. Hixon 70 85 87
WR R. Barden 66 82 84
WR M. Manningham 63 84 86
WR S. Moss 60 92 94

TE K. Boss 83 74 76
TE D. Johnson 69 78 73
TE T. Beckum 69 84 86

OL C. Snee 97
OL S. O'Hara 91
OL D. Diehl 88
OL K. McKenzie 88
OL R. Seubert 87
OL W. Beatty 76
OL G. Whimper 73
OL A. Koets 69
OL K. Boothe 66
OL M. Fladell 64

DL J. Tuck 95 84 88
DL O. Umenyori 94 85 92
DL M. Kiwanuka 85 73 88
DL C. Canty 84
DL F. Robbins 83
DL R. Bernard 80
DL B. Cofield 75
DL J. Alford 65
DL D. Tollefson 60

LB A. Pierce 86 77 85
LB M. Boley 82 82 88
LB C. Sintim 74 83 85
LB D. Clark 74 74 80
LB Z. DeOssie 72 75 82
LB B. Kehl 64 73 84
LB J. Goff 59 71 82
LB C. Blackburn 69 68 80

CB C. Webster 90 87 92
CB A. Ross 81 88 93
CB K. Dockery 76 85 87
CB T. Thomas 67 85 88
CB D. Wright 63 84 87

S K. Phillips 78 90 94
S M. Johnson 74 85 90
S C. Brown 70 80 83

K L. Tynes 66

P J. Feagles 87

Titans

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
QB K. Collins 79
QB V. Young 68 85 93
QB P. Ramsey 56

RB C. Johnson 88 99 98
RB L. White 79 78 87
RB J. Ringer 67 85 84
RB C. Henry 63 85 86

FB A. Hall 86 76 77

WR N. Washington 77 88 92
WR J. Gage 77 80 82
WR K. Britt 76 87 86
WR C. Davis 57 86 92
WR L. Hawkins 55 84 86
WR P. Williams 47 82 83

TE B. Scaife 83 78 85
TE A. Crumpler 77 68 72
TE J. Cook 75 85 88
TE C. Stevens 70 71 76

OL M. Roos 97
OL K. Mawae 95
OL D. Stewart 92
OL J. Scott 88
OL E. Amano 74
OL L. Harris 71
OL T. Kropog 70
OL M. Otto 68
OL J. Murphy 62
OL F. Velasco 57

DL K. Vanden Bosch 87
DL J. Haye 80
DL T. Brown 79
DL J. Ford 79
DL J. Kearse 75 80 87
DL J. Jones 75
DL S. Marks 71
DL D. Ball 66

LB K. Bulluck 95 84 88
LB D. Thornton 81 73 83
LB S. Tulloch 73 75 80
LB G. McRath 64 81 78
LB R. Fowler 64 65 84
LB C. Allred 60 76 75
LB J. Stamer 54 68 75

CB C. Finnegan 92 92 94
CB N. Harper 78 80 85
CB D. Faggins 65 85 87
CB R. Mouton 64 85 86
CB T. Davis 55 87 88

S M. Griffin 95 87 94
S C. Hope 92 78 85
S V. Fuller 69 78 89
S D. Nickey 55 74 78

K R. Bironas 96

P C. Hentrich 81

Eagles

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
QB D. McNabb 90 78 75
QB K. Kolb 68
QB AJ Feeley 51

HB B. Westbook 94 94 99
HB L. McCoy 75 92 95
HB L. Booker 66 92 95

FB L. Weaver 82 79 84

WR D. Jackson 81 95 98
WR J. Maclin 78 96 98
WR K. Curtis 76 92 94
WR R. Brown 72 85 83
WR J. Avant 65 77 81
WR H. Baskett 64 81 84

TE B. Celek 73 75 77
TE M. Schobel 72 74 77
TE C. Ingram 63 84 88

OL J. Peters 95
OL S. Andrews 92
OL S. Andrews 87
OL T. Herremans 87
OL J. Jackson 84
OL M. Jean-Gilles 69
OL W. Justice 66
OL M. Gibson 66
OL N. Cole 65
OL F. Tupou 65

DL T. Cole 91 84 92
DL B. Bunkley 82
DL J. Parker 80
DL D. Howard 78
DL M. Patterson 74
DL C. Clemons 72
DL T. Laws 70
DL V. Abiamiri 69
DL D. Klecko 65
DL A. Gordon 60

LB S. Bradley 77 73 82
LB C. Gocong 70 70 82
LB A. Jordan 70 76 82
LB O. Gaither 65 75 85
LB J. Mays 62 75 82
LB T. Daniels 59 77 79

CB A. Samuel 95 90 95
CB S. Brown 87 87 91
CB E. Hobbs 83 90 93
CB J. Hanson 75 86 88
CB M. Harris 69 85 88
CB J. Ikegwuonu 53 85 86

S Q. Mikell 86 82 86
S S. Jones 80 86 88
S R. Baker 67 80 84
S Q. Demps 65 89 93

K D. Akers 77

P S. Rocca 59

Browns

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
QB B. Quinn 71 71 72
QB D. Anderson 70 54 56
QB B. Ratliff 51

RB J. Lewis 85 83 85
RB J. Harrison 71 92 95
RB J. Davis 68 86 88
RB N. Herron 67 83 83

FB L. Vickers 88 73 80

WR B. Edwards 86 90 95
WR B. Robiskie 73 87 85
WR M. Massaqoui 71 84 91
WR D. Patten 69 87 88
WR J. Cribbs 63 89 95
WR P. Hubbard 43 81 85

TE S. Heiden 75 64 73
TE R. Royal 74 69 72
TE M. Rucker 70 77 84

OL J. Thomas 97
OL E. Steinbach 93
OL A. Mack 79
OL H. Fraley 79
OL R. Tucker 78
OL F. Womack 76
OL J. St. Clair 73
OL R. Hadnot 72
OL G. Foster 66
OL I. Sowells 65

DL S. Rogers 92
DL C. Williams 81
DL K. Coleman 79
DL R. Smith 77
DL S. Smith 74
DL D. Veikune 68
DL A. Rubin 61
DL C. Mosley 59

LB D. Jackson 86 75 86
LB E. Barton 79 71 74
LB K. Wimbley 78 77 88
LB L. Williams 71 75 87
LB D. Veikune 68 75 84
LB D. Bowens 67 70 77
LB A. Hall 61 80 82
LB K. Maiava 59 80 85
LB D. Holloway 50 72 74

CB E. Wright 79 88 91
CB B. McDonald 71 85 90
CB C. Francies 69 86 91
CB C. Ivy 68 87 88
CB H. Poteat 65 85 87
CB D. Carey 61 85 88

S B. Pool 77 87 91
S A. Elam 72 82 89
S M. Adams 65 76 79
S N. Sorensen 52 70 75

K P. Dawson 80

P D. Zastudil 77

Jets

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
QB M. Sanchez 78
QB K. Clemens 69
QB E. Ainge 42

RB T. Jones 90 87 93
RB L. Washington 79 93 97
RB S. Greene 73 82 85

FB T. Richardson 97 75 84
FB J. Caulcrick 62 82 80

WR J. Cotchery 81 82 85
WR C. Stuckey 67 87 91
WR B. Smith 66 85 88
WR D. Clowney 66 94 95
WR W. Wright 58 85 84
WR M. Henry 53 80 85

TE D. Keller 77 86 90
TE B. Franks 74 54 64
TE J. Dearth 46 58 60

OL A. Faneca 97
OL N. Mangold 94
OL D. Woody 85
OL B. Moore 81
OL D. Ferguson 80
OL M. Slauson 67
OL S. Daniels 62
OL R. Turner 61
OL W. Hunter 57
OL M. Kracalik 56

DL K. Jenkins 95
DL S. Ellis 86
DL M. Douglas 72
DL S. Pouha 68
DL H. Green 66
DL K. Brown 56
DL M. Devito 50

LB B. Scott 90 78 84
LB C. Pace 82 77 88
LB B. Thomas 75 73 86
LB D. Harris 74 72 77
LB V. Gholston 70 75 87
LB H. Murrell 64 75 79
LB L. Izzo 61 69 75
LB K. Trusnik 55 72 84

CB D. Revis 91 90 95
CB L. Sheppard 77 88 93
CB D. Lowery 72 85 87
CB A. Carroll 65 93 92
CB D. Strickland 63 86 85
CB D. Coleman 48 82 86

S K. Rhodes 92 82 90
S J. Leonhard 79 83 86
S E. Smith 67 77 82
S J. Ihedigbo 59 83 82

K J. Feely 77

P E. Wilbur 38

Lions

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
QB M. Stafford 79
QB D. Culpepper 72 70 75
QB D. Stanton 47

RB K. Smith 80 84 87
RB M. Morris 75 85 91
RB A. Brown 64 83 88
RB A. Cason 60 89 91

FB T. Smith 79 64 67
FB J. Bradley 68 63 65

WR C. Johnson 92 95 94
WR R. Curry 74 76 82
WR B. Johnson 71 86 87
WR D. Williams 68 90 94
WR J. Standeford 60 84 87
WR A. Jennings 54 90 92

TE B. Pettigrew 80 72 76
TE C. Fitzsimmons 70 72 70
TE W. Heller 66 60 70

OL D. Raiola 80
OL G. Cherilus 79
OL S. Peterman 78
OL J. Backus 77
OL D. Cook 70
OL J. Coston 70
OL D. Gandy 68
OL M. Ramirez 68
OL D. Loper 67
OL G. Foster 66
OL L. Murtha 65

DL D. White 77
DL G. Jackson 76
DL C. Darby 72
DL C. Avril 71
DL J. DeVries 71
DL I. Alama-Francis 64
DL A. Fluellen 61
DL S. Hill 61

LB J. Peterson 90 85 89
LB E. Sims 88 88 93
LB L. Foote 78 73 82
LB J. Dizon 63 76 85
LB A. Lewis 59 83 87
LB D. Levy 56 79 84

CB A. Henry 78 76 83
CB P. Buchanon 76 93 94
CB E. King 62 83 88
CB K. Smith 60 85 89
CB R. Robinson 57 78 85

S L. Delmas 77 86 90
S D. Bullocks 70 79 82
S G. Alexander 68 86 90
S K. Pearson 61 77 82

K J. Hanson 95

P N. Harris 67

Raiders

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
QB J. Garcia 75 73 71
QB J. Russell 72 70 74
QB A. Walter 57

RB J. Fargas 79 88 90
RB D. McFadden 79 94 96
RB M. Bush 75 80 85

FB L. Neal 91 65 66
FB O. O'Neal 74 70 72

WR D. Heyward-Bey 76 97 97
WR L. Murphy 71 93 89
WR J. Walker 71 84 79
WR J. Lee Higgins 69 93 96
WR C. Schilens 64 92 94
WR A. Shields 50 88 90

TE Z. Miller 86 72 77
TE T. Stewart 69 66 78

OL S. Satele 82
OL C. Carlisle 81
OL J. Wade 81
OL K. Barnes 80
OL R. Gallery 79
OL C. Green 74
OL M. Henderson 74
OL P. McQuistan 72
OL M. Johnson 67
OL C. Morris 61

DL D. Burgess 87
DL T. Kelley 80
DL J. Richardson 69
DL G. Warren 68
DL M. Shaughnessy 67
DL W. Joseph 66
DL T. Sands 64
DL T. Scott 64
DL R. Boschetti 59
DL G. Gunheim 57

LB K. Morrison 87 75 82
LB T. Howard 85 86 92
LB R. Brown 65 76 78
LB S. Williams 58 80 84
LB T. Ekejiuba 48 75 84
LB J. Alston 45 84 87

CB N. Asomugha 99 94 95
CB C. Johnson 80 95 93
CB S. Routt 72 95 94
CB J. Miller 57 95 96
CB D. Brown 47 93 94
CB J. Bowie 39 94 95

S H. Eugene 71 83 86
S M. Huff 71 87 86
S M. Mitchell 68 88 87
S T. Branch 61 92 94

K S. Janikowski 73

P S. Lechler 98

Changers

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
QB P. Rivers 89
QB B. Volek 67
QB C. Whitehurst 55

RB L. Tomlinson 94 90 91
RB D. Sproles 85 94 98
RB G. Johnson 65 79 81

FB M. Tolbert 73 76 74
FB J. Hester 70 79 88

WR V. Jackson 84 85 86
WR C. Chambers 78 88 94
WR M. Floyd 73 81 85
WR B. Davis 68 86 85
WR L. Naanee 64 79 84
WR K. Osgood 58 78 82

TE A. Gates 95 85 87
TE K. Wilson 73 72 80
TE B. Manumaleuna 71 55 74

OL K. Dielman 92
OL N. Hardwick 89
OL M. McNeill 89
OL K. Forney 77
OL J. Clary 76
OL L. Shelton 73
OL L. Vasquez 68
OL T. Green 67
OL S. Mruczkowki 64
OL C. Clark 59

DL J. Williams 93
DL L. Castillo 89
DL J. Cesaire 73
DL I. Scott 70
DL R. Bingham 61
DL A. Coleman 57
DL V. Martin 54

LB S. Phillips 89 83 92
LB S. Merriman 89 82 93
LB S. Cooper 77 76 81
LB L. English 72 79 83
LB J. Tucker 72 77 83
LB K. Burnett 70 78 87
LB T. Dobbins 65 79 82
LB M. Wilhelm 65 65 78
LB B. Siler 61 75 87

CB Q. Jammer 88 88 92
CB A. Cromartie 84 95 96
CB A. Cason 77 87 91
CB B. Hughes 63 87 91
CB C. Gordon 50 89 96

S E. Weddle 84 82 88
S C. Hart 71 80 85
S K. Ellison 66 75 82
S P. Oliver 57 87 91

K N. Kaeding 91

P M. Scifres 93

Panthers

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
QB J. Delhomme 80
QB J. McCown 60
QB M. Moore 55

RB D. Williams 94 95 96
RB J. Stewart 85 88 92
RB M. Goodson 66 87 92

FB B. Hoover 80
FB T. Fiammetta 70

WR S. Smith 97 97 97
WR M. Muhammad 79 75 79
WR D. Jarrett 65 78 81
WR R. Robinson 57 87 90
WR K. Moore 52 85 88

TE J. King 73 66 78
TE D. Rosario 69 70 75
TE G. Barnidge 69 82 82

OL J. Gross 95
OL J. Otah 86
OL T. Wharton 83
OL R. Kalil 82
OL K. Vincent 74
OL D. Robinson 70
OL M. Bernadeau 66
OL G. Cadogen 63
OL G. Schwartz 61
OL J. Geisinger 58

DL J. Peppers 97 85 95
DL D. Lewis 78
DL E. Brown 77
DL M. Kemoeatu 77
DL C. Johnson 68
DL T. Brayton 68
DL C. Irvin 65
DL H. Taylor 61
DL B. Oshinowo 60
DL N. Hayden 57

LB J. Beason 92 84 92
LB T. Davis 85 84 92
LB L. Johnson 69 72 86
LB N. Diggs 67 70 80
LB D. Connor 62 70 82
LB J. Anderson 61 76 86

CB C. Gamble 83 92 94
CB R. Marshall 76 88 92
CB C. Munnerlyn 63 88 92
CB D. Wesley 58 79 82
CB C. Wilson 54 77 85

S C. Harris 76 74 84
S C. Godfrey 72 90 92
S S. Martin 68 87 90
S N. Salley 61 75 82
S Q. Teal 58 85 83

K J. Kasey 91

P J. Baker 76

Seahawks

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
QB M. Hasselbeck 84
QB S. Wallace 69 84 85
QB J. Rowe 48

RB J. Jones 75 84 86
RB J. Forsett 68 88 90
RB TJ Duckett 66 74 80

FB O. Schmitt 77
FB J. Griffith 77

WR TJ Houshmanzadeh 91 82 88
WR D. Branch 79 87 91
WR N. Burleson 74 91 94
WR D. Butler 65 93 92
WR B. Obamanu 58 82 85
WR C. Taylor 51 82 84

TE J. Carlson 87 74 79
TE J. Owens 67 73 75
TE C. Morrah 56 83 85

OL W. Jones 94
OL M. Wahle 88
OL C. Spencer 79
OL S. Locklear 75
OL M. Unger 75
OL R. Sims 73
OL M. Wrotto 69
OL R. Willis 65
OL K. Williams 64

DL P. Kerney 93
DL C. Redding 81
DL C. Cole 79
DL D. Tapp 78
DL L. Jackson 73
DL B. Mebane 71
DL C. Terrill 64
DL B. Atkins 62
DL R. Bryant 62

LB L. Tatupu 90 79 94
LB A. Curry 84 86 90
LB L. Hill 83 77 87
LB D. Lewis 66 77 75
LB D. Hawthorne 60 78 80
LB L. Laury 56 64 67
LB W. Herring 55 75 84

CB M. Trufant 88 88 96
CB K. Lucas 77 88 87
CB J. Wilson 77 95 93
CB K. Jennings 71 90 91
CB K. Hobbs 40 77 80

S D. Grant 83 84 88
S B. Russell 76 75 80
S J. Babineaux 68 85 88
S C. Greene 64 86 89
S C. Wallace 51 75 82
S J. Adams 58

K O. Mare 77

P J. Ryan 70

Vikings

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
QB S. Rosenfels 69
QB T. Jackson 67 83 84
QB J.D. Booty 48

RB A. Peterson 97 95 97
RB C. Taylor 78 86 88

FB N. Tahi 78

WR B. Berrian 82 97 97
WR P. Harvin 76 97 98
WR B. Wade 74 81 85
WR S. Rice 71 80 86
WR G. Holt 64 84 87
WR D. Reynaud 61 88 86
WR A. Allison 61 87 89

TE V. Shiancoe 78 72 82
TE J. Kleinsasser 75 65 70
TE G. Mills 68 74 84

OL S. Hutchinson 98
OL B. McKinnie 90
OL A. Herrera 76
OL J. Sullivan 73
OL P. Loadholt 71
OL A. Hicks 70
OL R. Cook 67
OL B. Daniels 63
OL D. Radovich 62

DL J. Allen 98
DL K. Williams 97
DL P. Williams 91
DL R. Edwards 75
DL B. Robison 69
DL J. Kennedy 62
DL F. Evans 60
DL L. Guion 58
DL J. Mitchell 53

LB C. Greenway 83 76 85
LB E. Henderson 80 68 78
LB B. Leber 66 67 79
LB J. Brinkley 63 73 76
LB E. Henderson 62 70 79
LB D. Herron 60 80 80
LB H. Farwell 55 73 77

CB A. Winfield 88 83 87
CB C. Griffin 80 84 87
CB A. Allen 69 89 92
CB M. McCauley 66 84 90
CB K. Paymah 65 85 87
CB B. Sapp 65 86 87

S T. Johnson 75 89 92
S M. Williams 74 80 84
S H. Abdullah 64 87 88
S J. Sanford 61 82 84
S E. Frampton 60 82 84

K R. Longwell 81

P C. Kluwe 75

Rams

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
QB M. Bulger 78
QB K. Boller 51
QB B. Berlin 50

RB S. Jackson 92 86 92
RB A. Pittman 70 86 88
RB K. Darby 66 86 90
RB C. Ogbonnaya 65 82 84

FB M. Karney 80

WR D. Avery 75 94 96
WR L. Robinson 72 88 93
WR B. Foster 65 86 84
WR K. Burton 62 84 86
WR T. Carter 60 87 88
WR D. Stanley 55 85 85

TE R. McMichael 75 74 78
TE J. Klopfenstein 72 74 79
TE B. Bajema 68 61 67
TE D. Fells 62 76 79

OL J. Brown 90
OL J. Bell 86
OL J. Smith 84
OL A. Barron 77
OL J. Greco 76
OL R. Incognito 73
OL M. Setterstrom 73
OL R. Schuening 66
OL A. Goldberg 65

DL A. Carriker 82
DL C. Long 82
DL L. Little 79
DL J. Hall 76
DL V. Adeyanju 70
DL C. Ryan 66
DL O. Harris 65
DL E. Moore 59
DL D. Scott 53

LB W. Witherspoon 86 85 90
LB J. Laurinatiis 77 75 86
LB C. Chamberlain 66 81 85
LB C. Draft 65 74 79
LB Q. Culberson 64 76 82
LB D. Vobora 59 77 75

CB R. Bartell 81 87 88
CB T. Hill 71 97 95
CB B. Fletcher 63 86 92
CB J. King 53 93 94
CB J. Wade 53 91 92

S O. Atogwe 90 89 92
S J. Butler 80 80 85
S T. Johnson 64 76 80
S E. Bassey 55 87 88

K K. Brown 90

P D. Jones 87

Bengals

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
QB C. Palmer 88
QB JT O'Sullivan 60
QB J. Palmer 53

RB C. Benson 76 81 85
RB K. Watson 68 80 82
RB B. Leonard 65 78 82
RB B. Scott 63 89 94

FB J. Johnson 74
FB D. Coats 67

WR C. Ochocinco 89 93 93
WR L. Coles 87 90 91
WR C. Henry 69 88 86
WR A. Chatman 59 88 90
WR A. Caldwell 58 91 90
WR J. Simpson 57 87 92

TE R. Kelly 74 65 75
TE B. Utecht 71 68 72
TE C. Coffman 68 71 77

OL A. Smith 81
OL B. Williams 78
OL A. Whitworth 78
OL A. Collins 76
OL K. Cook 71
OL S. Kooistra 70
OL J. Luigs 68
OL D. Roland 62
OL N. Livings 58

DL D. Peko 80
DL P. Sims 76
DL R. Geathers 76
DL A. Odom 75
DL M. Johnson 72 86 92
DL T. Johnson 70
DL J. Fanene 62
DL F. Rucker 60

LB R. Maualuga 79 80 87
LB K. Rivers 78 87 92
LB D. Jones 75 73 76
LB R. Jeanty 74 77 82
LB A. Hodge 66 70 83
LB D. Blackstock 61 74 88
LB B. Johnson 48 79 88

CB J. Joseph 76 95 96
CB L. Hall 75 85 88
CB S. Castille 57 88 86
CB M. Trent 57 82 83
CB D. Jones 53 85 90

S R. Williams 79 75 80
S C. Ndukwe 74 85 85
S C. Crocker 73 83 91
S M. White 63 85 92
S K. Hebert 62 84 82

K S. Graham 87

P K. Huber 68

Texans

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
QB M. Schaub 77
QB D. Orlovsky 63
QB A. Brink 38

RB S. Slaton 87 92 93
RB R. Moats 69 88 90
RB C. Brown 67 78 81

FB V. Leach 77

WR A. Johnson 98 94 95
WR K. Walter 80 82 84
WR J. Jones 63 92 92
WR A. Davis 63 93 95
WR D. Anderson 53 79 85

TE O. Daniels 86 82 84
TE J. Casey 71 74 73
TE A. Hill 68 73 68
TE J. Dreessen 64 67 72

OL E. Winston 84
OL C. Pitts 80
OL D. Brown 79
OL C. Myers 75
OL M. Brisiel 71
OL A. Caldwell 70
OL R. Butler 69
OL K. Studdard 64
OL C. White 63

DL M. Williams 95 84 94
DL A. Smith 84
DL A. Okoye 81
DL C. Barwin 75
DL S. Cody 68
DL T. Johnson 66
DL D. Robinson 63
DL S. McClover 62
DL F. Okam 58

LB D. Ryans 88 75 85
LB B. Cushing 78 84 88
LB C. June 68 78 86
LB X. Adibi 67 77 88
LB K. Bentley 64 65 82
LB Z. Diles 63 70 80
LB K. Coley 59 77 78
LB C. Thompson 59 79 88

CB D. Robinson 84 93 96
CB F. Bennett 73 87 89
CB J. Reeves 72 86 92
CB G. Quin 65 85 87
CB D. Pittman 61 86 88
CB A. Molden 57 87 91

S E. Wilson 74 85 88
S N. Ferguson 70 73 79
S D. Barber 58 77 82
S B. Harrison 57 81 83

K K. Brown 79

P M. Turk 70

Bears

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
QB J. Cutler 87
QB C. Hanie 45

RB M. Forte 89 90 91
RB K. Jones 72 86 87
RB A. Peterson 69 80 85
RB G. Wolfe 69 90 94

FB J. McKie 82
FB J. Davis 70

WR E. Bennett 72 83 85
WR D. Hester 71 99 98
WR R. Davis 69 88 90
WR J. Iglesias 69 85 87
WR J. Knox 62 94 96

TE G. Olsen 82 85 87
TE D. Clark 79 70 82
TE K. Davis 64 78 80

OL O. Pace 87
OL O. Kreutz 87
OL R. Garza 80
OL K. Shaffer 79
OL J. Beekman 75
OL F. Omiyale 74
OL C. Williams 73
OL D. Buenning 72
OL P. Mannelly 63
OL T. Reed 60

DL T. Harris 92
DL A. Ogunleye 83
DL A. Brown 78
DL J. Gilbert 72
DL M. Anderson 71
DL D. Dvoracek 69
DL M. Harrison 68
DL A. Adams 65
DL I. Idonije 65

LB L. Briggs 95 78 84
LB B. Urlacher 94 85 90
LB H. Hillenmeyer 68 70 78
LB N. Roach 68 83 82
LB M. Freeman 63 84 87
LB J. Williams 57 72 78
LB J. LaRocque 57 75 85

CB C. Tillman 82 82 88
CB N. Vasher 75 85 86
CB D. Moore 74 87 88
CB T. McBride 65 86 89
CB C. Graham 60 83 87
CB Z. Bowman 53 85 87

S J. Bullocks 76 85 89
S K. Payne 76 85 87
S D. Manning 70 88 92
S C. Steltz 60 74 80

K R. Gould 94

P B. Maynard 77

Jaguars

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
QB D. Garrard 78 75 78
QB C. Lemon 47

RB M. Jones-Drew 89 93 95
RB R. Jennings 69 83 86
RB A. Pearman 67 87 90
RB C. Washington 62 79 86

FB G. Jones 90 78 84
FB M. Owens 68

WR T. Holt 84 86 87
WR J. Dillard 70 84 85
WR D. Northcutt 68 89 87
WR M. Thomas 67 95 95
WR T. Underwood 60 89 83
WR M. Walker 59 87 86
WR T. Williamson 58 92 89

TE M. Lewis 78 72 78
TE R. Angulo 68 67 66
TE G. Estandia 63 64 72

OL T. Thomas 88
OL M. Williams 83
OL B. Meester 83
OL E. Monroe 82
OL V. Manuwei 82
OL E. Britton 78
OL T. Pashos 75
OL D. Miller 70
OL J. Black 67
OL U. Nwaneri 66
OL D. Norman 64

DL J. Henderson 88
DL R. Hayward 75
DL Q. Groves 70
DL R. Meier 69
DL D. Harvey 68
DL D. Landri 68
DL J. Mincey 52
DL T. Knighton 51

LB D. Smith 85 75 85
LB C. Ingram 75 79 84
LB J. Durant 72 83 88
LB T. Shaw 63 79 85
LB B. Iwuh 50 70 82
LB T. Williams 49 70 80

CB R. Mathis 93 89 95
CB B. Williams 78 80 86
CB D. Cox 66 91 89
CB W. James 65 84 85
CB S. Starks 57 88 88
CB B. Witherspoon 48 97 96

S R. Nelson 83 93 95
S S. Considine 66 75 82
S C. Lowry 65 74 88

K J. Scobee 69

P A. Podlesh 64

Saints

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
QB D. Brees 96
QB J. Harringon 63
QB M. Brunell 62

RB R. Bush 79 97 98
RB P. Thomas 77 84 87

FB H. Evans 82

WR M. Colston 87 81 86
WR L. Moore 81 88 94
WR D. Henderson 67 95 96
WR R. Meachem 59 86 85
WR S. Green 53 90 94
WR A. Arrington 45 79 84

TE J. Shockey 85 75 79
TE D. Campbell 75 59 70
TE B. Miller 68 78 82

OL J. Brown 93
OL J. Evans 80
OL C. Nicks 78
OL J. Nesbit 75
OL J. Stinchcomb 75
OL J. Bushrod 67
OL J. Goodwin 67
OL N. Leckey 65
OL Z. Strief 62
OL T. Duckworth 60

DL S. Ellis 85
DL W. Smith 84
DL B. McCray 79
DL C. Grant 76
DL P. Spicer 73
DL K. Clancy 69
DL D. Pressley 59

LB J. Vilma 87 83 88
LB D. Morgan 74 79 82
LB M. Simoneau 71 71 82
LB S. Shanle 68 77 85
LB S. Fujita 68 75 86
LB J. Dunbar 59 75 79
LB T. Evans 51 68 75
LB S. Arnoux 51 87 86
LB M. Mitchell 44 63 75

CB M. Jenkins 79 86 93
CB J. Greer 77 86 88
CB R. *** 75 83 87
CB T. Porter 68 87 91
CB J. David 50 77 88

S D. Sharper 87 81 85
S R. Harper 75 75 82
S P. Prioleau 66 72 84
S C. Vaughn 63 90 87
S U. Young 81 88 92
S C. Reis 51 79 81

K G. Hartley 68

P G. Pakulak 61

Chiefs

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
QB M. Cassel 83
QB T. Thigpen 66
QB B. Croyle 56

RB L. Johnson 88 85 87
RB J. Charles 68 93 96
RB K. Smith 68 81 85
RB J. Williams 64 85 84

FB M. Cox 70

WR D. Bowe 86 86 92
WR B. Engram 76 79 85
WR M. Bradley 69 86 90
WR D. Darling 66 85 87
WR J. Webb 66 81 83
WR Q. Lawrence 51 92 95

TE B. Cottam 72 79 84
TE S. Ryan 68 60 72

OL B. Waters 94
OL B. Albert 84
OL M. Goff 80
OL R. Niswanger 75
OL H. Taylor 71
OL D. McIntosh 71
OL E. Ghiaciuc 69
OL W. Smith 66
OL B. De La Puente 65
OL B. Richardson 59

DL T. Jackson 77
DL G. Dorsey 75
DL A. Boone 69
DL R. Edwards 69
DL T. Tyler 67
DL T. McBride 67
DL A. Magee 65
DL W. Gilberry 61

LB D. Johnson 83 83 86
LB M. Vrabel 81 70 76
LB Z. Thomas 80 68 75
LB D. Williams 69 80 89
LB C. Mays 65 75 74
LB T. Hali 65 67 84
LB M. Beisel 61 66 80
LB B. Johnston 56 81 79
LB W. Dacus 54 77 78

CB B. Flowers 77 85 90
CB B. Carr 71 86 88
CB D. Washington 63 87 90
CB M. Leggett 59 89 87
CB T. Daniels 56 81 85

S B. Pollard 78 77 87
S J. Page 77 79 84
S D. Morgan 62 79 84
S J. McGraw 56 74 78

K C. Barth 66

P D. Colquitt 78

Bills

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
QB T. Edwards 76
QB R. Fitzpatrick 65

RB M. Lynch 87 87 90
RB F. Jackson 77 87 91
RB D. Rhodes 74 84 87

FB C. McIntyre 70

WR T. Owens 91 89 91
WR L. Evans 85 97 96
WR J. Reed 77 78 82
WR R. Parrish 66 95 96
WR J. Hardy 61 82 84
WR J. Jenkins 61 87 88

TE D. Fine 67 67 78
TE S. Nelson 67 83 87
TE D. Schouman 66 69 78

OL L. Walker 78
OL A. Levitre 76
OL B. Butler 76
OL E. Wood 75
OL G. Hangartner 74
OL S. McKinney 71
OL K. Chambers 71
OL J. Scott 65
OL M. Philip 62
OL D. Bell 52

DL M. Stroud 92
DL A. Schobel 86
DL C. Kelsay 78
DL A. Maybin 78
DL K. Williams 76
DL J. McCargo 70
DL R. Denney 68
DL S. Johnson 67

LB P. Posluszny 82 74 80
LB K. Mitchell 81 78 88
LB J. DiGiorgio 70 63 78
LB K. Ellison 68 78 84
LB J. Corto 62 79 80
LB P. Thomas 58 75 77
LB N. Harris 56 77 84

CB T. McGee 82 92 95
CB L. McKelvin 78 89 93
CB D. Florence 67 83 85
CB C. Harris 66 85 86
CB A. Youboty 62 85 87
CB R. Corner 55 84 88

S D. Whitner 85 88 90
S K. Simpson 73 80 85
S J. Byrd 72 85 92
S G. Wilson 69 79 90
S B. Scott 64 74 79
S J. Wendling 64 80 86

K R. Lindell 79

P B. Moorman 89

Packers

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
QB A. Rodgers 86
QB M. Flynn 54
QB B. Brohm 50

RB R. Grant 85 85 87
RB B. Jackson 70 86 87
RB D. Wynn 61 75 75

FB K. Hall 72
FB Q. Johnson 67

WR G. Jennings 90 93 96
WR D. Driver 85 86 88
WR J. Jones 71 87 89
WR J. Nelson 69 85 87
WR R. Martin 66 79 83

TE D. Lee 77 74 80
TE J. Finley 70 79 84

OL C. Clifton 86
OL J. Spitz 83
OL S. Wells 79
OL D. Preston 73
OL D. Colledge 72
OL A. Barbre 71
OL J. Meredith 71
OL J. Sitton 69
OL T. Lang 65
OL B. Giacomini 63
OL T. Moll 58

DL C. Jenkins 82
DL B. Raji 81
DL R. Pickett 78
DL J. Jolly 72
DL M. Montgomery 68
DL J. Harrell 63
DL J. Wynn 56

LB A. Kampman 93 78 86
LB N. Barnett 84 76 84
LB A. Hawk 78 81 88
LB C. Matthews 77 83 92
LB B. Poppinga 68 70 83
LB B. Chillar 62 70 82
LB D. Bishop 60 70 80
LB D. Lansanah 58 75 74
LB J. Thompson 50 75 78

CB C. Woodson 93 86 91
CB A. Harris 90 85 89
CB T. Williams 73 90 94
CB J. Bush 66 85 87
CB P. Lee 63 86 88
CB W. Blackmon 61 92 94

S N. Collins 93 89 92
S A. Bigby 80 80 85
S A. Rouse 66 79 84
S C. Peprah 54 79 82

K M. Crosby 72

P J. Kapinos 59

Cardinals

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
QB K. Warner 94
QB M. Leinart 68
QB B. St. Pierre 51

RB C. Wells 79 89 85
RB T. Hightower 75 84 85
RB J. Wright 71 82 85

FB D. Kreider 79
FB T. Castille 70

WR L. Fitzgerald 99 89 93
WR A. Boldin 94 89 88
WR S. Breaston 79 91 95
WR J. Urban 68 80 85
WR E. Doucet 64 81 82

TE A. Becht 76 60 62
TE S. Spach 73 71 72
TE L. Pope 73 72 78

OL M. Gandy 86
OL L. Brown 81
OL R. Wells 81
OL D. Lutui 76
OL L. Sendlein 72
OL B. Keith 69
OL T. Canfield 69
OL H. Johnson 67
OL E. Brown 66
OL E. Vallejo 59

DL D. Dockett 94
DL B. Berry 83
DL C. Okeafor 76
DL C. Campbell 74
DL B. Robinson 72
DL G. Watson 68
DL K. Iwebema 67
DL A. Branch 60

LB K. Dansby 89 79 87
LB G. Hayes 79 71 80
LB C. Haggans 72 70 74
LB C. Brown 65 75 83
LB A. Highsmith 63 75 82
LB P. Togafau 55 70 78

CB D. R-Cromartie 87 96 97
CB B. McFadden 78 85 87
CB W. Fontenot 60 88 89
CB G. Toler 59 93 92
CB R. Brown 56 78 85
CB M. Adams 46 79 88

S A. Wilson 97 85 90
S A. Rolle 84 84 92
S R. Johnson 71 85 81
S M. Ware 66 83 89
S A. Francisco 63 75 80
S K. Lewis 59 77 80

K N. Rackers 81

P B. Graham 69

Patriots

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
QB T. Brady 97
QB K. O'Connell 41

RB F. Taylor 82 88 89
RB L. Maroney 78 83 85
RB S. Morris 75 82 85
RB K. Faulk 74 85 87

FB D. Thomas 65

WR R. Moss 96 97 93
WR W. Welker 91 86 99
WR J. Galloway 79 91 92
WR B. Tate 69 86 88
WR G. Lewis 68 87 88
WR M. Slater 62 88 92
Wr S. Aiken 61 80 81

TE B. Watson 80 86 87
TE A. Smith 76 74 79
TE C. Baker 73 69 80

OL L. Mankins 94
OL M. Light 92
OL D. Koppen 91
OL S. Neal 87
OL N. Kaczur 84
OL R. Hochstein 74
OL A. Johnson 71
OL R. Ohrnberger 66
OL R. O'Callaghan 65
OL M. LeVoir 65
OL B. Yates 63
OL S. Vollmer 62

DL R. Seymour 95
DL V. Wilfork 90
DL T. Warren 87
DL J. Green 77
DL M. Wright 73
DL R. Brace 70
DL L. Smith 50

LB A. Thomas 90 87 88
LB J. Mayo 88 85 92
LB T. Bruschi 81 67 75
LB G. Guyton 70 85 86
LB P. Woods 67 73 84
LB T. Banta-Cain 65 70 86
LB S. Crable 63 73 86
LB E. Alexander 55 67 77

CB S. Springs 81 87 88
CB D. Butler 77 89 89
CB L. Bodden 76 84 87
CB J. Wilhite 64 89 93
CB T. Wheatley 62 88 95

S J. Sanders 82 78 85
S B. Meriweather 79 90 94
S P. Chung 75 85 85

K S. Gostkowski 89

P C. Hanson 71

Buccaneers

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
QB B. Leftwich 74
QB J. Freeman 73
QB L. McCown 70 75 77

RB D. Ward 84 88 91
RB E. Graham 79 82 86
RB C. Williams 72 86 90
RB C. Smith 67 88 90

FB B. Askew 80

WR A. Bryant 86 86 91
WR M. Clayton 70 81 82
WR M. Stovall 62 75 77
WR S. Stroughter 61 84 88
WR D. Jackson 46 90 92

TE K. Winslow 90 83 85
TE J. Stevens 77 77 82
TE J. Gilmore 70 63 74

OL D. Joseph 93
OL J. Faine 85
OL A. Sears 83
OL D. Penn 78
OL J. Trueblood 78
OL J. Zuttah 77
OL S. Mahan 76
OL A. Alabi 67
OL X. Fulton 62
OL J. Lee 61

DL G. Adams 78
DL C. Hovan 77
DL S. White 73
DL R. Sims 72
DL J. Wilkerson 64
DL R. Miller 63
DL K. Moore 62
DL G. Peterson 61

LB B. Ruud 87 76 86
LB A. Crowell 79 76 84
LB J. Phillips 73 77 83
LB G. Hayes 65 79 86
LB N. Koutouvides 63 70 85
LB Q. Black 61 86 88
LB A. Hayward 49 83 88

CB R. Barber 88 79 92
CB A. Talib 82 87 93
CB T. Cox 66 85 90
CB E. Biggers 61 94 92
CB E. Mack 60 87 88
CB K. Arrington 55 85 86

S T. Jackson 81 85 89
S W. Allen 70 79 86
S S. Piscitelli 67 87 85
S D. Nicholson 62 85 86

K M. Bryant 78
K M. Nugent 68

P J. Bidwell 83

Colts

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
QB P. Manning 99
QB C. Painter 62
QB J. Sorgi 47

RB J. Addai 85 89 92
RB D. Brown 77 88 92
RB M. Hart 65 76 82

FB G. Robinson 70
FB J. Tamme 68

WR R. Wayne 95 87 92
WR A. Gonzalez 75 88 90
WR A. Collie 68 84 88
WR P. Garcon 54 86 90
WR R. Hall 54 80 78

TE D. Clark 91 84 86
TE T. Santi 72 67 75

OL J. Saturday 93
OL R. Diem 89
OL R. Lilja 82
OL C. Johnson 81
OL M. Pollack 80
OL T. Ugoh 76
OL J. Richard 71
OL S. Justice 70
OL D. Federkeil 62
OL C. Hilliard 61
OL M. Toudouze 60

DL D. Freeney 94 87 94
DL R. Mathis 92 85 94
DL R. Brock 85
DL E. Foster 71
DL F. Moala 70
DL K. Dawson 69
DL T. Taylor 65
DL M. Howard 59
DL D. Muir 57

LB G. Brackett 82 73 79
LB T. Hagler 65 79 85
LB C. Session 65 75 80
LB F. Keiaho 64 79 87
LB P. Wheeler 62 77 87
LB A. Seward 60 74 77
LB M. Okwo 57 77 81

CB K. Hayden 87 87 88
CB M. Jackson 82 83 88
CB T. Jennings 68 94 96
CB D. Hughes 64 82 86
CB J. Powers 59 86 87
CB T. Rushing 50 91 93

S B. Sanders 95 92 94
S A. Bethea 88 88 91
S M. Giordano 67 91 90
S M. Bullitt 64 87 90

K A. Vinatieri 79

P P. McAfee 66

Top Free Agents

Position Name OVR SPD ACC
RB E. James 84 84 85
RB W. Dunn 75 87 88
RB R. Johnson 71

WR P. Burress 86 86 86
WR M. Harrison 82 86 88
WR A. Toomer 77 77 79
WR M. Booker 71


OT L. Jones 81
OT J. Runyon 80
OT M. Tauscher 79
OT J. Jennings 77
OT L. Petitgout 77
OT S. Olivea 76
OT J. Fabini 76

OG K. Simmons 79

DL B. Young 71
DL K. Gbaja Biamila 77

LB D. Edwards 71
LB D. Brooks 77 76 76

CB C. McAlister 86 87 90
CB D. Bly 77 87 89
CB S. Madison 77 81 83
CB T. Law 77 81 84
CB P. Surtain 76 82 84

S R. Harrison 80
S L. Milloy 78

K J. Carney 85
K M. Stover 84

[JETS5128]

Darrelle Revis is way too low
Harris should be at least an 80
Faneca is too high
The rest of the jets ratings are pretty spot on, maybe drop Richardson a couple points

[The Great Jonathan Vilma]

Thanks for the post dude, some interesting details in there.

[Paul]

Colombo is our best OLineman, he should be rated higher then others on the line. And Bradie James is heads and shoulders above Brookings right now.

[The Great Jonathan Vilma]

Darrelle Revis is way too low
Harris should be at least an 80
Faneca is too high
The rest of the jets ratings are pretty spot on, maybe drop Richardson a couple points

I don't know if it is 'way' too low, as his rating relative to other CBs is pretty solid. There are a few that i would say should be adjusted, but it isn't bad, 91 is a solid rating if you look at the other CBs. Got to see the finer details first.

Harris I would have thoughts would get a 77/78, based on when i looked at the Bears/Vikings/Lions/Packers ratings. Guess his injury season dropped him down.

[CashmoneyDrew]

David Thornton 14 points lower than Keith Bulluck? I don't think so. maybe 5 at most.

[Shane P. Hallam]

And an FYI for people, the rookie ratings were determined BEFORE they were drafted.

[MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)]

Gameplay vid still looks like the same terrible game I barely touched after I bought it this year.

[the decider13]

Broncos got hosed...no surprise. Ryan Clady is an 88, while Jake Long is a 91 and Jason Peters is a 95. wtf? Ryan Harris and Kuper in the 70's? They're taking a strength of the team and making it a weakness. The only player that surpsrisingly got love is Peyton Hillis. At least I have something to look forward to.

[Cicero]

Broncos got hosed...no surprise. Ryan Clady is an 88, while Jake Long is a 91 and Jason Peters is a 95. wtf? Ryan Harris and Kuper in the 70's? They're taking a strength of the team and making it a weakness. The only player that surpsrisingly got love is Peyton Hillis. At least I have something to look forward to.

You missed Dumervil being listed as a DL instead of OLB.

[the decider13]

You missed Dumervil being listed as a DL instead of OLB.

Woah...you are right. He got screwed. A 65 rated DL when he should be at LB. Kinda hard to rate guys that are converting, but no matter what they have him playing, that is too low. Unless it was NT haha

[rockio42]

I didn't read all the rating but just as I was skimming it...I caught that Jared Gaither was only a 79...the guy is 6'9 315 pounds and let up 3 sacks playing LT...what the hell! (on that note...Wilie Colon is a 78)

Why is Ricky Jean-Francious of the 49ers listed as an OL....

How is Babineax rated worse than Jerry when Jerry hasn't played a down and Babineax just had his best pro season and a big extension

[JETS5128]

I don't know if it is 'way' too low, as his rating relative to other CBs is pretty solid. There are a few that i would say should be adjusted, but it isn't bad, 91 is a solid rating if you look at the other CBs. Got to see the finer details first.

Harris I would have thoughts would get a 77/78, based on when i looked at the Bears/Vikings/Lions/Packers ratings. Guess his injury season dropped him down.

Revis should be in the 95-97 range IMO

[Shane P. Hallam]

Revis should be in the 95-97 range IMO

And I think Aaron Smith should be a 99. Doesn't mean I am right!

[Gay Ork Wang]

Corey Graham played great last year, should be at least like Vashers Rating

[Sniper]

Eagles got raped by Madden. Jason Avant at 65? Seriously? There a whole bunch more, too. I do have to say that Jason Peters and Ellis Hobbs (just two off the top of my head) are higher to way higher than where they should be.

[The Great Jonathan Vilma]

I'll wait to see all the individual attribute ratings before i complain about anything, since i strongly advocate the 'overalls are just a sum of the individual parts' thing...

[Vox Populi]

Worst rating there - Shawne Merriman the same as Shaun Phillips. WTF? There were others, but that one was brutal. Shaun Phillips an 89 in general is pretty brutal...

Homer - Leodis McKelvin with 89 speed, McGee with 92, have they ever even watched a Bills game since 2004? McGee isn't the same fast return specialist that he was, he is much more of a zone corner than McKelvin and McKelvin is probably the fastest guy I've seen play in a Bills uniform other than Lee Evans. Especially straight line speed wise. The kid is a burner.

[lordquas]

ratings should be based off of.
- Previous Season Stats
- Reputation
- Overall Skill Set

So Why The F#$% is Joe Flacco an 81

[Shane P. Hallam]

ratings should be based off of.
- Previous Season Stats
- Reputation
- Overall Skill Set

So Why The F#$% is Joe Flacco an 81

Once again, look at individual stats. 5 bucks says Flacco is a Top 10 QB in this game due to his arm strength.

[The Great Jonathan Vilma]

Vox, you got to change that avatar, it makes me want to just rip her clothes off everytime i see it....

What is wrong with Flacco as an 81?

[Sniper]

ratings should be based off of.
- Previous Season Stats
- Reputation
- Overall Skill Set

So Why The F#$% is Joe Flacco an 81

Yeah, I have no idea how Madden wasn't blown away 1.17:1 TD:INT ratio or the fact that the defense carried him all year. 81 is right where he should be.

[lordquas]

Flacco deserves at least an 84

[The Great Jonathan Vilma]

Flacco deserves at least an 84

Some things i'd like to see you elaborate on to justify this.

1. Please mentioned which attributes should be increased to see this 3 point increase to his overall rating.
2. Please state which QBs that are rated higher than him that he should surpass in overall rating.

[GB12]

Flacco deserves at least an 84
Using the old system, maybe. With the new one, definitely not. 81 is pretty generous for him in the new system.

[lordquas]

Using the old system, maybe. With the new one, definitely not. 81 is pretty generous for him in the new system.

please explain this new rating system
i haven't heard too much about it

[Gay Ork Wang]

please explain this new rating system
i haven't heard too much about it
they set everything down. where as the worst person last year was 65 its 35 this year

[Smooth Criminal]

Some of the Steelers ratings are awful. William *** played great ast year when McFadden was hurt. *** is the competing to be the starter over Townsend, so their ratings are pretty far off. Now hes in the 60s rated worse than a rookie. Keisel at 76, only 1 above Ziggy Hood, is horrible. Keisel has played really well since he took over in 2006.

I like them scaling the ratings down, cause there were always way to many great teams with rosters full of great players. This seems to be more realistic. But as always, some of the ratings simply arnt accurate.

[Shane P. Hallam]

Some of the Steelers ratings are awful. William *** played great ast year when McFadden was hurt. *** is the competing to be the starter over Townsend, so their ratings are pretty far off. Now hes in the 60s rated worse than a rookie. Keisel at 76, only 1 above Ziggy Hood, is horrible. Keisel has played really well since he took over in 2006.

I like them scaling the ratings down, cause there were always way to many great teams with rosters full of great players. This seems to be more realistic. But as always, some of the ratings simply arnt accurate.

Look at the whole picture my man. I think our rankings are fine.

[Smooth Criminal]

Look at the whole picture my man. I think our rankings are fine.

The worst ones are the speeds. Limas Sweed an 81? Timmons in the 70s while Woodley and Harrison are in the 80s? Timmons is definately the fastest linebacker we have on the team.

I really hope these arn't final. Theres some huge errors.

[Matthew Jones]

Honestly even an 81 is high for Flacco. You're telling me an average QB couldn't have put up 2,900 yards and 14 TDs? He should be rated around what Kyle Orton is rated.

[Shane P. Hallam]

The worst ones are the speeds. Limas Sweed an 81? Timmons in the 70s while Woodley and Harrison are in the 80s? Timmons is definately the fastest linebacker we have on the team.

I really hope these arn't final. Theres some huge errors.

Then you can edit them yourself!

[Matthew Jones]

For the Pats, I think Brady is a little low. He should be a 99. I think Maroney is a little high and Faulk is a little low - the guy averaged 6.1 ypc last year, caught a ton of passes, and to my knowledge was never tackled for a loss. I'd put Greg Lewis a little higher than Tate and lower Ben Watson a little bit, or raise the other two tight ends. Offensive line ratings are too high, they allowed a ton of sacks last year. I'd lower everyone but Kaczur by 5-7 points, Koppen more. Vince Wilfork is a little low and Seymour a little high. I'd raise Pierre Woods a little, and Wilhite and Wheatley about ten points each. Meriweather should also be the top rated safety on the team. Stephen Gostkowski is a Pro Bowler and he's not even a 90 also.

Brady - 99
Maroney - 75
Faulk - 78
Greg Lewis - 72
OL - lower by 7 each, keep Kaczur at 84
Wilfork - 93
Seymour - 93
Woods - 72
Wilhite - 74
Wheatley - 72
Meriweather - 84
Gostkowski - 92

[The Great Jonathan Vilma]

The worst ones are the speeds. Limas Sweed an 81? Timmons in the 70s while Woodley and Harrison are in the 80s? Timmons is definately the fastest linebacker we have on the team.

I really hope these arn't final. Theres some huge errors.

I actually noticed that myself too. Timmons speed should definitely be higher, i'll give you that.

[rchrd]

Offline franchise blog is up... http://insideblog.easports.com/archive/2009/06/16/madden-nfl-10-franchise-mode-improvements-part-2-q-amp-a.aspx

Couple of good bits of info, RB's actually splitting carries is a pretty big one for me. The franchise hub layout looks a bit cartoonish to me, but definitely more alive.

The whole cpu draft logic looks to be a major fix, cpu values its picks more, the draft class improvement, free agency logic. All major issues, hopefully it follows through with these promises.

The extra point show looks pretty sick, although will probably get boring real quick. Still looks good.

[neko4]

I think alot of these postion problems should be fixed by the time the game comes out (Ricky Jean Francois as OL, dumervil as DL)

As far as the pack goes, i was a little suprised at AJ Hawk's rating, even in the new system

I like the cpu draft logic thing being fixed, it was so annoying how in my imported draft classes, 75% of the qb's would have first or 2nd round grades and basically all of them would be gone by round 3

[lordquas]

Joe Flacco >>>>>>>>>>>> Kyle Orton
are you kidding me?
Flacco was a rookie last year, are you forgetting that? The sky is the limit.
He was poised, confident, smart, and matured pretty well throughout the whole season. His arm is spot on. He can make any NFL throw you'd ask of a QB. Kyle Orton is decent but can crumble under pressure and makes many different mistakes.
Flacco should be an 84
Orton should be a 79

[The Great Jonathan Vilma]

What does 'the sky is the limit' have to do with his rating in this upcoming years game? The sky is the limit for Sanchez and Stafford too.....they weren't even rookies last year, so who knows how good they could be this year.

But in all seriousness, his arm strength will surely be good. Solid accuratcy. Average awareness, as he is still young. Slow, but with solid presence. Too bad 'crumbles under pressure' isn't an attribute that they could apply to Orton to bring down, and bring up Flacco...

[TheBuffaloBills]

McKelvin, 89 Speed..... Really?

[kalbears13]

I don't want to be a ***** but I'm just wondering why Brady Quinn and Derek Anderson are a 71 and 70 respectively and Stafford and Sanchez are a 79 and 78. I know they were drafted 1 and 3 overall but they are rookies. Am I wrong to think this? Please someone enlighten me.

[lordquas]

yeah this rating system is wack

[Shane P. Hallam]

Then edit it how you want, but honestly, it is about what it usually is

[M.O.T.H.]

Hopefully 3-4 OLBs actually get sacks when simulating. I doubt it.

[The Great Jonathan Vilma]

I know, it's unheard of to have rookies rated higher than some guys who have played in the league.....how can they have that?!?

My guess, is they took some different attributes, rated them what they think the player is at roughly, and then came up with some formula that gave the player an overall.....just a hunch though.

[kalbears13]

I know, it's unheard of to have rookies rated higher than some guys who have played in the league.....how can they have that?!?

My guess, is they took some different attributes, rated them what they think the player is at roughly, and then came up with some formula that gave the player an overall.....just a hunch though.

Am I that big of a homer to think that Anderson (been to one pro bowl in his year and a half of playing) and Quinn (who has been sitting and watching for 2 years and also a 1st round pick) be THAT far below two rookies? Even Josh Freeman is a 73. Someone please tell me I'm not insane for thinking that. I'm not pointing out other instances, just this one.

[The Great Jonathan Vilma]

No, you aren't wrong for thinking that, and i totally see where you are coming from. There has always been the issue of how to rate a rookie. Odds are, you give them the attribute ratings that you think they deserve (somewhat subjective as this is a different level of competition) and give them lower awareness which brings them down. No science by any means.

Anderson has been to a Pro Bowl, but you don't rate a guy on his best season, so they will go off the most recent. Anderson has some flaws to his game that bring down his rating, lack of accuracy being one of them. I'm not certain how the overall is determined from these, but i'd assume accuracy would drop him considerably. Quinn is relatively unproven. I understand that the rookies are also, so that isn't really an arguement, but you also can't have the rookies always come in as the worst at their position just because they haven't played a down. A level of optimism, as well as the fact that many will start (QB and non-QBs), so they put them somewhere in the average category.....

I don't have the answers, and i see where you are coming from, but that would be my thinking.

[trkaline]

Jeez all this bitching and noones even played the game yet...I liked 08 and 09 the only 2 years I was disappointed was 06 and 07, its far from perfect but its football g'dammit. Dont like it, dont play it the franchise will live on without you.

[LonghornsLegend]

Jeez all this bitching and noones even played the game yet...I liked 08 and 09 the only 2 years I was disappointed was 06 and 07, its far from perfect but its football g'dammit. Dont like it, dont play it the franchise will live on without you.

And then they all go buy it.

[LonghornsLegend]

Honestly, as far as ratings go, everyone here knows they do updates as the season goes like twice a month, if your favorite player is rated too low they'll adjust it shortly after, or like Jbond said edit it yourself...I've been doing that since 04, and for the past 3 years I had been putting RW(the safety) down 7 pts, speed way lower, awareness way lower, it's really not even a big deal though because they update rosters and ratings so much.


This stuff about the franchise mode updates got me excited though:

Q: How will the scouting process work for rookies pre-draft and how is it different from the last few iterations of Madden or similar to HC?
A: Scouting is different than it was in ’09. This year you pick the players you want to scout and each week a piece of information is unlocked about them. At first, the information will be a bit vague. You’ll see comments like, “His awareness is less than an 80.” Once you scout the player a few more weeks, you’ll clear up the vague comments and see something along the lines of, “Ok, we’re sure that his awareness is a 76.”
This will help you get a total picture of the player. Since you also have an idea of what his potential is, you can combine the information to determine if the player has high potential and if he’s able to be more than a project. Just because a player has high potential doesn’t mean that he’ll be a productive player for a while. You may draft players in the 7th round with high potential but they’ll come in at 59 overall. So it could take years for them to be ready to play significant roles. If you do your homework, you can find the Marques Colston’s of the Draft. Players with high potential and high overalls that can contribute right away. I spent a lot of time tuning the draft classes so that there are really busts and gems in the draft now. You may draft a LT who comes out at 80 overall but has a potential of 81. Or you may draft a QB in the 6th round who has a 99 potential and a 78 overall rating ala Tom Brady.



Q: How are the draft classes, are they the same classes from Headcoach?
A: The draft classes are my favorite thing about franchise mode this year. They are different from Head Coach (some old HC favorites were carried over) but they were all hand created like they were there. I created lots of different types of players, too. Run Stopping DEs vs. Pass Rushing DEs, big bruising backs vs. scat backs, etc. I think you guys will have a blast trying to find the hidden gems and living with the busts. I can’t you how satisfying it is to turn a team around like I did when playing a few seasons with the Bengals. I couldn’t run the ball at all with Cedric Benson for 17 games in year one. I got into the offseason and found a RB in the 3rd round that immediately ignited my running game in year two. I made the playoffs and that kid won rookie of the year.



Q: Do CPU teams value their Draft Picks more than before?
A: Yes, they do. In the past, you could trade for the #1 pick by offering up something like the 15th overall pick and a 3rd rounder. We tuned it so that you have to offer up much more to get high draft picks now.



Q: Is there a noticeable difference between regular season and playoff games?
A: Yes. Ian and the presentation team did a lot of great things to make sure that the playoffs felt different than the regular season. I’m not going to spoil them for you, but I have a feeling your jaws are going to drop when you see some of the things we have in store.


Their long overdue with the whole 'gem' and 'bust' process...There should be lots more bust in the 1st round, and guys in round 5-7 that like they said will be a 77 with a 90 potential, that makes the draft more exciting with late picks.


Though I'm more concerned with how their going to handle the NCAA draft classes uploading, I do that for the first 4 years before I start with Madden's draft classes.


I also didn't hear them go into how the TC was going to be, is it going to change, same style or what? I kinda like the old set up of doing drills, and think they should add a few more in the system.

[djp]

Honestly, as far as ratings go, everyone here knows they do updates as the season goes like twice a month, if your favorite player is rated too low they'll adjust it shortly after, or like Jbond said edit it yourself...I've been doing that since 04, and for the past 3 years I had been putting RW(the safety) down 7 pts, speed way lower, awareness way lower, it's really not even a big deal though because they update rosters and ratings so much.


This stuff about the franchise mode updates got me excited though:




Their long overdue with the whole 'gem' and 'bust' process...There should be lots more bust in the 1st round, and guys in round 5-7 that like they said will be a 77 with a 90 potential, that makes the draft more exciting with late picks.


Though I'm more concerned with how their going to handle the NCAA draft classes uploading, I do that for the first 4 years before I start with Madden's draft classes.


I also didn't hear them go into how the TC was going to be, is it going to change, same style or what? I kinda like the old set up of doing drills, and think they should add a few more in the system.

They've already said the NCAA classes will translate more realistically to Madden, as you know players were coming in at 90 overall in the draft class and you could get an 80 in round 6 no problem.

[rchrd]

I think it's pretty cool you got the lead designers from madden posting on OS but it's gone from 'madden is broke fix it whaaaaaa!!' so they do all this stuff to fix the things that were broken and now it 'okay so we're getting no new features? its the same game whaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!' it's jokes to read but i dunno how they put up with it.

I was sold when they showed coloured cleats, top half sleeves for qb's, towels, hand warmers and proper team coloured gloves lol. I'm a simple fellow...

[M.O.T.H.]

I hope they improved the coach hiring screen. I want to actually see where these guys have been coaching in the past. Their past records and such. They used to do this on PS2. I'd also like to see like an offensive/defensive rank next to offensive/defensive coords. So, you can see how well they did at their previous location. Coaches should have stat/profile screens just like players do, imo.

And yeah...my biggest gripe when simulating next to the broken split carries problem would be that 3-4 OLBs dont get sacks and there is no way to make it so they do blitz the QB. Improved strategy sliders would be nice. Ummm, fake rookie pictures wouldnt be bad either. Like ESPN football back in the day or the NBA 2K basketball series. Make it so they atleast have a player pic of a real looking dude.

[rchrd]

Totally agree on the picture thing, it works well in NBA just so you dont have a screen full of sillouette's after a few years. Well that was until it ruined my Thunder franchise after I took 3 players with exactly the same face (diff pics) and a 7''1' C who had the JR Smiths face (while JR was also on my team). 5 players 2 faces lol :(

accelerated clock being back is massive (no idea why it went in the first place)

[M.O.T.H.]

haha...I had two guys with the Trevor Ariza face in one of the 2K games. It annoyed the hell out of me. What annoyed me more, though. Is that unlike their picture of Ariza's head...they were both sporting giant afros. haha. And I couldnt edit their appearance.

[lordquas]

i hate how on all madden the computer defense always knows your play. You have to audible almost every play for it to work.
And whats with the computer QB always throwing 1 to 3 yard passes every attempt.
Drew Brees will be like 18 of 30 for under 150 yards.
Not to mention the offensive line on All Madden is impossible to get through. No sacks, even with the Ravens. To get a sack yourself in the game it requires insane amounts of luck.
They need to change the computer AI completely.

[M.O.T.H.]

I think you're just bad at madden. :) ;)

If anything, All-Madden, just like Heisman in NCAA is way too easy.

[lordquas]

not saying i dont win.
its just the computer sucks real bad

[The Great Jonathan Vilma]

I think you're just bad at madden. :) ;)

If anything, All-Madden, just like Heisman in NCAA is way too easy.

Eh, i would agree though, i go like 12-4 and i really don't get many sacks unless the QB is a scrambler, so i see what he's saying.

[MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)]

haha...I had two guys with the Trevor Ariza face in one of the 2K games. It annoyed the hell out of me. What annoyed me more, though. Is that unlike their picture of Ariza's head...they were both sporting giant afros. haha. And I couldnt edit their appearance.

Derrick Rose was a Chinese guy for me on NBA 2k8. Mighta been Yi. I always thought he had Asian facial structure, but that might be a tad too much.

[M.O.T.H.]

Eh, i would agree though, i go like 12-4 and i really don't get many sacks unless the QB is a scrambler, so i see what he's saying.

I always get way too many sacks, in my experience. Difference is that I'm using the 3-4, though. So, I'm getting 20+ with Ware from just rushing off the edge. It's rather easy. Now, if you're using an end or something, I couldnt help you much there. I never use them and have trouble getting through w/ d-lineman myself.

But even if you just do mass middle LB blitz's, your Lbs should get plenty. Like Bradie James in my franchises always gets about 10 a year and that is without me being him most of the time.

But as for difficulty...I think Madden is very easy. The cpu cant run regardless of who the RB is and they constantly throw the same routes over and over and over. Almost all of my ints w/ Ware are on the same damn curl routes. They throw it, covered or not...this leads to atleast an int a game for Ware when I play. The AI is garbage.

[Shane P. Hallam]

That's why there are sliders

[M.O.T.H.]

You can jack up the sliders all the way and they still wont be able to run, unless they break like 5 tackles. It's much harder trying to stop a human player run than it is the cpu. And it doesnt matter who the RB is, it's all the same. Dynamic players arent dynamic enough.

[lordquas]

and QBs never look down field

[DuckHunt]

http://www.virtualsportsnetwork.com/madden-nfl-10-titansravens-full-game/

Full game of Madden 2010, it's the Alpha version so it's still a work in progress. But it looks very good, presentation is SUPERB I think. A whole lot better compared to last year where the presentation was "blah"

[The Great Jonathan Vilma]

I always get way too many sacks, in my experience. Difference is that I'm using the 3-4, though. So, I'm getting 20+ with Ware from just rushing off the edge. It's rather easy. Now, if you're using an end or something, I couldnt help you much there. I never use them and have trouble getting through w/ d-lineman myself.

But even if you just do mass middle LB blitz's, your Lbs should get plenty. Like Bradie James in my franchises always gets about 10 a year and that is without me being him most of the time.

But as for difficulty...I think Madden is very easy. The cpu cant run regardless of who the RB is and they constantly throw the same routes over and over and over. Almost all of my ints w/ Ware are on the same damn curl routes. They throw it, covered or not...this leads to atleast an int a game for Ware when I play. The AI is garbage.

Yeah, the Jets use the 3-4 also, but i like to use the ILB rather than the OLB. I do blitz my OLB's often, but they almost never get sacks, and i usually lead the team with around 5. I guess i could mix up who i use and go with the OLB on occassion....

Having D-Ware might help too, as the guy is pretty much amazing...

[bhaarat316]

Yeah, the Jets use the 3-4 also, but i like to use the ILB rather than the OLB. I do blitz my OLB's often, but they almost never get sacks, and i usually lead the team with around 5. I guess i could mix up who i use and go with the OLB on occassion....

Having D-Ware might help too, as the guy is pretty much amazing...

How did he get 20+ sacks? James Harrison for me had 2, in the entire season. I play with safety though. The computer sucks at blitzing for u, and the line can pick up 7 people blitzing, the CPU.

[rchrd]

http://www.virtualsportsnetwork.com/madden-nfl-10-titansravens-full-game/

Full game of Madden 2010, it's the Alpha version so it's still a work in progress. But it looks very good, presentation is SUPERB I think. A whole lot better compared to last year where the presentation was "blah"

I might be wrong but IIRC since that vid they found something that was basically killing the pass rushers and have taken it out.

from Ian Cummings on twitter...

'I just got tooled 28-7 by a designer that worked on Wii. I am shaken. He had the Colts and his pass rush was killing me. Happy now OS?!?!?!?'

lol

here's the link to a vid of practice mode with the bills showing the front 4 pressure...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiH1cl3ELCw&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.operationsports.com%2Fforums %2Fmadden-nfl-football%2F325603-new-pass-rushing-video-practice-mode.html&feature=player_embedded

Looking good.

[M.O.T.H.]

How did he get 20+ sacks? James Harrison for me had 2, in the entire season. I play with safety though. The computer sucks at blitzing for u, and the line can pick up 7 people blitzing, the CPU.

Just shift the line to one side, opposite the TE. Everyone is occupied and you're free to take a wide angle to the QB.

[M.O.T.H.]

Yeah, the Jets use the 3-4 also, but i like to use the ILB rather than the OLB. I do blitz my OLB's often, but they almost never get sacks, and i usually lead the team with around 5. I guess i could mix up who i use and go with the OLB on occassion....

Having D-Ware might help too, as the guy is pretty much amazing...

lol. I totally spaced on that but, try using the OLBs sometimes. Inside blitz's work well when the ILB is cpu controlled, much better than blitzing OLBs that are cpu guys. I'm Ware on every play.

[rockio42]

Does it seem to anyone else on those madden ratings from ESPN that RBK and PBK are mixed up...Jeff Otah at 96 Pass and only 85 Run and Jeremy Trueblood as the same seems a little wierd....both are much better run-blockers than pass in real life...

[The Great Jonathan Vilma]

Yes, that is very backwards. I can at least say that for Otah, and i'll assume the same for Trueblood since you say so (i'm not overly familiar with his game)

[rockio42]

Yes, that is very backwards. I can at least say that for Otah, and i'll assume the same for Trueblood since you say so (i'm not overly familiar with his game)

Do you think they just switched them around or are the ratings THAT screwed up in the area...

[The Great Jonathan Vilma]

Hmm, well, it depends where they are getting their knowledge from and who makes the final decision on the ratings....but my thoughts would be that they were mixed up. It isn't uncommon, when entering large amounts of data, to have an error like this. It would be more likely to have two things switched than it is to accidentally put a 70 versus a 90 (at least i would think).

[trkaline]

I got like 36 sacks in a season using Suggs as a DE.

[LonghornsLegend]

I want to see the ratings on a whole, player by player, and unless I get a good spreadsheet I probably won't until the game comes out. With the ratings tweaked some guys look low at first but I want to see how they compare.


For instance, does anyone know what the other 2nd year corners are ranked as? Talib, Flowers, Cason, or really any solid young corner...I think Jenkins was a 71 or 72 so I'm interested in how that compares.


Just seems like if most rookies are mid 70's in the 1st round from this class, that last years corners would be high 70's, at least some of them.

[AJHawk50]

Who's ready for some Madden??? 7 days away...

[crites09]

Who's ready for some Madden??? 7 days away...

I don't think I will lose a game... Needless to say I'm ready

[trkaline]

I'm getting it overnighted from gamestop.com since I have to work Friday night so I can wake up to it on my doorstep Saturday morning...and if I wake up and its not there yet...I will go back to sleep until it is.

[AJHawk50]

I can't decide whether to reserve it at my GameStop, or just wait until the next morning and go in and buy it.

[The Great Jonathan Vilma]

I prepaid for it 2 months ago. Seems excessive, but why not just do it while i was there? Haven't been back since then. I am very excited though.

[trkaline]

I can't decide whether to reserve it at my GameStop, or just wait until the next morning and go in and buy it.

Madden never sells out around my way, I preordered it one time and sat in a line at midnight for mad long...next year I just when in the day it came out no problem so preordering seems kind of pointless other than a peace of mind thing. I do realize that might not be the case everywhere.

[rockio42]

****, I didn't realize it was only a week away...last year they started releasing the full rating for all the players, anyone know if that is on its way?

[AJHawk50]

****, I didn't realize it was only a week away...last year they started releasing the full rating for all the players, anyone know if that is on its way?
Yeah it's all ready online.

You can go here for ratings, or on easports.com.

http://sports.espn.go.com/videogames/news/story?id=4361789

[Go_Eagles77]

Weird that they're releasing it on a Friday this year instead of the usual Tuesday.

[rockio42]

Yeah it's all ready online.

You can go here for ratings, or on easports.com.

http://sports.espn.go.com/videogames/news/story?id=4361789

No, I mean like the FULL array of ratings for all the players...but thanks for that link

[M.O.T.H.]

JAgOcxE8b8E

The presentation is a lot like ESPN NFL 2K5, with the on field interviews and off the field shows. The voices and such are bound to suck like the review says but, this is something Madden should have had years ago. They've had some real bad presentation problems...especially when they had those stupid rings and radio announcers. bleh.

[Matthew Jones]

Alright guys, I just got Madden NFL 10 early, as I did last year. I don't have a camera so this is the best I can do for you guys:

http://live.xbox.com/en-US/profile/profile.aspx?pp=0&GamerTag=AnonymousGamer

I put "RavenOfProphecy NFLDC" in my motto, and I've got Madden NFL 10 in my recent games. I'm playing it right now, so anyone who has questions, I'll try and answer for you guys. Let me know!

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Just a general review would be nice seeing as I'm on edge as whether to get it or not.

[Matthew Jones]

Just a general review would be nice seeing as I'm on edge as whether to get it or not.

So far I've just played practice as the Pats and then the Bills. Playing as the Pats was okay. The passing seems pretty tough this year because I had a lot of dropped passes. As the Bills, T.O. dropped the first two to him as well. I like the dropback/pocket this year, it seems pretty realistic. Running is fun as well because they have this thing where multiple people can tackle you - the most tackles I've broken was two with Roscoe Parrish on a touchdown run, and the most people it took to tackle me was five with Marshawn Lynch. So that's pretty cool. Offensive players will try and push the pile further too.

One thing I noticed is the rosters are terrible. Graham Harrell is a 64, while free agents like Trent Green, J.P. Losman, Rex Grossman, etc. are lower. Note that no teams even wanted Harrell, while at least the others have some NFL experience under their belt. The Patriots rosters are pretty awful, they basically kill any positional battles that might happen in real life with their ratings. Kaczur is an 84, but Vollmer is a 62, etc. Terrence Wheatley, who may start, is, I believe, a 64. It seems like very little attention was paid to getting the ratings right, which is a bummer.

I plan on doing some franchise mode today probably, because honestly that's really the only reason I get Madden games, and the franchise has been very disappointing in recent years. I did like the simulation statistics last year (not all RBs near 2,000 yards, etc.), but I just hope the draft and all of that stuff is a lot better, because I was very disappointed with how it came last year.

Also of minor note, the soundtrack is awesome. It's got Iron Maiden, Nas, Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, etc. Still Airbourne though. :( But overall, much better than usual. I know this isn't really an in-depth review but as I said I haven't tried a full game or franchise mode yet. If anyone wants me to check on anything, that's cool. Otherwise, I'll probably just do a franchise and let you guys know how that is.

[rockio42]

There are two or three main reason why I hated Madden '09...the running game was freaking impossible to get more than 3 ypc, all the lineman had guts hanging over this belts and it looked really really bad because most OL aren't extremely fat, and guys who were fast were better RBs than the bigger guys (Reggie Bush always did better than a Brandon Jacobs)...I would love to know if they fixed any of that

[Go_Eagles77]

All the DTs (even guys like Darnell Dockett/Brodrick Bunkley) looked like obese guards too. I found that kind of amusing lol.

[rockio42]

All the DTs (even guys like Darnell Dockett/Brodrick Bunkley) looked like obese guards too. I found that kind of amusing lol.

It annoyed me, guys like Bunk and Dockett are ripped to **** in real life and fat as hell in the game...just give the option to change how fat people are...

[Matthew Jones]

There are two or three main reason why I hated Madden '09...the running game was freaking impossible to get more than 3 ypc, all the lineman had guts hanging over this belts and it looked really really bad because most OL aren't extremely fat, and guys who were fast were better RBs than the bigger guys (Reggie Bush always did better than a Brandon Jacobs)...I would love to know if they fixed any of that

I hated that about Madden 09 too. Honestly, I've only run plays in practice, but I've had much more trouble with power guys than with speed guys. So I think that might still be a problem. There are much more gang tackles this year so being able to break tackles doesn't help as much either if you ask me. I haven't seen anything related to the offensive line.

So far I'm just really pissed at the rosters. By "lower the ratings all around", they apparently meant "lower the ratings of all the backups", because there aren't going to be many battles on the roster this year. Also, rookies from this year are highly rated compared to other young players. Kevin O'Connell, a third round pick last year, is a 47, while Curtis Painter, a sixth round pick this year, is a 62. That sort of thing.

Chad Pennington is an 85, while Chad Henne (who some think will replace Pennington in the near future) is a 67, meaning that if you play as the Dolphins, you're PROBABLY not going to be using Henne any time soon (unless backups raise in ratings really fast or something.)

Also, they rate players on reputation still. Champ Bailey is a 96 after being atrocious last year. Jason Peters is a 95 after giving up the most sacks in the league at LT. Branden Albert allowed what, 1 sack last year? He's an 84. I can't stress enough how bad these are. Honestly, I don't think I could enjoy playing franchise mode with these rosters. I haven't done this in years, but I might have to go through and change a bunch of ratings around before playing. Almost every team in the league is screwed if their QB gets injured in this game.

[trkaline]

There are two or three main reason why I hated Madden '09...the running game was freaking impossible to get more than 3 ypc, all the lineman had guts hanging over this belts and it looked really really bad because most OL aren't extremely fat, and guys who were fast were better RBs than the bigger guys (Reggie Bush always did better than a Brandon Jacobs)...I would love to know if they fixed any of that

I actually thought the running game was too easy...3000 yard rushing seasons aren't normal but I've had a couple.