MLB Draft Discussion Thread

[fischbowl]

Discuss the upcoming 2009 MLB Draft, June 9-11

[devinhester=R.O.Y 2006]

Heard that MLBTV will be carrying most of the draft live this year. Should be fun.

[fischbowl]

Heard that MLBTV will be carrying most of the draft live this year. Should be fun.

Carrying the first 111 picks primetime Tuesday night with guaranteed better coverage than what those ESPN poops carried the last two years.

[T-RICH49]

so who is the best prospect not named Strasburg?

[SuperKevin]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/2009/05/23/2009-05-23_danny_almonte_gets_old_fast_as_mlb_draft_approa ches.html

Interesting story about Danny Almonte

[HChu]

So it's on MLB Network at 6PM? That's so much better than ESPN's 2PM start time the past two years.

[fischbowl]

So it's on MLB Network at 6PM? That's so much better than ESPN's 2PM start time the past two years.

Well it's the first year that the draft is primetime. It's a shoddy attempt to make it as popular the NFL Draft.

so who is the best prospect not named Strasburg?

Signs point to prep lefty Tyler Matzek although my personal favourite pitcher after Strasburg is Arizona State RHP Mike Leake. Scouts are concerned that he's "a little undersized" but he's torn up the best baseball conference in the nation consistently the last three years

[Brodeur]

Grant Green is overrated.

And now that I've got that out of my system, this is an ugly draft for position players.

[devinhester=R.O.Y 2006]

so who is the best prospect not named Strasburg?

I would go with Dustin Ackley or Donovan Tate.

[fischbowl]

Grant Green is overrated.

And now that I've got that out of my system, this is an ugly draft for position players.

Outside of Strasburg and Ackley it's an ugly draft altogether.

[fischbowl]

I would go with Dustin Ackley or Donovan Tate.

I thought he said pitching prospect....whoops.

Dustin Ackley for sure, he was unarguably the best hitter in college baseball over the last year or two. He also has the athleticism to play either 1B or man CF damn well

[devinhester=R.O.Y 2006]

I thought he said pitching prospect....whoops.

Dustin Ackley for sure, he was unarguably the best hitter in college baseball over the last year or two. He also has the athleticism to play either 1B or man CF damn well

I totally missed the pitching part of his sentence. My bad. :(

[fischbowl]

I totally missed the pitching part of his sentence. My bad. :(

No I was the one who ****** up

[Giantsfan1080]

I'm actually pissed it's on at night. I know the coverage is going to be excellent but I don't want to miss a Mets game to watch it which I'll have to do now.

[fischbowl]

I'm actually pissed it's on at night. I know the coverage is going to be excellent but I don't want to miss a Mets game to watch it which I'll have to do now.

DVR is your friend motherlover

[Giantsfan1080]

DVR is your friend motherlover

I like to watch the action live haha. They spread it over 3 days now also. What round will they be drafting up to on Wednesday?

[Stash]

I think I'm gonna be on vacation that week, damn.

[kwilk103]

rumor is pirates might not take bpa to try and sign sato

[tjsunstein]

I'll be away that week. Sucks, kind of.

SuperKevin, read that story. My how the tables have turned.

Grant Green IS overrated.
Donovan Tate is a baller.
Mariners, enjoy #27. We'll take Raul Ibanez.

What are some later round gems? RP more specifically.

[fischbowl]

I like to watch the action live haha. They spread it over 3 days now also. What round will they be drafting up to on Wednesday?

Through Round 3 Supplemental

[Smokey Joe]

I hope the white sox go with A.J. Pollock. However, I wouldn't mind going with Tony Sanchez either. I'll be pissed if we go with Jared Mitchell with our 1st pick, but wouldn't mind him at 38 or even 61 if he falls that far.

The two pitchers (Leake and Brothers) who I wanted have just been dominating and are locks for the top 15-20 now, sadly.

One guy that I really like in round 2 is Aaron Miller. Reminds me a lot of Andre Ethier.

[Xiomera]

I heard Matt Millen signed on to be a draft analyst.

[aNYtitan]

I'm trying to see what are the chances Jacob Turner falls to the Yanks. Is it slim to none by now, cause earlier there was a good chance.

[Borat]

I'm trying to see what are the chances Jacob Turner falls to the Yanks. Is it slim to none by now, cause earlier there was a good chance.

It could still happen. Allegedly, Turner's money demands could make teams pass on him ala Rick Porcello.

[SuperKevin]

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/draft-preview/2009/268178.html

Basbeall Americas Top 100 for those who don't know much about who's in the draft

[thetedginnshow]

I hope the Cards take a pitcher every round.

[fenikz]

Diamondbacks have a ton of early picks #15&16, 2 sandwich picks, and our 2nd

I would expect a minimum of 4 pitches taken with those

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Ugh. To think we could have not only avoiding give Oliver Perez that stupid contract, but gotten picks for him makes me very angry.

[Smokey Joe]

What's the opinion on Everett Williams here? Seems more polished than the usual toolsy black high school player, but from what I've heard, he gets pull happy at times and K's a lot.

[Rob S]

How good is Strausburg btw Fisch? I mean, I saw the ESPN thing and what not and his stuff looks nasty, but does he carry a Prior like grade coming out?

[fischbowl]

How good is Strausburg btw Fisch? I mean, I saw the ESPN thing and what not and his stuff looks nasty, but does he carry a Prior like grade coming out?

He's 10x better than Prior. He's a once in a lifetime pitching prospect

[SuperKevin]

How good is Strausburg btw Fisch? I mean, I saw the ESPN thing and what not and his stuff looks nasty, but does he carry a Prior like grade coming out?

When a player can throw 100 mph through a complete game with pinpoint accuracy he's a once in a lifetime talent. I honestly believe that by the time he's all done we'll be throwing around Nolan Ryan comparisons

[devinhester=R.O.Y 2006]

I think a big question is will they throw Strausburg into the big league rotation right after he signed, or will they allow him to get some seasoning in AAA and have him become their ace and opening day starter in 2010?

[aNYtitan]

It could still happen. Allegedly, Turner's money demands could make teams pass on him ala Rick Porcello.

I'm also hearing Donovan Tate's contract demands could be astronomical and that he is falling for that reason and because of his football scholarship. What's his scouting report

[SuperKevin]

I think a big question is will they throw Strausburg into the big league rotation right after he signed, or will they allow him to get some seasoning in AAA and have him become their ace and opening day starter in 2010?

They've claimed they will protect him in the minors for this year since they have no reason to bring him up with a rotation that already contains 4 rookies. I have a feeling they'll bring him up in late August for attendence though

[devinhester=R.O.Y 2006]

I'm also hearing Donovan Tate's contract demands could be astronomical and that he is falling for that reason and because of his football scholarship. What's his scouting report

I am sure that Mike Fox and Butch Davis are hoping that he drops and doesn't sign. Could be good news for higher income teams, I think Detroit at #9 could be a possibility, maybe the Angels at either 24 or 25.

[fenikz]

dbacks have never been afraid to spend on prospects i'd take Tate at 16/17

[Hines]

rumor is pirates might not take bpa to try and sign sato

I heard that they won't shell out a lot of money on their first pick and use 4 million to sign Sato. I think it would be a great risk to take for Sato.

Edit: As for the picks, I want Aaron Crow in the second, Mychial(sp) Givens in the second if he's there and Kendal Volz.

[SuperKevin]

I heard that they won't shell out a lot of money on their first pick and use 4 million to sign Sato. I think it would be a great risk to take for Sato.

Edit: As for the picks, I want Aaron Crow in the second, Mychial(sp) Givens in the second if he's there and Kendal Volz.

Umm Aaron Crow will probably go top 10

[fenikz]

actually the dbacks have 3 sandwich picks so that's 6 picks in the top 100

[Hines]

Umm Aaron Crow will probably go top 10

I meant to say in the first. My fault.

[Giantsfan1080]

I'm with you on that Kevin. The Nationals are going to want to make tons of money off Strasburg so he'll be up by September for money purposes. I expect 4-5 minor league starts and then up he comes.

[SuperKevin]

I'm with you on that Kevin. The Nationals are going to want to make tons of money off Strasburg so he'll be up by September for money purposes. I expect 4-5 minor league starts and then up he comes.

It'll work too. I'm already waiting until he gets a jersey number and thats the Nats jersey I'm buying

[Giantsfan1080]

It'll work too. I'm already waiting until he gets a jersey number and thats the Nats jersey I'm buying

You and everyone else I bet. I hope he can handle the pressure.

[SuperKevin]

You and everyone else I bet. I hope he can handle the pressure.

Well he gave up 2 homers today against UVa I think in his first loss of the year. I think he's trying to damage his draft status :O

[SuperKevin]

Wow. Georgia 1B Rich Poythress had 3 homers today.

[Giantsfan1080]

Well he gave up 2 homers today against UVa I think in his first loss of the year. I think he's trying to damage his draft status :O

2 ER and 15 K's and he gets the loss haha. He's 13-1 now I think after tonight.

[aNYtitan]

I am sure that Mike Fox and Butch Davis are hoping that he drops and doesn't sign. Could be good news for higher income teams, I think Detroit at #9 could be a possibility, maybe the Angels at either 24 or 25.

Well I always think Yanks when I hear signability issues (that's why I have asked abotu Turner and Tate). They always go BPA, with the exception of that one year when they drafted Kennedy instead of Beato like everyone wanted, turned out to be the right move.

[devinhester=R.O.Y 2006]

Wow. Georgia 1B Rich Poythress had 3 homers today.

He is a terrific hitter, but they seem to think he will have a tough time at 1B. Looks like he could be a great DH though.

[fischbowl]

Well I always think Yanks when I hear signability issues (that's why I have asked abotu Turner and Tate). They always go BPA, with the exception of that one year when they drafted Kennedy instead of Beato like everyone wanted, turned out to be the right move.

With only the first round pick in the top 3 Rounds they'll have the money this year to pop a Matt Purke or a Jacob Turner if they fall

[aNYtitan]

With only the first round pick in the top 3 Rounds they'll have the money this year to pop a Matt Purke or a Jacob Turner if they fall

Actually, they have a pick I believe in the second round supplemental for failure to sign Scott Bittle, but don't qute me on the exact pick they have

[SuperKevin]

I can't possibly be the only one who is horribly confused by how the MLB draft works

[Giantsfan1080]

I can't possibly be the only one who is horribly confused by how the MLB draft works

What part don't you understand?

[Don Vito]

What do you guys think about David Renfroe? He is most likeyl going to sign with Ole Miss unless he gets a contract worth 3 million. The Sox and Yankees are showing a lot of interest and I would love for the Sox to pick up a guy with his ability, he could be a stud anywhere in the infield. He also has big potential as a pitcher but he wants to play everyday. He would be a huge get for Ole Miss to if he decides to play college ball.

[Smokey Joe]

If the Pirates go cheap, who do they take? Reach for Brothers or Leake?

Also, who are the draftees represented by Boras this year...

Strasburg, Tate, Turner, Goodwin, Paxton, Oliver, Ackley, Green... who else? Anyone else worth noting represented by Boras?

[Hines]

If the Pirates go cheap, who do they take? Reach for Brothers or Leake?

Also, who are the draftees represented by Boras this year...

Strasburg, Tate, Turner, Goodwin, Paxton, Oliver, Ackley, Green... who else? Anyone else worth noting represented by Boras?

I don't know if they exactly will go cheap, but I do not think we will be spending a lot of money in this draft like last years. We really want Sato and will go to a bidding war with him as far as I am concerned.

[Smokey Joe]

I don't know if they exactly will go cheap, but I do not think we will be spending a lot of money in this draft like last years. We really want Sato and will go to a bidding war with him as far as I am concerned.
Well, odds are you'll reach for someone and pay them below slot money, if you guys are serious about saving up money to sign Sano (is it Sano or Sato, I thought it was Sano).

[Hines]

Well, odds are you'll reach for someone and pay them below slot money, if you guys are serious about saving up money to sign Sano (is it Sano or Sato, I thought it was Sano).

Sato I believe. I will check on it.

If we do reach, I wouldn't mind Alex White.

[Giantsfan1080]

Carlos Beltran's nephew, Reymond Fuentes, is really rising up the draft boards lately. He went from a fringe Top 100 guy to a possible 1st rounder now.

[Borat]

I checked with Nik Lindstrom and he says it is Sano, not Sato.

[Smokey Joe]

Sato I believe. I will check on it.

If we do reach, I wouldn't mind Alex White.
Alex White isn't really a reach. He's been projected to be in the top 5 for a while now.

[D-Unit]

Rangers scooped up Smoak last year when teams were afraid of contract demands.... I wonder who will fall to 14 this year?

Nolan Ryan likes Shelby Miller, but not sure he lasts that long.

[Giantsfan1080]

Rangers scooped up Smoak last year when teams were afraid of contract demands.... I wonder who will fall to 14 this year?

Nolan Ryan likes Shelby Miller, but not sure he lasts that long.

I doubt Miller falls to you guys. He should be a top 7 pick.

[kwilk103]

Sato I believe. I will check on it.

If we do reach, I wouldn't mind Alex White.

pirates like tony sanchez (catcher, BC) bobby borchering (if, hs), wil myers (c/3b hs), kyle gibson (sp mizzou), aaron crow (sp, idependent)

http://www.baseballrumormill.com/tags/pittsburgh-pirates/


http://insidepittsburghsports.com/story/mlb-draft-latest-pirates-draft-buzz/11665/

[D-Unit]

I doubt Miller falls to you guys. He should be a top 7 pick.
Yeah. I'd probably prefer a college pitcher anyways.

[Smokey Joe]

pirates like tony sanchez (catcher, BC) bobby borchering (if, hs), wil myers (c/3b hs), kyle gibson (sp mizzou), aaron crow (sp, idependent)

http://www.baseballrumormill.com/tags/pittsburgh-pirates/


http://insidepittsburghsports.com/story/mlb-draft-latest-pirates-draft-buzz/11665/
Sanchez, Borchering, and Myers would be reaches, but cheap options. Crow would be the most expensive option. Gibson would go a bit higher than expected, but wouldn't be a big shocker to go no. 4. Plus, they could probably sign him at slot money or maybe even slightly below.

[Smokey Joe]

Alex White isn't really a reach. He's been projected to be in the top 5 for a while now.
Actually, I just read that White has been falling a bit now, and might wind up going in the 10-15 range.

[Charm City Byrdgang]

Dustin Ackley would be a dream come true to the O's but it looks more and more like an impossibility. I've been a fan of Grant Green but I am a fan of him as a SS and it looks more and more like he will be playing 3B, I wouldn't hate the idea of selecting him but I'd rather go a different direction. Donovan Tate is this years Jason Heyward, I think he will be a stud but we are jammed at OF now, add that with the fact that he will probably be a tough sign and is at least 3-4 years away from ever making an impact, I'll pass.

I really see us taking another pitching prospect to add to the group of Tillman/Matusz/Arrieta/Erbe/Patton etc because face it pitching prospects are the biggest boom or bust prospects, some are going to flop, some are going to overachieve, some will underachieve, and some will develop exactly how they were "supposed" to. So the more Pitching prospects we can get our hands on, the better chances of producing Major League pitchers. With this said, Aaron Crow would be a great pick for us, he probably won't need the same amount of time in the minors that someone like Matzek would need. He would probably be up in the majors the same time as Brian Matusz would, it would be nice to have them as our Righty/Lefty combo. If not Crow, I'd really rather go for a college arm than a HS arm.

[Giantsfan1080]

CCB you jts said your crowded in the OF now but Tate probably is at least 3-4 years away. A lot of things are going to happen between now and then so I wouldn't let that be one of the reasons you pass. If a team doesn't take the BPA in the MLB draft then something is wrong. You never ever draft for need.

[Charm City Byrdgang]

CCB you jts said your crowded in the OF now but Tate probably is at least 3-4 years away. A lot of things are going to happen between now and then so I wouldn't let that be one of the reasons you pass. If a team doesn't take the BPA in the MLB draft then something is wrong. You never ever draft for need.

I understand you never draft for need in baseball, but our crowded OF is just a small part of the reason I'd rather skip on taking Tate. I feel that with the quality of pitching that will be available at our pick, it would be smarter for us to go that route than take Tate who is going to be a tough sign, and is extremely raw. I love his physical tools, and I love his potential, but their is also a pretty low floor that comes along with that high ceiling.

[kwilk103]

read tate is likely gonna fall to the bottom 1/3 of round 1 due to his signability (wants like $6 mil)

[Giantsfan1080]

I understand you never draft for need in baseball, but our crowded OF is just a small part of the reason I'd rather skip on taking Tate. I feel that with the quality of pitching that will be available at our pick, it would be smarter for us to go that route than take Tate who is going to be a tough sign, and is extremely raw. I love his physical tools, and I love his potential, but their is also a pretty low floor that comes along with that high ceiling.

Yeah that's perfectly fine. I'm actually not a fan of Tate but I was just trying to make the point that you go BPA no matter how your team looks now.

[Charm City Byrdgang]

Yeah that's perfectly fine. I'm actually not a fan of Tate but I was just trying to make the point that you go BPA no matter how your team looks now.

I agree, there's really only two choices, BPA position player or BPA pitcher. I'd rather go BPA pitcher (if Ackley goes 2-4)

[Smokey Joe]

CCB, pitching is the way to go for you guys right now. You got a great young core on offense with Markakis, Jones, Wieters, and Reimold (I really like Reimold), and two very good vets in Roberts and Scott who will likely still be around for the 3-5 years.

However, on the big league roster, you got no pitching. Guthrie, is a good no. 4 or 5, a no. 3 at best, but in no way is an ace. Never been impressed by Guthrie. Bergesen looks decent, as does Hernandez. Looks like Liz is being groomed for the pen now, and that's a good move.

You got two really top of the line pitching prospects in Tillman and Matusz and couple other solid guys in Arrieta, Erbe, and Patton, but you can never have too much. Ideally for you guys, Crow will be there at 5. I liked him better than Matusz, and having him and Crow would be great for you guys. Imagine having a future rotation of Tillman, Matusz, and Crow at the top in 3 years. That's could be deadly.

After that, you gotta stock up on CI and MI though.

[Chucky]

Any insights on the Jays will be taking this year. Seems to me that in this draft pitching is the way to go,even though the Jays have some solid arms in their system.

[Smokey Joe]

read tate is likely gonna fall to the bottom 1/3 of round 1 due to his signability (wants like $6 mil)
Could be. I wouldn't be surprised if he winds up going to UNC. With 3 years in college ball, he could be a no. 1 overall pick if he refines his game.

However, it'll be interesting to see how football works out for him.

[Borat]

I'm not feeling the Tate/Heyward comparisons. Heyward had much more power potential coming out of HS than Tate currently has. The best comp I've seen for Tate is to Diamondback OF Chris Young.

[Hines]

Sanchez, Borchering, and Myers would be reaches, but cheap options. Crow would be the most expensive option. Gibson would go a bit higher than expected, but wouldn't be a big shocker to go no. 4. Plus, they could probably sign him at slot money or maybe even slightly below.

I want a pitcher at 4 unless somehow Ackley falls. Outside of Lincoln and Bryan Morris, the Buccos don't have many starting pitching prospects that could be in the rotation.

[Giantsfan1080]

I'm not feeling the Tate/Heyward comparisons. Heyward had much more power potential coming out of HS than Tate currently has. The best comp I've seen for Tate is to Diamondback OF Chris Young.

Tate reminds me of Carl Crawford but with a little more pop.

[Smokey Joe]

I like the Jared Mitchell - Carl Crawford comparisons.

[kwilk103]

I want a pitcher at 4 unless somehow Ackley falls. Outside of Lincoln and Bryan Morris, the Buccos don't have many starting pitching prospects that could be in the rotation.

daniel moskos!!!!!!!!!!

[Hines]

daniel moskos!!!!!!!!!!

I hate him. Not that he isn't good, well, he really isn't. I am just pissed that the Pirates are so ******* cheap and passed up (gulp) Matt Weiters.

[JHG722]

http://temple.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=946791

Really big deal for us. We're not exactly a baseball school LOL. Kid is something else.

[Damix]

BA's 2nd mock had us taking Slade Heathcott. Apparantly in an interview he says the Yankees have been in contact with him. I wouldn't hate the pick.

[Smokey Joe]

BA's 2nd mock had us taking Slade Heathcott. Apparantly in an interview he says the Yankees have been in contact with him. I wouldn't hate the pick.
I've heard that he and the Yankees have talked a ton. He's a real solid ball player to. Could be a good prospect at either pitcher or in CF.

[Smokey Joe]

http://temple.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=946791

Really big deal for us. We're not exactly a baseball school LOL. Kid is something else.
Now for baseball, is the A-10 in division 1 and compete in the College World Series?

[Hines]

BA's 2nd mock had us taking Slade Heathcott. Apparantly in an interview he says the Yankees have been in contact with him. I wouldn't hate the pick.

Who they have the Pirates taking?

[M.O.T.H.]

It's time for Atlanta to finally find a good 3B prospect.

[Hines]

It's time for Atlanta to finally find a good 3B prospect.

We'll trade you Neil Walker.

[JHG722]

Now for baseball, is the A-10 in division 1 and compete in the College World Series?

Yeah, it's still D-I. Xavier is pretty good and URI got snubbed this year, but we cant compete like we can in basketball. The prep kids in PA are pretty good, but they never play here, which is why we're nothing special. So a kid from here getting drafted is something that doesnt happen too often.

[aNYtitan]

Could be. I wouldn't be surprised if he winds up going to UNC. With 3 years in college ball, he could be a no. 1 overall pick if he refines his game.

However, it'll be interesting to see how football works out for him.

If the Yanks tab him with their first round pick, after the Gerrit Cole fiasco, there is no way he makes it to campus. But idk if he makes it to us with the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim a couple picks ahead of us

[Brodeur]

We'll trade you Neil Walker.

He said a good prospect.

[M.O.T.H.]

He said a good prospect.

hahaha. I was going to say that but, Walker has been better. I want a developmental type anyway...it's not like Chipper is ready to retire yet. He cant stay healthy but, when he is, he's still one of the best hitters in the game.

[jkpigskin]

im not really familiar with the MLB draft, but how is the draft order compiled?

[aNYtitan]

im not really familiar with the MLB draft, but how is the draft order compiled?

Record wise from worst record to best from the previous season. Free agents are designated a certain type (Type A or B) and compensation is awarded based on what type they are. I believe this season is the first season to have compensation picks for failure to sign first or second round picks from the previous draft, so lets use the Nationals as an example. They drafted Aaron Crow last year with the 9th pick, but failed to sign him. For that, they are awarded the pick after this years 9th pick, called 9a. or in better terms, the 10th pick.

Edit: Free agents are designated Type A or B FA's if they reject arbitration from their previous team or they sign with a new team before December 2nd. Signing a type A gives you that player's original team the other team's first round pick, plus a supplemental pick in the round between the first and second round. However, they only receive the first round pick from the team if that pick is between the 16th-30th pick. If its before that, they receive said team's second round pick and a supplemental. For a type B FA signing, the original team only recieves a supplemental round pick.

[Donno]

What is Strasburg's fastball range and also what are his best pitches?

[T-RICH49]

read tate is likely gonna fall to the bottom 1/3 of round 1 due to his signability (wants like $6 mil)

better not fall past KC

[SuperKevin]

What is Strasburg's fastball range and also what are his best pitches?

Strasburg has hit as high as 102 mph this year with pinpoint accuracy.

[Giantsfan1080]

He also has a 82 MPH slurvy curve that is the best in the draft.

[JHG722]

Is there any site that does like a 15 round mock or something? haha

[aNYtitan]

Is there any site that does like a 15 round mock or something? haha

LOL, if your that in depth, you should be a scout for a team to know all those players and needs. Part of me wants to see a mock first year player draft on this board, but IDK if there would be enough interest

[Smokey Joe]

hahaha. I was going to say that but, Walker has been better. I want a developmental type anyway...it's not like Chipper is ready to retire yet. He cant stay healthy but, when he is, he's still one of the best hitters in the game.
Screw Zack Wheeler. Go with the future Chipper Jones, Bobby Borchering!

[Giantsfan1080]

LOL, if your that in depth, you should be a scout for a team to know all those players and needs. Part of me wants to see a mock first year player draft on this board, but IDK if there would be enough interest

I was thinking about that earlier. Could be fun.

[Smokey Joe]

Record wise from worst record to best from the previous season. Free agents are designated a certain type (Type A or B) and compensation is awarded based on what type they are. I believe this season is the first season to have compensation picks for failure to sign first or second round picks from the previous draft, so lets use the Nationals as an example. They drafted Aaron Crow last year with the 9th pick, but failed to sign him. For that, they are awarded the pick after this years 9th pick, called 9a. or in better terms, the 10th pick.

Edit: Free agents are designated Type A or B FA's if they reject arbitration from their previous team or they sign with a new team before December 2nd. Signing a type A gives you that player's original team the other team's first round pick, plus a supplemental pick in the round between the first and second round. However, they only receive the first round pick from the team if that pick is between the 16th-30th pick. If its before that, they receive said team's second round pick and a supplemental. For a type B FA signing, the original team only recieves a supplemental round pick.
How are compensation round B picks assigned?

EDIT: Nevermind, I found it. It's the compensation you get if you fail to sign a 3rd round pick.

[aNYtitan]

I was thinking about that earlier. Could be fun.

I'm thinking the same thing, but 30 different people will be tough to run up with that baseball draft knowledge. Not to mention, I wouldn't mind running it, but I do want to take control of GM duties for the Yankees. Also, another issue is I wonder how long it would last before people eventually drop out, considering the limited knowledge most baseball fans have about the draft.

The other big thing is that most of the time, the draft comes down to signability and slot picks with some small market teams. Because, in all honesty, Donovan Tate is a top 10, maybe even a top 5 pick. But because of his two-sport status, and the advising of Scott Boras, only deep pocket teams will draft him. In a fantasy draft, these rules get thrown out the window. Its the only draft in which you can't always go BPA, cause of the possibility of failing to sign the pick

[Giantsfan1080]

I'm thinking the same thing, but 30 different people will be tough to run up with that baseball draft knowledge. Not to mention, I wouldn't mind running it, but I do want to take control of GM duties for the Yankees. Also, another issue is I wonder how long it would last before people eventually drop out, considering the limited knowledge most baseball fans have about the draft.

The other big thing is that most of the time, the draft comes down to signability and slot picks with some small market teams. Because, in all honesty, Donovan Tate is a top 10, maybe even a top 5 pick. But because of his two-sport status, and the advising of Scott Boras, only deep pocket teams will draft him. In a fantasy draft, these rules get thrown out the window. Its the only draft in which you can't always go BPA, cause of the possibility of failing to sign the pick

Yeah there would only be 10 of us maybe. Also, like you said everyone would just go BPA because we don't really have to worry about signability issues. Last we'd have to finish in 2 days which would probably never happen.

[Giantsfan1080]

How are compensation round B picks assigned?

EDIT: Nevermind, I found it. It's the compensation you get if you fail to sign a 3rd round pick.

It's also for teams that don't get a Comp A because a team like the Yankees signed more than one Type A free agent.

[jayceheathman]

I noticed that Matt Purke goes to my old high school. Bad thing about him is he is letting his dad do the negotiations because he still hasnt made up his mind on whether or not he wants to go to TCU or enter the draft. His dad is asking for a few million just to sign and teams are starting to pass on him.

[M.O.T.H.]

Screw Zack Wheeler. Go with the future Chipper Jones, Bobby Borchering!

haha. Who knows if he can actually stay there, though? All I keep hearing is Wheeler or Tate, if he fell for some reason. I'd have no problem with taking one of those guys at pick 7. :D But I would really like to see a 3B fairly early this year.

We got my guys last year in Brett DeVall and Zeke Spruill. I would love to add a power arm on top of those two we added last draft. Wheeler fits the bill.

The Braves arent in a bad spot...Miller, Matzek, Turner, Wheeler. We'll get one of them, if we go pitcher. Again though, give me the power arm. Wheeler or Miller.

[M.O.T.H.]

I wonder where Chris Dominguez finally lands. I used to have a man crush on him. haha.

[Smokey Joe]

It's also for teams that don't get a Comp A because a team like the Yankees signed more than one Type A free agent.
I'm pretty sure you still get a supplemental round A pick even if another team still signed two type A free agents. For instance:

The Yankees signed both C.C. and Tex, both type A FA's. Tex (for some reason) was ranked higher on the Elias rankings than Sabathia, so the Angels got the Yankees 1st rounder (because they picked in the 2nd half) and supplemental round A draft pick. The Brewers get the Yankees 2nd round pick, as well as a supplemental round A draft pick.

[Giantsfan1080]

I'm pretty sure you still get a supplemental round A pick even if another team still signed two type A free agents. For instance:

The Yankees signed both C.C. and Tex, both type A FA's. Tex (for some reason) was ranked higher on the Elias rankings than Sabathia, so the Angels got the Yankees 1st rounder (because they picked in the 2nd half) and supplemental round A draft pick. The Brewers get the Yankees 2nd round pick, as well as a supplemental round A draft pick.


Your right my bad. I was looking at the 2nd and 3rd rounds, not the supplemental.

[PACKmanN]

thoughts on Mike Trout, please :)

[fischbowl]

thoughts on Mike Trout, please :)

Could quite possibly be the best athlete in the draft. Really climbing the boards fast

[Hines]

Fisch, gonna do a mock?

[fischbowl]

Fisch, gonna do a mock?

Soon, Hines

[holt_bruce81]

Anyone know anything about Wagner Mateo the CF. I heard the Cardinals are set to offer him 4 million. I have no idea how the draft and International players work.

I'm hoping the Cards draft Matt Purke in the 1st, but they're cheap so probably won't.

[Smokey Joe]

thoughts on Mike Trout, please :)
The next Aaron Rowand.

[devinhester=R.O.Y 2006]

Ok here are a few guys....

First is Ian Krol, LHP, Nequa Valley HS (IL). Krol was originally rated as the 26th best prospect in the country by BA, but has since dropped to 184th after being suspended for his senior season after a second violation of the schools athletic code of conduct. I think he will wind up being a big steal for whomever takes a chance on him. He is committed to Arizona though, so he could go that route.

Another is Tanner Bushue, RHP, South Central HS (IL). Bushue is from a very small high school and may not have faced the best talent during his high school career, but I have read that he is rocketing up draft boards. Bushue has good size and room to develop at 6'4 and 180 lbs. Originally he was pegged as a top 10 round talent, but now there is talk that he is in the top 3 rounds. Bushue is committed to John A. Logan Junior College, but will more than likely go pro when selected.

[fischbowl]

Ok here are a few guys....

First is Ian Krol, LHP, Nequa Valley HS (IL). Krol was originally rated as the 26th best prospect in the country by BA, but has since dropped to 184th after being suspended for his senior season after a second violation of the schools athletic code of conduct. I think he will wind up being a big steal for whomever takes a chance on him. He is committed to Arizona though, so he could go that route.

Another is Tanner Bushue, RHP, South Central HS (IL). Bushue is from a very small high school and may not have faced the best talent during his high school career, but I have read that he is rocketing up draft boards. Bushue has good size and room to develop at 6'4 and 180 lbs. Originally he was pegged as a top 10 round talent, but now there is talk that he is in the top 3 rounds. Bushue is committed to John A. Logan Junior College, but will more than likely go pro when selected.

Krol is geat looking, but yeah, his discipline and makeup is an issue for anyone. I'd take bets that he winds up a Wildcat

[devinhester=R.O.Y 2006]

Has D.J. LeMahieu rebounded enough from his slow start to be considered a late first round or sandwich round pick? Or will he slip and wind up going back to LSU for his junior year?

[Giantsfan1080]

Has D.J. LeMahieu rebounded enough from his slow start to be considered a late first round or sandwich round pick? Or will he slip and wind up going back to LSU for his junior year?

Keith Law doesn't even have him in his top 100 so it doesn't look he'll be taken in the first couple of rounds unless someone reaches for him.

[Smokey Joe]

Krol is geat looking, but yeah, his discipline and makeup is an issue for anyone. I'd take bets that he winds up a Wildcat
He got caught drinking/being around alcohol. Over 90% of the students in my high school drank, and I think most coachs and scouts know it. I don't think it will hurt him that much.

If some team drafts him in the 2nd or 3rd, and gives him a good signing bonus, he might sign. From what I've heard, he loves playing baseball and not playing this year really devestated him. Perhaps he wants to get back out on the field ASAP.

He's a very polished HS lefty.

[themaninblack]

Can anyone fill me in on who the Reds might be lookin at in the 8 slot? I don't follow the MLB draft as much as I'd like.

[djp]

Mock Fisch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[devinhester=R.O.Y 2006]

Can anyone fill me in on who the Reds might be lookin at in the 8 slot? I don't follow the MLB draft as much as I'd like.

BA said they need pitching. Look for them to go after Aaron Crow, Tanner Scheppers, or Shelby Miller.

[Damix]

Keith Law was talking about Scheppers dropping out of round 1, I'd grab him at 29 if he was there.

[Hines]

Keith Law was talking about Scheppers dropping out of round 1, I'd grab him at 29 if he was there.

How would he drop out? I have seen him in the top 10 and even the top 5? Sucks that the Pirates didn't sign him last year.

[Smokey Joe]

I'm trying to think of a good comparison for both Chad Jenkins and Kyle Heckathorn... any good comparisons you guys can think of?

I think I got a good one for Jenkins... A pre-injury Bartolo Colon. Except, I think Jenkins slider and changeup are better and his 2-seam fastball is comparable. However, in his prime, Colon could pump his 4-seamer up there pretty good, probably better than Jenkins could.

[fischbowl]

Keith Law was talking about Scheppers dropping out of round 1, I'd grab him at 29 if he was there.

Keith Law is an embarassment to the MLB Draft. It's a damned shame that he's the face analyst of the event

[Giantsfan1080]

Keith Law is an embarassment to the MLB Draft. It's a damned shame that he's the face analyst of the event

Isn't Malo doing the coverage for the MLB Network this year? I hope they have some guys from BA as well like ESPN did, even though they didn't use Callis enough.

[fischbowl]

Isn't Malo doing the coverage for the MLB Network this year? I hope they have some guys from BA as well like ESPN did, even though they didn't use Callis enough.

Jon Mayo and MLB Scouting Bureau Director Steve Marcos are covering the draft this year. MLBAMer Vinny Micucci will be added to the mix after the 1st Round

[Jensen]

Anybody have insight as to who/where Arizona is looking towards at #16 and #17?

[Hines]

Is the draft June 8th? If so, what time is it? MLBN?

[Hines]

Anybody have insight as to who/where Arizona is looking towards at #16 and #17?

I wouldn't be surprised if they chose Mike Leake from ASU if he fell there.

[Giantsfan1080]

Jon Mayo and MLB Scouting Bureau Director Steve Marcos are covering the draft this year. MLBAMer Vinny Micucci will be added to the mix after the 1st Round

Yeah I meant Mayo, the Mets have a player named Malo so I always inadvertantly type that.

[fischbowl]

Yeah I meant Mayo, the Mets have a player named Malo so I always inadvertantly type that.

Jon Malo the Canadian INF, well aware of his prowess.

Hines, I expect Leake to be gone by 16. He's my favourite pitcher in the draft and I'm considering him as top 10 talent. Size didn't hinder Tim Lincecum now did it?

Jensen, I expect the Diamondbacks to pick cheaper players with their 5 picks in the first and supp rounds. Maybe OF Tim Wheeler of Sacramento State

[T-RICH49]

fisch who do you see KC taking at 12?I've heard this draft is loaded with HS pitchers.do they go there?

[PACKmanN]

Could quite possibly be the best athlete in the draft. Really climbing the boards fast

do you see him avavible when the Jays pick, and if so, would it be a solid pick? other than Snider, we really don't have any good OF prospects in our farm. Plus, JP really loves guys with power.

[Borat]

Yeah, so I'm pretty sold on Aaron Crow as my favorite non-Strasburg pick. I'll have a Giant hard-on if he's there at No. 6.

Check out his highlight video (http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/draft/y2009/reports.jsp?content=crow)

He's got some just plain silly movement on his fastball and his slider drops off the table. I can't stop watching his highlights. Please, please, please be there at No. 6.

[villagewarrior]

fisch who do you see KC taking at 12?I've heard this draft is loaded with HS pitchers.do they go there?

That's not really been Dayton Moore's M.O. since he has been in Kansas City. Seems to like to take a bat and then load up on high school pitching in the next several rounds.

[derza222]

Fish, what's your take on Mier, the HS shortstop from Cali? He intrigues me because he's got the glove to stay at short long term, but will the bat ever catch up? And with Grant Green I believe, the SS from USC, there are obviously questions about his ability to stay at short long term. Where do you think he's best off ending up?

[T-RICH49]

That's not really been Dayton Moore's M.O. since he has been in Kansas City. Seems to like to take a bat and then load up on high school pitching in the next several rounds.

true but would he reach for a bat rasther then take the best player there even if it was a HS pitcher

[HChu]

Can anyone fill me in on Chad Jenkins? I've heard his name a lot being picked 10th. They say he's the cheap option there, so I'm interested in his actual skill level.

EDIT: Also now in Mayo's new projection, he says Drew Storen, a closer from Stanford. I'd like to know more about him, since Mayo says he can fill in immediately in the bullpen (and has starter potential?). Any knowledge would be appreciated.

[fischbowl]

do you see him avavible when the Jays pick, and if so, would it be a solid pick? other than Snider, we really don't have any good OF prospects in our farm. Plus, JP really loves guys with power.

It would be a great pick if he falls, I think now though, he'll be picked in the 10-15 rangish.

Fish, what's your take on Mier, the HS shortstop from Cali? He intrigues me because he's got the glove to stay at short long term, but will the bat ever catch up? And with Grant Green I believe, the SS from USC, there are obviously questions about his ability to stay at short long term. Where do you think he's best off ending up?

I really like Mier, great toolsy project of an infielder. He definitely has a shortstop pedigree and honestly, I see a little bit of JJ Hardy in him. He'd be a fantastic late 1st round choice.

My money is that Green stays at short. He's better defensively than everyone thinks, and the position is evolving into being more offensively based

[VoteLynnSwan]

anyone have any information on who the Cubs may be interested in?

It really sucks that the draft order is determined solely by record, and not by performance in the playoffs.

[Smokey Joe]

Can anyone fill me in on Chad Jenkins? I've heard his name a lot being picked 10th. They say he's the cheap option there, so I'm interested in his actual skill level.

EDIT: Also now in Mayo's new projection, he says Drew Storen, a closer from Stanford. I'd like to know more about him, since Mayo says he can fill in immediately in the bullpen (and has starter potential?). Any knowledge would be appreciated.
I love Chad Jenkins. Big work horse who keeps the ball on the ground and can pile up some K's. Heckathorn has the better arm, but Jenkins is easily the better pitcher.

Storen ain't bad either. Mid 90's fastball (kinda straight I think) with a plus slider and a change. But no way is it a good idea to take any reliever that early in the draft.

[T-RICH49]

seriously who do you see KC taking?I've seen our projected pick all over the map from Green to Sanchez

[Borat]

Borat's 2009 Mock MLB Draft

1 – Washington: Stephen Strasburg
2 – Seattle: Dustin Ackley
3 – San Diego: Tyler Matzek
4 – Pittsburgh: Aaron Crow
5 – Baltimore: Mike Minor
6 – San Francisco: Zack Wheeler
7 – Atlanta: Tanner Scheppers
8 – Cincinnati: Donavan Tate
9 – Detroit: Jacob Turner
10 – Washington: Mike Leake
11 – Colorado: Alex White
12 – Kansas City: Grant Green
13 – Oakland: Mike Trout
14 – Texas: Matthew Purke
15 – Cleveland: Shelby Miller
16 – Arizona: Bobby Borchering
17 – Arizona: Kyle Gibson
18 – Florida: Tim Wheeler
19 – St. Louis: Drew Storen
20 – Toronto: Tony Sanchez
21 – Houston: AJ Pollock
22 – Minnesota: Rex Brothers
23 – Chicago (AL): Garret Gould
24 – Los Angeles (AL): Tyler Skaggs
25 – Los Angeles (AL): Rich Poythress
26 – Milwaukee: Wil Myers
27 – Seattle: Chad Jenkins
28 – Boston: Max Stassi
29 – New York (AL): Eric Arnett
30 – Tampa Bay: Jared Mitchell
31 – Chicago (NL): Matt Hobgood
32 – Colorado: Matt Davidson

Let me just say that this draft is freaking impossible to predict outside of Strasburg. I don't even feel secure with Ackley at No. 2.

[M.O.T.H.]

I doubt they'd take Scheppers. Even though they covet pitching (Wheeler), they have also been linked to Tate.

I think they'd go Shelby Miller before him and maybe even Turner, even though he's not a power arm.

Plus, the Braves do love their high school boys. That being said, they seem to like White as well. They may just take the best arm available mentality and that greatly depends on their board so maybe they would go with a college product like White or Scheppers but, I doubt they go w/ a college kid.

Last year was a lot easier to predict for Atlanta with Devall being all too perfect for us and Spruill being a local product.

[kwilk103]

BREAKING NEWS:

Missouri righthander Kyle Gibson, the No. 4 prospect on BA’s Top 200 Draft Prospects list, has a stress fracture in his right forearm and will be shut down for six weeks. This obviously will affect him in Tuesday’s draft, when he was projected to go in the top half of the first round.

Gibson last pitched on May 30 against Monmouth in the NCAA regionals. Though he pitched eight shutout innings for the victory, his fastball sat at 83-86 mph. After the game he spoke of having forearm tightness, which often is a precursor to torn elbow ligaments and Tommy John surgery.

The recovery time for the stress fracture should be much quicker than it would have been for reconstructive elbow surgery. Gibson should be able to throw for the team that drafts him before the Aug. 15 signing deadline.


http://insidepittsburghsports.com/story/mlb-draft-buzz-pirates-leaning-towards-aaron-crow-if-they-get-a-sense-he-will-sign-for-425-45-mm/12177/

pirates plan to take crow if they feel they can sign him

[BuckNaked]

Anybody got any info pertaining to where Steve Matz could go?

[Borat]

I doubt they'd take Scheppers. Even though they covet pitching (Wheeler), they have also been linked to Tate.

I think they'd go Shelby Miller before him and maybe even Turner, even though he's not a power arm.

Plus, the Braves do love their high school boys. That being said, they seem to like White as well. They may just take the best arm available mentality and that greatly depends on their board so maybe they would go with a college product like White or Scheppers but, I doubt they go w/ a college kid.

Last year was a lot easier to predict for Atlanta with Devall being all too perfect for us and Spruill being a local product.

Yeah, once I had Wheeler off the board, I had a hard time deciding what to do with Atlanta's pick. Like I said, this draft is freaking impossible to mock. I gave Scheppers to the Braves because I thought he'd be MLB ready close to the same time as Freeman/Heyward. I stayed away from Purke, Tate and Miller due to signability issues.

And did you see Devall's outing last night? 7.0 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 5 K

[Hines]

I hope Kyle Gibson has a Tanner Scheppers type of fall and the Pirates draft him with one of our second round picks. Very unlikely, but I never though Scheppers would fall either. Hopefully if Gibson does fall, we can sign him.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Rembisz = Sexisz


Also, I want one of the toolbox catchers at 30, don't care which.

[fischbowl]

Rembisz = Sexisz


Also, I want one of the toolbox catchers at 30, don't care which.

Wil Myers is my favourite, never seen athleticism like that on a catcher

and Rembisz = Sexisz Cardinal

[M.O.T.H.]

Yeah, once I had Wheeler off the board, I had a hard time deciding what to do with Atlanta's pick. Like I said, this draft is freaking impossible to mock. I gave Scheppers to the Braves because I thought he'd be MLB ready close to the same time as Freeman/Heyward. I stayed away from Purke, Tate and Miller due to signability issues.

And did you see Devall's outing last night? 7.0 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 5 K

Yeah I was tracking that one...he had a no hitter in the 6th. He's also only given up like 2 earned over his last 4 starts, I think.

Devall and Spruill certainly show great promise. Spruill doesnt walk anyone and has shown fantastic control. Excellent for a high schooler. He's cooled off quite a bit since the beginning of the year, though.

[Smokey Joe]

Borat's 2009 Mock MLB Draft
23 – Chicago (AL): Garret Gould

Let me just say that this draft is freaking impossible to predict outside of Strasburg. I don't even feel secure with Ackley at No. 2.
Not a chance the White Sox go with a high school pitcher.

In fact, the White Sox usually don't draft high school players altogether. Since 2000, the White Sox have only taken one player in the 1st round who wasn't out of college, and that was a local stud named Kris Honel, who unfortunately had arm injuries.

In the past 2 years, since we've made changes to our drafting department, we've only drafted 2 pitchers out of high school in the first 10 rounds. Nevin Griffith who was a 1st round talent in either supp round A or the 2nd round, and Upchurch in the 10th round. In fact, Upchurch was the only HS player we took in the first 10 rounds last year.

The only HS player I see us drafting in the first is Trout, if he falls there. Maybe also Fuentes, but I don't think we go with him at 23.

If that is the scenario you have in your Mock, we'll likely go with either Chad Jenkins or Kyle Heckathorn.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Wil Myers is my favourite, never seen athleticism like that on a catcher

and Rembisz = Sexisz Cardinal

Tommy Joseph hitting 450 footers would be cool.

Rembisz is a card over yoda's dead body.

[thetedginnshow]

Wil Myers is my favourite, never seen athleticism like that on a catcher

and Rembisz = Sexisz Cardinal

Really? Have they been linked to him? Anyone know where the Cards may be going in the first? If you don't say a pitcher we will have a problem.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Really? Have they been linked to him? Anyone know where the Cards may be going in the first? If you don't say a pitcher we will have a problem.

If Rembisz is a cardinal I will nuke fisch.

[Smokey Joe]

http://insidepittsburghsports.com/story/mlb-draft-buzz-pirates-leaning-towards-aaron-crow-if-they-get-a-sense-he-will-sign-for-425-45-mm/12177/

pirates plan to take crow if they feel they can sign him
I doubt it and I see them going with Leake so they know they can get him at or below slot.

I really think Pittsburgh is a joke of an organization.

[Hines]

I doubt it and I see them going with Leake so they know they can get him at or below slot.

I really think Pittsburgh is a joke of an organization.

Agreed about the joke.

I hope the Pirates take either Crow, White, or Leake. I want a college arm instead of a high school arm because I feel a college arm can come up sooner and will get into advanced ball moreso a high school kid.

[Smokey Joe]

I doubt they'd take Scheppers. Even though they covet pitching (Wheeler), they have also been linked to Tate.

I think they'd go Shelby Miller before him and maybe even Turner, even though he's not a power arm.

Plus, the Braves do love their high school boys. That being said, they seem to like White as well. They may just take the best arm available mentality and that greatly depends on their board so maybe they would go with a college product like White or Scheppers but, I doubt they go w/ a college kid.

Last year was a lot easier to predict for Atlanta with Devall being all too perfect for us and Spruill being a local product.
If Wheeler is gone and Tate is still on the board, I bet Tate is the pick. Local kid out of HS, fits what the Braves like to do.

[holt_bruce81]

I wouldn't mind at all if the Cardinals went ahead and took Tyler Skaggs. Seems like he has the potential to be a pretty good Lefty.

If Kyle Gibson slipped all the way to 19, that obviously would be a dream being a Missouri fan.

[M.O.T.H.]

If Wheeler is gone and Tate is still on the board, I bet Tate is the pick. Local kid out of HS, fits what the Braves like to do.

Yup, it would make a lot of sense.

[Smokey Joe]

Imagine if Crow falls to Baltimore. Think about how scary that team would be in 3-5 years... You would have Crow, Matusz, Tillman, and Arrieta as the core of the rotation and a core of Wieters, Jones, Markakis, and Reimold on offense, with Scott and Roberts likely still being around.

[Borat]

I wouldn't mind at all if the Cardinals went ahead and took Tyler Skaggs. Seems like he has the potential to be a pretty good Lefty.

If Kyle Gibson slipped all the way to 19, that obviously would be a dream being a Missouri fan.

He could definitely fall to 19.

Yup, it would make a lot of sense.

It does make sense except I don't think the Braves will pay the price to take Tate.

[Borat]

Smokey Joe, you sound like you really like Crow. He's number two on my Giants big board.

[Smokey Joe]

Smokey Joe, you sound like you really like Crow. He's number two on my Giants big board.
I'm a big fan of Crow, and if we went pitcher last year, he was the guy I wanted (I'm not too upset with Beckham though :) ). His fastball-slider combo is just sick. His fastball could be a dominant pitch with all the sink and tailing action (to the arm side) it has on it, plus he can get it up there in the mid 90's. And his slider is just nasty. Plus, from what I've heard, his change is much improved.

[M.O.T.H.]

It does make sense except I don't think the Braves will pay the price to take Tate.

I honestly dont think they'd be scared off. They're used to dealing with Boras and despite some teams being scared off, I have heard their interest remains strong in Tate. This all of course if Wheeler isnt there because he is there man, if he is.

They may be inclined to go pitcher anyway, though. But, I'd lean toward Tate being the pick if Wheeler is gone and he is there.

[Smokey Joe]

don't rule out Borchering if Wheeler isn't there. Borchering has been really flying up draft boards lately, and scouts have been impressed with how mature his bat is. Teams are drooling over his 40 homer potential from both sides of the plate.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Oh, how I hate you Oliver Perez. You suck, and we could have gotten A compensation for you. Ugh. We don't pick until 72 now. My money is on a college starting pitcher with solid stuff and a 3/4 delivery. Should be easily singable and projects best as a back end of the rotation guy.

[T-RICH49]

don't rule out Borchering if Wheeler isn't there. Borchering has been really flying up draft boards lately, and scouts have been impressed with how mature his bat is. Teams are drooling over his 40 homer potential from both sides of the plate.

the more I read on him the more I hope Dayton takes him

[Hines]

don't rule out Borchering if Wheeler isn't there. Borchering has been really flying up draft boards lately, and scouts have been impressed with how mature his bat is. Teams are drooling over his 40 homer potential from both sides of the plate.

I wouldn't doubt it if the Pirates drafted him at 4. Question is where he would play with the Pirates when he comes up. LF or RF would be most ideal since it looks more and more that Andy LaRoche is improving and Alvarez will play first for us.

[fischbowl]

Oh, how I hate you Oliver Perez. You suck, and we could have gotten A compensation for you. Ugh. We don't pick until 72 now. My money is on a college starting pitcher with solid stuff and a 3/4 delivery. Should be easily singable and projects best as a back end of the rotation guy.

Hip Hip Hoorah Mets Farm System. I lol at you

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Hip Hip Hoorah Mets Farm System. I lol at you


Jenrry Mejia, Brad Holt, Wilmer Flores, Jefry Marte, Ruben Tejada, King Fernando, etc. DO NOT MOCK US. We just suck at drafting. We clean house IFA style.

[Smokey Joe]

White Sox fans feel your pain about drafting... however, in the past 2 years, we've had some very good drafts and really restocked the farm system.

[M.O.T.H.]

don't rule out Borchering if Wheeler isn't there. Borchering has been really flying up draft boards lately, and scouts have been impressed with how mature his bat is. Teams are drooling over his 40 homer potential from both sides of the plate.

I wouldn hate it...I've been clamoring for a 3B for a looooooong time. There is no guarantee that he stays at third, though. So that may turn them off.

[Hines]

White Sox fans feel your pain about drafting... however, in the past 2 years, we've had some very good drafts and really restocked the farm system.

At least you don't chose Bryan Bullington over BJ Upton and Danny Moskos over Matt Weiters.

[T-RICH49]

At least you don't chose Bryan Bullington over BJ Upton and Danny Moskos over Matt Weiters.

Hochevar over Lincecum


/discussion

[Tampa 2 4 life]

don't rule out Borchering if Wheeler isn't there. Borchering has been really flying up draft boards lately, and scouts have been impressed with how mature his bat is. Teams are drooling over his 40 homer potential from both sides of the plate.

I LOOOOOVE Borchering, If he can stick at 3rd or play a decent COF he can be a very, very good prospect.

[thetedginnshow]

Hochevar over Lincecum


/discussion

That was reasonable at the time though. It was worse that the Mariners took Morrow over him.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

That was reasonable at the time though. It was worse that the Mariners took Morrow over him.

If Morrow didn't want to close, it wouldn't be terrible.

[aNYtitan]

What is the probability that Tate goes to the A's? I have been reading stuff that says the A's are enamored with this kid, but this just doesn't fit Billy Beane's m.o.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

What is the probability that Tate goes to the A's? I have been reading stuff that says the A's are enamored with this kid, but this just doesn't fit Billy Beane's m.o.

The real question is, Does he fall? I doubt it.

[T-RICH49]

What is the probability that Tate goes to the A's? I have been reading stuff that says the A's are enamored with this kid, but this just doesn't fit Billy Beane's m.o.

if he falls let it be to 12

[aNYtitan]

Everyone wants him to fall, if he really prices himself using his football scholarship, he will I think

[VoteLynnSwan]

Hochevar over Lincecum


/discussion

Cubs suck too.

Ryan Harvey (career .247 hitter in the minors, hasn't made it past AA is with the Rockies now)

over

Nick Markakis (went the pick after Harvey)

and

Mark Prior

over

Mark Teixeira

not to mention 2002 when the Cubs took 4 college pitchers in the first and supplemental first rounds, none of which ever made the majors.

[ChezPower4]

Cubs suck too.

Ryan Harvey (career .247 hitter in the minors, hasn't made it past AA is with the Rockies now)

over

Nick Markakis (went the pick after Harvey)

and

Mark Prior

over

Mark Teixeira

not to mention 2002 when the Cubs took 4 college pitchers in the first and supplemental first rounds, none of which ever made the majors.

The Cubs love ******** all over themselves

[JHG722]

I swear if the Phillies draft another toolsy outfielder who ends up hitting .200, I'm gonna cry...

[Smokey Joe]

Hochevar over Lincecum


/discussion
Did either of you guys spend a 1st round draft pick on Kyle freaking McCulloch? I don't think so.

/discussion

[Smokey Joe]

Cubs suck too.

Mark Prior

over

Mark Teixeira

not to mention 2002 when the Cubs took 4 college pitchers in the first and supplemental first rounds, none of which ever made the majors.
The cubs do suck, but the Prior pick was a steal at the time. Funny how **** turns out.

[djp]

Please, every team has busts in the MLB Draft. It's the biggest crapshoot of them all.

Matt Moses? Adam Johnson? Joe Mauer?

Wait a minute...

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Please, every team has busts in the MLB Draft. It's the biggest crapshoot of them all.

Matt Moses? Adam Johnson? Joe Mauer?

Wait a minute...

Wade Townsend, Josh Hamilton, Dewon Brazelton.

[aNYtitan]

Hey Brien Taylor! Imagine if those late 90's yankees had someone with David Price type stuff, he was that good before he damaged his shoulder

[Hines]

Jonathon Mayo has hinted that the Mariners have seemed to back off of Dustin Ackley and that the Padres could go college arm. If there is a chance for that, I hope the Pirates select Ackley at 4. I really doubt it happens, but I guess there is a chance. If not, Crow, Leake, White, or Borchering.

[Matthew Jones]

Why a curveball is hard to hit:

http://illusioncontest.neuralcorrelate.com/2009/the-break-of-the-curveball/

Very cool visual.

[fischbowl]

Cubs suck too.

Ryan Harvey (career .247 hitter in the minors, hasn't made it past AA is with the Rockies now)

over

Nick Markakis (went the pick after Harvey)

and

Mark Prior

over

Mark Teixeira

not to mention 2002 when the Cubs took 4 college pitchers in the first and supplemental first rounds, none of which ever made the majors.

Don't give me any of this ********. Harvey was a freak of nature amongst HS hitters in 2002. Adam Johnson was the best pitcher in the 2000 draft class. Dewon Brazelton, however, not so much

I swear if the Phillies draft another toolsy outfielder who ends up hitting .200, I'm gonna cry...

Hey, did you know Anthony Gose has 40 SB this year. Didn't think so

[VoteLynnSwan]

Don't give me any of this ********. Harvey was a freak of nature amongst HS hitters in 2002. Adam Johnson was the best pitcher in the 2000 draft class. Dewon Brazelton, however, not so much



Hey, did you know Anthony Gose has 40 SB this year. Didn't think so

yea I know that Harvey was a great prospect, I don't know that the issue lies so much with our talent evaluators as it does with the guys who are supposed to be developing the talent. It's just an illustration of how bad the Cubs have been at developing players.

[devinhester=R.O.Y 2006]

So if Donovan Tate falls to the Braves at pick number 7 will they pull the trigger? Or will his price tag be too high and make the Braves go for fellow Georgia high schooler Zack Wheeler?

[M.O.T.H.]

If Wheeler and Tate are both there, they go Wheeler. If Tate is the only one available, I think they'll go w/ him instead of pitching. All I keep hearing is they covet pitching...or Tate.

[Damix]

Purke wants Porcello money, I doubt he gets it.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Purke wants Porcello money, I doubt he gets it.

I think someone bites, Purke's stuff is really, really, good, maybe on a kazmir level when he was coming out. Injuries are going to be an issue with that frame but I think a team is going to take the plunge.

btw Fisch, what do you think about Chris Gloor?

[devinhester=R.O.Y 2006]

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/draft-preview/2009/268298.html

John Manuel and Jim Callis put out a combo mock draft today. It was a good read.

[devinhester=R.O.Y 2006]

Also, Missouri pitcher Kyle Gibson has a stress fracture in his forearm, but should be healthy to pitch in late July.

[Giantsfan1080]

Just a reminder for everyone:


MLB.com will offer live coverage and analysis of the entire First-Year Player Draft on June 9-11. MLB Network will broadcast the first round at 6 p.m. ET on June 9 from its Studio 42 in Secaucus, N.J., and those 32 selections also will be simulcast live on MLB.com.

Beginning with the 33rd pick, up-to-the-minute on-air coverage from the remaining rounds will shift exclusively to MLB.com, where host Vinny Micucci will be joined by MLB.com Draft expert Jonathan Mayo and Major League Scouting Bureau director Frank Marcos.
Once the first night is done, the Draft will continue with rounds 4-30, via conference call from MLB headquarters in New York, at noon on June 10. Rounds 31-50 will be on June 11, starting at 11:30 a.m.

[T-RICH49]

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/draft-preview/2009/268298.html

John Manuel and Jim Callis put out a combo mock draft today. It was a good read.

startin to see Grant Green to KC in more mocks

[nobodyinparticular]

I have some truly wonderful news. I just realized that my wife will be out of the house working all day tomorrow so I will have the house all to myself to follow the draft! Woot! I am excited!

[D-Unit]

I have some truly wonderful news. I just realized that my wife will be out of the house working all day tomorrow so I will have the house all to myself to follow the draft! Woot! I am excited!
Are you sure she's really working?


haha. jk nip. I know, not funny. sorry.

I know Bryce Harper is only 16 and not in the draft, but what do you guys think of him as the Lebron James of baseball?

[derza222]

Are you sure she's really working?


haha. jk nip. I know, not funny. sorry.

I know Bryce Harper is only 16 and not in the draft, but what do you guys think of him as the Lebron James of baseball?

It's such a tease that he wants to play for the Yankees, since there's no way that's happening. At least not any time soon. I don't know about the Lebron James of baseball, and it's a lot harder to project baseball players than basketball obviously since there are so many things that can trip players up, but the stuff he's physically capable of doing is downright silly. I've never seen him play obviously but based on what I've read and seen, catcher with an incredible arm, lefty bat, great bat speed, power, runs pretty well, it's like somebody used create a player on a video game. I think it's safe to say that if you could build a prospect, he'd be pretty similar to Harper, so he's kind of like Lebron in that sense. It's so early, but I really hope he lives up to the promise.

[nobodyinparticular]

Are you sure she's really working?


haha. jk nip. I know, not funny. sorry.

I know Bryce Harper is only 16 and not in the draft, but what do you guys think of him as the Lebron James of baseball?

I'm going to go out on a limb like Sports Illustrated here--just on the side of the tree.

I'm calling a Tony Mandarich on this one. At 16 he is too big and too good to not be on PEDs. And just like Mandarich got by the college tests and stopped out of fear of being caught when he was drafted, Harper will either do the smart thing and stop taking PEDs when he is draft (and come down to earth) or he will continue to use and get caught.

Is there any way that a team should pass on Harper in the 2011 draft (up to this point)? Nope. But you better demand blood tests to go along with those pee tests to make sure he's clean.

[Wooty Magic!]

Any info on James Paxton ?

[Smokey Joe]

I'm going to go out on a limb like Sports Illustrated here--just on the side of the tree.

I'm calling a Tony Mandarich on this one. At 16 he is too big and too good to not be on PEDs. And just like Mandarich got by the college tests and stopped out of fear of being caught when he was drafted, Harper will either do the smart thing and stop taking PEDs when he is draft (and come down to earth) or he will continue to use and get caught.

Is there any way that a team should pass on Harper in the 2011 draft (up to this point)? Nope. But you better demand blood tests to go along with those pee tests to make sure he's clean.
I've been saying for a while this guy was a likely HGH user, probably because his dad forced it on him. At the age of 15 and as a high school freshman, he already looked like he could drink and he was hitting 500 foot bombs. Either he's Roy Hobbs, or he's had some help. The talent is definitely there though, and he has a promising future. But like you said, this could be Tony Mandarich all over. It seems like he never had a child hood and his dad has been overworking him in hopes of his son getting a huge contract and his life being on easy streak for now on.

Also, he needs to prove he can hit the curveball.

[Smokey Joe]

Any info on James Paxton ?
Really good stuff, but has had some problems with command and might need some refinement in his mechanics. Scott Boras client as well.

[Wooty Magic!]

Really good stuff, but has had some problems with command and might need some refinement in his mechanics. Scott Boras client as well.

I heard his fastball was around 97 which is kind of good and he's canadian :)

[ATLDirtyBirds]

So if Donovan Tate falls to the Braves at pick number 7 will they pull the trigger? Or will his price tag be too high and make the Braves go for fellow Georgia high schooler Zack Wheeler?


Jesus, the Braves better not get Tate.

[Borat]

Jesus, the Braves better not get Tate.

I'd be surprised if they pay the price for Tate.

[T-RICH49]

can someone give me some info on Will Myers?he appearantly had a workout with the Royals and was very impressive

[Smokey Joe]

can someone give me some info on Will Myers?he appearantly had a workout with the Royals and was very impressive
Extremely athletic and should be able to stick behind the plate, has a really strong arm. Has the tools to hit, but needs some work on his approach and mechanics.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Extremely athletic and should be able to stick behind the plate, has a really strong arm. Has the tools to hit, but needs some work on his approach and mechanics.

Even if he doesn't stick at C he'll probably still play a valuable position like CF or 2B.

[Hines]

I really hope Aaron Crow to the Pirates tomorrow. If the Pirates select Tony Sanchez, I will be beyond pissed.

[Giantsfan1080]

Fisch, is there going to be a mock before tomorrow at 6?

[fischbowl]

Fisch, is there going to be a mock before tomorrow at 6?

Hells Yeah

[JHG722]

Cant wait to see where Patrick Schuster ends up.

[fischbowl]

Cant wait to see where Patrick Schuster ends up.

Strong Florida commit. Probably some team in the late teen rounds.

[JHG722]

Strong Florida commit. Probably some team in the late teen rounds.

idk I've had him added on Facebook for a while, and his status indicates he's pretty excited about tomorrow.

[fischbowl]

idk I've had him added on Facebook for a while, and his status indicates he's pretty excited about tomorrow.

I'd be excited too if I was going to get drafted

[JHG722]

I'd be excited too if I was going to get drafted

Haha I know, but it doesnt sound like a strong commitment. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe he thinks some team will give him $3M. idk

[D-Unit]

Hells Yeah
I wanna see if it's more accurate than Keith Law. LOL.

What's your prediction for the Rangers?

[aNYtitan]

How much do you guys figure Tate asks for and eventually signs for?

[derza222]

I wanna see if it's more accurate than Keith Law. LOL.

What's your prediction for the Rangers?

Law doesn't have Crow in his mock. Is it just me or is that bordering on ridiculous? I get that he may have signability issues, but dropping out of the first round completely?

[aNYtitan]

Law doesn't have Crow in his mock. Is it just me or is that bordering on ridiculous? I get that he may have signability issues, but dropping out of the first round completely?

That is absolutely not going to happen

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Haha I know, but it doesnt sound like a strong commitment. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe he thinks some team will give him $3M. idk

He's good. He's not that good.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

btw Fisch, what do you think about Chris Gloor?

Fisch if you answer this I will be your best friend!

[Hines]

Law doesn't have Crow in his mock. Is it just me or is that bordering on ridiculous? I get that he may have signability issues, but dropping out of the first round completely?

Crow is going to be a Pittsburgh Pirate.

[JHG722]

He's good. He's not that good.

Oh I know. I just meant maybe he's a strong commit unless someone offers something ridiculous out of slot.

[aNYtitan]

This thread will be filled either with a lot of happiness or a crap load of hate. Should be interesting

[Tampa 2 4 life]

This thread will be filled either with a lot of happiness or a crap load of hate. Should be interesting

I'll be at the game tonight so I'll be throwing up a summary at 11 PM.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Also,Two goodPieces on Pitchers and Catchers.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124451132127696643.html
http://www.draysbay.com/2009/6/1/894780/drafting-catchers

[MaxV]

This thread will be filled either with a lot of happiness or a crap load of hate. Should be interesting

It'll be plenty of both.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

A lot of players yesterday gave out their bonus demands, unexpectedly large bonus demands. Expect more of the high school guys to fall than previously expected.

via Sickels


Maybe the rays can glue Purke and Kazmir together and get a pitcher that can go 7 innings.

[T-RICH49]

according to Law the Royals are in on Leake

[thetedginnshow]

Is there a greater chance Strasburg gets called up this year or the Nats can't sign him at all?

[Smokey Joe]

I'm hearing Max Walla is flying up draft boards....

[derza222]

Is there a greater chance Strasburg gets called up this year or the Nats can't sign him at all?

They're pretty damn close. My instinct was to say the second, since if they don't sign him the Nats can just get the second pick as comp next year (I believe) and call it a day, but with how much the Nats suck and their attendance issues if they do sign him I think he's a virtual lock to get called up at some point this year. But I think the sucking and attendance issues mean that if they don't sign Strasburg their tiny fan base is going to get really pissed, and that's enough leverage for Boras that Strasburg will get a good enough contract to sign. So I vote called up this year.

[Smokey Joe]

I think it's evident that the Nats are gonna draft an easy sign guy at 10 considering all the demands of Strasburg. At 10, they'll probably go with Brothers or Leake. Or maybe even Chad Jenkins or Drew Storen.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

I think it's evident that the Nats are gonna draft an easy sign guy at 10 considering all the demands of Strasburg. At 10, they'll probably go with Brothers or Leake. Or maybe even Chad Jenkins or Drew Storen.

Washington was previously on Minor for the No. 10 pick, but if he’s off the board, expect them to select Stanford reliever Drew Storen instead.


Well, he's certainly signable.

[Smokey Joe]

who are the high schoolers with ridiculous demands and might fall out of the 1st? Tate, Purke, anyone else?

[Borat]

who are the high schoolers with ridiculous demands and might fall out of the 1st? Tate, Purke, anyone else?

I think Shelby Miller is in that group.