Seahawks 2009-2010 Discussion [Archive]

Cicero

06-02-2009, 11:34 AM

To start this thread off, we finally have some (limited as it may be) news about Walter Jones.

The latest we’ve seen is Jones running wind sprints with trainers at the end of practice during organized team activities. Jones didn’t seem to favor his surgically repaired left knee during the workout, and appears to be on track to be ready for training camp.

We’ve already detailed the number of Seahawks who have been able to return from microfracture surgery for Seattle. Another thing I think that works in Jones’ favor is his injury history. Jones has missed only a handful of games in his career, starting all 16, regular season games seven times during his 13-year stint in the NFL.

And Jones is still a good athlete who is mobile for his size. So I suspect if he returns healthy that Jones can play for at least another two seasons, which is probably the reason the Hawks chose not to draft an offensive tackle in the first round.
http://blogs.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2009/06/01/answers_to_your_questions_back_from_the_

Running in a straight line isn't the hardest thing on your knee, but it's good to see he's moving around.

HawkEye30

06-02-2009, 06:03 PM

Cicero

06-03-2009, 03:14 AM

honestly as much as we need big walt, we really need to have a healthy productive patrick kerney, and also did anyone see the one preview for madden 2010 where we have the neon green jereseys on, ill post the link for the video later

Yes, I did see that and I have to say those jerseys are quite hideous.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4215859

HawkEye30

06-03-2009, 08:31 PM

Yes, I did see that and I have to say those jerseys are quite hideous.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4215859

yea they're pretty ugly, i love our home jerseys but i wouldnt mind if we got new away jerseys

Cicero

06-04-2009, 07:13 AM

Just made my last forum mock pick.

11. Carlos Dunlap
21. Brian Bulaga
53. Deunta Williams
77. C.J. Spiller

Traded down to GB's #13 spot and picked up Jarrett Bush and their third rounder
Traded up to Dallas #11 spot and sent the 13th and our fourth

We had all underclassmen declaring. 4 rounds.

Cicero

06-09-2009, 11:35 AM

http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=9&c=2&cid=870760&nid=4325359&fhn=1

Courtney Greene signed.

Cicero

06-10-2009, 10:09 AM

Teel and Reed signed as well.

Cicero

06-19-2009, 09:02 PM

Cameron Morrah signed.
http://blogs.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2009/06/18/hawks_sign_te_morrah

ChezPower4

07-25-2009, 01:58 PM

The Hawks sign WR Deon Butler

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/07/24/seahawks.butler.ap/index.html

jballa838

07-25-2009, 09:14 PM

We need WRs to step up this year, and Butler could be that guy. Basic run of the mill 3rd round contract, but he should come and help immediately.

HawkEye30

07-29-2009, 04:47 PM

would someone please start a topic haha

HawkEye30

08-01-2009, 09:41 AM

http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/seahawks/story/830584.html
i kind of figured this would happen, interesting part was locklear at rg so maybe theyll put willis at rt

summond822

08-01-2009, 06:02 PM

duckseason

08-01-2009, 06:24 PM

Long time no see guys. What I'm more interested in Hawks land is when are they going to sign Aaron Curry. Curry's representatives are apparently asking for the guaranteed money that Sanchez got at 5 (28 million) but the Seahawks believe that QB's earn more money than other positions (completely true) and therefore it sounds like we could end up having a potential hold out beyond just the opening weekend of training camp.
Seattle's FO needs to cut the BS and admit it's not the position of the #5 overall pick that's relevant. Mark Sanchez got the contract he got because of where he was selected.

When you pick a guy #4 overall, you're acknowledging that he's worth #4 overall money. Plain and simple. You're saying he's worth more to your franchise than any player still left on the board, QB's included. If they feel that LB's aren't worth that kind of money, it's contradictory to draft Aaron Curry with the #4 overall selection. They think Mark Sanchez is worth more, then they made the wrong selection.

redbills

08-20-2009, 12:41 AM

How has Max Unger looked so far?

summond822

08-24-2009, 10:30 PM

Seahawks have apparently signed Edgerrin James. Sounds like a 1 year, $2 million contract. They need the depth that's for sure, but other than that, it is kind of hard to see why they made this move.

HawkEye30

08-24-2009, 10:48 PM

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/08/24/james-signs-deal-with-seahawks/
dont really get this one either

summond822

08-25-2009, 10:01 PM

There was an article on James's official site talking about him coming to Seattle, but it is gone now. This may be a case where the leak may have blown up the deal. It also sounds as if this deal is actually going to happen then Duckett is gone.

HawkEye30

08-25-2009, 10:22 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp09/news/story?id=4422263

i have to admit i did not see this one coming, i was never a fan of duckett but i was sure he would have stuck around because he played for mora

Cicero

08-26-2009, 01:34 AM

I would rather have Duckett than Jones. At least Duckett does one thing (short yardage) well where as Jones fails as everything.

HawkEye30

08-26-2009, 09:46 AM

we desperately need to sign another lt, such as mark tauscher or levi jones , the sean locklear experience will not work

Geo

08-26-2009, 10:54 AM

I love the pick-up of Edge by the Seahawks, he should start for them all year imo.

Babylon

08-26-2009, 06:45 PM

How has Max Unger looked so far?

Better than expected i think and versatile. With the health of the OL i would be surprised if he doesnt start, might of anyway.

Cicero

09-04-2009, 07:02 PM

We should add another former Cardinal in Roderick Hood. We need someone to start opposite Lucas while Tru is out and he knows all of Arizona's schemes.

Hurricanes25

09-04-2009, 07:05 PM

How has Mike Teel and Courtney Greene played for you this pre-season?

Cicero

09-06-2009, 12:03 AM

Teel looked good. He looke like a rookie, but he definitely held his own out there. Greene didn't do a whole lot, which is probably why he got cut.

Jack Ikegwuonu also got cut. TR you need to get us another CB make it happen!

Babylon

09-06-2009, 02:06 PM

Sort of weird when a starter gets cut. (Brian Russell) They'll find out real quick Lawyer Malloy isnt the answer but in reality whoever is back there is keeping the seat warm for Mays or Berry.

Cicero

09-08-2009, 07:20 AM

Ikegwuonu signed to Eagles practice squad...not happy.

Splat

09-14-2009, 07:55 PM

McIntosh heading to Seattle for a visit (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/14/mcintosh-heading-to-seattle-for-a-visit/)

I'm sorry.

HawkEye30

09-28-2009, 09:08 AM

Alright guys I'm not even gonna lie, I figured that if the bears can beat the steelers they sure as hell can beat the injury ridden seahawks. With that said I think we played a helluva game, I think the defense looked really good except for deon grant taking travis fisher out on that last play haha. I was extremely pleased with our linebackers, hawthorne is a beast, herring goes non stop, and aaron curry is starting to get it and he looks real good. Overall if mare had made those field goals we would have gone into OT and I believe we had a reall good chance to win that ball game. I saw some of Mora's press conference after the game, haha he was pissed as hell at Mare and rightfully so, so i wouldnt be too surprised if couto comes back or someone else

HawkEye30

09-28-2009, 10:05 AM

Another thing i was pleased with was brandon frye, now im not a 100% but i don't think he gave a sack up and he played better than locklear was at lt, actually the o-line played better than i thought they would

Babylon

09-28-2009, 02:44 PM

^
They did play well but you arent going to win consistantly in the NFL with that many injuries. Players and coaches dont admit it but it's fact.

At some point they are going to have to address the backup QB position. I don't know if Mike Teel is the eventual answer but Matt cant seem to stay on the field and Seneca is just a stop gap. One of those two 1st round picks is going to have to be a QB of the future. The other is probably going to be a safety or a LT.

Cicero

10-01-2009, 02:23 AM

HawkEye30

10-01-2009, 12:47 PM

Out-

LT Walter Jones (Possibly done forever)
LT Sean Locklear
CB Marcus Trufant (PUP)
OLB Leroy Hill
QB Matt Hasselbeck

Questionable-
OT Brandon Frye
CB Josh Wilson

**** it's going to be brutal this weekend.

haha yes but you have to look at the positives, there's a CHANCE dwight freeny wont play, which could mean we won't give up as many sacks as if he did play.

jballa838

10-03-2009, 01:32 PM

haha yes but you have to look at the positives, there's a CHANCE dwight freeny wont play, which could mean we won't give up as many sacks as if he did play.
Still, Seneca is gonna be on his back a lot this week. not excited.

Cicero

10-08-2009, 08:27 PM

Can we please get a RB who is worth a damn in the ZBS? Cutting Jones and James and getting two RBs off of waivers would probably improve our run game as sad as that is. Ryan Torain (Shanny loved him) and/or Selvin Young anyone?

gpngc

10-08-2009, 08:42 PM

Cicero

10-08-2009, 09:08 PM

CJ SPILLER.

But that doesn't help us now lol. Personally I would rather spend our second first rounder on a LT if we take any other position first (Locker plzzzz) or a DB if we miss the QBs and take a LT with our first pick. I like the value at RB later much more than I do at LT.

There is a chance either best or Spiller will be there in round 2. That and this is a really stacked RB class. For eligible guys you have Best, Spiller, Dwyer, Murray, Gerhart, Devine, Royster, McKnight, Cooper, and Matthews just off the top of my head. All the juniors won't declare obviously but even if half of them do we will still have quite a few choices after round 1.

gpngc

10-08-2009, 09:58 PM

But that doesn't help us now lol. Personally I would rather spend our second first rounder on a LT if we take any other position first (Locker plzzzz) or a DB if we miss the QBs and take a LT with our first pick. I like the value at RB later much more than I do at LT.

There is a chance either best or Spiller will be there in round 2. That and this is a really stacked RB class. For eligible guys you have Best, Spiller, Dwyer, Murray, Gerhart, Devine, Royster, McKnight, Cooper, and Matthews just off the top of my head. All the juniors won't declare obviously but even if half of them do we will still have quite a few choices after round 1.

well if we hadn't drafted a 4-3 OLB instead of a franchise QB we could've gone RB-LT in rd. 1....

I'm just a huge Spiller fan is all.

Let's salvage this season, a win at home vs JAC and then another vs ARZ and we're right back in it.... and I'm the pessimist!!!!!!!!

summond822

10-09-2009, 02:47 AM

well if we hadn't drafted a 4-3 OLB instead of a franchise QB we could've gone RB-LT in rd. 1....

I'm just a huge Spiller fan is all.

Let's salvage this season, a win at home vs JAC and then another vs ARZ and we're right back in it.... and I'm the pessimist!!!!!!!!

Works out better for us if we get Locker over anything that we would've gotten last year. Come draft day the question isn't going to be how far will Jake slide, but how high will he go? Come draft day, if they need to, they need to package both of their picks together and get him. Keep him home!!!!

As for the season here is the key to salvaging it: Getting healthy. Mora is enough of a raw-raw guy that he can pick up the team, but he can't win if 3/4 of the starting line-up is out. With Jones likely out for October, this offensive line really needs to start picking it up.

And as it is, I don't really like Spiller. I'd rather have Jahvid Best. You can sign effective RB's off the street (GB did it with Samkon Gado) but if you want best results you take one in the draft. I don't understand why Ruskell doesn't understand this key concept. You typically don't get good RB's in FA because their locked up long before then.

So here's my message to Ruskell: Do whatever it takes to bring in Jake Locker and draft a RB in one of the first 3 rounds this year!!!! (Finding a replacement for Walter Jones would appreciated too)

Cicero

10-10-2009, 04:11 AM

Garrard is in for a real surprise. I hope he likes 1st and 15's...

"It's really hard for me to believe that this place is going to be louder than Indianapolis' old stadium."

jballa838

10-10-2009, 11:09 AM

hahaha even at whatever our record is, you know its gonna be a loud game.

12TH MAN STAND UP!

The Unseen

10-11-2009, 07:07 PM

good game y'all. Hasselbeck seems to be back.

Cicero

10-13-2009, 02:44 AM

I usually like my mock draft outcomes, I'm not feeling so great about this one though. The top 3 QBs got taken before me :(. Maybe I should have taken Hayden over Campbell but I didn't want to have to pray to get him at pick 21 especially when he's my 2nd OT.

My first two picks were...
14. Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland- After Bulaga and William's struggles he's my #2 OT now. I can't complain about this pick, although I might have gotten Gerald McCoy if I didn't take him with the Titans and he might have fell to 21 if I took Haden. I was probably going to take Haden but I didn't see the time slots got changed, so the Texans jumped me and took him.

21. Allen Bailey, DT, Miami- Outside of this weekend our run D has been terrible and Bailey is a monster against both the run and getting to the QB. None of our DTs really stand out except Mebane in my opinion.

I got stuck at pick 21. I don't think any of the RBs are worth it, I already got a LT, Haden was gone, so I took Bailey before my clock ran out. I hope things change at CB because I really don't know who we would take here.

At pick 36 although I really wanted to grab a corner Cox and Robinson were gone and there was Greg Hardy. He was just too valuable at this point and I couldn't pass on him. I like the Giants philosophy of there's no such thing as too many pass rushers. Kerney is getting up there in age and is often injured as well. I considered Earl Thomas here but Hardy was just too much value.

I can't go without taking a RB so I'm going to hope I can get Ryan Matthews tomorrow. I love this guy and I think he's a perfect fit for the ZBS.

Ideally in this scenario we could have signed a CB in free agency and resigned Lucas + moved him to FS. This mock definitely didn't go how I planned but doing this really made me realize how tough of a spot we might be in with the pick from the Broncos. Our pass rush would be beastly that's for sure lol.

summond822

10-16-2009, 04:44 PM

LT & 2 defensive linemen would be nice. Our platoon at DT, other than Mebane, really hasn't been solid yet. However, Kerney is getting older, so I like the pick of Hardy. Even if he is only a situational pass rusher.

Cicero

10-19-2009, 07:20 AM

Mora officially gives up on the season
http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2009/10/18/jim-mora-press-conference-playoffs-no-longer-hawks-focus/

Babylon

10-19-2009, 04:49 PM

Mora officially gives up on the season
http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2009/10/18/jim-mora-press-conference-playoffs-no-longer-hawks-focus/

Well after they lose at Dallas in two weeks they're going to be 2-5. Anyone thinking playoffs is nuts. Probably something a coach isnt going to say too often that they're out of it (or even hint that) but they're out of it. I actually would rather see them lose a bunch of games and rebuild with a great draft but i'm sure they'll play all their games to win.

Cicero

10-19-2009, 07:12 PM

Well after they lose at Dallas in two weeks they're going to be 2-5. Anyone thinking playoffs is nuts. Probably something a coach isnt going to say too often that they're out of it (or even hint that) but they're out of it. I actually would rather see them lose a bunch of games and rebuild with a great draft but i'm sure they'll play all their games to win.

I think it's a realistic assessment that we aren't making the playoffs but I just thought it was odd to hear from Mora this early in the season, especially since we still are waiting on quite a few key guys to come back from injuries. I'm used to coaches being overly optimistic.

The Chiefs should have beat the Cowboys and with the way they're playing this year you can't guarantee anything. We have a legit shot at beating them, not because we are playing really well but because they just haven't looked good this year. Romo is having a terrible season and they're really struggling with their pass rush. I'm not counting on a win but if the Chiefs can put up a fight we definitely can, especially if we have Trufant, Locklear, and Hill playing.

jballa838

10-19-2009, 09:48 PM

Seriously. Mora should never say that, but he has every right to.
Our line is in shambles and Walter Jones is probably done. Matty has missed a lot this season and you have to wonder how much he has left in the reserves. Our RB's are bad. On the bright side Deon Butler has looked great and John Carlson has been also lookin great. On D our line sucks, best player is out for a long time (might not be season anymore I'm hearing), and our secondary is whack.

summond822

10-21-2009, 12:00 AM

This is going to be a thoroughly disturbing season. It's just so frustrating to see this team show a flash of greatness against Jacksonville then turn around and look about as bad as possible against Arizona. I don't think we could've beat the Rams the way we played Sunday.

There really isn't anything that can be done about injuries except to get younger. Lets be perfectly honest with ourselves, this team is likely not even gonna reach .500 this year. Something needs to be done, mainly a large rebuilding effort. We need to find a replacement to Hasselbeck, Jones (Julius & Walter), Kerney, etc. Also, this plague of injuries on the offensive line is not going to stop until we get multiple new players in there. Once these guys start to get hurt they never stop.

Cicero

10-21-2009, 02:38 PM

Jake Locker would be my guess. But it's very early. RT @blurm: @Adam_Schefter At this point, who is the first QB to get drafted?

:) followed by :(

Babylon

10-21-2009, 05:30 PM

Jake Locker would be my guess. But it's very early. RT @blurm: @Adam_Schefter At this point, who is the first QB to get drafted?

:) followed by :(

They should invoke the old NBA rule where you could draft a guy who had been enrolled for 4 years and let him play his senior year (Celtics did it with Larry Bird). Jake could go to summer camp with the Seahawks then play for the Huskies in the fall.

Cicero

10-24-2009, 02:57 AM

Anyone else going to the game UW-Oregon game tomorrow?

jballa838

10-24-2009, 08:14 PM

did you end up going?

Cicero

10-25-2009, 06:28 AM

did you end up going?

Yes, yes I did attend that massacre.

summond822

10-25-2009, 02:09 PM

I didn't have tickets, but it was probably a good thing cause I ended up walking out of the room in the third quarter after that pick. I live pretty close to the frats, so I got to hear the Oregon fans come up the street afterwards...man that is infuriating.

jballa838

10-25-2009, 06:48 PM

I watched on tv shaking my head. It was awful. At least we have a bye week this week to get back on track.

summond822

11-02-2009, 10:29 PM

Well, we have problems. Mora has officially given up on the season (saying the entire organization is going to be be evaluated is giving up >.<), and there are so many places where they need to improve, but I'm thinking right now, Jake Locker, one of the OT's once that finally gets shaken out, or (and this may not make immediate sense) either Suh or McCoy.

Locker or an OT are obvious, our offense is old and we need the replacements sooner rather than later. But why Suh or McCoy? Our defensive line is not very good with the exception of Mebane & Kerney. Kerney is old and he's been injured the last couple of years. We need to find a true successor to him this offseason, hopefully in the draft or Jackson/Tapp decide that they want to develop into pass rushers.

Suh & McCoy don't fill an obvious need, but they do fill one. We desperately need someone who can stop the run, and pairing Suh or McCoy up alongside Mebane would lead to us having an amazing defensive front for years to come. Tapp & Jackson would automatically become better because teams would be forced to double team inside, leaving our ends with solo matchups. And if by chance our ends become dominant, then teams are going to face the quandry of who to double team on any given play.

Teams are built through the lines. You can have the greatest linebackers, safeties, & corners ever, but if your unable to consistently generate a pass rush, they are going to get beat. It happens. Look at the worst defenses in the league, look at how many sacks they get. Then if their a team like the Seahawks were last year, through out the games where they get 5 sacks and compare the numbers the rest of the games. Pass rush is key to a successful defense, and until the Seahawks get one again, this defense is going to underperform, thus me desperately wanting to get someone like Suh who is so dominating in all facets of the game.

Edit: Also, Suh is from Portland so while not quite the local boy that Taylor Mays is, he is pretty close to being one.

gpngc

11-02-2009, 11:07 PM

summond822

11-03-2009, 04:17 PM

I mean we wasted a top 4 pick on a non-impact player last year. That was just terrible. We should have Mark Sanchez right now. Instead we have T.J. Houshmandzadeh and a million good LBs with no help in front or behind them.

I would've settled for Andre Smith or Eugene Monroe. Our offensive line is horrible, and this "don't draft positions of need because we don't want to alienate our older players" habit of Ruskell is starting to piss me off.

I love Aaron Curry, but your right, LB is not an impact position. In hindsight there is no doubt that Mark Sanchez would've been the right pick. Especially now that Hasselbeck has injured ribs and one more hit like the one from Willis could end his career.

Cicero

11-09-2009, 04:13 AM

Thank goodness for Matt Bustford.

Babylon

11-09-2009, 02:38 PM

Thank goodness for Matt Bustford.

Stafford shouldnt even be playing yet. The Detroit pass to run ratio is completely backwards, if you're going to play a rookie then do what they did in Atlanta and Baltimore with Ryan and Flacco, run the ball. The Lions were getting 5.4 ypc and should have run the ball. Stafford should be a senior in the SEC not starting for the worst team in the league.

Cicero

11-29-2009, 06:36 PM

Even against the Rams Hasselbeck didn't look very good today. If it wasn't already 100% clear that we need a QB in this draft, it should be to everyone now.

summond822

12-07-2009, 12:04 PM

I am happy that we beat SF even if it ends up making us drop a little bit in terms of the draft, but at the end of that game, why the heck was Julius Jones in the game on that last series?!?!?! He doesn't have the skill set of Forsett, who is better in open space, is a legitimate threat out of the backfield, and a better pass blocker.

It seemed to me that Mora was trying to send a message to Forsett/Jones throughout the game that Jones is the number 1 back regardless of what Forsett has done. Crediting Forsett's numbers to "the line getting healthier" is like saying that he's not a very good RB. I'm pretty sure that we all agree that Forsett is the better runner, and the commentators for the game even said that SF thought that Forsett was the better runner. *sigh* Well I didn't understand the decision...but maybe I'm wrong

Cicero

12-14-2009, 03:20 PM

Is there really anything to say for this game that we haven't already gone over a bunch? Terrible coverage, no pass rush, terrible o-line play... I switched games at halftime it was just too painful to watch.

I'm at the point where I'm starting to think it might be better just to not watch the rest of our games and save myself the stress and frustration. It's much more fun looking at the draft.

Cicero

12-14-2009, 04:08 PM

Bad mood? Ha who cares Huskies still have Locker!

summond822

12-14-2009, 04:36 PM

Bad mood? Ha who cares Huskies still have Locker!

We better enjoy Locker for the one year we have him, cause he's not playing in Seattle as a pro unless we're drafting #1 (barring injury *knock on wood*)

Babylon

12-14-2009, 05:36 PM

summond822

12-14-2009, 07:27 PM

Thing that really stood out to me was how pathetic the O-line is. They just cant pick up a blitz on this team. Add to that they may well lose Spencer in the off season so i think it's almost to a point where they need to draft a lineman high and add a quality free agent.

It's completely true, but isn't the reason why we drafted Unger to replace Spencer, longterm?

However, there was a good article calling out Mora for calling out the offensive line. Pretty much it says that since our defense was so pathetic that they couldn't stop Houston, and thereby put the offense into a hug hole, the offensive line really had no shot.

Your not going to stop Mario Williams all game when he knows your going to pass. This is a result of the offensive scheme not fitting the offensive talent, and Knapp & Mora are at fault for that just as much as Ruskell is. But I lay the blame of a crappy defense squarely on the shoulders of Mora.

The team as a whole came out unprepared and unwilling to play. Maybe it's cause theres a cancer in the locker room (Housh). Or maybe it's cause there isn't a coach who actually knows how to get his players prepared for the game.

gpngc

12-14-2009, 10:16 PM

And Michael Crabtree is right on cue...

Fun times.

Next week, Sanchez throws for 400 yards and five touchdowns watch...

while Curry is still chasing after Vernon Davis.

Cicero

12-14-2009, 10:45 PM

And Michael Crabtree is right on cue...

Fun times.

Next week, Sanchez throws for 400 yards and five touchdowns watch...

while Curry is still chasing after Vernon Davis.

After that shot Curry took to the ribs he's not going to be chasing anyone for the next week or two.

summond822

12-15-2009, 01:30 AM

And Michael Crabtree is right on cue...

Fun times.

Next week, Sanchez throws for 400 yards and five touchdowns watch...

while Curry is still chasing after Vernon Davis.

You should really just be rooting for Crabtree to fail right now...

You actually think Sanchez is going to throw for 200, let alone 500 yards against Atlanta?

And Curry is hurt, so who knows how long he's out for.

gpngc

12-16-2009, 02:40 PM

You should really just be rooting for Crabtree to fail right now...

You actually think Sanchez is going to throw for 200, let alone 500 yards against Atlanta?

And Curry is hurt, so who knows how long he's out for.

I just call it how I see it.

I see Sanchez every week and anything the overblown NY media is saying negative about the 21-year-old CHILD is just that- OVERBLOWN.

Here's what we passed on:

He has:

-exceptional leadership qualities, heart, and toughness

-good pocket awareness and excellent mobility

-underrated arm strength (can make any throw on field for Braylon to drop)

His negatives:

-making a bunch of mistakes in reading coverages and taking unnecessary risks

This is a product of a few things:

a) the Jets think they are good and do not want their green QB to hold them back. It's hard for someone so young to hand the ball off 100 times and get into rhythm passing when it's needed. He's not getting the chance to just go out there and explore the art of NFL quarterbacking like Stafford is because the Jets are a D/Run-oriented team with a shot at the playoffs.

b) He's ridiculously young and inexperienced. 16 career starts is crazy. You can tell by his body language that he's impatient and overzealous in almost every respect. He'll calm down, and the game will slow down for him in the coming years if not weeks.

In my estimation, he's on pace to become a great QB for years and years to come. It really just sucks that we don't have a QB is all.

Cicero

12-20-2009, 08:46 PM

Just when you think watching the Hawks couldn't get any more depressing...

yodapoop

12-21-2009, 11:48 AM

Just when you think watching the Hawks couldn't get any more depressing...

Not only that, but u pretty much guaranteed that Ndomakung (pretty close maybe?) will be in the division next year (hopefully at least).

Cicero

12-28-2009, 05:22 AM

Babylon

12-28-2009, 04:41 PM

I'm so glad I chose to sleep through the Hawks game today. I've been avoiding the highlights on ESPN as well. Definitely avoiding next week's game watching Chris Johnson rape and pillage our defense is not going to be fun.

Decided to go see Sherlock Holmes but that didnt start till 2:30 so i watched the debacle in Green Bay. No surprises i think we all know they would get smoked. Bigger question i guess is who will be back next year. Personally getting tired of the whole Matt Hasselbeck act but maybe one more year till Montlake Jake arrives.

Cicero

12-28-2009, 05:15 PM

Has Ruskell's horrible offensive line turned Hasselbeck into Marc Bulger 2.0? I finally got around to reading the recaps and from what I read it was another pathetic week from him.

Babylon

12-28-2009, 05:45 PM

Hass hasnt much to work with. No real running game and his receivers arent going to go after the ball. He's probably still a decent QB but by the time they rebuild around him he'll be done. Need to start grooming his replacement.

If i werent so interested in Jake Locker coming after next season i wouldnt have a problem with drafting a QB early but i dont see anyone on his level to make that move now. Just my take.

summond822

12-28-2009, 10:21 PM

I'm so glad I chose to sleep through the Hawks game today. I've been avoiding the highlights on ESPN as well. Definitely avoiding next week's game watching Chris Johnson rape and pillage our defense is not going to be fun.

I wish I would've. As I sat there watching the game with my dad, we were both wondering why the hell Hasselbeck was still in the game after his third interception, then he went and threw his fourth. It was an absolutely pathetic game to watch, and if it wasn't for flipping to the Ravens-Steelers game, I probably wouldn't have stayed in the room long enough to watch how badly our team played. Also, I'm really starting to get tired of seeing Houshmanzadeh running his mouth, yelling at people when he hasn't done **** to back up his huge contract or his mouth.

Personally, I think the Seahawks should try to transform one of their picks into a first rounder next year, giving them some extra trade bait to try and get ammunition for a run at Locker.

Babylon

12-29-2009, 03:49 PM

I wish I would've. As I sat there watching the game with my dad, we were both wondering why the hell Hasselbeck was still in the game after his third interception, then he went and threw his fourth. It was an absolutely pathetic game to watch, and if it wasn't for flipping to the Ravens-Steelers game, I probably wouldn't have stayed in the room long enough to watch how badly our team played. Also, I'm really starting to get tired of seeing Houshmanzadeh running his mouth, yelling at people when he hasn't done **** to back up his huge contract or his mouth.

Personally, I think the Seahawks should try to transform one of their picks into a first rounder next year, giving them some extra trade bait to try and get ammunition for a run at Locker.

Depending on who's running the show there i think you'll see a lot of movement on draft day. There are probably offensive lineman/safties/rbs they can get with later picks than they have. Gathering extra ammo to go after Locker has to be a priority.

Cicero

01-07-2010, 03:58 PM

Jason La Confora of NFL.com is now reporting that the Seahawks list of potential candidates for the vacant general manager position is down to four, according to sources with knowledge of the situation.

According to the report, Ravens personnel director Eric DeCosta and Packers director of football operations John Schneider were two of the final four candidates who have been contacted.

La Confora also goes on to mention that Arizona Cardinals director of player personnel Steve Keim and Philadelphia GM Tom Heckert are the two other finalists. However, La Confora says he has not determined if Keim has been contacted. But he does report that to his knowledge Heckert has not been contacted for the Seahawks position.

http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2010/01/05/report-hawks-gm-list-down-to-four-finalists/

Good. All people involved in organizations who draft well. I still want DeCosta <33333.

Oh, and I just came across this.

Marc Ross, the Giants’ college scouting director for the last two years, is reportedly a candidate to become the next general manager of the Seattle Seahawks.

Ross, who replaced Jerry Reese in the chief scout role when Reese got the Giants’ GM job before the 2007 season, will interview for the GM vacancy in Seattle next week, according to a Twitter report from ESPN’s Adam Schefter.

The 35-year-old Ross has spent 14 years in the NFL, including as a scout with the Philadelphia Eagles and Buffalo Bills

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/#ixzz0bxkAWabf

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/#ixzz0bwzj2Abf

Once again another guy from an organization who drafts extremely well. This is the kind of stuff I like to see.

summond822

01-08-2010, 10:36 AM

Nice finds. I agree I'm excited about both DeCosta & Ross, especially if Ross is actually a candidate for the job. It's hard not to be excited about guys who have proven to excel at finding great talent through the draft.

summond822

01-08-2010, 11:35 AM

http://www.mynorthwest.com/?nid=292&sid=266819

John Clayton on the GM & coaching situation.

Not good news regarding the GM search. Kinda makes you wonder what the hell is going on in the front office not starting interviews earlier.

Cicero

01-08-2010, 03:25 PM

iworshipbender

01-09-2010, 12:59 AM

Well, you guys are pretty sure going to get Pete Carroll. Congrats!

summond822

01-09-2010, 08:17 PM

cuzifelt1ikeit

01-10-2010, 01:10 AM

I heard a rumor that the Seahawks were converting to a 3-4 defense next year once Carrol comes up here. Can anyone confirm or deny this, cause I can't remember where I read the article. It makes a lot of sense because it'll finally let our strongest defensive position (linebacker) be able to make plays all over the field.

Of course I think we'd still be one or two OLB's away in that case, and taking Sergio Kindle somewhere in the draft would make me extremely happy if we convert to a 3-4

im a huge pete carrol fan but a bigger washington fan so im glad you guys got him. but im pretty sure you guys will end up running a variation of the 3-4 because thats what he ran at SC. with two first rounders this year it will help you guys in transition though, the pack did the same thing last offseason and its worked out great for them, however dom capers 3-4 and pete carrols 3-4 defense are a little different

summond822

01-10-2010, 01:33 AM

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2010/01/pete-carroll-will-just-be-seahawks-coach.html

Link clarifying that Pete Carroll is going to only be the coach for the Seahawks as well as some contract details. I would like for the Seahawks to have a GM in place before the playoffs are over, or at the latest a week after the Super Bowl.

Cicero

01-10-2010, 02:06 AM

Our personnel does not fit well into the 3-4 at all. I really hope we don't try that.

cuzifelt1ikeit

01-10-2010, 01:44 PM

Our personnel does not fit well into the 3-4 at all. I really hope we don't try that.

dont be too worried.. ours didnt fit well either.

jballa838

01-10-2010, 05:51 PM

What do we do with all our 4-3 edge rushers in the 3-4? Nobody wants to see fatass Darryl Tapp dropping back into coverage.

gpngc

01-10-2010, 05:55 PM

LOL really.

There is no reason to move to a 3-4.

And Kindle? Seriously? You want to invest ANOTHER draft pick on a linebacker? They need literally everything else.

And thats besides Kindle being massively overrated and one dimensional.

jballa838

01-10-2010, 05:58 PM

seriously. don't we have enough linebackers with ridiculous contracts?

ChefMike

03-08-2010, 10:03 AM

QB or LT in the 1st?

summond822

03-08-2010, 11:31 PM

Hard to say, it really depends on the value. If they go QB at 6, kind of hard not to see them taking a LT with one of their next two picks. If they go LT at 6, they could really go anywhere.

jballa838

03-09-2010, 12:07 AM

probably both. I guess those are your franchise cornerstones or something.

ChefMike

03-10-2010, 12:04 PM

Well now I can't see them going both, not addressing the Defense in a draft that has so much Talent on the Defensive side of the ball and PC being a defensive minded coach...

ChefMike

03-10-2010, 12:06 PM

Cicero

03-10-2010, 09:51 PM

and I should have clarified my statement more and said with the 6th pick go QB or LT

If I were selecting I would go after Eric Berry then take a LT in the middle of the round then go after the QB in the 2nd rd. But that is just me....

After reading Scott's 2nd and 3rd round QB article I cringe every time someone suggests taking one of them with the expectation that they will actually be a franchise QB some day. With that kind of success rate you just have to hope to get lucky.

gpngc

03-10-2010, 09:53 PM

If Clausen is there at #6 they have to take him. So all you Clausen-haters or Locker-way-too-early-enthusiasts better pray that Snyder/Shanny take JC at #4.

summond822

03-11-2010, 01:13 AM

Yeah, honestly I'm starting to expect the pick to be Clausen. Pete Carroll has a love affair with guys he didn't manage to recruit and do well elsewhere. Clausen is one of those guys, so don't be surprised to see him being the pick at 6.

That being the case, then I expect them to go BPA at 14, be that Spiller, Mays, or someone else. Then probably taking a LT in the early second.

I think the biggest problem with our defense is the pass rush. Everyone else looks better if you are able to get to the QB. Course, I still want an upgrade at CB & S, as well as someone who can actually compliment Mebane instead of Cole.

EDIT: At the same time, the thought of drafting Clausen makes me cringe and want to cry at the thought of not even having the possibility of Locker next year...