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cvv84
06-13-2009, 04:09 PM
Scraped due to lack of time

cvv84
06-16-2009, 04:57 PM
Packers signed 7th round LB Brad Jones, 6th round DE Jarius Wynn, and 6th round CB Brandon Underwood to four-year deals.

The team also announced the signing of TE Devin Frischknecht and released CB Joshua Abrams.

Burger
06-16-2009, 05:09 PM
YES, we have Brad Jones now.

AJHawk50
06-17-2009, 10:01 AM
We need to be getting Greg Jennings a new deal...

tjsunstein
06-17-2009, 10:18 AM
Very, very soon. Rodgers and Jennings are a great duo to have.

cvv84
06-17-2009, 12:13 PM
Lots of big decisions to be made this year. We obviously won't let Jennings get away and I think he could get an extention a few weeks into the season. I'd like to see Collins follow up his breakout year with another good year before paying him. I also wouldn't be opposed to extending him in year if he shows that same playmaking ability.

Then there's the next tier of players such as Spitz, Colledge, Jolly, and Bigby. I could see Spitz or Colledge getting an extention after the season and maybe franchising the other, probably Spitz because center will be cheaper to franchise than guard. Jolly depends on his legal woes and if he transitions well into the 3-4. Bigby could become a RFA depending on if they renew the CBA.

Clifton is gone, Humphrey could be as well just as long as Finley steps up his game, Chillar could be replaced, and Pickett could be gone if Raji becomes our NT of the future.

Blackmon is a wild card. He's become a very good return man but hasn't developed at CB. Maybe playing more of the zone coverage will help him this year but good return men are hard to find, I'd like to keep him.

cvv84
06-18-2009, 06:02 PM
Interesting note: LB Spencer Havner is now playing TE and will focus on playing both TE and LB during training camp. If he makes the team I wonder if that extra roster spot could go towards the offensive line seeing we have a ton of young potential future starters there.

cvv84
06-23-2009, 06:37 PM
WR Lorne Sam has been released.

cvv84
06-24-2009, 05:31 PM
OL Nevin McCaskill has been released.

cvv84
06-25-2009, 03:08 PM
Packers signed 5th round OL Jamon Meredith to a 4 year contract.

cvv84
07-07-2009, 05:18 PM
The Green Bay Packers just announced that they have signed fourth round draft pick T.J. Lang.

cvv84
07-22-2009, 05:08 PM
Packers signed 5th round FB Quinn Johnson to a 4 year contract. To make room on the roster, the Packers cut undrafted rookie tight end Carson Butler, who missed time this spring with a knee injury.

cvv84
07-30-2009, 12:28 PM
Packers sign LB Clay Matthews to a 5 year deal. WR Jamarko Simmons was released to make room for Matthews.

cvv84
08-13-2009, 09:33 AM
TE Tory Humphrey has been placed on injured reserve.

Stryker Sulak was signed to fill the roster spot. He's a 6'4" 251 lbs DE from Missouri who was a 6th round pick of the Raiders this year. He'll play LB in the Packers 3-4 defense.

Note: I'm going to completely update the depth chart later today now that the Packers have officially released their depth chart prior to the 1st preseason game.

AJHawk50
08-13-2009, 12:05 PM
TE Tory Humphrey has been placed on injured reserve.

Stryker Sulak was signed to fill the roster spot. He's a 6'4" 251 lbs DE from Missouri who was a 6th round pick of the Raiders this year. He'll play LB in the Packers 3-4 defense.

Note: I'm going to completely update the depth chart later today now that the Packers have officially released their depth chart prior to the 1st preseason game.
Go Mizzou! :P

cvv84
08-13-2009, 12:09 PM
Go Mizzou! :P

This is from this mornings Packers practice via blog:

tompelissero: Sulak is a load at 6-5, 251. He's still figuring out what he's supposed to be doing but he just bent Devin Frischknecht in half.

cvv84
08-14-2009, 04:49 PM
Raji has been officially signed.

http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2009/08/14/3/

ChezPower4
08-14-2009, 07:40 PM
Raji has been officially signed.

http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2009/08/14/3/

**** Yes!!!!!!!!

cvv84
08-19-2009, 09:07 AM
ROOKIE CONTRACTS

B.J. Raji, NT (first round), 5 years, $17.7 million. Signing bonus: $2.4 million. Option bonus (paid March 2010): $7 million. Total guaranteed: $17.7 million. Base salaries: $310,000 in '09, $562,500 in '10, $955,000 in '11, $1,347,500 in '12, $1,740,000 in '13, $2,132,500 in '14. Salary-cap number: $2.05 million

Clay Matthews, LB (first), 5 years, $9.925 million. Signing bonus: $800,000. Option bonus (paid March 2010): $3.72 million. Roster bonuses: $2.275 million. Base salaries: $310,000 in '09, $395,000 in '10, $660,000 in '11, $800,000 in '12 and $805,000 in '13. Cap number: $1.22 million

T.J. Lang, OL, (fourth), 4 years, $2,252,500. Signing bonus: $525,000. Base salaries: Yearly minimums ($310,000 in '09, $395,000 in '10, $480,000 in '11 and $565,000 in '12). Cap number: $441,250.

Quinn Johnson, FB (fifth), 4 years, $1,942,276. Signing bonus: $192,275. Base salaries: Yearly minimums. Cap number: $358,068.

Jamon Meredith, OT (fifth), 4 years, $1,922,500. Signing bonus: $172,500. Base salaries: Yearly minimums. Cap number: $353,125.

Jarius Wynn, DE (sixth), 4 years, $1,858,732. Signing bonus: $108,730. Base salaries: Yearly minimums. Cap number: $337,182.

Brandon Underwood, CB (sixth), 4 years, $1,852,200. Signing bonus: $102,200. Base salaries: Yearly minimums. Cap number: $335,550.

Brad Jones, LB (seventh), 4 years, $1,810,256. Signing bonus: $60,255. Base salaries: Yearly minimums. Cap number: $325,063.

cvv84
08-20-2009, 09:37 PM
Packers waived TE Tory Humphrey (broken forearm) with an injury settlement.

cvv84
08-25-2009, 01:48 PM
Packers informed C Duke Preston of his release. (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Source-Wells-staying-put-Pack-to-release-Preston.html)

cvv84
08-30-2009, 05:41 PM
Punter Durant Brooks, WR JaRon Harris, and LB Stryker Sulak have been cut.

Burger
08-31-2009, 12:16 AM
No way. I thought they were excused from practice.

cvv84
09-04-2009, 10:47 PM
The Packers are expected to make their cuts tomorrow but Dean Muhtadi and Dean Randolph have been told that they will be among the cuts. Muhtadi's agent expressed interest in signing to the practice squad.


***Also I know I said that I would update the list awhile ago but never got around to it. Once we get down to 53 I'll finish all the updates.

cvv84
09-05-2009, 12:10 PM
Kregg Lumpkin has been told that he will be released. (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Source-Packers-to-cut-running-back-Kregg-Lumpkin.html)

cvv84
09-05-2009, 02:27 PM
Cyril Obiozor's agent has been told that he will be released. Charlie Peprah
might be getting released with an injury settlement. He could 1st be placed on IR.

Also hearing some reports that Brandon Underwood has made the team.

cvv84
09-05-2009, 03:07 PM
The Ravens have traded DB Derrick Martin to the Packers. (http://twitter.com/RavensInsider/status/3784532679)

He was a former 6th round pick of theirs. He was arrested for drug possession and served a 1 game suspension since entering the league. The Ravens were trying to convert him to safety from CB.

Trevor Ford has also been cut. The news about Underwood making the team came from his agent. But with this trade with the Ravens you have to wonder if he'll stay for long.

So far cut are:

CB Trevor Ford
RB Kregg Lumpkin
LB Cyril Obiozor
DT Dean Muhtadi
OT Dean Randolph

That leaves us with 70 players so that means 17 more people need to be cut or placed on IR.

cvv84
09-05-2009, 03:49 PM
Multiple league sources tell the National Football Post that the Packers will waive QB Brian Brohm. (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Biggs-Sources-say-Packers-will-release-Brohm.html)

Wow. I mean yeah he didn't play as well but I thought he deserved to get another year to prove himself. This is what we got for trading Corey Williams??

Updated cuts list:

CB Trevor Ford
RB Kregg Lumpkin
LB Cyril Obiozor
DT Dean Muhtadi
OT Dean Randolph
QB Brian Brohm

That leaves us with 70 players, adding the addition of Derrick Martin, so that means 17 more people need to be cut or placed on IR.

BloodBrother
09-05-2009, 03:58 PM
it was still a great trade IMO. Getting a 2nd rounder for Williams was great, considering how poorly he has done in Cleveland and the money he is making

now, for the other part, what they drafted with that 2nd rounder, now that is looking bad, but at least Brohm didn't cost 39 million

PACKmanN
09-05-2009, 04:01 PM
I hope we don't cut him, I mean, if we gave up on Rodgers that early we wouldnt be the team we are now.

cvv84
09-05-2009, 04:03 PM
Just heard that Tony Moll was traded to the Ravens for Martin. (http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/blog/2009/09/ravens_acquisitions_and_cuts.html)

Best of luck Tony.

GB12
09-05-2009, 04:03 PM
The Ravens have traded DB Derrick Martin to the Packers. (http://twitter.com/RavensInsider/status/3784532679)
Why? I don't get that trade at all. He doesn't seem like he'd be worth even a seventh rounder. And on top of that it means we'll likely have to cut another CB. I'd much rather have both Pat Lee and Brandon Underwood than only one and Derrick Martin.

BloodBrother
09-05-2009, 04:04 PM
Packer Update is confirming that Brohm has indeed been released, but no official announcement yet


also, Packers traded Tony Moll to the Ravens in exchange for DB Derrick Martin

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/blog/2009/09/ravens_acquisitions_and_cuts.html


I will forever have a soft spot for the Ravens. I can't believe they were able to trade Moll for anything!

BloodBrother
09-05-2009, 04:05 PM
Why? I don't get that trade at all. He doesn't seem like he'd be worth even a seventh rounder. And on top of that it means we'll likely have to cut another CB. I'd much rather have both Pat Lee and Brandon Underwood than only one and Derrick Martin.

From the reports, Martin was having a great training camp/preseason with the Ravens...they just simply didn't have room for him on the roster. Harbaugh seemed to like him

he is also supposed to be very good on special teams. As far as Underwood/Lee go, one of both of them might be put on IR

cvv84
09-05-2009, 04:07 PM
Why? I don't get that trade at all. He doesn't seem like he'd be worth even a seventh rounder. And on top of that it means we'll likely have to cut another CB. I'd much rather have both Pat Lee and Brandon Underwood than only one and Derrick Martin.

I'd say both Martin and Moll were going to get cut. So instead of risking not being able to sign either guy they just deceided to make a trade.

I hope Underwood makes it. Lee could go to IR. Martin plays special teams. We could also keep 5 or 6 CBs because Blackmon and Lee suffered injuries. I guess we'll have to wait to see all the cuts.

GB12
09-05-2009, 04:08 PM
I hope we don't cut him, I mean, if we gave up on Rodgers that early we wouldnt be the team we are now.
That is a terrible comparison. Rodgers was nothing like Brohm. Rodgers showed a lot of potential, played well in preseason, and showed improvement. Brohm has looked lost and terrible. Rodgers was a decent option as a backup, while Brohm can't even beat out a 7th rounder. There are many other things wrong with that comparison, but you get the point.
Just heard that Tony Moll was traded to the Ravens for Martin. (http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/blog/2009/09/ravens_acquisitions_and_cuts.html)

Best of luck Tony.
Crap for crap trade. I still stand by my earlier post though. We wouldn't trade for him if we didn't intend on having him on our roster, and I really don't want to waste a spot on him.

cvv84
09-05-2009, 04:11 PM
Remember when there was talk about Rodgers going to NFL Europe? I just think its too early to give up on Brohm but at least we didn't draft him in the 1st round like TT said he was tempted too.

cvv84
09-05-2009, 04:12 PM
Rob Demovsky is reporting that a source is saying that Packers are going to keep 3 FBs. You have to be kidding me.

BloodBrother
09-05-2009, 04:16 PM
Hmmm, wonder if that hurts Sutton's chances of making the team..., you would think. Maybe they are planning on a trade of sorts

cvv84
09-05-2009, 04:19 PM
Hmmm, wonder if that hurts Sutton's chances of making the team..., you would think. Maybe they are planning on a trade of sorts

The Bengals were interested in Kuhn this past offseason. Reports are that DeShawn Wynn has made the team. No word on Sutton yet.

Its also official now, Brohm has been released.

Updated cuts list:

CB Trevor Ford
RB Kregg Lumpkin
LB Cyril Obiozor
DT Dean Muhtadi
OT Dean Randolph
QB Brian Brohm
DE Ronald Talley

PACKmanN
09-05-2009, 04:21 PM
That is a terrible comparison. Rodgers was nothing like Brohm. Rodgers showed a lot of potential, played well in preseason, and showed improvement. Brohm has looked lost and terrible. Rodgers was a decent option as a backup, while Brohm can't even beat out a 7th rounder. There are many other things wrong with that comparison, but you get the point.

Crap for crap trade. I still stand by my earlier post though. We wouldn't trade for him if we didn't intend on having him on our roster, and I really don't want to waste a spot on him.

I dont think there was, if any, improvement shown from Rodgers' first year to his second. He spent a lot of his time in Green Bay improving his game, but other then that there wasn't any improvement shown early. Now, in his 3rd year, he showed a lot of polished talent and improvement.

PACKmanN
09-05-2009, 04:22 PM
Rob Demovsky is reporting that a source is saying that Packers are going to keep 3 FBs. You have to be kidding me.
I said something about that in the 53 roster thread. I think we keep 3 FBs and 2 TEs.

GB12
09-05-2009, 04:24 PM
Rob Demovsky is reporting that a source is saying that Packers are going to keep 3 FBs. You have to be kidding me.
I don't think it's that bad. I didn't want to cut Kuhn or Hall. I would have let Johnson go, but I can see why they didn't want to lose him. Kuhn and Hall are huge contributers on special teams and I think Johnson has been in on some aswell. This could mean we only keep 2 TEs, and really there's no difference between 3 FBs and 2 TEs instead of 2 FBs and 3 TEs. It's also probably a matter of keeping the best 53 players.
Hmmm, wonder if that hurts Sutton's chances of making the team..., you would think. Maybe they are planning on a trade of sorts
Why would it. He should make it as the third back. Lumpkin has already been cut so it's just between him and DeShawn Wynn and I think Sutton is clearly the better option. With cutting Brohm we could also go with 4 RBs if we wanted.

cvv84
09-05-2009, 04:25 PM
I said something about that in the 53 roster thread. I think we keep 3 FBs and 2 TEs.

I could see 2 TEs and keeping Spencer Havner. But 3 FBs? I hope they're just stalling for a trade.

roughrider30
09-05-2009, 04:26 PM
The Bengals were interested in Kuhn this past offseason. Reports are that DeShawn Wynn has made the team. No word on Sutton yet.

Its also official now, Brohm has been released.

Updated cuts list:

CB Trevor Ford
RB Kregg Lumpkin
LB Cyril Obiozor
DT Dean Muhtadi
OT Dean Randolph
QB Brian Brohm
DE Ronald Talley

Wow, I'm really suprised about Brohm. I thought his last game was enough for him to earn to another chance. I do think its early for us to give up on him. Who's gonna be our 3rd QB then?

GB12
09-05-2009, 04:27 PM
The Bengals were interested in Kuhn this past offseason.
But not interested enough to make him an offer. If they didn't want him then they aren't going to give up something for him now.

cvv84
09-05-2009, 04:27 PM
The Packers have cut OT Andrew Hartline and OT Jamon Meredith has been rumored to have been cut as well.

Updated cuts list:

CB Trevor Ford
RB Kregg Lumpkin
LB Cyril Obiozor
DT Dean Muhtadi
OT Dean Randolph
QB Brian Brohm
DE Ronald Talley
OT Andrew Hartline
OT Jamon Meredith

PACKmanN
09-05-2009, 04:29 PM
I could see 2 TEs and keeping Spencer Havner. But 3 FBs? I hope they're just stalling for a trade.

not really. I think we use Hall in the HB role since Kuhn and Johnson are the better blockers out of the backfield, and Hall has the better hands.

GB12
09-05-2009, 04:29 PM
Wow, I'm really suprised about Brohm. I thought his last game was enough for him to earn to another chance. I do think its early for us to give up on him. Who's gonna be our 3rd QB then?
I'm sure we'll go with just Rodgers and Flynn. We've gone with only 2 QBs before with Favre and Rodgers. I think that is the ideal way to go anyway.

cvv84
09-05-2009, 04:31 PM
not really. I think we use Hall in the HB role since Kuhn and Johnson are the better blockers out of the backfield, and Hall has the better hands.

Hall and his 0 career carries? You don't take a career college LB and start handing him the ball in the NFL. Every time we ran with the FB it was with Kuhn.

Sutton has been released. Looks like the RBs are going to be Grant, Jackson, and Wynn.

Updated cuts list:

CB Trevor Ford
RB Kregg Lumpkin
LB Cyril Obiozor
DT Dean Muhtadi
OT Dean Randolph
QB Brian Brohm
DE Ronald Talley
OT Andrew Hartline
OT Jamon Meredith
RB Tyrell Sutton

BloodBrother
09-05-2009, 04:32 PM
I'm not too surprised by them keeping all 3 FB's. They obviously like Quinn's potential and he flashed some of that in preseason...and both Hall and Kuhn are very good on special teams


also, packers have reportedly cut Tyrell Sutton, but will try to sign him to the practice squad according to Tom Pelissero

PACKmanN
09-05-2009, 04:34 PM
Hall and his 0 career carries? You don't take a career college LB and start handing him the ball in the NFL. Every time we ran with the FB it was with Kuhn.
As a HB i meant a role that the Redskins are using with their TEs. And remember, we like to move our TEs a lot in the shotgun formation, and other formations and put them beside Grant, or Rodgers.

cvv84
09-05-2009, 04:34 PM
As a HB i meant a role that the Redskins are using with their TEs. And remember, we like to move our TEs a lot in the shotgun formation.

Ohhh ok, yeah possibly. They were working both Hall and Kuhn at TE late in training camp. I thought you were talking about using him at RB, my bad.

GB12
09-05-2009, 04:36 PM
Why would it. He should make it as the third back. Lumpkin has already been cut so it's just between him and DeShawn Wynn and I think Sutton is clearly the better option. With cutting Brohm we could also go with 4 RBs if we wanted.


Sutton has been released. Looks like the RBs are going to be Grant, Jackson, and Wynn.
Well I guess I was wrong on that. Really don't agree with it. I thought Sutton looked much better than Wynn.

BloodBrother
09-05-2009, 04:37 PM
I'm surprised by them apparently cutting Meredith. He has a lot of potential but is clearly raw.Maybe they will stash him on the practice squad, or try to anyway

BloodBrother
09-05-2009, 04:38 PM
Well I guess I was wrong on that. Really don't agree with it. I thought Sutton looked much better than Wynn.

Wynn's injury proneness worries me to...but I think what saved Wynn is that out of all the backs he's the most assignment sure and the best at picking up the blitzes

PACKmanN
09-05-2009, 04:42 PM
I'm surprised by them apparently cutting Meredith. He has a lot of potential but is clearly raw.Maybe they will stash him on the practice squad, or try to anyway

WHAT? so wait, who is our back up LT? Geno?

cvv84
09-05-2009, 04:43 PM
I'm surprised by them apparently cutting Meredith. He has a lot of potential but is clearly raw.Maybe they will stash him on the practice squad, or try to anyway

Same here. He didn't really stand out but he looked like a good developmental guy. Lets hope the Oline doesn't suffer any injuries this year because there will be alot of shuffling around if there is.

cvv84
09-05-2009, 04:44 PM
WHAT? so wait, who is our back up LT? Geno?

Colledge shifts to LT and T.J. Lang would play LG.

BloodBrother
09-05-2009, 04:44 PM
it's been confirmed that Meredith has been cut, along with Sutton and OG Andrew Hartline

also, just wanted to give some praise to cvv. Great thread, having all the players contracts, etc as well

PACKmanN
09-05-2009, 04:47 PM
Colledge shifts to LT and T.J. Lang would play LG.
I don't understand this move. Just cut another player. We need to keep as much of our linemen as we can.

cvv84
09-05-2009, 04:48 PM
it's been confirmed that Meredith has been cut, along with Sutton and OG Andrew Hartline

also, just wanted to give some praise to cvv. Great thread, having all the players contracts, etc as well

Thanks man. I'm going to get it fully updated by the end of the holiday weekend. I just figured this was a simple way to keep all the transactions and contracts in order.

GB12
09-05-2009, 04:49 PM
Damn, I thought Meredith would be a good developmental player. Obviously wouldn't have been any help this year, but he looked to be a nice project.

WHAT? so wait, who is our back up LT? Geno?Colledge shifts to LT and T.J. Lang would play LG.
Right, that would be the case even if we hadn't gotten rid of Moll and Meredith.

I'm a bit puzzled with who we're going to keep on the OL now. I thought one of those two would have made it. Is it possible we go with only 8 OL? We got Clifton, Colledge, Spitz, Sitton, Barbre, Wells, Giacomini, Lang as locks, but I don't think there's anyone else deserving of a roster spot.

BloodBrother
09-05-2009, 04:49 PM
O-line depth is worrisome, especially since Breno was nearly as bad as Moll

cvv84
09-05-2009, 04:50 PM
I don't understand this move. Just cut another player. We need to keep as much of our linemen as we can.

I know they're high on Evan Dietrich-Smith as he has made the team. Looks like they're putting more numbers on the defensive side of the ball this year. Spencer Havner has also made the team.

If you guys have a Twitter account I'd suggest following: tompelissero, RobDemovsky, and Greg_A_Bedard

Updated cuts list:

CB Trevor Ford
RB Kregg Lumpkin
LB Cyril Obiozor
DT Dean Muhtadi
OT Dean Randolph
QB Brian Brohm
DE Ronald Talley
OT Andrew Hartline
OT Jamon Meredith
RB Tyrell Sutton

cvv84
09-05-2009, 04:53 PM
Justin Harrell and Pat Lee to IR. Rob Demovsky poses the question of is this the end of road for Harrell as a Packer?

BloodBrother
09-05-2009, 04:55 PM
10 moves to go

PACKmanN
09-05-2009, 04:56 PM
I know they're high on Evan Dietrich-Smith as he has made the team. Looks like they're putting more numbers on the defensive side of the ball this year. Spencer Havner has also made the team.

If you guys have a Twitter account I'd suggest following: tompelissero, RobDemovsky, and Greg_A_Bedard

Updated cuts list:

CB Trevor Ford
RB Kregg Lumpkin
LB Cyril Obiozor
DT Dean Muhtadi
OT Dean Randolph
QB Brian Brohm
DE Ronald Talley
OT Andrew Hartline
OT Jamon Meredith
RB Tyrell Sutton
idk, i would rather put Evans, not a big name player, on the PS then taking my chances and trying it with Meredith. Also, If i had to pick Meredith or Evans, I would take Meredith. We already have Lang and Wells for both OGs spots.

GB12
09-05-2009, 04:57 PM
Justin Harrell and Pat Lee to IR.
And this is the point I thow in the towel and join in and the thousands of Packer fans that think Harrell is a bust.

Sucks that Pat Lee has had so many injury problems. I really liked him coming out, but he's well on his way to joining Harrell as a player who's career has been killed due to injuries.

I'm guessing we keep 6 corners. Woodson/Harris/Williams/Underwood/Martin/Blackmon

PACKmanN
09-05-2009, 04:59 PM
Wasn't Lee playing in the Cards game?

cvv84
09-05-2009, 04:59 PM
And this is the point I thow in the towel and join in and the thousands of Packer fans that think Harrell is a bust.

Sucks that Pat Lee has had so many injury problems. I really liked him coming out, but he's well on his way to joining Harrell as a player who's career has been killed due to injuries.

I'm guessing we keep 6 corners. Woodson/Harris/Williams/Underwood/Martin/Blackmon

I wonder how many safeties then. Collins/Bigby/Smith/Bush would be my guess. Reports are that Peprah will get released with an injury settlement and they were trying to trade Rouse.

RobDemovsky #Packers tried to trade Brohm but got no takers. Didn't try hard to move C Scott Wells.

Guess we might be able to retain Brohm afterall.

BloodBrother
09-05-2009, 05:00 PM
According to Rob Demovsky, the Pack tried to trade Brohm but weren't getting any takers...man, his value has sunk even below that of Tony Moll's.

cvv84
09-05-2009, 05:02 PM
Wasn't Lee playing in the Cards game?

No he didn't play at all.

GB12
09-05-2009, 05:04 PM
I wonder how many safeties then. Collins/Bigby/Smith/Bush would be my guess. Reports are that Peprah will get released with an injury settlement and they were trying to trade Rouse.


Guess we might be able to retain Brohm afterall.
I'd much rather keep Peprah or Rouse than Bush, but we're all aware of the weird fascination the team has with Bush for whatever reason. I don't see a point in keeping more than 4 safeties so I think you got it right. I have no problem letting Rouse go, I'd just rather get rid of Bush first. Collins/Bigby/Smith/Peprah is what I'd like to see.

cvv84
09-05-2009, 05:07 PM
9 more moves to go

CUT
CB Trevor Ford
RB Kregg Lumpkin
LB Cyril Obiozor
DT Dean Muhtadi
OT Dean Randolph
QB Brian Brohm
DE Ronald Talley
OT Andrew Hartline
OT Jamon Meredith
RB Tyrell Sutton
S Charlie Peprah

TRADES
OT Tony Moll traded to Ravens for CB Derrick Martin

IR
DT Justin Harrell
CB Pat Lee

cvv84
09-05-2009, 05:10 PM
I'd much rather keep Peprah or Rouse than Bush, but we're all aware of the weird fascination the team has with Bush for whatever reason. I don't see a point in keeping more than 4 safeties so I think you got it right. I have no problem letting Rouse go, I'd just rather get rid of Bush first. Collins/Bigby/Smith/Peprah is what I'd like to see.

I know Rouse is give and take, but it seems like he always makes a big game changing play at some point during the season. I thought the zone coverage would help him more this year but apparently not.

This just came accross too:

tompelissero The Packers are going to waive S Charlie Peprah (knee) as injured and negotiate an injury settlement.

BloodBrother
09-05-2009, 05:10 PM
Charlie Peprah waived as injured and will negotiate an injury settlement

PACKmanN
09-05-2009, 05:11 PM
shocked that only 1 D-linemen has been cut. Looks like we are giving Capers a lot of say in this. hahaha.

cvv84
09-05-2009, 05:12 PM
shocked that only 1 D-linemen has been cut. Looks like we are giving Capers a lot of say in this. hahaha.

Still 9 more moves to make. I guess they're worried though with the defense because of all the injuries last year.

BloodBrother
09-05-2009, 05:13 PM
With Peprah gone and Rouse on the block, it looks like we'll have another year of Bush LOL

BloodBrother
09-05-2009, 05:14 PM
tompelissero Other obvious cuts we haven't confirmed yet: Jake Allen, Kole Heckendorf, Alfred Malone, Evan Moore.

BloodBrother
09-05-2009, 05:16 PM
AJ Feeley was cut by the Eagles btw...could be a guy the Pack target for a backup QB spot. He knows the WCO

cvv84
09-05-2009, 05:18 PM
AJ Feeley was cut by the Eagles btw...could be a guy the Pack target for a backup QB spot. He knows the WCO

Interesting. The Patriots were interested in him too.

PACKmanN
09-05-2009, 05:22 PM
There were rumors of us wanting him last year too.

BloodBrother
09-05-2009, 05:22 PM
Jeff Garcia was also cut by Oakland. There are some decent veteran options out there

BloodBrother
09-05-2009, 05:23 PM
Not much Packer news right now, but Packer Update is reporting that Havner has made the team

PACKmanN
09-05-2009, 05:25 PM
FML...If we got rid of Meredith for Havner and Kuhn i would be upset.

BloodBrother
09-05-2009, 05:26 PM
AJ Feeley was cut by the Eagles btw...could be a guy the Pack target for a backup QB spot. He knows the WCO

scratch this, NFP is now reporting that Feeley will NOT be cut. Doh

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Biggs-Roster-exemption-for-Vick-creates-spot-for-Feeley.html

With the Philadelphia Eagles unable to pull off a trade for the veteran quarterback, they will instead keep him as a third quarterback on the roster as the NFL has granted the team a roster exemption for Michael Vick until he is eligible to return in Week 3, Jason La Canfora of the NFL Network reports.

so, the Eagles will have to make a decision on Feeley by Week 3 of the season

cvv84
09-05-2009, 05:28 PM
FML...If we got rid of Meredith for Havner and Kuhn i would be upset.

I like keeping Havner. He can play any LB position, be our #3 TE, plus he's a good special teamer. But then it makes no sense to me to keep 3 FBs. I think Kuhn will eventually be the odd man out but I had losing prospects this early.

jackalope
09-05-2009, 05:29 PM
Surprised to hear Brohm is getting cut. He's been very unimpressive, but I thought he'd get another year. Are we going to be able to add him to the practice squad?

GB12
09-05-2009, 05:35 PM
FML...If we got rid of Meredith for Havner and Kuhn i would be upset.
It's not that big of a deal. The problem here is that Meredith got hyped up way too much before the draft. Then everyone got into their minds that we got a huge steal and Meredith is some great prospect. There is a reason he last until the 5th, the is a reason he was cut, there is a reason he wasn't impressive in the preseason. He was not good enough. Good teams cut 5th round picks all the time. Meredith wouldn't have contributed at all this season, Kuhn and Havner will. I have no problem keeping two guys that we know will help us this year over keeping a guy who might help us in 2 or 3 years if we're lucky.

PACKmanN
09-05-2009, 05:36 PM
I like keeping Havner. He can play any LB position, be our #3 TE, plus he's a good special teamer. But then it makes no sense to me to keep 3 FBs. I think Kuhn will eventually be the odd man out but I had losing prospects this early.
LT depth, plus a guy who could replace Chad> how good you are on special teams.

cvv84
09-05-2009, 05:37 PM
Remember when ESPN analysts were talking about Brohm >>> Rodgers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta_ZmgaUbRE&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ebrianbrohmonline%2Ecom%2F&feature=player_embedded#t=132

GB12
09-05-2009, 05:38 PM
Surprised to hear Brohm is getting cut. He's been very unimpressive, but I thought he'd get another year. Are we going to be able to add him to the practice squad?
I believe he was inactive for at least 8 games, so if he clears waivers we can put him on the practice squad.

I'm really not sure on the chances of him clearing waivers. On one hand you'd think at least one team would put in a claim for a highly graded QB from last year's draft, but on the other hand no one was willing to give up even a 7th round pick for him.

BloodBrother
09-05-2009, 05:38 PM
The point is that Havner would contribute to the team this year, while Meredith would be inactive pretty much every week

there is still a shot he lands on the practice squad

GB12
09-05-2009, 05:43 PM
LT depth, plus a guy who could replace Chad> how good you are on special teams.
He wasn't much of LT depth. It would take a lot for him to see the field there. If Clifton went down Colledge would play LT and Wells would take the open spot. The chances of both Clifton and Colledge going down aren't too good, and if we had to play him there we'd be screwed. In fact if Clifton and Colledge did go down we'd probably sign a street free agent as a stop gap rather than play Meredith.

Meredith is a developmental player that needed a lot of time. I wouldn't have minded keeping him, but at the same time cutting him is no big deal. Again, if we are trying to win now going with 2 guys we know are going to help us is a better option than a guy who could possibly help us in 2 or 3 years if everything goes right.

BloodBrother
09-05-2009, 05:46 PM
Packer update speculating that Swain will make the final 53. Tom Pelissero reports that the Packers should release a list of all the moves at the top of the hour

GB12
09-05-2009, 05:49 PM
Packer update speculating that Swain will make the final 53. Tom Pelissero reports that the Packers should release a list of all the moves at the top of the hour
Wow, I think that is the most surprising news so far.

jackalope
09-05-2009, 05:50 PM
Packer update speculating that Swain will make the final 53. Tom Pelissero reports that the Packers should release a list of all the moves at the top of the hour

I hope that means we're keeping 6 receivers, which would be odd. The announcers Thursday were saying they might keep Swain over Ruvell Martin after he dropped the punt, which would be incredibly stupid.

cvv84
09-05-2009, 05:59 PM
I hope that means we're keeping 6 receivers, which would be odd. The announcers Thursday were saying they might keep Swain over Ruvell Martin after he dropped the punt, which would be incredibly stupid.

I like Swain but Martin serves more of a purpose to me. He's our emergency holder and emergency QB. I doubt we'd keep 6 WRs though.

GB12
09-05-2009, 06:02 PM
I'd rather keep Martin than Swain, but if we do go with Swain hopefully we'll at least be able to trade artin instead of cut him. He's better than most teams' 4th option and probably some #3s as well.

cvv84
09-05-2009, 06:05 PM
WOAH! Anthony Smith and Ruvell Martin CUT!!

Released
WR Jake Allen
QB Brian Brohm
CB Trevor Ford
OL Andrew Hartline
WR Kole Heckendorf
LB Danny Lansanah
RB Kregg Lumpkin
DL Alfred Malone
WR Ruvell Martin
OL Jamon Meredith
DL Dean Muhtadi
LB Cyril Obiozor
CB Joe Porter
OL Dane Randolph
DB Anthony Smith
RB Tyrell Sutton
DL Ronald Talley
DL Anthony Toribio.

IR
DL Justin Harrell
CB Pat Lee
TE Evan Moore
DB Charlie Peprah

jackalope
09-05-2009, 06:06 PM
**** that. Why would they cut Martin? Because Swain can play cornerback? That's a terrible move. Martin is a much better receiver.

GB12
09-05-2009, 06:08 PM
Holy ****. Do not like either of those. Martin was a great 5th WR, I don't see Swain being better. I can't understand cutting Smith at all. He looked very good in preseason and was easily the best safety behind Bigby and Collins. Now we have Rouse and Bush again? Great.

GB12
09-05-2009, 06:11 PM
Also I think it'd be a pretty safe bet that a team in our division will pick up Martin. Could add him to the former Packers the Vikings snatch up as they pair him back up with Favre.

jackalope
09-05-2009, 06:11 PM
I hate these cuts. Martin over Swain, Smith over Bush, and Sutton over Wynn are all terrible moves.

PACKmanN
09-05-2009, 06:15 PM
wow...I don't understand how Bush is a better option then Smith. I don't care about Martin, he is only the 5th WR, but I dont understand the Smith cut.

cvv84
09-05-2009, 06:16 PM
I hate these cuts. Martin over Swain, Smith over Bush, and Sutton over Wynn are all terrible moves.

Did you mean Wynn over Sutton?

The bright side is that it was our 5th WR, backup safety, and 3rd RB battles. Just shows how far we've came over the past few years.

I really dislike cutting Smith. He's arrogant but he knows the defense and made some big plays.

BloodBrother
09-05-2009, 06:32 PM
The only cut I'm really upset over is Smith. He isn't that good, but he was doing a decent job, certainly better than anything BUsh was doing. Man, does Bush have some deep Lambeau secrets that he's threatening to unveil if the Pack release him? Amazes me how this dude makes the 53 man roster seemingly every year despite crappy play

At least I know which position on the team I'll be worried about most, and that is S play. It's Collins and then nothing.

umphrey
09-05-2009, 06:46 PM
Ugh, don't like some of this.

Why cut Brian Brohm when he's finally coming around? Lost a ton of stock on that transaction. I don't have a problem with dumping a failed project. But wow that pick looks horrible now and we are now headed into the season with our only backup quarterback being an injured 7th rounder from last year who barely beat out the guy we just cut.

Why in the hell would you keep 3 fullbacks? Do they really plan on using them all on the field at the same time? Kuhn and Hall are almost the same player and they are a dime a dozen in the NFL. Why stack that position when it means cutting a solid RB when we are having injury problems at that position?

I'm OK with Swain over Martin. Rodgers stares down Martin sometimes when he's on the field. Plus Swain fits our personnel better than Martin.


How long until the players on IR are eligible to play? Please tell me they aren't done for the year already, because then we might as well just cut Harrell.

cvv84
09-05-2009, 06:54 PM
How long until the players on IR are eligible to play? Please tell me they aren't done for the year already, because then we might as well just cut Harrell.

IR is done for the season. The only way anyone could play is if they were on the PUP.

umphrey
09-05-2009, 07:07 PM
I'm still fuming over keeping 3 fullbacks. There are so many better players we could have kept in favor of any one of those 3.

I thought Pat Lee could contribute to the team this year. I thought he looked good and might even return some kicks.

GB12
09-05-2009, 07:18 PM
Here are the boarderline players that did make the team:

Brett Swain
Jarrett Bush
Brandon Underwood
Aaron Rouse
Spencer Havner
Brad Jones
Evan Dietrich-Smith
Jarius Wynn
Derrick Martin

cvv84
09-05-2009, 07:22 PM
Here are the boarderline players that did make the team:

Brett Swain
Jarrett Bush
Brandon Underwood
Aaron Rouse
Spencer Havner
Brad Jones
Evan Dietrich-Smith
Jarius Wynn
Derrick Martin

Havner and Wynn were locks in my book. Only real suprise on this list is Swain. He's improved but Martin has held off numerous guys in the past.

GB12
09-05-2009, 07:24 PM
Havner and Wynn were locks in my book. Only real suprise on this list is Swain. He's improved but Martin has held off numerous guys in the past.
It wasn't supposed to be surprises necessarily, just guys who were on the fence. What made me make the list is that I just realized that Brad Jones made the team.

PACKmanN
09-05-2009, 07:26 PM
so we are going to keep 3 back up OGs?

BloodBrother
09-05-2009, 07:28 PM
Keep in mind that guys who are on the roster by Week 1 gets his whole salary regardless of what happens during the season. Guys who sign during Week 2 do not have that protection, so I'd expect some new guys around that time

The Packers really want to improve their ST play, which explains why Havner and both of Kuhn/Hall made the team

cvv84
09-05-2009, 07:31 PM
so we are going to keep 3 back up OGs?

Alot of our guys can play guard. Colledge and Sitton start, Lang and Dietrich-Smith will be the backups, and Spitz/Wells/Barbre can play guard if it gets to that point.

Practice squad should be announced tomorrow.

It wasn't supposed to be surprises necessarily, just guys who were on the fence. What made me make the list is that I just realized that Brad Jones made the team.

Well then I guess those 2 weren't on the fence for me. Wynn has looked really good in the preason and once Havner picked up TE he was locked in. I'm a little suprised that Jones in on the team but we're going to pick someone up and some of these guys will still end up being cut.

cvv84
09-05-2009, 08:17 PM
I finished updating the roster. Some contract details still aren't available but I'll get them up as soon as they become available. I think teams can start signing players to the practice squad tomorrow so stay tuned for more additions.

Smokey
09-05-2009, 10:17 PM
Colledge shifts to LT and T.J. Lang would play LG.

MOre likely I think would be Colledge shifting to LT, Spitz shifting to LG, & Wells taking C.

Packystan
09-05-2009, 11:01 PM
I like that they kept 3 FB's. I think having two seasoned vets, to go along with a young talented guy will only benefit the run game as the season stretches. Plus both Kuhn and Hall are both reliable in special teams.

Definatley was surprised with the Smith cut. Thought he showed enough ability during the preseason to sure up a spot, especially with Rouse and Peprah's inuries, and Bigby's inefective play. Hopefully Derrick Martin can step in and show some promise coming over from Baltimore's 3-4 scheme.

To me the cutting of Martin stings simply because I think he'll get a good look from teams in the division, specifically the Bears. I don't think Martin got cut because Swain outperformed him, I think it's because the coaches were salivating on being able to push Jermichael Finley out wide once he matured, inevitably leaving Martin as the odd man out in the Big 5. Martin could easily be the Bears' number 3, or could be reunited with BrINT in Minny. I think keeping Swain was more of a ST move than anything. I doubt he gets much PT on offense.

I didn't want them to cut Sutton purely because of his good vision, and being able to make guys miss in the hole, but at the same time I understand why the move was made. Wynn gives the Packers more stability at the position if Grant were to go down. Although he hasn't shown much during the preseason, his bloking ablity was far superior to Sutton's, and is viewed as more of an asset in goaline/short yardage situations. Lumpkin couldn't be trusted because of his fumbling problems, period.

Overall, I'm pretty happy with the way things shaped up. I think the team overall has decent depth. Still waiting to see when they sign a veteran backup QB, and I'm excited to see Finley in the Big 5. He will prove to be a major target for Aaron this year. Cant wait till gameday. :)

Whistler6
09-06-2009, 11:30 AM
I like Brohm, but I'm glad TT cut him. The practice squad has his name all over it. It shows he's not willing to sit around and wait for players to develop. I guess the word would be urgency?

Idk, I'm not as bummed about the cuts as I thought I would be...Except both free agents TT signed (Preston, A. Smith) were cut. Big offseason haha.

cvv84
09-06-2009, 12:17 PM
Kregg Lumpkin has been added to the practice squad.

BloodBrother
09-06-2009, 12:27 PM
Also, now both Schefter and Glazer are reporting that the Eagles will cut Feeley later today. So, some quality backups available if the Pack decide to go that route

Also, with Lumpkin on the PS...looks like there is no chance for Sutton on being on the team

BloodBrother
09-06-2009, 12:53 PM
Sutton was claimed by the Panthers. Ronald Talley DE has been re-signed to the practice squad

UPDATE II: RB Tyrell Sutton has been claimed on waivers by the Carolina Panthers, his agent, Alonzo Shavers said. The Packers had offered Sutton a practice squad contract if he cleared.

jackalope
09-06-2009, 12:55 PM
To me the cutting of Martin stings simply because I think he'll get a good look from teams in the division, specifically the Bears. I don't think Martin got cut because Swain outperformed him, I think it's because the coaches were salivating on being able to push Jermichael Finley out wide once he matured, inevitably leaving Martin as the odd man out in the Big 5. Martin could easily be the Bears' number 3, or could be reunited with BrINT in Minny. I think keeping Swain was more of a ST move than anything. I doubt he gets much PT on offense.


You raise a good point about Finley. Martin may not have been included in the Big 5 this year due to Finley, which gives a little more reasoning to the move. I still don't like it though. I see Martin as a much better receiver than Swain. If I were Chicago, I'd pick him up and start him.

BloodBrother
09-06-2009, 12:57 PM
UPDATE: LB Cyril Obiozor cleared waivers and has been signed to the Packers' practice squad as well. He had a chance to sign a practice squad deal with a team that had fewer linebackers on the 53-man roster, but he chose the Packers, his agent, Ian Greengross, said.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/57607747.html


Good to hear. He was having a good beginning of camp but fizzled a bit at the end. Not a bad project to keep. Brohm also has cleared Waivers and is talking with other clubs. Meredith is considering an offer to join either the Packers or Bucs PS as well.

confirmed list of guys currently on the PS

Practice Squad

RB Kregg Lumpkin
DE Ronald Talley
LB Cyril Obiozor

Boston
09-06-2009, 01:53 PM
We better have one of the best ST units in the league, because a lot of these moves don't make much sense.

BloodBrother
09-06-2009, 01:56 PM
Brian Brohm is going to sign to the packers PS, according to a league source - via Tom Pelissero on twitter

tompelissero QB Brian Brohm is re-signing with the #Packers practice squad, according to a league source.

Whistler6
09-06-2009, 01:58 PM
Brian Brohm is going to sign to the packers PS, according to a league source - via Tom Pelissero on twitter

baby steps Brian, baby steps.

BloodBrother
09-06-2009, 01:59 PM
Practice Squad is set. Here they are...

Practice Squad

WR Jake Allen
QB Brian Brohm
CB Trevor Ford
LB Cyril Obiozor
RB Kregg Lumpkin
OT Jamon Meredith
DE Ronald Talley
NT Anthony Toribio

BloodBrother
09-06-2009, 02:03 PM
Great to see them get Meredith back. He's talented, but raw. Also good to see Brohm back, despite how he's looked. Jake Allen, Obi and Ford are also some nice projects to work with.

BloodBrother
09-06-2009, 02:08 PM
Ted Thompson presser highlights


- Said Special Teams was the deciding factor regarding Swain/Ruvell

- Liked Derrick Martin(newly acquired DB from Baltimore) Over Anthony Smith because of his versatility

- Packers and Harrell to commit to 6-10 months of intense rehab and medication, to get his back right. Not giving up on him yet

- Kept 3 fullbacks because they all earned a spot on the team. Thinks Quinn Johnson can be a "special player."

- Keeping all 3 FB's factored into decision regarding Sutton -it's a numbers game, just didn't have room. Thompson wishes him well

- On depth at CB: Reasonably optimistic that guys will recover from injuries. That played into overall roster of adding D. Martin.


Also, No successful waiver claims for the Packers. So, as of now, it looks like this will be the 53 they have through Week 1

And Tom Pelissero chimes in with one more thing regarding Brohm

tompelissero According to a source, Brohm drew interest from several teams, but he didn't want to start over in a new offensive system at this stage.

GB12
09-06-2009, 02:54 PM
Some of that worked out great. We get to keep Brohm and Meredith without wasting a roster spot on a player who wouldn't contribute at all. Too bad Sutton didn't clear as well, but 2 out of 3 is very nice.

cvv84
09-06-2009, 05:55 PM
Practice Squad is set. Here they are...

Practice Squad

WR Jake Allen
QB Brian Brohm
CB Trevor Ford
LB Cyril Obiozor
RB Kregg Lumpkin
OT Jamon Meredith
DE Ronald Talley
NT Anthony Toribio

Very nice. We got to keep Brohm and Meredith along with some other standouts like Allen and Obiozor. I still think that Brad Jones and Brandon Underwood should be looking over their shoulders though.

jackalope
09-06-2009, 08:18 PM
Considering we were able to keep Brohm on the PS, cutting him looks like a really good move. Completely losing Sutton sucks. I'd definitely take him over Wynn.

cvv84
09-06-2009, 09:36 PM
I like Sutton but lets be realistic, he went undrafted and at best he was going to be our 3rd RB. Last year we barely used Brandon Jackson and the Packers have already stated that Grant will get the lions share of the carries again this year. They tried Sutton as a kick returner and didn't like him there. Wynn also has the advantage of being a TT draft pick.

jackalope
09-06-2009, 09:48 PM
I like Sutton but lets be realistic, he went undrafted and at best he was going to be our 3rd RB. Last year we barely used Brandon Jackson and the Packers have already stated that Grant will get the lions share of the carries again this year. They tried Sutton as a kick returner and didn't like him there. Wynn also has the advantage of being a TT draft pick.

Obviously the players getting cut are going to be the more trivial positions, but that doesn't make them irrelevant. Our 3rd runningback will still get a couple of touches a game, and I'd much rather see Sutton getting those. Sutton averaged 4.8 yards this preseason to Wynn's 2.9. Wynn does nothing for me. He tiptoes into a group of people and falls forward. I also don't think being a TT pick helped him, since they cut Wynn to keep Lumpkin last season.

cvv84
09-06-2009, 09:57 PM
Obviously the players getting cut are going to be the more trivial positions, but that doesn't make them irrelevant. Our 3rd runningback will still get a couple of touches a game, and I'd much rather see Sutton getting those. Sutton averaged 4.8 yards this preseason to Wynn's 2.9. Wynn does nothing for me. He tiptoes into a group of people and falls forward. I also don't think being a TT pick helped him, since they cut Wynn to keep Lumpkin last season.

Our #3 RBs last year barely touched the ball. When Wynn has been in on games that count he's performed. Who cares if Sutton tore up the Browns and Bills. Its the preseason. Wynn can actually return kicks if needed and he's always one of the players that the coaches singled out as improving each year. He's not a stud but he produces when it counts.

BloodBrother
09-07-2009, 07:51 AM
The reason why Wynn was kept is because of his blocking ability, folks. He is the best RB on the team regarding this, and the most important thing on this offense, or any offense, is protecting the QB. Sutton offered very little in this regard, due to his height and probably moreso due to him being a rookie who is still learnign the system

They did want to bring Sutton back, as they were planning on offering him a spot on the PS if he cleared waivers, but he did not.

cvv84
09-07-2009, 12:37 PM
The reason why Wynn was kept is because of his blocking ability, folks. He is the best RB on the team regarding this, and the most important thing on this offense, or any offense, is protecting the QB. Sutton offered very little in this regard, due to his height and probably moreso due to him being a rookie who is still learnign the system

They did want to bring Sutton back, as they were planning on offering him a spot on the PS if he cleared waivers, but he did not.

Wynn is probably the worst blocker out of our 3 RB if you ask me. That Browns game he missed his assignment completely and luckily the defender held up on Rodgers.

cvv84
09-07-2009, 06:35 PM
TE Evan Moore have been waived with injury settlement.

cvv84
09-11-2009, 12:43 PM
DB Charlie Peprah waived with injury settlement