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TacticaLion
03-09-2007, 09:27 AM
http://www.mlive.com/lions/weblog/

Friday, March 09, 2007

Will Lions draft Calvin Johnson if Curtis signs elsewhere?
There were several questions regarding Kevin Curtis and whether the Lions might be playing hardball in negotiations because they're reconsidering the possibility of drafting Calvin Johnson with the second overall pick.

At this point, I still believe the Lions are very interested in signing Curtis, but this thing gets stranger by the minute. Now there are reports that Curtis wants to play close to the West Coast ... but then he visits two of the most eastern teams in the country -- the New York Giants and Philadelphia Eagles.

If Curtis signs with Detroit, Johnson is clearly off the table. If Curtis doesn't sign, I still believe he's a longshot to get drafted by the Lions. First, he might not be there at No. 2. Looking at the bigger picture, though, the Lions believe they must improve their defense and that's why a trade down is so appealing. It's not just to acquire more draft picks, but to get in a range where some guys they really like -- Gaines Adams and Patrick Willis -- become more of an option.

Dgursk: "1-3 in free agency"? lets be real. why over pay for a back up WR? Look at the players the Lions are targeting, they are not make it or break it players on whether the Lions win 4 games next season or win 6. So, I think we need a little bit more perspective when we say that the front office has to do a better job for the coaching staff. All the players the front office brought in were at the request of the coaches. We know millen had no idea who Dewayne White was prior to 3 weeks ago, because none of us did (except marinelli and barry. The problem the front office has is that they are not maximizing their potential in free agency because they are only interested in who martz or marinelli think is worth bringing in.

Tom Kowalski: You can quibble all you want about whether their top three free agent targets are worth it or not. My point is that THEY were the ones who targeted these guys and it's possible they'll only get one of the three. That's not very good. There's nothing wrong with having a Plan B, but it'd be nice to see Plan A work out once in awhile.

Tim: What is on the horizon with Shaun Rogers? Will he stay or will he go?

Tom Kowalski: This question comes up all the time and I'm not really sure why. Shaun Rogers isn't going anywhere. Would he prefer to play somewhere else? Probably. Is he going to? Absolutely not.

Steve: Did the Lions ever approach Washington about trading Bly? The deal that Denver is looking at with Betts and Springs seems like it would fit Detroit a lot better than what they did with Denver, especially considering who's available at #2 in the draft.

Tom Kowalski: Yes, the Lions were in deep talks with the Redskins but didn't like what they were getting back. I think the Lions were looking at the best team possible, not the best deal as it reflects the draft. The reason for that is because everything can change drastically before the draft arrives. Again, I think the Lions will trade down and then they have many more options.

Jeremy: I am a former Michigan resident (Caro) and now live in Oklahoma. I am a life long Lions fan and I am puzled as to why the Lions wouldn't take Adrian Peterson with the 2nd pick in the draft? Where am I missing the boat on this guy? I have watched him for the past three years run around and over opposing players. I understand the importance of an offensive linemen, however, isn't this guy a "cant miss" player?

Tom Kowalski: I think the Lions would agree with your assessment that Peterson is going to be a terrific player. At this point, I wouldn't rule anything out (those Tatum Bell rumors won't go away), but I see the Lions taking their changes with Kevin Jones and Bell (and whoever else they can pick up). The Lions have more needs, especially defensively, and they want to address those in the first round.

Interesting. It sounds as if they WILL trade down... (and for Willis/Adams)... which is outstanding. SRogers? Not going anywhere... and, after a great year, he may not want to. CJ? Probably not. AP? Probably not.

Good read.

toonsterwu
03-09-2007, 09:32 AM
Well, if they want Gaines Adams, they'll likely have to stay within the top 5. Patrick Willis, they could deal down much further, but due to the cost of a deal, it makes it almost unlikely that any team from Patrick Willis' grade range would move up the 2nd overall spot. But who knows.

Aard
03-09-2007, 10:59 AM
Well, if they want Gaines Adams, they'll likely have to stay within the top 5. Patrick Willis, they could deal down much further, but due to the cost of a deal, it makes it almost unlikely that any team from Patrick Willis' grade range would move up the 2nd overall spot. But who knows.

If the Lions can trade down to Arizona's five spot they can get Gaines Adams there, and use a combination of picks to trade back up into the range where they can add Willis...yes? Or would it cost too much to move back up into the first round? (I'm thinking they could spend one of their second round picks -- assuming we get it from the Cards -- and either a third round pick or a bundle of Day Two picks to move up to somewhere around selection #10-14 in the first round.)

We'd still have a second round pick left to add Joe Staley or Tony Ugoh for the O-line, or Drew Stanton.

TacticaLion
03-09-2007, 12:17 PM
If the Lions can trade down to Arizona's five spot they can get Gaines Adams there, and use a combination of picks to trade back up into the range where they can add Willis...yes? Or would it cost too much to move back up into the first round? (I'm thinking they could spend one of their second round picks -- assuming we get it from the Cards -- and either a third round pick or a bundle of Day Two picks to move up to somewhere around selection #10-14 in the first round.)

We'd still have a second round pick left to add Joe Staley or Tony Ugoh for the O-line, or Drew Stanton.I've thought about that (moving back up), but I don't think the coaches will want to spend that many picks to move back up. This is also a very deep DE class, which means they could trade down, draft Willis, then draft a pass-rushing DE AND Stanton in round 2. And, as previously said, they like Bazuin, and he'll be there in round 3.

Drafting GAdams AND PWillis would be incredible... but I think it'd be hard to pull it off. (Although, you're right... a draft of GAdams - PWillis - DStanton - ***3rd Rd CB*** would be incredible. Hmm...)

Xiomera
03-09-2007, 12:54 PM
Anyone think Detroit should just sign Shaun McDonald instead of Curtis? He isn't much different and will cost considerably less. We did well enough with Roy and Furrey last year, that we could get by with them + McDonald again this year, and we could still take CJ if we really wanted to. At the very least, it would increase the value of #2 if teams think we could legitimatly select CJ.

TacticaLion
03-09-2007, 12:58 PM
Anyone think Detroit should just sign Shaun McDonald instead of Curtis? He isn't much different and will cost considerably less. We did well enough with Roy and Furrey last year, that we could get by with them + McDonald again this year, and we could still take CJ if we really wanted to. At the very least, it would increase the value of #2 if teams think we could legitimatly select CJ.Three solid points...

1.) He'll cost less
2.) He's a very similar player
3.) It'll increase the value of the #2 pick

I agree. He knows the system and is a speed receiver. We sign him, save cap space, still get the player...

Anyone know the status of McDonald?

Aard
03-09-2007, 12:58 PM
It's the depth in this year's draft at the DE position that keeps me from wholeheartedly embracing the Gaines Adams pick. He's the best pure pass rusher available, and that's what the Lions need, but I'd almost rather see them spend two later picks to fill the need.

And (IMO) if the Lions are set on Gaines Adams in the first round, a trade down with Arizona seems mandatory -- even if they don't get comparable value (i.e., more than just the Cards' pick in round 2). Adams will be there at 1.05, and Detroit "gains" (pun intended) the extra second-round pick. A no-brainer.

TacticaLion
03-09-2007, 01:01 PM
It's the depth in this year's draft at the DE position that keeps me from wholeheartedly embracing the Gaines Adams pick. He's the best pure pass rusher available, and that's what the Lions need, but I'd almost rather see them spend two later picks to fill the need.

And (IMO) if the Lions are set on Gaines Adams in the first round, a trade down with Arizona seems mandatory -- even if they don't get comparable value (i.e., more than just the Cards' pick in round 2). Adams will be there at 1.05, and Detroit "gains" (pun intended) the extra second-round pick. A no-brainer.

I agree about the trade down... and have been saying it for quite a while. If we really want a player, and know he'll be there later in the draft, why not trade down for ANYTHING. Sure, if we can get great picks and "even value", then we need to take it. But, any extra pick is an extra pick... and it's worth it.

Xiomera
03-09-2007, 02:07 PM
It's the depth in this year's draft at the DE position that keeps me from wholeheartedly embracing the Gaines Adams pick. He's the best pure pass rusher available, and that's what the Lions need, but I'd almost rather see them spend two later picks to fill the need.

And (IMO) if the Lions are set on Gaines Adams in the first round, a trade down with Arizona seems mandatory -- even if they don't get comparable value (i.e., more than just the Cards' pick in round 2). Adams will be there at 1.05, and Detroit "gains" (pun intended) the extra second-round pick. A no-brainer.

I agree here completely. I don't necessarily "trust" Gaines Adams not to be different from Kalimba, and considering the DE depth, I might prefer to go in a different direction. I really like the idea of taking Bazuin in the third round. In fact, if the Lions don't take Gaines, then I would like them to draft TWO defensive ends this year in later rounds. I want Detroit to use all of their 5th rounders.

Maybe Next Year Millen2
03-09-2007, 02:14 PM
Yeah I'm a little unsure of Gaines Adams given his small size. We already have two smallish DEs in White and Kalimba. Hopefully, one of them can actually get to the QB next year. We need a base Defensive End who is good at stopping the run and also can get pressure on the Quarterback. I may be leaning more towards Jamaal Anderson depending on his pro day. Two D-Ends later on is a good idea as well if not in Round 1.

Xiomera
03-09-2007, 02:21 PM
Yeah I'm a little unsure of Gaines Adams given his small size. We already have two smallish DEs in White and Kalimba. Hopefully, one of them can actually get to the QB next year. We need a base Defensive End who is good at stopping the run and also can get pressure on the Quarterback. I may be leaning more towards Jamaal Anderson depending on his pro day. Two D-Ends later on is a good idea as well if not in Round 1.

I am starting to like Adam Carriker more than Gaines, but #5 is a tad bit too high for him.

But coming away with DE's Dan Bazuin and Jay Moore is every bit as good as taking Gaines Adams in the first.

Aard
03-09-2007, 02:45 PM
From the nfldraftcountdown Rankings pages:

Gaines Adams

Strengths:
An outstanding athlete...Extremely quick and agile with very good speed...Has a tremendous first step and a great burst to close...Has very long arms and uses his hands well...Has the frame to get bigger and develop physically...Looks fluid when dropping into coverage...A terror in opponents backfields and just seems to have a knack for getting to the quarterback...Productive and disruptive...Versatile and also has the ability to play outside linebacker for a 3-4 team at the pro level.

Weaknesses:
Does not have the ideal bulk you look for and needs to add some weight...Does not play the run nearly as well as he does the pass...Needs to get stronger...Can play with better pad level and leverage...Struggles when blockers are able to lock on...Might be a bit of a DE / OLB 'tweener...Becomes somewhat one-dimensional at times...Will get overly aggressive and run himself out of plays...Intelligence???

Notes:
Played eight-man football in high school and then spent a year at Fork Union Prep before coming to Clemson and redshirting in 2002...Seriously considered coming out after his junior season but was given a very conservative grade by the NFL's underclassmen advisory panel and chose to go back to school...Has been as good as any defensive end in the nation the past two years...Top natural pass rusher.

...Intelligence???

:(

Does that word in the Weaknesses category bother anyone else? Especially with the three question marks behind it? I know you want physical defensive players who can flat-out play without having to overanalyze a situation, but this one word has left me wondering and worrying for the past ten weeks. (I've probably read Adams' NFLDC bio ten times in that span.)

TacticaLion
03-09-2007, 02:50 PM
From the nfldraftcountdown Rankings pages:



...Intelligence???

:(

Does that word in the Weaknesses category bother anyone else? Especially with the three question marks behind it? I know you want physical defensive players who can flat-out play without having to overanalyze a situation, but this one word has left me wondering and worrying for the past ten weeks. (I've probably read Adams' NFLDC bio ten times in that span.)Tis a scary word... especially with the "???"'s.

I'd look more at the player and potential and less at scores and such, but you need someone that can understand the defense.

If we COULD take Willis and Adams, i'd take it. But, if we land Willis, fill holes in round 2 and draft Bazuin, i'd be just as happy (if not more happy).

Goddamn draft... I wish it was tomorrow.

Maybe Next Year Millen2
03-09-2007, 03:06 PM
http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2007/adams_gaines

Here you go Aard: A little more in depth report on Gaines Adams. Compares to Leonard Little per NFl.com's report. Ideally, Adams is an edge rusher in the Cover 2 scheme. The problem is we have 2 edge rushers already with Kalimba and White. We need a good base end for run support, unless Shaun Rogers and Redding can reek havoc by themselves against the run. With no MLB right now, that may be difficult.

Xiomera
03-09-2007, 03:17 PM
Adam Carriker is the type of DE we need. We need a DE to play first and second down that is versatile (pass rush and run support). Not saying we should draft him, but I am starting to think he is a better choice than Adams. At the very least, I think he has less of a bust factor.

Maybe Next Year Millen2
03-09-2007, 03:24 PM
Adam Carriker is the type of DE we need. We need a DE to play first and second down that is versatile (pass rush and run support). Not saying we should draft him, but I am starting to think he is a better choice than Adams. At the very least, I think he has less of a bust factor.


I agee with that. Carriker seems like he would be great against the run. To get him though, I would think we would need one large trade down, which is unlikely or two trade downs, which is very unlikely. Or one trade down and reach for him. I don't like reaches though.

When is Arkansas's pro day? I wish Anderson would have worked out at the combine. Anderson played Right End in college, which is typically your base end. I think Anderson would work at Right End with one trade down if we knew more about him. I wish juniors could play in the Senior Bowl. Change the name to All-Star bowl. Right now Anderson is risky too with only one good year of production in college.

Xiomera
03-09-2007, 03:26 PM
I agee with that. Carriker seems like he would be great against the run. To get him though, I would think we would need one large trade down, which is unlikely or two trade downs, which is very unlikely. Or one trade down and reach for him. I don't like reaches though.

Well, we'd have to remain in the top ten. Miami, San Francisco, and Pittsburgh are all threats to take him, as well as Washington if they manage to deal down a bit (as reported).

Xiomera
03-09-2007, 03:32 PM
http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2007/adams_gaines

Here you go Aard: A little more in depth report on Gaines Adams. Compares to Leonard Little per NFl.com's report. Ideally, Adams is an edge rusher in the Cover 2 scheme. The problem is we have 2 edge rushers already with Kalimba and White. We need a good base end for run support, unless Shaun Rogers and Redding can reek havoc by themselves against the run. With no MLB right now, that may be difficult.

Also, an interview w/ Adams . . .

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft07/news/story?id=2791997

Maybe Next Year Millen2
03-09-2007, 03:35 PM
Well, we'd have to remain in the top ten. Miami, San Francisco, and Pittsburgh are all threats to take him, as well as Washington if they manage to deal down a bit (as reported).

Wow, Carriker is ranked higher than I thought he was. Then a trade with Houston/Miami would be the only way. If Marinelli really liked him and thought he was better than Anderson/Adams I wouldn't be opposed to it provided we got good value in the trade with Houston.

Houston probably wouldn't have to trade that high with us if they wanted Quinn, unless they wanted Joe Thomas. However, I think the Texans just signed Jordan Black and are high on Charles Spencer at LT, so that is unlikely. I don't see Miami trading up that far either.

TacticaLion
03-09-2007, 06:31 PM
All of this talk about DEs... what about Victor Abiamiri in round 2 (or any other 2nd round DEs)?

Someone that isn't just a pass-rusher, but can play every down.

Xiomera
03-09-2007, 07:20 PM
All of this talk about DEs... what about Victor Abiamiri in round 2 (or any other 2nd round DEs)?

Someone that isn't just a pass-rusher, but can play every down.
I like Abiamiri too. Scotty, Wingy, and I wanted him in the forum mock.

TacticaLion
03-09-2007, 07:26 PM
I like Abiamiri too. Scotty, Wingy, and I wanted him in the forum mock.Hehe... so did I. I actually messaged someone, asking them to take him with their second 2nd round pick (or to trade back up and grab him).

If we trade down, we could take Willis, Stanton, Abiamiri, Bazuin and *Best CB Available* in the first 3 rounds.

That would be quite a draft.

Mythos
03-09-2007, 07:30 PM
Abiamiri over Spencer?

Xiomera
03-09-2007, 08:13 PM
Hehe... so did I. I actually messaged someone, asking them to take him with their second 2nd round pick (or to trade back up and grab him).

If we trade down, we could take Willis, Stanton, Abiamiri, Bazuin and *Best CB Available* in the first 3 rounds.

That would be quite a draft.

Nah, I'd rather get Blalock than Abiamiri if we are gonna get Bazuin at 66. I like the idea of adding two DE's in the draft, but not both on the first day.

TacticaLion
03-09-2007, 08:57 PM
Nah, I'd rather get Blalock than Abiamiri if we are gonna get Bazuin at 66. I like the idea of adding two DE's in the draft, but not both on the first day.Interesting.

It would be nice to add a stud OG... someone to solidify the position for years. But, i'd rather use that pick at CB if we take Willis in round 1 and Bazuin in round 3.

Scotty D
03-09-2007, 11:18 PM
Adam Carriker is the type of DE we need. We need a DE to play first and second down that is versatile (pass rush and run support). Not saying we should draft him, but I am starting to think he is a better choice than Adams. At the very least, I think he has less of a bust factor.

I'd love Carriker on the Lions, and glad to see more people jump on the bandwagon.

Xiomera
03-10-2007, 04:33 PM
http://www.mlive.com/lions/weblog/index.ssf?/mtlogs/mlive_lions/archives/2007_03.html#243511 (http://www.mlive.com/lions/weblog/index.ssf?/mtlogs/mlive_lions/archives/2007_03.html#243511)

Saturday, March 10, 2007http://www.mlive.com/images/spacer.gifhttp://www.mlive.com/images/spacer.gif
Answering your e-mails: What's going on at cornerback?
Tim: What will the Lion's approach be toward the CB position in the upcoming months?

Tom Kowalski: I think you'll see a few more cornerbacks making visits next week, but don't assume they're going to be signed. The Lions aren't going to overpay for a cornerback they don't believe is worth it. And, again, I believe cornerback is a position that gets hit hard in the draft. The Lions need cornerbacks, no question, but they refuse to panic at this stage. They fully understand their fans want all these holes filled yesterday, but they're still going to be patient.

DJ: Why don't the Lions go after CB Jason David from Indy. I know he is a RFA, but the compensation level is only a 4th round pick. Giving the Lions pressing needs in the secondary and David's experience in the Cover 2, I think he is much better than anything they can find in the 4th round this year. He has been cited as having pedestrian speed and is undersized, but intangibles are in his favor and the price, in my opinion, seem to be right.

Tom Kowalski: I think you're right. Considering how many times they've missed on cornerbacks in the draft, spending a fourth-rounder on a guy who has experience in the your system is worth a look.

Kevin: Are the Lions in line to receive a compensatory pick for the loss of Terrance Holt? Sure Millen could take that pick and draft another hurt player, but it would be more reliable than Holt.

Tom Kowalski: I've received a lot of questions like this (but most without the shot at Millen). A reminder, compensatory picks are awarded the year AFTER they've signed with another team. And, right now, the signing of White and Duckett will more than offset -- I would think -- anything the Lions are going to lose this season.

Arlen: I was born and raised in the Detroit area and have been defending the Lions in Packer Country for the past 20 years. Your recommendation that the Lions should trade away a #2 pick in this draft is utterly ridiculous. Joe Thomas would immediately be better than nearly all of the O linemen they now have. Calvin Johnson will be as good as Roy Williams. Jamarcus Russell and Brady Quinn would be upgrades at the QB position (from what I hear you folks are just fine with Jon Kitna. I suppose you have been conditioned to accept sub-mediocre talent). The only legitimate rationale for trading down would be the horrendous results of their past drafts. Is that your argument?

Tom Kowalski: Actually, I've been all over the board on this one, saying the Lions shouldn't rule out any player at this stage. But don't confuse my opinion from what I think the Lions want to do. The Lions want to trade down and get Gaines Adams (or a defensive player). I've said in the past that the Lions shouldn't outsmart themselves and should just take Joe Thomas. I consider him to be one of the safest picks in the draft and he's definitely a Marinelli guy.

But I wouldn't criticize the move down to get Adams. A pass rush is essential to making this defense click and the combination of Adams, Dewayne White and Kalimba Edwards could get that done.

Eric: Hey thanks for the great bullentin here. Up to the min. with new info and always something to read about. I visit oh about ever hour just to see whats new. My question I want to know what the down low is on Detroit Lions quarterback Dan Orlovsky is he our future or not what are the opinions outside of the Lions?

Tom Kowalski: I don't know what other people think about Orlovsky, but I think the Lions are still high on him. However, the Lions really like Drew Stanton and might consider him a better long-term prospect. That doesn't mean the Lions don't like Orlovsky and I think some of the uninspired recent comments from Martz have more to do with trying to throw off other teams than what he really thinks of Orlovsky. Remember, Martz gave Orlovsky every opportunity to win that No. 2 job last year.

Tony: Could you please keep us informed on how the edwin mulitalo visit is going. I think that would be a fantastic fit. A high character nasty mauler.

Tom Kowalski: I think the Lions are interested in Mulitalo -- offensive line assistant Jim Colletto coached him in Baltimore -- but they're still pretty high on the guards they have. Mulitalo is better but it might be another case of him being a luxury they can't afford.

detroit4life
03-10-2007, 05:37 PM
i hope we either go stanton a CB or a DE in round two depending on what we do in the first

TacticaLion
03-10-2007, 05:48 PM
I agree.

Jason David would be a solid pickup... kinda suprised that we haven't made an attempt yet.

Wow... a lotta holes still. I wish the draft was tomorrow.

Scotty D
03-10-2007, 11:33 PM
Has Nick Harper signed with anyone yet? That is the guy we need to be pushing for. I Kaesviharn needs to be looked at also at Safety.

detroit4life
03-10-2007, 11:35 PM
yeah im surprised we haven't pushed for harper at all

Xiomera
03-11-2007, 09:10 AM
If Millen doesn't bring in a capable CB before the draft, then we are in trouble.

Maybe Next Year Millen2
03-11-2007, 09:55 AM
I think Nick Harper visited the Titans. Still unsigned. I would rather have Harper than give up a 4th for Jason David, who is pretty small.

Addict
03-11-2007, 10:36 AM
I wish the draft was tomorrow.

Could not agree more.

Scotty D
03-11-2007, 12:04 PM
I think Nick Harper visited the Titans. Still unsigned. I would rather have Harper than give up a 4th for Jason David, who is pretty small.

Exactly. I think Millen is to confident in Wilson and Bryant. They are just looking to replace to Jamar Fletcher not Bly.

Xiomera
03-11-2007, 12:20 PM
Exactly. I think Millen is to confident in Wilson and Bryant. They are just looking to replace to Jamar Fletcher not Bly.

Wilson-Bryant is the worst starting duo in the NFL in my estimation (or at the very least, bottom 3-4). Detroit needs to add two more CB's capable of spot starting/playing nickel and dime. Bryant is a walking injury. Yes, he is a good CB when healthy, but how often is that? Wilson is improving yes, but on most teams, he wouldn't be starting.

Lions need to sign a FA Corner, and draft one.

Scotty D
03-11-2007, 01:13 PM
Wilson-Bryant is the worst starting duo in the NFL in my estimation (or at the very least, bottom 3-4). Detroit needs to add two more CB's capable of spot starting/playing nickel and dime. Bryant is a walking injury. Yes, he is a good CB when healthy, but how often is that? Wilson is improving yes, but on most teams, he wouldn't be starting.

Lions need to sign a FA Corner, and draft one.

I agree. I would sign Nick Harper. And draft a nice cover 2 corner later in the draft.

Xiomera
03-11-2007, 01:16 PM
Having Bryant as starter just scares the hell out of me. He is too injury prone. At least having Harper would give us some depth.

TacticaLion
03-11-2007, 01:18 PM
Having Bryant as starter just scares the hell out of me. He is too injury prone. At least having Harper would give us some depth.Agree. We need either Harper or David this offseason... either one would help. And, we NEED to draft a true Cover 2 CB.

familyguy555
03-11-2007, 01:47 PM
wow that was a nice read Xiomera, I hope we can get Edwin Mulitalo or Nick Harper...maybe even both