Most underrated teams going into the season [Archive]

TitleTown088

07-23-2009, 08:53 PM

I think the Bengals will be alot tougher than most people are projecting.

I agree.

Also, I think Seahawks, Raiders and Green Bay are teams that may not win the super bowl or even make the playoffs but will likely improve from the previous seasons record.

Now I'd like to contradict myself. In the overrated thread I said the Cowboys. They are however, a intriguing team that could outperform some expectations.

It's nice to see the perennial 49er and Texan improvement predictions. It wouldn't be summer with out them.

Todd Bertuzzi

07-23-2009, 08:53 PM

Texans and Bengals I'd say. Also Chiefs and Raiders will battle for second in the division with the Broncos finishing last.

MidwayMonster31

07-23-2009, 08:58 PM

The Bengals will improve with a better offensive line and a healthy Carson Palmer/ Chad Ocho Cinco.
The Packers offense could be one very dangerous as long as Rodgers improves.
The Seahawks had a ton of injuries last year, so they should rebound this year.

D-Unit

07-23-2009, 09:00 PM

Hands down, it's got to be the Redskins to me. They are seen as the ugly step child of the NFC East, but they are gonna make the playoffs and Colt Brennan is gonna take them there.

superman8456

07-23-2009, 09:02 PM

Lions. They cant go anywhere but up and imo have vastly improved since last season.

LonghornsLegend

07-23-2009, 09:03 PM

Hands down, it's got to be the Redskins to me. They are seen as the ugly step child of the NFC East, but they are gonna make the playoffs and Colt Brennan is gonna take them there.

I don't see Portis lasting this year, by the end of the year he'll be all banged up once again, and Santana Moss is WAY too streaky for any WR to rely on consistently...He's a nice deep threat and all, but they need one of those young, big, WR's to step up and be a reliable pass catching target otherwise that offense will look alot like they did down the stretch of last year.

SugarSean

07-23-2009, 09:06 PM

Lions. They cant go anywhere but up and imo have vastly improved since last season.

Very true. I like the Lions this year, as well. In terms of record, I wouldn't be surprised at all if they make the biggest leap this year.

SeanTaylorRIP

07-23-2009, 09:06 PM

I don't see Portis lasting this year, by the end of the year he'll be all banged up once again, and Santana Moss is WAY too streaky for any WR to rely on consistently...He's a nice deep threat and all, but they need one of those young, big, WR's to step up and be a reliable pass catching target otherwise that offense will look alot like they did down the stretch of last year.

I agree we won't make the playoffs because outside of Moss, Randle El, and Cooley Jason has no weapons, and then there is the issue of Jason. I still think though the Skins will have a nasty defense. We were already the 4th ranked defense in the league last year and have now added Fat Albert, Orakpo, Jarmon, Kevin Barnes, and we have Phillip Daniels and Cornelius Griffin back. I do think out secondary is going to be crazy if Haynesworth, Andre Carter, Orakpo and crew get pressure because we have in our secondary LaRon Landry, Carlos Rogers, Fred Smoot, Deangelo Hall, Chris Horton, Kevin Barnes, Reed Doughty, Kareem Moore. Also call it a hunch but I think this could be the year London finally makes a pro bowl, and Rocky McIntosh might be in for a breakout season.

Geo

07-23-2009, 09:09 PM

Hands down, it's got to be the Redskins to me. They are seen as the ugly step child of the NFC East, but they are gonna make the playoffs and Colt Brennan is gonna take them there.
Wow. The Redskins pick was already something, but that ending there was a doozy. Do we have a picture of you next to a sleeping Brennan in his bed yet? Cripes.

Btw I wouldn't let Colt Brennan park my vehicle.

Geo

07-23-2009, 09:10 PM

Also, there isn't an outside soul who will pick the Colts to win the AFC over the Patriots, Steelers, and Chargers.

I love it.

EdReedUnstoppable

07-23-2009, 09:19 PM

Ive been on this teams bandwagon since the beginning of the offseason and the moves they made have kept me on.....

KANSAS CITY CHIEFS to win the AFC West!

GB12

07-23-2009, 09:26 PM

The Packers offense could be one very dangerous as long as Rodgers improves.
As long as Rodgers improves? Rodgers played at a probowl level last year. He had 4,000 yards and 28 TDs. He had an extremely similar statistical season as MVP Peyton Manning.

The defense was the problem last season, not Rodgers.

HChu

07-23-2009, 09:32 PM

I think Jason Campbell in his contract year gets it together and leads the 'Skins to a 10-6 record and the playoffs. But if there is a just god, he will let Colt Brennan (#5 on the fields, but #1 in our hearts), lead the Redskins to glory, /ridiculous faith over one preseason.

TitanHope

07-23-2009, 09:45 PM

Also, there isn't an outside soul who will pick the Colts to win the AFC over the Patriots, Steelers, and Chargers.

I love it.

That's cause they'll have to get past the Texans first, Geo... ;)

Geo

07-23-2009, 09:58 PM

They added Antonio Smith!

tjsunstein

07-23-2009, 10:04 PM

As long as Rodgers improves? Rodgers played at a probowl level last year. He had 4,000 yards and 28 TDs. He had an extremely similar statistical season as MVP Peyton Manning.

The defense was the problem last season, not Rodgers.

I see what he was saying as long as he meant late game decision making. Not so reckless throws and such. The defense was the problem. I see this team coming into the season a more talented one that was a bad throw in overtime away from the superbowl two years ago. The biggest thing will be the adjusting period for our defense. I think the Packers are underrated but it won't be if Rodgers improves, it will be if the defense improves. Rodgers can't go anywhere but up from here, imo, and that should be amazing to watch.

MidwayMonster31

07-23-2009, 10:07 PM

TitleTown088

07-23-2009, 10:10 PM

As long as Rodgers improves? Rodgers played at a probowl level last year. He had 4,000 yards and 28 TDs. He had an extremely similar statistical season as MVP Peyton Manning.

The defense was the problem last season, not Rodgers.

I saw a break down, and Rodgers was actually " statistically" better than Manning last season. Now all he needs to do is get the clutch down, which is hard to do. just ask Manning.

BlindSite

07-23-2009, 10:24 PM

Giants, everyone's talking about the skins or the Eagles when the Giants even though they lost a couple of receivers and their D coord are still top dog in their division.

I know it's cool to hate Eli, but he'll get the job done, as well that defense and great running game. They're still the top of the NFC East and need t be shown more respect.

Sniper

07-23-2009, 10:28 PM

The Eagles, since not everyone is picking them to win the Super Bowl. :D

Kidding.

In no order...

Packers, Broncos, Dolphins.

TACKLE

07-23-2009, 10:35 PM

The Raiders. A lot of people having them pick in the Top 5 again but I wouldn't be surprised to see them win 7-8 games. They got a lot of good young talent, some stability at HC (hopefully) and the O-Line should be more consistent, especially with Kwame Harris out of the picture. I love their RB's and I think J-Roc will be solid. It also doesn't hurt that they play in the AFC West.

SenorGato

07-24-2009, 01:03 AM

Any team that didn't win the Super Bowl last year.

This is the NFL.

But if I had to pick I'd say the Bengals and Redskins.

Also, I expect the Browns to surprise. Despite the fact that they've got the most recent Worst Coach Ever Hired by the Jets, they're talented, and Mangini is gonna whoop some ass.

DoughBoy

07-24-2009, 01:59 AM

Crickett

07-24-2009, 02:46 AM

Also, I expect the Browns to surprise. Despite the fact that they've got the most recent Worst Coach Ever Hired by the Jets, they're talented, and Mangini is gonna whoop some ass.

But Ted Cottrell is in the UFL.

Wait, you meant head coach.

Ness

07-24-2009, 04:59 AM

As long as Rodgers improves? Rodgers played at a probowl level last year. He had 4,000 yards and 28 TDs. He had an extremely similar statistical season as MVP Peyton Manning.

The defense was the problem last season, not Rodgers.
When the game was on the line and there was a chance of winning the contest he didn't play his best football. He needs to improve in that area.

fenikz

07-24-2009, 05:22 AM

Denver Broncos, i seem to be the only person who thinks they will make the playoffs, they nearly did it last year with no defense at all, atleast they get Champ back now

diabsoule

07-24-2009, 05:42 AM

Denver Broncos, i seem to be the only person who thinks they will make the playoffs, they nearly did it last year with no defense at all, atleast they get Champ back now

But the downgrade at QB is going to be painfully obvious this year.

Ness

07-24-2009, 06:10 AM

Seattle Seahawks.

flave1969

07-24-2009, 09:39 AM

I see a lot of people saying the Redskins are underrated, but if we do not have the solution for the right side of our line we are in for a long hard season.

It scares me.

619

07-24-2009, 10:09 AM

But the downgrade at QB is going to be painfully obvious this year.

Defense would still be my biggest concern, and the personnel up front for the 34 in particular. Champ should continue to be his pro bowl caliber self, although maybe not as dominant as we're accustomed to seeing him, which is understandable considering the injuries he's dealt with over the past two seasons. The offense will score points, and in bunches in McDaniels' system. That I don't doubt.

GhostDeini

07-24-2009, 11:29 AM

I wanna say Houston but I don't trust their QB or their secondary.

wicket

07-24-2009, 11:39 AM

my picks, packers, jaguars, panthers and the hawks

vidae

07-24-2009, 11:39 AM

It's been said but I'll go with the Bengals too. Healthy Carson and a pretty great draft class should equal a lot more wins than last year. They're in a TOUGH division but I love the way their defense is shaping up and their offense is going to be explosive.

AntoinCD

07-24-2009, 11:43 AM

Underrated teams;

Indianapolis Colts-Yes losing Dungy, Mudd etc will hurt. But, they still have Manning throwing the ball, Wayne and Clark catching the ball, Freeney rushing the passer and Sanders knocking people's heads off. I wouldn't count them out just yet.

San Francisco 49ers-Quietly Singletary is building a very good team in San Fran. If he can get even average play at QB and WR they can win the NFC West. Their defense could turn out to be very good as well.

Denver Broncos-Is Kyle Orton Jay Cutler? No but he is a steady QB who has a history of leading winning teams. That was his team that Grossman took to the Superbowl. With Marshall, Royal, Sheffler, Moreno and that O-line their offense will be better than average, plus they play in the AFC West. They should be no worse than 7-9. People are talking about them being a #1 overall for next year's draft

senormysterioso

07-24-2009, 11:46 AM

Homer pick, The Packers. They're getting buried in the Cutler/Favre/Stafford media frenzies but they added some pieces to their defense and the young stars on offense have another year under their belt, and Rodgers proved to the fans/the coaching staff/himself that he can be the guy in Green Bay. I like our chances this year.

derza222

07-24-2009, 11:48 AM

But Ted Cottrell is in the UFL.

Wait, you meant head coach.

Paul Hackett anyone?

They're my second favorite team so I'm a little biased, but I like the Bengals this year. They've got a solid defense with an interesting mix of youth and experience, though I'd have to say more youth. If the offensive line plays well they'll have a lot of success this year since Palmer will have some decent weapons to throw to and they showed signs of being able to run the ball late last season. If not then they'll struggle. Tough division too, but I think they can definitely have some success if everything goes well.

Looking at the ESPN power rankings I think (in no particular order) the Chiefs, Jags, Bucs, Bills, and Redskins could make some noise this year if a couple things go the right way.

bantx

07-24-2009, 12:43 PM

Underrated teams;

Denver Broncos-Is Kyle Orton Jay Cutler? No but he is a steady QB who has a history of leading winning teams. That was his team that Grossman took to the Superbowl. With Marshall, Royal, Sheffler, Moreno and that O-line their offense will be better than average, plus they play in the AFC West. They should be no worse than 7-9. People are talking about them being a #1 overall for next year's draft

Broncos is falling apart..

D-Unit

07-24-2009, 01:37 PM

Wow. The Redskins pick was already something, but that ending there was a doozy. Do we have a picture of you next to a sleeping Brennan in his bed yet? Cripes.

Btw I wouldn't let Colt Brennan park my vehicle.

I think Jason Campbell in his contract year gets it together and leads the 'Skins to a 10-6 record and the playoffs. But if there is a just god, he will let Colt Brennan (#5 on the fields, but #1 in our hearts), lead the Redskins to glory, /ridiculous faith over one preseason.
You see Geo... All it took was 1 preseason for Colt to win over their hearts. Redskins fans could easily hate on him, but he gives them hope.

People can't knock him as a draft prospect anymore. Can't knock his size. He's bigger and stronger than ever. Can't knock the system he came from or his footwork from behind center. He's had a year of tutledge. Can't knock his performance in the time he's been given, because he's done well. If he had done bad, then you'd have a point. Can't knock his throwing motion, because there are all types of different throwing motions that have been successful in the NFL... it just all boils down to performance and what you do on the field now... and Colt has done well in that department.

touchdownrams

07-24-2009, 01:58 PM

Being a bit of a homer but the Rams are really underrated, and have a good chance to surprise some folks. I like what the Bengals and Jags have done this offseason too.

49ersfan_87

07-24-2009, 02:20 PM

San Francisco 49ers-Quietly Singletary is building a very good team in San Fran. If he can get even average play at QB and WR they can win the NFC West. Their defense could turn out to be very good as well.

We have Crabtree, plus the development of Jason Hill and Josh Morgan, draft picks from 07 and 08 respectively. Along with a decent backup in Brandon Jones and the vet leadership of Isaac Bruce, i think we'll be pretty good at WR this year. And hopefully the improvement at WR will make our QB's look better too.

JT Jag

07-24-2009, 02:38 PM

TitleTown088

07-24-2009, 02:43 PM

Glad to see someone else picking us. I think the Jags have the potential to go 9-7 if things go right.

I see the Jags as a team that is built well for the near future, but not one that will make a deep run next season. Those two tackles are going to be real nice to have in the coming years.

princefielder28

07-24-2009, 02:44 PM

Glad to see someone else picking us. I think the Jags have the potential to go 9-7 if things go right.

I think the Jags are a year off yet. They are young along the lines and experience is going to be key for those guys because they are very talented. The receivers are young too, outside of Holt, and this will be a year of development for them as well. Would it surprise me if the Jags pulled off a .500 or better season? No but they're not going to be as polished in the trenches and that will be their downfall.

ChezPower4

07-24-2009, 02:54 PM

Being a bit of a homer but the Rams are really underrated, and have a good chance to surprise some folks. I like what the Bengals and Jags have done this offseason too.

Although I do think the Rams have improved I don't see them making much noise this season. They do have a lot of young talent that a couple years down the road could make them dangerous and the Rams are still very unsettled at the QB position IMO.

scottyboy

07-24-2009, 05:33 PM

Bengals:

A healthy Palmer to Ocho and Leonard all day. Throw in Coles, and BAM!

and Keith Rivers is sweet as well

D-Unit

07-24-2009, 05:41 PM

Bengals:

A healthy Palmer to Ocho and Leonard all day. Throw in Coles, and BAM!

and Keith Rivers is sweet as well
...and so is Rey "shoulda been a Cowboy" Maualuga. :( :( :(

BuddyCHRIST

07-24-2009, 06:17 PM

I'll be a homer and say the Saints have SB chances if they put it together, I also think that atleast one other NFC West team will be in the playoff race, I'd prolly lean towards the 9'ers right now. I think the Packers will win the North as well.

In the AFC I think the Jags will be a playoff race team again if the O-Line stays healthy. I also like the Jets, I think their D will be nasty and Sanchez fits well.

wicket

07-24-2009, 06:32 PM

jsagan77

07-24-2009, 09:57 PM

...and so is Rey "shoulda been a Cowboy" Maualuga. :( :( :(

Don't forget "the Redskins are ******** for not picking you in the 3rd round as well as every other team in the NFL" Michael Johnson... The draft they had was just A+++++++....

Seamus2602

07-25-2009, 08:22 AM

Jaguars could be good this year now that they have upgraded the O-line (of course their pass rush is still terrible.) And for all you guys picking the Texans...LOL that defense is as bad a unit as they come,if they were to lose Mario or DeMeco they wouldnt even be able to get the other offense to punt.

If the Texans lose Mario Williams they will suffer. If they lose DeMeco Ryans they will suffer. But then if you got people to name ther Top DEs in the league then Mario Williams would be quite close to the top. If you got them to name their top Mike LBs in the league then Ryans would be quite close to the top. You don't lose a player amongst the top in his position and not suffer from it. If the Patriots lost Brady again they would struggle. If the Colts lost Manning they would struggle. If the Vikings lost AD they would struggle... etc etc etc

AntoinCD

07-25-2009, 10:54 AM

We have Crabtree, plus the development of Jason Hill and Josh Morgan, draft picks from 07 and 08 respectively. Along with a decent backup in Brandon Jones and the vet leadership of Isaac Bruce, i think we'll be pretty good at WR this year. And hopefully the improvement at WR will make our QB's look better too.

Yea I wasn't saying that the WRs or anything were bad but top level isn't needed this year. It is also hard to count on Crabtree who has had the injury and will be a rookie. Overall, if Shaun Hill can make plays when he has to the WRs should be fine but that offense should be a whole lot of Frank Gore

ChezPower4

07-25-2009, 11:38 AM

If the Texans lose Mario Williams they will suffer. If they lose DeMeco Ryans they will suffer. But then if you got people to name ther Top DEs in the league then Mario Williams would be quite close to the top. If you got them to name their top Mike LBs in the league then Ryans would be quite close to the top. You don't lose a player amongst the top in his position and not suffer from it. If the Patriots lost Brady again they would struggle. If the Colts lost Manning they would struggle. If the Vikings lost AD they would struggle... etc etc etc

Most any team will struggle if they lose any of their top players.

gpngc

07-25-2009, 11:48 AM

Bengals.

Rams scare me too.

Brent

07-25-2009, 12:12 PM

The Texans have been mentioned in the Overrated thread, and this thread. We, as a forum, are not really on the same page.

YAYareaRB

07-25-2009, 02:50 PM

The Texans have been mentioned in the Overrated thread, and this thread. We, as a forum, are not really on the same page.

I for one think they are underrated. If they can put it together consistently they could possibly win their division.

skinzzfan25

07-25-2009, 03:22 PM

The Texans have been mentioned in the Overrated thread, and this thread. We, as a forum, are not really on the same page.

I think people call them overratted because really since their introduction to the league everybody has called them underratted and they haven't preformed.

ChezPower4

07-25-2009, 03:53 PM

I for one think they are underrated. If they can put it together consistently they could possibly win their division.

The Texans also have to keep their turnovers down. They gave the ball away 32 times last year (third worst in the NFL).

DoughBoy

07-26-2009, 12:15 AM

Most any team will struggle if they lose any of their top players.

Yes but the Texans struggle with their best players, they are helpless with out them.....Sure they could be good if they avoid the injury bug and the get a secondary and more than 1 guy to play on the defensive line but it isnt going to happen.

bernbabybern820

07-26-2009, 08:07 AM

Paul Hackett anyone?

Paul Hackett is actually a damn good QBs coach with amazing amounts of knowledge and teaching ability. He just cant call plays for his life.

Oh and i pick the Raiders as the most underrated. It seems like half the posters think they will pick in the top 2 and half think they will make a splash.

Dam8610

07-27-2009, 12:22 AM

In General:

Cincinatti Bengals - Any team with a franchise QB that invests in their OL and defense has my attention. There are a lot of "if"s to this team, some bigger than others: Carson Palmer's health, the ability to establish the run on offense, the defense finding an identity and sticking to it, the defensive talent they've invested in actually playing up to expectations, Andre Smith's ability to play LT at the professional level, I could go on, but you get the idea. That said, things falling right for them could see them at .500+ and possibly competing for a playoff berth.

On this board:

San Diego Chargers - I don't think much more could have gone wrong for the Chargers last season. They lost Shawne Merriman for the season early on and had no way of replacing him. LaDainian Tomlinson had one of the worst years of his illustrious career. They lost several games at the last second and some of those games they deserved to win. I hate Philip Rivers for his attitude, but I recognize a talented QB when I see one, and he is one. They have enough pieces around him and a head coach with a knack for QB development, so their offense should only get better, especially if Tomlinson can bounce back. Defensively, they get their best pass rusher back, which should help their defense a great deal, and they add another talented pass rusher to the mix. If they don't get hit as hard with the injury bug this season and they don't have a ton of breaks go against them again, they should run away with the AFC West. They're clearly the class of the division on paper.

no bare feet

07-27-2009, 07:06 AM

I am going to agree with Dam8610 about the Chargers. They were a very solid team without having Merriman all year. I feel as if people are under estimating the impact he has on the defense. The Chargers finished last year with only 28 sacks compared to 42 the year before that. The Chargers also lost the time of possession battle for the year. The defense is a lot better with Merriman and the addition of Larry English will only help the cause. The offense will be solid and the offensive line added some depth. I don't see them winning 13 or 14 games but I think it's a lock they win the AFC West and Phillip Rivers is enough of a gamer that they could actually do something in the playoffs.

SenorGato

07-27-2009, 10:51 AM

The Raiders aren't a bad choice, but I think they're a year or two away.

It wouldn't shock me to see them play well...they've got alot of really good athletes together and football is a sport of piling up talent.

awfullyquiet

07-27-2009, 10:55 AM

Cardinals.

um. hello.

Underrated to the point that, as their defense gelled last post-season, figured things out and how to actually play football without giving up a billion points and relying on warner to throw a bajillion yards... picking up a good edge rusher in brown... and, in my opinion, have a good defensive projection with young growing talent... srs. this defense is going to be much better than last year.

anything but projecting them near the top of the NFC is underrating imo, and even larger would be to say that the Wildcard would come out of the west...

LonghornsLegend

07-27-2009, 03:35 PM

I agree we won't make the playoffs because outside of Moss, Randle El, and Cooley Jason has no weapons, and then there is the issue of Jason. I still think though the Skins will have a nasty defense. We were already the 4th ranked defense in the league last year and have now added Fat Albert, Orakpo, Jarmon, Kevin Barnes, and we have Phillip Daniels and Cornelius Griffin back. I do think out secondary is going to be crazy if Haynesworth, Andre Carter, Orakpo and crew get pressure because we have in our secondary LaRon Landry, Carlos Rogers, Fred Smoot, Deangelo Hall, Chris Horton, Kevin Barnes, Reed Doughty, Kareem Moore. Also call it a hunch but I think this could be the year London finally makes a pro bowl, and Rocky McIntosh might be in for a breakout season.

I love the additions to the defensive side of the ball, but I'm not sold on the hybrid role Orakpo will be playing...I really hope it works, but I don't see the need in trying to teach him so many positions at once, and I can't think of any other players who have this type of role and are great at it.

Guys like Suggs, Merriman, Ware etc somewhat count, but a 3-4 defense gives different looks and still puts those guys on the edge more times then not, Rak will be standing up as a Strongside backer alot, so it will be something to monitor.

bigbluedefense

07-27-2009, 03:40 PM

Bengals
Redskins
Seattle
Chicago
Jacksonville

I expect all of those teams (except the Redskins) to make the playoffs this year.

SenorGato

07-27-2009, 04:02 PM

I like what the Skins are doing with Orakpo, and I think it's becoming a decent trend in the league.

Basically I can only summarize why I think this because I haven't formed the complete thought but it goes something like:

- Teams are passing more.

- More pass rushers needed.

- You can move the pass rusher around if he's playing LB.

- You can still have pass rushers at the DE position.

Plus...it's not *that* new. If Orakpo learns the position then they just have a bigger, badder version of a traditional LBer anyway...the Eagles have worked with similar ideas in the past...the Giants move their DE's all over the place and started Kiwi at LB last year (I realize because LB was bare).

I should develop this idea, but I'll give it a little. In the end, it's just a way of getting the best athletes on the field and teaching them to do everything.

SugarSean

01-10-2010, 10:24 AM

That's easy. Cowboys and Saints. End of thread.

Also, I'm saying the Broncos. I see many "experts" projecting them to go like 2-14 or 3-13 and that's crazy to me.

Neg repped in this thread for comments like these. Dude said, "Stop posting retardedly everywhere."

It's funny how some people that spend all day on their computers chattin it up on NFL websites know so little about the NFL.

scottyboy

01-10-2010, 10:26 AM

holy crap, what is this? bump your own ancient thread to make you look smart week? How much of this crap are we gonna see? cool, you were right by saying the Cowboys and Saints would do well and that the Broncos would have more than 4 wins.

You probably got neg repped considering nothing about the Saints or Boys is "under rated".

Twiddler

01-10-2010, 10:31 AM

Very true. I like the Lions this year, as well. In terms of record, I wouldn't be surprised at all if they make the biggest leap this year.

Wait, why aren't you bringing this one up?

SugarSean

01-10-2010, 10:32 AM

ESPN's preseason power rankings. Cowboys 14. Saints 19.

I'd say that's pretty underrated.

scottyboy

01-10-2010, 10:34 AM

ESPN's preseason power rankings. Cowboys 14. Saints 19.

I'd say that's pretty underrated.

for this alone to back up your own back patting: Fail.

SugarSean

01-10-2010, 10:37 AM

Wait, why aren't you bringing this one up?

I said I like 'em. I said it wouldn't surprise me...but I damn sure didn't say I pick 'em as one of my most underrated teams. Try again.

Twiddler

01-10-2010, 10:39 AM

I said I like 'em. I said it wouldn't surprise me...but I damn sure didn't say I pick 'em as one of my most underrated teams. Try again.

Will do. How 'bout them Texans winning the division!?!

I woulda said the Texans but I see a lot of people pickin them to win their division. I actually am too. I love them this year.

SugarSean

01-10-2010, 10:46 AM

Will do. How 'bout them Texans winning the division!?!

Haha. Wrong about that but this is the underrated team thread...not the pick the division winners thread. I'd say they were pretty underrated.

And question...if I'm wrong for seein a .gif (or whatever it's called) that I like and goin to my user cp to see how to upload it, seeing that I got a ton of negative rep (that i've never seen before today) about my preseason predictions and responding to it, what does that make you guys? B/c you guys are dissecting a whole thread just to see if you can find ONE thing I was wrong about...I'd say that's pretty lame. How bout u go back and look at what you said b4 the season and comment on it? I don't believe I claimed to be Jesus Christ...I just said was I right about those responses that got neg repped.

Twiddler

01-10-2010, 10:50 AM

Haha. Wrong about that but this is the underrated team thread...not the pick the division winners thread. I'd say they were pretty underrated.

And question...if I'm wrong for seein a .gif (or whatever it's called) that I like and goin to my user cp to see how to upload it, seeing that I got a ton of negative rep (that i've never seen before today) about my preseason predictions and responding to it, what does that make you guys? B/c you guys are dissecting a whole thread just to see if you can find ONE thing I was wrong about...I'd say that's pretty lame. How bout u go back and look at what you said b4 the season and comment on it? I don't believe I claimed to be Jesus Christ...I just said was I right about those responses that got neg repped.

If you can't see the hypocrisy in the bolded statement then I am done in this thread.

SugarSean

01-10-2010, 10:56 AM

If you can't see the hypocrisy in the bolded statement then I am done in this thread.

Actually I can't. I didn't scroll through tons of threads to find something I was right about so I could toot my own horn and I damn sure didn't scroll through tons of stuff so I could find something someone else was wrong about. Again...I saw some negative rep I had from before the season and I commented on it. That's not even close to what you guys are doing.

scottyboy

01-10-2010, 11:06 AM

Actually I can't. I didn't scroll through tons of threads to find something I was right about so I could toot my own horn and I damn sure didn't scroll through tons of stuff so I could find something someone else was wrong about. Again...I saw some negative rep I had from before the season and I commented on it. That's not even close to what you guys are doing.

do you know what hypocrisy means?
He's saying you went back to this thread to puff out your chest and show you were right so long ago, BUT you get all whiney about how it was soooo long ago and that if you were wrong it's no big deal.

SugarSean

01-10-2010, 11:08 AM

for this alone to back up your own back patting: Fail.

It was just the first one I found. Please tell me what site you believe is better and let's look at their pre-season rankings. Nobody said before the season that the Cowboys and Saints would be top 5 teams...which makes them underrated and most publications had them extremely underrated which makes it senseless as to why you're trying to argue against me.

LizardState

01-10-2010, 11:21 AM

broth223 was onto something about the Texans, 1st season over .500 in franchise history, & Schaub led the NFL in passing. If they could get past Indy, watch out!

SugarSean

01-10-2010, 12:40 PM

do you know what hypocrisy means?
He's saying you went back to this thread to puff out your chest and show you were right so long ago, BUT you get all whiney about how it was soooo long ago and that if you were wrong it's no big deal.

You're not making any sense. There is no hypocrisy here at all and I def did not get whiney and say if I'm wrong it doesn't matter b/c it was soooo long ago. Where'd that **** even come from?

SugarSean

01-10-2010, 12:43 PM

broth223 was onto something about the Texans, 1st season over .500 in franchise history, & Schaub led the NFL in passing. If they could get past Indy, watch out!

They will soon. Peyton Manning can't play at an elite level forever. If they could get Slaton back on track or get any production from the running game then they'll be too balanced to for Indy goin forward.

broth223

01-10-2010, 12:56 PM

broth223 was onto something about the Texans, 1st season over .500 in franchise history, & Schaub led the NFL in passing. If they could get past Indy, watch out!

I just wish they would have the playoffs ... stupid colts

wogitalia

01-10-2010, 11:50 PM

Similar to the overrated, I didn't participate in the original thread.

I underrated the Saints, didn't think they were that good, though did feel they could make the playoffs.

Bengals were my big underrated team though. Couldn't see them beating the Ravens or the Steelers this year to win the conference and thought it was unlikely they could make the playoffs as well as those two teams. I was wrong, though my overrating of the Steelers was pivotal to that.