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jballa838
07-29-2009, 03:55 PM
http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/The_Trenches/entry/view/28993/Brian_Urlacher_Questions_Jay_Cutler%27s_Manhood/28993

But things got interesting when talk turned to the rest of the NFC North.
“Jay Cutler’s a good player,” Wade said. “Obviously it’s a much different environment going from Denver to Chicago. Chicago’s a tough guy kind of town.”
Not entirely safe for work language occurs after the jump in what Wade says Urlacher said about Cutler …
“I don’t want to get him (Urlacher) in trouble or anything,” Wade prefaced his story, “but Cutler’s not what they expected. Pretty much he said Jay Cutler’s a ***** for the most part.”

Xonraider
07-29-2009, 04:03 PM
Frankly, I'm only happy he is out of the AFC West

SFbear
07-29-2009, 04:05 PM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-30-bears-urlacher-jul30,0,5380020.story

Urlacher denies it. Says Bobby Wade is just trying to start crap. That won't stop people from blowing it out of proportion.


` I have no problem with Jay," he said. ``I think we're all excited about Jay. That's why we made the trade. He's obviously one of the best quarterbacks in the league. I think we have a better chance to win the Super Bowl with him at quarterback.

``Again, I'm pretty sure Jay knows I wouldn't say that about him. It seems like something always happens before training camp, I guess. But it doesn't bother me. I've definitely had a lot worse things happen before training camp."

ChezPower4
07-29-2009, 04:06 PM
I'm not surprised that Urlacher said that. Cutler alway kinda seemed like a cry baby in Denver.

TitleTown088
07-29-2009, 04:10 PM
Welll.... he is.

CC.SD
07-29-2009, 04:15 PM
I'm not surprised that Urlacher said that. Cutler alway kinda seemed like a cry baby in Denver.

Yeah he certainly seemed that way.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
07-29-2009, 04:22 PM
He may whine, but he also looks like if he's angry, he'll stomp your throat.

Matthew Jones
07-29-2009, 04:25 PM
Jay Cutler's really overrated in my opinion anyway. A good starter, not a top-10 QB.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
07-29-2009, 04:31 PM
Jay Cutler's really overrated in my opinion anyway. A good starter, not a top-10 QB.

I don't think you can name 10 QBs who are better than him. He's not an elite level QB at the moment and he's not a Super Bowl calibre QB(without a great defense) but I do think most teams would see him as an upgrade. Plus, he's 26 and the only faults he has are entirely correctable.

Not to say they will be corrected, as an example most of Rex Grossman's problems were correctable too. But Cutler is pretty much the prototype QB physically. Big, strong body, excellent mobility within the pocket, a brilliant pocket presence in terms of feeling the pressure and of course his cannon of an arm.

****, I miss that guy.

BmoreBlackByrdz
07-29-2009, 04:33 PM
I bet Cutler is gonna demand another trade. haha.

comahan
07-29-2009, 04:34 PM
... I think this falls under the 'who gives a ****' category

Matthew Jones
07-29-2009, 04:35 PM
I don't think you can name 10 QBs who are better than him. He's not an elite level QB at the moment and he's not a Super Bowl calibre QB(without a great defense) but I do think most teams would see him as an upgrade. Plus, he's 26 and the only faults he has are entirely correctable.

Not to say they will be corrected, as an example most of Rex Grossman's problems were correctable too. But Cutler is pretty much the prototype QB physically. Big, strong body, excellent mobility within the pocket, a brilliant pocket presence in terms of feeling the pressure and of course his cannon of an arm.

****, I miss that guy.

1. Tom Brady
2. Peyton Manning
3. Philip Rivers
4. Drew Brees
5. Kurt Warner
6. Tony Romo
7. Donovan McNabb
8. Aaron Rodgers
9. Matt Ryan
10. Eli Manning
11. Ben Roethlisberger
12. Carson Palmer
13. Jay Cutler

That's who I'd say is better. I think the top 5 is pretty self-explanatory. Romo actually has more TDs than Peyton the last two years if I recall correctly and he even missed a few games. Donovan McNabb is a proven winner who hasn't had much at WR in his career, and has still made it deep into the playoffs over and over. I thought Aaron Rodgers and Matt Ryan looked terrific their first seasons starting, and just generally are smart, accurate guys who can lead a team. Eli and Ben are both kind of overrated if you ask me as well, but they have the rings, so I guess I could see them at 8 and 9, too. Both are just a little too inconsistent for me, and Eli hasn't played well without Plaxico. Carson Palmer and Jay Cutler is a wash. I think Carson's playoff appearance and generally bigger body of work puts him a little ahead. I mean, Cutler could work his way up to #8 or so for me if say, he has another good year and wins a Super Bowl, but I'm not sure he's the guy I'd want leading my team.

EDIT: By the way, loose rankings, but you get the idea.

regoob2
07-29-2009, 04:38 PM
1. Tom Brady
2. Peyton Manning
3. Philip Rivers
4. Drew Brees
5. Kurt Warner
6. Tony Romo
7. Donovan McNabb
8. Aaron Rodgers
9. Matt Ryan
10. Eli Manning
11. Ben Roethlisberger
12. Carson Palmer
13. Jay Cutler

That's who I'd say is better. I think the top 5 is pretty self-explanatory. Romo actually has more TDs than Peyton the last two years if I recall correctly and he even missed a few games. Donovan McNabb is a proven winner who hasn't had much at WR in his career, and has still made it deep into the playoffs over and over. I thought Aaron Rodgers and Matt Ryan looked terrific their first seasons starting, and just generally are smart, accurate guys who can lead a team. Eli and Ben are both kind of overrated if you ask me as well, but they have the rings, so I guess I could see them at 8 and 9, too. Both are just a little too inconsistent for me, and Eli hasn't played well without Plaxico. Carson Palmer and Jay Cutler is a wash. I think Carson's playoff appearance and generally bigger body of work puts him a little ahead. I mean, Cutler could work his way up to #8 or so for me if say, he has another good year and wins a Super Bowl, but I'm not sure he's the guy I'd want leading my team.

EDIT: By the way, loose rankings, but you get the idea.lol at Matt Ryan. Why not put Flacco on there? :rolleyes:

Matthew Jones
07-29-2009, 04:39 PM
For what it's worth, I'd put Pennington #14, Cassel #15, Schaub #16, and then Vick #17 narrowly ahead of Hasselbeck (#18) and Flacco (#19). Very dangerous weapon and a total mismatch, plus Vick is a much better thrower than people think. His stats aren't the best, but keep in mind they kept switching the offense, trying to turn him into a pocket guy, and he played with absolutely atrocious receivers (yes, I know Roddy White was there, but he wasn't good yet) that dropped an absurd amount of passes. I think his completion percentage without all the drops would go from 55% or so to around 58-59%.

Matthew Jones
07-29-2009, 04:40 PM
lol at Matt Ryan. Why not put Flacco on there? :rolleyes:

Matt Ryan had a great season. He took a team that picked #3 and went 11-5. Yes, they had Michael Turner, but Ryan was playing behind an average line with no safety valve at tight end as a true rookie and did a great job. I'm expecting around 3,600 yards, 63% completion, and 24 touchdowns this year. Joe Flacco didn't do much of anything. I'll give him that he also made the playoffs (but with a much better team and supporting cast), but that offense was dumbed down passing-wise and I don't think they would have been much worse with Troy Smith.

EDIT: Looking at his stats last year though, I do guess Matt Ryan might belong around #11 in favor of Eli and Ben. I thought he threw for more touchdowns. Still, I'd rather take Ryan than Jay Cutler or Carson Palmer.

Shane P. Hallam
07-29-2009, 04:41 PM
Why would Urlacher even tell this to Bobby Wade?

TitleTown088
07-29-2009, 04:42 PM
I don't think you can name 10 QBs who are better than him.
Hm.. QB's I take over him ( not long term).

1Brady
2Manning
3Brees
4Rivers
5 Mcnabb
6 Rodgers
7 Ben

I might
8Romo
9Warner

You're correct, he's fringe.

regoob2
07-29-2009, 04:42 PM
Matt Ryan had a great season. He took a team that picked #3 and went 11-5. Yes, they had Michael Turner, but Ryan was playing behind an average line with no safety valve at tight end as a true rookie and did a great job. I'm expecting around 3,600 yards, 63% completion, and 24 touchdowns this year.
Michael Turner took the #3 team and went 11-5. He was that team. So having an elite running game and a big time #1 WR is nothing without a safety valve at TE? Come on. Those big times #'s you mentioned arent as good as Cutler put up last year.

TitleTown088
07-29-2009, 04:43 PM
Why would Urlacher even tell this to Bobby Wade?

They did used to be teammates?

regoob2
07-29-2009, 04:43 PM
Why would Urlacher even tell this to Bobby Wade?
He didnt. Thats why its not true.

Matthew Jones
07-29-2009, 04:53 PM
Michael Turner took the #3 team and went 11-5. He was that team. So having an elite running game and a big time #1 WR is nothing without a safety valve at TE? Come on. Those big times #'s you mentioned arent as good as Cutler put up last year.

And you don't think any of that was due to Matt Ryan being a vast improvement over Redman/Harrington/Leftwich?

BlindSite
07-29-2009, 05:06 PM
I honestly don't know how more broncos fans haven't dumped the team. The more I think about how I'd feel if I lost Jay Cutler as good as he is for as young as he is, hell I'd probably become a chargers fan.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
07-29-2009, 05:54 PM
Hm.. QB's I take over him ( not long term).

1Brady
2Manning
3Brees
4Rivers
5 Mcnabb
6 Rodgers
7 Ben

I might
8Romo
9Warner

You're correct, he's fringe.

I agree with that list, I'm terrible at ranking so I'm not gonna make my own list, but I wouldn't debate any of those. He could really fall anywhere from 8-12 on the list of top QBs.

regoob2
07-29-2009, 06:14 PM
And you don't think any of that was due to Matt Ryan being a vast improvement over Redman/Harrington/Leftwich?
Does that mean Matt Ryan is a top 10 QB or Redman/Harrington/Leftwich are f*cking terrible? The pieces were in place for the Falcons to succeed.

Sniper
07-29-2009, 08:04 PM
lol at Matt Ryan. Why not put Flacco on there? :rolleyes:

Because Matt Ryan is good, and Joe Flacco is mediocre.

Nalej
07-29-2009, 08:08 PM
Does that mean Matt Ryan is a top 10 QB or Redman/Harrington/Leftwich are f*cking terrible? The pieces were in place for the Falcons to succeed.

I beg to differ on the whole "succeed" part of your statement. I don't know anyone who thought the Falcons were going to be anything more then terrible last year.

PACKmanN
07-29-2009, 08:52 PM
Why would Urlacher even tell this to Bobby Wade?

didnt he say the same thing last year about one of his qbs?

LookItsAlDavis
07-29-2009, 10:14 PM
joe flacco=shaun king in 99

yodabear
07-29-2009, 11:33 PM
Who the **** is Bobby Wade and who gives a **** what he say or who believes the **** he says. Urlacher wouldn't say this.

Sniper
07-29-2009, 11:35 PM
Welll.... he is.

It's amazing how much we agree on these days, considering we used to hate each other.

Sniper
07-29-2009, 11:35 PM
Urlacher wouldn't say this.

Even if he did, what's Cutler going to do about it? Cry like a little ***** again so he can get his way?

yodabear
07-29-2009, 11:36 PM
It's amazing how much we agree on these days, considering we used to hate each other.

The Yodachu counseling sessions are a great success. Very happy to say.

the decider13
07-30-2009, 12:03 AM
This story makes me laugh....a lot.

TitleTown088
07-30-2009, 12:30 AM
Even if he did, what's Cutler going to do about it? Cry like a little ***** again so he can get his way?

Yeah, probably. He's a gunslinger.

Brent
07-30-2009, 01:28 AM
Yeah, probably. He's a gunslinger.
Haha, I dont know why but this made me laugh aloud.

Basileus777
07-30-2009, 02:58 AM
Even if Urlacher did say it, it doesn't matter. I'm sure there are plenty of veterans who think their QB is a p****.

Gay Ork Wang
07-30-2009, 03:08 AM
I lol at RoP ranking Michael Vick #17

DenverDex
07-30-2009, 05:45 AM
I honestly don't know how more broncos fans haven't dumped the team. The more I think about how I'd feel if I lost Jay Cutler as good as he is for as young as he is, hell I'd probably become a chargers fan.

So because once in a very long while the Broncos have had a rough off-season the fans should just move on to the the "flavor of the month" team in the chargers?

We lost a decent QB with a lot of potential who could have reacted in a lot better manner than to cry his way out. It sucks, but you think we're just going to drop our team because we lost player that's never even lead a team to a winning record in the NFL? I'm a fan of a whole team, not of just one player. I'm sure that if we have a really tough season, the fans will be all over the ownership and McDaniels, but at this point we're just going to wait and hope for a decent season.

I'm sure glad you're not a part of our fan base, because like you said you'd be a chargers fan by this point:rolleyes:

Being a fan is about more than one rough off-season. Ask the lions fans. If any fans have an excuse to root for a different team it'd be them, but yet there are a ton that are still loyal die hard fans.

Gay Ork Wang
07-30-2009, 05:55 AM
i think by dumping he meant to oppose to the decisions they made not to abbandon the team

no bare feet
07-30-2009, 06:38 AM
Urlacher should throw Cutler in Lake Michigan.

The Great Jonathan Vilma
07-30-2009, 09:06 AM
I don't get why people go after Cutler like they do. He demanded a trade, big deal, many people do. McDaniels has been shown to be an idiot. What is the big deal? His reason for demanding the trade is not really important, as demanding a trade is demanding a trade. People like to jump all over him now. Seems like the fun thing to do.

It doesn't matter what Urlacher 'may' have said. Wade isn't a reliable source. People on the same team often don't care for one another, but so long as they are in line with the same goal, you play with them to achieve it. Everyone who's played a sport has disliked someone they played with....it doesn't change anything. Whether this is true or not doesn't make a difference really....but if Bobby Wade said it......it must be a big deal

Gay Ork Wang
07-30-2009, 09:12 AM
I don't get why people go after Cutler like they do. He demanded a trade, big deal, many people do. McDaniels has been shown to be an idiot. What is the big deal? His reason for demanding the trade is not really important, as demanding a trade is demanding a trade. People like to jump all over him now. Seems like the fun thing to do.

It doesn't matter what Urlacher 'may' have said. Wade isn't a reliable source. People on the same team often don't care for one another, but so long as they are in line with the same goal, you play with them to achieve it. Everyone who's played a sport has disliked someone they played with....it doesn't change anything. Whether this is true or not doesn't make a difference really....but if Bobby Wade said it......it must be a big deal
ITS BOBBY WADE!

buy yea i dont get it. but i think thats when you know when it is offseason. when something bobby wade says brian urlacher said becomes a big deal

iowatreat54
07-30-2009, 11:58 AM
During the 1985 season, star veteran DE Richard Dent hated gunslinging, party-boy QB Jim McMahon with a passion, wouldn't talk to him, and openly displayed his negative feelings for the QB.

Just saying...

BamaFalcon59
07-30-2009, 12:04 PM
And you don't think any of that was due to Matt Ryan being a vast improvement over Redman/Harrington/Leftwich?

Don't worry, the other poster has no idea what he is talking about.

Matt Ryan was excellent last season, and definitely contributed to Michael Turner's huge season. Great leader as well.

Boston
07-30-2009, 12:44 PM
Welll.... he is.

Yeah, this surprises people? He pretty much cried himself out of Denver...

Shahin
07-30-2009, 12:56 PM
He may whine, but he also looks like if he's angry, he'll stomp your throat.

he looks like the biggest douche in the league without a helmet on.


CORRECTION: he looks like the 2nd biggest douche in the league without a helmet on, first has got to go to E. Manning

bearsfan_51
07-30-2009, 12:59 PM
Every quarterback is a *****.

Brett Favre was billed as some hardass cowboy and it turns out he cries to the media everytime his vagina hurts.

This is such a non-story. True or not.

bearsfan_51
07-30-2009, 01:01 PM
This story makes me laugh....a lot.
I'm glad you have a sense of humor. You'll need it everytime Orton tries to throw a pass longer than 8 yards.

Matthew Jones
07-30-2009, 02:33 PM
I lol at RoP ranking Michael Vick #17

How come? Vick's not nearly as bad as people think. They just have trouble separating public opinion of his throwing ability and their own bias due to the dog-fighting thing from his actual ability as a quarterback. The purpose of the quarterback is to lead the team downfield and score. Vick might not be the most accurate passer, but to be fair we've never really seen much of him in an offense that's designed to take advantage of his strengths. In his last year in the league, Vick combined for over 3,500 yards passing and running, with 22 TDs. His completion percentage is a little low but he didn't play with the current Roddy White, he played with the awful young Roddy White, who dropped a lot of passes, and not much else. Michael Jenkins? Really? Vick was 40-30-1 as a starter (incl. playoffs), and even went to the NFC Championship. Do you think the Falcons really would have been as good as they were back then without Vick? I sure don't. Do you think they would have had the #3 pick in the draft if Vick hadn't been arrested and instead had started for that team instead of Harrington/Leftwich? I sure don't.

Gay Ork Wang
07-30-2009, 02:38 PM
How come? Vick's not nearly as bad as people think. They just have trouble separating public opinion of his throwing ability and their own bias due to the dog-fighting thing from his actual ability as a quarterback. The purpose of the quarterback is to lead the team downfield and score. Vick might not be the most accurate passer, but to be fair we've never really seen much of him in an offense that's designed to take advantage of his strengths. In his last year in the league, Vick combined for over 3,500 yards passing and running, with 22 TDs. His completion percentage is a little low but he didn't play with the current Roddy White, he played with the awful young Roddy White, who dropped a lot of passes, and not much else. Michael Jenkins? Really? Vick was 40-30-1 as a starter (incl. playoffs), and even went to the NFC Championship. Do you think the Falcons really would have been as good as they were back then without Vick? I sure don't. Do you think they would have had the #3 pick in the draft if Vick hadn't been arrested and instead had started for that team instead of Harrington/Leftwich? I sure don't.
fact is that id take a QB like Hasselbeck and Flacco or even Campbell before Id take a QB that has been 2 years out of the league. if he shows that he is good again, then maybe, to rank him there right now is dumb.

Xonraider
07-30-2009, 02:39 PM
This story makes me laugh....a lot.

Your offseason makes me laugh... a lot.

Matthew Jones
07-30-2009, 02:49 PM
fact is that id take a QB like Hasselbeck and Flacco or even Campbell before Id take a QB that has been 2 years out of the league. if he shows that he is good again, then maybe, to rank him there right now is dumb.

If Hasselbeck goes back to playing like he did a few years ago, sure I can see it. But last year he was terrible, and he's old, with injury concerns. I don't think many people will agree with you that Jason Campbell is better than Vick. Since I was living in DC briefly, I got to see a lot of him. He's a slow decision maker and about the complete opposite of a playmaker. How many touchdowns did he throw for? 12? Joe Flacco has a big arm, but so does Vick. Flacco wasn't exactly a beast last year. He only threw for 14 touchdowns, and failed to get to 3,000 yards. IIRC, he also sucked in the playoffs. He could get better and eventually be a better QB than Vick, but Vick was a much more effective QB as far as leading the team downfield and scoring in the past than Flacco was last year.

Sniper
07-30-2009, 02:53 PM
You're all fools if you wouldn't take Vick. Think of how dominant he was in Madden, dammit! That's all that matters. Probably the second-greatest video game athlete ever.

Gay Ork Wang
07-30-2009, 02:55 PM
You're all fools if you wouldn't take Vick. Think of how dominant he was in Madden, dammit! That's all that matters. Probably the second-greatest video game athlete ever.
id take Vick. I just wouldnt rank him near any top25 over guys that actually played good or above average last year

If Hasselbeck goes back to playing like he did a few years ago, sure I can see it. But last year he was terrible, and he's old, with injury concerns. I don't think many people will agree with you that Jason Campbell is better than Vick. Since I was living in DC briefly, I got to see a lot of him. He's a slow decision maker and about the complete opposite of a playmaker. How many touchdowns did he throw for? 12? Joe Flacco has a big arm, but so does Vick. Flacco wasn't exactly a beast last year. He only threw for 14 touchdowns, and failed to get to 3,000 yards. IIRC, he also sucked in the playoffs. He could get better and eventually be a better QB than Vick, but Vick was a much more effective QB as far as leading the team downfield and scoring in the past than Flacco was last year.


How many yards and TDs did Vick throw for last year? or the year before that?

just because u couldve ranked him there 2 years ago doesnt mean he is still gonna be that good.

d34ng3l021
07-30-2009, 04:07 PM
If Hasselbeck goes back to playing like he did a few years ago, sure I can see it. But last year he was terrible, and he's old, with injury concerns. I don't think many people will agree with you that Jason Campbell is better than Vick. Since I was living in DC briefly, I got to see a lot of him. He's a slow decision maker and about the complete opposite of a playmaker. How many touchdowns did he throw for? 12? Joe Flacco has a big arm, but so does Vick. Flacco wasn't exactly a beast last year. He only threw for 14 touchdowns, and failed to get to 3,000 yards. IIRC, he also sucked in the playoffs. He could get better and eventually be a better QB than Vick, but Vick was a much more effective QB as far as leading the team downfield and scoring in the past than Flacco was last year.

As much as I know how important Vick was with the Falcons (Vick was 40-30-1 as a starter and the team was 9-20 without him), I think it is too much to think that he will return to his old self right away (or at all). The rest of the guys may not be as Vick was 2 years ago, but at least they have been playing and practicing in the NFL and have access to an NFL playbook.

Let's not forget that Vick is getting older and can't rely on his athleticism as much as he used to. He is going to need to learn how to read defenses and throw accurately. If he can put enough practice in, he could improve in these areas, but he has to be really dedicated.

awfullyquiet
07-30-2009, 08:56 PM
Why would Urlacher even tell this to Bobby Wade?

thats exactly why this is just '****'.

Xenos
07-30-2009, 10:29 PM
I'm glad you have a sense of humor. You'll need it everytime Orton tries to throw a pass longer than 8 yards.

To be fair, you're not exactly getting a guy with a great deep ball either. Cutler may have a rocket arm, but his accuracy is horrible on the deep ones.

jballa838
07-30-2009, 10:46 PM
what i'm baffled by is how does Bobby Wade get on a radio show?

vikes_28
07-31-2009, 12:49 AM
what i'm baffled by is how does Bobby Wade get on a radio show?

Its Minnesota...

RoP, just stop arguing. Nobody agrees with you anyways.

Gay Ork Wang
07-31-2009, 03:50 AM
To be fair, you're not exactly getting a guy with a great deep ball either. Cutler may have a rocket arm, but his accuracy is horrible on the deep ones.
nothing can be worse than Orton throwing deep



EDIT:

Middle linebacker Brian Urlacher and quarterback Jay Cutler laughed off a supposed rift between the two of them that took on a life of its own Wednesday after Vikings receiver Bobby Wade, a former Bear, told a Minnesota radio station that Urlacher had called Cutler a disparaging name.

“Nothing happened,” Urlacher said. “I saw Bobby at a place somewhere and I was talking to him, but I never said what was quoted as me saying, and that’s it. I have a lot of respect for Jay. I think Jay knows that. I’ve already talked to him. There’s never been an issue with Jay and me.

“Jay is the leader of our team. He’s our quarterback. He’s our Pro Bowl quarterback and he gives us the best chance to win a Super Bowl, and I’m happy to have him."

Cutler didn’t know anything about the situation until he received a call from Urlacher.

“I just got done working out and he called me, and we laughed about it,” Cutler said. “It came from Minnesota and the Vikings up there, so I didn’t put any stock into it. I know Brian didn’t. Brian and I have had a good relationship since I got here, and I expect it to continue that way.”

The controversy snowballed later Wednesday when rumors of a confrontation between Urlacher and Cutler were recklessly fueled on sports radio and the Internet.

“I don’t know what’s going on with all these stories about us fighting,” Urlacher said. “I don’t know what’s been said, what’s been going on. But we have no problems. I’m excited about football starting. I’m excited to have him as our quarterback.”

Cutler smiled when asked about a report that he had gotten in Urlacher’s face during a dispute.

“I wouldn’t go face-to-face with Brian anyway, first of all, but secondly, no, that’s never happened,” Cutler said. “I’ve hung out with Brian away from the facility numerous times and we’ve always got along. There’s nothing between us, so let’s put that to rest. There never has been anything between us. When I talked to him [Wednesday], we both laughed about it.”
http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=5957


take that for what its worth

Bucs_Rule
07-31-2009, 08:50 AM
This is a team that would rough up Benson in practice. If they don't like a guy's attitude they are much more likely to say it.

Cutler is a cray baby and everyone knows that. He's just stating the obvious.

regoob2
07-31-2009, 05:59 PM
Don't worry, the other poster has no idea what he is talking about.

Matt Ryan was excellent last season, and definitely contributed to Michael Turner's huge season. Great leader as well.
So contributing to Turners success automatically makes you a top 10 QB? Did you even read what I said or what was said?