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Saints 4 Lyfe
08-17-2009, 11:13 PM
Starts tomorrow. Can't wait for the action. I've kept up with it online since it started so for those that did as well check out the spoiler.

Can't wait for Phil Ivey to run down them hoes!

yodabear
08-18-2009, 12:14 AM
Phil Ivey FTMFW!!!!!!!

bsaza2358
08-18-2009, 08:08 AM
Everyone knows about the November 9. It's not really a spoiler. Frankly, I wish ESPN would give up coverage of all the final tables it doesn't want to show. There are some great poker broadcast potential situations. I would love to see more Stud, Mixed Games, Omaha, etc. I'm also a poker nerd and really appreciate what it takes to win these events.

no bare feet
08-18-2009, 08:13 AM
Since I know the November 9 I really don't want to watch it. I do want to see some of the other games as the previous poster said. I am taking a week off of work next year to participate in some of the early events next year. I plan to spend about 3000-4500 on entry fees and 1200 on travel and expenses(I have about 2500 saved just for the trip, my year end bonus will go to that pool). I have a friend that said I can stay with him so not paying for a place to stay will be a huge savings.

cdub11
08-18-2009, 08:24 AM
Phil Ivey FTMFW!!!!!!!

my thoughts also

Saints 4 Lyfe
08-19-2009, 03:47 PM
Everyone knows about the November 9. It's not really a spoiler. Frankly, I wish ESPN would give up coverage of all the final tables it doesn't want to show. There are some great poker broadcast potential situations. I would love to see more Stud, Mixed Games, Omaha, etc. I'm also a poker nerd and really appreciate what it takes to win these events.id give anything to see this years HORSE event. kept up online it was crazy good.

ante up for africa? wtf?

MetSox17
08-19-2009, 03:54 PM
Lol earlier this year me and a friend were having a conversation on how Phil Ivey hasn't done much since winning three bracelets in one year. I told him he was still at the top of the list of poker players, and then he goes and does what he's done so far.

Also, everyone rooting for Ivey, gotta give Jeff Lisandro his props. Three bracelets this year.

Saints 4 Lyfe
08-19-2009, 03:58 PM
no doubt. Ivey can get 3 this year too.

also, Phil Ivey is on the level of Chuck Norris.

Ivey once signed up for a 10 million dollar SNG. Only one other person signed up.

derza222
08-19-2009, 05:47 PM
Everyone knows about the November 9. It's not really a spoiler. Frankly, I wish ESPN would give up coverage of all the final tables it doesn't want to show. There are some great poker broadcast potential situations. I would love to see more Stud, Mixed Games, Omaha, etc. I'm also a poker nerd and really appreciate what it takes to win these events.

I understand how the rules go, but I'd really love to learn some more about how to play Stud, Omaha, and all of those games. My understanding of Holdem has really increased recently and my friends and I have started to play Omaha at home games since some are far better at Holdem than the rest and it's not as fun to play anymore, but I'd love to learn more about the ins and outs of the other games. Just really not sure where to go for it besides a book and where to practice with serious people without really risking much.

I agree that it kind of sucks that Holdem gets all of the coverage, but at least it helps the other games from exploding. For people who go out there and know how to play the other games I think it gives them a much better shot at doing well.

On topic, I'd love to see Ivy win. Haven't followed it as much as I probably should have but it should be interesting to watch.

Saints 4 Lyfe
08-20-2009, 01:01 AM
fwiw the chip leader of the Nov. 9 is a Saints fan! he wore that hat every day of the main event.

http://wickedchopspoker.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/darvin-moon-2009-wsop.jpg

Saints 4 Lyfe
08-21-2009, 02:29 AM
man day 1a Lex Veldhius (sp) absolutely murdered the feature table.

Saints 4 Lyfe
09-23-2009, 12:27 AM
Ivey raises to 14k with 99 and and the last guy to act folds AK of spades because of the bubble. He told Ivey and you should have seen his face. lol.

Also, two guys fold KK preflop because of the bubble.

MetSox17
09-23-2009, 01:41 AM
Bubble for what? Heads up?

Edit - Just got what you meant.

yodabear
09-23-2009, 10:22 AM
fwiw the chip leader of the Nov. 9 is a Saints fan! he wore that hat every day of the main event.

http://wickedchopspoker.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/darvin-moon-2009-wsop.jpg

Hopefully he does better than the dude last year with the chip lead going into it, Dennis Phillips, who was diehard St. Louis Cardinals fan, which was cool.

bsaza2358
09-24-2009, 09:46 AM
Dennis Phillips finished third. I don't know how much better you really expected him to do. He also made a super deep run this year. The guy is flat out legit as a poker player.

MetSox17
09-24-2009, 02:37 PM
He was the overwhelming chip leader going in. He could have folded his way to third place.

bsaza2358
09-25-2009, 08:19 AM
That is not quite true. He had a big stack, but he was by no means that strong. Demidov was very big stacked, and most of the table had 25-40% of his stack at the start. Even Chino Rheem had $9mm in chips, which was about 10% of his stack. This wasn't a Jamie Gold situation where he had 60% of the chips in play. Phillips only had about 20-30% total going into the final table. A nice lead, but nothing that big.

yodabear
09-25-2009, 10:54 AM
Dennis Phillips finished third. I don't know how much better you really expected him to do. He also made a super deep run this year. The guy is flat out legit as a poker player.

I know, third a damn good finish, and Phillips is a damn good poker player. Its just that I feel going into the final table with the chip leader, anything that ain't winning would be a bit of a disappointment.

bsaza2358
09-25-2009, 11:02 AM
Dennis Phillips: $26,295,000
Ivan Demidov: $24,400,000
Scott Montgomery: $19,690,000
Peter Eastgate: $18,675,000
Ylon Shwartz: $12,525,000
Darus Suharto: $12,520,000
Chino Rheem: $10,230,000
Craig Marquis: $10,210,000
Kelly Kim: $2,620,000

Phillips and Demidov were the tournament chip leaders, but they couldn't afford to call an all in preflop of anyone except Kelly Kim. The other players were very tightly bunched. Fact is, the 2 top stacks finished in the top 3. There were no blowups. In a tournament where these stacks are so close, Phillips and Demidov were small favorites (assuming equal skill), but the only real underdog was Kim.

MetSox17
09-25-2009, 12:50 PM
Where'd you get those numbers bsaza? I've been googling the **** out of it and i couldn't get them. From what i can remember he had a lot more than 26 mil. Maybe i'm just remembering after they had started the final table.

bsaza2358
09-25-2009, 01:16 PM
http://www.directoryofonlinepoker.com/wsop-2008-final-table.shtml

bsaza2358
09-25-2009, 01:18 PM
BTW, here are the chip counts for this year:

Darvin Moon - 58,930,000
James Akenhead - 6,800,000
Phil Ivey - 9,765,000
Kevin Schaffel - 12,390,000
Steven Begleiter - 29,885,000
Eric Buchman - 34,800,000
Joe Cada - 13,215,000
Antoine Saout - 9,500,000
Jeff Shulman - 19,580,000

Total chips in play: 256,065,000

Moon has about 25% of the chips, and Buchman and Begleiter can really put a hurting on him if they win an all in bet. Even Ivey's stack is legitimate. Moon would have to put about 1/6 of his stack in play to eliminate Ivey. That is a pretty significant risk, but probably one that Ivey will put to use...

Saints 4 Lyfe
09-25-2009, 02:46 PM
and Moon added like 20-30 million in the last 10 hands of the night..

BTW, here are the chip counts for this year:

Darvin Moon - 58,930,000
James Akenhead - 6,800,000
Phil Ivey - 9,765,000
Kevin Schaffel - 12,390,000
Steven Begleiter - 29,885,000
Eric Buchman - 34,800,000
Joe Cada - 13,215,000
Antoine Saout - 9,500,000
Jeff Shulman - 19,580,000

Total chips in play: 256,065,000

Moon has about 25% of the chips, and Buchman and Begleiter can really put a hurting on him if they win an all in bet. Even Ivey's stack is legitimate. Moon would have to put about 1/6 of his stack in play to eliminate Ivey. That is a pretty significant risk, but probably one that Ivey will put to use...

Actually from the App I got the total chips in play are $194,865,000

and the percentage goes

Darvin Moon-30.24%
Eric Buchman-17.86%
Steven Belgleiter-15.34%
Jeff Shulman-10.05%
Joseph Cada-6.78%
Kevin Schaffel-6.36%
Phil Ivey-5.01%
Antoine Saout-4.88%
James Akenhead-3.49%

bsaza2358
09-25-2009, 04:06 PM
Ivey and Akenhead are the most experienced and well known players at the table. Buchman and Belgleiter are also very very strong. I think those 4 are the faves.

Saints 4 Lyfe
09-25-2009, 04:30 PM
Ivey and Akenhead are the most experienced and well known players at the table. Buchman and Belgleiter are also very very strong. I think those 4 are the faves.
just from what ive read Moon has been playing the best poker..Laid down KK preflop vs AA which he credited to his chip lead. Been reading players the best..etc..but we'll see how the long layoff affects him.

bsaza2358
09-25-2009, 04:43 PM
Moon himself even admits that he has run super lucky the entire event. The big hand, he flopped a Q high flush vs. a 5 high, and Johnny Kopp, a very good young player, shoved on him on the flop, and he snap called.

Clearly, Moon knows what he's doing and can read people, but he has no formal training and no interest in furthering his game as a pro.

Saints 4 Lyfe
09-25-2009, 04:46 PM
Moon himself even admits that he has run super lucky the entire event. The big hand, he flopped a Q high flush vs. a 5 high, and Johnny Kopp, a very good young player, shoved on him on the flop, and he snap called.

Clearly, Moon knows what he's doing and can read people, but he has no formal training and no interest in furthering his game as a pro.

he actually shoved on the turn and Moon insta-called..i agree he still needs tons of work..even Ivey admitted he learned at least 5 new things this year..

bsaza2358
09-25-2009, 04:52 PM
I haven't seen it yet, but that was the turning point for Moon. I certainly respect his run, but he doesn't know the math quite as well, he doesn't necessarily understand the situations the way the pros do. I'm in the same position. I've been playing for 5 years and I play online. I have probably seen 10x the hands that he has, and I've final tabled in 2 100+ table live tournaments. I've also placed top 100 2x in the Full Tilt Daily Dollar. I understand end game situations and the like. I'm not sure that Moon does. I wish him the best, but he's not a pro, and he is not a clear fave to win over the long term. That's good for him, because he clearly doesn't want to win either...

Saints 4 Lyfe
09-25-2009, 05:02 PM
That's good for him, because he clearly doesn't want to win either...
im sorry but thats just an asinine thing to say when you have no proof to back that up.

bsaza2358
09-29-2009, 09:07 AM
That was sarcastic. Still, when everyone else is studying their opponents for tells and the like, and he basically says he's not going to get coached, that probably puts him at a disadvantage, even with his chip lead.

Saints 4 Lyfe
09-29-2009, 10:29 AM
That was sarcastic. Still, when everyone else is studying their opponents for tells and the like, and he basically says he's not going to get coached, that probably puts him at a disadvantage, even with his chip lead.

oh **** my bad man. my sarcasm detector is off i guess. and yes i have to agree with that assessment.

new episode tonight from 8-10 for those who are interested.

bsaza2358
09-29-2009, 10:58 AM
I will be watching on Tivo, maybe tomorrow. Should be a lot more huge pots as the microstacks push in to double up now that the money bubble has burst.

At this stage of the tournament, the big stacks need to be pounding on the medium stacked players. Other big stacks represent too much risk, and short stacks will shove in too often. So, the big boys have to attack the mediums. These players don't want to bust or become a short stack.

Saints 4 Lyfe
09-29-2009, 11:04 AM
i think this is where Darvin's stack skyrockets.

also I want Ivey to win it all not only because he's my favorite player but i want him to pay those 8 other guys the 50k he promised them if he won for not being at the feature table on day 3 i think?

bsaza2358
09-29-2009, 11:16 AM
Darvin's stack doesn't skyrocket until very late. He always had a pretty big stack, but he takes some huge pots of Asfandiari and a monster one off the 12th place finisher when they are both big stacked. That got him to $40mm. You might not even see Moon until next weeks' episodes, if not further out...

Saints 4 Lyfe
09-29-2009, 11:20 AM
Darvin's stack doesn't skyrocket until very late. He always had a pretty big stack, but he takes some huge pots of Asfandiari and a monster one off the 12th place finisher when they are both big stacked. That got him to $40mm. You might not even see Moon until next weeks' episodes, if not further out...

i think he had the final knockout before the final table..flopped a set of 8's on pocket aces.

bsaza2358
09-29-2009, 11:21 AM
He did, but that one wasn't monstrous. It was like +$6mm or something like that. The big one was when he flopped a Q high flush against a 5 high, and the guy shoved on the turn for like $20mm...

Saints 4 Lyfe
09-29-2009, 11:30 AM
He did, but that one wasn't monstrous. It was like +$6mm or something like that. The big one was when he flopped a Q high flush against a 5 high, and the guy shoved on the turn for like $20mm...
yeah it was played a bit weird..

3 diamond flop..both check..2 of clubs (i think) on the turn and he shoves all in? i would think he'd put out a feeler bet to see where Darvin was at..although there's no way he can get away from that hand.

Saints 4 Lyfe
09-30-2009, 11:59 AM
good episode. it was the day i remember being down because Ivey went from 1.2 million to 200k but next week should be great because he gets back up with like 16 million then drops to his current 9 million after.

he showed why he's the best player in the world.

Ivey A-7 Opponent 10-6

Board 7-6-K opponent moves all in and Ivey thinks for a while and calls and wins the pot. this was for most of his chips too.