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ClintPitts4Heisman
08-28-2009, 11:06 AM
First I'd like to start off by saying I love the NFL Draft. It is my favorite part of the season because every team can trace it's current state back to the draft. It's the best chance to really be a fan and second guess or evaluate what your team did. This is from someone who likes 'Batman Begins
more than Dark Knight, because I like to see the origins more than actual results.

With that said, the NFL Draft has a few flaws, which are getting worse every year.

1) The top 5 picks are not the best 5 picks to have anymore. You now have to pay so much money for a pick that the risk/reward don't match up anymore. Usually every year 2 of these picks bust and cripple a team's salary cap for the next 2-3 years.

The goal of the NFL Draft is to maintain competitive balance by giving the worst teams the best picks in the draft to add value to their team. Nowadays, due to the high salaries, the worst teams don't receive the best picks but the ability to choose the best talent. Since they are paying high prices for this talent it is difficult to add value to a team. Think about it this way, the NFL Draft is a blackjack table, temas like Bengals, Lions, and Raiders are forced to bet $100/hand while teams like the Patriots, Eagles, and Steelers bet $10/hand. This is one of the reasons why standings fluctuate so much year to year.

2) That is the problem from the Teams side. From the player/agent side, Players do not always go to the team that values them the most. If the Tennessee Titans thought that Micheal Crabtree was the next Jerry Rice, and was the only piece they needed to complete their team, they would have had to pay a huge price to jump up to take him. (Jumping from 30th pick to 9th would probably have cost 2 1st round picks and 2nd at least)

So a team like 49ers, who could have had Crabtree 10th on their board, ends up with him. The agent wants the player to go to the team that wants him the most to get the biggest contract and the player wants to go their to get the most playing time. (Not a good example in this case since Crabtree just seems to want money but you get the point)

Also from the NFL's point of view, you want every player to reach their highest potential, to keep ratings high and continue to generate interest in the sport. The player will devlop best on a team that wants him the most. (Obviously any team selecting Crabtree would make it a focus to develop him, but this argument is more important in later rounds)


So after saying all that, my idea for changing the draft is to make it basically a Draft Auction. Obviously this idea came from fantasy leagues but that doesn't make it a bad idea. Also I realize that this involves changing a process that is extremely popular but just because "It's the way we've always done it" doesn't mean it shouldn't change.

The idea would be going in each team would be given a rookie salary cap, the team finishing worst with the largest and the team winning the Super Bowl the smallest. I don't have any details on the scale but that would be the basis. Since it's just a maximum, it doesn't force the worst teams to risk the most money.

I haven't decided what teams would be bidding: I can't figure a way that teams would bid based on the money in the salary cap.

Example:
New York Jets have a $7.0m rookie salary cap based on order finished. They bid $5.0m for Mark Sanchez. Obviously Mark's agent is going to expect more than a $5.0m signing bonus.


That is why I think its best to use an arbitrary 'points' number. Worst team in the league starts with 200 points down to the Super Bowl Champ that starts with 120. (Just examples, don't get hung up on the numbers.


The draft would begin with the worst choosing a player to bid on. Also giving the worst teams another small benefit. Once a team is out of points that no longer nominate players. Draft continues until every team is out of points.


Breakdown of Pros and Cons:

Benefits:

Teams now get the players they value more than other teams. Players go where they are most wanted.

Teams are forced into high risk/reward situations. Obviously before no one made teams pick where they were slotted, but it was difficult to get appropriate value when trading down. Now a team can decide what is appropriate for them.

The current draft order gives teams 1 pick in every round(ignore compensatory). Some teams go into a draft looking for depth, while some are looking for 2-3 to start right away, but every team is forced to be somewhere around the middle, unless they start executing trades.

Now teams that believe they are only 1 piece away (Ex. NYJ-QB, MIN-QB, TEN-WR) can use their points on a player who can impact the team right away. Teams that need help in multiple areas (DET, CLE, CIN, most teams picking top 10) can spread out their points to build a more complete team.


Cons:

The popularity of the draft could take a big hit. Now with no idea when your team will pick someone, you literally have to watch the entire draft. Its possible this does begin more popular since its a new idea (imagine watching NYG and PHI trying to outbid each other for Jeremy Maclin). However, I expect this to kill the popularity of the draft among general fans.

Could the bidding process and rookie salary cap be anymore confusing? This is the area I need the most help, I can't figure out an easy to understand system to give the worst teams a small benefit without it being confusing.

Would this lead to more or less holdouts? Let's say St. Louis Rams win Jason Smith with a bid of 55 points with little competition. Later in the draft, Kansas City and Cleveland get into a huge bidding war over Tyson Jackson with the Chiefs winning with a bid of 65. When it comes contract time with Jason Smith, the Rams will argue his contract should be smaller than Jackson's. The agent will argue that the price doesn't mean Jackson is better than Smith.

Trades are gone. Trades are the most exciting part of the draft and this eliminates them. Technically teams could trade points but that isn't nearly as exciting.


Conclusion:

In conclusion, its basically a fun idea with a few flaws. Possible creating more problems than we currently have. If any could include an opinion on what they like or don't like about the idea, I would really appreciate it. Anyone planning to simply post 'This is stupid', just save your time...unless you could give reasons why it's stupid, that would help.

Sorry for such a long post but its a boring day at work and I needed something to do. And if anyone read this whole thing could you just let me know. I'm trying to decide if I should even bother writing stuff this long. Thanks.

jsa230
08-28-2009, 11:08 AM
if it ain't broke, don't fix it

wonderbredd24
08-28-2009, 11:21 AM
If they simply change the way rookie contracts work to be more like the NBA, 1st pick would be the most desirable pick again.

You would also see more positions picked earlier since teams do not feel like they have to take certain positions because of the money like quarterback. You might see a center go in the top 10 or a linebacker go #1

tjsunstein
08-28-2009, 11:30 AM
I'm be willing to be something changes in the near future regarding rookie contracts.

broth223
08-28-2009, 11:40 AM
I'm be willing to be something changes in the near future regarding rookie contracts.

Has *** Ork Wang started teaching english again?

But a major flaw with this method would be in season trades you would not be able to know how many points you would have so there is no way to trade said points.

Splat
08-28-2009, 12:11 PM
This is from someone who likes Batman Begins more than The Dark Knight.

Wait what?

Abaddon
08-29-2009, 08:00 AM
if it ain't broke, don't fix it

It's broke. Somebody needs to fix it.

Xonraider
08-29-2009, 09:17 AM
It's broke. Somebody needs to fix it.

Exactly, these rookies are earning way too much money.

BeerBaron
08-29-2009, 09:56 AM
Ya, it's quite broke.....we're just so used to it's broken aspects that we don't really think of them except as an afterthought or when someone holds out.

The best thing that I think can be done is a rookie salary structure, and see where that goes.

Xonraider
08-29-2009, 10:04 AM
Ya, it's quite broke.....we're just so used to it's broken aspects that we don't really think of them except as an afterthought or when someone holds out.

The best thing that I think can be done is a rookie salary structure, and see where that goes.

I believe the NFL should implement something like a determined salary for the 1st overall and then it decreases somewhat every other 3 picks or something and every year have the salary increase for some small percentage because it grows anyways and it encourages juniors to stay in college and receive their degrees.

Strongside
08-29-2009, 10:44 AM
I really liked Scott's idea, where there is a set scale for the first 15 picks.

broth223
08-29-2009, 10:55 AM
But a major flaw with this method would be in season trades you would not be able to know how many points you would have so there is no way to trade said points.

Yeah broth makes a great point I want to have broth's children.

falloutboy14
08-29-2009, 08:48 PM
If there were no system present, I think I'd do something like in the OP.

Each team has a rookie salary cap based on their previous season record/playoff finish. Beyond that, it would essentially be like free-agency. Teams could give an offer to any player coming out of college, & players would be free to accept any offer given to them. Perhaps teams could make offers to players one week before they could accept them so teams would be able to bid accordingly. This way the market can set the price on players.

It also allows teams more flexibility in how they spend their money. If a team would prefer to spend their money and get 20 good players, instead of funneling 80% of their draft $ into a top-5 pick, they can.

It would benefit the draft picks as well. Players would have control over which team they play for. If you've lived in Florida your whole life and don't want to move to the cold of GB or Minn, you can factor that into your choice. Players can use the system the team uses, their roster, coaching staff, a variety of factors to weigh into their decision.

It would also end the hold-outs & end-less negotiations that occur. Once a team drafts a player, the team loses leverage since it's now invested something (the draft pick) into the player. In my system, players would be signed relatively quickly. Since many teams would be able to bid, the market would establish a price just like it does in free agency. If players don't like that price, there's always a 9-5 job.

Lots of kinks I'm sure, but just my thoughts.

GB12
08-29-2009, 11:48 PM
That's a terrible idea.

phlysac
08-30-2009, 12:43 AM
I really liked Scott's idea, where there is a set scale for the first 15 picks.

Teams (for the most part) try to do this as the current situation exists. The player typical earns 18% more than the player selected in the same draft slot the year prior to them. The problems start to occur when teams raise or lower that increase at will.

KCJ58
08-30-2009, 12:50 AM
you made some strong arguments & did say some good stuff about the draft, but your soultion sounds bad, 1st of all it's too complicated for even you to figure it out, everyone likes the way it is if they want to make the draft better they should stop showing players on the phone right before a team time is up to pick i hate that, i love the suspence in picks but anyway auction draft isn't the way to go either

JT Jag
08-30-2009, 02:26 AM
Three words.

Scaling rookie salary cap.

JeffSamardzijaIRISH
08-30-2009, 10:49 AM
Three words.

Scaling rookie salary cap.

That's four words, my friend.

Iamcanadian
09-02-2009, 03:54 PM
It's broke. Somebody needs to fix it.

Says who. Sure the fans think rookies get paid too much but the NFL has never had a problem with rookie salaries except that it drives up veteran salaries. Other than that, the NFL has a system of pay that suits the owners just fine.
You hear all the time about it being difficult to trade out of the top 5 picks because of money, yet prior to FA, there were around 2 or 3 top 5 picks traded in a decade, so trading top 5 picks has always been a rarity and nothing has changed today except it has become pretty standard that you only trade up into the top 5 for a QB due to salary cap implications. The Jets had no problem trading up into the top 5 for Sanchez when they had a need and felt a QB would be available.
NFL players on average are the lowest paid athletes in major sports because their contracts are only partially guaranteed. Even the star's contracts will only be fully paid if they they stay healthy and produce. If they get seriously injured or fail to perform up to standards they will never see a large portion of their contracts.
The owners have won every strike or lockout that has occurred in the NFL, yet they made no attempt to change the basic way the salary structure works, why, because they love the current system. Sure they want to get a better % of the profits in a new CBA but I don't believe they have any interest in changing the basic way the salary structure works and I think they will simply use the rookie pay as a bargaining chip in any negotiations and it will be the 1st thing given up by the owners for what they really want, which is more money in their own pockets.
As a final note, comparing the NFL system of pay to the NBA system is ridiculous. The NBA allows total FA for every player after only a few seasons in the league, The NFL owners will never allow that. The NBA has 12 roster spots and to clear the 20 million needed to sign a big star is almost impossible, so FA has little impact in the NBA. However in pro football, unlimited FA would be a disaster with all the stars headed to the bigger centers. The NFL owners have absolutely no interest in unlimited FA, so you will never see a rookie salary cap in the NFL especially with a an average of 4 and a half year career in the NFL.
IMO, the rookie salary cap will never see the light of day in the NFL and is nothing but a red herring in the coming negotiations for a new CBA.

DeepThreat
09-02-2009, 04:15 PM
Here's what they need to do:

1. Each spot has a set in salary.
2. All rookie contracts are guaranteed.
3. Contracts are shortened to 2-3 year deals, so rookies can prove themselves and get big contracts.

Veteran players hate how much rookies get paid, and so do NFL owners. The only people who like it are rookies, and they don't have any say in it. The above scenario is fair for everyone IMO.