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awfullyquiet
09-03-2009, 10:37 AM
http://buccaneers.com/news/newsdetail.aspx?newsid=7280&trid=home

Quarterbacks Coach Greg Olson has been promoted to offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach.

"Word is he didnt like leftwich getting the starting job"

Brent
09-03-2009, 10:44 AM
I wonder if BC will take him back? ;)

awfullyquiet
09-03-2009, 10:45 AM
no. i wish though.

NY+Giants=NYG
09-03-2009, 10:58 AM
That is basically the key element in the NFL. The coaches consider themselves a coaching fraternity, and protect their own. So to crack that is hard to begin with, and if you do get an "in" you better be able to play well with others, or you're going to get fired, and possibly blackballed. Add your usual coaching drama to the fold, which to be fair, is at ALL levels of football, and it explains why guys like this get fired.

I think in Kansas City it was more of a philosophical different between two Off. coaches, but that's just my opinion

The Unseen
09-03-2009, 11:13 AM
Who'd he want to start? McCown?

Leftwich should do fine in TB. By fine I mean good enough until Freeman comes along.

awfullyquiet
09-03-2009, 11:20 AM
Who'd he want to start? McCown?

Leftwich should do fine in TB. By fine I mean good enough until Freeman comes along.

apparently he wanted josh johnson to start... and i can't argue with that...

YAYareaRB
09-03-2009, 11:23 AM
Holy Moly.. That sucks. He should go coach at Miami so he can have an opportunities to kick BC's ass.

yourfavestoner
09-03-2009, 11:39 AM
Who'd he want to start? McCown?

Leftwich should do fine in TB. By fine I mean good enough until Freeman comes along.

Sometimes I still think we cut the wrong quarterback.

Brent
09-03-2009, 11:42 AM
apparently he wanted josh johnson to start... and i can't argue with that...
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2009/writers/jim_trotter/03/25/qbs/josh-johnson.jpg

how can you not love JJ?

Chucky
09-03-2009, 11:46 AM
**** this.

Jags would have been a great OC and I would have had no problem starting JJ.

Every day I am getting more frustrated with Raheem Morris.

I miss Chucky :(

iBoldin
09-03-2009, 01:12 PM
What a stupid move. Absolutely horrible, and just because Jagodzinski didn't agree with the starting quarterback?

I just find it to be kind of an asshole type of move 10 days before the season. If you foresaw these problems possibly happening, at least do it earlier or don't hire the guy at all. He's really without a job now for the year in most cases.

TitleTown088
09-03-2009, 01:15 PM
**** this.

Jags would have been a great OC and I would have had no problem starting JJ.

Every day I am getting more frustrated with Raheem Morris.

I miss Chucky :(
Jags was a good coach. Loved having him in Green Bay.

M.O.T.H.
09-03-2009, 01:18 PM
If Dallas loses to the them next week I'm going to eat my hat. The Bucs are a bit of a mess right now. I want to see a blowout, dammit.

T-RICH49
09-03-2009, 01:29 PM
Todd Haley started a trend....canning the OC right before the season lol

Rosebud
09-03-2009, 01:36 PM
This kind of makes me hope for a Killdrive firing, although this late that might not be a good thing.

cvv84
09-03-2009, 02:02 PM
The Bucs reportedly grew concerned that Jagodzinski knew how to install a zone blocking running scheme on the team, but not much else. (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/03/jagodzinski-not-equipped-to-direct-nfl-offense/)
Stroud writes that the decision to let Jagodzinski go had nothing to do with the quarterback situation; the former Boston College head coach was in Byron Leftwich's corner. Jagodzinki reportedly got along with everyone; he just wasn't ready.

Most of Jags experience has been with blocking and when he was the Packers offensive coordinator he didn't call the plays nor did he call them at BC so the issue does make some sense.

PACKmanN
09-03-2009, 02:02 PM
edit: after reading cvv84 comment i had to rewrite this. I wouldn't mind him back in GB as the o-line coach, but it's too late.

no bare feet
09-03-2009, 02:56 PM
He will be the OC for some MAC school.

PACKmanN
09-03-2009, 03:18 PM
KC better keep an eye out for Jags.

trkaline
09-03-2009, 03:28 PM
If you make a hire in this league, they should be allowed "atleast" one season to see what they can do. I don't know how you could possibly see a member of your staffs potential or really anything if he doesn't get a shot to work it out. This close to week one I don't see any positives coming from this decision, just a big steaming pile of negatives and now you have less of a shot of entering contention then you did before.

Strongside
09-03-2009, 04:05 PM
If you make a hire in this league, they should be allowed "atleast" one season to see what they can do. I don't know how you could possibly see a member of your staffs potential or really anything if he doesn't get a shot to work it out. This close to week one I don't see any positives coming from this decision, just a big steaming pile of negatives and now you have less of a shot of entering contention then you did before.

Well I don't know about that. If a problem player would be a distraction, a problem coach would be a hundred times worse of a distraction. When millions of dollars are on the line, you don't want to mess around with that. Of course, no one here is exactly sure whats going on.

Beans
09-03-2009, 04:07 PM
what the ****.

wonderbredd24
09-03-2009, 04:12 PM
rough couple of months for this guy

P-L
09-03-2009, 04:26 PM
Odd move, but if Tampa thought that Olsen would do a better job than it was the right one. I was unaware that he did not call the plays in Green Bay. That makes me think he was way too overhyped this past offseason.

Nalej
09-03-2009, 05:23 PM
Let me get this straight- a secondary coach turn head coach didn't think a head coach was ready to be an OC?

TACKLE
09-03-2009, 05:40 PM
And with the first pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, the Tampa Bay Buccanears select......

PACKmanN
09-03-2009, 06:08 PM
And with the first pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, the Tampa Bay Buccanears select......

That would ****, they would have to take Bryant, Benn, or Suh.

TACKLE
09-03-2009, 06:10 PM
That would ****, they would have to take Bryant, Benn, or Suh.

Gerald McCoy would be perfect.

PACKmanN
09-03-2009, 06:13 PM
Gerald McCoy would be perfect.

They're switching to the 4-3 with Bates, but keeping some of the Tampa 2 plays. They need a NT, McCoy would fail like how Dorsey failed last year.

Nalej
09-03-2009, 06:16 PM
u mean 34? or am I missin the Dorsey comparison (sp?)

Caddy
09-03-2009, 06:24 PM
This is actually surprising to me. There has been way too much off-field controversy this off-season. I'm not looking forward to the regular season.

Chucky
09-03-2009, 06:24 PM
Gerald McCoy is exactly what the bucs need.

They have their NT in Miller and now they news a DT who can provide a legit interior pass rush and take pressure off of gaines

PACKmanN
09-03-2009, 07:25 PM
u mean 34? or am I missin the Dorsey comparison (sp?)

No, they were a Tampa 2 team last year, and now they will switch to the 4-3, what the Packers ran when they had Jim Bates. This would require them to have DTs who are space eaters, not pass rushers, to open up holes and room for the LBers and their secondary will pall the bump-and-run more often.

Thats why McCoy will not be a good draft pick for them, he would be a waste.

Nalej
09-03-2009, 07:26 PM
Got it. Thanks.