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RaiderNation
09-13-2009, 11:51 AM
Lets get some pre game, during the game and post game talk. Our Thread has been real quite for some time....

Raiderz4Life
09-13-2009, 01:40 PM
I hope Zach Miller tears it up....

RaiderNation
09-13-2009, 02:16 PM
He should since DHB and Murphy are starting. I expect DMC and Miller to get a god amount of catches.

Stash
09-13-2009, 06:46 PM
I've got my lube ready.

Donno
09-13-2009, 09:08 PM
Ill be there, its all up to Russell. Anyone else going?

619
09-14-2009, 08:29 AM
Starting Lineups

Offense
QB – JaMarcus Russell
RB – Darren McFadden
FB – Oren O’Neal
WR – Louis Murphy
TE – Zach Miller
LT - Mario Henderson
LG – Robert Gallery
C – Chris Morris
RG – Cooper Carlisle
RT – Cornell Green
WR - Darrius Heyward-Bey


Defense
RDE – Richard Seymour
DT - Tommy Kelly
DT – Gerard Warren
LDE – Greg Ellis
OLB - Thomas Howard
MLB - Kirk Morrison
OLB - Ricky Brown
CB - Nnamdi Asomugha
CB – Chris Johnson
SS – Tyvon Branch
FS - Hiram Eugene

Raiderz4Life
09-14-2009, 11:12 AM
I hope zach miller gets like 10 catches for 150 yards and like 5 TDs.....he's my starting TE and i started him over John Carlson...im pretty sure imma regret that 8(

locseti
09-14-2009, 01:44 PM
The raiders will be wearing the WHITE throwbacks with silver numbers, I wonder if the chargers will be sporting the powder blues? If so, has the potential to be the sexiest game ever. At least we know were not gonna get blown out like last years opener, thank god deangeslow is gone and screwin up the redskins season. He had a terrible game yesterday, the giants young receiving corps made him look silly. he and his 20yd cushion won't be ruining our opener.

locseti
09-14-2009, 01:51 PM
Everybody talks about the d line being a huge problem in stopping the run, but we need to slide Morrison to the outside and get a bigger MLB, Morrison just doesn't have the body to man the middle, and Ricky brown probably couldn't start for another team. LB's are a big part of our inability to stop the run.

Stash
09-14-2009, 03:22 PM
I can't believe we couldn't find someone better than Cornell Green to play RT. That guy is completely useless.

619
09-14-2009, 03:31 PM
I can't believe we couldn't find someone better than Cornell Green to play RT. That guy is completely useless.

The sad part is that I'm not even sure Barnes would be an upgrade at the position once he returns from injury.

bernbabybern820
09-14-2009, 03:45 PM
After seeing the Chiefs and Broncos play yesterday, i would be content even if we just keep the game close the whole game. I have to get up early tomorrow too since i'm on the east coast.

RaiderNation
09-14-2009, 04:27 PM
I predicted a 24-16 loss for us. Gonna say the main reason we lose is getting sacked and having to settle for FG's. I think our run defense will be better, but still needs a true NT, and our back up cbs are going to get worked. Russell will go like 13-24 for 160 yards and a int, DMC and Bush will combine for 115 yards on the ground and a td, Miller and DMC wil lead in catches and DHB and Murphy will combine for 5 cacthes.

bernbabybern820
09-14-2009, 09:44 PM
TOUCHDOWN! Looking great so far.

slightlyaraiderfan
09-14-2009, 11:41 PM
our line is giving jamarcus time, he's blowing it

Stash
09-15-2009, 12:41 AM
Well, we looked pretty damn good in the 1st half. The 2nd half was more like the Raiders we are used to seeing. Abandoning the run + playing prevent D = perfect way to lose a game.

doingthisinsteadofwork
09-15-2009, 12:43 AM
Russell sucks.Hes Joe Ayoob on steroids.Its a 50/50 chance that he either throws a very catchable ball and even then it can be a pass that can get his reciever hurt(Higgins) or it can be 10 yards away from the nearest reciever. I swear a 2-3 yard toss will be 4 feet over the guys head its just ridiculous watching him play and wondering why was he the #1 pick.Gradkowski actually looked better.The only thing worse than Jamarcus was the playcalling offensively in the 2nd half.Just atrocious.

Stash
09-15-2009, 12:47 AM
Russell sucks.Hes Joe Ayoob on steroids.Its a 50/50 chance that he either throws a very catchable ball and even then it can be a pass that can get his reciever hurt(Higgins) or it can be 10 yards away from the nearest reciever. I swear a 2-3 yard toss will be 4 feet over the guys head its just ridiculous watching him play and wondering why was he the #1 pick.Gradkowski actually looked better.The only thing worse than Jamarcus was the playcalling offensively in the 2nd half.Just atrocious.
Joe Ayoob lol. That brings back memories....bad ones.

bernbabybern820
09-15-2009, 12:52 AM
With Fargas healthy and while Schillens is getting healthy we should definitely split out DMAC a lot more.

NIN1984
09-15-2009, 12:54 AM
heartbreaking loss but hopefully we can do some good things this season. Russell was bad, but playing with two rookie WRs season isn't easy. We had way too many drops, way too many over throws by Russell, every time he goes back to pass i freak out, one pass is awful, than amazing, than crap.
At least Zach Miller should have a huge season, McFadden and Bush should do a lot of damage and we went from the worst looking defense in the preseason to looking really solid vs a very talented offense.

Seymour was amazing.

RaiderNation
09-15-2009, 12:58 AM
Impressed with our D and Seymour coming in not knowing any plays and playing great. Offence looked very good in the 1st half, Russells play in the 3rd and most of the 4th hurt us. DHB dropped way to many balls. Still very excited for what we have. Remember we get our #1 guy back in Schilens soon and we still dont know whats up with Walker.

619
09-15-2009, 01:01 AM
In regards to DHB, we can't worry about his progression this season as much as winning some games. Right now we have two starting caliber receivers who could help us (Schilens, Murphy). DHB's got too much work ahead of him to be any sort of a factor, and it's going to take immense work in the offseason with Russell before I'd expect him to get a feel for the speed and timing of the pro game.

bernbabybern820
09-15-2009, 01:08 AM
Lets hope Cable give Walker a shot next week as well. He couldn't be worse than DHB or our 3rd, 4th, and 5th receivers. He doesn't play any special teams though so if he can't produce on offense he is worthless.

RaiderNation
09-15-2009, 01:12 AM
Thing is with DHB, he opened up the field alot for us. Every play they gotta have a deep saftey to help the CB. With Murphy stepping up and should of had 2 tds, he looks like our #2 right now. Zach Miller once again shows us why he is one of the most underrated TEs out there

redbills
09-15-2009, 01:22 AM
I feel for you guys

Raiderz4Life
09-15-2009, 01:23 AM
That TD they took from us was utter ********.

RaiderNation
09-15-2009, 01:29 AM
I dont get why that Td was overturned. Landed on both feet in the endzone with control, looked like 1 knee hit the ground then the ball start to come out. Thats the NFL for you..

locseti
09-15-2009, 01:43 AM
raidernation, you spelled future wrong in your sig. Like someone else said, I freak out every time russell drops back to throw, and I bet the coaching staff does too. How long can we go with him. I missed Garcia so much tonite, and I was actually more comfortable with gradkowski in. If we had even a shaun hill type QB, we would have won this game with ease. DHB should not even be dressing yet, anyone can open up the field if they run straight down the sideline, but he is not a threat to do anything in the passing game. Murphy is worlds ahead of him so far and making a fraction of what he makes. I can believe Beyward Hey has 24 million guaranteed. Crazy seeing HUff actually make a play. Tyvon Branch was all over the place tonite, and a beast on special teams. Seymour is a game changer, i have been and still am completely fine with that trade, especially if we lock him up. I see us franchising him if we dont. Nnamdi was phenomenal as usual, Routt made a key mistake, and I still think Ricky Brown sucks and is nothing more than depth on any other team in the league. Where was he on all those sproles dumpoffs in the middle of the field? that killed us. I cant wait til Nick Miller is back because Louis Rankin offers us absolutely nothing in the kick return game. Overall I have suffered a huge let down tonight but am satisfied with where the team is at right now.

nfrillman
09-15-2009, 02:04 AM
That TD they took from us was utter ********.

That was a rip off. I wouldn't be surprised if the league issues an apology about it. What I really don't get about that ruling is that if someone dives into the endzone and fumbles it without being hit it still isn't a fumble, which is fine, but why doesn't clearly landing with two feet, possession, and a full body roll not count. Why is the ruling on TD's so different on runs and passes. In my opinion a TD catch becomes a TD the very instant the guy catches it. Anything after that shouldn't matter. Anyways, tough loss to swallow for you guys, but at least you didn't lose 28-0 to the Seahawks.

619
09-15-2009, 07:48 AM
Thing is with DHB, he opened up the field alot for us. Every play they gotta have a deep saftey to help the CB. With Murphy stepping up and should of had 2 tds, he looks like our #2 right now. Zach Miller once again shows us why he is one of the most underrated TEs out there

DHB would be better off taking a 'redshirt' year here. I'm hoping the return of Schilens relegates him to the slot where his skillset would serve better in the short-term until he improves his game fundamentally to where he could consistently disengage from press coverage and learn how to use his speed to his advantage in gaining separation, which includes grasping the tiny nuances of the position.

Stash
09-15-2009, 02:44 PM
DHB needs to learn how to catch first and foremost.

FlyingElvis
09-15-2009, 03:01 PM
In regards to DHB, we can't worry about his progression this season as much as winning some games. Right now we have two starting caliber receivers who could help us (Schilens, Murphy). DHB's got too much work ahead of him to be any sort of a factor, and it's going to take immense work in the offseason with Russell before I'd expect him to get a feel for the speed and timing of the pro game.
The fact that DHB is behind your 4th round rookie WR is beyond ridiculous.

I dont get why that Td was overturned. Landed on both feet in the endzone with control, looked like 1 knee hit the ground then the ball start to come out. Thats the NFL for you..

That TD they took from us was utter ********.

Like someone else mentioned, the double standard for pass vs. rush TDs is a little annoying, but the rule is pretty clear and they made the right call. It looked to me like a simple rookie misqueue, which really sucks for Murphy b/c he looks incredible.

Basically, if the player is on his way to the ground (falling or getting knocked down) while catching the ball he has to come up off the ground with the ball.

Here's a solid article on the ruling. ---> linked (http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/09/15/sorry-raiders-fans-rule-book-backs-decision-to-overturn-louis/)

I'm glad Seymour impressed. He's a beast and I hope Al finally gives a big payday to a guy who truly deserves it and, more importantly, will continue to work his ass off every day after getting it.

Congrats, sort of . . . the Raiders really looked like a solid team last night. Hopefully Russell makes some even bigger strides in his development this year.

Raiderz4Life
09-15-2009, 06:08 PM
If our offense had been a little more explosive and cohesive we wouda won by at least a TD

BamaFalcon59
09-15-2009, 08:59 PM
Murphy has looked like a beast both times I have watched y'all (Saints, Chargers). If he can catch the ball and hold on to it he will be great for y'all.

LookItsAlDavis
09-15-2009, 10:24 PM
Besides the drops, did anyone else notice DHB just completely failing when it came to running routes? On the play that Higgins got annihilated you can see him falling on his ass trying to run a comeback. I lol'd.

bernbabybern820
09-16-2009, 07:19 AM
I think the field was pretty slick. I also saw a couple of defenders slipping on the grass a few times.

Raiderz4Life
09-16-2009, 11:42 AM
I hate our field...why can't we get a new stadium built for football only?

I was gonna suggest we kick the As out cuz they suck but....the same argument can be used against the Raiders 8S