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DiG
09-17-2009, 05:55 PM
I think its clear Zorn is in over his head here. Too much too soon. Personally, I voted for Gruden because I think he could be a long term answer. Cowher would be my second choice and then probably Shanahan third.

Canadian_draft_fan
09-17-2009, 09:06 PM
I voted for Cowher. I'm no fan of Gruden, I think he is horribly overrated and doesn't develop QBs as much as collect them. Shanahan is good for offense but has had some pathetic defenses during his tenure. Holmgren is getting older and may have lost the fire.

Cowher has his drawbacks but might inspire the overpaid bums on this team to live up to their talent.

RaiderNation
09-17-2009, 09:13 PM
If you guys got Cowher, your defense would be great. Probably run a mix 4-3/3-4. Haynesworth and Osackpo would be looking great

critesy
09-17-2009, 10:01 PM
i voted zorn cause i still believe in the team to do good this year and he will stay and campbell will get offered a super contract and be in the same offense for 3 years!

D-Unit
09-18-2009, 12:59 PM
Brian Billick wouldn't be a bad choice...

treyskins
09-22-2009, 02:27 PM
Pick your poison;

Zorn has never been an offensive co-ordinator and sometimes it shows.It is looking like he cannot develop campbell so both should be gone in2010.

Snyder is looking for an offensive guy to spark some life into his team,which might explain why he left gregg williams/spagnuolo/schwartz and meeks on the bench.

Shanahan is my bet, but i dont rate him highly as without elway and terrelle davis what did he achieve when he got g.m. duties.One thing is he has never had a defense in denver as solid as ours.But coaching in the afc west is a cakewalk compared to the brutal nfc east!

Cowher has been approached before and turned us down,why go back to him?
He would take less dollars to coach carolina panthers.
A defensive guy(help from dick lebeau)what could he do for our offense?

Gruden could be interesting as he tends to have feuds with his players but have we come so low that we have to employ ex raider coaches?

Hey,we got Gibbs from the san diego chargers why dont we get their current coach as they have a potent offense.
O..............
Maybe not.

DiG
09-22-2009, 02:42 PM
Gruden could be interesting as he tends to have feuds with his players but have we come so low that we have to employ ex raider coaches?


its low because hes an ex raider coach? he won two straight division titles and went to the afc championship with the raiders. hes also a super bowl winner. he had a lot of ups and downs in tampa. 3 division titles and a super bowl victory to go along with 3 years under .500 and 2 decent 9-7 seasons of which the Bucs suffered some serious injuries.

im not saying that gruden is the answer but its definitely an intriguing scenario. we could continue to build on the west coast offense and bring in a guy like pennington that knows scheme. draft a QB/OT combo in the first and second round and let the rookie and brennan battle it out behind pennington for the future.

D-Unit
09-22-2009, 08:07 PM
John Fox might get fired... Del Rio too.

Splat
09-22-2009, 08:11 PM
John Fox might get fired... Del Rio too.

I'm not really a fan of either as a HC.

skinzzfan25
09-23-2009, 07:02 AM
I'd say other. Not sure who though.

I wouldn't want any of those guys. I just don't see them coming into Washington and winning. Could any of their egos be subsided by Snyder? Probably not.

I say keep Zorn, see what he's got for this year. It's too early to write him off yet.

Geo
10-13-2009, 11:43 AM
Sources: Gruden atop Snyder's wish list (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports/Sources_-Gruden-atop-Snyder_s-wish-list-8371348-64019622.html)

I found this to be the best/worst part:

Snyder is seeking is a candidate willing to leave major personnel decisions to Cerrato and the owner.
= FAIL

2 Live Crew
10-13-2009, 12:56 PM
Sigh...that quote from Geo is just well...FAIL

Ladies and Gentleman introducing the most hopeless franchise in football...YOUR WASHINGTON REDSKINS

DiG
10-16-2009, 08:15 AM
some guy over at extremeskins posted this about gruden and it had me rolling so i thought id share:

"Gruden really talks this way ALL THE TIME, doesn't he?

Can you imagine going to dinner with this guy?

LKB: Hey, Jon. Want to go to Olive Garden tonight?

JG: Let me tell you something, Olive Garden is right at the top of the list of places that I like to eat. They can flat-out make pasta. And those breadsticks can be served to me at any time.

LKB: Um...ok...if not there, maybe Fridays?

JG: Now Friday's is a place that I just love to eat. They serve food with intensity there. They make it happen every time they come to your table. And those servers give 110 percent all the time. And you gotta love the flair.

LKB: I have a headache. Do you think you can tone it down a bit?

JG: Let me tell you something. When I have a headache, for me, it's Aleve. Aleve never lets me down. It's got intensity. It's got heart.

LKB: I gotta go."

Shane P. Hallam
10-16-2009, 08:19 AM
I bet it will be Shanahan.

DiG
10-16-2009, 09:28 AM
I bet it will be Shanahan.

im pulling for gruden but i can just as equally see shanahan. snyders redskin one private jet was tracked earlier this week to tampa and back. if you watched usf vs cinci last night youll know who was in tampa this week...only way holmgren comes in is if zorn stays on somehow in some form. i just cant see holmgren taking over if zorn gets the can. word is they are too good of friends.

Geo
10-16-2009, 10:38 AM
I don't think it will be Shanahan, not unless Snyder gives up personnel control. Shanahan is going to stand firm on that, after having had what he had in Denver for all those years, when his previous head coaching tenure in Oakland obviously didn't last anywhere near that long nor was anywhere near as enjoyable.

Especially when Pat Bowlen still owes him $20M for the three years left remaining on the contract, after firing him following the 2008 season.

DiG
11-02-2009, 04:04 PM
Redskins Insider today posted that when asked about the skins decision to strip playcalling duties form Zorn, Holmgren said he thought it was very unfair to put him in that position.

"The position they put him in, it shouldnt happen. You can be upset with me as a play call or how the teams doing, then fire me. But don't do that. Dont pull the rug out form under me, tie my hands, make me look foolish, take away what I came there to do in the first place. Dont do that"

"That bothered me alot." Holmgren said. "Jim Zorn is one of the nicest people. Im a nice guy, but Im not that nice. What they did, I did not like it at all."

well i guess there goes Holmgren from the potential list of coaches...come on gruden!

skinzzfan25
11-02-2009, 05:53 PM
Redskins Insider today posted that when asked about the skins decision to strip playcalling duties form Zorn, Holmgren said he thought it was very unfair to put him in that position.

"The position they put him in, it shouldnt happen. You can be upset with me as a play call or how the teams doing, then fire me. But don't do that. Dont pull the rug out form under me, tie my hands, make me look foolish, take away what I came there to do in the first place. Dont do that"

"That bothered me alot." Holmgren said. "Jim Zorn is one of the nicest people. Im a nice guy, but Im not that nice. What they did, I did not like it at all."

well i guess there goes Holmgren from the potential list of coaches...come on gruden!

Gruden said essentially the same thing on MNF against the Eagles. Don't have a quote, but I remember something along those lines. Who would want to deal with Snyder's crap?

DiG
11-19-2009, 09:18 AM
Im hoping that the Bills come to an agreement with Shanahan. Although Id like Cohwer, I dont think he would come here with Dan and I dont want to switch to a 3-4. Gruden looks like hes going to stick to broadcasting (ill believe it when i see it but lets just say he does). Holmgren is unlikely due to his relationship with Zorn. So for me, that leaves my two favorite options.

One option would be Brian Billick. I like this option a lot. I like Billicks attitude as a coach. Hes a proven winner and still relatively young. If Snyder wants a vet coach than I am pulling for Billick or Gruden.

The other option that I am hoping for is bringing in a GM and what I call "tomorrows" head coach. A younger candidate thats put together a good resume, a strong tack record, and is tough. My personal favorite combo would be Chris Polian and Jim Harbaugh.

Other Potential GMs I like are Eric DeCosta and Morroco Brown. Other potential coaches I like would be Leslie Frazier and maybe even Danny Smith.

2 Live Crew
11-19-2009, 09:43 AM
I like the Harbaugh idea, hadn't thought of that. It seems that he likes where he is at Stanford now.

However, Snyder's cash can certainly have an effect on anyone.

DiG
11-19-2009, 10:15 AM
I like the Harbaugh idea, hadn't thought of that. It seems that he likes where he is at Stanford now.

However, Snyder's cash can certainly have an effect on anyone.

Yea I know Harbaugh interviewed last year for HC spot with the Jets so Im sure hes interested and if we offered him the right money and had hired a quality GM I think hed bite.

I salivate thinking about the idea of Polian, Harbough, and drafting Andrew Luck.

2 Live Crew
11-19-2009, 03:40 PM
Yea I'd be down for Harbaugh, he seems like a fiery type head coach, which is what we need.

Plus his brother would just be down the street. Beltway Harbaugh battle.

treyskins
11-20-2009, 11:55 AM
Yea I know Harbaugh interviewed last year for HC spot with the Jets so Im sure hes interested and if we offered him the right money and had hired a quality GM I think hed bite.

I salivate thinking about the idea of Polian, Harbough, and drafting Andrew Luck.

I think Zorn has screwed up any chance of boydanny taking a chance on a young G.M./Coach combo.
Snyder has rightly taken so much flak this year.
His track record is he needs a big name to hide behind-see marty/Gibbs/Spurrier(a college legend) and attempts to get Cowher and Shanny.

Our only hope is the new head coach brings in a brilliant mind to be our G.M. and vinny of course is canned.

DiG
11-23-2009, 11:08 PM
looks like jerry gray is the front runner for the memphis job. i know hes been rumored in the past as a candidate for various jobs but looks like this could be one that he finally takes. i always like gray but im also not happy with where our secondary is now. with that said i think hes a good coach.

BleedBurgundy96
11-24-2009, 01:01 AM
I voted for Gruden since Cowher doesnt want the job. Cowher would be my first choice but since he doesnt want to be here I went with Chucky.

Yea I know Harbaugh interviewed last year for HC spot with the Jets so Im sure hes interested and if we offered him the right money and had hired a quality GM I think hed bite.

I salivate thinking about the idea of Polian, Harbough, and drafting Andrew Luck.

Is Andrew Luck available for the 2010 Draft? I thought he was a freshman.

DiG
11-24-2009, 08:11 AM
I voted for Gruden since Cowher doesnt want the job. Cowher would be my first choice but since he doesnt want to be here I went with Chucky.



Is Andrew Luck available for the 2010 Draft? I thought he was a freshman.

nah not till 2011 at the earliest. most likely not till 2012.

BleedBurgundy96
11-24-2009, 01:42 PM
nah not till 2011 at the earliest. most likely not till 2012.

Cool thats what I thought. I was just making sure.

Id rather have Bradford in 2010 though.

D-Unit
11-25-2009, 12:47 PM
Whatever you do, don't get Brian Billick. He is a QB killer and we can't have that with Colt.

treyskins
11-30-2009, 02:07 PM
For what it is worth, 0n 11/25 on espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat

chris mortenson said"Alot of people in the league will be surprised if Shanny is NOT the next coach of the redskins."

So that makes him the favorite?
Aside from a change in offense,he will most likely change our D to a base 3-4 alignment.
Any thoughts on that change of set-up?

Haynesworth and griff/jarmon either side of a new nose tackle with Orakpo and Carter(i know he wont like it) as rush linebackers.

In the Secondary there will be changes either way after this season.

rodgers 4 mvp
12-22-2009, 08:43 AM
I think that Cower will go to Carolinia, so they may go after Fox.

Also Harbaugh may be a good target.

Mabey Joe Gibbs will come back to.

2 Live Crew
12-22-2009, 04:13 PM
Ok, looks like a lot of options in this thread are gone now...

Let's assume, no Gruden, Holmgren, Zorn, Harbaugh, and Cowher (prefers Carolina)

Shanahan last man standing for this job? I'm warming to the idea Shanahan more every day.

Also, what are the other legit choices we have here? Russ Grimm anyone?

D-Unit
01-05-2010, 07:15 PM
Deal in principle.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/05/AR2010010503458.html

skinzzfan25
01-05-2010, 07:23 PM
Hey, no Vinny, new regime?

I'd be interested to see how Allen drafts this offseason.

skinzzfan25
01-05-2010, 09:41 PM
Well it's official. Welcome to DC Shanny!

703SKINS202
01-06-2010, 01:43 PM
That press conference was so satisfying. Just two years ago we had a qb coach hired as the OC then promoted to HC when nobody else would take the job. His name was Jim Zorn, fearless leader of the Maroon and Black! :)

In all seriousness I am very excited to finally have some stability in place. I know Shanahan will work his hardest and I love what Bruce Allen brings to the table. Don't know what we will do at DC but as long as we bring in someone with some tenacity and ability to whip some of our lost players back into shape we could really have something in 2 to 3 years. I'm not going to say we are ready for the playoffs next year with so many question marks at QB, Line, Rb but at least the future is bright for once at the top, now we just need the players and the performance to go along with it.

HTTR.

JRTPlaya21
01-06-2010, 02:31 PM
Welcome coach Shanahan & Bruce Allen.

DiG
01-19-2010, 03:25 PM
Skins hire another coach with 3-4 experience and 4-3 experience.

Per JLC twitter: Redskins hire Jacob Burney as DL coach. Had worked with Mike Shanahan in Denver.

Bio:
http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=357&contentID=625

Texas Homer
01-25-2010, 02:41 PM
I'm a Texans fan, but I root for the Redskins as well. I was hoping that the Redskins would retain Zorn, but I really like the Shanahan pick up.

treyskins
02-08-2010, 02:30 PM
Congrats to the guy who should have been our head coach in 2008...........

Gregg Williams tamed the great peyton Manning(you cant give Brees and the saints offense all the credit) and now has a winners ring.
Hope it has sunk in to snyder how little he knows about football.