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Splat
09-19-2009, 03:55 PM
Chargers send Jamal Williams to IR (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/19/chargers-send-jamal-williams-to-ir/)

In a surprising move, the Chargers have placed defensive tackle Jamal Williams on injured reserve, with a triceps injury.

The team announced the move moments ago.

Williams had been listed as questionable for Sunday's game against the Ravens, due to an elbow injury.

JT Jag
09-19-2009, 03:57 PM
This is a very significant blow to the Chargers. Maybe more than Shawne Merriman's loss was last year.

Splat
09-19-2009, 03:59 PM
Agreed its a big loss.

Basileus777
09-19-2009, 04:04 PM
That dline was already pretty weak, now it's outright terrible. They have Castillo, who is vastly overrated and the other end spot is being held down by a rotation of garbage like Travis Johnson, Ogembi Nwagbuo and Andre Coleman. Who are they going to use at NT?

Going to na 4-3 isn't going to fix it either, they don't have the linebackers. Burnett and Philips would be the worst set of OLBs in the league.

I don't see much hope for the Chargers defense.

bigbluedefense
09-19-2009, 04:05 PM
They got an NT in the 6th round didn't they? Ive heard good things about him. I forgot his name.

This is a big blow, but at the same time, Williams isn't the player he used to be. Im curious to see now if they go to a 4-3 front without him.

Rosebud
09-19-2009, 04:12 PM
Merriman is still the most important player to that d. A big blow, but I don't think it's nearly the same caliber of lose as merriman was last year.

JFLO
09-19-2009, 04:15 PM
This sucks, I've always been a big Jamal Williams fan.

I hope he can bounce back from this, otherwise Terrence Cody or Arthur Jones can start to look for a house in San Diego.

A Perfect Score
09-19-2009, 04:15 PM
Well now they have no LT and no Jamal Williams. Looking pretty good for the Ravens tomorrow. With no Williams, our rushing attack should do some damage up the middle.

Basileus777
09-19-2009, 04:15 PM
Merriman is still the most important player to that d. A big blow, but I don't think it's nearly the same caliber of lose as merriman was last year.

If Merriman was at 100% you might be right. But from what I saw of him against Oakland, it going to take a while for him to get there. San Diego doesn't have the depth on their dline to cope with losing Williams.

Rosebud
09-19-2009, 04:19 PM
If Merriman was at 100% you might be right. But from what I saw of him against Oakland, it going to take a while for him to get there. San Diego doesn't have the depth on their dline to cope with losing Williams.

Well, Merriman is a big time player, and big time players step up when called upon so I guess we'll see how this affects the team. IMO if Merriman can step up and get back to where he was, or at least near that level, than they should be able to cope with a lesser DL than they've had in the past.

Splat
09-19-2009, 04:26 PM
I agree that he is not the player he once was but it is still a big blow I don't think they have any one that can come close to replacing him.

bernbabybern820
09-19-2009, 04:39 PM
Was he playing injured against the Raiders on Monday? He was basically a non factor the entire game.

NIN1984
09-19-2009, 04:58 PM
I didn't even notice him on monday. Nwagbuo played well, I guess he will take over.

Draft King
09-19-2009, 05:03 PM
Vaughn Martin the ultimate Canadian will right the ship.

iBoldin
09-19-2009, 05:25 PM
Vaughn Martin the ultimate Canadian will right the ship.

Vaughn Martin is championship. All Canadians know this.

falloutboy14
09-19-2009, 06:16 PM
The AFC West race is looking a lot more interesting then it did a week ago. Anyone else wondering if the Raiders can win this division?

CC.SD
09-19-2009, 06:24 PM
Well it's really great watching Corp flush the SC season down the toilet followed by learning about this, I assure you.

J-Wall is the Charger's only decent run stopper, it's open season. I'm the biggest homer around but somehow I just picked up Ray Rice on the waiver wire, so I've got that going for me, which is nice.

If I had to hazard I guess, I would say look for some more 4-3 alignments with Castillo and a combination of our depth on the inside, with Merriman, Phillips, and English on the outside. There is literally no one else on the roster big enough to do a decent job at 3-4 NT.

Vaughn Martin needs to learn the ropes way ahead of schedule, otherwise it's a Cesaire/OG/Coleman rotation at the tackle spot.

CC.SD
09-19-2009, 06:31 PM
not to jinx the chargers, but does this mean that philip rivers is pretty much the only player left trying to keep this from being the worst division in the history of the nfl? that's depressing.

Also Royal. maybe Sproles.

JT Jag
09-19-2009, 06:35 PM
Could the AFC West be the first division in NFL history with a 7-9 division winner?

CC.SD
09-19-2009, 06:36 PM
well royal's ****** with orton at the helm.

i guess LDT could find the fountain of youth somehow.

blech.

He's out too.

No, that's not going to happen JT.

vidae
09-19-2009, 06:37 PM
Could the AFC West be the first division in NFL history with a 7-9 division winner?

Gooooo Chiefs!

Splat
09-19-2009, 06:39 PM
Its pretty bad was such a great Div at one time.

falloutboy14
09-19-2009, 06:59 PM
Could the AFC West be the first division in NFL history with a 7-9 division winner?

I think this weekend will give us a big clue on the chargers. If they get a win, chances are they'll be back on track, or near it.

If not, the west plays the AFC North & NFC East. The Chargers get Miami & Tenn as their extra games. So ... 5 more division games, Cincy, Cleveland, Washington, Miami, & maybe Dallas. They need to get 7 from those 10 games, because the other 6 don't seem very winnable.

BmoreBlackByrdz
09-19-2009, 07:14 PM
Wow, with Nick Hartwig out, LT out, Travis Johnson out, and now Jamal Williams out, and possible even Louis Vasquez, the Chargers are going to be dirt thin against the Ravens tomorrow. Hopefully Cam Cameron utilizes there Run game instead of making Flacco throw so much so early in the game to take advantage of all this. Even though San Diego's pass D sucks, I'd like the see the Ravens get back to pounding the rock, old school style.

niel89
09-20-2009, 02:52 AM
Pound the hell out of the ball Baltimore.

Job
09-20-2009, 09:50 AM
It's all moot, Rivers will throw 5 touchdown passes and run for 2 every game.

LonghornsLegend
09-20-2009, 10:00 AM
Merriman is still the most important player to that d. A big blow, but I don't think it's nearly the same caliber of lose as merriman was last year.

I don't know about that, you can't underrate the value to a big NT like Williams in a 3-4 defense, he makes guys like Merriman's job alot easier. He may not be what he used to be, but the guy behind him isn't anywhere close to his level, and JW still was calling for double teams.


I think losing him is bigger then Merriman, especially with the depth concerns on the line already...Merriman is obviously not 100%, it's going to take at least a few games but the few times you saw him he just looked healthy enough to play, the explosion wasn't the same at all.


Teams are going to continue to run right at SD now in the heart of the defense.