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leroyisgod
09-28-2009, 06:56 PM
Almost time to rumble!!!

leroyisgod
09-28-2009, 08:30 PM
First TO of the year. Nice recovery after Barbie blew the tackle on 3rd and long.

D-Unit
09-28-2009, 08:59 PM
Romo is playing scared. He won't throw to any WR. It's either Witten or a checkdown on a RB. I'd be frustrated as hell if I were Williams or Crayton.

Oh and that last throw to Roy only goes to show how off Romo is with his WRs. Pretty disappointing to say the least.

leroyisgod
09-28-2009, 09:07 PM
Romo is playing scared. He won't throw to any WR. It's either Witten or a checkdown on a RB. I'd be frustrated as hell if I were Williams or Crayton.

Oh and that last throw to Roy only goes to show how off Romo is with his WRs. Pretty disappointing to say the least.

You're 100% correct. They need to open the offense up a little bit too. Felix needs to get the ball more. He's been the only one showing signs of life.

Staubach12
09-28-2009, 09:19 PM
****. Flozell is down. Here we go, Doug.

Staubach12
09-28-2009, 09:20 PM
Okay good. False alarm.

Staubach12
09-28-2009, 09:27 PM
GOD DAMNIT PHILLIPS!!!!! That's seven points we've now missed out on because of ****** execution and stupid mistakes.

M.O.T.H.
09-28-2009, 09:59 PM
Yeah lets pass three times on the one yard line. WTF is Garrett thinking?

herniateddisc
09-28-2009, 10:01 PM
That play calling is emblematic of Garrett's immaturity.

Jeez marie. A down hill runner. A massive OL. 2nd and 1. An injured DL.

You just want to take his head and smash it through a wall.

herniateddisc
09-28-2009, 10:02 PM
Our CB can't tackle and once again our 2 minute D sucks.

And please, Ware is going 1-on-1 and losing.

leroyisgod
09-28-2009, 10:08 PM
Like the d in the 2nd half.

herniateddisc
09-28-2009, 10:39 PM
Like the d in the 2nd half.

Not a good offense but Victor Butler ... love it.

M.O.T.H.
09-28-2009, 10:42 PM
The offense didn't do awful exactly, they were moving the ball. Garrett was f'ing up calls at the goal line as well. Could have had 14 instead of 6, if we just ran it on the one yard line. Colombo was horrible tonight, that didnt help matters. The pass blocking had some problems throughout, nice to see Romo making plays with his feet and improvision, looked like the confident player of old.

Vic Butler making plays was def. encouraging. I had a big smile on my face. I'd love to get a rotation going. Vic deserves more PT and Curtis Johnson is healthy now, so hopefully we'll see a little of him.

Newman and Jenkins were great. Newman looked bad early but, he blanketed Smith.

The Panthers arent that great anymore but, this is a good win. You should never underestimate an 0-2 team like this one.

thule
09-28-2009, 10:49 PM
I can't wait to see Jason Williams...hopefuilly he sees the field this season because barbie doesn't derseve to be on the field.

Good tough win...Jenkins had a good game today I thought.

E-Man
09-28-2009, 10:51 PM
I just love the fact that without Barber the 'Boys still managed to get 200+ yards rushing. People aren't getting it, but the Cowboys run offense is a juggernaut. There's some bad things about this game on the offensive side when it comes to finishing, but shutting down one of the top wideouts in the game(again, Newman just owns him) and one of the best running tandems in the league is pretty damn good. Yeah the game should've been 31-7, but at least we are getting some big things from the weaker unit(the defense.)

M.O.T.H.
09-28-2009, 10:53 PM
We dont even need Barber, so long as Felix stays healthy. But he's always getting banged up so, it doesnt hurt to have Marion as well. haha.

thule
09-28-2009, 10:54 PM
I'm not getting on the running game hype wagon. When your best running formation is the shutgun formation...that isnt' going to work in december when it matters.

We haven't exactly been playing smash mouth football...but the production has been great...

M.O.T.H.
09-28-2009, 10:54 PM
I can't wait to see Jason Williams...hopefuilly he sees the field this season because barbie doesn't derseve to be on the field.

Good tough win...Jenkins had a good game today I thought.

Seriously, is Bobby getting slower? geez. I mean, he's always played slow but, he looks like he's running in mud this year.

D-Unit
09-28-2009, 10:59 PM
Piss poor tackling by our D, but they did hold Carolina to 7 points with awesome run D and nice bracket coverage on Steve Smith.

This D is different every weekend. Will be nice to see them hold teams to 7 points the rest of the year though. lol.

Ware didn't get a sack but he pressured Jake ALL NIGHT LONG into making mistakes. He's so disruptive every time he's in the game. Stats won't show it, but anybody with eyes on him would notice... monster against the run too. MONSTER.

M.O.T.H.
09-28-2009, 11:00 PM
I wouldnt say all night long. Jake had plenty of time to throw a bunch of times. I thought the rush in the 1st half was piss poor, constantly contained.

thule
09-28-2009, 11:04 PM
Jay Ratliff/Jason Witten/Barber are the only 3 consistant guys on this team. You know what you are going to get every play. These guys should be the leaders on the field.

Ware/Newman/Romo - these are the top 3 players on the team but scream inconsistancy.

Just something I thought we should touch on.

FinChase
09-28-2009, 11:11 PM
Thoughts/questions after the game:

1) Relief - we got out with a win, even if it's a little "homely"
2) It had been so long since we got a turnover I almost didn't recognize them
3) Could Tashard Choice be our best draft pick from the 2007 draft?
4) Is anyone else a little disappointed in Bennett? I'm not seeing the matchup chaos he was supposed the create, and it seems like he has trouble executing. He's still young so he may come along this season, but after the way all the writers raved about him in TC, I was expecting more.
5) Why don't we target Austin more?
6) I now join D-unit in questioning Spencer's value. He did make some plays in coverage, but he's not the pass rusher that was sold to us during the 2006 draft. Butler showed a lot more.
7) Do you think the Cowboys will practice tackling skills more during TC next year?
8) Newman is still a top CB

M.O.T.H.
09-28-2009, 11:13 PM
Tashard Choice is good but, you're fooling yourself if you think he's anywhere near as good as Felix.

FinChase
09-28-2009, 11:15 PM
Tashard Choice is good but, you're fooling yourself if you think he's anywhere near as good as Felix.

Oh, I agree that Felix is far more explosive--when he's on the field. Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to be able to stay on the field for very long. I'm starting to have a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach about him. I will be happy to be wrong here, though.

D-Unit
09-28-2009, 11:17 PM
As much as I thought we'd be ok, this team is still getting used to NOT having TO on offense. That drop by Roy in the endzone was disappointing.

Ken Hamlin is JAG. He's got some issues to work out. His head isn't even in the game. Wonder if the money has had an effect...

I didn't see Scandrick... Did anyone else?

Jenkins was very inconsistent... from missing tackles and giving up TDs... to his INT and getting the refs to call that push off penalty from Moose... An up and down game to say the least.

Newman was having trouble wrapping up, but steadily got better as the game went on.

Bradie James... yuck. Barbie Carpenter triple yuck. Brooking... not bad.

Ratliff stud. Igor and Marcus avg.

OL....2nd studly game in a row. Loving them right now in the run game. ...penalties have to be cut down.

Did Felix get hurt?

Choice is the best 3rd string back in the league.

WRs need to be more apart of the offense.

Sam Hurd and Miles Austin are nobodies.

D-Unit
09-28-2009, 11:18 PM
Thoughts/questions after the game:

1) Relief - we got out with a win, even if it's a little "homely"
2) It had been so long since we got a turnover I almost didn't recognize them
3) Could Tashard Choice be our best draft pick from the 2007 draft?
4) Is anyone else a little disappointed in Bennett? I'm not seeing the matchup chaos he was supposed the create, and it seems like he has trouble executing. He's still young so he may come along this season, but after the way all the writers raved about him in TC, I was expecting more.
5) Why don't we target Austin more?
6) I now join D-unit in questioning Spencer's value. He did make some plays in coverage, but he's not the pass rusher that was sold to us during the 2006 draft. Butler showed a lot more.
7) Do you think the Cowboys will practice tackling skills more during TC next year?
8) Newman is still a top CB
I actually thought Spencer had a very good game last week. Today... not so much.

M.O.T.H.
09-28-2009, 11:22 PM
Roy's drops shouldnt surprise you, he has three on the season already and he's a known drop guy. Makes the difficult ones look easy and the easy one look difficult a lot of the time.

Scandrick did well in coverage, had a nice hit on the sideline late in the game.

I think Jenkins played very well tonight, Rosario's TD bleh but, he was solid, imo.

Run blocking was studly but, Colombo was terrrrrible in pass protection. Tony was forced to make a lot of plays with his feet today because, the Panthers were getting good pressure.

Yes, Felix strained his knee and left the game.

Sam Hurd barely gets to play in the offense, I dont know what Miles excuse is. But in fairness to Miles, he doesnt see the field a whole lot either. A lot more than Sam but, he's not seeing as much time as I thought the 3rd guy would get.

MetSox17
09-28-2009, 11:58 PM
I'm coming in to give some credit where credit is due, and sing Flozell's praises. I don't give a flying **** that he has two false start penalties a game, he's still beasting it out there. Shut down Peppers after shutting down Umenyiora, and made some very athletic plays on the outside run game. He's playing at a Pro-Bowl level again, and damn is it helping the run game.

I thought Romo looked a lot better today. There was a few times where he should have stepped up in the pocket and he didn't, and made some errant throws, but overall he played very well. It's exactly what we were talking about last week. He's the easiest to control on offense. I do think they need to get some more Roy Williams in there, he made some pretty sweet plays.

Also, Roy's ball in the end zone wasn't a drop, the CB slapped his arm after he was kinda bobbling it.

Speaking of which, Jason Garrett is a ************* moron. You all know exactly what i'm talking about, and that **** is just ridiculous. Wade needs to go over there and slap some ******* sense into him.

M.O.T.H.
09-29-2009, 12:16 AM
It was a drop. It hit him square in the hands up high. That's a play a number 1 receiver should have no problem making. Granted, T.O. probably would have dropped it also.

MetSox17
09-29-2009, 12:19 AM
It's hard to get into a rhythm when you're targeted once a quarter. He probably should have made the play, but i'm not gonna ride him for it. We had no business throwing it to him anyway. WTF is the point of throwing two fade routes at the one yard line when you've been owning all night on the ground.

M.O.T.H.
09-29-2009, 12:21 AM
Oh I know, Garrett needs to get his **** together. He called pass three times on the one yard line. Once out of a shotgun formation. (Romo checked to run)
Ugh. He's just making things more difficult for us. We only averaged 8 yards per carry and their D proved to be extemly soft up the middle, what's one more yard? grrr.

MetSox17
09-29-2009, 12:28 AM
Like i said, Wade needs to grow some balls and tell him he's ******* up.

And did anyone else notice that zone coverage was just about non-existent this game? Whaddaya know, our guys shut them down completely. Newman played Smith about as well as you can.

Our defense still needs to clean up their tackling though, especially our secondary. Mike Jenkins missed some pretty big tackles, and our safeties ******* suck donkey balls. The pressure needs some tweaking also because Delhomme needs to get beat up a lot more than he got today. Although not as much worried as there was noticeably less blitzing because of the constant double teaming of Smith.

There's a lot that needs improving, but this is a very good team.

DMWSackMachine
09-29-2009, 02:17 AM
I don't want to hear any criticism of our WRs or the passing attack. They were playing a two deep shell for basically the entirety of that game and all the down-the-field stuff was being taken away.

Not just that, but we play about 50-60% of our downs with two or more TEs in the game. In fact, I would bet that about 20% of our plays today had only a single WR in the game. That means not a lot of reps for the 3rd and 4th guy. Combine that with the 2 deep coverage they played and you see why neither Hurd or Austin had much effect on the game.

Now look at the 32 runs for 212 yards and the 9 receptions for Witten, 3 for Choice and 1 for Jones and you see that we still took advantage of what the D was giving us. It was in no way a lack of ability to get the WRs the ball or us struggling to move the ball in the first place. We had 450 yards, and would have scored 30+ for the 3rd straight game if we had not had such a breakdown in discipline and execution at key points during what should have been scoring drives.

The negatives in this one come down to key penalties and a couple of missed assignments in pass pro, its that simple. That's the only thing that kept this game from being a complete laugher right from the beginning. And that's not an excuse. If we don't get that crap fixed, we can kiss the playoffs good-bye, let alone any talk about reaching the SB.

LizardState
09-29-2009, 09:33 AM
Allow me to offer some comments on Jason Garrett's goal line playcalling -- about 40 kinds of ****** up.

2 fade routes to the corner of the EZ when they outweigh the opposing d-linemen 30 lbs/man? When the Panthers best run stuffers are out? WTF was he thinking?

I know what I was thinking when they settled for that fg: The panic button & 1-2 is getting closer & closer.

Best hit of the night was mega-fatboy Leonard Davis launching a Carolina DB airborne blocking downfield, well actually shoved downfield by Choice. I thought Finally! a return to Dallas FB!

Scandrick & Igor improved & the defense took away Smith, they were forced to go to Rosario in single coverage to score.

Romo still took scary chances, that crossfield desperation pass was a heartstopper, but the FB gods were smiling on Dallas, like the offensive PI call that saved a TD. Dallas caught some real breaks at home Monday night. And arent you as sick & tired of Bobby Carpoenter's missed tackles as I am?

Now Fox has to push that button at 0-3 save his job. And that's too damn bad, Fox is a truly nice guy HC in a profession inhabited by sharks. he's built his team from scratch the right way & now, in keeping with the NFC South tradition, they won it last season so they're doomed to go to the bottom this yr.

Modano
09-29-2009, 01:45 PM
I can't wait to see Jason Williams...hopefuilly he sees the field this season because barbie doesn't derseve to be on the field.

Good tough win...Jenkins had a good game today I thought.

I agree. Carpenter is awful. When is Williams supposed to come back?
Anyway I don't remember who said that but I also think that Romo was afraid to throw the ball to his WRs... But he played very good in the second half, the entire team played good after halftime... I think we are slowly getting back on track...

herniateddisc
09-29-2009, 01:55 PM
... I think we are slowly getting back on track...

I agree so long as we keep Tony Turnover, turnover free.

If we had played crisp lat night I would be happier. We got a huge PI call that changed the game, missed a FG, had silly play calling and a few OL penalties.

If we don't get those and still win 21-7 -- I would be happier. The score is not the issue -- it is the attitude we play with which as of yet is pretty guh-hay.

But see what no turnovers does for you???

MetSox17
09-29-2009, 07:17 PM
This performance is exactly why i wasn't panicking about Romo throwing picks last week. It's all good. That can be easily taken care of.

What does need adjustment is Garrett. It's getting beat over and over again, but really, he needs to snap the **** out of whatever funk he's in when we get in goal to go situations.

thule
09-29-2009, 07:56 PM
I loved the back to back fade calls. The one to Roy "shoudl have " been a td.

and I'm not sure what the hell is wrong with Tony to Tellus at the LOS.,..but figure that **** out during the damn week...christ thats two games they weren't even close to on the same page. I throw 2 fades for one simple reason. On 4th we are going to run it in. I wouldn't have kicked the field goal.

I don't agree that my/or Garretts for that matter are right...but I got to say I was yelling at the TV to throw the fade again...we just didn't execute. That play should be automatic with Martellus or Roy.

M.O.T.H.
09-29-2009, 11:04 PM
Fades are far from automatic...take the easy points on the ground. We were only averaging 8 yards per carry. ugh. I've never seen a coordinator call so many goal line passes in my life. Really, it should be expected from us. We do it that much. Seems like he's always trying to pad those passing stats instead of making the smart play call.

herniateddisc
09-29-2009, 11:07 PM
I would pay to see Garrett call a naked bootleg or QB sneak at the goal.

But last night, no excuse, 2nd and Goal at the One.

Give me a f*ing brake Jason.

As Jimmy Johnson said, keep it simple stupid.

Tashard left (2nd)
Tashard right (3rd)
Tashard up the middle (4th)

Rather be rich than right .........

M.O.T.H.
09-29-2009, 11:10 PM
I have to admit that Garrett certainly does have some good potential still but, he is still prone to some very stupid decisions and he gets way too pass happy. He's still not an amazing game manager, either. If the run is working, keep running. See the Giants game. He's going to start costing us games. If we lost yesterday, he would have received a big chunk of the blame with his mismanagement at the goal line.

herniateddisc
09-29-2009, 11:33 PM
I have to admit that Garrett certainly does have some good potential still but, he is still prone to some very stupid decisions and he gets way too pass happy. He's still not an amazing game manager, either. If the run is working, keep running. See the Giants game. He's going to start costing us games. If we lost yesterday, he would have received a big chunk of the blame with his mismanagement at the goal line.

I am going to say something here in defense of Red --- if he had a workhorse RB would he call it differently??

Sometimes I get the feeling he is trying to keep them fresh even at the expense of driving a nail into the coffin of the competition.

MBIII and Felix are proving a bit injury prone and Tashard is fine but not a stud.

I would love to see a 45 Runs and 25 Pass game with 25 first downs and 40 minute T.O.P. but that requires a lot more carries than most our guys are accostumed to.

Modano
09-30-2009, 01:26 AM
Hmm I don't know... If Roy caught that ball now Garret's would look like he made the right choice. Roy was one on one and had a clear advantage in size. The CB made a good play but he should have caught it. Stupid penalties killed us near the endzone.