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KBN570
03-10-2007, 12:40 PM
Most people seem to agree that the SEC is the best conference in football as far as talent. I'm curious to hear debate as to what conference is the second best, or if any conference is better than the SEC. Could Vandy or Kentucky beat a top Big 10 team... Big 12 team? Is the conference top loaded with that elite talent?

etk
03-10-2007, 12:42 PM
Funny how the ACC isn't even mentioned in these debates anymore.....

dware_94
03-10-2007, 12:45 PM
Funny how the ACC isn't even mentioned in these debates anymore.....

ACC = Mid Major conference

etk
03-10-2007, 12:46 PM
ACC = Mid Major conference

ACC=competition for the CIS, except for Miami

sodar21
03-10-2007, 12:47 PM
If you're talking about just plain talent then its the SEC barely ahead of the Big Ten followed by the ACC, Pac 10, Big 12 and Big East (in that order).

And Vandy got stomped worse by Michigan last year than they did against most of their SEC foes.

Komp
03-10-2007, 12:50 PM
Not this again...

NickBam
03-10-2007, 12:54 PM
Vandy lost to Michigan, so no they can't beat a top caliber Big Ten team.

cardsalltheway
03-10-2007, 01:13 PM
The Big Ten for sure.

dware_94
03-10-2007, 01:26 PM
The Big Ten for sure.

yeah...they really showed there superiority during bowl season

cardsalltheway
03-10-2007, 01:38 PM
yeah...they really showed there superiority during bowl season

What conference is better then? The Big 12? Despite the B10's bad bowl season they still ended up with three teams in the top ten, compared to 0 from the Big 12.

dware_94
03-10-2007, 02:19 PM
1. SEC
2. Pac 10
3. Big 12
4. Big East
5. Big 11
6. Mountain West
7. ACC

GB12
03-10-2007, 02:26 PM
1. SEC
2. Pac 10
3. Big 12
4. Big East
5. Big 11
6. Mountain West
7. ACC


And that killed any respect that I could have had for you.

dware_94
03-10-2007, 02:32 PM
And that killed any respect that I could have had for you.

please post your list

neko4
03-10-2007, 02:40 PM
1-SEC
2-Big Ten
3-ACC
4-Pac-10
5-Big 12
6-Big East
7-MAC
8-MW
9-CUSA
10-WAC
11-IND (ha)
12-MEAC
13-Patriot League
14-Sun Belt(they are that bad)

The SEC is clealy number 1. They constantly beat up on eachother but never seem to have many problems with out of conference teams.

The Big Ten is a close 2nd, but it is very dominated by Michigan/OhioSt and those are ussually the number 1 and 2 teams.

The ACC had a bad year. Easy to see that seeing as Wake Forest was the best team and Maryland was only like a game behind, but just because to teams that arent ussually the number 1 teams have the best record does that make the conference bad.

The Pac-10 proved that it was more than just the PAC-USC when UCLA beatem. Oregon st, Oregon and Cal are all good too.

The Big 12 has been going through a rough period despite Texas/Oklahoma's successes. Oklahoma hasnt had a real great year since the Jason White era.

The Big East is becoming a major conference with West Va, Rutgers and Louisville.

GB12
03-10-2007, 02:40 PM
1.SEC
2.Big Ten
3.Big 12
4. Pac10
5.ACC
6.Big East

dware_94
03-10-2007, 02:47 PM
i can respect both lists but i think it is really hard to rank the conferences after 1.SEC...i think both overrate the Big 10 and underrated the Pac 10 and Big East

elway777
03-10-2007, 02:48 PM
Well I think it's the Big 10. A good arguement would be Pac10 vs.the Big12.

GB12
03-10-2007, 02:49 PM
I don't see at all how you can put the Big East ahead of the Big Ten.

gbpackers0065
03-10-2007, 02:53 PM
13-Patriot League

is that a joke becuz they arent even the best 1-aa conference

dware_94
03-10-2007, 02:57 PM
I don't see at all how you can put the Big East ahead of the Big Ten.

Maybe i'm just looking into Michigan and tOSU's terrible bowl performances too much


i also think Louisville, WVU, and Rutgers are very solid teams

neko4
03-10-2007, 03:03 PM
is that a joke becuz they arent even the best 1-aa conference

yeah..........
I was trying to show how bad the S Belt was

GB12
03-10-2007, 03:08 PM
Maybe i'm just looking into Michigan and tOSU's terrible bowl performances too much


i also think Louisville, WVU, and Rutgers are very solid teams

I'd take Michigan, Wisconsin and OSU over Louisville, West Virginia, and Rutgers. And then I'd take any Big Ten team over the rest of the Big East.

YAYareaRB
03-10-2007, 03:31 PM
1-SEC
2-Big Ten
3-ACC
4-Pac-10
5-Big 12
6-Big East
7-MWC
8-MAC
9-WAC
10-CUSA

-Pretty much your standard rankings expect I put the Mountain West over MAC

jagsfreak27
03-10-2007, 03:46 PM
Sec no contest

cardsalltheway
03-10-2007, 03:52 PM
Sec no contest

Thanks for proving that you are illiterate.

YAYareaRB
03-10-2007, 03:56 PM
Thanks for proving that you are illiterate.

..and how did he do that O literate one?

cardsalltheway
03-10-2007, 03:59 PM
..and how did he do that O literate one?

Read the first post.

Michigan
03-10-2007, 04:57 PM
The MAC is so overrated on these boards. Sure, they occasionally pull an upset over a middling BCS team, but the talent on the teams really isn't on par with the MWC or CUSA. How many mac players are ranked in Scott's Top 100?

They're essentially the Big East of the Mid Majors (boasts a couple big name skill position players resulting from low overall talent on defenses)

1. SEC
2. Big Ten
t-3. Big 12
t-3. Pac Ten
5. ACC
6. Big East
7. Mountain West
8. CUSA
9. WAC
10. MAC
11. Sun Belt

TPFKA#1SaintsFan
03-10-2007, 06:19 PM
yeah..........
I was trying to show how bad the S Belt was

I hope you're not a fan of Corey Williams (or Demarcus Ware, Osi Umenyiora, Charles Tillman, Ike Taylor, Jake Delhomme, Marty Booker, Brandon Stokely, Brian Waters....) because he came from what you apparently consider the worst conference in the history of sports.

I know the SBC is at the bottom of the barrel, but it's not THAT bad. 1-1 in Bowl games this past season.

Scotty D
03-10-2007, 06:27 PM
SEC. I think the strength of that conference will cause a playoff system in the next 5 years.

soybean
03-10-2007, 07:52 PM
SEC. I think the strength of that conference will cause a playoff system in the next 5 years.

read the first post...

TCU
03-10-2007, 08:59 PM
I dont see how anyone could put the MAC over the MWC, that is the equivalent of putting the Pac-10 over the SEC.

when was the last time a MAC team was top 25?

honestly could any MAC team beat BYU, TCU or Utah.

Ill take the WAC hands down over the MAC, there isnt one quality team in the MAC. Central Michigan was yalls champs wow they are quality.

detroit4life
03-10-2007, 11:33 PM
Most people seem to agree that the SEC is the best conference in football as far as talent. I'm curious to hear debate as to what conference is the second best, or if any conference is better than the SEC. Could Vandy or Kentucky beat a top Big 10 team... Big 12 team? Is the conference top loaded with that elite talent?

its kinda easy to say second best is big ten and no way is it possible for vandy or kentucky to beat a top big ten team. Michigan killed vandy if you dont remember. Big ten is pretty top heavy with UM, OSU, and occasionally wisconsin usually taking the big ten title penn state sometimes too but usually michigan or OSU. I'd put Big ten over Pac 10 and big 12 any day though

Jeff82
03-11-2007, 03:54 PM
If you're talking about just plain talent then its the SEC barely ahead of the Big Ten followed by the ACC, Pac 10, Big 12 and Big East (in that order).

And Vandy got stomped worse by Michigan last year than they did against most of their SEC foes.

Vandy was only down 13-7 to Michigan and the game was at Michigan. Also it was the first start for Vandy QB Chris Nickson. Michigan is clearly better than Vandy, but give them some credit, Bobby Johnson has done a good job of building a program since he arrived.

Jeff82
03-11-2007, 03:57 PM
1. SEC
2. Pac 10
3. Big 12
4. Big East
5. Big 11
6. Mountain West
7. ACC

Wow, I'm an SEC guy and like to take some fun jabs at Big 10 fans, but be serious. I think that usually the SEC is better overall (not necessarily the top team or two) than the Big 10, but from year to year that can change. No way is the Big 10 at 5.

Jeff82
03-11-2007, 04:01 PM
Maybe i'm just looking into Michigan and tOSU's terrible bowl performances too much


i also think Louisville, WVU, and Rutgers are very solid teams

I like the Big East and I think that in 5 years teams like South Florida and Pitt will be solid as well. Problem is they only have 8 teams and they only play 7 conference games, whereas most conferences play 8 and the Pac 10 plays 9. Every conference has about 2 or 3 bad bad teams, and for the Big East when they have 3, then that makes their overall quality depth look bad.

Jeff82
03-11-2007, 04:05 PM
The MAC is so overrated on these boards. Sure, they occasionally pull an upset over a middling BCS team, but the talent on the teams really isn't on par with the MWC or CUSA. How many mac players are ranked in Scott's Top 100?

They're essentially the Big East of the Mid Majors (boasts a couple big name skill position players resulting from low overall talent on defenses)

1. SEC
2. Big Ten
t-3. Big 12
t-3. Pac Ten
5. ACC
6. Big East
7. Mountain West
8. CUSA
9. WAC
10. MAC
11. Sun Belt


By far the best conference ranking i've seen. You hit it dead on.

Jeff82
03-11-2007, 04:07 PM
its kinda easy to say second best is big ten and no way is it possible for vandy or kentucky to beat a top big ten team. Michigan killed vandy if you dont remember. Big ten is pretty top heavy with UM, OSU, and occasionally wisconsin usually taking the big ten title penn state sometimes too but usually michigan or OSU. I'd put Big ten over Pac 10 and big 12 any day though

What exactly is your definition of killed?

OhioState
03-11-2007, 05:01 PM
though the big ten is a little top heavy the big east sucks, they are sorely overrated based upon the big name skill players(who are still only a few)

nhlkdog411
03-11-2007, 06:00 PM
uhhh everyone acts like the big 10 was horrible in bowls but didnt they beat the SEC in every bowl game the conferences had against eachother except for the NC?

P-L
03-11-2007, 06:29 PM
What exactly is your definition of killed?
Winning by 20 points, holding your opponent to 114 total yards outside of one trick play, giving up 7 first downs, giving up 2.6 yards per play, and recording 5 sacks.

dware_94
03-11-2007, 06:36 PM
uhhh everyone acts like the big 10 was horrible in bowls but didnt they beat the SEC in every bowl game the conferences had against eachother except for the NC?

ok...tOSU: raped by Florida
Michigan: raped by USC
Wisconsin: impressive victory over Arky
Purdue: spanked by an average Maryland team
Penn st: they Won but if Foster didn't fumble Tenn wins
Iowa: played better than i thought but still lost
Minnesota: Meltdown of the century VS Tech

thats looks horrible to me

Jeff82
03-11-2007, 06:37 PM
uhhh everyone acts like the big 10 was horrible in bowls but didnt they beat the SEC in every bowl game the conferences had against eachother except for the NC?

A few people that have no idea what they are talking about think the Big 10 is horrible. I think the SEC is #1 and the Big 10 #2, but by no means do I think the Big 10 is horrible and in fact for those that say that the Big 10 played like crap in bowl games look at what each team did.

Yes Ohio State and Michigan got beat bad, but...

Iowa was suppose to get blown out by a very good Texas team but kept that very close and could have beaten Texas.

Penn State was suppose to be a lock to get beat by Tennessee, but they pulled out a very good win for the conference.

Wisconsin finished off a great season by beating a quality Arkansas team.

Again, I think the SEC is number one, but I give the Big 10 it's credit for being the definite number two and a darn good conference.

dware_94
03-11-2007, 06:40 PM
jesus...there's a lot of big ten homers on this board

Jeff82
03-11-2007, 06:47 PM
Vandy had 171 total yards of offense and the trick play (which is still a part of football stats) was only 30 yards, so you got your 1 and 4 mixed up because it would be 141 yards minus trick play. It was 9 first downs and since trick plays do count it was 3.3 yards per play. Oh and didn't a Chris Nickson fumble in Vandy territory allow the Wolverines the chance to put a TD with 2 minutes left in the game. So until very late, it was only 20-7. Not quite a killing.

I'm not saying Vanderbilt is better than Michigan, but they did have a brand new QB starting his first game at Michigan and they kept that game close especially only being down 13-7 at half and 20-7 with a little over two minutes left in the game.

omecool20
03-20-2007, 02:58 AM
ACC will be back :-) ACC no 1, SEC no 2, Big 10 no 3

nhlkdog411
03-20-2007, 11:07 AM
how does backing up the big 10 as the second best conference make me a big 10 homer? especially when im from boston and am a BC fan...and what i was pointing out was that everyone loves to say the big10 sucks and the sec is gods conference but the big10 did better than the sec when they went head to head in bowls. thats what i said in my original post so quoting to me how some big10 teams lost to acc or pac 10 teams has nothing to do with my argument

RWFender1
03-20-2007, 11:27 AM
i think the pac 10 is stronger than the big 10. i think the pac 10 doesnt get enough respect

constant cough
03-20-2007, 11:44 AM
SEC
Big 11
Big 12
ACC
Pac 1
Big East
The Rest

RWFender1
03-20-2007, 01:15 PM
the big 12 is harder than the pac 10? thats rich. no way the ACC is harder as of late either. the only team in big 12 is texas and OU. OU proved they werent as good as many thought in their bowl game and i would bet my house that Cal would beat Texas if they played last year

snuff
03-20-2007, 01:19 PM
I still believe the SEC is the most overrated conference, but I am actually going to stay out of that argument, because you people aren't worth arguing with over this again.

Titans10
03-20-2007, 01:46 PM
Vandy had 171 total yards of offense and the trick play (which is still a part of football stats) was only 30 yards, so you got your 1 and 4 mixed up because it would be 141 yards minus trick play. It was 9 first downs and since trick plays do count it was 3.3 yards per play. Oh and didn't a Chris Nickson fumble in Vandy territory allow the Wolverines the chance to put a TD with 2 minutes left in the game. So until very late, it was only 20-7. Not quite a killing.

I'm not saying Vanderbilt is better than Michigan, but they did have a brand new QB starting his first game at Michigan and they kept that game close especially only being down 13-7 at half and 20-7 with a little over two minutes left in the game.

He is right Michigan did not kill Vandy, Michigan struggled to put them away. Tennessee killed Vandy this past offseason and that was there only bad loss.

1. SEC





2. Big 10
3. Big 12
4. Pac 10

Acreboy
03-20-2007, 02:11 PM
Here is my list

SEC-They show it year in and year out. They never have one dominate team because they have so many teams at a high level each year. All we kept hearing was how tOSU was the best team, fastest, strongest, etc. They never played a team in the SEC, until UF that is.

Big 10- tOSU, Michigan, Michigan State, Illinois is on their way up, Wisconsin has always been a consistent 9 win team, Iowa is alright. Most others in this conference I would rank along with Vanderbilt...

Big 12-With the likes of Texas and OU they have to be considered here. Iowa State is on the rise and Nebraska should be making their way back to the top.

Pac-10- They pretty much have USC, eh. P{ersonally I think they are overrated and would struggle with the likes of teams like LSU, UF, Michigan, even Wisconsin (when Stocco was there). California is a very solid team, as is UCLA,

ACC- Has really declined in recent years with Miami taking a few steps backwards, along with Florida State,. V-Tech is back on their way to the top Georgia Tech should mellow out after losing CJ.

Big East-Rutgers is at the top of their game and should continue to grow, Louisville might take a step backwards after losing Petrino, and WVU are contendors every year.

These are my 6 I will not do any other conferences because these are the best IMO.

Bengals1690
03-20-2007, 02:23 PM
1 sec
2 pac 10
3 big 10
4 big 12
5 big east
6 acc

beyond the SEC, they conferences arent that far apart from one another

mil_brew_fan
03-20-2007, 02:52 PM
With as much as people think the SEC is so great, the Badgers have taken down to SEC teams the past two years in bowl games: Auburn and Arkansas. This year the Badgers got no love with Michigan and Ohio State, but they're the only ones in the conference that took care of business in their bowl game.

Bengals1690
03-20-2007, 02:59 PM
With as much as people think the SEC is so great, the Badgers have taken down to SEC teams the past two years in bowl games: Auburn and Arkansas. This year the Badgers got no love with Michigan and Ohio State, but they're the only ones in the conference that took care of business in their bowl game.

but behind wisconsin, michigan, and ohio state, no teams will scare their opponents. The SEC has Arkansas, Florida, Auburn, Tennessee, Vandy, even Georgia. I have a feeling im leaving someone out, but you get the point. the SEC is an extremely deep conference

princefielder28
03-20-2007, 03:12 PM
but behind wisconsin, michigan, and ohio state, no teams will scare their opponents. The SEC has Arkansas, Florida, Auburn, Tennessee, Vandy, even Georgia. I have a feeling im leaving someone out, but you get the point. the SEC is an extremely deep conference

To tell you the truth when i hear SEC football and good teams I usually don't talk about Vandy.

TitanHope
03-22-2007, 01:44 PM
And Vandy got stomped worse by Michigan last year than they did against most of their SEC foes.

Because inner conference play is always closer than outter conference play. When rivalries get involved, the games are always tighter.


As how I'd rank the Top 5 conferences...

1. SEC - National champion Florida. 6 ranked teams at the end of the season. 9 Bowl eligible teams(only 12 teams total in the conference; Went 6-3 in bowl games).

2. Pac 10 - 3 ranked teams. 6 Bowl eligible teams(3-3 in bowl games).

3. Big 10 - 4 ranked teams(3 of which are in Top 10). 7 Bowl eligible teams(2-5 in bowl games).

4. ACC - 3 ranked teams. 8 Bowl eligible teams(4-4 in bowl games).

5. Big 12 - 2 ranked teams. 8 Bowl eligible teams(3-5 in bowl games).


Main thing that stands out is that the Big 10 went 2-5 in their outter conference bowl games. Overrated? I'd say so.

sodar21
03-22-2007, 02:19 PM
lol Big Ten 3-1 vs the SEC.

RWFender1
03-22-2007, 02:43 PM
[QUOTE=Acreboy;233089]Here is my list


Pac-10- They pretty much have USC, eh. P{ersonally I think they are overrated and would struggle with the likes of teams like LSU, UF, Michigan, even Wisconsin (when Stocco was there). California is a very solid team, as is UCLA,




USC would struggle against Michigan? if i recall they thrashed them in the rose bowl but apparently you missed that game

DoWnThEfiElD
03-22-2007, 03:06 PM
I still believe the SEC is the most overrated conference, but I am actually going to stay out of that argument, because you people aren't worth arguing with over this again.

Agreed this is two months ago all over again. BTW bowl games are a horrible evaluation of how a team does for 12 weeks.

marks01234
03-23-2007, 04:54 PM
You guys hating on the ACC have to be kidding me. You are aware that last year the ACC had close to half of the 1st round selections. Mario Williams, Vernon Davis, D'Brickshaw Ferguson, Broderick Buntley, Antonio Cromartie, Ernie Sims, John McCargo, Mathias Kiwianuka, Manny Lawson, Tye Hill, Kameron Wimbley and Kelly Jennings. They are going to have at least two top ten selections in this years draft and probably have the best defensive prospect in the draft (Gaines Adams) and the best overall prospect in the draft (Calvin Johnson).

It's not like these guys are busts either. Phillip Rivers, Shawn Meriman, Julius Peppers, Torry Holt and that's not even including the huge list of Miami and FSU players. Then you have the numerous "steals" - Frank Gore in the 3rd, Jerricho Cotchery in the 4th, Leon Washington in the 4th.

The ACC has been a little shaky because the QB situations at a lot of the schools have been up and down the last few years. But don't expect it to stay that way. The ACC has talent that is just as good if not better than every single conference.

Rutgers
03-23-2007, 06:57 PM
Because inner conference play is always closer than outter conference play. When rivalries get involved, the games are always tighter.


As how I'd rank the Top 5 conferences...

1. SEC - National champion Florida. 6 ranked teams at the end of the season. 9 Bowl eligible teams(only 12 teams total in the conference; Went 6-3 in bowl games).

2. Pac 10 - 3 ranked teams. 6 Bowl eligible teams(3-3 in bowl games).

3. Big 10 - 4 ranked teams(3 of which are in Top 10). 7 Bowl eligible teams(2-5 in bowl games).

4. ACC - 3 ranked teams. 8 Bowl eligible teams(4-4 in bowl games).

5. Big 12 - 2 ranked teams. 8 Bowl eligible teams(3-5 in bowl games).


Main thing that stands out is that the Big 10 went 2-5 in their outter conference bowl games. Overrated? I'd say so.

What criteria are you using to rank the conferences? How many teams are ranked and their bowls?Well the BE has 3 teams ranked in the top 12 and went 5-0 in the bowl games and won the bowl challenge unless your being extremley bias then w/e.

BaLLiN
03-23-2007, 09:04 PM
SEC definately, the gators crushed the buckeyes, the tigers beat the irish, and the Pac-Ten might be equal or better but I doubt it, there is less competition, in the SEC you really don't know who will win

TigerBait45
03-23-2007, 11:12 PM
Every year,people argue for the SEC, mostly arbitrarily. I'll let you in on a little secret, we like to talk big, but we're usually not quite as good as we believe.

Last year was a really weird year in the SEC, too. Kentucky won a bowl game, Vandy showed they could step up and stun better teams, and so on.

This year, I think, the SEC is going to be hell. This is the best I've seen the conference in a while. Florida, LSU, Tennesee and Georgia all look like they could be Top 10 teams, Arkansas an Auburn look like borderline great teams, Kentucky and South Carolina are only getting better, Vanderbilt looks ready for a bowl game, and Mississippi is improving every day.

I think the conference thats going to surprise people this year is the Pac-10. USC is probably the best team in the country, but its far from being only them. UCLA looks ready to win the conference, Oregon State has potential, as does Arizona and Arizona State.

doingthisinsteadofwork
03-23-2007, 11:23 PM
Ill say the Big Ten.WInsconsin is very underated.

San Diego Chicken
03-24-2007, 05:27 AM
This is how the BCS computers ranked the conferences in 2006:

Jeff Sagarin

http://www.kiva.net/~jsagarin/sports/cfsend.htm

1) SEC
2) Big East
3) PAC-10
4) ACC
5) Big 10
6) Big 12

Anderson & Hester

http://andersonsports.com/football/ACF_frnk.html

1) PAC-10
2) SEC
3) Big East
4) Big 10
5) ACC
6) Big 12

Richard Billingsley

http://www.cfrc.com/Ratings_2006/CC_WK_17.htm

1) SEC
2) Big East
3) Big 10
4) PAC-10
5) Big 12
6) ACC

Colley Matrix

http://www.colleyrankings.com/curconf.html

1) Big East
2) SEC
3) Big 10
4) PAC-10
5) Big 12
6) ACC

Kenneth Massey

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cf#conf

1) SEC
2) PAC-10
3) Big East
4) Big 10
5) ACC
6) Big 12

Peter Wolfe

http://prwolfe.bol.ucla.edu/cfootball/ratings.htm#Conference

1) SEC
2) Big East
3) PAC-10
4) Big 10
5) ACC
6) Big 12


Winning pct vs. BCS conferences

1) Big East .667 (14-7)
2) PAC-10 .643 (9-5)
3) SEC .591 (13-9)
4) Big 10 .471 (8-9)
5) Big 12 .333 (6-12)
6) ACC .300 (6-14)


Average

1) SEC
2) Big East
3) PAC-10
4) Big 10
5) ACC
6) Big 12

pirateboy
03-27-2007, 02:41 AM
no the acc is not a contender anymore. what happened to miami? what happened to FSU? what kind of world is it when clemson is the best acc team? i dont any conference going toe to toe with the SEC. granted the top team of almost any conference could take kentucky or vandy. but every conference has the teams that everyone else just marks off as a win on the schedule before the game is played. SEC proved its superiority when florida shocked ohio state. the only team that was able to beat florida was... another SEC team, auburn. i really couldnt pick a clear cut number two since the sudden decline of the acc. i thought that was their reasoning behind bringing in some more "football" teams to counter act the heavy lean in the conference toward basketball. as if they dominate there anymore either. once again we see florida and ohio state dominating there too. and as far as all around conference, the best conference in all the major sports. once again my vote goes to the SEC.

pirateboy
03-27-2007, 02:55 AM
its kinda easy to say second best is big ten and no way is it possible for vandy or kentucky to beat a top big ten team. Michigan killed vandy if you dont remember.

and how often does vandy play a "powerhouse" team outside of the SEC. its more a question of being prepared to play michigan than michigan just killing a lesser talented team

pirateboy
03-27-2007, 03:13 AM
as of right now none of this speculation about if this team did this and if these teams start coming back up. right now the way things are. considering from top to bottom of all conference including the vandy and kentuckies of every conference id rate them this way


1. SEC
2. Big 10
3. Big East
4. Pac 10 (here is where i have trouble between 4 and 5 i could have gone either way with these two)
5. Big 12
6. ACC (they still arent bad enough to slide down any farther than that)

pirateboy
03-27-2007, 03:14 AM
7. SAC (DIV II)

just a joke

Green Bay Scat
03-27-2007, 08:49 PM
All i gotta say is Go San Jose State, Spartans baby lol

smittyjs
03-27-2007, 09:45 PM
If you're talking about just plain talent then its the SEC barely ahead of the Big Ten followed by the ACC, Pac 10, Big 12 and Big East (in that order).

And Vandy got stomped worse by Michigan last year than they did against most of their SEC foes.
Yeah UM beat us by three TD's with Nickson making his first start.

smittyjs
03-27-2007, 09:46 PM
lol Big Ten 3-1 vs the SEC.
The most important game was won by an SEC team.

constant cough
03-28-2007, 08:30 AM
lol Big Ten 3-1 vs the SEC.

3-2 Notre Dame is basically a Big 11 team.

JCarver27
03-28-2007, 10:39 AM
3-2 Notre Dame is basically a Big 11 team.

uh, no...................

constant cough
03-28-2007, 12:01 PM
uh, no...................


uh,yeahh.....they're in Big 11 country and play a Big 11 schedule. Sure I know they are independent but for all practical purposes they are a Big 11 team. I know I'm not the only one who looks at them that way.

RoyHall#1
03-28-2007, 12:42 PM
As a buckeyes fan I have to give the best conference to the SEC.

DaBears9654
04-07-2007, 09:53 AM
6. Mountain West
7. ACC
The Mountain West better than a BCS conference? I doubt it. Besides, it's annually a battle between Utah and -- now that they've joined -- TCU for the conference title.

I think it would be unanimous that the Sun Belt is the absolute worst! Has been for most of its existence in football.

nextyear5
04-07-2007, 10:45 AM
As a Minnesota Gopher fan, this is my list.

1. SEC
2. Big Ten
3. Big 12
4. Pac-10
5. ACC
6. Big East
7. Mountain West
8. WAC
9. MAC
10. C-USA
11. Sun Belt

There are a few years outta every decade that the Big Ten or 12 could be #1 though.

nextyear5
04-07-2007, 10:48 AM
uh,yeahh.....they're in Big 11 country and play a Big 11 schedule. Sure I know they are independent but for all practical purposes they are a Big 11 team. I know I'm not the only one who looks at them that way.

Well, they play only 3 or 4 Big Ten teams, not 9. Michigan State, Purdue, Michigan... seems like I'm forgetting someone? Miami(Ohio), Bowling Green and Akron play in "Big Ten Country" as well, doesn't make them Big Ten teams. Notre Dame is an INDEPENDENT.

504 to ATL
04-08-2007, 05:19 AM
I honestly can not take this thread seriously, everyone who does not put the SEC ahead of every conference is biased. For probably the past three years the SEC has shown that the top 4/5 teams are top 25 calibur teams in the entire NCAAA.

Bowl wise the SEC is doing pretty well in my opinion vs. the slow ten and others. It is pretty easy to say the SEC is a safe pick for the best FOOTBALL conference in the nation.

sodar21
04-08-2007, 10:09 AM
I honestly can not take this thread seriously, everyone who does not put the SEC ahead of every conference is biased. For probably the past three years the SEC has shown that the top 4/5 teams are top 25 calibur teams in the entire NCAAA.

Bowl wise the SEC is doing pretty well in my opinion vs. the slow ten and others. It is pretty easy to say the SEC is a safe pick for the best FOOTBALL conference in the nation.

lol SEC 1-2 in bowls vs "Slow 10" this past year. Or do all SEC fans ride the Florida jockstrap?

leftwich7
04-08-2007, 10:44 AM
see Big East bowl record and get back to me. BE doesn't have the sexy teams but they get it done. WVU,Louisville,Rutgers,as well Pittsburgh and Syracuse rising (although slowly rising)