tim tebow to jax?

[roscoesdad27]

1) local legend would be a HUGE hit with the fans and no team needs that more desperately than jax right now.

2) the emergence of the wildcat....miami just torched one of the bst defenses in the league with this formation monday night...i feel tebow can run this offense to perfection...this wont be no rinky dink, gerrard at w.r. bullcrap either...this will be a package with garrard off the field similiar to miamis but with more passing invloved plus more and more "regular packages" as he learns...garrard will still be the starter and will stay in the game when hot and at a reasonable pace...if he starts to have a bad game bring him to the sideline for a series or 2 to calm him down and show him some pics from the blimp.

[JT Jag]

No.Stupid 10-character limit

[roscoesdad27]

lol...what do you think about the wildcat and how tebow could possibly evolve that formation with alot more passing than the one miami runs...i think its an offense that can work and alot of experts do too....if it wasnt for the emergence of the wildcat i wouldnt consider tebow here or a first round prospect...but i think this could work out great for you guys...you guys dont have a second round pick and he definitly wont be there in the third.

[Vox Populi]

They might as well just move to L.A. now then right? :rolleyes:

[JT Jag]

You don't draft gimmicks in the top 10.

[raiderz4life]

The J-E-T-S Defense is O-V-E-R-R-A-T-E-D....everyone knows you can gash em with the run

[Hurricanes25]

The J-E-T-S Defense is O-V-E-R-R-A-T-E-D....everyone knows you can gash em with the run

We'll see how overrated we are when we play you guys in 2 weeks. Russell won't know what hit him. About your second point, yes, we are beatable on the ground.

[Forenci]

We'll see how overrated we are when we play you guys in 2 weeks. Russell won't know what hit him. About your second point, yes, we are beatable on the ground.

How would stopping the Raiders offense make them less overrated? Pretty much everyone stops the Raiders offense, sadly.

I don't think the Jets defense is overrated per se, but I doubt they continue to play on the level they have the first four weeks.

[CC.SD]

1) local legend would be a HUGE hit with the fans and no team needs that more desperately than jax right now.

2) the emergence of the wildcat....miami just torched one of the bst defenses in the league with this formation monday night...i feel tebow can run this offense to perfection...this wont be no rinky dink, gerrard at w.r. bullcrap either...this will be a package with garrard off the field similiar to miamis but with more passing invloved plus more and more "regular packages" as he learns...garrard will still be the starter and will stay in the game when hot and at a reasonable pace...if he starts to have a bad game bring him to the sideline for a series or 2 to calm him down and show him some pics from the blimp.

I would just like to add ZOMGZ.


Jacksonville will definitely draft Tebow, hello they can't put people in the seats and might lose their franchise. Is there any chance they pass up the local legend? Of course, but I would have to say it's unlikely. Build up the O-line and give him a million years to throw, Jacksonville needs Tebow to establish its fan base again. Money talks.

[jballa838]

You don't draft gimmicks in the top 10.
New Orleans begs to differ.

[SKim172]

I could see it. Tebow grew up in Jacksonville and the Jags need the publicity boost.

But not in the first round. It won't be a priority for the franchise to get Tebow - just, if they can get him, with a pick they think is reasonable and there's no other player they'd prefer at the spot, then yes, they'll take him. I could see them going as high the third round, though I'd expect that it'd be in the 4th-6th range.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

I could see it. Tebow grew up in Jacksonville and the Jags need the publicity boost.

But not in the first round. It won't be a priority for the franchise to get Tebow - just, if they can get him, with a pick they think is reasonable and there's no other player they'd prefer at the spot, then yes, they'll take him. I could see them going as high the third round, though I'd expect that it'd be in the 4th-6th range.

I know everyone hates Tebow but damn man you know someone is going to jump on him in the first two rounds or early 3rd at the very latest. If Pat White can go second round, so can Tebow one of the most accomplished players in NCAA history.

[JT Jag]

I know everyone hates Tebow but damn man you know someone is going to jump on him in the first two rounds or early 3rd at the very latest. If Pat White can go second round, so can Tebow one of the most accomplished players in NCAA history.Agreed. Pat White set Tebow's draft floor at mid-second round, barring injury.

[JT Jag]

New Orleans begs to differ.You don't INTENTIONALLY draft gimmicks in the top-10.

Once upon a time, journalists expected Reggie Bush to be the next coming of Barry Sanders.

[Splat]

Timmy will be long gone by the 3rd round its not just about winning its about making money at worst late second round.

[bhaarat316]

Tebow could be there in the 4th, if any one really takes him in the top 32.....

[iBoldin]

I'm a proponent of Tebow to Jacksonville. I think it would work well on many levels.

I personally don't think Jacksonville will be in the top-ten again. If they are, then definitely say good-bye to Jack Del Rio. He just hasn't gotten this team over the hump, or at least over previous success of a few years ago.

So, new coach, new quarterback? Maybe not with David Garrard in the fold, with him making the money he's making (I think he signed a rather generous 6-year extension a year or so ago). Yet, it's surely something they should look into. If anything, it'll be a business move over the personnel aspect. Jacksonville really is on the verge of either being moved, or bought for the worse.

[JT Jag]

Tebow could be there in the 4thAnd Eric Berry "could" slide into the 2nd.

That said, both of them are going in the first 80 picks.

[SKim172]

I know everyone hates Tebow but damn man you know someone is going to jump on him in the first two rounds or early 3rd at the very latest. If Pat White can go second round, so can Tebow one of the most accomplished players in NCAA history.

Point. I had forgotten about that. Recent history does matter.

Although, if Pat White turns out to be a complete bust, then I'd say Tebow's draft stock will drop quite a bit. I'll change my guess and say early second round as his ceiling, but conservatively, I'm still thinking third round.

[Babylon]

I think the Jags would probably trade down and take him later in the 1st or early 2nd. Sort of takes some of the pressure off the pick. Does anyone seriously think he's going to last past the 1st 50 picks or so? I don't.

[JT Jag]

I think the Jags would probably trade down and take him later in the 1st or early 2nd. Sort of takes some of the pressure off the pick. Does anyone seriously think he's going to last past the 1st 50 picks or so? I don't.If we can get a taker in the 20s and pick up an additional 3rd or maybe even a second, it would make drafting Tebow more tolerable.

[Babylon]

If we can get a taker in the 20s and pick up an additional 3rd or maybe even a second, it would make drafting Tebow more tolerable.

Yeah, i'd bring him in and let him do some wildcat, maybe line up in the slot. I'm not ready to see Garrard leave, he doesnt exactly have the best receivers in the league to throw to.

[JeffSamardzijaIRISH]

Tebow's a way more capable passer than Pat White.

[JFLO]

The more the college season rolls along, the more I feel that Tim Tebow will be a first round pick. His intangibles are probably the best that I've ever seen out of any quarterback since I've started to follow the draft. I'm not sure I'm sold on him being a first round pick, but a team (whether it's Jacksonville or whoever) will buy into his story.

I think most people have to face the fact, Tim Tebow will be a first round pick by some team.

[CC.SD]

The more the college season rolls along, the more I feel that Tim Tebow will be a first round pick. His intangibles are probably the best that I've ever seen out of any quarterback since I've started to follow the draft. I'm not sure I'm sold on him being a first round pick, but a team (whether it's Jacksonville or whoever) will buy into his story.

I think most people have to face the fact, Tim Tebow will be a first round pick by some team.

and that team...will be Jacksonville.

[ElectricEye]

If you put a running quarterback in a wildcat offense is it still even a wildcat offense? I don't think so. It basically turns into spread option at that point. No real difference between that and what a team like West Virginia did with Pat White a few years ago. Lots of end arounds, quarterback draws, ect. I'm skeptical about that type of thing working at the NFL level. College offenses have evolves impressively from a technical standpoint, but it's still all highly reliant on misdirection and poor technique on defense. If there's one thing you don't see in the NFL it's a lack of speed and playing out of position for large portions of the game. Just don't think it would work if it got to be as wide spread and as cut and dry as that.

[RaiderNation]

Tebow for me is a 2-3rd rounder. Wouldnt be surprised if Jacksoville traded up into the late 1st were to take him. Also I can see a team like the Colts draft him to add the wildcat.

[JT Jag]

Tebow for me is a 2-3rd rounder. Wouldnt be surprised if Jacksoville traded up into the late 1st were to take him. Also I can see a team like the Colts draft him to add the wildcat.Unless we deal a player, we don't have the ammo to trade UP into the 1st. No 2nd rounder this year.

[P-L]

Tebow makes sense for Jacksonville, but he's likely won't be a realistic option unless they win some games. Right now, they look like they're going to end up with a top 10 or twelve pick. Tebow's stock won't be nearly the high, especially considering the large number of underclassmen expected to declare.

[drowe]

I had it in my last mock.

Let's look at the facts:

1-Reviews on Tim Tebow's pro prospects are mixed, to say the least. But, part of getting mixed reviews is the fact that some scouts do see him as a 1st round talent at QB.

2-Wayne Weaver said the dude's name a few weeks ago. He's on the radar.

3-The biggest problem in Jacksonville isn't the lack of WR or depth on the D-line. It's the stadium being built 3,000 miles away combined with the fact that the only time the Jaguars were in the news at all this year was for the possibility of having all 8 of their home games blacked out. Combine that with the fact that Jacksonville is in the heart of Gator Country and some of the most rabid college football fans in the country.

4-And it's not like QB isn't a need for the Jags anyway.

It's a unique situation. Tim Tebow might fail miserably in the NFL. And the scouting department in Jacksonville may be fully aware of this. But, if giving him a try for a few years would put some butts in the seats long enough for some other team draw the LA card, it's the best move for the franchise....if not the team.

[roscoesdad27]

the intangibles makes tebow the choice but my point is that it isnt a bad pick from a strategic point of view either.

the wild cat is lethal when properly ran by the proper personell...did you see the game monday night?...tebow could help evolve that offense into a viable nfl scheme...it could start out just like miamis but with more passing...then as tebow gets comfortable you could come out in the wildcat then motion into a regular offense or vice versa and you dont have to do no rinky dink "q.b. lined up at w.r.' stuff either....garrard will be the starter and he could play the whole game if he's on fire...but if he gets rattled or is having a bad game pull him to the sideline for a series or 2 to get him settled down and looking at some blimp pics...gradualy tebow could become the starter with the wildcat as the base package.

[wordofi]

1) local legend would be a HUGE hit with the fans and no team needs that more desperately than jax right now.

2) the emergence of the wildcat....miami just torched one of the bst defenses in the league with this formation monday night...i feel tebow can run this offense to perfection...this wont be no rinky dink, gerrard at w.r. bullcrap either...this will be a package with garrard off the field similiar to miamis but with more passing invloved plus more and more "regular packages" as he learns...garrard will still be the starter and will stay in the game when hot and at a reasonable pace...if he starts to have a bad game bring him to the sideline for a series or 2 to calm him down and show him some pics from the blimp.

Not with David Garrard's contract.

[JT Jag]

Not with David Garrard's contract.All of Garrard's guaranteed money comes off the books after this season.

Starting next year we can cut him with little to no ramifications.

[Babylon]

All of Garrard's guaranteed money comes off the books after this season.

Starting next year we can cut him with little to no ramifications.

I wouldnt want to be him then.

[Brent]

But, if giving him a try for a few years would put some butts in the seats long enough for some other team draw the LA card
winning games would also accomplish that.

[JT Jag]

winning games would also accomplish that.Stop making sense!

[drowe]

winning games would also accomplish that.

1-Really, would it? Not being sarcastic, I'm really asking. Back when the Jags were consistently good, were they selling out home games without issue? Just seems that Florida Pro Sports teams in general have this problem, regardless of how good the team is.

2-And, yeah, winning would help. But,the Jaguars play in a brutal division and have some glaring needs. They could turn it around, but conventional wisdom would say they won't be favored to win the division or make the playoffs for the foreseeable future. If getting fans is a priority, going the cosmetic route would be a quick fix. Get a guy people will pay to see. let the record take care of itself. And, really, all they need is a quick fix. If, in 5 years, Tim Tebow is a collasal bust and the Jaguars are bottom feeders, it'll suck, but a team will have likely already relocated to LA. So, losing the team will be a much lesser concern.

[JT Jag]

Drowe: From 1995-2000 when the Jaguars were consistantly amongst the top 4 teams in the NFL, the Jaguars regularly drew 73,000 people a game.

Ever since the collapse of the Coughlin era in Jacksonville from 2000-2003, we had trouble selling out. We did have one sell-out year in 2007 (even had a waiting list), but we weren't able to capitalize.

[ElectricEye]

the wild cat is lethal when properly ran by the proper personell...did you see the game monday night?...tebow could help evolve that offense into a viable nfl scheme...it could start out just like miamis but with more passing...then as tebow gets comfortable you could come out in the wildcat then motion into a regular offense or vice versa and you dont have to do no rinky dink "q.b. lined up at w.r.' stuff either....garrard will be the starter and he could play the whole game if he's on fire...but if he gets rattled or is having a bad game pull him to the sideline for a series or 2 to get him settled down and looking at some blimp pics...gradualy tebow could become the starter with the wildcat as the base package.
How is it even still a widcat formation when it's more balanced pass to run? Kind of defeats the intent of the package. You're basically running what Atlanta was starting to run with Vick in 2006. That didn't work out terribly well for them.

[Flyboy]

New Orleans begs to differ.

And yet we still don't run a "gimmick offense". Fail. :rolleyes:

[Unbiased]

- I know everyone ran with Weaver's comments, but he didn't say, "We will draft Tebow." Some mocks I've read say that it is already a done deal which is obviously not true.
- You have to realize we have a new GM. I could see the old GM, Shack Harris, take Tebow. He drafted Derrick Harvey and Reggie Nelson. Whether he chose them for fan support or lack of national scouting is up for debate. New GM Gene Smith has already shown to make smart picks (Eugene Monroe, Eben Britton, Terrance Knighton, and Derek Cox all starting). A lot of people were wanting Crabtree and he went the smart route.
- Given Smith's good draft in '09, I don't think Weaver would pressure him into drafting Tebow. He has to be happy with Gene, so he would logically give him complete control over the draft.

I really don't see it happening.

[SwagU]

Although this could be a good fit for Tebow I dont think the Jags will draft him they have stronger needs in other places on this team and have commited too much to Garrard. Still a great possibility but I think Tebow goes to the Vikings.

[Malaka]

If Tebow's around in the late 2nd I could see Jacksonville taking him, if they take him in the top 15 (where they will be picking)... then they deserve 3 seasons of failure, because that was a terrible pick.

[roscoesdad27]

How is it even still a widcat formation when it's more balanced pass to run? Kind of defeats the intent of the package. You're basically running what Atlanta was starting to run with Vick in 2006. That didn't work out terribly well for them.

it would still be a heavy run scheme...miami runs the ball over 90% of the time from this formation wheras tebow would be more like 70-30.