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Matthew Jones
10-19-2009, 10:47 PM
Just a list I put together with Lions WMD. Feel free to add to the list, I'm sure a lot of guys are missing.

NFL Head Coaches

Brian Billick (ex-BAL HC) - Has a ring and a decent winning percentage, will probably get some looks. Didn't look much like an offensive genius in Baltimore though.

Bill Cowher (ex-PIT HC) - Possibly the most desirable coach on the market. Went out on top. Will want full control of a team, and won't take just any job.

Jim Fassel (UFL HC) - A candidate for desperate teams like the Raiders with very undesirable coaching positions. Not likely to become a coach.

Dennis Green (UFL HC) - Had a great pedigree in the NFL before going to Arizona. Also has some fantastic drafts. I don't see him getting a job though.

John Gruden (ex-TB HC) - Could be a nice option for a team that doesn't want to give GM duties of its team away. Also has a ring, but was average ever since.

Mike Holmgren (ex-SEA HC) - Took a one year sabbatical and already wants to come back. I could see him being a frontrunner for some team.

Marty Schottenheimer (ex-SD HC) - I don't think he'll come back, but it's worth mentioning that in his last season as a head coach, he went 14-2.

Mike Shanahan (ex-DEN HC) - Great coach with two rings. However, he also wants GM duties, and he's shown that he's probably not the best GM out there.

NFL Assistant Coaches

Todd Bowles (MIA AHC) - A Bill Parcells guy. Very good reputation around the league, but the Dolphins haven't been too great so far this year.

Dom Capers (GB DC) - Doing a nice job in Green Bay and was respectable as head coach in Houston. Defensive guru with a pretty good reputation.

Jeff Davidson (CAR OC) - Had a nice reputation before the playoffs last year. Jake Delhomme's meltdown may have cost him a head coaching job.

Leslie Frazier (MIN DC) - Minnesota's defense is ridiculous and Frazier was close to becoming a head coach last year in St. Louis. Will be a hot candidate.

Jason Garrett (DAL OC) - Reputation has faltered a bit over the years, but young guys are the new thing in the NFL and he almost got the Rams job last year.

Kevin Gilbride (NYG OC) - New York has a nice offense and Gilbride is the man in charge. Not the best reputation, would need to take a bad job.

Russ Grimm (ARI AHC) - A very tough coaching candidate not unlike the guy he works under, Ken Whisenhunt. Could be a top candidate this year.

Hue Jackson (BAL QBC) - Did nice things with Carson Palmer and Joe Flacco. Proved he can handle a problem child in Cincinnati with Ochocinco.

Winston Moss (GB AHC) - Probably not experienced enough for a job, but that didn't stop him from being interviewed a few times last year. Could get a look.

Mike Mularkey (ATL OC) - Wasn't anything special in Buffalo in the two years he was there, but has done some very nice work in Atlanta with Ryan and co.

Mike Nolan (DEN DC) - Flamed out miserably in San Francisco, so it might be too soon for him. Doing an amazing job in Denver with limited talent.

Ron Rivera (SD DC) - One of the top coordinator candidates. Not doing a fantastic job in San Diego but he should still end up getting a few interviews.

Brian Schottenheimer (NYJ OC) - With some improvement from Mark Sanchez down the stretch, could get interviewed. Was in the shadow of Favre last year.

Kyle Shanahan (HOU OC) - Has done some pretty good work in Houston, but Kubiak still has a big hand in playcalling. Probably a couple of years off.

Gregg Williams (NO DC) - Doing an absolutely fantastic job in New Orleans, turning their defense into a powerhouse. Was a pretty bad head coach, though.

NCAA Head Coaches

Pete Carroll (USC HC) - It's doubtful that he'll want to leave one of the best jobs in the country for an NFL job, but if he did, he'd probably get GM duties.

Kirk Ferentz (IOWA HC) - Has Iowa at 7-0 this year, and an excellent NFL pedigree. Has been a little inconsistent in the past at Iowa, but remains a top NCAA candidate.

Go_Eagles77
10-19-2009, 10:51 PM
I could see Sean McDermott getting some interviews.

aNYtitan
10-19-2009, 11:05 PM
Is Tony Dungy gone for 1 year only? 2? Or has he probably proved all he needs to?

Brian Schottenheimer is a pretty good candidate, and so is Kevin Gilrbride for the possible Titans coaching job. I could also see Gruden as well.

Any other college football coaches to name? I'm thinking even though its unlikely, Monte Kiffin could (and should) be drawn to a head coaching job.

Matthew Jones
10-19-2009, 11:08 PM
My analysis of teams that could be looking for a new head coach, and who I think would make for a good fit in each situation:

Buffalo Bills

Dick Jauron is on the very hot seat - Mike Mularkey was fired following two 7-9 seasons, and Jauron already has three 7-9 years. I doubt he wins out, so I think he ends up getting fired. The Bills are ready to rebuild. I've heard whispers that they really like Jack Del Rio, but this year isn't helping Del Rio out much. Leslie Frazier would be nice.

Carolina Panthers

I'm a big fan of John Fox, so I don't think he deserves to be fired. This guy is just a year removed from a very good season, and if anyone deserves to get the axe after this year, it's Jake Delhomme. Fox still has time to turn it around, and I think he stays in the end. If he does get fired, someone in-house like Jeff Davidson might make sense.

Cleveland Browns

As awful as I think Eric Mangini is, I don't think he should get fired after this year. Yes, the Browns are pretty terrible, and Mangini is doing a good job alienating his players as usual, but the Browns were really hot for Mangini last offseason and they're going to give him more than a year. If he got fired, they'd be dying for Bill Cowher, though.

Dallas Cowboys

Jerry Jones has already said he won't fire Wade Phillips midseason, but unless the Cowboys win a playoff game, I don't see him sticking around. I like Wade, but he's not performing up to expectations in there. I don't think Jason Garrett has a good chance at being the next coach. My guess is that Mike Shanahan or Jeff Fisher is the front-runner.

Jacksonville Jaguars

I think Jack Del Rio will get the boot at the end of the season. He's had ample time to make his case and hasn't really done it yet, so I think he's on the outs. The Jaguars barely even beat the Rams, and that's sad. No one in-house is particularly appealing, so they'll have to look outside the box. Bringing in a tough guy like Kirk Ferentz would be a good move.

Oakland Raiders

In the face of possible legal concerns and some poor play this year from his team (despite beating the Eagles), Tom Cable is on the hot seat in Oakland. Then again, everyone is on the hot seat in Oakland. Plus, who would want this job? It'd have to be someone desperate, like Kevin Gilbride or maybe Jim Fassel.

San Diego Chargers

The Chargers aren't playing too well this year, and Marty Schottenheimer got fired for a lot less. Still, I think the Chargers will keep Norv Turner around. Why? He's won in the playoffs, and the Chargers still have some time to turn their season around. They could possibly interest Pete Carroll, or go in-house with Ron Rivera.

Tennessee Titans

Jeff Fisher hasn't won in the playoffs since 2003, when Tennessee still had McNair and Eddie George, and he's lost the team so far, with a 0-6 record and uninspired play. He could be a good coach somewhere else, but I think he's gone here. Too bad they missed out on Jim Schwartz. A good candidate here might be Russ Grimm.

Washington Redskins

It will be a travesty for Redskins fans everywhere if Jim Zorn doesn't get fired. Actually, I don't think anyone would be surprised if he got fired within the week. No one in house is up to the job, but the Redskins are a pretty desirable team to coach. They'll look for a big name guy, and I think they'll end up with John Gruden or maybe Mike Holmgren.

Matthew Jones
10-19-2009, 11:11 PM
I could see Sean McDermott getting some interviews.

I could too, but he's probably not been an assistant long enough. The Eagles are under-performing as well. Plus, we haven't really seen a lot of what he wants to do - he seems to just be doing the same thing Jim Johnson did, with what seem to be Johnson's plays and Johnson's guys.

Is Tony Dungy gone for 1 year only? 2? Or has he probably proved all he needs to?

Brian Schottenheimer is a pretty good candidate, and so is Kevin Gilrbride for the possible Titans coaching job. I could also see Gruden as well.

Any other college football coaches to name? I'm thinking even though its unlikely, Monte Kiffin could (and should) be drawn to a head coaching job.

Tony Dungy is probably going to stay retired. If he wanted to coach, he would have stayed in Indianapolis. If he does come back, it'll be far down the line, like what Parcells did. Both of the guys you mentioned would be pretty good for Tennessee schematically, but I don't see them as top tier candidates. If I remember correctly, Monte Kiffin has said he doesn't want to be a head coach (similar to Tom Moore), and that's probably for the best, because he's so old already.

aNYtitan
10-19-2009, 11:22 PM
Tony Dungy is probably going to stay retired. If he wanted to coach, he would have stayed in Indianapolis. If he does come back, it'll be far down the line, like what Parcells did. Both of the guys you mentioned would be pretty good for Tennessee schematically, but I don't see them as top tier candidates. If I remember correctly, Monte Kiffin has said he doesn't want to be a head coach (similar to Tom Moore), and that's probably for the best, because he's so old already.
Ah I had not read that Monte Kiffin quote. His age was my one concern with him.

In looking to the college ranks, of course you turn to the assistants of USC. Yeah I know, Lane Kiffin didn't work out or Norm Chow, but someone like Jeremy Bates should get a good look. Has coaching experience in the pros already and has done a good job with QB's in the pros and at USC.

Anybody else that could make that transition to the pros? The long tenured coaches I think will probably never leave (ie. Mack Brown, Pete Carroll, Bob Stoops, Urban Meyer [not just yet])

Brothgar
10-19-2009, 11:28 PM
No mention of Mike Martz? Martz's short comings in Detroit were not completely his fault. When you have two people saying two different things about your OL assignments it will turn into alot of sacks. OL Coach Jim Coletto (sp?) is just as much if not more at fault than Martz. The problem at SF is simple enough no QB worth a damn. I think he should at least get an OC gig this off season and I wouldn't be shocked if it was with the Cowboys.

GB12
10-19-2009, 11:30 PM
No mention of Mike Martz? Martz's short comings in Detroit were not completely his fault. When you have two people saying two different things about your OL assignments it will turn into alot of sacks. OL Coach Jim Coletto (sp?) is just as much if not more at fault than Martz. The problem at SF is simple enough no QB worth a damn. I think he should at least get an OC gig this off season and I wouldn't be shocked if it was with the Cowboys.
This is a head coaching candidate thread, not offensive coordinator candidates.

There's no way anyone's offering Mike Martz a head coaching job.

Brothgar
10-19-2009, 11:32 PM
This is a head coaching candidate thread, not offensive coordinator candidates.

There's no way anyone's offering Mike Martz a head coaching job.

Why does Brian Billick get consideration but not Martz?

Matthew Jones
10-19-2009, 11:37 PM
Why does Brian Billick get consideration but not Martz?

Brian Billick's not insane. Martz is also not much of a chemistry guy (front office people supposedly don't like him.) He's also pretty far removed from being a HC.

Brent
10-19-2009, 11:43 PM
A name not mentioned but should be noted: Greg Manusky, DC for the Niners. He's only 43, and has done a lot, with very little talent on the Niners.

aNYtitan
10-19-2009, 11:45 PM
A name not mentioned but should be noted: Greg Manusky, DC for the Niners. He's only 43, and has done a lot, with very little talent on the Niners.

He is more the cause of the revitalization of the niners defense then Singletary?

Brothgar
10-19-2009, 11:48 PM
Brian Billick's not insane. Martz is also not much of a chemistry guy (front office people supposedly don't like him.) He's also pretty far removed from being a HC.

Granted Martz is a full on nut job but his team scores many points. I can't confirm nor deny his FO issues. But Billick is farther removed from the league than Martz.

Giantsfan1080
10-19-2009, 11:51 PM
For the Titans fans is it at all possible that Fischer gets fired if your season continues to spiral out of control like this? It might be a Shanahan type situation.

CC.SD
10-19-2009, 11:52 PM
Russ Grimm please.

BlindSite
10-20-2009, 12:47 AM
Pete Carrol is always being mentioned as a possible NFL Head coaching candidate, but he'd be a terrible choice. His approach simply isn't strong enough to lead men, he's ok with young men and boys in College but he always has that air of "we'll do this together" in the wrong style players just don't respond to.

Not necessarily his success or therefore lack of, but more his approach his why he failed in his first stint in the NFL.

PoopSandwich
10-20-2009, 12:49 AM
I want Billick to coach the Browns if we fire Mangini unless we could some how get Cowher. I would also love Gruden but he would keep both of our ****** quarterbacks and add like 2 more ****** quarterbacks and then keep the shittiest quarterbacks on the team.

Brent
10-20-2009, 12:54 AM
He is more the cause of the revitalization of the niners defense then Singletary?
No, but if you want to know why the defense went from **** to good when Nolan was fired, there isnt a better explanation than Manusky.

A Perfect Score
10-20-2009, 12:55 AM
If I am looking for a Head Coach next season, Im looking no further then Jon Gruden. Have loved him his entire career, fiery guy, great scheme guy, gets a little heavy on the QB collecting but that could of just been Tampa...I thought he should of gotten offers this year, but going with lesser known guys is the hot thing to do in the NFL right now...I love Gruden.

Brown Leader
10-20-2009, 01:10 AM
An assistant who could get some looks is Was. sec. coach Jerry Gray. Has 34 and 43 experience and his squads generally play good and physical.

I hate Brian Billick.

BlindSite
10-20-2009, 01:15 AM
When Gruden finds a QB he can work with he's boner inducingly good, when he can't it's a bit of a shmozzle.

aNYtitan
10-20-2009, 01:16 AM
For the Titans fans is it at all possible that Fischer gets fired if your season continues to spiral out of control like this? It might be a Shanahan type situation.

Hell the replacing Jeff Fisher talk has already started. Unless they go on a run that takes them to 8-8 or something like that, he is probably gone.

Kurve
10-20-2009, 01:27 AM
My prediction on some coaching changes next year....


Bill Cowher to the Carolina Panthers or Tennessee Titans
Mike Shanahan to the Dallas Cowboys or Houston Texans
John Gruden to the San Diego Chargers
Jeff Fisher to the Jacksonville Jaguars or Chicago Bears ( i could see him take a year or 2 off before taking another job)
Mike Holmgren wont coach
Tony Dungy wont coach


Teams who will change coaches
Jaguars
Titans
Bills
Panthers
Raiders
Redskins
Texans
Cowboys
Chargers
Bears

TitanHope
10-20-2009, 04:10 AM
For the Titans fans is it at all possible that Fischer gets fired if your season continues to spiral out of control like this? It might be a Shanahan type situation.

*Fisher ;)

It's certainly a possibility. No coach can go 0-6 and not expect to feel some pressure, but in my opinion, I don't think it's likely.

I don't blame any Titans fan who's upset with Fish, especially after a record-breaking loss, but the man has gone 31-23 and had 2 playoff births with Vince Young and Kerry Collins as his starting QB's.

How good would your team be over 3 seasons with one of those two guys leading your offense?

It'll be interesting to see what takes place over the next two weeks, that's for sure.

wicket
10-20-2009, 05:48 AM
My prediction on some coaching changes next year....


Bill Cowher to the Carolina Panthers or Tennessee Titans
Mike Shanahan to the Dallas Cowboys or Houston Texans
John Gruden to the San Diego Chargers
Jeff Fisher to the Jacksonville Jaguars or Chicago Bears ( i could see him take a year or 2 off before taking another job)
Mike Holmgren wont coach
Tony Dungy wont coach


Teams who will change coaches
Jaguars
Titans
Bills
Panthers
Raiders
Redskins
Texans
Cowboys
Chargers
Bears

would be a good choice by the chargers imo. Gruden isnt good at building the core of a team but if the core pieces are in place he can build whats around it just fine.

abaddon41_80
10-20-2009, 06:17 AM
No, but if you want to know why the defense went from **** to good when Nolan was fired, there isnt a better explanation than Manusky.

I think Nolan was just holding the defense back with his schemes. Now they are playing out to their talent level.

LizardState
10-20-2009, 08:36 AM
This is a head coaching candidate thread, not offensive coordinator candidates.

There's no way anyone's offering Mike Martz a head coaching job.

Good comprehensive list, RoP.

And you're right about Martz, he is roundly hated by every front office who's hired him. The steaming pile of crap in St. Louis with a FOR SALE sign on it that was once the Rams franchise still has his fingerprints on it yrs later, & he screwed the pooch with Matt Millen in Detroit with his Martzball offense. And the mess in SF last yr was about 90% his fault, Martzball was a square peg in the round hole, even with his handpicked QB JT O'Sullivan brought with Martz from Detroit & whom they claimed "beat out" Hill & Smith for the starting job. JTOS was a local player (UCal-Davis) & a walking talking ball security liability, the pass rushers around the league all knew it & that he held the ball too long, they chopped his arm, stripped him, etc. for many, many turnovers. The 9ers defense was always defending a short field & gave up more points than ever, the offense was undermined & never had a chance as long as JTOS was at the helm.

Mike Nolan (DEN DC) - Flamed out miserably in San Francisco, so it might be too soon for him. Doing an amazing job in Denver with limited talent.

Nolan was the rest of it in 08 SF, he's a technician of defenses & personnel, not an administrator, just doesn't have the required type of personality to handle the media pressure during hard times & dealing with prickly owners. He threw former no. 1 overall pick Smith under the bus to save himself when he brought Smith back too soon from his shoulder injury, the media & fans sided with Smith & ate Nolan alive.

His upside is being shown now in Denver with their rebuilt defense. I as impressed watching them vs the Bolts Monday night. Note that for the 1st time in along time they can stop the run AND rush the passer. That Best Asst. Award s/b given to Nolan if awarded at this point. Singletary & Manusky of course deserve credit for rebuilding the 9ers defense & entire team, but Nolan put together the defensive building block with Pro Bowlers, drafting Willis & bringing in Clements via FA.

I've said this on other threads so I'll do it again here: if the Cowboys lose to the Raiders on Thanksgiving Day in front of the entire nation, Jerry Jones will can Phillips. If the Raiders bring their good luck pigeon with them to Dallas & he craps on Jerry's scoreboard, this will be guaranteed.

Brothgar
10-20-2009, 10:16 AM
Good comprehensive list, RoP.

And you're right about Martz, he is roundly hated by every front office who's hired him. The steaming pile of crap in St. Louis with a FOR SALE sign on it that was once the Rams franchise still has his fingerprints on it yrs later, & he screwed the pooch with Matt Millen in Detroit with his Martzball offense. And the mess in SF last yr was about 90% his fault, Martzball was a square peg in the round hole, even with his handpicked QB JT O'Sullivan brought with Martz from Detroit & whom they claimed "beat out" Hill & Smith for the starting job. JTOS was a local player (UCal-Davis) & a walking talking ball security liability, the pass rushers around the league all knew it & that he held the ball too long, they chopped his arm, stripped him, etc. for many, many turnovers. The 9ers defense was always defending a short field & gave up more points than ever, the offense was undermined & never had a chance as long as JTOS was at the helm.



I don't know how on earth people put what happened in Detroit on Mike Martz. They went from a 6 win team to a 0 win team in the transition from Mike Martz to Jim Coletto. The Lions were the 7th ranked offense and the one of the top 5 teams in passing behind the worst line in the NFL. I don't see how that is screwing the pooch.

As for Martz's 2008 "travesty" lets not forget that in 2007 the 49ers were near dead last in many if not most offensive categories under Martz they went up to like low 20s.

So lets not act like he ever made a team worse by becoming the OC.

EvilNixon
10-20-2009, 10:34 AM
I wonder how the Steelers' offense would look if Russ Grimm had been hired? This thread made me think about that.

Matthew Jones
10-20-2009, 03:24 PM
My prediction on some coaching changes next year....


Bill Cowher to the Carolina Panthers or Tennessee Titans
Mike Shanahan to the Dallas Cowboys or Houston Texans
John Gruden to the San Diego Chargers
Jeff Fisher to the Jacksonville Jaguars or Chicago Bears ( i could see him take a year or 2 off before taking another job)
Mike Holmgren wont coach
Tony Dungy wont coach


Teams who will change coaches
Jaguars
Titans
Bills
Panthers
Raiders
Redskins
Texans
Cowboys
Chargers
Bears

I could see Cowher going to Carolina, probably not Tennessee though. Carolina is a hometown for Cowher, so that makes sense. I agree that Fisher will take some time off most likely. Holmgren wants to come back from all indicators, and I don't think Gruden would be a fit in San Diego, really. I think Tom Cable should maybe get another year (who else are they going to get?) and if it was me I'd keep around Lovie Smith, John Fox, and maybe Wade Phillips and Norv Turner (if either wins a playoff game.)

fenikz
10-20-2009, 03:28 PM
I don't know if Grimm would do a better job as a HC then he is doing as our o-line coach, because I have seen no improvement over his 2+ seasons here

Rosebud
10-20-2009, 03:52 PM
Kevin Gilbride to the Raiders *sacrifices a virgin to FSM*

Gay Ork Wang
10-20-2009, 05:12 PM
why would the bears change coaches? right now they are doing fairly well even though the offensive line sucks ass

Bucs_Rule
10-20-2009, 07:00 PM
Lovie Smith took over defense play-calling and it has improved. If you fire him you have to get a new defensive cordinator as well.

CC.SD
10-20-2009, 08:44 PM
would be a good choice by the chargers imo. Gruden isnt good at building the core of a team but if the core pieces are in place he can build whats around it just fine.

I'd love his motivation but the fact is, the core pieces aren't in place. The D pretty much needs to be rebuilt from the ground up with Merriman's departure/J-Wall's fading/everyone else's uselessness. The O is looking pretty good but pretty soon we'll need a RB and definitely a couple more O-line pieces. Rivers, Gates and Jackson are fine, fine building blocks though.

Gruden and Rivers together could be extremely fun though, I have to admit. I'm still partial to Russ Grimm to kick some ass but Gruden is definitely up there.

SeanTaylorRIP
10-20-2009, 08:49 PM
I wish the Skins would hire Russ Grimm and bring him back home to bring toughness to this team and run it the right way, he also would allow Snyder to keep control of the team. We all know thought that we are throwing everything at Holmgren and Chucky.

Brothgar
10-20-2009, 08:53 PM
I wish the Skins would hire Russ Grimm and bring him back home to bring toughness to this team and run it the right way, he also would allow Snyder to keep control of the team. We all know thought that we are throwing everything at Holmgren and Chucky.

I was thinking about Russ Grimm coming home again but does anyone want a HC who got demoted from OC to OL coach/AHC in Arizona?

Xonraider
10-20-2009, 09:21 PM
Kevin Gilbride to the Raiders *sacrifices a virgin to FSM*

Cable isn't leaving... at least not this offseason.

CC.SD
10-20-2009, 09:22 PM
I was thinking about Russ Grimm coming home again but does anyone want a HC who got demoted from OC to OL coach/AHC in Arizona?

I just want someone mean. Someone who won't put up with Shaun Phillips tweeting about going to a fancy steakhouse an hour after last night's game, etc. etc.

Paranoidmoonduck
10-20-2009, 09:28 PM
Cable isn't leaving... at least not this offseason.

Why are you so sure?

aNYtitan
10-21-2009, 10:31 PM
How could I forget Herm "Play to win" Edwards? He has to be a candidate after this season. Took the Jets to the playoffs 3 out of 5 times and is definitely a passionate coach.

SwagU
10-21-2009, 10:36 PM
Why are you so sure?

Because no one else is willing to work for Al.

fenikz
10-22-2009, 04:12 AM
I was thinking about Russ Grimm coming home again but does anyone want a HC who got demoted from OC to OL coach/AHC in Arizona?

he wasn't OC last year, he actually got promoted to Run Game OC, Warner and Whis call the plays but he makes the plan

Shiver
10-22-2009, 10:43 AM
How could I forget Herm "Play to win" Edwards? He has to be a candidate after this season. Took the Jets to the playoffs 3 out of 5 times and is definitely a passionate coach.


:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Paranoidmoonduck
10-22-2009, 01:20 PM
Because no one else is willing to work for Al.

Someone will be willing to take the job. They'll just be obscure as ****.

awfullyquiet
10-22-2009, 01:22 PM
Why are you so sure?

I mean, he might be in jail.

Paranoidmoonduck
10-22-2009, 01:25 PM
That was my thought. He might not even make it through the season before he's convicted of assault. Even if he avoids that, I'd be surprised if he keeps the job.

Rosebud
10-22-2009, 02:14 PM
Someone will be willing to take the job. They'll just be obscure as ****.

How about Kevin Killdrive, he'll work for al and isn't obscure as ****.