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Cicero
11-03-2009, 04:20 AM
Caddy what time does the clock start? Nevermind I see you guys added it to the title of the draft thread.

Rosebud
11-03-2009, 04:21 AM
I'd still like an explanation for the rejection of the Tommie Harris deal considering that by the end of the season all of his bonuses will be paid and his base salary is rather meager.

Caddy
11-03-2009, 04:21 AM
Caddy what time does the clock start?

12 p.m. CST

I'll be around for longer tomorrow than I was today.

Caddy
11-03-2009, 04:22 AM
I'd still like an explanation for the rejection of the Tommie Harris deal considering that by the end of the season all of his bonuses will be paid and his base salary is rather meager.

It's not just monetary. I didn't feel the value was there.

Rosebud
11-03-2009, 04:33 AM
It's not just monetary. I didn't feel the value was there.

So if I came up with a fairer Harris trade it would be a done deal?

Caddy
11-03-2009, 05:50 AM
So if I came up with a fairer Harris trade it would be a done deal?

I guess so.

CJSchneider
11-03-2009, 08:00 AM
Just a reminder, the Colts have pick #78 now.

senormysterioso
11-03-2009, 09:08 AM
I (the Saints) would be willing to trade Charles Grant for a good 4-3 nose tackle

scottyboy
11-03-2009, 09:29 AM
guys, I'm looking to trade down but I've got class from 125-3 so if the Giants are up from that time, please be lenient if I'm not back or such. I'm talking with my unofficial co-gm's haha and I'd like to field some trade offers.

love you all <3

D-Unit
11-03-2009, 11:19 AM
Woooooo!!! The Cowboys made the absolute RIGHT pick!!!

A+++++++++++++++++!!!!!!!!

djp
11-03-2009, 11:21 AM
guys, I'm looking to trade down but I've got class from 125-3 so if the Giants are up from that time, please be lenient if I'm not back or such. I'm talking with my unofficial co-gm's haha and I'd like to field some trade offers.

love you all <3

You should pick in the next hour then, or decide what you want to do. Don't leave us waiting for 2 hours!

DiG
11-03-2009, 11:21 AM
Woooooo!!! The Cowboys made the absolute RIGHT pick!!!

A+++++++++++++++++!!!!!!!!

the d unit seal of approval.

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/22/seal-of-approval.jpg

scottyboy
11-03-2009, 11:46 AM
ok, I'm here, I'll go solooooo on this pick, just lemme weigh my options

djp
11-03-2009, 12:06 PM
Just texted JBond, hopefully he responds soon

fischbowl
11-03-2009, 12:11 PM
I'd imagine he's teaching right now. But then of course:

Forum Mock > Responsibility

Shane P. Hallam
11-03-2009, 12:58 PM
I'd imagine he's teaching right now. But then of course:

Forum Mock > Responsibility

I concur. Posted from school. My phone is dying, I'm lucky I got the text.

Brothgar
11-03-2009, 12:58 PM
The Pittsburgh Steelers select:


Jerry Hughes LB/TCU

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BwMQiTTD5Ak/SoLhFFp6jUI/AAAAAAAAA3Q/F6U1346mjsk/s400/Jerry+Hughes.jpg

Reasoning: Our LB depth is atrocious. After Harrison and Woodley, the Steelers lack any OLB playmakers. Hughes can be brought into the Steelers defense slowly, and eventually take over for Harrison in 2-3 years.


http://www.desca.dk/Gammelt/fuuuuu.png

D-Unit
11-03-2009, 01:01 PM
Brilliant pick by the Steelers! I love the fit... fills a need with a player that has the tenacity and aggressiveness of a typical Steelers defender.

scottyboy
11-03-2009, 01:24 PM
i actually almost picked Hughes. Just not sure howhe'd fit with us though and that safety is a bit of a need

D-Unit
11-03-2009, 01:36 PM
i actually almost picked Hughes. Just not sure howhe'd fit with us though and that safety is a bit of a need
Hughes would've been a bad fit for you. But Jones was a big reach anyways. There are other guys I thought you should've taken. ...especially since you think Phllips still has a career left. (I don't btw).

Nice pick by the Bengals with Gresham.

Hines
11-03-2009, 01:37 PM
Hughes, Timmons, Wood, Harrison rushing would be deadly.

scottyboy
11-03-2009, 01:52 PM
Hughes would've been a bad fit for you. But Jones was a big reach anyways. There are other guys I thought you should've taken. ...especially since you think Phllips still has a career left. (I don't btw).

Nice pick by the Bengals with Gresham.

you don't think Phillips has a career left? huh?
and even if he didn't, Jones wouldn't be much of a reach. It's a need with a proven safety from a big time school and conference.

DiG
11-03-2009, 02:00 PM
you don't think Phillips has a career left? huh?
and even if he didn't, Jones wouldn't be much of a reach. It's a need with a proven safety from a big time school and conference.

you shoulda reached on d'imperio or blaszczyk.

scottyboy
11-03-2009, 02:04 PM
you shoulda reached on d'imperio or blaszczyk.

hey! NO NAME DROPPING DAMMIT!

D-Unit
11-03-2009, 02:19 PM
you shoulda reached on d'imperio or blaszczyk.
Truthfully, he should've traded for Daneial Manning.

Rosebud
11-03-2009, 02:32 PM
Truthfully, he should've traded for Daneial Manning.

to add another FS to a giants defense that has one decent or better FS and one soon to be stud FS already?

DiG
11-03-2009, 02:37 PM
ya giants dont need a fs they need a ss that can support the run game.

D-Unit
11-03-2009, 02:43 PM
to add another FS to a giants defense that has one decent or better FS and one soon to be stud FS already?
Manning is better than any Safety on the Giants. Phillips' promising career is over. He may come back, but he'll only be a shell of what was to be.

DJC
11-03-2009, 02:50 PM
Text me if i come up 4073120375

djp
11-03-2009, 02:54 PM
Thoughts on Seattle's pick here, assuming it's not made in time?

Hines
11-03-2009, 02:55 PM
Javid Best or Dwyer.

Rosebud
11-03-2009, 02:55 PM
Manning is better than any Safety on the Giants. Phillips' promising career is over. He may come back, but he'll only be a shell of what was to be.

Alrighty then. Danieal Manning is not a better safety than Michael Johnson, neither can play the run and Michael Johnson is just as good in coverage at not making plays. And you can't say definitively either way on Kenny, you'd know what your talking about and I don't know what I'd be talking about if I had to make the case for his full return, neither of us have that information or medical understanding. So while again I appreciate you're input but you are pretty wrong on the giants safety situation if you think another FS is the solution.

princefielder28
11-03-2009, 02:57 PM
Javid Best or Dwyer.

They already took Spiller

princefielder28
11-03-2009, 02:59 PM
I would say Charles Brown, seeing as they have a need at LT

Hines
11-03-2009, 02:59 PM
They already took Spiller

Oh. Ciron Black?

DiG
11-03-2009, 03:00 PM
I would say Charles Brown, seeing as they have a need at LT

i second that.

D-Unit
11-03-2009, 03:10 PM
Alrighty then. Danieal Manning is not a better safety than Michael Johnson, neither can play the run and Michael Johnson is just as good in coverage at not making plays. And you can't say definitively either way on Kenny, you'd know what your talking about and I don't know what I'd be talking about if I had to make the case for his full return, neither of us have that information or medical understanding. So while again I appreciate you're input but you are pretty wrong on the giants safety situation if you think another FS is the solution.
Oh I definitely know Phillips is done. D-O-N-E, DONE. If it's bad enough that the doctors have reported it a possibility, then it's real bad. Michael Johnson is better than Danieal Manning in what world? Giantshomerville? I really do appreciate the faith you have in your team though.

Cicero
11-03-2009, 03:15 PM
Alright I have to go to class, someone text me who the next two picks are when my pick comes up.

360-461-6141

Todd Bertuzzi
11-03-2009, 03:32 PM
Looking to package picks 74 and 85 to trade up into the 2nd.

DeepThreat
11-03-2009, 03:34 PM
I think Hughes would have been a really good pick by the Giants. I've heard that a lot of teams prefer him as a 4-3 end.

djp
11-03-2009, 03:42 PM
Charles Brown for Seattle.

Green Bay OTC.

djp
11-03-2009, 04:10 PM
Anyone know where Wonderbredd is?

senormysterioso
11-03-2009, 04:11 PM
The Saints are looking to move back into the top of the second round for Charles Grant, next years 1st and a 5th

djp
11-03-2009, 04:18 PM
The Saints are looking to move back into the top of the second round for Charles Grant, next years 1st and a 5th

No future draft picks can be traded.

Shane P. Hallam
11-03-2009, 04:34 PM
I am tired as hell. Going to take a quick one hour nap. I have cells/boards for the Ravens, Skins, and Lions. Likely won't hit them anyway until late tonight.

senormysterioso
11-03-2009, 04:51 PM
No future draft picks can be traded.

Oops, missed that...Charles Grant and Jermon Bushrod are certainly worth a second though! Anybody....anybody???

Hines
11-03-2009, 05:06 PM
Hopefully we get to my pick soon.

RaiderNation
11-03-2009, 05:07 PM
Wonder is here. I think he is gonna trade with somebody.

Also my 2nd(39) is on the block. PM if interested

fischbowl
11-03-2009, 05:07 PM
JBond will text me when my pick is up. I'm heading off to the strip club for some tits in my face. Maybe this will be the first draft pick ever made with any GM's face full of voluptuous hard bodies

fischbowl
11-03-2009, 05:29 PM
Much to my dismay, I'll have to save those plans for a later date :(

scottyboy
11-03-2009, 05:31 PM
I think Hughes would have been a really good pick by the Giants. I've heard that a lot of teams prefer him as a 4-3 end.

trust me, I debated it strongly. BUT with KP's career "in jeopardy" (trust me, he'll be back next year with a vengence, but Dr. D-Unit disagrees.) and Jones gives us another safety to pair with Johnson who's developing QUITE nicely. I'm impressed by him. Worst case scenario, Jones gives us a nice young safety. PLUS, the Giants love(d) to run 3 safety sets and send one on the blitz. but real talk, with the perhaps uncapped year, Kiwi would stay a Giants and Hughes would just be almost overkill and I don't wanna risk CC Brown ever seeing the field again

RaiderNation
11-03-2009, 05:34 PM
Somebody text Jbond that the Ravens are on the clock?

fischbowl
11-03-2009, 05:47 PM
Let JBond have his beauty sleep

Todd Bertuzzi
11-03-2009, 05:48 PM
I can text APS if someone has his number since I accidentally deleted it.

fenikz
11-03-2009, 06:03 PM
prob be awhile before my picks, but my number is on the bottom of my depth chart if im up and not around

Hines
11-03-2009, 06:04 PM
Dammit! ****! Ravens chose who I was just about to take. Cannot believe he fell this far. Yeah he might have weight issues, but if you're hard on his ass and make him diet right, you got yourself one hell of a player.

Hines
11-03-2009, 06:17 PM
I got my pick ready.

Todd Bertuzzi
11-03-2009, 06:47 PM
Panthers are up.

fenikz
11-03-2009, 06:57 PM
Cardinals looking to possibly move up, willing to package our late 2nd & 3rd or players

Hines
11-03-2009, 06:59 PM
There is one guy that I am absolutely stunned with the fact that he is sliding down.

Cicero
11-03-2009, 07:01 PM
There is one guy that I am absolutely stunned with the fact that he is sliding down.

Ya I expected a fall but not this far.

RaiderNation
11-03-2009, 07:01 PM
I would have picked that guy if he fit my scheme....

Hines
11-03-2009, 07:02 PM
Ya I expected a fall but not this far.

PM me who you think it is and I'll let you know if you are thinking who I am thinking.

Cicero
11-03-2009, 07:04 PM
We said once you miss a pick you're removed from your team right?

DJC
11-03-2009, 07:05 PM
He fell this far because he's a bust

Todd Bertuzzi
11-03-2009, 07:08 PM
He fell this far because he's a bust

I don't think you're thinking of the same player.

Cicero
11-03-2009, 07:10 PM
If my last post is the case I can just make the Seahawks pick.

fischbowl
11-03-2009, 07:14 PM
It's not like he's running out his time

Malaka
11-03-2009, 07:17 PM
I can't believe *********** is still on the board.

Don't name drop!

fischbowl
11-03-2009, 07:32 PM
It ain't Cox unless it tastes like Cox

Malaka
11-03-2009, 07:34 PM
Lmao this is like the 2nd time I have been edited -__- wth!

Todd Bertuzzi
11-03-2009, 07:40 PM
Couple of steals right there.

princefielder28
11-03-2009, 07:40 PM
Brian Price has Top 15 talent/potential, great pick

Todd Bertuzzi
11-03-2009, 07:41 PM
Price was who I thought Hines was referring to.

When I found out who he was actually referring to I almost vomited.

fischbowl
11-03-2009, 07:43 PM
Thanks all for the compliments.

RaiderNation
11-03-2009, 07:46 PM
Would have gotten Price, but already have Kelly at UT, and Price isnt a NT ina 4-3

DJC
11-03-2009, 07:54 PM
Im willing to trade down from #47 if anyone is interested

scottyboy
11-03-2009, 07:59 PM
i was really hoping Norwood would fall...meh

bored of education
11-03-2009, 08:29 PM
I hope hines does not mess up this next pick -.-

princefielder28
11-03-2009, 08:54 PM
What's the plan w/ SF??? They've gone CB, OT so far

Hines
11-03-2009, 08:58 PM
I'd go OLB. They could use another pass rusher.

princefielder28
11-03-2009, 08:59 PM
I'd go OLB. They could use another pass rusher.

Ricky Sapp???

Hines
11-03-2009, 08:59 PM
Ricky Sapp???

Yeah, he'd be a good pick.

RaiderNation
11-03-2009, 09:06 PM
They also need help at FS

princefielder28
11-03-2009, 09:15 PM
They also need help at FS

Morgan Burnett would top that list then

CJSchneider
11-03-2009, 09:24 PM
Sorry guys, real life stuff caught me at a bad moment.
Hines and PF - you guys nailed that one.

princefielder28
11-03-2009, 09:33 PM
Props to the Bucs on adding some nice young pieces to that D

Berry, Morgan, Oghobaase

A Perfect Score
11-03-2009, 09:36 PM
So now that Im done, what do you guys think of the Ravens draft?

1. Sergio Kindle
2. Terrence Cody
3. Golden Tate

Hines
11-03-2009, 09:39 PM
F because you took Mount Cody away from me. JK of course. The Ravens did a hell of a job. Super Bowl contender for sure.

djp
11-03-2009, 09:49 PM
So now that Im done, what do you guys think of the Ravens draft?

1. Sergio Kindle
2. Terrence Cody
3. Golden Tate

Honestly,

Kindle - B- - has talent but I'm not a huge fan .. minor reach
Cody - A- - Good value for a potentially dominant NT, unique skills
Tate - C+ - Another #2 on a team that's had what seems like an endless supply.

A decent draft.

princefielder28
11-03-2009, 09:59 PM
do we have a # or BB from the bears???

Todd Bertuzzi
11-03-2009, 10:00 PM
do we have a # or BB from the bears???

He's here. So are the Cards and Eagles so we can get a little roll going.

D-Unit
11-03-2009, 10:08 PM
So now that Im done, what do you guys think of the Ravens draft?

1. Sergio Kindle
2. Terrence Cody
3. Golden Tate
Kindle - B. Traded up when you didn't need to. Denver wasn't taking him. Kindle is a total project at OLB. I really don't see him beating NFL OTs off the edge to get to the QB. Most successful 3-4 OLB transitions are from 4-3 DEs in college.

Cody - C. I don't like Cody at all and that is well documented. Sloppy player who's size will be less of an advantage against NFL C/OGs than whimpy college C/OGs. I never quite understood the move of Ngata to DE. Moving him to NT, and getting an aggressive DE would've made more sense to me.

Tate - A+. I love Tate! The next Hines Ward baby!

A Perfect Score
11-03-2009, 10:11 PM
Kindle - B. Traded up when you didn't need to. Denver wasn't taking him. Kindle is a total project at OLB. I really don't see him beating NFL OTs off the edge to get to the QB. Most successful 3-4 OLB transitions are from 4-3 DEs in college.

Cody - C. I don't like Cody at all and that is well documented. Sloppy player who's size will be less of an advantage against NFL C/OGs than whimpy college C/OGs. I never quite understood the move of Ngata to DE. Moving him to NT, and getting an aggressive DE would've made more sense to me.

Tate - A+. I love Tate! The next Hines Ward baby!

I was actually more concerned with San Fran taking him then Denver. Cody was BPA or close to it at that point, and with us switching to more of a 4-3 look these days, some depth inside was needed. Ray Lewis could go a whole season without taking on a single blocker with Ngata and Cody in front of him. And Tate was the receiver I was locked on all draft, and was happy to get him in the 2nd.

djp
11-03-2009, 10:13 PM
Kindle - B. Traded up when you didn't need to. Denver wasn't taking him. Kindle is a total project at OLB. I really don't see him beating NFL OTs off the edge to get to the QB. Most successful 3-4 OLB transitions are from 4-3 DEs in college.

Cody - C. I don't like Cody at all and that is well documented. Sloppy player who's size will be less of an advantage against NFL C/OGs than whimpy college C/OGs. I never quite understood the move of Ngata to DE. Moving him to NT, and getting an aggressive DE would've made more sense to me.

Tate - A+. I love Tate! The next Hines Ward baby!

Tate the next Hines Ward?? They are nothing alike, lol.

princefielder28
11-03-2009, 10:17 PM
Iupati is a wonderful choice, gonna be a beast

princefielder28
11-03-2009, 10:21 PM
I was gonna take dunlap

Hines
11-03-2009, 10:22 PM
Sweet, I should be able to pick in about 20 minutes or so.

fenikz
11-03-2009, 10:23 PM
I had to do it Cardinals style and take the DL who fell to the 2nd

fischbowl
11-03-2009, 10:25 PM
Dunlapzzzzzzzzzzzz

DJC
11-03-2009, 10:27 PM
I was gonna take Dunlap to play UT for us, but I was like nah I'll take Oghobaase who actually knows how to play football

Chucky
11-03-2009, 10:59 PM
The Bucs draft has gone ******* great so far. I mean I was a bit skeptical about Berry over Suh, but with Morgan and Vince O...the draft is looking great.

D-Unit
11-03-2009, 11:10 PM
The Bucs draft has gone ******* great so far. I mean I was a bit skeptical about Berry over Suh, but with Morgan and Vince O...the draft is looking great.
Suh was the #1 overall pick.

djp
11-03-2009, 11:12 PM
Suh was the #1 overall pick.

Yeah, I was just gonna say that. Suh went 1 and Berry 2, so he didn't have that chance.

Still don't know about Berry as the #2 player, I think he will fall a bit on draft day, but he's an elite talent regardless.

I just don't see how a safety can go in the top 2.

DJC
11-03-2009, 11:25 PM
Yeah, I was just gonna say that. Suh went 1 and Berry 2, so he didn't have that chance.

Still don't know about Berry as the #2 player, I think he will fall a bit on draft day, but he's an elite talent regardless.

I just don't see how a safety can go in the top 2.

I drafted him as a CB. I think he's still an elite talent there too and it's a little easier to justify the pick. If it doesn't work out there, he could always move back to safety.

I like McCoy, but with the depth of DTs in this class I thought I could get a pretty good one in the 2nd. I was hoping for Brian Price, but satisfied with Oghobaase.

Cicero
11-04-2009, 04:10 AM
Chances are I'll be at class when my pick comes up so if you guys could send me a text again that would be great.

CJSchneider
11-04-2009, 05:37 AM
OK, go ahead and evaluate my 49ers draft :

Drafted
#9 Joe Haden, CB, Florida
#16 Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
#46 Ricky Sapp, DE/OLB, Clemson

Acquired
Tony Oguh - OT- Colts
Chris Carr - CB/KR - Ravens

Brothgar
11-04-2009, 08:52 AM
OK, go ahead and evaluate my 49ers draft :

Drafted
#9 Joe Haden, CB, Florida
#16 Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
#46 Ricky Sapp, DE/OLB, Clemson

Acquired
Tony Oguh - OT- Colts
Chris Carr - CB/KR - Ravens

Getting Ugoh for what is essentially a 3rd round value was a steal IMO as was Ricky Sapp I'm really unsure why you had to take the other OT though what is wrong with Joe Staley?

Chucky
11-04-2009, 10:06 AM
Suh was the #1 overall pick.

Sorry I meant to say McCoy. I prefer McCoy over Suh anyways.

CJSchneider
11-04-2009, 11:07 AM
Getting Ugoh for what is essentially a 3rd round value was a steal IMO as was Ricky Sapp I'm really unsure why you had to take the other OT though what is wrong with Joe Staley?

Call it my resolution to the Marvell Smith and Tony Pashos situations.

D-Unit
11-04-2009, 11:54 AM
OK, go ahead and evaluate my 49ers draft :

Drafted
#9 Joe Haden, CB, Florida
#16 Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
#46 Ricky Sapp, DE/OLB, Clemson

Acquired
Tony Oguh - OT- Colts
Chris Carr - CB/KR - Ravens
Joe Haden - B+. For a guy as highly touted as he is, he sure does give up a lot of plays. Weak CB class, but your pass defense is horrific, so the pick is ok.

Trent Williams - B-. After trading for Ugoh, I don't understand the pick. Have the 9ers given up on Joe Staley?

Ricky Sapp - A-. I like Sapp and think he'll go higher than 46. A lot of untapped potential, but there are question marks about his ability to reach it.

Hines
11-04-2009, 11:58 AM
I have one more pick, but rate the Chiefs' draft:

1-7: Russell Okung OT Oklahoma State
2-37: Arrelious Benn WR Illinois
2-54: Kristopher O'Dowd C USC

Traded For:

FS Michael Huff (Raiders)
WR Limas Sweed (Steelers)

Traded away:

RB Larry Johnson
LB Derrick Johnson

D-Unit
11-04-2009, 12:00 PM
Sorry I meant to say McCoy. I prefer McCoy over Suh anyways.
I actually like the Berry pick. DT is actually a pretty deep position in this year's draft. ...but there is only 2 players like Berry at his position.

D-Unit
11-04-2009, 12:14 PM
I have one more pick, but rate the Chiefs' draft:

1-7: Russell Okung OT Oklahoma State
2-37: Arrelious Benn WR Illinois
2-54: Kristopher O'Dowd C USC

Traded For:

FS Michael Huff (Raiders)
WR Limas Sweed (Steelers)

Traded away:

RB Larry Johnson
LB Derrick Johnson
Okung - A. I like KC trying to get back to the days when their OL was dominant.
Benn - A. I think Haley will find nice usage out of him.
O'Dowd - A. Same comments as above.

Huff - A. He's had a nice year this year. Finally coming around.
Sweed - C. Meh.

djp
11-04-2009, 01:03 PM
Thoughts on the pick here for Dallas?

Hines
11-04-2009, 01:05 PM
Morgan Burnett?

Brothgar
11-04-2009, 01:05 PM
Nate Allen they traded Hamlin so I think a safety should be in the cards.

djp
11-04-2009, 01:09 PM
Burnett is gone. Allen is my thought, too, but I'll give it another couple minutes or so.

vikes_28
11-04-2009, 01:14 PM
Guys I'm stuck with what to do with the vikings 61st pick. I wanted Dunlap to fall to us, but that didn't work out. I tried to trade up for Terrance Cody, the teams were asking for too much and he went too early anyways. I'm thinking I might go with my 3rd option here. Which would be a QB. Who do you guys think would be a good fit for our offense?

Brothgar
11-04-2009, 01:15 PM
Nate Allen they traded Hamlin so I think a safety should be in the cards.

God damn I'm good!

D-Unit
11-04-2009, 01:19 PM
Shoot.... I knew who Staubach wanted all along. The thread said the Chargers were OTC so I thought we were waiting for them.

Dallas is having the best draft so far considering their pick location, the players they found, the fits vs need and upside.

Dream draft for me.

Hines
11-04-2009, 01:23 PM
Anyone need a WR and Bobby Wade interests you, PM me.

D-Unit
11-04-2009, 01:34 PM
Denver has added:

QB Sam Bradford, Draft - First Round
RB Tashard Choice, Dallas
OG Chris Chester, Baltimore
OG Anthony Herrera, Minnesota

DE Trevor Pryce, Baltimore
ILB Bradie James, Dallas

Denver has lost:
TE Daniel Graham
CB Champ Baliey
S Renaldo Hill

What are their biggest needs remaining?

Brothgar
11-04-2009, 01:35 PM
Denver has added:

QB Sam Bradford, Draft - First Round
RB Tashard Choice, Dallas
OG Chris Chester, Baltimore
OG Anthony Herrera, Minnesota

DE Trevor Pryce, Baltimore
ILB Bradie James, Dallas

Denver has lost:
TE Daniel Graham
CB Champ Baliey
S Renaldo Hill

What are their biggest needs remaining?

Nose Tackle.

fenikz
11-04-2009, 01:36 PM
Opinion on my moves so far?

Traded #24 for #51 and Vernon Gholston

Drafted Carlos Dunlap with #51 and Rodney Hudson with #55

D-Unit
11-04-2009, 01:37 PM
Nose Tackle.
I like Chris Baker who they drafted in the 4th round last year. I still think he deserves a chance before another project is brought in.

Hines
11-04-2009, 01:40 PM
Denver has added:

QB Sam Bradford, Draft - First Round
RB Tashard Choice, Dallas
OG Chris Chester, Baltimore
OG Anthony Herrera, Minnesota

DE Trevor Pryce, Baltimore
ILB Bradie James, Dallas

Denver has lost:
TE Daniel Graham
CB Champ Baliey
S Renaldo Hill

What are their biggest needs remaining?

I'd get another WR to play the slot, although Gaffney and Stockley aren't that bad. Corner could be another position since you traded Bailey.

D-Unit
11-04-2009, 02:05 PM
I'd get another WR to play the slot, although Gaffney and Stockley aren't that bad. Corner could be another position since you traded Bailey.
Good advice. Same thoughts. Ideally if we had FA, I'd go for a Corner there since I don't really want 2 young starting corners. Alphonso Smith has one side locked up.

I say we each get 1 FA signing! whadduya say? whadduya say? :p

Hines
11-04-2009, 02:06 PM
Brian Waters is now on the trading block. Interested in a solid guard, shoot me a PM.

LTgiants
11-04-2009, 02:07 PM
idk if is it really worth me asking what peoples opinions are on my moves but oh well here we go

Added

Cliff Avril
Anthony Collins
Taylor Mays
Tyson Alualu

Lost
Shawne Merriman

senormysterioso
11-04-2009, 02:07 PM
New Orleans Offseason:
Aquired...

Aaron Kampman: Will play his natural spot at left defensive end in the 4-3 here. He has a motor and a work ethic that coaches love, at 29 years old he still has plenty of football left in him at a high level. Adding a pro bowler to an already talented defense can't hurt!

AJ Hawk: Unquestionable top 5 talent coming into the league, New Orleans is happy to give him an opportunity to make plays at his natural WLB spot in the 4-3 where he had 84 tackles as a rookie. At only 25 years old, a very good bet for a second round pick

Ted Ginn Jr: Traded a 3rd round pick, and Devery Henderson for him. High risk/high reward type deal. Henderson was taking snaps away from what I feel are more talented receivers in Lance Moore and Robert Meachum. Ted Ginn is a deadly kick returner as we all saw last week, if a player coming out of college had no value as a receiver and his return ability he'd be at least a 3rd rounder, that was my logic. Also, at only 24 years old, he still has time to figure it out at receiver. Putting Reggie Bush and Ted Ginn on the field even just as decoys is valuable in and of itself.

Thoughts?

Brothgar
11-04-2009, 02:14 PM
GD it I wish it was my pick.

CJSchneider
11-04-2009, 02:20 PM
Trent Williams - B-. After trading for Ugoh, I don't understand the pick. Have the 9ers given up on Joe Staley?


No, not at all, but when I look back at how the team went out and got Marvel Smith(who then announced his retirement) and Tony Pashos (who is now on IR) I couldn't pass up the chance to get that Williams with pick 16 nor pass up Ugoh for a 3rd rounder. I could see in retrospect where I could have used pick 16 for another need, but I guess I'm just ultra cautious / conservative.

D-Unit
11-04-2009, 02:22 PM
New Orleans Offseason:
Aquired...

Aaron Kampman: Will play his natural spot at left defensive end in the 4-3 here. He has a motor and a work ethic that coaches love, at 29 years old he still has plenty of football left in him at a high level. Adding a pro bowler to an already talented defense can't hurt!

AJ Hawk: Unquestionable top 5 talent coming into the league, New Orleans is happy to give him an opportunity to make plays at his natural WLB spot in the 4-3 where he had 84 tackles as a rookie. At only 25 years old, a very good bet for a second round pick

Ted Ginn Jr: Traded a 3rd round pick, and Devery Henderson for him. High risk/high reward type deal. Henderson was taking snaps away from what I feel are more talented receivers in Lance Moore and Robert Meachum. Ted Ginn is a deadly kick returner as we all saw last week, if a player coming out of college had no value as a receiver and his return ability he'd be at least a 3rd rounder, that was my logic. Also, at only 24 years old, he still has time to figure it out at receiver. Putting Reggie Bush and Ted Ginn on the field even just as decoys is valuable in and of itself.

Thoughts?
A+ based on this being a fantasy scenario. Props for what you did!

C- based on realism. The GB trade is too fake. Ted Ginn was realistic though.

D-Unit
11-04-2009, 02:28 PM
No, not at all, but when I look back at how the team went out and got Marvel Smith(who then announced his retirement) and Tony Pashos (who is now on IR) I couldn't pass up the chance to get that Williams with pick 16 nor pass up Ugoh for a 3rd rounder. I could see in retrospect where I could have used pick 16 for another need, but I guess I'm just ultra cautious / conservative.
Yeah, I would give you a lower grade for being cautious when you have so many other needs.

A Perfect Score
11-04-2009, 02:29 PM
Like Sergio Kindle! He is everyone's need! Muahahaha San Fran!

princefielder28
11-04-2009, 02:38 PM
text me if we get to my pick

920.655.7932

Cicero
11-04-2009, 02:41 PM
Looks like I might be back from class after all. If my pick does come up text me please. 360-461-6141

Brothgar
11-04-2009, 03:46 PM
soooo... Giants???

D-Unit
11-04-2009, 03:49 PM
soooo... Giants???
They have needs at QB, RB, FB, OT, OG, C, TE, WR, DE, DT, OLB, ILB, CB, FS, SS.

vikes_28
11-04-2009, 03:51 PM
They have needs at QB, RB, FB, OT, OG, C, TE, WR, DE, DT, OLB, ILB, CB, FS, SS.

http://www.flashpointsocialmedia.com/Area51/Orion/Images/o_rly.jpg

Brothgar
11-04-2009, 03:56 PM
They have needs at QB, RB, FB, OT, OG, C, TE, WR, DE, DT, OLB, ILB, CB, FS, SS.

Thank god for Jeff Feagles

djp
11-04-2009, 04:36 PM
I am thinking possibly somewhere on the OL for the Giants.

princefielder28
11-04-2009, 04:39 PM
I am thinking possibly somewhere on the OL for the Giants.

go interior line

D-Unit
11-04-2009, 04:54 PM
So how long is the clock for each pick again? I don't keep up with CST time zone. We should always use EST as the standard. Everyone knows how to convert from that.

fischbowl
11-04-2009, 04:55 PM
-1 hour from EST.

Scotty will be on, let him pick himself

Rosebud
11-04-2009, 04:55 PM
give the giants Jared Odrick. Our biggest need after SS is DT.

DeepThreat
11-04-2009, 05:00 PM
Wrong thread.

RaiderNation
11-04-2009, 05:02 PM
My offseason

Picked up...

QB Tarvaris Jackson
He has been inconsistant with the Vikings, but has showed he can be a starter in my mind. Still young too. Picked him up by moving down in the 3rd.

OLB Derrick Johnson
Johnson didnt fit the Chiefs, but adding him to Kirk Morrison and Thomas Howard gives up 3 talented OLBs. Huge upgrade over Ricky Brown and Jon Alston

Drafted
QB Jimmy Clausen
Was hoping for Suh or McCoy, but couldnt pass up on this talent. Has the arm and intangibles to be a elite QB.

DT Marvin Austin
Fits the defense perfectly. Will be the NT in our 4-3 and will be apart of a very solid dline. Seymour Kelly Austin Ellis/Scott

RaiderNation
11-04-2009, 05:06 PM
Also Im looking to pick up a solid OT. Greg Ellis,Justin Fargas, Johnnie Lee Higgins and Ricky Brown are can be had in the trade

Cicero
11-04-2009, 05:31 PM
Alright I'm back no need to text me.

Malaka
11-04-2009, 05:32 PM
Looking at that Raiders defense, and that potential talent they have on offense... I just realized if Jeff Garcia was the starter they might have been over .500 at this point in the season...

jayceheathman
11-04-2009, 05:33 PM
Safeties are a hot commodity in this draft. It seems like 10 of them or so have been picked.

Brothgar
11-04-2009, 05:37 PM
Alright Giants take tim Tebow who's with me?

RaiderNation
11-04-2009, 05:37 PM
Looking at that Raiders defense, and that potential talent they have on offense... I just realized if Jeff Garcia was the starter they might have been over .500 at this point in the season...

No doubt. Only huge weakness we have on D is a NT and a SLB. Other than that we are pretty solid. If DMC and Bush can live up to what we think they can be, and we have a game manager at QB there is no reason to why we can be 4-4 right now.

D-Unit
11-04-2009, 05:43 PM
-1 hour from EST.

Scotty will be on, let him pick himself
So the Steelers pick is due now?

RaiderNation
11-04-2009, 05:45 PM
Me and Jbond are probably going to trade... just to let every1 know we agreed to the trade yesterday

RaiderNation
11-04-2009, 06:00 PM
Very happy to get Jason Pierre-Paul. Freak athlete who has impressed me with USF. 6'6 265lbs. Gets to learn from Ellis and Seymour.

DeepThreat
11-04-2009, 06:20 PM
Freak athlete who has impressed me with USF. 6'6 265lbs

Definitely got that Raiders' mindset when it comes to drafting.

RaiderNation
11-04-2009, 06:29 PM
Definitely got that Raiders' mindset when it comes to drafting.

If you have watched his games, he is a football player, not like Dunlap who turns it on maybe every other game. With Seymour and Ellis there to teach him the ropes he will good. He is playing better than Selvie

DeepThreat
11-04-2009, 06:37 PM
Kidding, your explanation was just ironic.

D-Unit
11-04-2009, 07:23 PM
2 great picks in a row in Dan Williams and Jared Odrick.

The Cowboys DL with Jay Ratliff, Marcus Spears, Igor Olshansky, Allen Bailey and Dan Williams is DAYUM impressive.

D-Unit
11-04-2009, 07:55 PM
Anyone with a 3rd rounder want to move up to 71?

DJC
11-04-2009, 08:04 PM
I really hope we go atleast another couple rounds, so many more holes I need to fill

Hines
11-04-2009, 08:12 PM
Very surprised and happy Lang was there in the third with my pick.

T-RICH49
11-04-2009, 08:15 PM
Very surprised and happy Lang was there in the third with my pick.

on behalf of Chiefs fans I'd just like to say YOU....RULE!!!!!!!

scottyboy
11-04-2009, 08:17 PM
<3 fenikz for texting me

DiG
11-04-2009, 08:18 PM
I really hope we go atleast another couple rounds, so many more holes I need to fill

yes please :) 4 rounds would be sexy.

aNYtitan
11-04-2009, 08:22 PM
Pick 67: Tennessee selects Quan Sturdivant, LB, North Carolina.
Really like the pick considering a small scouting report I have read about him. Lots of potential, but has proven he can play well at NC leading the nation in unassisted tackles in 2008. Can either fit in for us on the outside if Bulluck isn't able to be resigned or in the middle as an upgrade.

Can't wait for the next forum mock, one in which there will be an offseason cause its just weird seeing unrestricted free agents being traded for picks, severely altering what would happen in real life.

djp
11-04-2009, 08:26 PM
Sorry guys, got a lot of HW tonight. Will be slow updating. Nice run here though, let me update quick.

DiG
11-04-2009, 08:26 PM
Can't wait for the next forum mock, one in which there will be an offseason cause its just weird seeing unrestricted free agents being traded for picks, severely altering what would happen in real life.

if the nfl goes uncapped than alot of those ufas wont be ufa anymore so it could turn out more realistic than you think.

Hines
11-04-2009, 08:30 PM
I was trying to trade back into the third for Matthews. Waters is still on the block.

Unbiased
11-04-2009, 08:32 PM
Really like the pick considering a small scouting report I have read about him. Lots of potential, but has proven he can play well at NC leading the nation in unassisted tackles in 2008. Can either fit in for us on the outside if Bulluck isn't able to be resigned or in the middle as an upgrade.

Can't wait for the next forum mock, one in which there will be an offseason cause its just weird seeing unrestricted free agents being traded for picks, severely altering what would happen in real life.

Honestly, I approached both picks with a realistic free agency period in mind, even though I knew we weren't supposed to. But even with them (VB, Kearse, and Bulluck) all coming back, they're still old and will be more prone to injury.

Thanks for the feedback.

aNYtitan
11-04-2009, 08:36 PM
Honestly, I approached both picks with a realistic free agency period in mind, even though I knew we weren't supposed to. But even with them (VB, Kearse, and Bulluck) all coming back, they're still old and will be more prone to injury.

Thanks for the feedback.

You did a great job dude, a mix of BPA and need in both selections, helps upgrade a faltering defense that needs some youth and a leader.

Still, I in regards to DirtySouth, if those players are retained if it goes uncapped, I could see many of them playing out their contract, as opposed to just letting them go. But, it is just a mock, not real life, just my opinion on it.

Rosebud
11-04-2009, 08:54 PM
Chicago Bears
In:
Stacey Andrews OG/RT
Eric Steinbach OG/RT
Norm Chow, OC
Peter Giunta, DC

Out:
Peanut Tillman, CB
Danieal Manning, FS
3rd Round Pick
Ron Turner, OC
Bob Babich, DC

We're moving to a more zone blitzing and aggressive defense, so Peanut is no longer as good of a fit and doesn't stand out by much over the young corners already on the team. Danieal Manning will be replaced in the starting lineup by Payne who's a more physical presence and better run defender. Ron Turner had to go, his schemes are bland and boring and his play calling is weak, Norm Chow had his play calling mistakes with the VY Titans, but we think that with Jay Cutler he'll be able to run more of that passing scheme that had done so well for USC.

Also we rebuild and create depth with the additions of two new starters in Steinbach and Andrews. Steinbach's a technician who moves very well and will help Chris Williams in pass blocking while also being able to dominate as a pulling guard. Stacey Andrews is more of a massive mauler who'll open holes for Matt Forte on the right side and can always slide inside if neither Beekman or Garza is able to step up at RG. The bears are on their way to developing a consistent and powerful offense and establishing a strong offensive line is one of the biggest things the offense lacks. With the OL fixed the run game will be better than terrible which will help Cutler use those burners at WR. This team is an explosive runner and big receiver away from being an elite offense.

RaiderNation
11-04-2009, 10:14 PM
Raiders Offseason

Additions
OLB Derrick Johnson
QB Tarvaris Jackson

Gone
QB JaMarcus Russell
WR Javon Walker
FS Michael Huff
WR Johnnie Lee Higgins

Drafted
QB Jimmy Clausen
DT Marvin Austin
DE Jason Pierre-Paul

Overall I like my offseason. Got rid of Javons contract and Jawalrus' fat ass. Picked up franchise QB in Clausen and Jackson is a good QB for a year or 2 before its Clausen's turn. Johnson will be along side Morrison and Howard and will make a sick LB crew. Losing Huff doesnt hurt me much, Tyvon Branch moves to his natural place and Mitchell will step in at SS. Adding Austin lets us not have to start Gerald Warren any more. Seymour Kelly Austin Ellis/JPP is sick. Jason Pierre-Paul is a steal in the late 2nd IMO. All he needs is some coaching and he will be good. Wish I could have added a legit OT, but didnt see the value at any of my picks.

djp
11-04-2009, 10:23 PM
Raiders Offseason

Additions
OLB Derrick Johnson
QB Tarvaris Jackson

Gone
QB JaMarcus Russell
WR Javon Walker
FS Michael Huff
WR Johnnie Lee Higgins

Drafted
QB Jimmy Clausen
DT Marvin Austin
DE Jason Pierre-Paul

Overall I like my offseason. Got rid of Javons contract and Jawalrus' fat ass. Picked up franchise QB in Clausen and Jackson is a good QB for a year or 2 before its Clausen's turn. Johnson will be along side Morrison and Howard and will make a sick LB crew. Losing Huff doesnt hurt me much, Tyvon Branch moves to his natural place and Mitchell will step in at SS. Adding Austin lets us not have to start Gerald Warren any more. Seymour Kelly Austin Ellis/JPP is sick. Jason Pierre-Paul is a steal in the late 2nd IMO. All he needs is some coaching and he will be good. Wish I could have added a legit OT, but didnt see the value at any of my picks.

The Raiders don't have coaching. I like the move for Derrick Johnson, but the guy can't shed a block for his life -- he needs to be in a similar role as Chad Greenway -- something that I think Oakland would do if he went there.

Tarvaris Jackson is not suited for Oakland at all. He needs a legitimate quarterbacks coach to keep him going, his best bet right now is really just being a sponge around Favre and picking up the little things about the game.

I still think TJack can be a legitimate NFL player -- just needs good coaching and time to realize what it takes to play QB in this league.

Great Clausen pick, brings credibility to that position, can make all the throws, from Cali, etc. Would have loved to have seen Golden Tate go to Oakland.

Marvin Austin is good value but he's a UT, and If I'm not mistaken, so is Tommy Kelly (and you have a crapload of $$ put into that guy).

Pierre-Paul is interesting, lots of physical tools. Classic boom/bust type of guy.

I'd give all the moves around a B-. Need to improve that WR position and give Clausen/Jackson a legit #1 at some point, but you only have so many picks in a draft.

RaiderNation
11-04-2009, 10:27 PM
Austin is a NT according to Scott..... I think a healthy Schilens could be our #1 guy. Looked good at the end of last year and pre season. When he was in the game JaMarcus actually looks good. With out him you get like he is now.

A Perfect Score
11-04-2009, 10:30 PM
Derrick Johnson was an awful pickup for the raiders. I told you in IRC before, Derrick Johnson cannot shed a block to save his life, thats always been his critique, it was in college and it is now. You already have a WILL in Thomas Howard who has a ******** of potential, and we have seen that Johnson cant play MIKE or SAM...The trade confused me.

djp
11-04-2009, 10:34 PM
Austin is a NT according to Scott..... I think a healthy Schilens could be our #1 guy. Looked good at the end of last year and pre season. When he was in the game JaMarcus actually looks good. With out him you get like he is now.

Sorry, I don't view him as a 4-3 NT.. I think he's a UT all the way. His game is penetrating gaps and trying to rush the passer/blow up plays. I think people get caught up in the NT stuff because he is short and looks like he is about 305 lbs but I think that he is going to be asked to lose about 10-15 lbs and be a UT in the NFL.. and if he can do that successfully he will be a frickin monster because he is a real horse to block already with great feet and a good burst off the line.

That said, I think Austin should go back to school and learn some other pass rushing moves because he's really just bull rushing right now and now teams are playing him for that.

vikes_28
11-04-2009, 10:35 PM
Vikings off-season:

Gained:
S Renaldo Hill

Lost:
G Anthony Hererra
QB Tavaris Jackson

Drafted:
LB Travis Lewis
QB Colt McCoy

And I also have pick #94 left.

I really like what I have done so far. I think the Hill move was one of the best thus far. Even if Tyrell Johnson hasn't warmed up yet, Madieu Williams is still terrible. And what we need at the safety spot is competence. And that's what Hill has. I also like the Travis Lewis pick. I think he will be a beast in our defensive scheme. I'm not to sure on the Colt McCoy pick though... Realistic? Yes, but even I don't agree with my own pick. He could learn the system and maybe be a good QB in a few years.

What do you guys think?

Hines
11-04-2009, 10:43 PM
Drafted:

Round 1: Russell Okung OT
Round 2: Arrelious Benn WR
Round 2: Kris O'Dowd C
Round 3: Brandon Lang OLB

Traded for:

Michael Huff FS (Raiders)
Limas Sweed WR (Steelers)

Traded:

Derrick Johnson LB
Larry Johnson RB

I improved my two biggest needs and that was interior line on offense and got another tackle. I got two more weapons that Cassell can enjoy throwing to. I also improved my defense with the additions of Huff and Lang. What would everyone grade my offseason as?

djp
11-04-2009, 10:46 PM
Vikings off-season:

Gained:
S Renaldo Hill

Lost:
G Anthony Hererra
QB Tavaris Jackson

Drafted:
LB Travis Lewis
QB Colt McCoy

And I also have pick #94 left.

I really like what I have done so far. I think the Hill move was one of the best thus far. Even if Tyrell Johnson hasn't warmed up yet, Madieu Williams is still terrible. And what we need at the safety spot is competence. And that's what Hill has. I also like the Travis Lewis pick. I think he will be a beast in our defensive scheme. I'm not to sure on the Colt McCoy pick though... Realistic? Yes, but even I don't agree with my own pick. He could learn the system and maybe be a good QB in a few years.

What do you guys think?

You know how I feel about the McCoy pick, it's a risky selection and even though I think McCoy is best suited to be a WCO QB in the NFL, I'm still not sure about him.

Travis Lewis was a GREAT, GREAT pick and will be an absolute force in our scheme. Awesome value, good fit, best player available IMO.

Hill is a solid pickup at safety. Nicely done.

Not a huge fan of trading Jackson, there wasn't much to lose with keeping him considering the flashes that he's shown, but it's not really a huge loss since you got McCoy to develop now.

Who do you plan on putting at guard for Herrera? He was just fine imo...

Drafted:

Round 1: Russell Okung OT
Round 2: Arrelious Benn WR
Round 2: Kris O'Dowd C
Round 3: Brandon Lang OLB

Traded for:

Michael Huff FS (Raiders)
Limas Sweed WR (Steelers)

Traded:

Derrick Johnson LB
Larry Johnson RB

I improved my two biggest needs and that was interior line on offense and got another tackle. I got two more weapons that Cassell can enjoy throwing to. I also improved my defense with the additions of Huff and Lang. What would everyone grade my offseason as?

Really nice, got the best OT, best C, a very nice WR prospect (although I think he is very similar to Bowe, just not as good)... like the pickup of Sweed and it was time for Derrick Johnson to leave town.

Larry Johnson leaving was inevitable.

A- .. great job.

Brothgar
11-04-2009, 10:55 PM
Pats off season

--- Acquired ---
Terrell Owens WR Buf Bills
Brandon "Eye Gouger" Spikes ILB Florida
Corey Wooten (makes me think of Wo_ot)
Anthony Henry S Det
Landen Cohen DL Det
Ryan Mathews, Sex God, Fresno State

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vikes_28
11-04-2009, 11:05 PM
You know how I feel about the McCoy pick, it's a risky selection and even though I think McCoy is best suited to be a WCO QB in the NFL, I'm still not sure about him.

Travis Lewis was a GREAT, GREAT pick and will be an absolute force in our scheme. Awesome value, good fit, best player available IMO.

Hill is a solid pickup at safety. Nicely done.

Not a huge fan of trading Jackson, there wasn't much to lose with keeping him considering the flashes that he's shown, but it's not really a huge loss since you got McCoy to develop now.

Who do you plan on putting at guard for Herrera? He was just fine imo...

Herrera just fine. But that's who Denver wanted for Renaldo Hill. And in my opinion, we have more problems in the secondary than we do on the offensive line. I think I might look at some guards in the third round. McCoy is a realistic pick IMO. I think that the Vikings will jump on him during this years draft. I was trying to be as realistic as possible. And McCoy >>> Tebow. McCoy could flourish in Brad Childress's offense. West Coast is his strong suit, and that's why I think he will be just fine in our offense. My only concern with him is his arm strength. He won't be able to stretch the field with Harvin or Berrian.

vidae
11-04-2009, 11:23 PM
Drafted:

Round 1: Russell Okung OT
Round 2: Arrelious Benn WR
Round 2: Kris O'Dowd C
Round 3: Brandon Lang OLB

Traded for:

Michael Huff FS (Raiders)
Limas Sweed WR (Steelers)

Traded:

Derrick Johnson LB
Larry Johnson RB

I improved my two biggest needs and that was interior line on offense and got another tackle. I got two more weapons that Cassell can enjoy throwing to. I also improved my defense with the additions of Huff and Lang. What would everyone grade my offseason as?

As a Chiefs fan I'd give this an A. You hit every trouble spot for us. Two new starters on the offensive line is sexy and more weapons for Cassel is key. It's too bad that Mount Cody was gone before your pick in the second but you improved the team in our biggest areas of need.

I love the Lang pick. We need someone opposite Hali and I think he'd be good there.

With LJ gone (in this scenario) it looks like Jamal Charles will get the opportunity to start and we'll see how he handles the work load. I'm happiest that you got rid of LJ for something period. Not sure many teams want to touch that dude.

djp
11-04-2009, 11:24 PM
Pick is up for Carolina.

DJC
11-04-2009, 11:24 PM
TEBOOOEeZZ

scottyboy
11-04-2009, 11:25 PM
I had a very boring, yet what I feel is effective draft grabbing 2 players with nice careers from well respected programs that fill needs. I'm happy with it.

Rosebud
11-05-2009, 12:29 AM
I had a very boring, yet what I feel is effective draft grabbing 2 players with nice careers from well respected programs that fill needs. I'm happy with it.

I like both picks, I just hope that we somehow can fix our DT situation this offseason.

scottyboy
11-05-2009, 12:39 AM
I like both picks, I just hope that we somehow can fix our DT situation this offseason.

shhhhh I still have one more pick!

And I'm fine with Robbins-Cofield-Canty-Bernard as a DT unit.

mainly canty and which of the first 2 stays healthy haha

Rosebud
11-05-2009, 12:55 AM
You know I think I certainly could've done better but with the time I had to work with I think I left the bears in a good place, they're not truly contenders, but they're getting there and they aren't contenders now. I think with the new and improved OL both amongst the starting unit and the key back ups that offense will really improve and give Forte and that running game a chance, which will help cutler do what he does best. The Defensive secondary still needs a stud or two, but that front 7 should be able to cause havoc with the depth and new more aggressive scheme.

D-Unit
11-05-2009, 01:06 AM
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princefielder28
11-05-2009, 07:17 AM
text me if we get to my pick

920.655.7932

same for today

Brothgar
11-05-2009, 10:13 AM
Who's done assuming we have a 4th and/or 5th round? I think I'm going to start doing draft grades.

djp
11-05-2009, 11:50 AM
Who's done assuming we have a 4th and/or 5th round? I think I'm going to start doing draft grades.

Depending on how this round finishes once the clock starts, I will decide on whether we will have a 4th round. There will be no 5th round.

Brothgar
11-05-2009, 11:53 AM
Depending on how this round finishes once the clock starts, I will decide on whether we will have a 4th round. There will be no 5th round.

OK who doesn't have a 4th or 5th round pick? I will do their draft grades first.

A Perfect Score
11-05-2009, 12:06 PM
OK who doesn't have a 4th or 5th round pick? I will do their draft grades first.

I dont have either!

Unbiased
11-05-2009, 12:20 PM
If Nekos doesn't show up, the Jags could use a 3-4 DE, SS, and a RG.

Unbiased
11-05-2009, 12:23 PM
Looking at what's available, I would go with Shawn Lauvao or Mike Neal.

fischbowl
11-05-2009, 12:57 PM
Pick will be in one minute

Hines
11-05-2009, 02:11 PM
I for one would like 4 rounds. Also, I don't think Royster is in this.

DiG
11-05-2009, 02:12 PM
I for one would like 4 rounds. Also, I don't think Royster is in this.

ah crap your right hes not on the underclass list. ill pick again.

DeepThreat
11-05-2009, 02:52 PM
Unless we go four rounds, I'm done.

Additions:

Todd Heap
Jermaine Gresham
Darrell Stuckey
Brandon Ghee
6th rounder
Swapped 3rd round picks
5th round pick

Gave up:

Chris Henry
Anthony Collins

D-Unit
11-05-2009, 02:56 PM
Unless we go four rounds, I'm done.

Additions:

Todd Heap
Jermaine Gresham
Darrell Stuckey
Brandon Ghee
6th rounder
Swapped 3rd round picks
5th round pick

Gave up:

Chris Henry
Anthony Collins
Which UFL team are you a GM of?

DeepThreat
11-05-2009, 02:58 PM
The Bengals. :p

Cicero
11-05-2009, 03:01 PM
About time someone took Ghee. Nice pick DT.

D-Unit
11-05-2009, 03:02 PM
About time someone took Ghee. Nice pick DT.
What's so good about him? He seems like a JAG. Just Another Guy.

D-Unit
11-05-2009, 03:03 PM
The Bengals. :p
Hahaha. Glad you rolled with it. I respect that bro. This is the fun zone! :p

DiG
11-05-2009, 03:18 PM
What's so good about him? He seems like a JAG. Just Another Guy.

i think you mean JAP. Just Another Playmaker.

Scotty D
11-05-2009, 03:24 PM
Alright I finshed my draft, here are my moves

Acquired
Trade
Shawne Merriman, DE
Carlos Rogers, CB
Dawan Landry, SS
Marcus Stroud, DT
Antwann Randle El, WR
Draft
#49 - Selvish Capers, OT - WVU
#60 - Mardy Gilyard, WR - Cincinnati
#81 - Mike Johnson, OG - Alabama

Lost
Ernie Sims, WLB
Cliff Avril, DE
Landon Cohen, DT
Anthony Henry, DB
Manuel Ramirez, OG
#38

I was very active in the trade market. I started out at #6 overall and worked out a trade down with San Diego for Merriman. I then worked out another trade with Baltimore that took me out of the first round pick, but I still had three picks in the first 90. I knew the draft was deep and I knew I would still get good players. I didn't mean to draft three offensive players but I went with a mix of BPA and need. End product was a big thing I was working for, and overall talent acquisition was what else I was going for. Since I didn't have to pay the salary of the #6 overall pick that money could go towards extensions for Merriman and Rogers.

D-Unit
11-05-2009, 04:21 PM
i think you mean JAP. Just Another Playmaker.
hahahahhaah. No I meant JAG. Just Another Gheek. :D

D-Unit
11-05-2009, 04:35 PM
Alright I finshed my draft, here are my moves

Acquired
Trade
Shawne Merriman, DE
Carlos Rogers, CB
Dawan Landry, SS
Marcus Stroud, DT
Antwann Randle El, WR
Draft
#49 - Selvish Capers, OT - WVU
#60 - Mardy Gilyard, WR - Cincinnati
#81 - Mike Johnson, OG - Alabama

Lost
Ernie Sims, WLB
Cliff Avril, DE
Landon Cohen, DT
Anthony Henry, DB
Manuel Ramirez, OG
#38

I was very active in the trade market. I started out at #6 overall and worked out a trade down with San Diego for Merriman. I then worked out another trade with Baltimore that took me out of the first round pick, but I still had three picks in the first 90. I knew the draft was deep and I knew I would still get good players. I didn't mean to draft three offensive players but I went with a mix of BPA and need. End product was a big thing I was working for, and overall talent acquisition was what else I was going for. Since I didn't have to pay the salary of the #6 overall pick that money could go towards extensions for Merriman and Rogers.
Too big of a risk to give up for Merriman. Carlos Rogers stinks. Landry, Stroud, Randle E... Good stop gap players. Will take you neither here nor there.

Capers - Not physical enough for my tastes. Too finesse.
Gilyard - Good pick up to play opposite of Calvin.
Johnson - Good pick up to fill the interior OL.

I see an improved team, but only good enough to get you picking outside of the Top 8-10. A lot of unnecessary trades. I would've liked the Lions to add more young stars and playmakers through the draft.

Cicero
11-05-2009, 04:46 PM
What's so good about him? He seems like a JAG. Just Another Guy.

Every Wake game I've watched he's impressed me with his coverage and instincts, and the measurable are definitely there as well. My #4 corner behind Haden, Cox, and Warren. He's a top 50 player.

Shane P. Hallam
11-05-2009, 04:57 PM
Every Wake game I've watched he's impressed me with his coverage and instincts, and the measurable are definitely there as well. My #4 corner behind Haden, Cox, and Warren. He's a top 50 player.

I agree that he has been impressive. Against Miami, he got beat up a little bit though and didn't look quite as fluid as he needed too, so he isn't quite my #4 corner or anything, but I have been very impressed with Ghee as a straight cover corner in this draft. I agree that he was a steal this late.

D-Unit
11-05-2009, 05:05 PM
How much higher do you think he'll be picked in real life?

wonderbredd24
11-05-2009, 05:44 PM
Unless we go to the 4th round, the Browns are done

4. Jake Locker, QB Washington
33. Jonathan Dwyer, RB Georgia Tech
36. Eric Norwood, OLB South Carolina
50. Mike Iupati, G Idaho
68. Anthony McCoy, TE USC
83. Kyle Calloway, OT Iowa

djp
11-05-2009, 05:45 PM
Just texted PF, he should be giving me his pick soon, I hope.

princefielder28
11-05-2009, 05:50 PM
Just texted PF, he should be giving me his pick soon, I hope.

i'm here, let me see who i want

D-Unit
11-05-2009, 05:51 PM
Unless we go to the 4th round, the Browns are done

4. Jake Locker, QB Washington
33. Jonathan Dwyer, RB Georgia Tech
36. Eric Norwood, OLB South Carolina
50. Mike Iupati, G Idaho
68. Anthony McCoy, TE USC
83. Kyle Calloway, OT Iowa
That turned out to be a HEEEELLUVA draft! Congrats. A++++++.

Still confused why you wanted to trade Locker as soon as you drafted him, but nice job.

Shane P. Hallam
11-05-2009, 05:53 PM
How much higher do you think he'll be picked in real life?

We are a long way from the draft, but he could be a 2nd round pick. Good speed, good size, and his coverage ability has shown up on tape. Definitely a guy who could move up or stay underrated in the draft communities eyes, but I can see a team taking him a half round to a whole round earlier.

wonderbredd24
11-05-2009, 05:54 PM
That turned out to be a HEEEELLUVA draft! Congrats. A++++++.

Still confused why you wanted to trade Locker as soon as you drafted him, but nice job.

I didn't "want" to trade Locker... I was just willing to listen to offers for him in case anyone was really desperate to get him.

Instead, I moved Quinn for a great value for both sides

D-Unit
11-05-2009, 06:02 PM
I didn't "want" to trade Locker... I was just willing to listen to offers for him in case anyone was really desperate to get him.

Instead, I moved Quinn for a great value for both sides
Detroit should've followed your approach instead of trading for has beens. That's the right way to rebuild. I'm fine with sprinkling in vets, but I would never agree to trading the 6th overall pick for Merriman who is surrounded with concerns.

Todd Bertuzzi
11-05-2009, 06:26 PM
Pick will be up in a minute.

fischbowl
11-05-2009, 07:10 PM
1) Anthony Davis
2) Brian Price
3) Tony Pike

Also acquired Ernie Sims and Manny Ramirez by trade

Also, remember Hunter Cantwell as a prospect? Lolz

Shane P. Hallam
11-05-2009, 07:13 PM
I wonder if I can get up tonight. If not, I'm sure all three of my picks will hit tomorrow while teaching :(

A Perfect Score
11-05-2009, 07:15 PM
I wonder if I can get up tonight. If not, I'm sure all three of my picks will hit tomorrow while teaching :(

Trouble in the bedroom?

D-Unit
11-05-2009, 07:18 PM
1) Anthony Davis
2) Brian Price
3) Tony Pike

Also acquired Ernie Sims and Manny Ramirez by trade

Also, remember Hunter Cantwell as a prospect? Lolz
Fabulous. I really like what you did in the draft and by trade. Fabulous, just Fabulosho! :p

Todd Bertuzzi
11-05-2009, 07:33 PM
21.Sean Weatherspoon, OLB, Missou
Value was way too good to pass up here. Also fills a need as Witherspoon isn't young and Gocong is set to become a free agent.

53. Jason Fox, OT, Miami
Eagles don't really have any big needs, but with Shawn Andrews health a big question mark I went with the top OT on the board in Fox. He's had a great year so far in Miami and is a good fit in Philly.

74. Noel Devine, RB, WVU
With the Eagles declining the option on Westbrook's contract it appears his days as an Eagle are limited. Westbrook has been plagued by injuries and at 31 he isn't getting any younger. The Eagles bring in Devine who will play a role similar to Darren Sproles of the Chargers. Devine will take some carries off of Shady's hands and will also return kicks/punts. Just another explosive weapon on the Eagles offense.

85. Lindsey Witten, DE, UConn
Juqua Parker is 32 and Victor Abiamiri can't seem to stay healthy so I opted for the best DE on the board. Witten has proved he can get to the quarterback and will look great lined up opposite Trent Cole.

Stacy Andrews, RG
5th round pick
for
Charles Tillman, CB
Contracts are equal, but with Ellis Hobbs due to become a free agent I brought in Tillman as a replacement. Andrews was 2nd on the depth chart behind MJG.

CJSchneider
11-05-2009, 07:36 PM
I wonder if I can get up tonight. If not, I'm sure all three of my picks will hit tomorrow while teaching :(

Last summer I actually wrote a curriculum for teaching sports statistics and sports journalism using the Louisiana Benchmarks and GLE's. I wait for the day that I have an open minded principal I can pitch that to. It would eliminate conundrums such as yours.

Shane P. Hallam
11-05-2009, 07:50 PM
Last summer I actually wrote a curriculum for teaching sports statistics and sports journalism using the Louisiana Benchmarks and GLE's. I wait for the day that I have an open minded principal I can pitch that to. It would eliminate conundrums such as yours.

That would be awesome. You'll have to send it over to me to see some time, haha.

princefielder28
11-05-2009, 07:59 PM
This has been my mock.....

PICKS
#20 :: Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland
#31 :: Jahvid Best, RB, California
#52 :: Morgan Burnett, S, Georgia Tech
#63 :: Jared Odrick, DL, Penn State
#84 :: O'Brien Schofield, DE/OLB, Wisconsin

TRADES
Packers receive:
1st round pick (#31)
2nd round pick (#63)
LB Marvin Mitchell

Saints receive:
DE/OLB Aaron Kampman
LB AJ Hawk

Think what you want about trade with New Orleans but neither AJ Hawk nor Aaron Kampman is a good fit in the new 3-4 defense. Kampman has voiced his displeasure with the switch. Hawk has never lived up to the hype out of Ohio State and certainly has not lived up to the 5th overall pick.

CJSchneider
11-05-2009, 08:00 PM
I think I still have it on my computer at school. I'll send it to you if I can find it tomorrow.

Brothgar
11-05-2009, 08:06 PM
I made a thread to post draft grades. I'm half thinking of a you grade mine I'll grade yours next policy. In other words those who grade my draft get moved to the front of the list. :D

fenikz
11-05-2009, 08:09 PM
time to pick for the Falcons

DeepThreat
11-05-2009, 08:14 PM
Don't overestimate Chris Henry.

redbills
11-05-2009, 08:50 PM
1) Anthony Davis
2) Brian Price
3) Tony Pike

Also acquired Ernie Sims and Manny Ramirez by trade

Also, remember Hunter Cantwell as a prospect? Lolz

Love how you got Sims : )

But that is a really good draft.

Shane P. Hallam
11-05-2009, 08:55 PM
Sent a BB to djp, though if it is after 1:30 PM EST, I will make the pick(s) myself.

Brothgar
11-05-2009, 10:15 PM
1) Anthony Davis
2) Brian Price
3) Tony Pike

Also acquired Ernie Sims and Manny Ramirez by trade

Also, remember Hunter Cantwell as a prospect? Lolz

WHAT!!! You didn't trade for Dusty?!?!?!

fenikz
11-05-2009, 11:35 PM
And I am done

Additions:
Vernon Gholston OLB
Carlos Dunlap DE
Rodney Hudson OG
Trevard Lindley CB

Subtractions:
None

if anyone feels like grading my draft i'll do the same in return

fischbowl
11-06-2009, 01:55 AM
WHAT!!! You didn't trade for Dusty?!?!?!

I know crazy. This may be the first forum mock where I didn't do that

D-Unit
11-06-2009, 02:56 AM
And I am done

Additions:
Vernon Gholston OLB
Carlos Dunlap DE
Rodney Hudson OG
Trevard Lindley CB

Subtractions:
None

if anyone feels like grading my draft i'll do the same in return
I was already a big fan of the Zona defense, but now they can really be as aggressive as they want. If they keep Dockett, that front 7 has ferocious potential. With the addition of Lindley to the secondary, I think that core could produce a high amount of turnovers with Lindley, DRC, Rolle and Wilson. Huge Hudson fan. The Seminoles have finally built up a respectable OL and Hudson was the headliner of their OL unit. Not sure what you could've done better. Might've been interesting to see what the team would've looked like without the Gholston trade. ... but I like Gholston better than many of the OLBs in this draft class. Not all, but many. Best team in the Division... by far.

fenikz
11-06-2009, 03:19 AM
I was already a big fan of the Zona defense, but now they can really be as aggressive as they want. If they keep Dockett, that front 7 has ferocious potential. With the addition of Lindley to the secondary, I think that core could produce a high amount of turnovers with Lindley, DRC, Rolle and Wilson. Huge Hudson fan. The Seminoles have finally built up a respectable OL and Hudson was the headliner of their OL unit. Not sure what you could've done better. Might've been interesting to see what the team would've looked like without the Gholston trade. ... but I like Gholston better than many of the OLBs in this draft class. Not all, but many. Best team in the Division... by far.

Gracias, was kind of iffy about the Gholston trade after I did it but I think it worked out, didn't expect Everson Griffin to fall all the way to the end of the 1st and he would of been a nice grab but I don't think he is better than Gholston & Dunlap. I wanted your new fav small school prospect AO-A but Bos took him right ahead of me, which might of been a favor since Lindley was probably better value there anyways and a safer pick.

As for your draft, love the picks, you got great value for both of them and I think they both fit the system perfectly. Love your trade for James and Choice, don't know much about Herrera but OG was def a need. As for getting rid of Bailey I know he is declining but he is still a good corner prob could of got more out of the deal, though in this draft a 4th is prob as good as a late 2nd because of the depth, shame we only went 3 rounds.

wonderbredd24
11-06-2009, 06:55 AM
Staubach, Rico McCoy is a good player, but I really question his fit in the 3-4.

He weighs all of 220lbs?

Unbiased
11-06-2009, 09:04 AM
Has a 4th round been announced or do we still not know?

Shane P. Hallam
11-06-2009, 11:22 AM
If there is a 4th, I won't be in it.

D-Unit
11-06-2009, 12:04 PM
If there is a 4th, I won't be in it.
THE END .

Shane P. Hallam
11-06-2009, 12:49 PM
THE END .

Haha, you guys can gladly do it though. When does the clock start? Can I make my next two picks yet?

LTgiants
11-06-2009, 02:19 PM
Here are my moves

Added

Cliff Avril
Anthony Collins
Taylor Mays
Tyson Alualu
Jeremy Willaims

Lost
Shawne Merriman

Scotty D
11-06-2009, 02:52 PM
Too big of a risk to give up for Merriman. Carlos Rogers stinks. Landry, Stroud, Randle E... Good stop gap players. Will take you neither here nor there.

Capers - Not physical enough for my tastes. Too finesse.
Gilyard - Good pick up to play opposite of Calvin.
Johnson - Good pick up to fill the interior OL.

I see an improved team, but only good enough to get you picking outside of the Top 8-10. A lot of unnecessary trades. I would've liked the Lions to add more young stars and playmakers through the draft.

To big of a risk with Merriman? Is that why you PM'ed me trying to trade for him after I acquired him.