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Matthew Jones
10-29-2009, 12:26 AM
This season has been one of surprisingly terrible quarterback play. Of the quarterbacks who could be on the free agent/trade market after this season, which would you sign from the perspective of a quarterback-needy team, and why?

Derek Anderson, Cleveland Browns

Arguably no starting quarterback in the NFL has played worse to this point - and JaMarcus Russell starts in the league. Anderson did turn in one pretty good season a couple years ago.

Marc Bulger, St. Louis Rams

Has floundered in St. Louis over the past few years due to his thin frame and propensity for getting sacked repeatedly. Once upon a time, with a supporting cast, was a pretty good quarterback.

Jason Campbell, Washington Redskins

Has not been nearly what the Redskins hoped with a first round pick. Doesn't make enough plays, and seems to hold on to the ball a little too long. Not a turnover machine, though.

Kerry Collins, Tennessee Titans

Arguably the low point of his career was last game, when he threw for -7 yards and an interception, losing 59-0. He's old, but only a year removed from a Pro Bowl appearance.

Jake Delhomme, Carolina Panthers

Is throwing up interceptions like nobody's business and many of his turnovers have led to points for the opposing defense. Used to be considered one of the top quarterbacks in the league.

Chad Pennington, Miami Dolphins

Chad Henne has played pretty well in Pennington's absence, and a release is likely as Pennington has suffered numerous shoulder injuries. Was actually an MVP candidate last year.

Brady Quinn, Cleveland Browns

Is still pretty young, but what we've seen so far hasn't been promising. Quinn hasn't looked accurate and stares at the pass rush way too much. He's not even starting over Anderson.

JaMarcus Russell, Oakland Raiders

It's easy to point the blame on the Raiders' terribly run organization, but you can't help but wonder if some of the problems are because of his laziness. Still young and with a cannon arm.

Michael Vick, Philadelphia Eagles

Hasn't really gotten a chance this year to make any sort of impact whatsoever, but was previously an impact player in the league. Could potentially return to form eventually.

Vince Young, Tennessee Titans

Will most likely get to start at least half the season, but what we've seen so far from him doesn't make him likely to rebound. Could potentially still be good in an offense tailored to him.

Shiver
10-29-2009, 12:29 AM
I think, of this group, Jason Campbell has shown me the most. I would like to see him get a chance in the future in a better environment. Let him go to a winning team, sit and learn for a bit, then take over.

A Perfect Score
10-29-2009, 12:31 AM
If Im a very decent team looking for a journeyman QB, I look no further then Chad Pennington.

General Zod
10-29-2009, 12:32 AM
Probally Campbell. But Im not giving up on Quinn yet. He has no one to throw the ball to in Clevland. So he is getting a pass from me.

diabsoule
10-29-2009, 12:34 AM
If I had to choose out of that bunch I would go with Jason Campbell first and Brady Quinn second.

Matthew Jones
10-29-2009, 01:08 AM
I think of the guys on there, the problem is that none of the guys who actually have some potential as a playmaker make plays. It seems like Anderson, Russell, Vick, and Young could all be good players with a little time and effort, but I have questions as to whether any of them are smart enough or dedicated enough to become good players. The others are caretaker quarterbacks who really won't do much in a game in my opinion. Even Campbell is a 200 yard, 1 TD a game guy. I think maybe Vince Young would be a good player if he was given a real chance. A team would have to be willing to let him do what he does well, and spend a lot of time going over his mechanics and decision making. Aside from his TD-INT ratio in 2007, he was actually pretty good, raising his completion percentage over 10% from the last year and substantially improving his YPA as well.

Bengalsrocket
10-29-2009, 02:08 AM
Pennington is the best of them, with the least amount of "potential". If I was one of the teams looking to prove dedication to their fan base, he's the first guy I would go to.

Crickett
10-29-2009, 02:19 AM
I went with Pennington. He may have a noodle arm, and if one of the worst late game QB's in the league, but he is the best of the options listed there IMO.

MetSox17
10-29-2009, 03:31 AM
Man you all give Jason Campbell too much credit. He is atrocious. I'd take JaMarcus Russell, Brady Quinn hell, even Vince Young before i took Campbell. He has been in the league for five years already and he is still a scrub. Give it up with him already. He already has eight fumbles this year, to go with his 6 interceptions. At least Russell has ridiculous talent that sometimes makes up for his lack of everything else. But Campbell is neither talented, or blessed in any other trait for an NFL Qb. He just, sucks.

Shane P. Hallam
10-29-2009, 04:28 AM
I chose Pennington as well. He can manage a game still, and if it wasn't for injury, he'd still be the starter in Miami.

Caddy
10-29-2009, 04:34 AM
I'll have me some Chad Pennington. He mightn't be able to throw the ball incredibly far, but if given a solid running game and a good defense, he is capable of managing a team.

SeanTaylorRIP
10-29-2009, 06:51 AM
It's funny because I hate him but from this list I'd still take Campbell because he can still be a very solid player in a more suitable situation. That's just kind of by default though because these other QB's are so horrid.

gsorace
10-29-2009, 09:38 AM
Jeff Garcia

Sniper
10-29-2009, 09:44 AM
The Eagles have a team option with Vick for a second year.

For the poll, Campbell. I remain convinced that he'd be decent with a good OL and a consistent offensive staff around him.

Jvig43
10-29-2009, 09:51 AM
The Eagles have a team option with Vick for a second year.

For the poll, Campbell. I remain convinced that he'd be decent with a good OL and a consistent offensive staff around him.

But would they want to keep him another year, he isnt doing much and when they do use him its normally a quick drop off pass or a run to the outside for negative yards. Mcnabb is the better choice.

Sniper
10-29-2009, 10:01 AM
But would they want to keep him another year, he isnt doing much and when they do use him its normally a quick drop off pass or a run to the outside for negative yards. Mcnabb is the better choice.

It's highly doubtful he's got the entire playbook down so far. He's a big cap hit next year, but the Eagles always have $20 million saved for a rainy day. Who knows what will happen?

killxswitch
10-29-2009, 10:29 AM
I picked Campbell. I think he could be good if given a chance on a real team with some consistency. I don't think it's guaranteed that Pennington is "on the outs" but I do think he's the best QB right now of all the ones in the poll.

DeathbyStat
10-29-2009, 10:32 AM
I wouldn't really want any of them but if i had to pick I would pick Campbell

tjsunstein
10-29-2009, 10:50 AM
Depends what team I am but if I'm looking for a quarterback to manage my team for one year, maybe two, I go Pennington without a doubt. If I'm looking to the build for the future my order would go something like Quinn, Campbell, then Young. I still believe these kids have something in them and would thrive in a different situation.

Splat
10-29-2009, 10:54 AM
If I had a great OL I would go Pennington if not some one else.

Matthew Jones
10-29-2009, 11:47 AM
The Eagles have a team option with Vick for a second year.

For the poll, Campbell. I remain convinced that he'd be decent with a good OL and a consistent offensive staff around him.

I based the top part around the idea that they won't pay his, what, $5.2 million cap number? He comes in for a special package where he either hands the ball off, runs for two yards, or flicks a shovel pass to a running back. Any quarterback in the league can run that offense. Hell, any running back in the league can do that.

FlyingElvis
10-29-2009, 12:07 PM
It definitely depends on the situation. A team like the pre-Favre Vikings looking for a steward to "manage the game" and win now would have to take Chad. If you want to win you take Chad. Which is why I voted for him.

A team like Carolina could take Campbell, let him hand off a bunch each game, throw off play action and likely have a relatively successful QB. WCO doesn't seem like it is the right offense for him but that may be unfair since Campbell has had a few different systems.

VY's massive bust potential should have been obvious. Hell, the guy's college coach said something along the lines of 'we didn't try to fix his terrible mechanics' b/c the guy was a winner. Yeah, that translates well to the NFL. :rolleyes:

Quinn looked like he had potential last year. This year the Mangina came to town and has already worked his magic, resulting in the entire organization taking a giant step backwards. I'd still take a chance on him but, like VY, there's a whole lot of work to do yet.

D-Unit
10-29-2009, 12:13 PM
What about Kyle Orton? I have a feeling he's doing his best "Derek Anderson" impression... the way DA started out in Cleveland. ...and how he's really not as good as his winning record. I think it's gonna eventually catch up to him.

JFLO
10-29-2009, 12:13 PM
I'm taking Brady Quinn...he is still relatively young and I think has the time to be at least a good game manager in the NFL. He was drafted into a bad situation and it only got worse for him as time went on.

GB12
10-29-2009, 02:02 PM
Pennington. I wouldn't even touch any of the others. I think the draft is a better option than all of them including Pennington.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
10-29-2009, 02:18 PM
Pennington, then Bulger. Get Bulger on a good team, and I think he'd be good again. He's more than a game manager but the Rams have absolutely blown lately.

Dirk360
10-29-2009, 03:43 PM
pennington is the best but what are you peoples thoughts on matt cassel? is he any good in that kc offense?

AJHawk50
10-29-2009, 03:44 PM
I'm taking Brady Quinn...he is still relatively young and I think has the time to be at least a good game manager in the NFL. He was drafted into a bad situation and it only got worse for him as time went on.
I would agree with this.

Brent
10-29-2009, 03:59 PM
I'm taking Brady Quinn...he is still relatively young and I think has the time to be at least a good game manager in the NFL. He was drafted into a bad situation and it only got worse for him as time went on.
I voted Quinn for these reasons.

Also, I would still bring in Jeff Garcia, if I am running a WCO.

BlindSite
10-29-2009, 05:08 PM
If I'm running a Wco I'm bring in Garcia since he's still going to be at least somewhat effective.

If I need a guy to play today and I can build around Campbell for sure.

If I want youth and a journeyman I'm either drafting and picking up Pennington or getting Pennington and Quinn.

LonghornsLegend
10-29-2009, 07:06 PM
Man you all give Jason Campbell too much credit. He is atrocious.

I agree, I'm surprised people are still picking him, why does he get so much credit yet everyone else on this list is getting bashed to no end? His footwork is terrible, he makes terrible reads(missing wide open deep routes all game to be captain checkdown), he's afraid to take any shots past 5 yards downfield, he hardly ever sets his feet before he throws, he's careless with the football, the list goes on and on.


Obviously everyone on this list is pretty bad, but why would you take a QB who basically does the same things as Jamarcus Russell yet has nowhere near the amount of potential to boot? I know the Redskins suck, but he looks like he has no business starting, ever, for anyone in this league. I'd love to have him as a back-up on a solid team, but I'd still give guys like Vick, JR, Quinn, maybe even Pennington another chance to start again at least.


Nothing about Campbell is above average, if you have been in the league this long and still can't read a defense or set your feet before you throw you have no business playing QB. Yet for some reason everyone can bash VY for those things, but Campbell has been that way for as long as I can remember.

RaiderNation
10-29-2009, 09:52 PM
Tarvaris Jackson?

BlindSite
10-29-2009, 10:23 PM
Tarvaris Jackson?

I can see him requesting a trade if he's not a FA at the end of the season, I like his upside somewhere in the WCO. I'd imagine if Chucky went somewhere he'd be likely to look for him, he has a boner for mobile QBs with Wco experience.

Iamcanadian
10-29-2009, 11:38 PM
I cannot believe anybody chose Brady Quinn. He is a total flop. His 2 HC's and his 2 OC's both turned thumbs down on him and 20 GM's and scouting departments passed on his talent and mental makeup.
Pennington doesn't even belong on this list, he is a very solid starter when healthy.
As for Campbell, Zorn is a flop as an OC and as a HC and Campbell hasn't improved under him. However he was a solid game manager under Joe Gibbs who reached the playoffs twice with him.

Flyboy
10-30-2009, 02:11 AM
Can I go with Matt Leinart?

RaiderNation
10-30-2009, 12:56 PM
Who ever voted for Russell needs to GTFO

skinzzfan25
10-30-2009, 01:39 PM
Quinn than Campbell/Pennington.

Lack of leadership by Campbell knocks him down for me. He can make the throws but you can never tell where his heart is.

SeanTaylorRIP
10-30-2009, 02:13 PM
I cannot believe anybody chose Brady Quinn. He is a total flop. His 2 HC's and his 2 OC's both turned thumbs down on him and 20 GM's and scouting departments passed on his talent and mental makeup.
Pennington doesn't even belong on this list, he is a very solid starter when healthy.
As for Campbell, Zorn is a flop as an OC and as a HC and Campbell hasn't improved under him. However he was a solid game manager under Joe Gibbs who reached the playoffs twice with him.

Correction the first year Joe Gibbs led us to the playoffs Campbell never played a down, Mark Brunell was our QB. 2nd time we made the playoffs Campbell had a season ending injury. When he got hurt we were 2 games under .500, after that Todd Collins led us to 4 straight wins and to the playoffs with a 9-7 record. We were 5-7 when Jason got hurt.

I do agree though that he was much more effective and hit the ground less when Gibbs was here but we had different personnel and coaching.

CC.SD
10-30-2009, 03:14 PM
Quinn has only played in like 6 games, I have no idea how he has been written off so substantially so quickly. Even Ryan Leaf got more than a season, and that was RYAN LEAF. So don't bring up 'ooh he plays scared, and checks down.' He needs to see the field to develop.

drowe
10-30-2009, 03:36 PM
Campbell and Quinn are young guys that just never had a chance due to poor supporting cast and no continuity with coaches. in the right situation, they could play like first round picks.

SuperKevin
10-30-2009, 03:41 PM
I'm having serious doubts that Pennington plays another down in the NFL. Too many shoulder injuries. With that said I'm going Brady Quinn. He hasn't exactly had the best opportunity to prove himself

LizardState
10-31-2009, 09:27 AM
Pennington is the most serviceable now, I voted Bulger out of pure nostalgia b/c I remembered his glory days with Bruce & Holt running the most beautiful patterns in FB.

It's a goddamned shame what the Rams orgn. has allowed them to degenerate into today, & now the ownership wants to sell out. Poetic justice that there are no takers & they're stuck with these Sheep who get taken to the slaughter every Sunday. If you're a college sr. defensive player & drafted by them, would you get on the phone to your agent & pull a John Elway/Eli Manning, demand a trade before reporting? I think so. This has to be the most demoralized locker room in the League.

Bucs_Rule
10-31-2009, 03:06 PM
Quinn. The guy has had too few starts to know anything conclusive about him.

Nalej
10-31-2009, 03:34 PM
Quinn and Campbell.

FUNBUNCHER
10-31-2009, 05:05 PM
Campbell has a big arm and height, great demeanor, (ideal for a backup QB), but very little else.
He has NO touch on his deep balls, has difficulty anticipating routes opening up, and is afraid of putting the ball where his WRs have a chance to make a play.
He's too tentative as a #1 QB and leaves too many big yardage plays on the field in favor of safer underneath routes. After 5 years it still hasn't come together for him.
I think he'd be the ideal backup because he won't ever really lose a game for you, and if a team has a good running game and the play action is working, JC can make a few plays.
He's a harder worker and more diligent than VY or Russell, but he lacks their overall talent.

Rosebud
10-31-2009, 07:38 PM
Vick, Pennington, Quinn and and Jamarcus Russel are all better QBs than Jason Campbell, JC can't read a D, has no pocket presence or accuracy and redefines the term captain checkdown. The only way he could be worse is if he threw up picks like Jake Delhomme.