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bored of education
03-10-2007, 08:34 PM
1996:
Keyshawn Johnson
Terry Glenn
Eddie Kennison
Marvin Harrison
Eric Moulds
Amani Toomer
Mushin Muhhamed
Bobby Engram
Terrel Owens
Joe Horn


2001:(funny thing is Moss was 4th taken first three SUCKED)
Santana Moss
Reggie Wayne
Chad Johnson
Chris Chambers
Steve Smith
T.J. Houshmandzadeh



Might be obvious, but damn those two classes

RaiderNation
03-10-2007, 08:39 PM
i like the 01 better

yourfavestoner
03-10-2007, 08:44 PM
96 and it isn't even close.

Dolfan2788
03-10-2007, 08:45 PM
01 has more higher quality gamebreakers but overall it's 96. They have a lot more pro-bowl guys that always play at a high level.

neko4
03-10-2007, 08:48 PM
O1 had better quality and 96 quanity

TCU
03-10-2007, 08:50 PM
O1 had better quality and 96 quanity

QFT. thats how i would put it.

bored of education
03-10-2007, 08:52 PM
Well I only posted those who have produced, alot of third tier WR's in 01.

TNewFan41
03-10-2007, 09:05 PM
01 has more higher quality gamebreakers but overall it's 96. They have a lot more pro-bowl guys that always play at a high level.

pro-bowl means nothing, but it is '96 by far.

BuffaloDraftGeek
03-10-2007, 09:12 PM
96 no question.

fenikz
03-10-2007, 09:17 PM
they are both ridiculous classes

yourfavestoner
03-10-2007, 09:47 PM
THe 04 class is turning out nicely, as well.

JeffSamardzijaIRISH
03-10-2007, 09:49 PM
The '96 class is much more consistent. They'll consistently get 100 yards on you each game, while the '01 class would break 180 yards one week, then the next go for only 30.

duckseason
03-10-2007, 09:52 PM
The '96 class is much more consistent. They'll consistently get 100 yards on you each game, while the '01 class would break 180 yards one week, then the next go for only 30.
There really isn't a guy on the whole list that does that. It's just the nature of the position.

49ersfan_87
03-10-2007, 10:09 PM
THe 04 class is turning out nicely, as well.


And rashaun woods was supposed to be the most polished of them all.. :(

Draft King
03-10-2007, 10:12 PM
Easily '96, Owens and Harrison have both put up HOF stats.

princefielder28
03-10-2007, 10:28 PM
01 has some pretty big names, but 96 is collectively solid

Caddy
03-10-2007, 10:30 PM
O1 had better quality and 96 quanity

Sounds spot on

Shiver
03-10-2007, 10:34 PM
How pray tell does '01 have better quality? Right now I don't think any of the '01 Receivers are slated to be Hall of Fame-rs. Where as Harrison is, Owens on numbers alone is. The '01 class also has several busts that are unmentioned. Four of the six first round WRs turned out to be busts in '01. The worst '96 produced was Eddie Kennison, who has still be a solid starter most of the time.

Chucky
03-10-2007, 10:43 PM
How pray tell does '01 have better quality? Right now I don't think any of the '01 Receivers are slated to be Hall of Fame-rs. Where as Harrison is, Owens on numbers alone is. The '01 class also has several busts that are unmentioned. Four of the six first round WRs turned out to be busts in '01. The worst '96 produced was Eddie Kennison, who has still be a solid starter most of the time.

true dat.........

The Dynasty
03-10-2007, 10:53 PM
I'd have to go with '96 but the biggest steal was Houshmanzadeh in the 7th round of that draft in 01

MaxV
03-10-2007, 10:55 PM
'96 class both in terms of quality and quantity.

Acctually the '01 class turned out several busts as well as later round steals.

Check out the first 10 WRs taken in 2001 class (1-6 in the 1st round):

1. David Terrell - bust
2. Koren Robinson - bust
3. Rod Gardner - bust
4. Santana Moss - pretty good
5. Freddie Mitchell - bust
6. Reggie Wayne - very good
7. Quincy Morgan - bust
8. Chad Johnson - great
9. Robert Ferguson - decent
10. Chris Chambers - pretty good

All of these guys were taken in the first 2 rounds, and 5 of them are busts.

PackerLegend
03-10-2007, 11:08 PM
1996
Rd Sel# Player Pos. School
1 1 Keyshawn Johnson WR Southern California
1 7 Terry Glenn WR Ohio State
1 18 Eddie Kennison WR Louisiana State
1 19 Marvin Harrison WR Syracuse
1 24 Eric Moulds WR Mississippi State
2 31 Alex Van Dyke WR Nevada
2 34 Amani Toomer WR Michigan
2 41 Bryan Still WR Virginia Tech
2 43 Muhsin Muhammad WR Michigan State
2 52 Bobby Engram WR Penn State
2 56 Derrick Mayes WR Notre Dame
3 89 Terrell Owens WR Tenn.-Chattanooga
3 94 Stepfret Williams WR Louisiana-Monroe
4 110 Reggie Barlow WR Alabama State
4 114 Charlie Jones WR Fresno State
4 132 Jahine Arnold WR Fresno State
5 135 Joe Horn WR Itawamba JC
5 136 Mercury Hayes WR Michigan
5 153 Jermaine Lewis WR Maryland
5 159 Patrick Jeffers WR Virginia
5 160 Iheanyi Uwaezuoke WR California
5 165 Terry Guess WR Gardner-Webb
6 176 Dietrich Jells WR Pittsburgh
6 180 Nilo Silvan WR Tennessee
6 185 Chris Doering WR Florida
6 186 James Roe WR Norfolk State
6 199 Phillip Riley WR Florida State
6 204 Toderick Malone WR Alabama
7 217 Donnell Baker WR Southern U.
7 227 Clarence Jones WR Tennessee State
7 228 Gregory Spann WR Jackson State
7 250 De Andre Maxwell WR San Diego State
7 251 Brice Hunter WR Georgia

2001
Rd Sel# Player Pos. School
1 8 David Terrell WR Michigan
1 9 Koren Robinson WR North Carolina State
1 15 Rod Gardner WR Clemson
1 16 Santana Moss WR Miami
1 25 Freddie Mitchell WR UCLA
1 30 Reggie Wayne WR Miami
2 33 Quincy Morgan WR Kansas State
2 36 Chad Johnson WR Oregon State
2 41 Robert Ferguson WR Texas A&M
2 52 Chris Chambers WR Wisconsin
3 74 Steve Smith WR Utah
3 77 Marvin Minnis WR Florida State
4 116 Milton Wynn WR Washington State
4 124 Justin McCareins WR Northern Illinois
4 131 Cedric James WR Texas Christian
5 136 Vinny Sutherland WR Purdue
5 140 Alex Bannister WR Eastern Kentucky
5 148 Scotty Anderson WR Grambling
5 153 Onome Ojo WR Cal-Davis
5 154 Darnerien McCants WR Delaware State
5 159 Eddie Berlin WR Northern Iowa
5 162 Jonathan Carter WR Troy
6 166 Bobby Newcombe WR Nebraska
6 169 Cedrick Wilson WR Tennessee
6 190 Kevin Kasper WR Iowa
6 197 Francis St. Paul WR Northern Arizona
7 204 T.J. Houshmandzadeh WR Oregon State
7 208 John Capel WR Florida
7 214 Reggie Germany WR Ohio State
7 218 Chris Taylor WR Texas A&M
7 229 Ken-Yon Rambo WR Ohio State
7 235 Richmond Flowers WR Tenn.-Chattanooga
7 236 Quentin McCord WR Kentucky
7 245 Andre King WR Miami

bored of education
03-10-2007, 11:14 PM
Ken-Yon Rambo HAHHAHHA

The Dynasty
03-10-2007, 11:47 PM
Ken-Yon Rambo HAHHAHHA

I have his autograph rookie card lol.

etk
03-10-2007, 11:54 PM
This 07 WR class should be pretty good. Unlikely it will touch the 96 class though.

BlindSite
03-10-2007, 11:54 PM
1996:
Keyshawn Johnson - Still produces at a very high level
Terry Glenn - Never more than a number two
Eddie Kennison - Solid, but never an elite receiver imo
Marvin Harrison - Top 3 or 4 of all time and in 04 a receiver most mentioned by DBs as the hardest to cover
Eric Moulds - See Kennison
Amani Toomer - Good number two, nothing more.
Mushin Muhhamed - Solid and at time spectacular, somewhat inconsistent at times
Bobby Engram - Never healthy
Terrel Owens - Amazingly good, when he shuts up and concentrates
Joe Horn - See above


2001:
Santana Moss - Still isn't utilised in the right way, could be an amazing talent, still finding himself
Reggie Wayne - Number two to one of the best of all time, probably beginning to become one of the league's best
Chad Johnson - Top 3 currently in the league
Chris Chambers - Inconsistent
Steve Smith - Top 3 currently in the league
T.J. Houshmandzadeh - Will end up as the primary target somewhere soon. Great number two receiver.

I think 2001, you've got Steve Smith who's only one of three guys ever to win the triple crown and has been to three probowls, Chad Johnson who's been amazing his entire career and continues to school defensive backs even when injured, Reggie Wayne who's helped manning get to the amazing heights he has.

2001 might not have more probowlers than 1996, but the calibre of the players who are probowlers is much higher than that of their 1996 counterparts.

Shiver
03-11-2007, 01:36 AM
1996:
Keyshawn Johnson - Still produces at a very high level
Terry Glenn - Never more than a number two
Eddie Kennison - Solid, but never an elite receiver imo
Marvin Harrison - Top 3 or 4 of all time and in 04 a receiver most mentioned by DBs as the hardest to cover
Eric Moulds - See Kennison
Amani Toomer - Good number two, nothing more.
Mushin Muhhamed - Solid and at time spectacular, somewhat inconsistent at times
Bobby Engram - Never healthy
Terrel Owens - Amazingly good, when he shuts up and concentrates
Joe Horn - See above


2001:
Santana Moss - Still isn't utilised in the right way, could be an amazing talent, still finding himself
Reggie Wayne - Number two to one of the best of all time, probably beginning to become one of the league's best
Chad Johnson - Top 3 currently in the league
Chris Chambers - Inconsistent
Steve Smith - Top 3 currently in the league
T.J. Houshmandzadeh - Will end up as the primary target somewhere soon. Great number two receiver.

I think 2001, you've got Steve Smith who's only one of three guys ever to win the triple crown and has been to three probowls, Chad Johnson who's been amazing his entire career and continues to school defensive backs even when injured, Reggie Wayne who's helped manning get to the amazing heights he has.

2001 might not have more probowlers than 1996, but the calibre of the players who are probowlers is much higher than that of their 1996 counterparts.


That is absolutely a wrong way to look at it in my opinion. Especially when that list disregards all the busts the '01 class had, while including the mediocre receivers from the '96 class. Top to bottom, with every receiver in the class considered, the '96 class trumps the '01 class easily.


David Terrell
Koren Robinson
Rod Gardner
Freddie Mitchell


The '96 class had no 'busts' in the first round like '01 had. Top to bottom, it was deeper. '96 has two Hall of Fame caliber talents, whereas the '01 does not.

7-11
03-11-2007, 05:10 AM
i cant believe people like 01 better, 96 has 2 hall of famers, 1 of the top 3 wrs of all time and plenty of number 1 targets that have been doing great jobs for their teams for many years

Mr. Stiller
03-11-2007, 05:25 AM
i cant believe people like 01 better, 96 has 2 hall of famers, 1 of the top 3 wrs of all time and plenty of number 1 targets that have been doing great jobs for their teams for many years


Maybe Wait till the 96 Class finally retires and you gotta figure... the 01 class only had 5 years vs. the 10 years.

The Unseen
03-11-2007, 05:59 AM
1996:
Keyshawn Johnson - Still produces at a very high level
Terry Glenn - Never more than a number two
Eddie Kennison - Solid, but never an elite receiver imo
Marvin Harrison - Top 3 or 4 of all time and in 04 a receiver most mentioned by DBs as the hardest to cover
Eric Moulds - See Kennison
Amani Toomer - Good number two, nothing more.
Mushin Muhhamed - Solid and at time spectacular, somewhat inconsistent at times
Bobby Engram - Never healthy
Terrel Owens - Amazingly good, when he shuts up and concentrates
Joe Horn - See above


2001:
Santana Moss - Still isn't utilised in the right way, could be an amazing talent, still finding himself
Reggie Wayne - Number two to one of the best of all time, probably beginning to become one of the league's best
Chad Johnson - Top 3 currently in the league
Chris Chambers - Inconsistent
Steve Smith - Top 3 currently in the league
T.J. Houshmandzadeh - Will end up as the primary target somewhere soon. Great number two receiver.

I think 2001, you've got Steve Smith who's only one of three guys ever to win the triple crown and has been to three probowls, Chad Johnson who's been amazing his entire career and continues to school defensive backs even when injured, Reggie Wayne who's helped manning get to the amazing heights he has.

2001 might not have more probowlers than 1996, but the calibre of the players who are probowlers is much higher than that of their 1996 counterparts.

No, to you 01 is better because Steve Smith was in it.

That's all you needed to say, dude. We know how you really feel.

omecool20
03-11-2007, 07:02 AM
I remembered during the 96 draft how Sterling Sharpe said that Harrison was the best WR available. I thought he was a bit over the top, but guess he was prophetic then. ;-)

It is interesting to see how the 96 class developed compared to the 2001 class. It would be cool to see how the teams have been drafting these last few years .....

eaglesalltheway
03-11-2007, 02:02 PM
96 is by far and away the better one. This years class my one day compare to 01, maybe even better, who knows.

duckseason
03-11-2007, 02:04 PM
96 is by far and away the better one. This years class my one day compare to 01, maybe even better, who knows.
Yeah, this discussion shouldn't even take place for another 6 years.

RaVeNFaNaCtIc
03-11-2007, 02:11 PM
This 07 WR class should be pretty good. Unlikely it will touch the 96 class though.

yea this years WR class is great- Meachan, Johnson, Bowe, Jarret, Rice etc. IMO could be better than the 96 class.

MaxV
03-11-2007, 02:14 PM
yea this years WR class is great- Meachan, Johnson, Bowe, Jarret, Rice etc. IMO could be better than the 96 class.


Yes, if history is any indication, atleast one of those guys might turn out to be a bust.

JRTPlaya21
03-11-2007, 02:27 PM
04 had Fitzgerald, Roy Williams, Reggie Williams, Michael Clayton, Lee Evans, then a bust in Woods and an up in the air Michael Jenkins. And a few post up I think you meant to spell Meachem & Jarrett, no biggie.

Vikes99ej
03-11-2007, 02:44 PM
04 had Fitzgerald, Roy Williams, Reggie Williams, Michael Clayton, Lee Evans, then a bust in Woods and an up in the air Michael Jenkins. And a few post up I think you meant to spell Meachem & Jarrett, no biggie.

Yeah, I was about to mention the WR class of 04. There are 3 recievers in there who had fantastic seasons last year (Evans, Roy Williams, and Fitzgerald would have if he hadn't gotten injured). I don't know what to think about Reggie and Clayton yet. Reggie showed some signs last year.

dware_94
03-11-2007, 02:57 PM
96 looks a lot better IMO

Go_Eagles77
03-11-2007, 03:27 PM
I gotta say 96 although although 01 has a lot of talent too

BlindSite
03-11-2007, 05:08 PM
No, to you 01 is better because Steve Smith was in it.

That's all you needed to say, dude. We know how you really feel.

Actually I think its the best because its got both Johnson and Steve Smith, two players who'll be dominant for another 5 years in the league and probably supplant some of the guys from the 96 class who you're slobbering over.

HoopsDemon12
03-11-2007, 05:10 PM
Ken-Yon Rambo HAHHAHHA
Hey you know the guys pretty good in the CFL.....haha im a canadian and i cant even say that with a straight face HAHAHA!!

OhioState
03-11-2007, 05:22 PM
i cant believe people like 01 better, 96 has 2 hall of famers, 1 of the top 3 wrs of all time and plenty of number 1 targets that have been doing great jobs for their teams for many years

who are the two hofers? TO will never get enough votes

draftguru151
03-11-2007, 05:27 PM
who are the two hofers? TO will never get enough votes

He still has HOF numbers.

eacantdraft
03-12-2007, 08:13 AM
96 is the better class, no contest. 1 sure fire Hall of Famer. One bubble Hall of Famer (TO).

Can't say that for anyone in the 2001 draft.

portermvp84
03-12-2007, 09:57 AM
I like the 01 guys a little more there the guys on the top of their game and have like 10 years left to play.

bigmac076
03-12-2007, 10:05 AM
'96 without question.

asmitty45
03-12-2007, 11:35 AM
I give it to 96, they have the slight edge in championships and they are the deeper class

lod01
03-12-2007, 12:23 PM
Maybe Wait till the 96 Class finally retires and you gotta figure... the 01 class only had 5 years vs. the 10 years.


The 96 class has already won this debate. There are 10 guys in that class still playing today. 10 Wr's in one draft class playing for 11 seasons. 9 of them still either the #1 or #2 receiver. Amazing.

Microphon200
03-12-2007, 04:56 PM
01 has some pretty big names, but 96 is collectively solid

Agreed, and how'd you get up to 2,200 posts? A couple of months ago you had like 500?

etk
03-12-2007, 05:03 PM
Yes, if history is any indication, atleast one of those guys might turn out to be a bust.

Will be Bowe IMO

dhoe20
03-12-2007, 05:33 PM
How pray tell does '01 have better quality? Right now I don't think any of the '01 Receivers are slated to be Hall of Fame-rs. Where as Harrison is, Owens on numbers alone is.

The '96 class also has 5 years on the '01 receivers. the '01 receivers have only been around for 6 years. 6 years into TO's career he only had 2 pro bowls, and 6 years into Marvin he had 3, the same amount that Steve Smith has and 1 less than Chad Johnson.

And TO doesn't necessarily have "HOF numbers". He has one HOF number, and that's his amt of Touchdowns but that's it. He's not a HoFer. And if you say that the '01 class has no HoF talent then you're an idiot. Only Gale Sayers could be inducted into the hall with 6 years of work. Give it time and Chad Johnson will be a HoF'er and there may be another.