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Hines
11-11-2009, 03:30 PM
Thursday
Chicago @ San Francisco

Sunday
New Orleans @ St. Louis
Tampa Bay @ Miami
Detroit @ Minnesota
Jacksonville @ NY Jets
Buffalo @ Tennessee
Cincinnati @ Pittsburgh
Denver @ Washington
Atlanta @ Carolina
Kansas City @ Oakland
Seattle @ Arizona
Dallas @ Green Bay
Philadelphia @ San Diego
New England @ Indianapolis

Monday
Baltimore @ Cleveland


I am back doing the thread now since I didn't have computer access last weekend. Two huge games this week for the AFC with Pitt-Cinci and NE-Indy. AFCN gets a division leader after Sunday.

Gay Ork Wang
11-11-2009, 03:33 PM
Bears lose 114 to 13

Timbathia
11-11-2009, 03:48 PM
I love having games on Thursdays.

yo123
11-11-2009, 04:07 PM
I ******* hate Lion week. Childress will not have this team ready to play.

SuperMcGee
11-11-2009, 04:09 PM
Bills are back! So is Edwards.
They better throw it to Evans in this game. A lot. Must break off Young's winning ways, if possible.

Go_Eagles77
11-11-2009, 04:25 PM
I'm gonna go ahead and say the eagles will either win fairly comfortably or get embarrassed.

Mr.Regular
11-11-2009, 04:26 PM
The Cowboys should slaughter us...luckily I'll be able to turn to Manning v. Brady if it gets out of hand.

umphrey
11-11-2009, 04:33 PM
Mike McCarthy might be playing for his job this week and I'd give us about a 0.5% chance of beating the Cowboys.

Over/under # of sacks for Demarcus Ware: 5.5

I'm taking over

Splat
11-11-2009, 04:44 PM
I'm going to go a head and say the Chiefs lose a close one in the 4th.

UKfan
11-11-2009, 05:04 PM
Really worried about the Colts against the Pats this weekend, hope we can do it though, taking Monday off work so I can watch it live!

CC.SD
11-11-2009, 05:57 PM
I'm gonna go ahead and say the eagles will either win fairly comfortably or get embarrassed.

Thanks Dr. Schrodinger! I agree.

MetSox17
11-11-2009, 06:08 PM
I really hope Ware has a big game and just wrecks **** against GB.

RaiderNation
11-11-2009, 06:35 PM
Raiders are going to win. Schilens, Gallery and McFadden are back

SFbear
11-11-2009, 06:37 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/11/11/nfl-moves-bears-vikings-game-to-415-pm-et/

So now the Bears have two Primetime games in a row and an afternoon game after that just in time for our complete and utter defensive collapse. Awesome.

I predict we lose all 3. =(

Paranoidmoonduck
11-11-2009, 06:44 PM
Raiders are going to win. Schilens, Gallery and McFadden are back

Schilens won't help the passing game all that much, but Gallery and McFadden could help the ground game get back on track. They'll need too, because Oakland simply isn't capable of coming from behind these days (and the Chiefs may be).

Nalej
11-11-2009, 06:46 PM
Brady Vs Manning is always fun to watch. I can't wait.

CJSchneider
11-11-2009, 06:46 PM
Bears lose 114 to 13

I'd crap my own pants. This game gives me a reason to be happy on Thursday.

The_Dude
11-11-2009, 06:56 PM
I'd crap my own pants. This game gives me a reason to be happy on Thursday.

Then you'd better pay close attention to this advertisement:

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PalmerToCJ
11-11-2009, 07:00 PM
I think Pitt-Cin would be a slightly better MNF game than the other AFCN game slated but that's just me.

I keep saying it in the Bengals forum but it blows my mind that if we could win this game, we'd have a great shot at a first weekend buy.

bored of education
11-11-2009, 07:46 PM
Game of the week: Raiders Chiefs!

49ersfan_87
11-11-2009, 08:54 PM
I'm glad Thursday night football is back, i hate waiting until Sunday for football. And it's a bonus that it's my favorite team playing. Can't wait.

yo123
11-11-2009, 10:08 PM
Why does Cleveland keep getting primetime games? Didn't they get like 5 last year too?

CC.SD
11-11-2009, 10:33 PM
Why does Cleveland keep getting primetime games? Didn't they get like 5 last year too?

They were supposed to have KW2 and Braylon this year, this matchup had potential. But then reality set in.

Giantsfan1080
11-11-2009, 10:38 PM
I hate these Thursday night games.

Sniper
11-11-2009, 11:52 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/11/11/nfl-moves-bears-vikings-game-to-415-pm-et/

So now the Bears have two Primetime games in a row and an afternoon game after that just in time for our complete and utter defensive collapse. Awesome.

I predict we lose all 3. =(

You won't. Philly doesn't win primetime games.

yo123
11-12-2009, 12:05 AM
They were supposed to have KW2 and Braylon this year, this matchup had potential. But then reality set in.

But they had them last year and they sucked then too. Winslow missed some time but he wasn't going to turn around a 4-12 team around.

vikes_28
11-12-2009, 12:21 AM
I think the Vikings should get more primetime games.

Raiderz4Life
11-12-2009, 12:24 AM
If the Raiders don't win...i will proceed to drown my sorrows

dabears10
11-12-2009, 12:40 AM
I think the Vikings should get more primetime games.

Don't worry it will cause an influx of "No one respects us, nobody thinks we can do it outside of this locker room". Then you will fly under the radar and begin to taunt everyone for underrating you.

Maybe Next Year Millen2
11-12-2009, 01:06 PM
I ******* hate Lion week. Childress will not have this team ready to play.

You had a bye, you should be really ready. Not that it matters but Lions had to go to Green Bay and to Minnesota after each of their bye weeks. That freaking sucks. Oh well chalk up an L. Just hope we keep it close.

Interesting though it will be the first team Stafford has played against already and seen their defense. See if he does better the second time around(second time around should be sung like in that show Step by Step).

Shiver
11-12-2009, 01:14 PM
Should I start Matt Cassel or Johnny Knox in my flex?

CC.SD
11-12-2009, 02:38 PM
Should I start Matt Cassel or Johnny Knox in my flex?

I would go with Knox, he might get some targets while every once in a while the Raider D-line actually shows up and overwhelms some crappy O-lines.

Can't help but notice the Eagles will be missing a few cornerbacks...not great timing with them traveling to face Phil's flying circus.

Sniper
11-12-2009, 03:39 PM
I would go with Knox, he might get some targets while every once in a while the Raider D-line actually shows up and overwhelms some crappy O-lines.

Can't help but notice the Eagles will be missing a few cornerbacks...not great timing with them traveling to face Phil's flying circus.

We're gonna get ******* smoked.

ATLDirtyBirds
11-12-2009, 03:51 PM
Seriously, why are Fox executives giving me the Detroit-Minny game? I'll spoil it. Minny wins, by a lot.

P-L
11-12-2009, 04:19 PM
Actually Detroit usually plays Minnesota real tough for some reason. Minnesota almost always wins, but Detroit usually finds a way to make it closer than it should be.

yo123
11-12-2009, 04:20 PM
Actually Detroit usually plays Minnesota real tough for some reason. Minnesota almost always wins, but Detroit usually finds a way to make it closer than it should be.


Yeah, you guys are really annoying.

Brodeur
11-12-2009, 04:49 PM
Yeah, you guys are really annoying.

Hey, the Lions won a game against Mike Tice once. I think.

EDIT: Nevermind, it was against Childress during Kitna's Jesus miracle comeback.

Shiver
11-12-2009, 04:54 PM
This is what I think of Jon Kitna:

http://img.coxnewsweb.com/B/03/96/39/image_7539963.jpg

Hines
11-12-2009, 05:24 PM
I am happy to have the Steeler game this Sunday.

SFbear
11-12-2009, 05:53 PM
Both our safeties are out. Vernon Davis should have a big game and I bet Gore breaks a few long TD runs.

tjsunstein
11-12-2009, 06:28 PM
Not looking forward to the game this weekend but then again, I'll watch the whole thing only to be dissapointed.

CC.SD
11-12-2009, 06:37 PM
Not looking forward to the game this weekend but then again, I'll watch the whole thing only to be dissapointed.

Keep a stiff upper lip mayne.

Finz99
11-12-2009, 07:10 PM
Go Dolphins!

TitanHope
11-12-2009, 07:23 PM
I didn't know TNF broadcasts were this poor of quality.

dpl85
11-12-2009, 07:26 PM
At least Bryant Gumbel isn't the play by play guy any more.

Wootylicous
11-12-2009, 07:33 PM
Roach just got owned

Borat
11-12-2009, 07:39 PM
Well, that was a nice drive that resulted in ****.

terribletowel39
11-12-2009, 07:45 PM
That was one of the greatest 7 minutes of football. The no announcers thing was beautiful. I think that is how all football games should be. Minus a few guys.

Borat
11-12-2009, 08:06 PM
Umm, thanks Jay Cutler!

bored of education
11-12-2009, 08:16 PM
Thanks Alex Smith! Damn.

Borat
11-12-2009, 08:20 PM
That was a horrid pass Alex, you ******* piece of ****.

Hurricanes25
11-12-2009, 08:24 PM
TD.....Frank Gore

Borat
11-12-2009, 08:24 PM
Thanks Jay Cutler.

Borat 2
BOE 1

MetSox17
11-12-2009, 08:25 PM
Yep, Tarrell Brown is from Texas.

bored of education
11-12-2009, 08:25 PM
:( Matt Cassel 0! :(

Borat
11-12-2009, 08:45 PM
Wooooohooooo. Halftime. Been brewing up a big dump.

bored of education
11-12-2009, 08:59 PM
I'm gonna win

MetSox17
11-12-2009, 09:01 PM
I want to watch the game, can someone PM me?

Brodeur
11-12-2009, 09:04 PM
Cutlerrific pass.

TitanHope
11-12-2009, 09:07 PM
I want to watch the game, can someone PM me?

Link to live streaming: http://www.streamsportslive.com/

Matthew Jones
11-12-2009, 09:18 PM
I think people are finally starting to realize that Jay Cutler is just not a great quarterback. People used to say "oh, he just had to force things because of his defense." Now it looks a lot like he's just a guy whose decision-making and accuracy aren't really at the level you want from a franchise QB. The Bears offense has really been underwhelming this year and Cutler's affinity for turning the ball over is a big reason why. This guy is on pace for like 30 interceptions.

Brodeur
11-12-2009, 09:23 PM
I thought San Francisco would actually be able to score since Chicago's defense blows ass but apparently not.

P-L
11-12-2009, 09:26 PM
Does anyone remember a year where there were so many quarterbacks with this high of interception totals? Jay Cutler is on pace to throw 27, Jake Delhomme - 26, Matthew Stafford - 28, Kurt Warner - 22, Matt Ryan - 20, and Mark Sanchez - 20. That is unusually high.

Borat
11-12-2009, 09:27 PM
I thought San Francisco would actually be able to score since Chicago's defense blows ass but apparently not.

It's the resistable force vs. the movable object

Stash
11-12-2009, 09:29 PM
It's the resistable force vs. the movable object
Shouldn't it be stoppable force?

Borat
11-12-2009, 09:33 PM
Oh Stash.

That was a personal foul? Really?

Jvig43
11-12-2009, 09:33 PM
I think people are finally starting to realize that Jay Cutler is just not a great quarterback. People used to say "oh, he just had to force things because of his defense." Now it looks a lot like he's just a guy whose decision-making and accuracy aren't really at the level you want from a franchise QB. The Bears offense has really been underwhelming this year and Cutler's affinity for turning the ball over is a big reason why. This guy is on pace for like 30 interceptions.

Dont tell the to *** ork, every int he throws is clearly not his fault. I cant stress enough that potential does not equal production.

PalmerToCJ
11-12-2009, 09:35 PM
Would Manning or Brady be good QB's if they were in Chicago? I think not, place is cursed.

Brodeur
11-12-2009, 09:35 PM
Great run blocking in this half by the 49ers.

Jvig43
11-12-2009, 09:39 PM
Would Manning or Brady be good QB's if they were in Chicago? I think not, place is cursed.

Please I'm pretty sure Brady produced with very little offense outside of Brown in terms of weapons to get us a super bowl ring. Great no, an interception machine like cutler, definitely not.

Borat
11-12-2009, 09:40 PM
Great run blocking in this half by the 49ers.

Well, it's a bottom 5 offensive line missing it's best player. What did you expect?

PalmerToCJ
11-12-2009, 09:41 PM
Please I'm pretty sure Brady produced with very little offense outside of Brown in terms of weapons to get us a super bowl ring. Great no, an interception machine like cutler, definitely not.

It was a joke, slick.

TitanHope
11-12-2009, 09:43 PM
Good lord Cutler...

NVM, that was totally PI.

Borat
11-12-2009, 09:44 PM
ZOMG! A Mark Roman INT? HAHAHA. WOW. I don't think I've ever seen one before.

Brodeur
11-12-2009, 09:44 PM
Nice job missing Gore standing there with his arms up wide open Alex.

drowe
11-12-2009, 09:44 PM
LOL. Jay Cutler. nice to watch the demise of a division rival, and comforting to know that as bad as the Packers are, at least their future isn't as bleak as the bears.

also, i meant to start Cutler in fantasy football..but, forgot to make the switch. yay me.

Jvig43
11-12-2009, 09:46 PM
It was a joke, slick.

Sorry, I hate all the defending of Cutler. Its gotten to me for years now, nothing personal.

diabsoule
11-12-2009, 09:47 PM
I'd rather have Trent Edwards as my quarterback than Jay Cutler. True story.

Wally03
11-12-2009, 09:47 PM
Anyone else thinking that this Bears - 49ers game is almost of the same level of torture to try and watch as the Bills - Browns ticklefest, err I mean NFL game?

Borat
11-12-2009, 09:48 PM
Alex Smith is so ******* terrible.

diabsoule
11-12-2009, 09:48 PM
Anyone else thinking that this Bears - 49ers game is almost of the same level of torture to try and watch as the Bills - Browns ticklefest, err I mean NFL game?

This game is more competitive than that pillow fight.

Jvig43
11-12-2009, 09:51 PM
Rex grossman or Jay Cutler?

Brodeur
11-12-2009, 09:51 PM
Jay Cutler has the **** it I'm going deep attitude and I like it.

P-L
11-12-2009, 09:52 PM
Rex grossman or Jay Cutler?
What's the difference?

diabsoule
11-12-2009, 09:53 PM
What's the difference?

Grossman's beard was better.

Borat
11-12-2009, 09:53 PM
Which do you guys like better:

Jay Grossman

or

Rex Cutler

TitansCJftw
11-12-2009, 09:54 PM
this is one pathetic game... i figured the 9ers would target vernon davis more but he's more of an afterthought besides the middle screen that was doomed to fail...

Brodeur
11-12-2009, 09:54 PM
Rex Cutler sounds almost as awesome as Max Power.

diabsoule
11-12-2009, 09:55 PM
We, the Scott Wright Draft Countdown forum, should all write Josh McDaniel's an apology for ever doubting his decision making skills and congratulate him on fleecing the Bears in the Jay Cutler trade.

TitanHope
11-12-2009, 09:55 PM
Damn it Brandon Jones, you freakin' suck at PR. You either field it and run backwards for a loss, or don't field and and let it roll for another 5+ yards.

yo123
11-12-2009, 09:56 PM
Wow, I've been a Cutler supporter for a while but it's getting harder and harder to do. 16 INT's through 9 games isn't just bad luck, no matter how you spin it.

diabsoule
11-12-2009, 09:57 PM
Damn it Brandon Jones, you freakin' suck at PR. You either field it and run backwards for a loss, or don't field and and let it roll for another 5+ yards.

He must be watching tapes of Reggie Bush's punt returns.

Jvig43
11-12-2009, 10:01 PM
Wow, I've been a Cutler supporter for a while but it's getting harder and harder to do. 16 INT's through 9 games isn't just bad luck, no matter how you spin it.

What?!?!?! No Cutler = second coming of christ.

Brodeur
11-12-2009, 10:03 PM
Michael Robinson with crappy hands yet making it work.

Brodeur
11-12-2009, 10:13 PM
Dre Bly is incredibly useless.

Borat
11-12-2009, 10:15 PM
What the hell was Chris Williams thinking?

TitansCJftw
11-12-2009, 10:18 PM
hah there has been a ****load of offsides penalties wow

Shiver
11-12-2009, 10:20 PM
Should I trade Steve Smith (NYG) for Brian Westbrook?

Job
11-12-2009, 10:21 PM
Depends. Who are our other RBs, WRs.

Brodeur
11-12-2009, 10:23 PM
God he sucks.

TitanHope
11-12-2009, 10:23 PM
Fitting end to this game.

Job
11-12-2009, 10:23 PM
Aaaand number five.

TitansCJftw
11-12-2009, 10:23 PM
pick #5 wow cutler, thanks for not throwing to vernon davis and 9ers you're ruining my fantasy TE!

Matthew Jones
11-12-2009, 10:24 PM
Pass the ball to Tucker!

Job
11-12-2009, 10:24 PM
What's the record number of interceptions in a single year.

Stash
11-12-2009, 10:25 PM
OMFG Cutler is the worst, worse than Russell.
















Okay maybe not that bad.

Matthew Jones
11-12-2009, 10:25 PM
Shoot, my post was really late. Jay Cutler is just not a good quarterback. Average, sure. Not good.

Brodeur
11-12-2009, 10:25 PM
What's the record number of interceptions in a single year.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BlanGe00.htm

djp
11-12-2009, 10:25 PM
wow Cutler was simply horrendous in this game..

Shiver
11-12-2009, 10:26 PM
Depends. Who are our other RBs, WRs.

RB - Ray Rice
RB - Laurence Maroney
WR - Marques Colston
WR - Steve Smith
WR - Santonio Holmes

Bench -

Steve Slaton (benched)
Lee Evans
Johnny Knox

But I need to win, big time, and Smith won't help me this week. Westbrook is back at practice so he might be an upgrade over the mercurial Maroney.

Job
11-12-2009, 10:27 PM
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BlanGe00.htm

I see. He might not get to 42.

Job
11-12-2009, 10:28 PM
RB - Ray Rice
RB - Laurence Maroney
WR - Marques Colston
WR - Steve Smith
WR - Santonio Holmes

Bench -

Steve Slaton (benched)
Lee Evans
Johnny Knox

But I need to win, big time, and Smith won't help me this week. Westbrook is back at practice so he might be an upgrade over the mercurial Maroney.


I'd do it I guess. But I suck at FF, so you might want to get some more opinions.

TitleTown088
11-12-2009, 10:30 PM
Was Jay Cutler still worth the price of that trade bears fans?

Shiver
11-12-2009, 10:32 PM
Kyle Orton is who we thought he was.


.....


so was Jay Cutler.


Neither team wins!

iowatreat54
11-12-2009, 10:33 PM
Was Jay Cutler still worth the price of that trade bears fans?

Nope, it's been 10 games (?) and we should prolly just cut him.

LonghornsLegend
11-12-2009, 10:34 PM
Was Jay Cutler still worth the price of that trade bears fans?

I definately think so, isn't like that O-line isn't a piece of crap, with a bunch of developmental WR's. A franchise QB is still hard to find, but they have a long way to go with putting pieces in play to make him be able to take them the next level.


He's still got plenty of flaws no doubt, but I can't ignore the way that line has played this year and just point the finger at him when looking at the stats.


edit: let me add I didn't watch the game so I can't attest to how poorly he played, but coming off of the season he just came off of, I doubt he would of been traded for anything less...It's obvious McDaniels knew he wouldn't work with what he was trying to do though.

Jvig43
11-12-2009, 10:41 PM
Was Jay Cutler still worth the price of that trade bears fans?

Now I'm seriously pissed we only got a second for Matt Cassel.

Gay Ork Wang
11-12-2009, 10:41 PM
Dont tell the to *** ork, every int he throws is clearly not his fault. I cant stress enough that potential does not equal production.
you clearly have no idea. but i missed the game, but up to now, most of them werent his fault. im not saying he is a great QB, but up to this game, mostly his INTs were faults on the Defense or the WRs.
Then again this game seems to be totally different

Timbathia
11-12-2009, 10:57 PM
I was absolutely ripped apart in these forums when I suggested preseason that McDaniels looking into trading Cutler for Cassel straight-up had some logic to it.

Right now, I think that the best case for the Broncos would in fact have been that trade.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
11-12-2009, 11:00 PM
Looks like Denver might get a top 10 pick after all...

Timbathia
11-12-2009, 11:01 PM
Looks like Denver might get a top 10 pick after all...

McDaniels has looked smarter with each week of this season.

SFbear
11-12-2009, 11:08 PM
Somewhere Rex Grossman is laughing his ass off.

TitleTown088
11-12-2009, 11:13 PM
Nope, it's been 10 games (?) and we should prolly just cut him.
How does that relate to what I'm saying? I don't don't think he's two firsts better than Orton.

you clearly have no idea. but i missed the game, but up to now, most of them werent his fault. im not saying he is a great QB, but up to this game, mostly his INTs were faults on the Defense or the WRs.
Then again this game seems to be totally different

Excuses for gunslingers, I forgot what that used to sound like. Seems like 4ever ago. :)

wogitalia
11-12-2009, 11:16 PM
you clearly have no idea. but i missed the game, but up to now, most of them werent his fault. im not saying he is a great QB, but up to this game, mostly his INTs were faults on the Defense or the WRs.

They were all his fault, and horrible, in the first game of the season, he was genuinely hitting defenders in space in that one.

sweetness34
11-12-2009, 11:22 PM
They were all his fault, and horrible, in the first game of the season, he was genuinely hitting defenders in space in that one.

They were all his fault? What the **** game were you watching?

Two of them were his fault. The other 3; Hester slipped, Hester runs into field judge, and the 3rd was boarderline PI, I thought you couldn't touch the receiver after 5 yards but what the hell do I know.

Cutler didn't have a great game by any stretch of the imagination but let me put a number for you. 1.6ypc, that's what Forte's stats were tonight outside of his 15 yard run in the first half. You ask a gunslinger QB to throw the ball 50 times without a run game, mistakes are going to happen.

Jay needs to be smarter with the ball, but anyone who has watched us this year can see that the man needs some help in pass protection and in the run game. Receivers finishing their routes and not slipping would help too.

The 5 INT's IMO aren't indicative of how he played. First INT was a very bad throw though, can't make those decisions in the red zone even if it was a **** play call and no one was open. 5th pick was probably him thinking there was no time left so he had to make a play but there was absolutely no one to throw to anyway. It was either run for the endzone or throw one up and see what happens.

Shiver
11-12-2009, 11:26 PM
But that could be said about any QB. All interceptions are 1/3 WR, 1/3 defense, 1/3 QB; even still Jay Cutler has more interceptions than any other QB.

thule
11-12-2009, 11:31 PM
But that could be said about any QB. All interceptions are 1/3 WR, 1/3 defense, 1/3 QB; even still Jay Cutler has more interceptions than any other QB.

So when a QB hits a WR in the numbers and the WR clanks it off his chest and into the arms of a safety...that means it's 1/3 QB fault...I have to disagree.

the decider13
11-12-2009, 11:33 PM
The only two interceptions that were clearly Jay's fault were the two redzone picks. Sadly, those were the two that mattered the most.

iowatreat54
11-12-2009, 11:36 PM
How does that relate to what I'm saying? I don't don't think he's two firsts better than Orton.



Excuses for gunslingers, I forgot what that used to sound like. Seems like 4ever ago. :)

You're asking if a trade was worth it 10 games into a season. Especially a trade including a draft pick that hasn't even happened yet.

If Jay Cutler goes on to become the greatest QB of all time, would he be 2 first better than Orton?

Yes, I know that question is asinine because anything could happen, but that's why you ask the question in like a season or 2, not 10 games into a QBs first season in a new system with a vastly inferior offense than he has worked with the past 3 seasons. Not to mention the guy is 26, it's not like we traded for a guy who is past his prime.

I understand Cutler hasn't looked good this year and that some people don't think he's that much better than average than others. However, hating just to hate at this point is blatantly obvious. Any reasonable person wouldn't assess a trade 10 games after it, that's just dumb.

the decider13
11-12-2009, 11:40 PM
You're asking if a trade was worth it 10 games into a season. Especially a trade including a draft pick that hasn't even happened yet.

If Jay Cutler goes on to become the greatest QB of all time, would he be 2 first better than Orton?

Yes, I know that question is asinine because anything could happen, but that's why you ask the question in like a season or 2, not 10 games into a QBs first season in a new system with a vastly inferior offense than he has worked with the past 3 seasons. Not to mention the guy is 26, it's not like we traded for a guy who is past his prime.

I understand Cutler hasn't looked good this year and that some people don't think he's that much better than average than others. However, hating just to hate at this point is blatantly obvious. Any reasonable person wouldn't assess a trade 10 games after it, that's just dumb.

So would you tell people to calm down and stop making judgements if Cutler was playing awesome this year? Probably not.

Gay Ork Wang
11-12-2009, 11:43 PM
So when a QB hits a WR in the numbers and the WR clanks it off his chest and into the arms of a safety...that means it's 1/3 QB fault...I have to disagree.
or if the Receiver slips or runs the run route

iowatreat54
11-12-2009, 11:44 PM
So would you tell people to calm down and stop making judgements if Cutler was playing awesome this year? Probably not.

I don't get excited over one good year or one bad year. Anyone who thought Cutler was going to have anywhere near the season he had last year is a moron. Did I expect him to have this many INTs? No. But it's not the end of the world like so many people make it out to be.

Honestly, it's like some people believe that one season makes or breaks a player. Having one bad season or one good season has never happened before, I know, so when it happens, we should all just accept it as a definitive showing of things to come.

Like I said, Chicago wasted picks and an obvious amazing QB, so we should prolly just cut Cutler now.

wogitalia
11-12-2009, 11:49 PM
They were all his fault? What the **** game were you watching?

Before you let your panties get all knotted, maybe read what I wrote. Quite clearly stated that in the first game they were all on him.

Also that's a harsh way of putting it, at least part of the blame needs to go on the OL, the majority of Cutler's picks though are just bad throws, be it from bad decisions or bad execution. He is a gunslinger though, perfectly capable of winning or losing games. Unfortunately with the Bears defense, run game, OL and WR, this year it has mostly been losing.

I still think it was a good trade by the bears though. They need someone who can win games for them, they also need to give him some help though, personally I think they probably gave up a little much, but that doesn't make it a bad trade, probably should be a 2nd or 3rd this year, or at least have been based on performance but a team like Chicago was going nowhere with Orton at QB, they don't have the kind of team that you can manage to a SB, not enough overall talent, they have the central piece to rebuild it all around though, just need to make good moves from here, start with the OL and DL.

Gay Ork Wang
11-12-2009, 11:49 PM
Asking a gunslinger to throw 50 times a game with 2ypc on the ground by his running backs is going to end in disaster. This offense is
set up for Jay to fail.
i think that sums it up best.

iowatreat54
11-12-2009, 11:51 PM
i think that sums it up best.

God, I hate Ron Turner so much. I don't understand how he's employed at any position in the NFL.

Halsey
11-12-2009, 11:51 PM
Don't blame Jay, he was forced to throw 5 int's because he's Matthew Stafford's doppelganger.

Gay Ork Wang
11-12-2009, 11:53 PM
Before you let your panties get all knotted, maybe read what I wrote. Quite clearly stated that in the first game they were all on him.

No they werent. 2 were on him. The stupid one, i think the 3rd, right across his body across the field was all his. The one on the screen, could give him that too. The last one was because the WR stuttered and stopped on the slant route. The other one was Olsen being held and quitting on his route

Jvig43
11-13-2009, 12:01 AM
you clearly have no idea. but i missed the game, but up to now, most of them werent his fault. im not saying he is a great QB, but up to this game, mostly his INTs were faults on the Defense or the WRs.
Then again this game seems to be totally different

A few werent his fault, I watched the game, but two of them, the biggest ones, were, and just stupid. And yes I do have an idea, which is why week in and week out me claiming Jay cutler isnt that good looks pretty dead on, and week in and week out your excuses for him just get old and become repetitive homer statements.. I honestly dont care what the reasons are, 15 picks half way through a season is far too many. You can continue to blame the team, the players, the coaching, the ******* weather, but hes making bad decisions and bad throws, ESPECIALLY in the red zone and key plays. With that said I think Jay could come out and have a big game next week, but it wouldnt surprise me if he didnt.

Gay Ork Wang
11-13-2009, 12:06 AM
yes he has made bad decisions. im not saying he never makes a mistake. at last 1/4 of the interceptions are him forcing the ball downfield being a gunslinger. it is not like is a surprise. Favre threw all those interceptions. but the thing is that you cant expect him to throw all game, with no running game, 3rd and long all game like it was all the other games, then let the other team score on the first 4 possessions like in the cardinals game, or the first 8 possessions in the bengals game and then expect him to not try to keep up

Jvig43
11-13-2009, 12:12 AM
I understand this, but his decision making needs to improve. Maybe try throwing it away on second down and try forcing it on third, hence forth giving yourself a second chance. I dont mean to come off as such a hater for the guy, hes just not playing good/smart football, regardless of the situation, can he succeed, he probably has the potential, and if he does I'll eat crow and take it, but the dude is not playing at a good enough level for the NFL, especially for the hype hes gotten.

CC.SD
11-13-2009, 12:24 AM
What?! Cutler completely failing when it matters most? Who could have known?

Jvig43
11-13-2009, 12:28 AM
What?! Cutler completely failing when it matters most? Who could have known?

Number 10. Dead on with how awful Rivers is

Gay Ork Wang
11-13-2009, 12:38 AM
I understand this, but his decision making needs to improve. Maybe try throwing it away on second down and try forcing it on third, hence forth giving yourself a second chance. I dont mean to come off as such a hater for the guy, hes just not playing good/smart football, regardless of the situation, can he succeed, he probably has the potential, and if he does I'll eat crow and take it, but the dude is not playing at a good enough level for the NFL, especially for the hype hes gotten.
i can agree with this. His decision making at times is horrible, but people seem like he is some kind of Delhomme or someone who is a horrendous QB. atm he is prolly a little above average with a high ceiling

TitleTown088
11-13-2009, 12:39 AM
So when a QB hits a WR in the numbers and the WR clanks it off his chest and into the arms of a safety...that means it's 1/3 QB fault...I have to disagree.

But he still has a point, those type of INTs happen to all QBs, not just Jay Cutler.

Timbathia
11-13-2009, 02:17 AM
Cutler now has 9 red zone picks since the start of last season.

no bare feet
11-13-2009, 08:41 AM
A pick is a pick, no matter why it happened. Sometimes a no huddle can help a player get in a rythm like Big Ben, I wonder if doing more no huddle, shorter routes, 3 step drops would help Cutler. I just have no trust in Cutler to make a throw that matters.

Gay Ork Wang
11-13-2009, 08:52 AM
A pick is a pick, no matter why it happened. Sometimes a no huddle can help a player get in a rythm like Big Ben, I wonder if doing more no huddle, shorter routes, 3 step drops would help Cutler. I just have no trust in Cutler to make a throw that matters.
http://www.mouthpiecesports.com/blogmedia/2009/04/ron_turner-200x300.jpg
"What is this "no huddle offense" that you speak of?"

P-L
11-13-2009, 12:52 PM
I see. He might not get to 42.
The Super Bowl era record is 35, by Vinny Testaverde. I don't think Cutler breaks that one either though.

Shiver
11-13-2009, 12:54 PM
DeAngelo Williams missed practice Friday and is very questionable. That is excellent news for my Falcons.

Jvig43
11-13-2009, 01:04 PM
DeAngelo Williams missed practice Friday and is very questionable. That is excellent news for my Falcons.

jksfhkajhfkashf second week one of my Rbs is questionable, if D willie doesnt play im dropping three in a row.

yo123
11-13-2009, 01:07 PM
Ok I just saw the Niners Bears highlights, and the only INT that you can even make a good argument for not being Cutler's fault was the one where Hester fell down, and even that was a bad throw, Hester wasn't open.

soybean
11-13-2009, 01:10 PM
im gonna have to stick up for my guy here. How come when sanchez throws 5 picks, he all of a sudden sucks and is headed for bust central, but when cutler throws 5 ints in one game 4 in another and his team and receivers suck.

those were horrid throws. take off the shades bears' fans, he had a bad game.

TitleTown088
11-13-2009, 01:19 PM
The OC is to blame for the picks? That would be taking it above blaming Brent's( BrINT's) picks on the WRs. Classic.

RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES
11-13-2009, 01:21 PM
Ok I just saw the Niners Bears highlights, and the only INT that you can even make a good argument for not being Cutler's fault was the one where Hester fell down, and even that was a bad throw, Hester wasn't open.

So you don't think that Olsen should of fought more for the catch that got picked when he got bumped? He looked like he gave up on that play and the refs didn't call a pass interference so 2 of them not his fault.

yo123
11-13-2009, 01:24 PM
So you don't think that Olsen should of fought more for the catch that got picked when he got bumped? He looked like he gave up on that play and the refs didn't call a pass interference so 2 of them not his fault.


1. That wasn't pass interfernce
2. If it wasn't already a bad throw we wouldn't have to worry about Olsen fighting harder for it.

Edit- Damnit, in other words exactly what njx said.

RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES
11-13-2009, 01:26 PM
irrelevant. they were god awful decisions and piss poor throws.

and for ****'s sake, it wasn't interference.

but yes, the qb is entirely not at fault for making stupid decisions. greg olsen actually had a gun to his head, you just couldn't see it on the replay.

I can't say to much because all I have seen were the highlights and didn't watch the game but IMO Olsen didn't do much to stop that pick and it WAS interference. You have to give that o-line some credit for making Cutler duck and dodge like he wants to be Big Ben. No protection

RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES
11-13-2009, 01:33 PM
oh horse****. it was clearly inadvertent contact as the defender made a play on the ball.

("Actions that do not constitute pass interference include but are not limited to:

(a) Incidental contact by a defenderís hands, arms, or body when both players are competing for the ball, or neither player is looking for the ball. If there is any question whether contact is incidental, the ruling shall be no interference." (1 (http://www.footballscrimmage.com/nfl/pass-interference.shtml)))

and why should olsen have to do ANYTHING to stop the pick? cutler threw a crappy pass that got intercepted. i don't know why everyone here is in such a rush to excuse some really, really sloppy play.

I am not trying to say everything that happens bad with Cutler isn't his fault. I am simply saying 2 of those picks weren't 100% his fault

Jvig43
11-13-2009, 01:36 PM
oh horse****. it was clearly inadvertent contact as the defender made a play on the ball.

("Actions that do not constitute pass interference include but are not limited to:

(a) Incidental contact by a defenderís hands, arms, or body when both players are competing for the ball, or neither player is looking for the ball. If there is any question whether contact is incidental, the ruling shall be no interference." (1 (http://www.footballscrimmage.com/nfl/pass-interference.shtml)))

and why should olsen have to do ANYTHING to stop the pick? cutler threw a crappy pass that got intercepted. i don't know why everyone here is in such a rush to excuse some really, really sloppy play.

I can understand the fans, if I gave up that much for a guy who many expected to complete this team in terms of a SB team, I would most likely be defending him as well. Maybe not to this point but I'm sure there would be some homerish bias. However the non bear fans defending him, idk how you could watch this guys decisions and throws and try to justify that 100% of his picks arent his fault.

RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES
11-13-2009, 01:41 PM
I can understand the fans, if I gave up that much for a guy who many expected to complete this team in terms of a SB team, I would most likely be defending him as well. Maybe not to this point but I'm sure there would be some homerish bias. However the non bear fans defending him, idk how you could watch this guys decisions and throws and try to justify that 100% of his picks arent his fault.

Do you really believe that he would make those same passes if he had a better o-line or a decent receiver on his team?

Jvig43
11-13-2009, 01:47 PM
Do you really believe that he would make those same passes if he had a better o-line or a decent receiver on his team?

Um yes, because the guy has done that for the majority of his career. How many times have you seen this guy play. It amazes me how many people act like this was never an issue, I mean, to quote a man greater than myself, "HOW HAS NOBODY NOTICED THIS, I FEEL LIKE IM TAKING FREAKIN CRAZY PILLS HERE!".

Jvig43
11-13-2009, 02:03 PM
Cutler has a big game next week and all the bears/cutler defenders will try to rub it in everyone else's faces.

Shiver
11-13-2009, 02:12 PM
Cutler, in his typical fashion, will probably have a fantastic performance next week.

Gay Ork Wang
11-13-2009, 02:27 PM
Cutler has a big game next week and all the bears/cutler defenders will try to rub it in everyone else's faces.
i mean i know he deserves a lot of criticism but you are making him to have like he had a 2 completion game

terribletowel39
11-13-2009, 03:10 PM
It isn't quite as bad but the game Derek Anderson completed 2 passes, he had 1 INT to go with it and his QB rating was 15.1. Last night Cutler completed 23 passes and had 5 INTs, his QB Rating was 33.6. It was almost as bad.

Gay Ork Wang
11-13-2009, 03:22 PM
how many tries did Derek Anderson had?

terribletowel39
11-13-2009, 03:28 PM
17 attempts for DA. I think Cutler had like 52 or something like that last night.

iowatreat54
11-13-2009, 03:28 PM
I'm sorry but any of you who think people thought the Bears would contend for a Super Bowl this year just because of Cutler are morons. The only people who thought the Bears had a chance at the Super Bowl this year shouldn't have a job or should stop watching football, because they are a bunch of talentless mouth breathers. Hell, most Chicago fans only expected us to compete for the division and hoped to make the playoffs, so I don't know where anyone is getting the whole, "well they gave up so much and expected to win everything immediately," mentality because I'm pretty sure you are just making it up.

And to soybean, Mark Sanchez get's **** for throwing 5 picks because he hasn't proven ****. Cutler has thrown for almost 12000 yards, has a career completion percentage of 63%, and has thrown more TDs than picks every season in his career. Yes he has thrown a lot of INTs, but until Sanchez proves he can do anything in the NFL you are just coming up with a baseless argument because the 2 players are not comparable right now.

And for the record, I think Cutler hasn't been great this year, but some people need to stop writing off his career and talking about how the trade was horrible 10 games into a season.

CC.SD
11-13-2009, 04:42 PM
Jay Cutler is so wasted right now. Like, at this very moment.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
11-13-2009, 05:12 PM
Jay Cutler is so wasted right now. Like, at this very moment.

He played last night in reverse hangover mode.

bored of education
11-13-2009, 07:31 PM
Eddie Royal needs Cutler more than Cutler needs Eddie Royal. For those who are slow, I am saying that its not the receivers fault. Eddie Royal is still one of the greatest human beings on the face of the earth. Cutler is looking Jamarcus Andersonesque.

I really want to make njx go off on a rant and bring up some crazy ideas so that he can just rape my existance. njx, anything to offer about my comments that you could just own?

what if i infract myself again?

vikes_28
11-13-2009, 07:35 PM
If the vikings lose this weekend.... Well, just used your imagination.

Paranoidmoonduck
11-13-2009, 07:47 PM
This is Oakland's last truly winnable game until week 16. How awful.

Bucs_Rule
11-13-2009, 07:53 PM
Oakland beat Philly, so you never know.

Jvig43
11-13-2009, 08:34 PM
i mean i know he deserves a lot of criticism but you are making him to have like he had a 2 completion game

No this time I'm being serious, I really think he is going to have a big game next week, I just have a feeling he wont be playing close to this bad twice in a row, just because of how much ive hated on him. But who knows in the nfl.

CC.SD
11-13-2009, 08:41 PM
ugh, the media is picking the Chargers again. We all know what this means.

NOLAFan
11-13-2009, 08:41 PM
Wow i can't believe people argue with such intensity over Cutler being a terrible or a good QB.

I have a double-sided opinion when it comes to the man. I think all his interceptions are his fault. Crappy passes and forcing throws into double and even triple coverage is just plain stupid. Yeah you can say that his receivers are at fault for some of those INTs but at the end of the day its on Cutler. He needs to learn from these idiotic mistakes.

Now whilst the fool is just that at times, a fool, you can't blame him for the Bears offensive woes. The Bears lack any type of experienced receiver, which leads to ****** route, and drops. The other problem is the Bears have no offensive line whatsoever. They are just completely shittastic and because of that they lack the run game they had last year. This means Cutler IS THE OFFENSE. There is no other opinion for the bears on offense. Cutler is being forced to do too much, with what little he has. Does that excuse his piss poor throws? Hell no but it does present evidence that everything for the Bears offense is squarely on his shoulders for this offense to succeed.

This year can be pretty much written off as a pass for the Bears and Cutler. I mean we all know they aren't gonna give up on him this year but fans have a legit reason to be pissed and upset for all they gave up. Next year should be the barometer on Cutler and how he will work in Chicago. Lovie Smith and his motley band of coordinators are most likely gone this offseason. The next coach will hopefully be able to assess what works with Cutler and what doesn't.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
11-13-2009, 09:00 PM
I wouldn't count a last second hail mary INT. Those plays are pure toss ups. Not to say 4 INTs isn't absolutely terrible.

SenorGato
11-13-2009, 10:25 PM
Wow i can't believe people argue with such intensity over Cutler being a terrible or a good QB.

I have a double-sided opinion when it comes to the man. I think all his interceptions are his fault. Crappy passes and forcing throws into double and even triple coverage is just plain stupid. Yeah you can say that his receivers are at fault for some of those INTs but at the end of the day its on Cutler. He needs to learn from these idiotic mistakes.

Now whilst the fool is just that at times, a fool, you can't blame him for the Bears offensive woes. The Bears lack any type of experienced receiver, which leads to ****** route, and drops. The other problem is the Bears have no offensive line whatsoever. They are just completely shittastic and because of that they lack the run game they had last year. This means Cutler IS THE OFFENSE. There is no other opinion for the bears on offense. Cutler is being forced to do too much, with what little he has. Does that excuse his piss poor throws? Hell no but it does present evidence that everything for the Bears offense is squarely on his shoulders for this offense to succeed.

This year can be pretty much written off as a pass for the Bears and Cutler. I mean we all know they aren't gonna give up on him this year but fans have a legit reason to be pissed and upset for all they gave up. Next year should be the barometer on Cutler and how he will work in Chicago. Lovie Smith and his motley band of coordinators are most likely gone this offseason. The next coach will hopefully be able to assess what works with Cutler and what doesn't.

+1

Like any talented QB, he needs guys who can actually play their positions well on the same side of the field as him.

He's easily got the worst supporting cast of any franchise QB...OK maybe Stafford, who at least gets CJ.

Finz99
11-14-2009, 04:55 PM
hardly a hail mary, and assuming he does the smart thing and fires it out of bounds 2 ticks earlier, they'd have had another chance.

exactly. where are people getting this last second hail mary attempt from?

SuperMcGee
11-15-2009, 11:48 AM
My day is already ruined before it began.

Trent Edwards better not piss me off today.

Jvig43
11-15-2009, 12:02 PM
Yay I dont get to watch the Bengals Steelers for the awesomeness of the Jets Jax game. Sigh.

SuperMcGee
11-15-2009, 12:03 PM
There are some beautiful jerseys in this game.

The Unseen
11-15-2009, 12:04 PM
Sanchiception!

JT Jag
11-15-2009, 12:04 PM
Sanchiception!Holy nutbutter!

Malaka
11-15-2009, 12:04 PM
Cutlerzzz also threw pick that was completely Hester's fault if you see, Hester falls flat on his face right as Cutler threw it giving an easy pick for I believe it was Michael Lewis.

Jvig43
11-15-2009, 12:05 PM
Sanchiception!

Seriously????

Malaka
11-15-2009, 12:06 PM
Ew I got the Bucs Dolphins game.

Crickett
11-15-2009, 12:06 PM
Seriously????

Yep. Took 15 whole seconds for him to throw one.

yo123
11-15-2009, 12:06 PM
My goodness the Lions secondary is not good.

The Unseen
11-15-2009, 12:07 PM
MJD have my babies!

bernbabybern820
11-15-2009, 12:07 PM
MJD!!!!!!!

Crickett
11-15-2009, 12:08 PM
I'll take things the Jets don't have for 300 Alex.

Its today's daily double!!!! Its what the Jets don't have during week 10.


What is any way to stop Maurice Jones Drew?

yo123
11-15-2009, 12:10 PM
I hate you so much Childress.

Jvig43
11-15-2009, 12:10 PM
Ryan's pocket awareness is just awful.

SuperMcGee
11-15-2009, 12:12 PM
Brandon Marshall. Boom.

Tampa made a field goal?

ATLDirtyBirds
11-15-2009, 12:12 PM
Ugh, Matt looks terrible under pressure once again. At least no stupid picks on that drive.

SuperMcGee
11-15-2009, 12:13 PM
YES!

Fred Jackson TD pass to Leeeeeeevans!!!!

The Unseen
11-15-2009, 12:16 PM
Del Rio's risk gave the Jets a FG. Meh. Wouldn't have done it, but it wasn't an entirely bad idea. 7-3.

JT Jag
11-15-2009, 12:18 PM
Del Rio's risk gave the Jets a FG. Meh. Wouldn't have done it, but it wasn't an entirely bad idea. 7-3.I loved the call, and we had two shots to recover the onside.

The defense holding to 3 tells me that Jack knew what he was doing in trusting his defense if the onside failed... who's to say they wouldn't have gotten a FG anyway?

Malaka
11-15-2009, 12:20 PM
Ronde Barber with a blocked PAT! lol

AlexDown
11-15-2009, 12:22 PM
Hmmmm, hopefully the Jets can stop the run, but I am not hopeful.

That pass was overthrown 6 inches, would have been a TD.

d34ng3l021
11-15-2009, 12:22 PM
Ugh, Matt looks terrible under pressure once again. At least no stupid picks on that drive.

By the looks of it, it only looks like a Matt-er of time. Where is his pocket presence?!?!

UKfan
11-15-2009, 12:24 PM
TD Bernard Scott!!! Great return

yo123
11-15-2009, 12:24 PM
Thanks for handing the Lions 3 points Robison.

Edit- or maybe not.

Babylon
11-15-2009, 12:26 PM
Calvin Johnson didnt look 100% last week and doesnt this week either.

Jvig43
11-15-2009, 12:28 PM
Why would Cincy go for two?

SuperMcGee
11-15-2009, 12:29 PM
Of course Chris Johnson scores.
Quite the gaping lane, though.

It's a good thing John McCargo assists on a tackle once every 4 weeks. Otherwise I'd forget he's on this team.

Im_a_Romosexual
11-15-2009, 12:29 PM
Why would Cincy go for two?

botched snap

FuzzyGopher
11-15-2009, 12:30 PM
Why get cute there? So ***, just go with whats working. This is why we always play the Lions tight.

yo123
11-15-2009, 12:30 PM
What do you do when it's clear that a defense can't stop you?

You run unnecessary trick plays and turn the ball over!!!!!

crossroads
11-15-2009, 12:31 PM
Brandon Marshall is all kinds of awesome

SuperMcGee
11-15-2009, 12:32 PM
Brandon Marshall makes me giddy.

UKfan
11-15-2009, 12:32 PM
Percy Harvin now has -2 points on my fantasy team, awesome.

Babylon
11-15-2009, 12:33 PM
Bright move Pettigrew

The Unseen
11-15-2009, 12:33 PM
Reggie Nelson, please die.

T-RICH49
11-15-2009, 12:34 PM
Stafford may be seeing Ray Edwards in his sleep tonight

Babylon
11-15-2009, 12:34 PM
Hard to believe Stafford had a better line at Georgia.

BuckNaked
11-15-2009, 12:34 PM
I started Cutler over Orton this week ughh...oh and cotch is on my bench too he just scored..sigh.

AlexDown
11-15-2009, 12:34 PM
TD Cotchery!

The Unseen
11-15-2009, 12:34 PM
TD Cotchery.

Well, atleast I started him in fantasy.

Babylon
11-15-2009, 12:35 PM
Stafford may be seeing Ray Edwards in his sleep tonight

Many more hits like that and he'll be sleeping earlier than he'd like.

falloutboy14
11-15-2009, 12:38 PM
Polamalu tweaked his knee & is now doubtful to return.

AlexDown
11-15-2009, 12:40 PM
MJD 78 yards in first quarter....

We miss you Jenkins

SuperMcGee
11-15-2009, 12:42 PM
How is Bryan Scott covering Bo Scaife the matchup Tennessee wants?

Jvig43
11-15-2009, 12:43 PM
Polamalu tweaked his knee & is now doubtful to return.

Well there goes the steelers season.

Mr.Regular
11-15-2009, 12:43 PM
I hate the Vikings so much.... and that horn that keeps going off doesn't help the cause.

d34ng3l021
11-15-2009, 12:44 PM
What the ****!? Michael Turner has 4 carries for 70 yards, yet Ryan has 9 pass attempts? Great playcalling.

Jvig43
11-15-2009, 12:46 PM
What the ****!? Michael Turner has 4 carries for 70 yards, yet Ryan has 9 pass attempts? Great playcalling.

That should change, Ryan is all happy feet in the pocket today for some reason.

NOLAFan
11-15-2009, 12:48 PM
Damn it Saints, you can't stop the run can you? Someone get the Saints Dline a bandaid

tjsunstein
11-15-2009, 12:48 PM
I love my fantasy running backs. Chris Johnson and Ronnie Brown. Each with an early TD.

Babylon
11-15-2009, 12:48 PM
Gosder Cherilus is brutal and he may be the best on that O-line.

The Unseen
11-15-2009, 12:49 PM
Garrard runs in easily for a TD.

Paul
11-15-2009, 12:49 PM
Aside from the Vikes, are the rest of the NFC North teams competing to see who has the worse O-Line.

dpl85
11-15-2009, 12:50 PM
Abilene Christian has a lot of players in the NFL for a small school. They must run a hell of a program there getting all the athletes in Texas that get overlooked by the bigger schools for some reason.

Jvig43
11-15-2009, 12:50 PM
Aside from the Vikes, are the rest of the NFC North teams competing to see who has the worse O-Line.

The Vikes want to be fair and decided to go with the worst coaching. How is that a game right now?

tjsunstein
11-15-2009, 12:51 PM
Aside from the Vikes, are the rest of the NFC North teams competing to see who has the worse O-Line.

If you wanna call it a competition but I think Green Bay has it in the bag already.

Mr.Regular
11-15-2009, 12:51 PM
Aside from the Vikes, are the rest of the NFC North teams competing to see who has the worse O-Line.
An 'All-Star' team of the NFC North's O-Line would just be the Vikings O-Line.
How pathetic.

Babylon
11-15-2009, 12:52 PM
Aside from the Vikes, are the rest of the NFC North teams competing to see who has the worse O-Line.

Are the Bears that bad? I thought it was a draw between the Pack and the Lions. Detroit is so bad they dont even know to block their guy on a screen for even a spit second, they just get out of the way.

BuckNaked
11-15-2009, 12:54 PM
all day..omg

Babylon
11-15-2009, 12:54 PM
Abilene Christian has a lot of players in the NFL for a small school. They must run a hell of a program there getting all the athletes in Texas that get overlooked by the bigger schools for some reason.

I was thinking TCU is probably getting all the guys Texas doesnt want.

The Dynasty
11-15-2009, 12:54 PM
Now that's a typical Adrian Peterson TD run.

djp
11-15-2009, 12:54 PM
Adrian Peterson is a god

d34ng3l021
11-15-2009, 12:54 PM
Michael Turner has 9 carries for 111 yards. lol.

BuckNaked
11-15-2009, 12:55 PM
Adrian Peterson IS god

Monotheism..

Babylon
11-15-2009, 12:55 PM
Adrian Peterson is a god

I thought Calvin Johnson was a god? your god is better than their god.

FuzzyGopher
11-15-2009, 12:56 PM
Peterson is unreal.

Babylon
11-15-2009, 12:56 PM
Michael Turner has 9 carries for 111 yards. lol.

And you were worried about the playcalling.

tjsunstein
11-15-2009, 12:56 PM
Abilene Christian has a lot of players in the NFL for a small school. They must run a hell of a program there getting all the athletes in Texas that get overlooked by the bigger schools for some reason.

And Bethuane-Cookman. Combine both of those schools and they have more talent in the NFL than Baylor for whatever it's worth.

scottyboy
11-15-2009, 12:57 PM
see, games like this are why I love MJD. he's an ANIMAL!

dpl85
11-15-2009, 12:58 PM
I was thinking TCU is probably getting all the guys Texas doesnt want.
Texas is so big that even smaller schools get good and maybe the occasional great athlete.