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Bosanac01
11-14-2009, 04:52 PM
Maybe a little pre-mature but it's never too early to discuss the most viewed sporting event in the world. There are some heated battles for the last several spots left.

Playoffs first leg:
(home team on the left)

Portugal 1-0 Bosnia
Ireland 0-1 France
Greece 0-0 Ukraine
Russia 2-1 Slovenia

There were more games, those 4 were the ones I had my eye on.

Discuss the World Cup here.

Stranger
11-14-2009, 04:55 PM
Maybe a little pre-mature but it's never too early to discuss the most viewed sporting event in the world. There are some heated battles for the last several spots left.

Playoffs first leg:
(home team on the left)

Portugal 1-0 Bosnia
Ireland 0-1 France
Greece 0-0 Ukraine
Russia 2-1 Slovenia

There were more games, those 4 were the ones I had my eye on.

Discuss the World Cup here.

New Zealand made it in last night. Winning 1-0 at home over
Bahrain.

MetSox17
11-14-2009, 04:55 PM
It's gonna be pathetic if Portugal doesn't qualify. I'm gonna be rooting hard for Mexico. Gio Dos Santos and Carlos Vela have been on a rip, so has Guardado and Blanco always plays pretty well. Just hope we get a good draw.

Bosanac01
11-14-2009, 04:58 PM
I'm hoping Portugal doesn't qualify, I'm Bosnian. I know the whole world is rooting for Portugal though. Fifa will not be happy if the best player in the world is not in their world cup.

Bosanac01
11-14-2009, 04:59 PM
New Zealand made it in last night. Winning 1-0 at home over
Bahrain.

I seen that game, it was like 4 am here. I had to keep reminding myself it's live.

MetSox17
11-14-2009, 05:01 PM
Meh, i like Ronaldo as much as the next guy, but i'd still take Messi over him.

Rosebud
11-14-2009, 05:03 PM
I'm hoping Portugal doesn't qualify, I'm Bosnian. I know the whole world is rooting for Portugal though. Fifa will not be happy if the best player in the world is not in their world cup.

I'll laugh, Portugal is constantly over-rated. They're like Brazil without the all around stacked roster and understanding of how to play their roles. That said they have great individual talents and if things come together like they did for spain in 2008 they very well could go home with the cup. I'm just not going to bet on that happening.

I want to see Russia qualify because they were so much fun to watch at the european cup.

Also going to go ahead and start making premature predictions and say Germany finally finishes a tournament this time around. Even with the recent passing of Robert Enke they're finally strong in net again and have a lot of young talent waiting in the wings on an already good team.

dabears10
11-14-2009, 05:10 PM
I'm hoping Portugal doesn't qualify, I'm Bosnian. I know the whole world is rooting for Portugal though. Fifa will not be happy if the best player in the world is not in their world cup.

Screw Christiano Ronaldo. I hope they miss the finals.

Bosanac01
11-14-2009, 05:19 PM
Well the second leg is in Bosnia, Portugal has the 1-0 advantage however. If you seen the first leg today, Bosnia should have tied the game. They hit the cross bar 3 times, and the post once as well.

Mr.Regular
11-14-2009, 06:35 PM
I watched the Ireland/France game today... pretty pissed Ireland lost. They played really well and had a ton of scoring chances. So I'm assuming they have to win by at least 2 next game to qualify?

Pretty weak that the Irish have to play France. Both are top ranked teams, no?

Bosanac01
11-14-2009, 06:43 PM
Pretty weak that the Irish have to play France. Both are top ranked teams, no?

By FIFA world rankings:

(#10) Portugal 1-0 Bosnia (#42)
(#34) Ireland 0-1 France (#9)
(#16)Greece 0-0 Ukraine (#22)
(#12)Russia 2-1 Slovenia (#49)

9. France (won)
10. Portugal (won)
12. Russia (won)
16. Greece

22. Ukraine
34. Ireland (lost)
42. Bosnia (lost)
49. Slovenia (lost)

FIFA wants the best teams in the world cup, but it's just ********.

Giantsfan1080
11-14-2009, 06:49 PM
The draws for the World Cup are always questionable. The draws to get into the Cup are as well.

JRTPlaya21
11-14-2009, 06:56 PM
I'll laugh, Portugal is constantly over-rated. They're like Brazil without the all around stacked roster and understanding of how to play their roles. That said they have great individual talents and if things come together like they did for spain in 2008 they very well could go home with the cup. I'm just not going to bet on that happening.

I want to see Russia qualify because they were so much fun to watch at the european cup.

Also going to go ahead and start making premature predictions and say Germany finally finishes a tournament this time around. Even with the recent passing of Robert Enke they're finally strong in net again and have a lot of young talent waiting in the wings on an already good team.

I'm gonna make a prediction and say that it won't come true because a European team has never won it on foreign soil. But there is always a first for everything.

JRTPlaya21
11-14-2009, 07:00 PM
By FIFA world rankings:

(#10) Portugal 1-0 Bosnia (#42)
(#34) Ireland 0-1 France (#9)
(#16)Greece 0-0 Ukraine (#22)
(#12)Russia 2-1 Slovenia (#49)

9. France (won)
10. Portugal (won)
12. Russia (won)
16. Greece

22. Ukraine
34. Ireland (lost)
42. Bosnia (lost)
49. Slovenia (lost)

you have to think there is something fishy with these drawings. FIFA wants the best teams in the world cup, but it's just ********.

I think I read somewhere that FIFA does it based on past reputation. So we basically had no chance in hell of seeing France v Portugal in a match up. They want to have the best revenue possible for South Africa. Quite sad. But if these smaller countries want an equal oppurtunity then they will need to win their groups during qualifications.

RoyHall#1
11-14-2009, 07:29 PM
Subscribing. <3 World Cup

thefalconer
11-14-2009, 07:47 PM
the qualification matches are drawn with some kind of seeding system. so it greatly hinders a cinderella-esque team to qualify.

"The draw for the second round play-offs was held in Zürich on 19 October, and the matches will be played on 14 and 18 November 2009. The eight teams were seeded according to the FIFA World Rankings released on 16 October. The top four teams were seeded into one pot, with the bottom four teams seeded into a second. A separate draw was conducted between each matchup to decide who will host the first leg."

-via wikipediathebestthingeverontheinterwebzzzz

Bosanac01
11-14-2009, 08:10 PM
fifa also does it's best to get the bigger name countries to advance after the games are set. Bosnia got 4 yellow cards against portugal today. Call it coincidence, but 3 of those four players will not play in the second leg. Those 3 are all defenders and the 3 oldest/most experienced players on the bosnian squad, as well as their captain. If anyone seen the game, you'll be amazed by the amount of simulations/dives by the portugalians.

Caddy
11-14-2009, 09:05 PM
Australia FTW!

If only we didn't concede that penalty to Italy in the last minute last world cup. We were all over the eventual Champ's and had a solid chance of beating them in extra time.

Rosebud
11-14-2009, 09:21 PM
Australia FTW!

If only we didn't concede that penalty to Italy in the last minute last world cup. We were all over the eventual Champ's and had a solid chance of beating them in extra time.

Yeah, **** you guys, if you guys don't let italy back in germany ends their drought.

MaxV
11-14-2009, 09:33 PM
Man, Russia gave up a very unlucky goal at the end to win 2-1.

It won't be easy in Slovenia on Wednesday. I hope they qualify.

Bosanac01
11-14-2009, 09:41 PM
Slovenia really pressured Russia at the end there, they're lucky they only allowed one goal, man that russian goalie is ******* amazing.

MaxV
11-14-2009, 10:00 PM
Akinfeev is one of the top goaltenders in the world. He's only 23 too.

Slovenia impressed me. Very disciplined team.

MaxV
11-14-2009, 10:08 PM
Uruguay beat Costa Rica on the road in the first leg 1-0 tonight.

That late goal by USA in the last game was absolutely devastating for Costa Rica.

They would've qualified with a win.

BTW, there is one more playoff game added for Wednesday. Egypt will play Algeria in Sudan to decide the last qualifier out of Africa.

Todd Bertuzzi
11-14-2009, 11:07 PM
Go Netherlands!

http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/files/2008/12/ruud-van-nistelrooy_knvb_groot.jpg
<3

Bosanac01
11-14-2009, 11:26 PM
i love netherlands, patrick kluivert was one of my fav players growing up.

brat316
11-14-2009, 11:38 PM
USA!!!????

critesy
11-15-2009, 03:01 AM
i love netherlands, patrick kluivert was one of my fav players growing up.

tell me about it. i love kluivert. i hate ruud though. can not stand him. im all holland this world cup (again). got my orange kluivert jersey and everything.

UKfan
11-15-2009, 04:57 AM
WAR ANYONE BUT ENGLAND! (I don't think I could deal with all the idiot In-Ger-Lund fans if we win it)

Gay Ork Wang
11-15-2009, 05:35 AM
WAR ANYONE BUT ENGLAND! (I don't think I could deal with all the idiot In-Ger-Lund fans if we win it)
thats fine, cause you never will

UKfan
11-15-2009, 07:02 AM
OK, I also dont want Germany to win! :-)

djp
11-15-2009, 08:30 AM
I think Spain is going to win it, especially if Torres can stay healthy.

God it's scary that Messi is still only 22 years old.

Gay Ork Wang
11-15-2009, 08:43 AM
i dont think spain is gonna win it.

Wootylicous
11-15-2009, 09:00 AM
Spainnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn !

Fernando Torres <3

Wootylicous
11-15-2009, 09:02 AM
as much as I love Spain Brazil is gonna win this thing.

Giantsfan1080
11-15-2009, 11:08 AM
My suprise is that one of the African countries like Ivory Coast or Ghana make it to the final 4 teams.

gsorace
11-15-2009, 11:11 AM
http://www.learnitalianpod.com/wp-content/themes/three/images/worldCup_Italy.jpg

JRTPlaya21
11-15-2009, 11:16 AM
Thank you Giantsfan! I was also ecstatic to see Nigeria & Cameroon qualify. This World Cup is going to be stacked.

Bosanac01
11-15-2009, 01:44 PM
I always love watching the african countries play, however they are unmatched with the european and south american countries. Africans love to run, they have a lot of speed and they like to play physical. You try playing a country like italy or portugal, and see how much flopping there will be.

JeffSamardzijaIRISH
11-15-2009, 03:40 PM
Brazil will win this one. Much less of a focus on superstars on this Brazil squad than the '06 and '02 teams which should lead to much better chemistry. This Brazil team is just scary going forward in the counter attack with Kaka, Robinho, and Luis Fabiano. Ramirez is a perfect player for this team with his passing ability and skills as he is the key to transitioning. He's a sort of player they haven't had in a while, a Xavi type player instead of all the flair and flash that normally runs the attacks.

Rosebud
11-15-2009, 03:58 PM
Brazil will win this one. Much less of a focus on superstars on this Brazil squad than the '06 and '02 teams which should lead to much better chemistry. This Brazil team is just scary going forward in the counter attack with Kaka, Robinho, and Luis Fabiano. Ramirez is a perfect player for this team with his passing ability and skills as he is the key to transitioning. He's a sort of player they haven't had in a while, a Xavi type player instead of all the flair and flash that normally runs the attacks.

I think their back line is weaker than it has been in the past and that's my concern with brazil. That and whether they'll bring their "A" game every game.

UKfan
11-15-2009, 04:42 PM
If I had to predict now, which seems silly but anyway, I would probably go for Spain. However I think the Dutch are due for a good tournament, they looked very good qualifying and seem much more of a cohesive unit.

Gay Ork Wang
11-15-2009, 04:50 PM
If I had to predict now, which seems silly but anyway, I would probably go for Spain. However I think the Dutch are due for a good tournament, they looked very good qualifying and seem much more of a cohesive unit.
thats who i think will have a good game. if they play like they did in the Euro Preliminaries, they are up for a great tournament

Bosanac01
11-17-2009, 01:46 AM
5,000 Bosnians made the trip to Portugal for the first leg in Lisbon (Nov 14), they reserved hotels, bought tickets early. 2,000 fans were not allowed in the stadium, which holds 65,000.

On Sunday (Nov 15), the Portuguese soccer team arrived in Bosnia for the second leg. After a long flight they were looking to get to the hotel and get a good nights sleep. In retaliation, the bosnian fans crowded around the small hotel where the player were at and they used airhorns and all kinds of noisemakers so the players would not be able to sleep. This lasted the entire night till the mourning. The Portuguese managers are filing a complain to fifa for this. It's not the first time bosnians are gonna get fined.

Good stuff, i had a laugh.

iowatreat54
11-17-2009, 01:49 AM
I really hope Bosnia can knock Portugal out.

I hate Ronald sooo much and could really go for a World Cup sans him spending more time falling down than doing anything productive.

Bosanac01
11-17-2009, 01:53 AM
the whole Portuguese is a joke. All they are is a bunch of floppers. They think they're that good, yea they have speed and technique, but they play the game the wrong way. The said this is, teams like this make it very far. Just look at italy, they won the whole thing.

7-11
11-17-2009, 01:55 AM
Yeah, **** you guys, if you guys don't let italy back in germany ends their drought.

Wasn't our fault

9CQf4zYJ2fY

MetSox17
11-17-2009, 01:55 AM
Brazil will win this one. Much less of a focus on superstars on this Brazil squad than the '06 and '02 teams which should lead to much better chemistry. This Brazil team is just scary going forward in the counter attack with Kaka, Robinho, and Luis Fabiano. Ramirez is a perfect player for this team with his passing ability and skills as he is the key to transitioning. He's a sort of player they haven't had in a while, a Xavi type player instead of all the flair and flash that normally runs the attacks.

Not to mention Pato, who has quickly become one of the best young players in the world. Seriously, Brazil is so ridiculously loaded with talent, it would be an embarrassment of them not to win.

iowatreat54
11-17-2009, 02:04 AM
the whole Portuguese is a joke. All they are is a bunch of floppers. They think they're that good, yea they have speed and technique, but they play the game the wrong way. The said this is, teams like this make it very far. Just look at italy, they won the whole thing.

Yea, it's just very angering because you look at teams like Portugal and Italy, who are very talented, yet they resort to flopping and complaining when they really don't need to. I know Italy just won 3.5 years ago, but if both those teams spent half as much time actually playing as they do being female cats, they would find it easier to win and would be more fun to watch.

Instead, they force fans to hope their plane crashes. Just kidding...but not really.

Bosanac01
11-17-2009, 02:12 AM
Wasn't our fault

9CQf4zYJ2fY

damn he crushed him. I hope that player is ok.

Bosanac01
11-17-2009, 02:21 AM
who doesn't want this in the world cup?

92h9CyHpMkg&NR=1

lol, he also grabs the wrong leg.

Bosanac01
11-18-2009, 02:42 PM
Bosnia and Portugal are scoreless after 45. The second half will be crazy!!

Mr.Regular
11-18-2009, 03:20 PM
What happens if Ireladn holds on for the 1-0 win? Then the aggregate score will be 1-1?

Sorry I dont know much about soccer

MaxV
11-18-2009, 03:45 PM
What happens if Ireladn holds on for the 1-0 win? Then the aggregate score will be 1-1?

Sorry I dont know much about soccer

This game would go to OT.

No Russia in the WC. :(

Bye Hiddink, it was nice knowing you.

Bosanac01
11-18-2009, 03:48 PM
No Bosnia in world cup. :(. They didn't have 4 players from the 1st leg.

Today has been crazy, all went completely wrong. Greece sucks. Slovenia knocked out russia.

7-11
11-18-2009, 03:56 PM
This game would go to OT.

No Russia in the WC. :(

Bye Hiddink, it was nice knowing you.

We'll have you back Guus! Well, after this world cup

Wootylicous
11-18-2009, 04:03 PM
Domenech must leave.

France better pull this out though.

MaxV
11-18-2009, 04:10 PM
No goal.

Good call by the ref. That was off-sides.

I want to see penalties.

MaxV
11-18-2009, 04:11 PM
So much for that.

France scores.

Wootylicous
11-18-2009, 04:12 PM
FRANCEEEEEEEEE

yes!

MaxV
11-18-2009, 04:13 PM
Oh wow, that was a hand ball.

Ireland has a legit beef.

This will stir up MAJOR controversy.

Wootylicous
11-18-2009, 04:13 PM
Henry doing his best maradona impression lol

Mr.Regular
11-18-2009, 04:14 PM
Ahhhh what happened?!? I see France scored but Im not watching the game live.

Wootylicous
11-18-2009, 04:14 PM
GALLAS!!

frenchies yay

MaxV
11-18-2009, 04:16 PM
Ahhhh what happened?!? I see France scored but Im not watching the game live.

After a free kick, Henry stopped the ball with his hand and scored.

Ireland's goalie stormed towards the ref pointed to his hand, but the goal stood.

On the replay it was VERY clear that Henry stopped the ball from going out of bounds with his hand and actually kinda held it for a little bit before redirecting it to his leg and scoring.

Replay also showed that a French player was off-sides also. Double whammy.

JRTPlaya21
11-18-2009, 04:21 PM
Of course the French find a way to cheat. Kinda bummed that Russia & Egypt are staying home.

Mr.Regular
11-18-2009, 04:22 PM
After a free kick, Henry stopped the ball with his hand and scored.

Ireland's goalie stormed towards the ref pointed to his hand, but the goal stood.

On the replay it was VERY clear that Henry stopped the ball from going out of bounds with his hand and actually kinda held it for a little bit before redirecting it to his leg and scoring.

Replay also showed that a French player was off-sides also. Double whammy.
Wow. That ******* sucks. I don`t follow soccer that closely but it seems like FIFA and the refs love the "big countries" more than NFL refs love the Steelers. Weak...

MaxV
11-18-2009, 04:23 PM
LOL, a shot of Zidane and Bartez enjoying the game from the stands.

They look like twins.

Wootylicous
11-18-2009, 04:23 PM
Cheat ? Come on the ref called the goal good. Blame him.

MaxV
11-18-2009, 04:26 PM
I'm wondering what happens if Ireland scores now.

Do they go to penalty kicks? Or does Ireland advance because they scored more goals on the road?

JRTPlaya21
11-18-2009, 04:27 PM
Ha I don't mind France going through. I want them to. But they should have done it without help of a handball. Bad reffing indeed.

JRTPlaya21
11-18-2009, 04:27 PM
Ireland would advance.

Bosanac01
11-18-2009, 04:36 PM
yea, that would be crazy. All ireland needs to do is score a goal and they advance. It's kinda like france is up 1.5-1 right now. No shot at penalties.

JRTPlaya21
11-18-2009, 04:37 PM
Wow that goal was very disgusting. Instant replay ftw?

MaxV
11-18-2009, 04:38 PM
That ref better not come anywhere near Ireland.

thefalconer
11-18-2009, 04:38 PM
such ********. heartbreak for irish fans.
**** france. **** henry. douchebags.
i wanted to see robbie keane break henry's leg or something.

JRTPlaya21
11-18-2009, 04:39 PM
Just another Barca scumbag now.

Bosanac01
11-18-2009, 09:49 PM
I saw that french goal, and it's just horrible. Not offsides but definitely a hand ball. You can't say the french robbed irish, but more like the referee robbed the irish. He should have given henry a card but totally missed. Players can do what they want, but it's referee's job to see everything.

MaxV
11-19-2009, 07:20 AM
I saw that french goal, and it's just horrible. Not offsides but definitely a hand ball. You can't say the french robbed irish, but more like the referee robbed the irish. He should have given henry a card but totally missed. Players can do what they want, but it's referee's job to see everything.

Henry wasn't off-sides, but there was another French player who during the kick was off-sides and I believe he made the play on the ball before it got to Henry.

Just a MAJOR all-around **** up by the refs.

619
11-19-2009, 08:47 AM
Portugal is in, YES! I wasn't able to catch the second leg, but impressive nonetheless considering the Ronaldo injury. The depth on this team was an original concern of mine, and it still is, though it doesn't look like it's as much of an issue anymore with the core of the team remaining.

To be honest, I don't really know what to make of this team, and I've tempered my expectations for next year's WC accordingly. We just haven't been able to dominate our inferior competition like we have in the past - this is not the same overly talented team I've always known. Maybe that's a good thing, maybe they actually do something significant on the world stage now that no one's expecting very much out of them.

AntoinCD
11-19-2009, 11:25 AM
Squillaci was offside for the France free kick and he was who it was aimed at. Henry hand balled not only once but twice. I dont mind that because it happens in games its just hard to take. I hated when he went over to console Richard Dunne at the end though. Arrogant prat. Dunne shouldve offered to fight him but then again Henry probably wouldve surrendered.

MaxV
11-19-2009, 12:18 PM
Ireland demands a replay of the game.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=700747&sec=worldcup2010&cc=5901

In 2005, the world's governing body invalidated the result of a World Cup qualifier between Uzbekistan and Bahrain following a referee's critical error.

There is a precedent for it.



I think the game should be replayed, but I don't think it will happen.

MaxV
11-19-2009, 12:29 PM
For those that didn't see it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lqhJe88fME

iowatreat54
11-19-2009, 12:35 PM
The refs did royally screw Ireland.

That said, Ireland really lost the game for themselves in regulation. They had a handful of chances to put the game away after being up 1-0, including multiple break aways, and just couldn't do it.

I doubt FIFA allows a replay where one of it's golden children was benefited.

Bosanac01
11-19-2009, 01:32 PM
You can't blame henry for anything. He's an experienced player, and he knows how to win. The Irish could have done the same thing, but only if the ref didn't see it.

sweetness34
11-19-2009, 02:48 PM
At first glance I thought the ball may have played Henry's hand but after watching it a couple more times Henry clearly used his arm to control the ball.

Plus, it should have been offsides. The passive offside rule is only in effect when the player is not involved in the play. I clearly thought that the French player who was offsides was directly involved in that play.

I feel really bad for Ireland. Two blown calls on the same play and they knocked them out of the World Cup. I think this is going to be right up there with Maradona's "Hand of God."

MetSox17
11-19-2009, 02:52 PM
You can't really be upset at the offsides. Refs miss that sometimes, especially when they're close plays. What was just plain ridiculous was the Henry hand ball. He literally slapped that thing. How you miss that is pathetic. He should have gotten a red.

Bosanac01
11-20-2009, 01:09 AM
the referee was not in a good position to see it. I bet he feels like **** right now.

Wootylicous
11-20-2009, 02:58 PM
http://www.jeu-de-main.com/

hilarious.

MaxV
11-26-2009, 09:39 PM
Chile faces 2010 WC ban.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=704433&sec=world&cc=5901

I hope this won't happen. The whole country shouldn't suffer just because one team has beef.

It'll be complete BS if FIFA ends up doing this.

JT Jag
11-26-2009, 09:49 PM
I'm hoping Portugal doesn't qualify, I'm Bosnian. I know the whole world is rooting for Portugal though. Fifa will not be happy if the best player in the world is not in their world cup.Messi > Ronaldo

Messi isn't a mercenary *****.

MaxV
12-01-2009, 04:25 PM
32-team breakdown of the World Cup nations.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/story/_/id/4683358/ce/us/breaking-all-32-teams-finals-draw?cc=5901&ver=us

I don't really understand why USA is in 4th Drawing Pot.

USA has qualified for every WC tournament since 1990. During that time USA has a quarterfinals and 2 elimination round appearances.

If it's really decided by past history then I don't understand why Slovakia, Slovenia, Denmark and Serbia are in 2nd Pot.

dabears10
12-01-2009, 04:31 PM
32-team breakdown of the World Cup nations.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/story/_/id/4683358/ce/us/breaking-all-32-teams-finals-draw?cc=5901&ver=us

I don't really understand why USA is in 4th Drawing Pot.

USA has qualified for every WC tournament since 1990. During that time USA has a quarterfinals and 2 elimination round appearances.

If it's really decided by past history then I don't understand why Slovakia, Slovenia, Denmark and Serbia are in 2nd Pot.

It mostly only matters for the 1st pot. After that they usually just group confederations together so UEFA doesnt have 3 team in one group or CONCACAF have 2 teams in the same group.

iowatreat54
12-01-2009, 04:38 PM
Yes, notice how after pot 1, pots 2-4 are all teams from the same region or 2 regions. They split it up so that there is no way you have one group with 3 or 4 teams from the same qualifying region.

So, there will be one team from pot 1, one team from Africa/South America, one team from Europe, and one team from Americas/Asia.

JRTPlaya21
12-01-2009, 05:51 PM
WC 2010 ball

http://www.footballshirtculture.com/balls/adidas-jabulani-world-cup-2010-match-ball.html

MaxV
12-01-2009, 06:30 PM
Oh that makes sense, thanks for the explanation guys.

Raiderz4Life
12-01-2009, 06:47 PM
Honestly unless Argentina gets extremely lucky they might not make it out of the 1st round. Messi won't do it for them. Maradona needs to get the boot ASAP.

btw...does anyone know where i can get a Real Madrid Ronaldo jersey? Not C. Ronaldo but Brazilian Ronaldo

Caddy
12-01-2009, 07:00 PM
Portugal and Netherlands in Pot 2 could prove to be a huge problem for a lot of teams. Imagine having to play both Brazil and Holland for example. Not ideal.

wicket
12-01-2009, 07:39 PM
Portugal and Netherlands in Pot 2 could prove to be a huge problem for a lot of teams. Imagine having to play both Brazil and Holland for example. Not ideal.

Im so bummed the Netherlands are in the second pot. They are bleeding 4th on the Fifa ranking. what is the point of having the ranking if you dont use it.
I already see it happening: Germany, Holland, Uruguay and Mexico. Even when we would make it out of the first stage all our players would be injured.

Raiderz4Life
12-01-2009, 07:50 PM
Im so bummed the Netherlands are in the second pot. They are bleeding 4th on the Fifa ranking. what is the point of having the ranking if you dont use it.
I already see it happening: Germany, Holland, Uruguay and Mexico. Even when we would make it out of the first stage all our players would be injured.

The FIFA rankings are a joke. They're ok for getting a vague idea of what the teams have done and stuff but they shouldn't be taken seriously.

wicket
12-01-2009, 07:53 PM
The FIFA rankings are a joke. They're ok for getting a vague idea of what the teams have done and stuff but they shouldn't be taken seriously.

thats partially my point. Its all good and well that we are high but its partially based on dominating the qualifying groups in recent years and that is not really epic by any means. yeah we can consistently beat andorra. yay us!

wicket
12-02-2009, 01:44 PM
32-team breakdown of the World Cup nations.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/story/_/id/4683358/ce/us/breaking-all-32-teams-finals-draw?cc=5901&ver=us

I don't really understand why USA is in 4th Drawing Pot.

USA has qualified for every WC tournament since 1990. During that time USA has a quarterfinals and 2 elimination round appearances.

If it's really decided by past history then I don't understand why Slovakia, Slovenia, Denmark and Serbia are in 2nd Pot.

these are the wrong drawing pots:
correct one:
Pot 1 (seeds): South Africa, Germany, Brazil, Italy, Spain, England, Argentina, Holland.

Pot 2 (Asia, Oceania and North/Central America) : Japan, South Korea, North Korea, Australia, New Zealand, USA, Mexico, Honduras.

Pot 3 (Africa and South America): Ivory Coast, Ghana, Cameroon, Nigeria, Algeria, Paraguay, Chile, Uruguay.

Pot 4 (Europe): France, Portugal, Slovenia, Switzerland, Greece, Serbia, Denmark, Slovakia.

Always nice thing to do. Toughest group possible imo:
Argentina,Mexico,Ivory Coast, France
(a lesser team out of pot 1 makes it more balanced and therefore more killing)

Weakest possibl troup:
South Africa, Algeria, Slovakia, North Korea

Giantsfan1080
12-02-2009, 01:45 PM
Those were the ones ESPN predicted before FIFA actually released them.

dabears10
12-02-2009, 01:56 PM
Toughest Group:
England, Mexico, Uruguay, France

Weakest Group:
South Africa, North Korea, Algeria, Slovakia.
same as wicket for it.

MaxV
12-02-2009, 06:07 PM
France, despite making the final in last tournament, didn't get seated in the 1st pool?

Interesting.

dabears10
12-02-2009, 06:10 PM
France, despite making the final in last tournament, didn't get seated in the 1st pool?

Interesting.

They barely squeaked in on qualifying.

MaxV
12-02-2009, 06:14 PM
They barely squeaked in on qualifying.

Same can be said for Argentina. I thought past tournament performances were the determining factor.

dabears10
12-02-2009, 06:15 PM
Same can be said for Argentina. I thought past tournament performances were the determining factor.

Id imagine the Henry fiasco had a lot to do with it. Also, 2 cups ago they didnt leave the first round if I remember correctly. They lost to senegal right?

Fred Savage
12-02-2009, 08:56 PM
Should be Spain's to lose imo. Can't wait for this world cup.

Fred Savage
12-02-2009, 08:59 PM
I'm hoping Portugal doesn't qualify, I'm Bosnian. I know the whole world is rooting for Portugal though. Fifa will not be happy if the best player in the world is not in their world cup.

Lionel Messi is playing.

Raiderz4Life
12-02-2009, 09:25 PM
Should be Spain's to lose imo. Can't wait for this world cup.

I don't agree...I think Spain will make some noise but they're not the clear cut favorite....its always hard to predict because there are always so many surprises in the WC but if anything its Brazil's to lose.

BTW...I think Messi is slightly overrated and would take C. Ronaldo over him.

sweetness34
12-02-2009, 09:32 PM
I'd take Ronaldo over Messi any day of the week, although Messi is still an awesome player.

I'm predicting USA and England in the same group.

Bosanac01
12-02-2009, 10:11 PM
Lionel Messi is playing.

I agree with you. Messi to me is the better soccer player, but I believe most people will go with ronaldo.

I love Messi's style of play much better than ronaldo. Obviously both are great players, but I think ronaldo flops way too much. Messi plays hard and gets up quick after getting knocked down, despite being much smaller than ronaldo.

Dr.Acula
12-02-2009, 10:30 PM
I can wait for the draw, ever since the last world cup I have gotten really into soccer so much so that it is probably the sport I follow the closest now. As a fan of the US I hope they get into a group where they have a decent shot to advance onto the knockout stages, but I guess I will find out soon enough.

Raiderz4Life
12-02-2009, 11:37 PM
I've noticed Messi has problems playing against the elite teams where Ronaldo always played in a consistent manner.

Hopefully the US wont get a group that's as tough as the one from last WC...Ghana Czech Rep and Italy were all really formidable opponents

Fred Savage
12-03-2009, 10:37 AM
I cannot stand C. Ronaldo. He might be my least favorite athlete in the world. Every game I have seen him play, he dances around with the ball, flops and doesn't contribute as much as he should.

My prediction for this World Cup, an African nation will make the final four.

Still think Spain has way too much fire power all the way around and their defense can hold up. Torres, Villa, Inesta, Xavi, Fabergas, David Silva, Sergio Ramos coming up from defense. Plus they have that tall striker that comes off the bench that can put it in the net. Plus their D can play at a high level and Casillias is a great goalie. Can't wait till friday.

JRTPlaya21
12-03-2009, 11:54 AM
Can't believe you left out Puyol & Pique. smh lol. I want them to win but a European team has NEVER won on foreign soil. Something has gotta give, but I could see a darkhorse taking the cup.

Raiderz4Life
12-03-2009, 12:39 PM
Can't believe you left out Puyol & Pique. smh lol. I want them to win but a European team has NEVER won on foreign soil. Something has gotta give, but I could see a darkhorse taking the cup.

Yea Puyol is a monster lol But Brazil has just as much fire power and their D ain't no slouch either...plus Julio Ceasar is in beast mode right now.

Fred Savage
12-03-2009, 02:51 PM
Can't believe you left out Puyol & Pique. smh lol. I want them to win but a European team has NEVER won on foreign soil. Something has gotta give, but I could see a darkhorse taking the cup.

I was refering to their scoring threats mostly.

Could this be the year an African team does it?

dabears10
12-03-2009, 02:56 PM
Can't believe you left out Puyol & Pique. smh lol. I want them to win but a European team has NEVER won on foreign soil. Something has gotta give, but I could see a darkhorse taking the cup.

No one has won a cup in Africa so....

Giantsfan1080
12-03-2009, 03:03 PM
I cannot stand C. Ronaldo. He might be my least favorite athlete in the world. Every game I have seen him play, he dances around with the ball, flops and doesn't contribute as much as he should.

My prediction for this World Cup, an African nation will make the final four.

Still think Spain has way too much fire power all the way around and their defense can hold up. Torres, Villa, Inesta, Xavi, Fabergas, David Silva, Sergio Ramos coming up from defense. Plus they have that tall striker that comes off the bench that can put it in the net. Plus their D can play at a high level and Casillias is a great goalie. Can't wait till friday.

I'm with you on this one, I said the same thing on Page 2. Ivory Coast or Ghana have a great shot.

Dr.Acula
12-03-2009, 04:34 PM
I'm with you on this one, I said the same thing on Page 2. Ivory Coast or Ghana have a great shot.

If Drogba can keep his current form I would not want to play the Ivory Coast at all, he has been on fire.

Bosanac01
12-03-2009, 05:30 PM
I think this world cup is more evenly matched than ever before. When I look at each smaller country, they have a lot of fire power. I predict a team outside the fifa top 10 wins the world cup, I really wanna see that.

iowatreat54
12-03-2009, 06:06 PM
I think this world cup is more evenly matched than ever before. When I look at each smaller country, they have a lot of fire power. I predict a team outside the fifa top 10 wins the world cup, I really wanna see that.

Yea, a lot of the "bottom" teams could surprise. I think Honduras is going to put up a good fight depending on their group. I wouldn't be surprised to see them get out of group stage.

Caddy
12-03-2009, 06:15 PM
I've noticed Messi has problems playing against the elite teams where Ronaldo always played in a consistent manner.

Hopefully the US wont get a group that's as tough as the one from last WC...Ghana Czech Rep and Italy were all really formidable opponents

I disagree.

I remember countless games where Ronaldo would seemingly disappear against teams like Arsenal.

MetSox17
12-03-2009, 06:45 PM
I predict a team outside the fifa top 10 wins the world cup, I really wanna see that.

Mexico!!!! :D

iowatreat54
12-03-2009, 06:46 PM
Mexico!!!! :D

Sucks.

Like, a lot.

MetSox17
12-03-2009, 06:53 PM
Sucks.

Like, a lot.

We'll see how the US does. They aren't even getting out of group play.

iowatreat54
12-03-2009, 06:57 PM
We'll see how the US does. They aren't even getting out of group play.

Prolly not, but that has nothing to do with Mexico sucking. Good deflection though. ;)

MetSox17
12-03-2009, 07:04 PM
Prolly not, but that has nothing to do with Mexico sucking. Good deflection though. ;)

How exactly do they suck? They're historically more successful, and if i remember correctly, they won the last matchup, so..... ;)

iowatreat54
12-03-2009, 07:07 PM
How exactly do they suck? They're historically more successful, and if i remember correctly, they won the last matchup, so..... ;)

Beating the U.S. and being historically more successful doesn't mean they are good. Mexico chokes constantly. If they play anyone with a formidable defense they will, as well as not having a real defense themselves.

Overall, the fact that Mexico could neither win CONCACAF and are usually competitive with USA is pretty telling. Not to mention, they are really only successful in Mexico City and **** the bed away from home.

MetSox17
12-03-2009, 07:15 PM
Beating the U.S. and being historically more successful doesn't mean they are good. Mexico chokes constantly. If they play anyone with a formidable defense they will, as well as not having a real defense themselves.

Overall, the fact that Mexico could neither win CONCACAF and are usually competitive with USA is pretty telling. Not to mention, they are really only successful in Mexico City and **** the bed away from home.

I'm not gonna argue much against the fact that some of the most talented teams have choked, it's true, not much to say against that.

This is a ridiculously young team. Whatever they do next year in the Cup is all good and dandy, but the team isn't going in with very high expectations. The Dos Santos boys, Vela, Guardado, Castillo, Moreno and Ochoa are the heart of the team, all extremely talented and all in their early 20's. They're playing on house money right now, they weren't expected to even qualify, and they stormed back and took over qualifications. They pwned Costa Rica @ Costa Rica when most were expecting them to lose.

iowatreat54
12-03-2009, 07:18 PM
I still think it was a mistake to let the last manager go. I think it was the last one, the European or English guy that was actually teaching them to play physical and defense. That could have been the best thing for them, considering the raw talent Mexico churns out.

But of course, the fans and everyone in charge didn't like actual soccer over letting players run around doing whatever they want with seemingly no formation or gameplan. The one thing that has held Mexcio back for years is it's style of play.

thefalconer
12-03-2009, 07:22 PM
sleepers are ivory coast, serbia, and south korea.

MetSox17
12-03-2009, 07:25 PM
The Eriksson hire was just a complete and epic failure. Players weren't responding to him and he quickly lost interest in trying to get the team to succeed. Going 6-6 in Mexico will get you fired every time. Javier Aguirre has done a great job once again with the team, he has them playing on a high level, especially since the re-addition of Blanco.

iowatreat54
12-03-2009, 07:29 PM
So, you see not responding to a good coach as a problem with the coach?

Interesting. I still believe that Mexico having absolutely no structure is their biggest problem. There's a reason why they usually don't succeed in the World Cup, can't win CONCACAF, and constantly lose to lesser teams, and it isn't a lack of talent.

MetSox17
12-03-2009, 07:47 PM
So, you see not responding to a good coach as a problem with the coach?

Interesting. I still believe that Mexico having absolutely no structure is their biggest problem. There's a reason why they usually don't succeed in the World Cup, can't win CONCACAF, and constantly lose to lesser teams, and it isn't a lack of talent.

It's not necessarily a problem with the team either. Not all players respond to the Larry Browns and Bill Parcells of the world. Javier Aguirre is a very good trainer and he's doing a remarkable job with what Eriksson had left him.

And despite Mexico always having good to very good players, they've never, ever (outside of Hugo Sanchez) had the kind of talent that teams like Brazil, England or France have/had. It isn't even close.

Eaglez.Fan
12-03-2009, 07:53 PM
sleepers are ivory coast, serbia, and south korea.

Agreed on Serbia. I think they will do some damage.

Caddy
12-03-2009, 07:58 PM
sleepers are ivory coast, serbia, and south korea.

South Korea a sleeper? Really?

I agree on the other two though, but my favourite from Africa is definitely Ghana.

Rosebud
12-03-2009, 08:42 PM
Germany's going to be in the final and this year they have the depth and keeper to pull it off. Plus I think they'll want to win it for Enke.

Caddy
12-03-2009, 09:20 PM
Germany's going to be in the final and this year they have the depth and keeper to pull it off. Plus I think they'll want to win it for Enke.

Other than Australia, Germany are always my favourite World Cup team. I love the way they play football. Oliver Neuville ftw!

Rosebud
12-03-2009, 09:30 PM
Other than Australia, Germany are always my favourite World Cup team. I love the way they play football. Oliver Neuville ftw!

Oliver was great back in the day, but I'm happy with Gomez, Klose, Helmes, Keisling, Hunt and Poldi instead. :)

Fred Savage
12-03-2009, 10:32 PM
I disagree.

I remember countless games where Ronaldo would seemingly disappear against teams like Arsenal.

Yeah but he has some really pretty step-over moves, lol.

Raiderz4Life
12-03-2009, 10:43 PM
Mexico is decent at home but when they step away from the Azteca they're pretty mediocre.

Giantsfan1080
12-03-2009, 11:25 PM
Draw is tomorrow from 12-3 Eastern on ESPN 2. I'm pretty excited.

thefalconer
12-03-2009, 11:31 PM
South Korea a sleeper? Really?

I agree on the other two though, but my favourite from Africa is definitely Ghana.

heh.. i may be a tad biased. but the asian continent is constantly underrated on the world scale and south korea is the most complete team from asia despite many, who don't know what they're talking about, ranking japan much higher.

serbia has a very solid 11 and were strong in qualifying. i'd be very surprised if they don't make if past the group stages. stankovic, vidic, and zigic are very talented footballers in each area of the pitch.

ghana is a strong team but with the weapon that drogba is, even though i hate his guts, ivory coast has the individual talent to be really dangerous imo.

Caddy
12-03-2009, 11:35 PM
heh.. i may be a tad biased. but the asian continent is constantly underrated on the world scale and south korea is the most complete team from asia despite many, who don't know what they're talking about, ranking japan much higher.

serbia has a very solid 11 and were strong in qualifying. i'd be very surprised if they don't make if past the group stages. stankovic, vidic, and zigic are very talented footballers in each area of the pitch.

ghana is a strong team but with the weapon that drogba is, even though i hate his guts, ivory coast has the individual talent to be really dangerous imo.

As Australia qualify through Asia know I've seen a lot of both South Korea and Japan; neither of which I buy as legitimate threats to anyone.

thefalconer
12-04-2009, 12:01 AM
As Australia qualify through Asia know I've seen a lot of both South Korea and Japan; neither of which I buy as legitimate threats to anyone.

i can dreammmmmmmmmmm. but they're really not that bad. our 2006 squad was very lacking and we managed to tie france, the eventual finalists. we got semi-cheated against the swiss. 4 points weren't enough for us while it was enough in mexico's and australia's groups.

Caddy
12-04-2009, 12:09 AM
i can dreammmmmmmmmmm. but they're really not that bad. our 2006 squad was very lacking and we managed to tie france, the eventual finalists. we got semi-cheated against the swiss. 4 points weren't enough for us while it was enough in mexico's and australia's groups.

Don't get me started on cheating. Bloody Italians!

thefalconer
12-04-2009, 12:46 AM
Don't get me started on cheating. Bloody Italians!

i feel for you.. damn grosso. i really like australia.. and how you take south korea's sloppy second managers :P

sweetness34
12-04-2009, 02:14 AM
How exactly do they suck? They're historically more successful, and if i remember correctly, they won the last matchup, so..... ;)

And we kicked your ass the last time we met up in the World Cup if I remember correctly. :D

Mexico had to go through Portugal, Angola and Iran in 2006, which was one of the easiest groups.

USA had to go through Italy (champs), Ghana and Czech Republic, which was one of the tougher groups.

Mexico wouldn't have advanced out of our group and we would've had a very good chance at advancing out of Mexico's.

In fact, we've had a pretty tough group the past two World Cups. In 2002 we had South Korea (host country), Portugal and Poland and managed to get to the Elite 8 before we got ****** over on the no-hand ball call.

Bosanac01
12-04-2009, 03:06 AM
Why you guys have to act like some ******* assholes?? It's the world cup thread.

If metsox roots for Mexico, let him root for Mexico. You root for your USA and shut up. Why do you have to say Mexico sucks? Who the **** cares about the damn USA? It's soccer, you don't have to prove anything. USA naturally sucks at it. There are 31 other countries competing, and people would rather watch slovenia, slovakia, and greece play than your country.

WTF you been smoking??

Dr.Acula
12-04-2009, 08:08 AM
Idk if you are bored and want to pass time I found a site that simulates that world cup draw.

http://www.record.com.mx/sorteoMundial/sorteoMundial.php

On my first draw I got South Africa, USA, Uruguay, and Serbia. I would not mind it too much.

Caddy
12-04-2009, 08:10 AM
USA got South Africa, Uruguay and Greece in mine. You guys would love that.

Dr.Acula
12-04-2009, 08:15 AM
USA got South Africa, Uruguay and Greece in mine. You guys would love that.

Yeah that groups would not be too difficult, and would give the US a pretty good shot at advancing.

Gay Ork Wang
12-04-2009, 08:19 AM
In my draw germany got greece, north korea and algeria. id love that.

USA got Holland, France and chile

619
12-04-2009, 08:26 AM
I'd take Ronaldo over Messi any day of the week, although Messi is still an awesome player.

We played our best qualifying games recently without Ronaldo, not that it should influence your decision one way or another. Our team chemistry was very fluid with him out, and it really isn't that difficult to comprehend either. For all his talents I'm not sure we will ever call him a 'winner' on the international stage.

DiG
12-04-2009, 11:27 AM
this is bs. quit all the talking and draw the damn teams!

iowatreat54
12-04-2009, 11:28 AM
I'm calling it now, US gets Ivory Coast and France.

JRTPlaya21
12-04-2009, 11:31 AM
Haha Dirty Thiry you know they want to milk this for all it is worth.

619
12-04-2009, 11:32 AM
I can't believe this thing is gonna last three hours.

DiG
12-04-2009, 11:32 AM
I'm calling it now, US gets Ivory Coast and France.

id rather france than portugal. but man id be crying if we get ivory coast.

JRTPlaya21
12-04-2009, 11:34 AM
I want to avoid Ivory Coast. I love them too much.

619
12-04-2009, 11:35 AM
The African team I'd want to avoid the most is Ghana, to be honest.

JRTPlaya21
12-04-2009, 11:36 AM
I highly doubt USA will get Ghana in a group again like in 06.

dabears10
12-04-2009, 11:42 AM
The African team I'd want to avoid the most is Ghana, to be honest.

I am more scared of Drogba than anyone on Ghana, so I am more scared of Ivory Coast.

619
12-04-2009, 11:43 AM
I am more scared of Drogba than anyone on Ghana, so I am more scared of Ivory Coast.

True. They also have one of the better group of defenders in this competition. I may wanna take that back lol.

JRTPlaya21
12-04-2009, 11:45 AM
Haha good call 619. They are the strongest African team by far.

Giantsfan1080
12-04-2009, 11:47 AM
If I had known this wasn't really going to start at 12 I would have gotten some lunch. Anyway I don't want to face Ivory Coast again either.

619
12-04-2009, 11:48 AM
If I had known this wasn't really going to start at 12 I would have gotten some lunch. Anyway I don't want to face Ivory Coast again either.

10 min away!

JRTPlaya21
12-04-2009, 11:49 AM
Yeah I would not have skipped my pre calc class. Just would have left early haha.

dabears10
12-04-2009, 11:49 AM
That is a whole lot of woman.

iowatreat54
12-04-2009, 11:49 AM
I totally forgot that this was a late night thing in South Africa, otherwise I would have figured there would be a whole production.

Also, BSPN is involved, so I should have automatically woke up an hour later.

MaxV
12-04-2009, 11:49 AM
Have they started the Draw yet?

iowatreat54
12-04-2009, 11:50 AM
Have they started the Draw yet?

Should start in ~10 mins.

619
12-04-2009, 11:50 AM
Seriously, it's starting a whole ******* hour later than I thought it would. This is BS. I could've done something productive, like studying for finals.

B-Dawk
12-04-2009, 11:50 AM
wtf is going on here, i just wanted to see people grabbing balls

iowatreat54
12-04-2009, 11:51 AM
wtf is going on here, i just wanted to see people grabbing balls

Wouldn't be the first time for you, would it?

JRTPlaya21
12-04-2009, 11:52 AM
charlize theron ftw!

Giantsfan1080
12-04-2009, 11:52 AM
Even Fox Soccer Channel lied to me because their coverage started at 11 this morning which was a feed of Sky Sports News.

619
12-04-2009, 11:53 AM
Wouldn't be the first time for you, would it?

zing zing zing zing zing

B-Dawk
12-04-2009, 11:53 AM
Wouldn't be the first time for you, would it?

a favorite past time in fact

DiG
12-04-2009, 11:54 AM
is this a joke?!?! have we really now gone a freaking hour without a single draw.

iowatreat54
12-04-2009, 11:55 AM
Hey, at least we have eye candy now.

Although, this whole production is painful to watch.

JRTPlaya21
12-04-2009, 11:56 AM
I think it was actually supposed to start in like 5 minutes lol. ESPN just failed to tell us this.

Giantsfan1080
12-04-2009, 11:57 AM
Very repetitive song they have here.

dabears10
12-04-2009, 11:57 AM
Charlize Theron who took your boobs??

619
12-04-2009, 11:57 AM
Very repetitive song they have here.

I feel so foreign watching this.

JRTPlaya21
12-04-2009, 11:57 AM
This guys accent is killing me.

iowatreat54
12-04-2009, 11:59 AM
This is such an awkward presentation. Charlize acting like the idiot that doesn't know how **** works, so she has to ask dumb questions. This other guy who is just socially ******** and thinks he's funny and that people actually don't know whats going on.

DiG
12-04-2009, 12:00 PM
This is such an awkward presentation. Charlize acting like the idiot that doesn't know how **** works, so she has to ask dumb questions. This other guy who is just socially ******** and thinks he's funny and that people actually don't know whats going on.

i hope that the ratings/reviews for this force them to make changes...in 4 years...

Giantsfan1080
12-04-2009, 12:01 PM
WTF!!! Just get this thing started.

iowatreat54
12-04-2009, 12:01 PM
i hope that the ratings/reviews for this force them to make changes...in 4 years...

Seriously, like it's fine for the host country. I have no problem with them putting on this show, but for the people actually there. The TV broadcast should only cover the actual draw, and then an after show.

DiG
12-04-2009, 12:02 PM
Seriously, like it's fine for the host country. I have no problem with them putting on this show, but for the people actually there. The TV broadcast should only cover the actual draw, and then an after show.

they are treating this thing like the damn nfl draft. surprised they havent brought kiper on yet.

B-Dawk
12-04-2009, 12:03 PM
i'd hit that

thefalconer
12-04-2009, 12:04 PM
let's do itttttt.

MaxV
12-04-2009, 12:07 PM
ESPN.com already has the draws.

JRTPlaya21
12-04-2009, 12:07 PM
Get on with it now!

iowatreat54
12-04-2009, 12:08 PM
Congrats Mexico, maybe you won't choke this World Cup.

Giantsfan1080
12-04-2009, 12:08 PM
Lucky Mexicans.

MaxV
12-04-2009, 12:08 PM
Damnit, I wanted US with South Africa.

JRTPlaya21
12-04-2009, 12:09 PM
Let's gooooooooooooooo!

iowatreat54
12-04-2009, 12:09 PM
Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

dabears10
12-04-2009, 12:09 PM
Bring It On Wankers!

Giantsfan1080
12-04-2009, 12:09 PM
Ehh is Lalas a moron?

thefalconer
12-04-2009, 12:09 PM
korea with the argentines. very content.

JRTPlaya21
12-04-2009, 12:10 PM
First game too. I'm super hype!

iowatreat54
12-04-2009, 12:10 PM
Best possible draw for the US outside of group A.

Now I'm praying for no Ivory Coast.

MaxV
12-04-2009, 12:10 PM
LOL, someone predicted that earlier in this thread.

DiG
12-04-2009, 12:10 PM
england is hands down the worst possible draw for the us...

iowatreat54
12-04-2009, 12:11 PM
england is hands down the worst possible draw for the us...

You aren't serious are you...

DiG
12-04-2009, 12:11 PM
You aren't serious are you...

im dead serious.

Giantsfan1080
12-04-2009, 12:12 PM
Charlize is pissing me off also with stupid little comments.

scottyboy
12-04-2009, 12:13 PM
england is hands down the worst possible draw for the us...

hey we beat them in the Revolution and War of 1812, what's a little game of soccer?

iowatreat54
12-04-2009, 12:13 PM
im dead serious.

I'm intrigued. Please explain.

England is probably the worst team out of pot 1 excluding South Africa.

Who would have been a better draw other than South Africa.

Not to mention, the US matches up extremely well with England's style of play.

JRTPlaya21
12-04-2009, 12:13 PM
Dirty Thiry wtf are you talking about?? We have played England so many times the past few years. Would you rather have drawn Brazil, Argentina, Spain or Holland?

JRTPlaya21
12-04-2009, 12:15 PM
Woooooooooohooooooooooo! No Ivory Coast!

iowatreat54
12-04-2009, 12:16 PM
Oh thank god...

MaxV
12-04-2009, 12:16 PM
There you go. No Ivory Coast.

iowatreat54
12-04-2009, 12:16 PM
Yesss Algeria.

Now I can not be incredibly pissed when we get Portugal/France.

Giantsfan1080
12-04-2009, 12:16 PM
Algeria!!!

thefalconer
12-04-2009, 12:16 PM
Dirty Thiry wtf are you talking about?? We have played England so many times the past few years. Would you rather have drawn Brazil, Argentina, Spain or Holland?

england has the reputation of not playing to their potential in international competitions but they have been incredible in qualifying and capello finally seems to have the english playing to their capability, which is very strong.

dabears10
12-04-2009, 12:17 PM
The worst draw would have been g or h because even if the USA gets out of the group they would have had to face Brazil or Spain.

MaxV
12-04-2009, 12:17 PM
Algeria!

Hmmmm, they beat African Cup champs to get into WC, I don't know.

JRTPlaya21
12-04-2009, 12:17 PM
Algeriaaaaaa! Thank you God!

JRTPlaya21
12-04-2009, 12:18 PM
england has the reputation of not playing to their potential in international competitions but they have been incredible in qualifying and capello finally seems to have the english playing to their capability, which is very strong.

I just have a feeling that USA can pull out a draw. Anything can happen.

MaxV
12-04-2009, 12:18 PM
Germany vs. Ghana should be very entertaining.

iowatreat54
12-04-2009, 12:19 PM
I just have a feeling that USA can pull out a draw. Anything can happen.

Not even that, but there are much, much worse draws that could have happened.

Pretty much any group not named Group A.

JRTPlaya21
12-04-2009, 12:20 PM
Agreed treat. I am really excited to face England. Spain & Holland would have crushed me because I want them to go far.

DiG
12-04-2009, 12:20 PM
I'm intrigued. Please explain.

England is probably the worst team out of pot 1 excluding South Africa.

Who would have been a better draw other than South Africa.

Not to mention, the US matches up extremely well with England's style of play.

to be honest i think brazil, spain, or england were the top 3 teams that i wanted to avoid. england absolutely cruised through qualifier. they are playing great soccer right now.

id have preferred italy the most outside of south africe. also argentina i could have lived with. argentina really struggled under maradona in qualifiers.

Giantsfan1080
12-04-2009, 12:21 PM
We dodged one bullet.

iowatreat54
12-04-2009, 12:21 PM
hahahaha **** you Mexico.

MaxV
12-04-2009, 12:22 PM
South Africa will need MAJOR help from the refs to get out of that group.

I wouldn't be surprised if they get it.

iowatreat54
12-04-2009, 12:22 PM
YESSSSSSSSs.

Giantsfan1080
12-04-2009, 12:22 PM
Yes!!! No Portugal.

DiG
12-04-2009, 12:22 PM
phew slovenia sucks. i was praying we wouldnt get purtugal.

Giantsfan1080
12-04-2009, 12:23 PM
Great group for the Americans.

dabears10
12-04-2009, 12:23 PM
Pressure is on, if the USA doesn't get out it will be a disappointment.

iowatreat54
12-04-2009, 12:23 PM
Ok, so possible US-Germany matchup in round 2. I like it.

MaxV
12-04-2009, 12:23 PM
Ugghh Slovenia.

I hope US crushes them.

JRTPlaya21
12-04-2009, 12:24 PM
to be honest i think brazil, spain, or england were the top 3 teams that i wanted to avoid. england absolutely cruised through qualifier. they are playing great soccer right now.

id have preferred italy the most outside of south africe. also argentina i could have lived with. argentina really struggled under maradona in qualifiers.

Holland didn't drop a game..

DiG
12-04-2009, 12:24 PM
Ok, so possible US-Germany matchup in round 2. I like it.

i agree. good setup for the US. it could be a lot worse. im nervous for england but at least its not brazil or spain. englands playing very well right now but i do think that if the US show up they can play with them.

Giantsfan1080
12-04-2009, 12:24 PM
Italy with a really easy group.

DiG
12-04-2009, 12:25 PM
WOW group G is hands down the group of death.

dabears10
12-04-2009, 12:25 PM
No question G is the group of death.

619
12-04-2009, 12:25 PM
Portugal and Brazil

*goes and kills self*

Giantsfan1080
12-04-2009, 12:25 PM
Portugal, Brazil, and Ivory Coast. Yikes.

iowatreat54
12-04-2009, 12:25 PM
i agree. good setup for the US. it could be a lot worse. im nervous for england but at least its not brazil or spain. englands playing very well right now but i do think that if the US show up they can play with them.

Yes, and at least the rest of the group are teams that the US should beat.

Key word: should.

Hahaha suck it North Korea. Group of death.

DiG
12-04-2009, 12:26 PM
we just cant let rooney dictate the game up front. we have to match the english forwards physically to keep them in check. hopefully onyewu is back and healthy.

JRTPlaya21
12-04-2009, 12:27 PM
Damn Ivory Coast got a group of death again!

Giantsfan1080
12-04-2009, 12:28 PM
Altidore might be able to keep up with Rooney physically.