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Supporting Caste
11-15-2009, 03:17 PM
Dudes, does anyone know where there is a stream to the game? Effing Channelsurfing.net is down. Crap.

dpl85
11-15-2009, 03:27 PM
If Folk keeps missing short to intermediate FGs Buehler may take his other job too.

LonghornsLegend
11-15-2009, 03:32 PM
If Folk keeps missing short to intermediate FGs Buehler may take his other job too.

LOL, nice. Your right though, rusty from the surgery? He has been missing easy kicks though that we all know he can make, but I'll give him a pass until he blows one of those in the clutch.


Oh and it's obvious we need to let Jenkins play up and press at the line, he likes to play bump and run, and there is no reason to give Jennings any cushion.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 03:33 PM
He wont take his job. They just said he was 9-10 from 40 and closer. He's a little shaky now, but we're also a little spoiled by him. He's like 86% for his career. That hip surgery has certainly messed him up a bit, though. It is aggravating.

dpl85
11-15-2009, 03:35 PM
I was half joking but it won't be funny if he misses a big one late in a game. But given his history you have to give him the benefit of the doubt... for now.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 03:36 PM
Oh god Colombo's down.

dpl85
11-15-2009, 03:37 PM
Oh crap Colombo is one of our most important players.

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 03:44 PM
I'm at church.... Who stepped in for Columbo? Free?

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 03:44 PM
Yeah Free is in there.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 03:47 PM
Spencer so close again.

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 03:50 PM
bs call on jenkins

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 03:51 PM
wtf w/ barber?

he looks like he is popping his hammy everytime he gets to the lb

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 03:52 PM
Nice return by Crayton, finally back on offense.

dpl85
11-15-2009, 04:00 PM
Colombo has a high left ankle sprain according to Kristy Scales.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 04:00 PM
That ******* sucks.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 04:01 PM
Bradie just fell in a heap. Our guys are dropping left and right.

LonghornsLegend
11-15-2009, 04:02 PM
You had to see this coming at some point, we didnt' have one injury to a significant player all the way through the roster, eventually they always come and we've been pretty lucky up to this point.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 04:02 PM
And Jason Williams is inactive.

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 04:04 PM
Playing flat so far.

The Folk miss drained the O. But frankly, I think Folk is done. He needs to go find himself once again. He already cost us the GMan game IMHO. Anything beyond 35 yards seems an adventure. No confidence in him.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 04:05 PM
Bradie is back.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 04:11 PM
Their defense is taking it to us. Our line isn't blocking well at all.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 04:18 PM
I dont know if they're just giving him a series off but, Butler is in for Ware.

edit...yup that is wha they were doing. Nice to see for a change.

dpl85
11-15-2009, 04:20 PM
Bobby looks like he's afraid of physical contact.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 04:22 PM
Come on Roy. Freaking butter fingers.:(

LonghornsLegend
11-15-2009, 04:28 PM
I think we'll score here on the 2 minute drive.


Wow great job Flozell.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 04:29 PM
Clay just ran right around Flo. geez.

dpl85
11-15-2009, 04:29 PM
I wanna see Choice get a lot of touches in the 2nd half.

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 04:31 PM
Garrett is really stubborn also.

Again, get the ball to Austin.

3 crappy throws so far.

Any chance a slant or post to go after the Cover 2??

LonghornsLegend
11-15-2009, 04:33 PM
Austin has to come back and get that ball, there are still a few things if you wanted to nitpick a guy with 7 TD's, that he has got to learn to do better to be a complete WR.

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 04:40 PM
Austin has to come back and get that ball, there are still a few things if you wanted to nitpick a guy with 7 TD's, that he has got to learn to do better to be a complete WR.

That throw on Cover 2 never should be thrown with Romo's arm and certainly not to the inside.

Route never should have been run or called either.

Slant, seem routes, all missing. JG needs to wake up.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 04:48 PM
He doesnt have a high ankle sprain...make it a broken leg. He may just be done for the year, depending on the break.

umphrey
11-15-2009, 04:48 PM
I can't believe we held you guys scoreless for the first half. This game isn't anything like I thought it would be. If our offense gets going and stops taking so many negative plays and penalties we could easily win this one. But it's a 3 point game and it could go the other way real quick too.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 04:52 PM
Felix looked good on that return.

JJJ888
11-15-2009, 05:13 PM
That's a great play by carpenter to bring Rodgers down.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 05:15 PM
Great job Roy.

JJJ888
11-15-2009, 05:17 PM
This offense looks brilliant.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 05:19 PM
Oh yeah.

You got the line sucking, Roy dropping passes and fumbling, Austin no where to be found and running the wrong route earlier, stupid penalties. Amazing.

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 05:20 PM
From the point last week we decided Roy Williams deserves more looks than Austin we have struggled.

Roy simply sucks ... again.

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 05:20 PM
Oh yeah.

You got the line sucking, Roy dropping passes and fumbling, Austin no where to be found and running the wrong route earlier, stupid penalties. Amazing.

Austin? How about Witten?

Amazing what eye sees.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 05:22 PM
You side with Austin on everything. Fact is, he hasnt been that big of a factor since we started playing good secondaries. They've rolled some coverages to his side, and are bracketing him. He's not always open, Bob. geez.

stupid penalties...was referring to Witten.

JJJ888
11-15-2009, 05:23 PM
Somebody's gotta make a play for this team. I don't care where it comes from, but things can't continue the way they've been going so far. Time for guys like Brooking and Romo to get in people's faces and get this team motivated.

JJJ888
11-15-2009, 05:25 PM
This is terrible. There is no way we should be allowing a team with such a piss-poor offensive line to convert on so many third and longs.

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 05:27 PM
MOTH,

The routes that are being run / called are all wrong.

Nothing in the middle for the WR -- all sideline routes.

Again, since we decided to get Williams the ball we have played poorly.

dpl85
11-15-2009, 05:33 PM
This friggin sucks! We might lose but the bigger story really would be the severity of the injuries.

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 05:33 PM
Did JG watch any Minnesota tape?

Making the Pack look like the 86 Bears.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 05:34 PM
MOTH,

The routes that are being run / called are all wrong.

Nothing in the middle for the WR -- all sideline routes.

Again, since we decided to get Williams the ball we have played poorly.

You do realize...when they roll coverage to Miles. That leaves Roy one on one, hence why he has been receiving more looks.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 05:35 PM
Scandrick is a freaking penalty machine.

dpl85
11-15-2009, 05:39 PM
We can't run the ball at all and it won't get any better since Marc is out.

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 05:40 PM
3rd and 7 no blitz near goal ...... this is where Wade leaves me breadthless.

Secondary doesn't need to cover much field. You need the stop.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 05:40 PM
If we dont score on this next drive...it's over.

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 05:41 PM
You do realize...when they roll coverage to Miles. That leaves Roy one on one, hence why he has been receiving more looks.

Run a crossing route. Run a slant on a three step. Attack the safety deep.

Roy sucks. Are we not already convinced?

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 05:41 PM
3rd and 7 no blitz near goal ...... this is where Wade leaves me breadthless.

Secondary doesn't need to cover much field. You need the stop.

Scandrick, Ball, and Watkins are in there, though. And their line is garbage.

LonghornsLegend
11-15-2009, 05:42 PM
Looks like this is going to be a long week of overreactions when we lose this game, I'm sure someone will enjoy that.

E-Man
11-15-2009, 05:43 PM
This game is so frustrating to watch. Right now I'm just hoping they finish the game without another injury. The guys are getting banged up out there today.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 05:44 PM
I cant believe Tony only has 14 passes. Offensive line has been dominated all freaking game.

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 05:47 PM
Look an IN route .... SEEEEEEE

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 05:49 PM
Looks like this is going to be a long week of overreactions when we lose this game, I'm sure someone will enjoy that.

ROTFLMAO!!!!!

If I were not seeing bad OC in action I would not be upset.

AT least Meatball did the right thing on the Challenge.

Packer D is better than the 86 Bears.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 05:49 PM
What do you mean, See? You were complaining that Austin wasnt getting the ball.

FelixTheCat
11-15-2009, 05:51 PM
Big call coming up here

E-Man
11-15-2009, 05:51 PM
Looks like this is going to be a long week of overreactions when we lose this game, I'm sure someone will enjoy that.

You're probably very right about that.

crisco0710
11-15-2009, 05:52 PM
Austin has what, 4 passes to him? All of them catchable but 1. How come he doesn't have a catch?

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 05:52 PM
I see the folks crawling out to make nasty comments about me.

Did I say anything to anyone?? No.

crisco0710
11-15-2009, 05:53 PM
Roy Williams has 4, but one drop

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 05:53 PM
Austin has what, 4 passes to him? All of them catchable but 1. How come he doesn't have a catch?

Bull crap all four catchable. ONE. Beginning of the game.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 05:53 PM
Wow that is BS.

crisco0710
11-15-2009, 05:54 PM
What the hell is that about? We wait 5 minutes to hear that it can't be challenged! Lets go D. Hold them to 3 and get the O going.

JJJ888
11-15-2009, 05:55 PM
What about down by contact Triplett, you idiot. That's reviewable.

JJJ888
11-15-2009, 05:55 PM
Biggest bunch of bullcrap I've ever seen.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 05:55 PM
And game.

What a god damn disappointment.

FelixTheCat
11-15-2009, 05:55 PM
Wow that is BS.

Yea I don't understand that... Now it's a 3 score game, great.

Staubach12
11-15-2009, 05:56 PM
Can't be challenged? That's a horrible call, and it cost us any hope at this game.

JJJ888
11-15-2009, 05:58 PM
I'm still shaking my head at that call. Triplett is just ignorant if he thinks he can't rule on Jones being down by contact, because that was very clear. It has nothing to do with the recovery.

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 06:00 PM
REFs have been quite helpful for GB.

Took away two turnovers and gave one to them.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 06:00 PM
Leonard Davis in at LT.

diesel
11-15-2009, 06:01 PM
Are you kidding me with this game? JUST high to Austin, Williams gets big play fumbles it. They convert 2 - 3rd and longs. A fumble we can't challenge?
Oh yea, Colombo broken fibula, Jenkins out, and Hamlin, and as I type this Flozell is walking off the field with an injury. Awesome...

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 06:02 PM
This is why Roy Williams sucks ... he did not even try to get that ball. Let Collins almost catch it.

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 06:03 PM
2 Romo over throws = 14 points.

Game of inches.

JJJ888
11-15-2009, 06:07 PM
Worst officiating crew ever.

Isn't it a penalty when a team challenges and they don't have one left?

diesel
11-15-2009, 06:07 PM
These guys ref SEC games as well?

E-Man
11-15-2009, 06:08 PM
Jeff Tripplet is such a dumb ass.

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 06:09 PM
Seeeeee, a few inside passes ... things open

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 06:10 PM
OC needs to get kicked for today.

FelixTheCat
11-15-2009, 06:11 PM
Seeeeee, a few inside passes ... things open

That does us no good down 3 scores in the 4th, that missed shot to bennett was huge

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 06:12 PM
OC needs to get kicked for today.

Some one needs to slap Houck.

diesel
11-15-2009, 06:12 PM
Game. Over.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 06:13 PM
Great play call Garrett. Fantastic. One yard line pass, as always.

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 06:14 PM
And Tony Turnover has shown up .....

Best corner on Witten .... and there he goes.

E-Man
11-15-2009, 06:14 PM
**** is going to get real annoying.

FelixTheCat
11-15-2009, 06:16 PM
They owned us today, we were just poor in every aspect on offense

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 06:17 PM
Great play call Garrett. Fantastic. One yard line pass, as always.
Garrett has major problems. Does anybody remember why Dan Reeves wasn't hired as a consultant for Garrett? We wouldn't be having to put up with this. Time wasn't an issue. Why pass? Why? I thought he's learned his lesson by now. I can't blame Romo for Garrett putting him in position like that.

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 06:17 PM
Team needs to get back to finding Austin and running with two TE.

All this other nonsense is just that.

Roy Williams as the number #1 is nothing more than grinding down the O.

diesel
11-15-2009, 06:19 PM
I just want a touchdown at this point.

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 06:20 PM
Team needs to get back to finding Austin and running with two TE.

All this other nonsense is just that.

Roy Williams as the number #1 is nothing more than grinding down the O.
I don't know if that's the answer, but I do agree that it is a schematic problem. Garrett tried using the same plays as last week. Maybe he thought GB wouldn't view last week's tape. lol.

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 06:21 PM
I just want a touchdown at this point.
I just want to look forward to next week. I knew this was a trap game.

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 06:21 PM
I don't know if that's the answer, but I do agree that it is a schematic problem. Garrett tried using the same plays as last week. Maybe he thought GB wouldn't view last week's tape. lol.

We ran well first Q and stopped.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 06:22 PM
Screw trap game. Dallas just got dominated at the point of attack. They probably beat us more than we beat them if we played them in some kind of series. Their d-line threw our offensive line around. Linebackers were coming in untouched. It messed up everything for us.

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 06:23 PM
Romo is not without blame either. Fumble, INT, overthrows.

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 06:25 PM
Well I knew Dallas didn't play well in the cold, but I didn't know they couldn't coach in the cold either! LOL. Jason Garrett = Tool.

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 06:25 PM
Lions got shut out too. Great.

scottyboy
11-15-2009, 06:26 PM
not trolling at all here, just commenting that on the fumble, that's not Tripplet's fault. It's a league rule, he was informed by the league. I've just liked Jeff and his work in the past so sticking up for him haha

diesel
11-15-2009, 06:26 PM
Anyone else check to see if it was December?

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 06:30 PM
Screw trap game. Dallas just got dominated at the point of attack. They probably beat us more than we beat them if we played them in some kind of series. Their d-line threw our offensive line around. Linebackers were coming in untouched. It messed up everything for us.
Well we knew they were good on paper, but they've been playing beneath expectations all season.

Jolly is a FA. Gimme him over Spears every day of the week.

Fricken Clay Matthews was a wreaking crew. Their D didn't look like they were in their first year of transition to the 3-4 and you gotta admire that. Capers is a master. I respect him.

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 06:32 PM
Anyone else check to see if it was December?
No reason to get beat down too much. Sure it sucks to lose, but with perspective in mind, we're still in the driver's seat in the NFC East with Philly losing today.

MetSox17
11-15-2009, 06:39 PM
If only Garrett wasn't a complete ******* idiot and just punched it in. Did he not learn anything in the Carolina game?

The offense moved the ball pretty easily when they went no huddle, don't know why it took so long to spread it out and just pass pass pass.

I also have absolutely no faith in this defense on third downs. It seems like every single third and long, they give up a big screen pass, or a deep in route or some stupid **** like that. It's sad. Also, Sensebaugh getting pwned by a FB is just sad.

Modano
11-15-2009, 06:41 PM
What a boring game. It looked like it lasted 5 hours. And with all those commercials I was really bored. Anyway, I kinda expected us to lose. They have their backs against the wall and I didn't see us winning 8 games in a row. Since I'm pretty confident about the next three games I thought this was the game we had the best chance to lose. The missed FG kinda set the tone for our offense and they were not able to get on any kind of rhythm.

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 06:43 PM
So what's the injury list look like now?

Maybe a blessing in disguise. If Free has issues at tackle then maybe that'll encourage Jerry to go OT in round 1 for once.

Our secondary depth is the biggest concern right now.

Any Marcus Spears supporters happy with his performance today?

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 06:43 PM
I wouldnt read a whole lot into us moving the ball at the end. Their defense owned us all game. The game was already out of reach and their defense was huffing and puffing near the end. For the majority of the game...the story was, Romo drops back and has three guys in his face.

We just got outplayed, specifically along the line. They just beat us. I'm not going to let it wear on me but, the key reason why we loss is because, they just flat pushed around our o-line. The Packers were a little on the desperate side and they played a fantastic game.

dpl85
11-15-2009, 06:44 PM
This game could and probably will prove very costly down the road.

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 06:45 PM
The one game we had this year where we had more talent, playing better, and had incentive to pull 2 full game ahead on the division.

We get punked.

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 06:45 PM
This game could and probably will prove very costly down the road.
What do you envision the impact to be? Tie breaker for the Wild card spot?

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 06:45 PM
So what's the injury list look like now?

Maybe a blessing in disguise. If Free has issues at tackle then maybe that'll encourage Jerry to go OT in round 1 for once.

Our secondary depth is the biggest concern right now.

Any Marcus Spears supporters happy with his performance today?

Jenkins looked alright at the end. So here's hoping it's not a torn bicep. lol. I think he'll be just fine. I didnt hear anything on Hamlin. But if I had to guess...we'll only be down Colombo next week. Maybe Colombo/Hamlin, at the worst.

Spears got some pretty good pressure today. He should have had a sack on that intentional grounding. He was sealed off real bad on a pair of big runs, though.

dpl85
11-15-2009, 06:47 PM
What do you envision the impact to be? Tie breaker for the Wild card spot?
Possibly that and along with the injuries it might be bad on several fronts.

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 06:50 PM
The one game we had this year where we had more talent, playing better, and had incentive to pull 2 full game ahead on the division.

We get punked.
Yeah we had pretty good momentum going into it and they were struggling.

I'm not really sure we have clearly better talent. But if you wanna give Jerry credit like that then ok.

I'm not sure how tuned into the Philly game our players were, so that probably didn't factor into the whole incentive to pull 2 games ahead.

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 06:52 PM
Jenkins looked alright at the end. So here's hoping it's not a torn bicep. lol. I think he'll be just fine. I didnt hear anything on Hamlin. But if I had to guess...we'll only be down Colombo next week. Maybe Colombo/Hamlin, at the worst.

Spears got some pretty good pressure today. He should have had a sack on that intentional grounding. He was sealed off real bad on a pair of big runs, though.
He was sealed off from the stat sheet as well. ...and we're talking about a GB O-Line that is one of the worse in the league. Your boy Stephen Bowen on the other hand... Give that man a round of applause.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 06:54 PM
Well Spencer got sealed off the stat sheet as well, when it came to sacks and he probably got more pressure than anyone today. He played a great game.

Box score doesnt say it all. That being said. Bowen should start over Spears right now, imo. Wont happen, though. Spears hasnt been bad this year. Not great, but solid enough for a 3-4 end. Bowen is better, though.

In any case...the defense wasnt the problem today.

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 06:55 PM
I wouldnt read a whole lot into us moving the ball at the end. Their defense owned us all game. The game was already out of reach and their defense was huffing and puffing near the end. For the majority of the game...the story was, Romo drops back and has three guys in his face.

We just got outplayed, specifically along the line. They just beat us. I'm not going to let it wear on me but, the key reason why we loss is because, they just flat pushed around our o-line. The Packers were a little on the desperate side and they played a fantastic game.
Yeah, moving the ball at the end was meaningless.

Our D played well for 3 quarters though. Amazing how night and day we looked without Jenkins on the field. Just Amazing.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 06:57 PM
Yeah, moving the ball at the end was meaningless.

Our D played well for 3 quarters though. Amazing how night and day we looked without Jenkins on the field. Just Amazing.

Hate to say it but, we overrate Scandrick because, of that great first season.

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 06:57 PM
Well Spencer got sealed off the stat sheet as well when it came to sacks and he probably got more pressure than anyone today. He played a great game.

Box score doesnt say it all. That being said, though. Bowen should start over Spears right now, imo. Wont happen, though.
Well he's been sealed off from that all season. lol. Not a single sack yet. He's did do well in what he's been doing well all season too... stopping the run. We need to put Butler in on sure passing downs. The combination of the two could work wonders.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 07:00 PM
Well he's been sealed off from that all season. lol. Not a single sack yet. He's did do well in what he's been doing well all season too... stopping the run. We need to put Butler in on sure passing downs. The combination of the two could work wonders.

I dont know if you got to see it but, Victor played a real lot today. He didnt do anything, though. He wasnt too hot against the run either. It was atleast nice to see him in the mix. He came in for both Ware and Specer for a couple of series.

But back to Spencer...I dont know what the problem is. It's honestly more bad luck than anything. He's been close all year and as Aikman said, he's tied with Ware for QB pressures this year. Never would have guessed that, huh?

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 07:01 PM
Hate to say it but, we overrate Scandrick because, of that great first season.
He's still a helluva 5th round pick. Maybe it's a sophomore slump. I don't think he doesn't have the necessary skill set. Or that we guessed wrong on his capability. The tools are there. He's been playing nickel CB just fine. He was right where he needed to be on that PI call... he just has to tell his brain to keep his back arm down and not behind the receiver.

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 07:05 PM
I dont know if you got to see it but, Victor played a real lot today. He didnt do anything, though. He wasnt too hot against the run either. It was atleast nice to see him in the mix. He came in for both Ware and Specer for a couple of series.

But back to Spencer...I dont know what the problem is. It's honestly more bad luck than anything. He's been close all year and as Aikman said, he's tied with Ware for QB pressures this year. Never would have guessed that, huh?
QB pressures are nice. Bad luck is an excuse. Spencer doesn't get the kind of attention that Ware gets with extra blockers.

I just saw the from the begining of the 3rd quarter on. I thought the D was playing good except when it came to 3rd down conversions. That was frustrating as hell. ha.

Penalties hurt our offense. GB's coverage was excellent. Even when Romo had time to throw they where blanketed.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 07:07 PM
He's still a helluva 5th round pick. Maybe it's a sophomore slump. I don't think he doesn't have the necessary skill set. Or that we guessed wrong on his capability. The tools are there. He's been playing nickel CB just fine. He was right where he needed to be on that PI call... he just has to tell his brain to keep his back arm down and not behind the receiver.

Agreed. But he isnt as amazing as we were all making him out to be. There is work to be done. Mike seems light years ahead of Scandrick now. As it should have been to begin with but, Scandrick has regressed in a way. I'm not worried but, the bandwagon got full, pretty early on this one. The potential is still tremendous.

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 07:10 PM
Someone tell me about that Scandrick sack/fumble, Jenkins penalty play... What was that all about?

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 07:11 PM
QB pressures are nice. Bad luck is an excuse. Spencer doesn't get the kind of attention that Ware gets with extra blockers.

I just saw the from the begining of the 3rd quarter on. I thought the D was playing good except when it came to 3rd down conversions. That was frustrating as hell. ha.

Penalties hurt our offense. GB's coverage was excellent. Even when Romo had time to throw they where blanketed.

Meh. He always seems to be just a step late. Maybe he can slim down a few pounds, add some speed. Technique wise he isnt doing anything wrong. He's getting to the QB, he's just not pulling him down. The QB is throwing it away or getting rid of it, right as soon as Spencer makes contact.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 07:13 PM
Someone tell me about that Scandrick sack/fumble, Jenkins penalty play... What was that all about?

Scandrick came in free, Rodgers didnt even sense it, sack and Scandrick fumble recovery. It was blown dead as soon as Scandrick recovered.

Prior to that, Jenkins tried to jam Jennings? and unintentionally got his face mask.

dpl85
11-15-2009, 07:13 PM
Someone tell me about that Scandrick sack/fumble, Jenkins penalty play... What was that all about?
Very questionable call on Jenkins. I think they called it illegal contact.

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 07:15 PM
Agreed. But he isnt as amazing as we were all making him out to be. There is work to be done. Mike seems light years ahead of Scandrick now. As it should have been to begin with but, Scandrick has regressed in a way. I'm not worried but, the bandwagon got full, pretty early on this one. The potential is still tremendous.
I agree. But that's how Cowboys fans are. Why do you think Victor Butler is such a bad ass and Buehler should be starting over Folk? lol. Austin's bandwagon is overflowing right now and he has yet to show us consistency. Things aren't really the same now that defenses are focused on containing him. Anybody ready to say we overrated Austin? No way, right? Yeah, people only show up after the fact.

Bottom line is that there is a place for Scandrick on the roster and it would be a shame to lose him. He's our 3rd best CB.

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 07:18 PM
Meh. He always seems to be just a step late. Maybe he can slim down a few pounds, add some speed. Technique wise he isnt doing anything wrong. He's getting to the QB, he's just not pulling him down. The QB is throwing it away or getting rid of it, right as soon as Spencer makes contact.
Well hopefully you're right and his bad luck stops. We sure need him to produce more than pressuring the QB. That shouldn't really be a stat unless the QB doesn't make a completion. That's on thing that bugs me about that one.

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 07:20 PM
The game will be our Ram game from last year.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 07:21 PM
I'm ready to say that it's not as easy as people think to make Austin this #1 target. But some arent listening. Coverages are being rolled to his side, he is being spied, he is being bracketed. Tony knows this...he said as much last week. The safeties are creeping up on his routes. You wanted Austin the #1 receiver? Well he's being treated as such. It's going to open things up for other guys and make it more difficult to get him the ball. His great start could be burdensome for him because, it gave fans these outlandish expectations. Our competition level has increased and the league has taken notice of Austin as a threat so, it's become more difficult to get him the ball. The league has adjusted to him. The fact that he hasnt been as dangerous and Williams' having more success, shouldnt come as a surprise.

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 07:21 PM
Yeah, moving the ball at the end was meaningless.

Our D played well for 3 quarters though. Amazing how night and day we looked without Jenkins on the field. Just Amazing.

Been saying Jenkins is the best in the NFC East

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 07:23 PM
Scandrick came in free, Rodgers didnt even sense it, sack and Scandrick fumble recovery. It was blown dead as soon as Scandrick recovered.

Prior to that, Jenkins tried to jam Jennings? and unintentionally got his face mask.

BS Call.

Again, once Jenkins starts getting some calls ..... it will be special.

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 07:26 PM
Been saying Jenkins is the best in the NFC East
Well even if true, he doesn't need to be compared to Champ Bailey. That is typical Cowboy fan overrating at it's finest.

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 07:26 PM
.... Williams' having more success, shouldnt come as a surprise.

You call what Williams is having as "success?" The guy is like ANTI-MOMENTUM. You know eventually he is going to blow a big play .... today TWO.

You know, I see teams like Houston get the ball to Andre Johnson regardless of coverage b/c they put him in the hots routes. Same as Fitz -- which is why Boldin is angry and jealosu.

Mike Irvin used to say he would switch X/Y with Harper when he wanted the ball because he knew where the "hot" read was going with the ball. He knew certain routes where were the PLAYMAKER was needed.

That is what I want done with Austin. Get him the ball 8-10 times per game and spread the rest out over the others as needed. Alvin would get a few but just that few ....

Not saying close your eyes and throw to Austin but you need to make a better effort than we have last two weeks.

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 07:27 PM
BS Call.

Again, once Jenkins starts getting some calls ..... it will be special.
Consistency gets those calls. Doesn't happen overnight. He should get there if he keeps improving the way he has. It's a fun thing to be watching his growth right before your eyes. He can't let injuries be an excuse though. He needs to get back on his feet next week and keep building that consistency.

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 07:28 PM
Well even if true, he doesn't need to be compared to Champ Bailey. That is typical Cowboy fan overrating at it's finest.

I said ONCE HE STARTS GETTING THE CALLS LIKE ASANTE DOES he will be in that discussion.

As you rightly said, look at today the difference.

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 07:29 PM
Consistency gets those calls. Doesn't happen overnight. He should get there if he keeps improving the way he has. It's a fun thing to be watching his growth right before your eyes. He can't let injuries be an excuse though. He needs to get back on his feet next week and keep building that consistency.

Maturity is key for him. Today, he needed to get back in there. I realise the Bi hurts but you need to have the attitude of "they won't get the completion so I won't need to tackle."

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 07:30 PM
You call what Williams is having as "success?" The guy is like ANTI-MOMENTUM. You know eventually he is going to blow a big play .... today TWO.

You know, I see teams like Houston get the ball to Andre Johnson regardless of coverage b/c they put him in the hots routes. Same as Fitz -- which is why Boldin is angry and jealosu.

Mike Irvin used to say he would switch X/Y with Harper when he wanted the ball because he knew where the "hot" read was going with the ball. He knew certain routes where were the PLAYMAKER was needed.

That is what I want done with Austin. Get him the ball 8-10 times per game and spread the rest out over the others as needed. Alvin would get a few but just that few ....

Not saying close your eyes and throw to Austin but you need to make a better effort than we have last two weeks.
It was very disappointing to finally turn on the game and see that Austin had yet to make a catch. Second game in a row that Garrett isn't calling more plays for him. Garrett is a joke. There are ways to get your WRs involved early, no matter what kind of coverage they are drawing.

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 07:31 PM
http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/11/tony-dungy-romo-had-to-be-more-aware.html#leavecomments

As I was saying about Turnover. He was back today.

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 07:32 PM
Maturity is key for him. Today, he needed to get back in there. I realise the Bi hurts but you need to have the attitude of "they won't get the completion so I won't need to tackle."
I'm right there with you on that one. Just like Asante Samuels last week. Even though he got his bell rung, he went back into the game. Didn't do much as far as run support went, but he was on his man and still made his normal impact in coverage.

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 07:32 PM
It was very disappointing to finally turn on the game and see that Austin had yet to make a catch. Second game in a row that Garrett isn't calling more plays for him. Garrett is a joke. There are ways to get your WRs involved early, no matter what kind of coverage they are drawing.

And we struggled both weeks.

This is no coincidence.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 07:32 PM
You call what Williams is having as "success?"

You know, I see teams like Houston get the ball to Andre Johnson regardless of coverage b/c they put him in the hots routes.

Mike Irvin used to say he would switch X/Y with Harper when he wanted the ball because he knew where the "hot" read was going with the ball.

That is what I want done with Austin. Get him the ball 8-10 times per game and spread the rest out over the others.

Not saying close your eyes and throw to Austin but you need to make a better effort than we have last two weeks.

Roy still kills me with his drops but, he has played better the last two weeks. Today some stat padding went on but, he's been a hell of a lot better than he was earlier in the year. Due in large part to Austin's emergence.

You also have to realize, all this is new to Austin. Austin has shown that he still even has trouble with the playbook. Austin has run the wrong route on several occassions this year, including today. Witten and Romo were yelling at him again. He's not someone you can depend heavily on yet. He'll have some monster games but, he is still a little rough around the edges. And lets not go comparing Austin to say, Andre Johnson. We dont even know what he'll be yet, but again, the league has taken notice of him now and save one big play, he's being handled pretty effectively now. It will all balance itself out in time. I do believe, he'll be just fine but, this slow point for him should be expected as the league continues to adapt to him.

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 07:32 PM
http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/11/tony-dungy-romo-had-to-be-more-aware.html#leavecomments

As I was saying about Turnover. He was back today.
Why do you think?

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 07:35 PM
And we struggled both weeks.

This is no coincidence.
Yeah, hopefully Austin can figure out how to handle the added focus on him. We need him to get open or open things up for others. He can no longer enjoy the benefit of being the lucky one not to get attention.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 07:37 PM
That's BS. Romo was under constant pressure all game. Romo has been doing a fine job of protecting the ball all year long. He fumbled on blind sided hits. Please. Guess what? Rodgers fumbled on a blind sided hit as well.

The offensive line dropped the ball today. You'd love if Romo would have sensed a corner blitz but, QBs get surprised by them all around the league. It's nothing new. Tony didnt have any time today. None.

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 07:37 PM
Round of applause for Crayton today. I've been bashing him recently, but today he was catching things with his hands and working hard to get open.

dpl85
11-15-2009, 07:38 PM
http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/11/tony-dungy-romo-had-to-be-more-aware.html#leavecomments

As I was saying about Turnover. He was back today.
I will defer to Dungy as he is infinitely more knowledgeable about football than me.

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 07:40 PM
That's BS. Romo was under constant pressure all game. Romo has been doing a fine job of protecting the ball all year long. He fumbled on blind sided hits. Please. Guess what? Rodgers fumbled on a blind sided hit as well.
Amen. Romo avoided about 10 sacks today with his mobility in the pocket and quick release. Bashers just see turnovers and overthrown balls, but you gotta give credit where credit is due. If Garrett can't get our running game open, then he deserves to be canned at the end of the year.

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 07:42 PM
I will defer to Dungy as he is infinitely more knowledgeable about football than me.
You know who's job it is to make sure Romo is more aware? Ginger. ...Wade too. Even though Dungy is a Defensive coach, I'm sure he would've made sure Peyton was aware of stuff like that during the game.

M.O.T.H.
11-15-2009, 07:43 PM
"The one in the lights is on me. But if the light's not there that's a caught ball."

-Roy Williams

Oh geez, Roy. :/

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 07:45 PM
"The one in the lights is on me. But if the light's not there that's a caught ball."

-Roy Williams

Oh geez, Roy. :/
hahahahha. OK, Jerry needs to go back and restructure his contract to account for "lights in the eyes".

Pathetic Roy. Shut up.

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 07:50 PM
Why do you think?

I agree that he pretty much ignored the left side of the field on that play. And he does this a lot when looking right. Most of his INT if you care to remember are right. Seriously, he has a blind spot to the left and no one seems to have figured it out.

And the INT, again, focused right. Champ Bailey focused right. Hurd incompletions focused right. GMen INT focused right. ............ Witten today, focused right.

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 07:54 PM
Yeah, hopefully Austin can figure out how to handle the added focus on him. We need him to get open or open things up for others. He can no longer enjoy the benefit of being the lucky one not to get attention.

Yeah, maybe JG can step up and put players in positions to succeed instead of just worrying about XOXOs.

LonghornsLegend
11-15-2009, 08:00 PM
DMN blog is funny, when we win were a SB team and one of the league's best, Romo finally turned the corner, when we lose we need to fire Wade, Garrett, trade Romo, and were a pathetic team lol.


Seriously though, at least Philly lost. Guess me and D had that same feeling about this game for a reason. Roy had a chance to make some plays and get us out of a slump but 2 plays that should NEVER happen. Still he's starting to look more comfortable and involved, it's not like he lost the game for us.


How many rushes did we have this game? I mean, come the **** on, stuff like that there is no excuse for. I think Romo threw that pick on the 1 yard line, really? Barber? With better playcalling, and Folk missing that bunny it's a game in the 4th, those are the two areas that stick out in my head as to why this wasn't at least close in the final moments.


Lots of other bad things I noticed, but those were key to me. Austin is getting doubled yes, but I would like him to start to pick up some more of the little things great WR's do, so we'll have to watch his development over the last part of the season.


Still in 1st place, yes it was a ****** game vs a beatable team, but this is the NFL. I won't be upset about it very long honestly because the big picture is more important, I just want to see if we correct our mistakes. But the lack of rushes this game was irresponsible by Garrett, we have 3 RB's and that's the best he can do?

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 08:02 PM
Yeah, maybe JG can step up and put players in positions to succeed instead of just worrying about XOXOs.
I'm not sure he even worries about XOXOs... his scheme is still predictable, still simplistic and still too pass heavy. We need an experienced coordinator. Not this fly by the seat of his pants guy who borrows his stuff from everyone else.

dpl85
11-15-2009, 08:03 PM
The bottom line is that we need to be able to actually run the ball more often and with greater efficiency to take some pressure off Tony. I don't know how we're gonna do that without Marc though.

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 08:06 PM
DMN blog is funny, when we win were a SB team and one of the league's best, Romo finally turned the corner, when we lose we need to fire Wade, Garrett, trade Romo, and were a pathetic team lol.


Seriously though, at least Philly lost. Guess me and D had that same feeling about this game for a reason. Roy had a chance to make some plays and get us out of a slump but 2 plays that should NEVER happen. Still he's starting to look more comfortable and involved, it's not like he lost the game for us.


How many rushes did we have this game? I mean, come the **** on, stuff like that there is no excuse for. I think Romo threw that pick on the 1 yard line, really? Barber? With better playcalling, and Folk missing that bunny it's a game in the 4th, those are the two areas that stick out in my head as to why this wasn't at least close in the final moments.


Lots of other bad things I noticed, but those were key to me. Austin is getting doubled yes, but I would like him to start to pick up some more of the little things great WR's do, so we'll have to watch his development over the last part of the season.


Still in 1st place, yes it was a ****** game vs a beatable team, but this is the NFL. I won't be upset about it very long honestly because the big picture is more important, I just want to see if we correct our mistakes. But the lack of rushes this game was irresponsible by Garrett, we have 3 RB's and that's the best he can do?
Love this post! Glad we have some level headed guys around here.

Talking Cowboys is so great isn't it? Win or lose... plenty of stuff to talk about.

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 08:09 PM
The bottom line is that we need to be able to actually run the ball more often and with greater efficiency to take some pressure off Tony. I don't know how we're gonna do that without Marc though.
Run straight behind Gurode or run to the left. If Kosier can't open things up next to Flo, then he is what I thought he was. lol. I feel like Denny Green.

Or run to the left with Davis pulling to the left.

E-Man
11-15-2009, 08:16 PM
Injuries are the biggest concern for me after today's game. The effort sucks the big one, but like LL said this is the NFL. The Cowboys got dominated in the trenches today, but seeing how they've played all season long, I'm not going to go apeshit acting like this will happen all season long unless it happens 3 weeks in a row. The biggest thing is how Jenkins is doing. Right now we see him playing at a high level, and the team can't afford to lose him now. Columbo's injury already leaves a huge void, they don't need another big one happening.

E-Man
11-15-2009, 08:22 PM
The bottom line is that we need to be able to actually run the ball more often and with greater efficiency to take some pressure off Tony. I don't know how we're gonna do that without Marc though.

The three backs only ran the ball 11 times between them all. 11 times. Garrett just sucks, and those three deserve better. We've seen him abandon the run too often, and I'm getting sick of it happening.

umphrey
11-15-2009, 08:23 PM
I wouldn't feel too bad about this game if I were you guys. Your line looked like injuries were a big factor. And I thought Scandrick played better than what it looked like. I remember him being the victim on some outstanding plays by GB players that would have burned a lot of CBs. I thought he had pretty good coverage and was in good position on a number of plays.

The refs did a really poor job on this one too. I don't think they gave us the game or anything, but it seemed like they were on our side. I wouldn't bring it up if I didn't think they looked incompetent today as you could see they reviewed 2 (!!) plays that weren't even eligible. It reminded me of the first year they put in the challenge rules.

Good game

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 08:40 PM
DMN blog is funny, when we win were a SB team and one of the league's best, Romo finally turned the corner, when we lose we need to fire Wade, Garrett, trade Romo, and were a pathetic team lol.


Seriously though, at least Philly lost. Guess me and D had that same feeling about this game for a reason. Roy had a chance to make some plays and get us out of a slump but 2 plays that should NEVER happen. Still he's starting to look more comfortable and involved, it's not like he lost the game for us.


How many rushes did we have this game? I mean, come the **** on, stuff like that there is no excuse for. I think Romo threw that pick on the 1 yard line, really? Barber? With better playcalling, and Folk missing that bunny it's a game in the 4th, those are the two areas that stick out in my head as to why this wasn't at least close in the final moments.


Lots of other bad things I noticed, but those were key to me. Austin is getting doubled yes, but I would like him to start to pick up some more of the little things great WR's do, so we'll have to watch his development over the last part of the season.


Still in 1st place, yes it was a ****** game vs a beatable team, but this is the NFL. I won't be upset about it very long honestly because the big picture is more important, I just want to see if we correct our mistakes. But the lack of rushes this game was irresponsible by Garrett, we have 3 RB's and that's the best he can do?

If Miles Austin had done what Roy Williams did I am not sure the reaction would be the same. Roy Williams did cost us this game b/c he drained momentum TWICE in the game. Folk also is getting most annoying with his erratic play. 14 of 18 is not very good.

Folk make his FG, Roy does not fumble and we are talking 6-3 at half at minimum and get the ball to start the second half. We also are able to run more in the second half which probably eliminates the the Romo fumble.

Momentum is important and Folk/Williams KILLED US.

herniateddisc
11-15-2009, 08:42 PM
Love this post! Glad we have some level headed guys around here.

Talking Cowboys is so great isn't it? Win or lose... plenty of stuff to talk about.

Right. Yah.

dpl85
11-15-2009, 08:45 PM
The good news is I'm going to the Washington game. The bad news is I'm going to the Washington game. I've often been bad luck for the team as they seem to lose more when I see them in person for some reason. Seriously though we better be ready to play against the Redskins. I think the Skins are top ten defensively so I don't expect it to be particularly high scoring.

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 08:51 PM
The good news is I'm going to the Washington game. The bad news is I'm going to the Washington game. I've often been bad luck for the team as they seem to lose more when I see them in person for some reason. Seriously though we better be ready to play against the Redskins. I think the Skins are top ten defensively so I don't expect it to be particularly high scoring.
Haha. If we lose to the Redskins and Raiders at home then we don't deserve crap.

We should be 8-3 in 2 weeks. Lookin' golden.

TitleTown088
11-16-2009, 12:32 AM
The game will be our Ram game from last year.

Oh come on now. The Packers don't suck that much. :)

Modano
11-16-2009, 02:14 AM
I wouldn't put too much weight on this loss. You can't expect to win every game. Look at the Saints, they survived a horrible Rams team. Yesterday game was just "one of those games". The important thing is to bounce back, bad games happen all the time. After all we have just won once in Lambeau and we have had some great teams that weren't able to win there. As I said, I think the missed FG set the tone for the entire offense, they couldn't find a rhythm. The defense played good, they wore down at the end because they were on the field for 30+ minutes. And the last TD we allowed is on the offense.

thule
11-16-2009, 02:48 AM
I just want to point out my highlight of the game. Anthony Spencer...what a game...he was all over the field today...he might not be a sack artist like Merriman...but he is a stud SOLB or atleast played like one today. That is promising...after starting 8 games he looks very comfortable.

Davis moving to LT for a play today is forshadowing. I can see it happening next year already.

Nothing has changed on the offense from last year. Still pass heavy. Still plagued by penalties. I know people have been excited about Garrett so far this year but like I said he should have went with Stewart. Either that or he has to be the HC and get an experienced guy like cam cameron...someone who can dictate the pace of a game. My big problem with Garrett is that his gameplan is so set on execution that if the team fails he can't overcome it and thus has to abandon him gameplan. This game isn't played on paper. You have to be able to mix and match. It's like he is playing chess but already has all his moves scripted...if for whatever reason we aren't in controll of the game and his loses faith in his gameplan he forces the issue by passing the ball and trying to gain that controll so he can get back to his gameplan. It is a classic case of inexperience imo. He is smart enough to make adjustments...but abandoning your gameplan in games that are clearly in reach is ignorant.

Macarthur
11-16-2009, 09:26 AM
Well, that certainly sucked the big one. However, it's a long season and there's no need to jump off the cliff.

I may be in the minority, but I think Free will do just fine. Let's not forget, the guy was one of the most athletic OTs in the draft that year. They may actually be able to do some things that take advantage of his athleticism.

In fact, I'm wondering if he does do well, why not try him at LT and move Flo to RT? Flo looked really old and slow yesterday.

herniateddisc
11-26-2009, 10:11 PM
You call what Williams is having as "success?" The guy is like ANTI-MOMENTUM. You know eventually he is going to blow a big play .... today TWO.

You know, I see teams like Houston get the ball to Andre Johnson regardless of coverage b/c they put him in the hots routes. Same as Fitz -- which is why Boldin is angry and jealosu.

Mike Irvin used to say he would switch X/Y with Harper when he wanted the ball because he knew where the "hot" read was going with the ball. He knew certain routes where were the PLAYMAKER was needed.

That is what I want done with Austin. Get him the ball 8-10 times per game and spread the rest out over the others as needed. Alvin would get a few but just that few ....

Not saying close your eyes and throw to Austin but you need to make a better effort than we have last two weeks.

Ahem. Austin is the man.