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P-L
11-15-2009, 04:31 PM
Me and DChess did this two years ago and I believe Prince Fielder did it last year. Who is interested this year? I'll post details after I gauge the amount of interest.

Alright, here goes:

This is where you can improve or rebuild one of the MLB teams through trades and free agency. I will post a list of available free agents shortly after all the teams are filled. I plan on being the trade and free agent commissioner. I do not plan on taking a team, but I will if we need to fill a team or two towards the end. If that happens I will ask for someone else to make decisions on the free agents I bid on and/or the trades I am involved in.

Free Agency works like this: Every team will e-mail (preferred) or PM me a list of free agents that their team would like to sign. I'll explain the application process in detail a little later on. But basically, you'll be sending me contract offers (years, dollars, no trade clauses, incentives, etc.) and a short blurb on why that player should sign with your team. I plan on making this a little realistic, but I still want everyone to have fun. Small payroll teams will still be considered for plenty of free agents (don't worry) but I don't think I'm going to let the Marlins sign John Lackey for 5 years, $100 million. That's too unrealistic.

Trades will work like this: If you and another team agree on a trade, send me the proposal. If I deem the deal to be fair and reasonable, then I'm going to pass it. Again, I want this to be fun so I plan on being pretty liberal with trades. Don't think I'm going to let you trade for Alex Rodriguez though.

Teams
Atlanta Braves - Jensen
Arizona Diamondbacks - fenikz
Baltimore Orioles - fischbowl
Boston Red Sox - P-L
Chicago Cubs - fischbowl
Chicago White Sox - T-RICH49
Cincinnati Reds - redbills
Cleveland Indians - The Dude Abides
Colorado Rockies - iBoldin
Detroit Tigers - princefielder28
Florida Marlins - P-L
Houston Astros - P-L
Kansas City Royals - T-RICH49
Los Angeles Angels - Borat
Los Angeles Dodgers - aNYtitan
Milwaukee Brewers - princefielder28
Minnesota Twins - scottyboy
New York Mets - LTgiants
New York Yankees - aNYtitan
Oakland A's - nobodyinparticular
Philadelphia Phillies - tjsunstein
Pittsburgh Pirates - HinesWardJr
San Diego Padres - fenikz
San Francisco Giants - Borat
Seattle Mariners - Brodeur
St. Louis Cardinals - Zycho32
Tampa Bay Rays - D-Unit
Texas Rangers - D-Unit
Toronto Blue Jays - Chucky
Washington Nationals - Zycho32

Borat
11-15-2009, 04:53 PM
I'm in. Giants please.

princefielder28
11-15-2009, 04:59 PM
I'd love to be the Crew

redbills
11-15-2009, 05:00 PM
I did the Reds for the trade deadline thing, I'll do it again.

scottyboy
11-15-2009, 05:04 PM
i'm interested. I know there are tons of yankees fans here, so I could pick up a team left over if need be

P-L
11-15-2009, 06:08 PM
Alright, if everyone could post a couple of teams that they would be willing to do then it would be appreciated. This isn't necessarily first come, first serve so I want to try and get everyone a team.

Zycho32
11-15-2009, 06:26 PM
...what the heck. Nationals, Royals, or Mariners.

P-L
11-15-2009, 06:51 PM
Ok, first post updated.

T-RICH49
11-15-2009, 07:13 PM
Royals please

D-Unit
11-15-2009, 07:46 PM
Rangers GM on deck!

Brodeur
11-15-2009, 09:10 PM
I'll be in as the Mariners if I can be.

fischbowl
11-15-2009, 10:03 PM
Orioles!!!!!!!

tjsunstein
11-15-2009, 10:06 PM
Phillies por favor.

aNYtitan
11-15-2009, 10:12 PM
C'mon who else but the Yanks for me? Hopefully this can get started

fischbowl
11-15-2009, 10:15 PM
C'mon who else but the Yanks for me? Hopefully this can get started

About like 5 other people I can think of to start.....

Chucky
11-15-2009, 10:21 PM
Blue Jays please

nobodyinparticular
11-15-2009, 10:43 PM
Can I get the Oakland A's?

Hines
11-15-2009, 11:07 PM
You know who I will be.

fenikz
11-15-2009, 11:20 PM
ze Diamondbacks

aNYtitan
11-15-2009, 11:41 PM
About like 5 other people I can think of to start.....

LOL, thanks

Crickett
11-16-2009, 12:32 AM
I don't think I'm going to let the Marlins sign John Lackey for 5 years, $100 million. That's too unrealistic.


What about something like this?
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/27656

redbills
11-16-2009, 02:44 PM
about when will it start?

fischbowl
11-16-2009, 02:54 PM
I'll take 2nd and 3rd teams if necessary

D-Unit
11-16-2009, 03:01 PM
So how do I do this so that I don't upset anyone?

fischbowl
11-16-2009, 03:03 PM
So how do I do this so that I don't upset anyone?

I'm always the one who ends up upset by you so let me clarify for the 59th time. Realism is key, son!

P-L
11-16-2009, 03:31 PM
about when will it start?
Well give it another day or two to fill teams. If teams aren't filled by Wednesday then some us can start doubling up. After that I'll give a few days for trading and the first round of free agent applications.

D-Unit
11-16-2009, 03:36 PM
I'm always the one who ends up upset by you so let me clarify for the 59th time. Realism is key, son!
Even transactions that occur in real life get people upset. So what is realism?

Realism is controversial.

redbills
11-16-2009, 03:36 PM
Well give it another day or two to fill teams. If teams aren't filled by Wednesday then some us can start doubling up. After that I'll give a few days for trading and the first round of free agent applications.

cool, thanks.


Reds suck and are trying to cut payroll again : ( .

Brodeur
11-16-2009, 03:46 PM
I think realism would be trading Rob Moore for Joe Mauer and Justin Morneau. Something like that.

nobodyinparticular
11-17-2009, 11:12 AM
Even transactions that occur in real life get people upset. So what is realism?

Realism is controversial.

I'm sensing a few A's-Rangers hookups for trades this offseason... ;)

P-L
11-17-2009, 09:32 PM
No one else wants in? I guess I'll take a team then, before I start giving people multiple ones.

iBoldin
11-17-2009, 09:40 PM
I'll take Colorado. I've never done a MLB off-season mock before, but I've done a couple of the NFL ones here, and the NHL one.

aNYtitan
11-17-2009, 10:09 PM
I'll take another team, cause I feel like we will need to double up. Off the top of my head, the three top teams I would want would be LAD, FLA or CHC, in no order, so whatever teams are left to be taken, I'm fine with taking one

P-L
11-18-2009, 01:56 PM
People can start taking multiple teams if they want. We need all the teams filled to get this going.

The Dude Abides
11-18-2009, 02:55 PM
I'll be the Tribe and help you guys, even though we have no cash to do anything

fenikz
11-18-2009, 02:59 PM
I'll take the Padres

Adrian Gonzalez, Kevin Kouzmanoff, Heath Bell, Brian Giles, Chris Young on the block

fischbowl
11-18-2009, 03:22 PM
I'll take the Cubbies

LTgiants
11-18-2009, 04:05 PM
I will take the mets

P-L
11-18-2009, 04:54 PM
I need scotty to pick from the remaining teams.

Hines
11-18-2009, 04:55 PM
Can we start developing our trade block here or will there be a thread for that?

Edit: Nevermind, I see it.

Jensen
11-18-2009, 05:13 PM
I'll take a team if you guys need more people.

EDIT: I'll take the Braves.

P-L
11-18-2009, 05:30 PM
Seven more teams need to be filled. Anyone else want to take a second one?

scottyboy
11-18-2009, 05:40 PM
hmmm I will take...eh, what the hell, the Twins

Borat
11-18-2009, 05:47 PM
Seven more teams need to be filled. Anyone else want to take a second one?

I'll take the angels, but I'll be away until Saturday morning.

P-L
11-18-2009, 07:28 PM
I'll take the angels, but I'll be away until Saturday morning.
No problem, the deadline for the first round of free agent applications probably won't be until sunday or monday night. I want to give people plenty of time to work trades if they want.

princefielder28
11-18-2009, 07:39 PM
I'm willing to take the Tigers as a second team

T-RICH49
11-18-2009, 07:47 PM
I'll take the Rays as a 2nd team

Zycho32
11-18-2009, 09:19 PM
I'll take the Cardinals as a 2nd Team

Hines
11-18-2009, 09:27 PM
Matt Capps and Ryan Doumit are on the the trade block.

P-L
11-18-2009, 10:38 PM
If someone wants to take the White Sox or the Astros, I'll take the other and we can get this started.

T-RICH49
11-18-2009, 11:09 PM
If someone wants to take the White Sox or the Astros, I'll take the other and we can get this started.

can I trade the Rays for White Sox as my 2nd team?

P-L
11-18-2009, 11:24 PM
can I trade the Rays for White Sox as my 2nd team?
Yeah. So Rays or Astros need owners.

Also, I updated the free agent list. It should be complete. It's probably not perfect, so let me know if there any mistakes.

Brodeur
11-18-2009, 11:28 PM
To correct Fenikz in the trade block thread, Yusmeiro Petit is a Mariner.

D-Unit
11-18-2009, 11:59 PM
I'll take the Rays too. Let's start

P-L
11-19-2009, 12:48 PM
***ANNOUNCEMENT***


Alright, let the trading begin and free agent signing begin!!!


Trades can be sent to me at any time and I will accept or reject them as I get them. The first round of free agent applications will be due at 9:00 PM EST on Monday November 23. Remember e-mail them to mlbmocknfldc@gmail.com.

nobodyinparticular
11-19-2009, 01:50 PM
***ANNOUNCEMENT***


Alright, let the trading begin and free agent signing begin!!!


Trades can be sent to me at any time and I will accept or reject them as I get them. The first round of free agent applications will be due at 9:00 PM EST on Monday November 23. Remember e-mail them to mlbmocknfldc@gmail.com.

Cue salivating...

This is going to be lots of fun!

Brodeur
11-19-2009, 01:52 PM
I want lots and lots of trades now. And Seattle has a decent amount of money to spend this offseason as well as the fact that I'd trade anyone not named Franky Gutierrez.

redbills
11-19-2009, 03:21 PM
Looking to move some guys.
Francisco Cordero, Brandon Phillips, Aaron Harang, Bronson Arroyo, Arthur Rhodes. All can be had.
PM with offers.

Chucky
11-19-2009, 03:23 PM
Well....Start making offers for Doc

P-L
11-19-2009, 03:24 PM
The Red Sox are willing to deal Jonathan Papelbon and/or David Ortiz for the right price. We are also looking for an impact bat at 1B or LF.

The Marlins are actively shopping Dan Uggla and are willing to listen to offers for Josh Johnson. Trading Hanley Ramirez is not out of the question, but we would require quite the king's ransom.

D-Unit
11-19-2009, 04:05 PM
Well....Start making offers for Doc
I can't. Somebody will complain that it's too unrealistic for me.

Jensen
11-19-2009, 04:28 PM
Braves are looking to move one of Javier Vazquez/Derek Lowe and Kelly Johnson. PM me if you're interested.

Hines
11-19-2009, 04:32 PM
Matt Capps is on the block.

P-L
11-19-2009, 04:59 PM
Is anyone willing to be an assistant trade commissioner? I'm working on a few deals, so I don't want to make the decision on my own trades.

nobodyinparticular
11-19-2009, 05:01 PM
As always, Oakland will be active in the trade market. Everyone is available.

T-RICH49
11-19-2009, 06:34 PM
Will listen to offers for everyone but Greinke, Soria and Butler

nobodyinparticular
11-19-2009, 06:38 PM
Will listen to offers for everyone but Greinke, Soria and Butler

I'll one-up you...

Will listen to offers for everyone--majors and minors.

Brodeur
11-19-2009, 07:14 PM
Will listen to offers for everyone but Greinke, Soria and Butler

I would actually think it would be better to trade Soria but that's just me (no I don't want him).

Tampa 2 4 life
11-19-2009, 07:37 PM
D-Unit just told me I can grab the Rays. So you'll have to deal with me now!

D-Unit
11-19-2009, 07:47 PM
Jarrod Saltalamacchia is on the block.

Rangers needs: CF, DH, SP, RP

nobodyinparticular
11-19-2009, 09:35 PM
Jarrod Saltalamacchia is on the block.

Rangers needs: CF, DH, SP, RP

You jerkface! I can't believe you dropped the Rays after all we've been through!

;)

aNYtitan
11-19-2009, 10:39 PM
Please, if you want to get in contact with me, email me via darkromeo2688@yahoo.com. It is a much quicker way to get in touch with me for say trades

iBoldin
11-20-2009, 10:24 AM
Willing to move guys like Helton and Hawpe. PM is the best system, but you can also reach me at omunro9@hotmail.com. I'll get back to you ASAP.

Tampa 2 4 life
11-20-2009, 10:58 AM
Is anyone willing to be an assistant trade commissioner? I'm working on a few deals, so I don't want to make the decision on my own trades.

I'd be down as an assistant.

Giantsfan1080
11-20-2009, 01:19 PM
Is anyone willing to be an assistant trade commissioner? I'm working on a few deals, so I don't want to make the decision on my own trades.

I can help also but I won't be home till late tonight.

The Dude Abides
11-20-2009, 03:04 PM
PM or IM me (bigrick0016) to deal with the Indians

princefielder28
11-20-2009, 05:42 PM
Brewers are looking for pitching help...willing to move one of their top prospects, Mat Gamel.

D-Unit
11-20-2009, 06:36 PM
With Justin Smoak on the near horizon, Chris Davis is on the block.

Brodeur
11-20-2009, 06:42 PM
I can't even get responses to my PM's about trades. That hurts.

T-RICH49
11-20-2009, 07:19 PM
KC will now listen on offers on Soria but will need to be wowed

areas of need

SS OF SP RP

redbills
11-20-2009, 07:22 PM
Reds will move anyone.

Hines
11-20-2009, 07:48 PM
Matt Capps is on the block.

Hines
11-20-2009, 08:23 PM
With the Pirates' moves today, can I take the players they got rid of off my depth chart, or do I keep them?

Jensen
11-20-2009, 08:33 PM
Braves are still open to trading Vazquez. Mainly looking for a big bat at 1B or OF.

Tampa 2 4 life
11-20-2009, 11:07 PM
What is our policy on getting outside help?

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2009/11/20/1167151/mock-mlb-offseason-should-as-trade

Chucky
11-20-2009, 11:16 PM
So no one is going to make legit offers for Halladay?

LTgiants
11-20-2009, 11:18 PM
So no one is going to make legit offers for Halladay?

No. No one is going to give you kings ransom for him.

fischbowl
11-20-2009, 11:24 PM
What is our policy on getting outside help?

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2009/11/20/1167151/mock-mlb-offseason-should-as-trade

Ha, I post there

Tampa 2 4 life
11-20-2009, 11:36 PM
Ha, I post there

I believe what he's forgetting is that only 1/4 of the people that post there know what they are talking about.

fischbowl
11-20-2009, 11:49 PM
I believe what he's forgetting is that only 1/4 of the people that post there know what they are talking about.

Part of the reason why I barely go anymore. I do love John Sickels though

Brodeur
11-21-2009, 12:39 AM
I believe what he's forgetting is that only 1/4 of the people that post there know what they are talking about.

Minor League Ball comment section is no different from any other SB Nation section really. Especially with guys like that P Brady douchebag on DRaysBay.

Giantsfan1080
11-21-2009, 12:44 AM
I used to love Sickels but he's gone down a lot.

D-Unit
11-21-2009, 01:07 AM
What is our policy on getting outside help?

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2009/11/20/1167151/mock-mlb-offseason-should-as-trade
That is Friggen awesome! I love you nip! That's sweet!

aNYtitan
11-21-2009, 02:13 AM
So no one is going to make legit offers for Halladay?

Because if you want something along the lines of what the Indians got from the Expos in the Bartolo Colon trade or Oakland from the Dan Haren to Diamondbacks trade, nobody really wants to move that many pieces in this league any more. If you want what the Twins got for Johan Santana, then now we are talking. I mean c'mon, people are asking for a lot for other starters on the block (Matsuzaka, Vasquez, etc.)

Borat
11-21-2009, 03:26 AM
I'm back and will evaluate the Angels and Giants and start up some trade talks on Saturday. NIP, I'll look at your proposals too. Haven't given them much thought yet.

Chucky, take a look at Anaheim. They could be legit contenders for Halladay in real life, so maybe we can work out a deal.

D-Unit
11-21-2009, 02:49 PM
If you're online and willing to talk trade now, please post something saying so.

Chucky
11-21-2009, 02:58 PM
Because if you want something along the lines of what the Indians got from the Expos in the Bartolo Colon trade or Oakland from the Dan Haren to Diamondbacks trade, nobody really wants to move that many pieces in this league any more. If you want what the Twins got for Johan Santana, then now we are talking. I mean c'mon, people are asking for a lot for other starters on the block (Matsuzaka, Vasquez, etc.)

I definately want something similar to the Colon and haren trades. the only way in which I will accept less than that is if you are willing to take on Vernon Wells contract. I have no problem hanging onto Doc and trading him at the deadline

nobodyinparticular
11-21-2009, 04:27 PM
Because if you want something along the lines of what the Indians got from the Expos in the Bartolo Colon trade or Oakland from the Dan Haren to Diamondbacks trade, nobody really wants to move that many pieces in this league any more. If you want what the Twins got for Johan Santana, then now we are talking. I mean c'mon, people are asking for a lot for other starters on the block (Matsuzaka, Vasquez, etc.)

Anyone who is trying to give away the "Santana trio" for a guy like Halladay is deluded in thinking that is the benchmark for elite pitchers. EVERYONE knows that the Twins were taken in the Santana deal. The idea is a good one--elite pitching prospect, elite position prospect and 2 formerly top pitching prospects who were very close to the bigs, but the prospects actually traded did not actually fit the "elite" tags they were given.

A trade for Halladay should start with something like Neftali Feliz, Justin Smoak, Derek Holland/Matt Harrison and then at least one more piece--Martin Perez, Julio Borbon, Max Ramirez, Tommy Hunter or Taylor Teagarden.

Basically, the trade has to start with 2 5-star prospect and then 2 4-stars or a 4 and 2 3s.

Chucky
11-21-2009, 04:43 PM
Anyone who is trying to give away the "Santana trio" for a guy like Halladay is deluded in thinking that is the benchmark for elite pitchers. EVERYONE knows that the Twins were taken in the Santana deal. The idea is a good one--elite pitching prospect, elite position prospect and 2 formerly top pitching prospects who were very close to the bigs, but the prospects actually traded did not actually fit the "elite" tags they were given.

A trade for Halladay should start with something like Neftali Feliz, Justin Smoak, Derek Holland/Matt Harrison and then at least one more piece--Martin Perez, Julio Borbon, Max Ramirez, Tommy Hunter or Taylor Teagarden.

Basically, the trade has to start with 2 5-star prospect and then 2 4-stars or a 4 and 2 3s.

I offered D-Unit a better offer than that and he turned it down.


Are the A's interested in Doc?

The Dude Abides
11-21-2009, 04:45 PM
Anyone who is trying to give away the "Santana trio" for a guy like Halladay is deluded in thinking that is the benchmark for elite pitchers. EVERYONE knows that the Twins were taken in the Santana deal. The idea is a good one--elite pitching prospect, elite position prospect and 2 formerly top pitching prospects who were very close to the bigs, but the prospects actually traded did not actually fit the "elite" tags they were given.

A trade for Halladay should start with something like Neftali Feliz, Justin Smoak, Derek Holland/Matt Harrison and then at least one more piece--Martin Perez, Julio Borbon, Max Ramirez, Tommy Hunter or Taylor Teagarden.

Basically, the trade has to start with 2 5-star prospect and then 2 4-stars or a 4 and 2 3s.

If that is the case, then he is never getting dealt. No team would give up that much just for a year. Then give up 20+ mil a year to sign him. A deal like the Twins deal is more likely.

Brodeur
11-21-2009, 04:54 PM
Please, if you want to get in contact with me, email me via darkromeo2688@yahoo.com. It is a much quicker way to get in touch with me for say trades

I offered you something via e-mail just now, let's see if one of my trade offers gets some sort of a response.

D-Unit
11-21-2009, 04:57 PM
Anyone who is trying to give away the "Santana trio" for a guy like Halladay is deluded in thinking that is the benchmark for elite pitchers. EVERYONE knows that the Twins were taken in the Santana deal. The idea is a good one--elite pitching prospect, elite position prospect and 2 formerly top pitching prospects who were very close to the bigs, but the prospects actually traded did not actually fit the "elite" tags they were given.

A trade for Halladay should start with something like Neftali Feliz, Justin Smoak, Derek Holland/Matt Harrison and then at least one more piece--Martin Perez, Julio Borbon, Max Ramirez, Tommy Hunter or Taylor Teagarden.

Basically, the trade has to start with 2 5-star prospect and then 2 4-stars or a 4 and 2 3s.
I would hunt down Jon Daniels and murder him myself if he did something that stupid.

D-Unit
11-21-2009, 05:08 PM
Brewers gave up Matt Laporta for Sabathia. Halladay should get something similar.

princefielder28
11-21-2009, 05:40 PM
The Brewers have changed their mind and are willing to listen to offers for Prince Fielder but it'll have to be impressive w/ pitching

Chucky
11-21-2009, 05:42 PM
Brewers gave up Matt Laporta for Sabathia. Halladay should get something similar.

That was for a half a season. I am offering a full year of Halladay plus a contract negotiation period

fenikz
11-21-2009, 05:45 PM
anyone on IRC go to #mlbmock

60 second pm delay is annoying

redbills
11-21-2009, 06:02 PM
Harang on the block along with all the reds, want prospects.

D-Unit
11-21-2009, 06:30 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4677979

This makes it even harder for the Jays to get something good for Halladay.

fischbowl
11-21-2009, 06:34 PM
Cubs trying to shop Milton Bradley.......

redbills
11-21-2009, 06:50 PM
Reds are taking last offers for Aaron Harang.

Chucky
11-21-2009, 06:51 PM
Cubs trying to shop Milton Bradley.......

Milton for Vernon?

fischbowl
11-21-2009, 07:42 PM
Milton for Vernon?

A bad contract for a worse contract?

Brodeur
11-21-2009, 07:52 PM
A bad contract for a worse contract?

Hey I offered you bad for bad.

Chucky
11-21-2009, 08:32 PM
A bad contract for a worse contract?

A bad contract with even worse character for a worse contract and a good character player

Brodeur
11-21-2009, 08:42 PM
A bad contract with even worse character for a worse contract and a good character player

Milton Bradley may be a "bad" character and while his contract is bad, it's not GM fire bad like Vernon Wells. Wells may have the worst contract in the history of sports.

fischbowl
11-22-2009, 10:24 AM
So the Diamondbacks trade their best prospect, with other players, for a mediocre 2B?

LTgiants
11-22-2009, 04:04 PM
anyone need a second basemen?

tjsunstein
11-22-2009, 04:15 PM
Phillies open to trading. Make offers or inquiries by PM.

fischbowl
11-22-2009, 06:53 PM
Cubs are shopping Aaron Heilman

Orioles are looking to trade Chris Ray and will take offers for Luke Scott

The Dude Abides
11-22-2009, 07:41 PM
Kerry Wood is on the block, already had some inquires

im: bigrick0016
or PM

D-Unit
11-22-2009, 08:43 PM
It seems to me that people are expecting too much out of their players.

aNYtitan
11-22-2009, 08:47 PM
It seems to me that people are expecting too much out of their players.

Of their current players or when trading players?

Jensen
11-22-2009, 09:32 PM
Braves still willing to deal one of Vazquez/Lowe. Also looking for a power bat at 1B or LF.

princefielder28
11-22-2009, 09:56 PM
scotty and i agree to go through with the Gomez/Hardy trade that occurred about two weeks ago..if you want it formerly submitted just let us know

tjsunstein
11-23-2009, 01:05 AM
PM me if interested in any Phillies.

P-L
11-23-2009, 11:37 AM
***ANNOUNCEMENT***


I will be making a decisions on the first round of free agents tonight at around 10:30. Make sure you get your offers in. Right now, I only have offers from 13 teams.

The Dude Abides
11-23-2009, 12:48 PM
***ANNOUNCEMENT***


I will be making a decisions on the first round of free agents tonight at around 10:30. Make sure you get your offers in. Right now, I only have offers from 13 teams.

I didn't even know free agency was open. What am I supposed to do? Like, is there a format, or do I just PM you "Matt Holliday for 12 years and 300 billion dollars"?

redbills
11-23-2009, 12:50 PM
go to the FA thread.

D-Unit
11-23-2009, 01:35 PM
C Jarrod Saltalamacchia
C Max Ramirez
C Taylor Teagarden
1B Chris Davis
2B/SS Joaquin Arias
SP Kevin Millwood
SP Brandon McCarthy
SP Matt Harrison
SP Blake Beavan
SP Eric Hurley
SP Thomas Diamond

All of these guys are on the block. Looking for a young 3B, a CF and pitching.

fischbowl
11-23-2009, 01:40 PM
C Jarrod Saltalamacchia
C Max Ramirez
C Taylor Teagarden
1B Chris Davis
2B/SS Joaquin Arias
SP Kevin Millwood
SP Brandon McCarthy
SP Matt Harrison
SP Blake Beavan
SP Eric Hurley
SP Thomas Diamond

All of these guys are on the block. Looking for a young 3B, a CF and pitching.

Cubs claimed Thomas Diamond off waivers in August

D-Unit
11-23-2009, 02:09 PM
OK, thanks Fisch. Also, since you're the "official unrealistic trade hater", can you tell me if trading any of these other guys is unrealistic. k thx.

fischbowl
11-23-2009, 03:37 PM
OK, thanks Fisch. Also, since you're the "official unrealistic trade hater", can you tell me if trading any of these other guys is unrealistic. k thx.

Teagarden and Saltalamacchia? Really? Beavan? Really?

princefielder28
11-23-2009, 03:57 PM
anyone wanna swap bad contracts and take on Jeff Suppan???

D-Unit
11-23-2009, 05:07 PM
Teagarden and Saltalamacchia? Really? Beavan? Really?
Teagarden or Salty. Not both. Really.

Beavan. Of course if the offer is right. There is some disconcern about him since his recent lost of power. But now nobody is gonna want him. But I'd rather tell you why, than to look like you're making me look like a fool for offering him.

Wootylicous
11-23-2009, 09:49 PM
what the

erik bedard 36 million for 3 years ?

D-Unit
11-23-2009, 09:51 PM
what the

erik bedard 36 million for 3 years ?
It's only for 9 starts since he always gets hurt anyways. LOL.

Wootylicous
11-23-2009, 09:53 PM
paid a lot to be on IR much of the time.

aNYtitan
11-23-2009, 09:54 PM
Hey P-L, for free agents that we sent offers to and we didn't see tonight, do we keep negotiating or what?

P-L
11-23-2009, 09:56 PM
If you feel like you need to up your offer than you may re-send that information to me. If you feel that you have the best offer, than don't do anything.

Brodeur
11-23-2009, 10:07 PM
Those contracts for Bedard and Harden are insane.

Tampa 2 4 life
11-23-2009, 11:22 PM
Those contracts for Bedard and Harden are insane.

What's equally puzzling is why the Dodgers would want Harden in the first place with their droves of pitching, and how the brewers could possibly afford both Bedard, and whatever the hell Fielder will get in Arb.

Edit: At least Ned Colletti making a stupid signing is realistic.

Brodeur
11-23-2009, 11:30 PM
Looking to trade Jose Lopez and Brandon Morrow if anyone is interested.

princefielder28
11-23-2009, 11:37 PM
What's equally puzzling is why the Dodgers would want Harden in the first place with their droves of pitching, and how the brewers could possibly afford both Bedard, and whatever the hell Fielder will get in Arb.

Edit: At least Ned Colletti making a stupid signing is realistic.

Prince doesn't go through arb. this year; he signed a 2 year deal last off-season

As far as being able to afford Bedard, the Brewers cut ties with Mike Cameron, Braden Looper, JJ Hardy and Jason Kendall and it's not like their new management hasn't been willing to spend money.

The Dude Abides
11-24-2009, 01:37 AM
Prince doesn't go through arb. this year; he signed a 2 year deal last off-season

As far as being able to afford Bedard, the Brewers cut ties with Mike Cameron, Braden Looper, JJ Hardy and Jason Kendall and it's not like their new management hasn't been willing to spend money.

The problem is more that he has made 22 starts in 2 years, and won't be healthy to begin the year

D-Unit
11-24-2009, 02:10 AM
If Milwaukee offered him that contract and the commissioner approved it, then what's the problem? Disgruntled teams who didn't get him? That's what it seems like to me. *shrug*

The Dude Abides
11-24-2009, 02:30 AM
If Milwaukee offered him that contract and the commissioner approved it, then what's the problem? Disgruntled teams who didn't get him? That's what it seems like to me. *shrug*


yeah, that's it. There's huge demand for him.

fischbowl
11-24-2009, 09:28 AM
Cubs are shopping Kosuke Fukudome, Aaron Miles, and Micah Hoffpauir

Tampa 2 4 life
11-24-2009, 11:30 AM
The Chone FIggins contract leaves me befuddled.

The Dude Abides
11-24-2009, 12:09 PM
The Chone FIggins contract leaves me befuddled.

I am more flummoxed than befuddled

fischbowl
11-24-2009, 12:12 PM
I am more flummoxed than befuddled

I'm more dumbfounded than flummoxed

Brodeur
11-24-2009, 12:29 PM
I'm more dumbfounded than flummoxed

I'm more flabbergasted than dumbfounded.

D-Unit
11-24-2009, 12:29 PM
At first I was flabbergasted too, then bewildered the more I thought about it... a few seconds later I was left bamboozled, confounded, dismayed, aghast and thunderstruck.

D-Unit
11-24-2009, 01:05 PM
http://www.arrowheights.org/Websites/ArrowHeights/Images/texas_rangers.jpg

The Texas Rangers are happy to announce their Free Agent acquisitions!

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Jon Daniels: We were extremely delighted with the late season boost that we got from Pudge at the end of last season. He gave us stability at a position where our young guys were struggling to make the transition and we hope to continue to see him do the same as well as help to bring them along.

Pudge Rodriguez: I am happy to be signing the last contract of my career with the Rangers. They have been and always will be "my team". Any way that I can contribute, that's what I will be trying to do. One day, I hope to be a Hall of Fame member and if that ever comes true, I will go in as a Texas Ranger!


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Jon Daniels: It's no secret that we were this close to signing Ben last year at this time. We brought over Mike Maddux as our new pitching coach last year and Ben Sheets was highly recommended to us to pursue. We did and had it not been for his injury, we would have signed him. Now that he's healthy and still available, we got right back on track. We're happy to announce today that Ben Sheets is officially a Texas Ranger. Been a long time comin'.

Ben Sheets' agent: Ben is busy signing autographs for the fans right now, and couldn't be here, but on behalf of Ben Sheets, I would like to say that he couldn't be happier to be here with the Rangers. Ben is a Texas native and has always had the desire to play in his hometown state. Both he and I are anticipating a rennaisance of sorts as he begins a fresh start with this team.

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Jon Daniels: We really tried to work the trade front to find ourselves a veteran center fielder. We spoke to the Tigers about Granderson, Dodgers about Pierre, and even the Yankees. But in the end, we felt the cost wasn't worth it. We carefully analyzed the FA market for centerfielders and felt that Ankiel was a player who fit the mold of a Texas Rangers player who was cut from the same cloth. We have a young guy who got his feet wet last year who we really like in Julio Borbon, but Borbon is still getting used to big league left hand pitching. Combined we anticipate Ankiel and Borbon to play CF for us. We could also see a scenario where both are on the field at the same time with Josh Hamilton as DH. Their play will dictate their minutes.

Rick Ankiel: Just happy to be able to continue to play out my dreams in a place where people want me. I really think playing in this ballpark will be a big thrill and I hope my bat can take advantage of it. I wish opening day was tomorrow because I'm healthy and ready to get to work. Go Rangers!

The Dude Abides
11-24-2009, 04:06 PM
I see alot of teams need a catcher, at least to be a backup. Shoppach is is available, Lou Marson for a little more.

Hines
11-24-2009, 05:06 PM
When's the next round of free agents going to be announced?

LTgiants
11-24-2009, 05:41 PM
When can I send in applications to get other guys that I may have missed or get people who are my 2nd or 3rd choice at a position i didn't get?

Hines
11-24-2009, 05:56 PM
I like how my offseason is going so far.

Matt Capps still on the block.

D-Unit
11-24-2009, 09:39 PM
Aroldis Chapman isn't on the FA listing. I know they are the Yankees and all, but what gives?

LTgiants
11-24-2009, 09:40 PM
Aroldis Chapman isn't on the FA listing. I know they are the Yankees and all, but what gives?

He was on the listing I saw it thats why I made him a offer.

Tampa 2 4 life
11-24-2009, 09:41 PM
Aroldis Chapman getting signed to an Major League deal is...Amazing.

D-Unit
11-24-2009, 09:42 PM
He was on the listing I saw it thats why I made him a offer.
Neither is Mark Prior.... :confused:

LTgiants
11-24-2009, 09:43 PM
Neither is Mark Prior.... :confused:

Now Mark Prior I am sure 100% wasn't on the list Champan was before P-L edited out who got signed.

fenikz
11-24-2009, 09:44 PM
He was on the listing I saw it thats why I made him a offer.

i made a offer too, but i knew he would go to NY or Boston

P-L
11-24-2009, 09:45 PM
Both Chapman and Prior were on the free agent list. I took them off once they signed.

Tampa 2 4 life
11-24-2009, 09:45 PM
Neither is Mark Prior.... :confused:

Mark Prior definitely was.

P-L
11-24-2009, 09:47 PM
i made a offer too, but i knew he would go to NY or Boston
Actually Arizona was second for his services. It's just that the Yankees really wanted him. They offered him $20 million more over the same number of years and said that they were willing to go higher if necessary.

Brodeur
11-24-2009, 09:49 PM
Mark Prior got a minor league contract last year and is coming off his 800th straight surgery and somehow gets a 1.5 million?

P-L
11-24-2009, 09:49 PM
Mike Lowell can be had in a trade, the Red Sox are willing pay half of his remaining salary.

redbills
11-24-2009, 09:50 PM
The Reds are done. Thoughts?

aNYtitan
11-24-2009, 11:10 PM
Mark Prior got a minor league contract last year and is coming off his 800th straight surgery and somehow gets a 1.5 million?

For the Yankees, its not exactly a big sign. Give him this chance to make it out of spring training, if not then he is out. How is it worse then giving John Smoltz the contract he got last off season?

And yeah, I wanted Chapman, no doubt about it, to give us someone to mold into either starter with potential or a dominant reliever. Its roughly the same amount f'n Kei Igawa got with his contract and bidding

Brodeur
11-24-2009, 11:26 PM
For the Yankees, its not exactly a big sign. Give him this chance to make it out of spring training, if not then he is out. How is it worse then giving John Smoltz the contract he got last off season?


How is it different? Let's see, Prior hasn't pitched in any sort of professional baseball in 3 full seasons and was dreadful in his limited appearances in 2006. Smoltz had one surgery (as opposed to **** if I know how many Prior has had) and actually pitched the previous year.

aNYtitan
11-24-2009, 11:32 PM
Ah.......


I got nothing

Wootylicous
11-25-2009, 11:49 AM
So this Chone Figgins contract is kind of pretty big.

:/

P-L
11-25-2009, 03:39 PM
I have just reached a trade agreement. I need someone other than myself to review it.

LTgiants
11-25-2009, 03:40 PM
I have just reached a trade agreement. I need someone other than myself to review it.

I can take a look at it if you want.

Brodeur
11-25-2009, 03:46 PM
I have just reached a trade agreement. I need someone other than myself to review it.

I have no problem looking at it.

fischbowl
11-25-2009, 04:17 PM
P-L, did the Cubs/Rays trade go through?

P-L
11-25-2009, 04:23 PM
Send it to me again.

Zycho32
11-25-2009, 06:02 PM
So this Chone Figgins contract is kind of pretty big.

:/

Yup, it is. It's power slugger numbers for a player who's basically a slick lead-off hitter with a good glove.

It's also an astonishingly good peace of mind for a franchise who has a massive GAP at Third Base and no obvious help from the Prospect Pool.

P-L
11-25-2009, 06:19 PM
Working on the next round of free agents now.

fenikz
11-25-2009, 06:41 PM
Think I got enough for Adrian Gonzalez?

Brodeur
11-25-2009, 06:44 PM
Think I got enough for Adrian Gonzalez?

I approved the trade but I didn't really think so. Bowden really sucks but I guess he might be decent in the massive Petco, Westmoreland and Kelly are both good to great prospects but both are very young and aren't elite prospects. Stolmy had a fairly good year but I'm pretty skeptical on him. Lars looked great before this year but man he flamed out this year.

Should have asked for Buchholz.

fenikz
11-25-2009, 06:47 PM
He offered Buchholz or Kelly, i chose Kelly, Buchholz has had enough time to prove himself and i don't think he is anything more than a #3/4 pitcher

The Dude Abides
11-25-2009, 07:03 PM
I approved the trade but I didn't really think so. Bowden really sucks but I guess he might be decent in the massive Petco, Westmoreland and Kelly are both good to great prospects but both are very young and aren't elite prospects. Stolmy had a fairly good year but I'm pretty skeptical on him. Lars looked great before this year but man he flamed out this year.

Should have asked for Buchholz.
I think you should've asked for Kelly AND Bucholz

I agree that it wasn't enough, but I disagree on Westmoreland. He's kind of far away though. I think he is legit, as he is the only person in the deal with star potential.

Westmoreland can be a power/speed CF. Kelly is a #2 (that's still really good mind you), Bowden is a back end guy, I was never terrifically high on Lars to begin with and I honestly don't know enough about Pimontel to makie an educated opinion.

P-L
11-25-2009, 07:04 PM
I will agree, the downside to this deal for San Diego is that the three best prospects they got are 20, 19, and 20 respectively. None of them are likely to contribute this year or next.

LTgiants
11-25-2009, 07:08 PM
Thnxs for stealing Mike Cameron from me P-L http://draftcountdown.com/forum/images/icons/icon9.gif

Brodeur
11-25-2009, 07:13 PM
When did the Cards start crapping out money?

Tampa 2 4 life
11-25-2009, 07:15 PM
Sox kind of raped the Padres if Kelly insists on SS.

fenikz
11-25-2009, 07:18 PM
Sox kind of raped the Padres if Kelly insists on SS.

He will be a SP, no way he stays at SS

Brodeur
11-25-2009, 07:19 PM
Sox kind of raped the Padres if Kelly insists on SS.

He could be like Cale Iorg if he stayed at short. I'm not sure if that's a compliment or not since Cale Iorg sucks.

P-L
11-25-2009, 07:24 PM
When did the Cards start crapping out money?
Honestly, I know they're not going to spend that much money. The thing is, there have been almost no offers to some of these players. John Lackey went to the Mets, because they are the only team who offered him a contract. Only four teams offered Holliday a contract. The Sox dropped out once we acquired Gonzalez and the Mets dropped out when they acquired Lackey. So it came down to the Cardinals and Giants. I would've given him to the Giants had they made a competitive offer, but theirs was unrealistically low.

With that said, Jason Bay doesn't have a standing offer right now. If anyone wants him, he might be cheaper than you orginally thought. Same thing goes for Vlad Guerrero. I know he isn't nearly the player he once was, but not a single team has made him an offer?

P-L
11-25-2009, 07:25 PM
Kelly is a pitcher all the way. It may take him another year to realize it, but he has so much more potential on the mound it's not even funny.

LTgiants
11-25-2009, 07:28 PM
Honestly, I know they're not going to spend that much money. The thing is, there have been almost no offers to some of these players. John Lackey went to the Mets, because they are the only team who offered him a contract. Only four teams offered Holliday a contract. The Sox dropped out once we acquired Gonzalez and the Mets dropped out when they acquired Lackey. So it came down to the Cardinals and Giants. I would've given him to the Giants had they made a competitive offer, but theirs was unrealistically low.

With that said, Jason Bay doesn't have a standing offer right now. If anyone wants him, he might be cheaper than you orginally thought. Same thing goes for Vlad Guerrero. I know he isn't nearly the player he once was, but not a single team has made him an offer?

I have made two offers to Bay 1 from the first email I sent now I just sent a crazy desperate one cause I need a LF

P-L
11-25-2009, 07:33 PM
You told me that you didn't want Bay if you got Lackey or Holliday. I'm not sure if I'll do any free agent signings tomorrow but I'll definitely look at your offer.

Borat
11-25-2009, 07:33 PM
Wow, I didn't think 6 years at $15M per along with a $17M highly achievable player option was "unrealistically low" for Holliday.

Hines
11-25-2009, 07:34 PM
I like what I did for the Pirates.

LTgiants
11-25-2009, 07:37 PM
You told me that you didn't want Bay if you got Lackey or Holliday. I'm not sure if I'll do any free agent signings tomorrow but I'll definitely look at your offer.

Mainly cause I didn't think it was possible that i would be able to get both bay/holiday and lackey. Mike Cameron was my backup plan if I got Lackey but you signed himhttp://draftcountdown.com/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif

P-L
11-25-2009, 07:37 PM
Wow, I didn't think 6 years at $15M per along with a $17M highly achievable player option was "unrealistically low" for Holliday.
I'd be willing to bet Holliday gets closer to $20 million per season than $15 per season. Why wouldn't he take the extra guaranteed year and extra $36 million overall?

Borat
11-25-2009, 07:39 PM
I'd be willing to bet Holliday gets closer to $20 million per season than $15 per season. Why wouldn't he take the extra guaranteed year and extra $36 million overall?

Well, obviously he'd take the bigger deal. I was just surprised when you called that offer "unrealistically low".

I was banking more on his numbers away from Coors not translating to Teixeira money.

princefielder28
11-26-2009, 07:38 PM
Too bad that we've had such few trades

aNYtitan
11-26-2009, 09:22 PM
Too bad that we've had such few trades

People have been wanting an arm and two legs for players, even the AG trade was a ton of potential in prospects for Gonzalez.

fischbowl
11-26-2009, 10:20 PM
Send it to me again.

And? 10 characters

nobodyinparticular
11-27-2009, 12:26 PM
Too bad that we've had such few trades

I'm trying, but the GMs I'm trying to get a hold of aren't responding.

D-Unit
11-27-2009, 01:14 PM
I like what I did with the Rangers:

Added:

SP Ben Sheets
OF Rick Ankiel
C Ivan Rodriguez
DH Vladimir Guererro

SP Kevin Millwood
SP Ben Sheets
SP Scott Feldman
SP Derek Holland
SP Neftali Feliz

CL Frank Francisco

C Jarrod Saltalamachia | Ivan Rodriguez
1B Chris Davis | Justin Smoak
2B Ian Kinsler | German Duran
SS Elvis Andrus | Joaquin Arias
3B Michael Young
LF Josh Hamilton | David Murphy
CF Rick Ankiel | Julio Borbon
RF Nelson Cruz
DH Vladimir Guerrero

LTgiants
11-27-2009, 01:23 PM
I was still looking to sign about two to three other people

Brodeur
11-27-2009, 01:24 PM
I'm trying, but the GMs I'm trying to get a hold of aren't responding.

Well outside of anytitan (who didn't accept), I'm pretty much in the same boat.

nobodyinparticular
11-27-2009, 01:27 PM
P-L, check your email. I sent in a couple FA offers.

nobodyinparticular
11-27-2009, 01:29 PM
Well outside of anytitan (who didn't accept), I'm pretty much in the same boat.

It sucks because this was the one way that I could really improve the A's.

The Dude Abides
11-27-2009, 03:48 PM
It sucks because this was the one way that I could really improve the A's.

I tried to trade but people kept trying to trade for people that the Indians wouldn't likely trade considering that they're cheap and under control for a while, like Big League Choo and Asdrubal Cabrera. I', still open to trading Shoppach, Peralta, or Valbuena. Hell, even Jason Donald and Lou Marson. Even though I was told that "no, they aren't even Top 100 prospects".

djp
11-27-2009, 05:21 PM
If Vlad only gets $1.5M/yr on the market, I will be in shock. The guy can still hit. He'll get at least $3M on name alone.

Brodeur
11-27-2009, 05:41 PM
So did my Delgado offer not go through?

nobodyinparticular
11-27-2009, 05:48 PM
If Vlad only gets $1.5M/yr on the market, I will be in shock. The guy can still hit. He'll get at least $3M on name alone.

Yeah, that was a bit of a shock. I just can't see that happening at all. If Jack Cust is expected to get $4million in arbitration, I can't see Guerrero getting less that that.

P-L
11-27-2009, 05:50 PM
Vlad took the only offer he received.

P-L
11-27-2009, 05:52 PM
So did my Delgado offer not go through?
Oh, I didn't realize you wanted both him and Branyon. Was it 1 year, $4 million?

fischbowl
11-27-2009, 05:53 PM
P-L, the Rays/Cubs trade?

nobodyinparticular
11-27-2009, 06:02 PM
Vlad took the only offer he received.

Did you get my FA email?

Brodeur
11-27-2009, 06:04 PM
Oh, I didn't realize you wanted both him and Branyon. Was it 1 year, $4 million?

Yeah it was.

D-Unit
11-27-2009, 06:08 PM
Did you get my FA email?
Apparently not, because Vlad is a Ranger fo' life! :D

D-Unit
11-27-2009, 06:09 PM
I like what I did with the Rangers:

Added:

SP Ben Sheets
OF Rick Ankiel
C Ivan Rodriguez
DH Vladimir Guererro

SP Kevin Millwood
SP Ben Sheets
SP Scott Feldman
SP Derek Holland
SP Neftali Feliz

CL Frank Francisco

C Jarrod Saltalamachia | Ivan Rodriguez
1B Chris Davis | Justin Smoak
2B Ian Kinsler | German Duran
SS Elvis Andrus | Joaquin Arias
3B Michael Young
LF Josh Hamilton | David Murphy
CF Rick Ankiel | Julio Borbon
RF Nelson Cruz
DH Vladimir Guerrero
Grade it and I'll grade yours.

LTgiants
11-27-2009, 07:02 PM
Oh, I didn't realize you wanted both him and Branyon. Was it 1 year, $4 million?

I made a offer for Delgado and Dotel that you didn't rule on.

P-L
11-28-2009, 10:44 AM
Ok, let me go back and see what e-mails I still have. And fisch, I accepted the Cubs/Rays trade.

redbills
11-28-2009, 10:48 AM
yea I sent i think 2 minor league contracts.

thank p-l.

redbills
11-28-2009, 10:53 AM
I like what I did with the Rangers:

Added:

SP Ben Sheets
OF Rick Ankiel
C Ivan Rodriguez
DH Vladimir Guererro

SP Kevin Millwood
SP Ben Sheets
SP Scott Feldman
SP Derek Holland
SP Neftali Feliz

CL Frank Francisco

C Jarrod Saltalamachia | Ivan Rodriguez
1B Chris Davis | Justin Smoak
2B Ian Kinsler | German Duran
SS Elvis Andrus | Joaquin Arias
3B Michael Young
LF Josh Hamilton | David Murphy
CF Rick Ankiel | Julio Borbon
RF Nelson Cruz
DH Vladimir Guerrero

Sheets is a good P, if healthy.
Ankiel is a soild player. I like him.
Rodriguez is a nice vet C.
Guerrero will be a very nice DH for you. Plus I think you got him cheap.

Overall I like like what ya did in FA. Good job.

redbills
11-28-2009, 08:41 PM
Trades
Reds Receive:
LHP Zach Braddock
C Angel Salome

Brewers Receive:
SP Aaron Harang

Free Agent Signings
SS Felipe Lopez - 2 Years, $8 Million (Yr.1 $4 Million , Yr.2 $4 Million)
RP Darren Oliver - 2 Years, $6 Million (Yr.1 $2.5 Million , Yr.2 $3.5 Million)
OF Joey Gathright - Minor League Deal

aNYtitan
11-29-2009, 10:20 AM
I made an offer to Andy Pettite P-L, and with the way the offseason went, I wouldn't doubt that it was his only offer

EDIT: Whoops, absolute fail, forgot to take a look. But my Dodgers did make an offer to Mark DeRosa

T-RICH49
11-29-2009, 10:31 AM
willing to listen to offers for Soria.looking for major league ready talent

tjsunstein
12-02-2009, 03:55 PM
Signed Schneider in this before I heard the Phillies really had any interest in him. I like to think I predicted it.

Zycho32
12-03-2009, 08:30 AM
...alright, tell me the truth. Did I outpay all other bidders for Figgins by thirty-plus million total?

I mean, I knew it was gonna take overpayment to get him the heck outta Anaheim, but I just wanna know how overboard I went. I figured, he'd get something around 8-9 Million a year, easily, being the most consistant and promising 3B available and all.