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RaiderNation
11-20-2009, 11:57 PM
Gonna be a hard game to win. Benson is out for them, but Larry Johnson should have a field day on us with the better oline. All I want to see is the offence improve with Gradkowski in there. Hopefully we can get the running game going.

Prediction: 27-13 Bengals

Stash
11-21-2009, 02:46 PM
In all likelihood we'll lose, but I agree with you I just want to see some offensive improvement without the big dummy in there. Hopefully a QB that can actually complete a pass (not saying Bruce is all that good, just better than JR) will open things up a little and we can at least make it a competitive game.

EvilNixon
11-21-2009, 02:57 PM
I have even less faith in Bruce than JR. At this point,I'd be surprised if we beat Cleveland.

bernbabybern820
11-21-2009, 04:37 PM
I sense a win here.

nobodyinparticular
11-21-2009, 04:40 PM
I think our offense with Gradkowski is going to be reminiscent of the John Shoop offense in 2006--bad to worse. I am incredibly disappointed with Russ, but Gradkowski is not going to be the savior (and neither is Frye). I just don't know if the Raiders will be able to get a first down at all. Teams will starting running the clock out in the 2nd quarter.

619
11-21-2009, 04:53 PM
You don't want to know what I'd do for Jimmy Clausen.

Cable said Gradkowski gives us the best chance to win right now and he's right. I don't think this is the perfect offense for him, but he should do a little more than get a first down. Lately our receivers have found ways to gain separation and get open, this time I expect us to actually complete passes to those open receivers (if they can catch - far from a certainty). Get ready to be surprised and there's a decent chance we keep this game close.

RaiderNation
11-21-2009, 05:24 PM
Seeing Notre Dame lose, Weis just might be out. If a coaching change happens, I expect Clausen to bolt

EvilNixon
11-21-2009, 05:27 PM
I've been meaning to ask this,but a lot of Raider fans from other forums disagree. Do you think DHB can be a number 1?

Donno
11-21-2009, 05:55 PM
I've been meaning to ask this,but a lot of Raider fans from other forums disagree. Do you think DHB can be a number 1?

I need to see him be able to catch or else he will not be in this league for too much longer.

RaiderNation
11-21-2009, 05:57 PM
DHB will never be a #1 IMO. If Schilens can keep healthy and improve he and Miller should be the #1 options for our QB. DHB hopefully can turn into a deep threat opposite of Chaz, and have Murphy also a slot

NIN1984
11-21-2009, 10:26 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Clausen pulled an Eli Manning on the Raiders. I would totally understand if he did but its not like we will draft a QB anyway.

and for the Bengal game, I hope we win.

RaiderNation
11-22-2009, 03:00 PM
Somebody gotta find the game online link to the game

bernbabybern820
11-22-2009, 03:12 PM
Somebody gotta find the game online link to the game

I'm watching it via streamtorrent. well about to. The pitt vs. kc game has to end first.

RaiderNation
11-22-2009, 03:13 PM
anybody else have something I dont have to download to watch it?

RaiderNation
11-22-2009, 03:27 PM
Somebody help a brother out!!!


Looks like 85 is doing work right now. On Nnamdi?

bernbabybern820
11-22-2009, 03:31 PM
Somebody help a brother out!!!


Looks like 85 is doing work right now. On Nnamdi?

Nope a lot of zone. Almost on every play.

locseti
11-22-2009, 03:51 PM
http://p2p4u.net/watch-live-sports.php?id=8769&link=1

have to open in internet explorer. very decent stream.

RaiderNation
11-22-2009, 03:55 PM
I love you

RaiderNation
11-22-2009, 03:57 PM
Running right up the gut everytime. We need Suh!!!!!!!

RaiderNation
11-22-2009, 04:04 PM
Heyward-Bey :(

RaiderNation
11-22-2009, 04:05 PM
I hope they stay with Gradkowski throughout this game. He seems alot more comfortable back there then Russell.

locseti
11-22-2009, 04:05 PM
dhb is so sorry.

RaiderNation
11-22-2009, 04:09 PM
On that 8 yard run by Johnson, both the DT's were just destroyed.

RaiderNation
11-22-2009, 04:12 PM
Great throw, great catch. Gradkowski>JaWalrus

RaiderNation
11-22-2009, 04:13 PM
Wow we are using DMC? Thank god

locseti
11-22-2009, 04:24 PM
gradkwoski looking like a garcia clone.

Paranoidmoonduck
11-22-2009, 04:28 PM
He always has. People forget that Gradkowski was a pretty decent game manager for Tampa a few seasons back. Not the ideal passer, obviously, but he wants to put in the work it takes to start, which makes him immediately superior to Russell.

RaiderNation
11-22-2009, 04:35 PM
D starting to play better now since the O got something going

locseti
11-22-2009, 04:40 PM
ya gruden saw a little something in him, its obvious he's much more effective than jamarcus. ive always kinda liked him, i also liked charlie whitehurst from that class more than all the other qbs drafted besides the big 3 of vy, leinart and cutler. gradkowski is a high percentage passer, which is virtually the only way to move the football with a team like this. hopefully al will realize moving the football is more important than taking wild chances down the field, that probably work 5 percent of the time.

RaiderNation
11-22-2009, 04:45 PM
Did the video freeze for every1?

RaiderNation
11-22-2009, 04:46 PM
Its back on!!!!

bernbabybern820
11-22-2009, 04:59 PM
Our line has been playing very well so far.

RaiderNation
11-22-2009, 05:01 PM
Still we dont know how to tackle

RaiderNation
11-22-2009, 05:04 PM
Stupid Routt

RaiderNation
11-22-2009, 05:12 PM
******* Bush

RaiderNation
11-22-2009, 05:21 PM
Video froze :(

RaiderNation
11-22-2009, 06:38 PM
This game showed:

Russell sucks. Gradkowski can come into this game hurt and still put up better #'s then Russell. Hopefully with this win, Russell will not see the field ever again for us

We have a running game. 92 yards total on the ground isnt great, but should increase more with Gradkowski at QB. The oline played great

Our DT's sucks. Warren and Kelly are bad. We need to use our 1st and/or 2nd on the DT position. Suh or McCoy sound great right now.

We have luck go our way? For once this year we have things go our way. Dumb turnovers by the Bengals really helped us, but we also had 3 turnovers

EvilNixon
11-22-2009, 06:40 PM
Pretty inspired effort,although we continue to get gashed by the run.

619
11-22-2009, 06:45 PM
Anyone who is a disciple/student of Gruden's offense I respect. All hail Bruce!

With Bruce at the helm I could actually see a scenario play out where we finish the rest of the season at .500 (3-3). There are some winnable games.

EvilNixon
11-22-2009, 06:47 PM
*bows to Bruce the God*

NIN1984
11-22-2009, 07:09 PM
Thank you Bruce Gradkowski

Raiderz4Life
11-22-2009, 07:11 PM
we won 8''')

bernbabybern820
11-22-2009, 07:18 PM
We might have been 5 and 5 if we started Bruce from the beginning.

EvilNixon
11-22-2009, 07:19 PM
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss283/godmode305/OaklandRaidersvNewYorkGiants0lUULvl.jpg

RaiderNation
11-22-2009, 10:29 PM
We have 3 very winnable games left IMO.

vs Redskins
@ Broncos
@ Browns

Maybe we beat Dallas this thursday too? They didnt play well today and maybe playing on thanksgiving can inspire us to win.

Paranoidmoonduck
11-22-2009, 10:35 PM
The short week to prepare for an away game in that Stadium isn't exactly the easiest test for the team. Dallas hasn't looked good lately, which I'll take as a positive for us, but this team still has its rough patches and has only taken down quality teams this year when those teams helped us along.

Not to say Dallas doesn't look like a team that could do that, but I'm not expecting a win.

RaiderNation
11-22-2009, 10:51 PM
http://www.nfl.com/videos/oakland-raiders/09000d5d81468cbc/Raiders-postgame-press-conference

Post game press conference.

I like what Gradkowski is saying in it. He doesnt talk him self up, or just about himself like Russell.

RaiderNation
11-24-2009, 04:03 AM
http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/getty/2009/09000d5d81467d7b_gallery_600.jpg

Paranoidmoonduck
11-24-2009, 10:08 AM
I've said it before. The best part of taking JaMarcus Russell over Calvin Johnson is that it led to taking Zach Miller.

Stash
11-25-2009, 01:34 AM
I've said it before. The best part of taking JaMarcus Russell over Calvin Johnson is that it led to taking Zach Miller.
Sure, that's a nice way to look at it, but to be honest CJ>>>>>>>>>>Miller. And I love me some Zach attack.

Paranoidmoonduck
11-25-2009, 01:41 AM
Sure, that's a nice way to look at it, but to be honest CJ>>>>>>>>>>Miller. And I love me some Zach attack.

Let me look on the bright side of things a little. Trust me, I wanted CJ as badly as anyone.