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Hines
11-25-2009, 03:12 PM
Thursday
Green Bay @ Detroit
Oakland @ Dallas
NY Giants @ Denver

Sunday
Tampa Bay @ Atlanta
Miami @ Buffalo
Cleveland @ Cincinnati
Seattle @ St Louis
Carolina @ NY Jets
Washington @ Philadelphia
Indianapolis @ Houston
Kansas City @ San Diego
Jacksonville @ San Francisco
Chicago @ Minnesota
Arizona @ Tennessee
Pittsburgh @ Baltimore

Monday
New England @ New Orleans


Some real good games this week in Indy-Houston, Pitt-Baltimore, and NE-NO. I originally had Baltimore in the Sunday night game and I might change my pick, but I find it hard to pick against my Steelers. I don't see anyway they could possibly lose 3 straight games.

vikes_28
11-25-2009, 03:13 PM
Can't wait to watch Cutler throw 5 int's vs. the Vikings.

Gay Ork Wang
11-25-2009, 03:15 PM
this will be another miserable sunday

gsorace
11-25-2009, 03:23 PM
Carolina @ NY Jets

Who throws more INTs Delhomme or Sanchez?

Gay Ork Wang
11-25-2009, 03:24 PM
Who throws more INTs Delhomme or Sanchez?
trick question, the answer is always cutler

Hines
11-25-2009, 03:26 PM
Who throws more INTs Delhomme or Sanchez?

Under/over: 6 combined INTs?

CC.SD
11-25-2009, 03:41 PM
Under/over: 6 combined INTs?

I would take the over on 5.5 in a second.

Splat
11-25-2009, 03:47 PM
Ryan Succop just wins games...

Flyboy
11-25-2009, 03:53 PM
Geaux Saints!

BleedBurgundy96
11-25-2009, 04:50 PM
Most of the country will be seeing Chicago at Minnesota in the FOX late game. Im kinda upset they arent showing the Cardinals at Titans matchup.

Kurt Warner (who led the Rams over the Titans in SB 34) is leading the Cardinals into Tennessee to face Vince Young, Chris Johnson, and the red-hot Titans.

Gay Ork Wang
11-25-2009, 04:51 PM
Most of the country will be seeing Chicago at Minnesota in the FOX late game. Im kinda upset they arent showing the Cardinals at Titans matchup.

Kurt Warner (who led the Rams over the Titans in SB 34) is leading the Cardinals into Tennessee to face Vince Young, Chris Johnson, and the red-hot Titans.
everybody wants to see Cutler fail

BleedBurgundy96
11-25-2009, 04:54 PM
everybody wants to see Cutler fail

LOL that and the Bears/Vikings matchup has Brett Favre. Dont get me wrong I think Brett Favre is great but I got a feeling this game could be a blowout.

Gay Ork Wang
11-25-2009, 04:59 PM
LOL that and the Bears/Vikings matchup has Brett Favre. Dont get me wrong I think Brett Favre is great but I got a feeling this game could be a blowout.
meh i actually think it will be rather close ended by a pick 6 from cutler

BleedBurgundy96
11-25-2009, 05:02 PM
meh i actually think it will be rather close ended by a pick 6 from cutler

It could be. It is a division game. I just think the Vikings are clicking on all cylinders while the Bears are still struggling to find themselves.

Todd Bertuzzi
11-25-2009, 05:04 PM
Let's go Broncos and Raiders!

SFbear
11-25-2009, 05:08 PM
everybody wants to see Cutler fail

Its become a national pastime.

CC.SD
11-25-2009, 05:16 PM
Let's go Broncos and Raiders!

Boo let's go Giants

prock
11-25-2009, 06:41 PM
trick question, the answer is always cutler

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

BleedBurgundy96
11-26-2009, 12:26 AM
Bump b/c its Turkey Day.

Hopefully all of the games arent blowouts.

yo123
11-26-2009, 12:38 AM
Can't wait to watch Cutler throw 5 int's vs. the Vikings.

We have to have one of the lowest INT totals in the league though. And Cutler is probably going to still be throwing balls 10 feet over receiver's heads and at their feet because he's scared of throwing picks now.

Hines
11-26-2009, 01:09 AM
I have a weird feeling that the Raiders are going to keep it close in their game.

tjsunstein
11-26-2009, 02:23 AM
I have a weird feeling that the Raiders are going to keep it close in their game.

I have a weird feeling that you aren't suppose to be posting. ;)

Let's go Pack. Start Thanksgiving off right.

CJSchneider
11-26-2009, 05:59 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Turducken_easter06.jpg

Turduckin and football, oh how they go together. Bring on the food and the games.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
11-26-2009, 11:13 AM
Boo let's go Giants

Shut up, you.

Also it's not like Cutler's going out and throwing 2 or 3 picks a game, guys. Literally half of his INTs have come from 2 games. I think he throws 1 against Minny, maybe 2.

Gay Ork Wang
11-26-2009, 11:14 AM
Shut up, you.

Also it's not like Cutler's going out and throwing 2 or 3 picks a game, guys. Literally half of his INTs have come from 2 games. I think he throws 1 against Minny, maybe 2.
psssst dont make people use logic.

stephenson86
11-26-2009, 11:20 AM
i think he should try using matt forte more...just a thought

vikes_28
11-26-2009, 11:27 AM
We have to have one of the lowest INT totals in the league though. And Cutler is probably going to still be throwing balls 10 feet over receiver's heads and at their feet because he's scared of throwing picks now.

True comment, but the reason for that is because the Vikings get such a good pass rush every single play. The quarterback either throws the ball away, or takes the sack. But keep in mind, this is Jay Cutler we are talking about. He will throw at least 2 ints on sunday.

BleedBurgundy96
11-26-2009, 11:39 AM
Also it's not like Cutler's going out and throwing 2 or 3 picks a game, guys. Literally half of his INTs have come from 2 games. I think he throws 1 against Minny, maybe 2.

You are right. At the sametime though Cutler has 7 TDs and 13 INTs over his last 6 games.

I dont think hes as bad as hes been playing. He has been struggling though.

Babylon
11-26-2009, 11:44 AM
I gotta give these young Lions name players a ton of credit for getting out there and playing hurt. Shows me something, not sure every team would let them play but hopefully they'll live to tell about it.

BleedBurgundy96
11-26-2009, 11:56 AM
I gotta give these young Lions name players a ton of credit for getting out there and playing hurt. Shows me something, not sure every team would let them play but hopefully they'll live to tell about it.

I wish my team had the type of heart that players like Stafford and Calvin Johnson have.

tjsunstein
11-26-2009, 12:16 PM
I can honestly say with all the poor quarterback on display this year that I am thankful for Aaron Rodgers.

Babylon
11-26-2009, 12:20 PM
I wish my team had the type of heart that players like Stafford and Calvin Johnson have.

You could do worse than have those two to start a franchise with.

Hines
11-26-2009, 12:28 PM
I know this is late, but Donald Driver is beyond underrated. He simply makes plays and noone talks about him.

Wootylicous
11-26-2009, 12:40 PM
Stop throwing INTs Matthew ! :(

Babylon
11-26-2009, 12:42 PM
Stop throwing INTs Matthew ! :(

A QB will say stop running bad routes.

tjsunstein
11-26-2009, 12:44 PM
I know this is late, but Donald Driver is beyond underrated. He simply makes plays and noone talks about him.

I agree. Donald Driver is very appreciated within the Packer community. Outside of it though, I do think he is a tad underrated. He doesn't get much publicity because of his style of play. He gets the tough yards without many flashy plays. The only publicity he's gotten this year was for his great catches downfield but he does so much more.

Paul
11-26-2009, 01:00 PM
Mathews has some kind of motor.

tjsunstein
11-26-2009, 01:00 PM
Clay Matthews is special. He never quit on that play.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
11-26-2009, 01:10 PM
Obamaception!!!

M.O.T.H.
11-26-2009, 01:11 PM
I love me some Mo Town.

Wootylicous
11-26-2009, 01:11 PM
Oh my what a ****** halftime show :|

Screw that MOTH!

Gay Ork Wang
11-26-2009, 01:13 PM
Oh my what a ****** halftime show :|

Screw that MOTH!
what happened to your name?

M.O.T.H.
11-26-2009, 01:13 PM
LoL

Strange song choices...you can put on a kick ass Mo Town half time show with the right songs.

Wootylicous
11-26-2009, 01:14 PM
andddddddd this song got me

Wootylicous
11-26-2009, 01:15 PM
what happened to your name?

Fantasy story.

M.O.T.H.
11-26-2009, 01:15 PM
Now this guy sucks.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
11-26-2009, 01:18 PM
You are right. At the sametime though Cutler has 7 TDs and 13 INTs over his last 6 games.

I dont think hes as bad as hes been playing. He has been struggling though.

Yeah he's been mad struggling. I've never seen him as inaccurate as he was against the Eagles. He made a career in Denver of making incredible throws right on the money. Even his rookie year, he got me so excited for the future. :(

rdjitpEOAfo

Man, the end of that season was exciting. Cutler looking great, Marshall looking great, Scheffler looking great. Specifically the plays at 1:08 and 2:00. Those were absolutely incredible throws. In the first one, Walker was wide open, yes, but that ball hit him perfectly in stride at like 60 yards. The second one, you'd have a hard time naming 5 QBs who could have turned that into something that wasn't a pick six. I remember watching it and being like "OH ****" until I heard the TV guys say "Touchdown" and I was like how the **** did he fit that through?

Paul
11-26-2009, 01:22 PM
Sick Pick.

M.O.T.H.
11-26-2009, 01:23 PM
Oh boy. Freaking rookies man.

Been a little spoiled by Flacco and Ryan. Things are back to normal with all these rookie turnover machines.

Babylon
11-26-2009, 01:24 PM
These receivers make very little effort on the ball, stop blaming the QB for everything.

Gay Ork Wang
11-26-2009, 01:26 PM
Fantasy story.
im so gonna lose to you this week

Babylon
11-26-2009, 01:30 PM
On 4th down that probably is one time where you would say pick the ball up and run. Not that the Lions d-line can keep the actual down straight.

BleedBurgundy96
11-26-2009, 01:39 PM
Oh boy. Freaking rookies man.

Been a little spoiled by Flacco and Ryan. Things are back to normal with all these rookie turnover machines.

I still think its funny the Lions drafted Stafford #1. I feel sorry for them.

BleedBurgundy96
11-26-2009, 01:41 PM
Driver is tearing it up. He is going to win the Galloping Gobbler LOL.

San Diego Chicken
11-26-2009, 01:44 PM
Rodgers is just one of those quarterbacks. Wherever the football needs to go, it's there. He threads the needle better than anyone I've seen going right now.

Babylon
11-26-2009, 01:48 PM
I still think its funny the Lions drafted Stafford #1. I feel sorry for them.

I feel sorry for him.

soybean
11-26-2009, 01:52 PM
I feel sorry for him.

seriously. that franchise is a career killer.

BleedBurgundy96
11-26-2009, 01:58 PM
I feel sorry for him.

I dont think Stafford is as good as alot of people think. So I feel sorry for the fans more than Stafford.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
11-26-2009, 02:00 PM
I like what I see in Stafford. He's a tough kid. He seems to have "it". He's not one of those guys who are gonna fall into a shell and be afraid to make throws. As he grows, he'll learn to distinguish when to make those throws.

San Diego Chicken
11-26-2009, 02:03 PM
I really love Stafford's attitude. He wanted to take on the challenge of turning the Lions around and I think he has done a fabulous job as a 3rd year junior, starting now for a team one year removed from 0-16.

I like the kid alot and I think he can get these Lions on the right track. The arm talent is undeniable and he has the intelligence and drive to match. Both he and Sanchez have had ugly moments, but what 21 year old rookie wouldn't. They'll both have very good seasons next year with another offseason to improve.

Babylon
11-26-2009, 02:05 PM
I like what I see in Stafford. He's a tough kid. He seems to have "it". He's not one of those guys who are gonna fall into a shell and be afraid to make throws. As he grows, he'll learn to distinguish when to make those throws.

I agree. As long as he doesnt get stupid and think he can force every throw in (Jay Cutler) he'll be fine. He really doesnt have much around him. The O-line isnt very good, they only have one real receiver and either dont trust the running game or they arent any good either.

On the other side of the field the Packers offensive line has played well today.

BleedBurgundy96
11-26-2009, 02:15 PM
Anyone just see that 3 in 1 tailgate condiment gun commercial?

I need to get me one of those LOL.

BleedBurgundy96
11-26-2009, 02:18 PM
Anyone just see that 3 in 1 tailgate condiment gun commercial?

I need to get me one of those LOL.

LOL its going for 227.50 on EBAY right now. Im LMFAO.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230403278544

M.O.T.H.
11-26-2009, 02:36 PM
Whoops. :(:/

BleedBurgundy96
11-26-2009, 02:55 PM
Rodgers, Driver, and Woodson all deserve the Galloping Gobbler.

I think Driver should win it though.

M.O.T.H.
11-26-2009, 02:58 PM
I <3 Donald Driver.

BleedBurgundy96
11-26-2009, 02:59 PM
Driver is stoked LOL.

Mr.Regular
11-26-2009, 03:23 PM
Charles Woodson is sooo good. I know we usually rate the top CB's 1-Aso 2-Revis.... but I think Woodson is every bit as good as those 2, if not better. I mean he does it all. You can't pass on him, he's an elite run stuffer at CB, he blitzes real well, and he makes a **** ton of plays.

M.O.T.H.
11-26-2009, 03:27 PM
Yeah that was an early hit.

TitanHope
11-26-2009, 03:34 PM
Love the Raiders throwbacks. I hope one of them has a black visor on. That'd look crazy cool.

Justin Fargas may be the Driver of RB's.

BleedBurgundy96
11-26-2009, 03:35 PM
Charles Woodson is sooo good. I know we usually rate the top CB's 1-Aso 2-Revis.... but I think Woodson is every bit as good as those 2, if not better. I mean he does it all. You can't pass on him, he's an elite run stuffer at CB, he blitzes real well, and he makes a **** ton of plays.

As of right now id say 1. Revis 2. NA 3. Woodson. Id say the difference between 2 and 3 isnt much.

Im a big fan of Charles Woodson. Hes a great football player.

yo123
11-26-2009, 03:38 PM
Charles Woodson is sooo good. I know we usually rate the top CB's 1-Aso 2-Revis.... but I think Woodson is every bit as good as those 2, if not better. I mean he does it all. You can't pass on him, he's an elite run stuffer at CB, he blitzes real well, and he makes a **** ton of plays.


Aso is the best without a doubt, but Woodson and Revis are neck and neck imo.

Young Legend
11-26-2009, 04:08 PM
Woodson >ASO

ASO will never make the plays Woodson does.

Gay Ork Wang
11-26-2009, 04:16 PM
Woodson >ASO

ASO will never make the plays Woodson does.
cause he never gets thrown at

Young Legend
11-26-2009, 04:26 PM
cause he never gets thrown at

No,Because Aso is not that play making CB like Woodson.Raider fan here watch Aso every Sunday and Woodson is better.and its easy to know where Aso is gonna be cause he is only gonna stay on one side of the field.Teams will just put there number 1 on the opposite side of the field and have there number 1 pick on CJ.

HE should be all over Austin but he is not.

critesy
11-26-2009, 04:26 PM
lmao at folk..!

umphrey
11-26-2009, 04:30 PM
IMO Aso is overrated, put him at 3 I guess, and tie Woodson and Revis for number 1. They do different things on the field. Revis probably shuts down a receiver in coverage a bit better than Woodson but CW does a lot of things Revis doesn't like blitzing and forcing fumbles or clutch interceptions.

Nalej
11-26-2009, 04:33 PM
I gotta agree with one thing... I don't like when CBs stay on one side of the field. To truly be great- you should be able to lineup against the opponents No. 1 WR no matter where he lines up

Gay Ork Wang
11-26-2009, 04:34 PM
No,Because Aso is not that play making CB like Woodson.Raider fan here watch Aso every Sunday and Woodson is better.and its easy to know where Aso is gonna be cause he is only gonna stay on one side of the field.Teams will just put there number 1 on the opposite side of the field and have there number 1 pick on CJ.

HE should be all over Austin but he is not.
and that is Aso's fault how?

umphrey
11-26-2009, 04:37 PM
http://media.jsonline.com/images/440*316/donald112609.jpg

edit: sorry, no idea why that img isn't working

Young Legend
11-26-2009, 04:37 PM
and that is Aso's fault how?

Because he is not comfortable on the other side,and please don't say the scheme because Woodson played all over the field Covered the number 1,and when we played KC he would be covering Gonzo and the scheme hasn't changed.

And um just as I type this,there goes Austin picking on CJ.If Aso was a real number 1 CB the best in the league he will be covering Austin the Cowboys number 1 WR.

I cannot say he is the best when he just doesn't cover the best.

Todd Bertuzzi
11-26-2009, 04:37 PM
As a Miles Austin fantasy owner I approve.

terribletowel39
11-26-2009, 04:38 PM
That was not a TD. I'm confused.

Okay, I thought they reviewed it and still called it a TD.

tjsunstein
11-26-2009, 04:38 PM
Woodson is by far my favorite so I'm partial to him. I watch him every Sunday and can say that he does do everything. Cornerback is one of the hardest positions to rate because of systems and schemes.

M.O.T.H.
11-26-2009, 04:39 PM
That was not a TD. I'm confused.

They had to rule it a TD just in case. It will probably get over turned.

M.O.T.H.
11-26-2009, 04:42 PM
Great TD by Miles.

You still have to wonder why Garrett never goes with double TEs in deep red zone and goal line situations. God, I hate him.

Wooooo Miles!

terribletowel39
11-26-2009, 04:42 PM
They had to rule it a TD just in case. It will probably get over turned.

He still get one. haha

Gay Ork Wang
11-26-2009, 04:42 PM
Because he is not comfortable on the other side,and please don't say the scheme because Woodson played all over the field Covered the number 1,and when we played KC he would be covering Gonzo and the scheme hasn't changed.

And um just as I type this,there goes Austin picking on CJ.If Aso was a real number 1 CB the best in the league he will be covering Austin the Cowboys number 1 WR.

I cannot say he is the best when he just doesn't cover the best.
is it really up to him where he wants to cover? or is the DC calling the shots?

tjsunstein
11-26-2009, 04:42 PM
Doesn't really matter. Miles gets his plus another reception for PPR owners.

bernbabybern820
11-26-2009, 04:43 PM
IMO Aso is overrated, put him at 3 I guess, and tie Woodson and Revis for number 1. They do different things on the field. Revis probably shuts down a receiver in coverage a bit better than Woodson but CW does a lot of things Revis doesn't like blitzing and forcing fumbles or clutch interceptions.

I don't think Aso would ever allow 5+ receptions to Titan receivers in a game.

Nalej
11-26-2009, 04:43 PM
Damn, Gary Russell is ******* fat

bernbabybern820
11-26-2009, 04:44 PM
Doesn't really matter. Miles gets his plus another reception for PPR owners.

He's actually on my bench because i have Vincent Jackson, Moss, and Driver.

M.O.T.H.
11-26-2009, 04:44 PM
He really is. Guy is a freaking piggy. He really let himself go after Minnesota.

tjsunstein
11-26-2009, 04:47 PM
He's actually on my bench because i have Vincent Jackson, Moss, and Driver.

Poor you.

He really is. Guy is a freaking piggy. He really let himself go after Minnesota.

He had to put on weight if he wanted a roster spot. He's done a good job at FB, IMO.

BleedBurgundy96
11-26-2009, 04:50 PM
He's actually on my bench because i have Vincent Jackson, Moss, and Driver.

You started the right guys. I wouldnt of started Austin over any of those 3.

Wootylicous
11-26-2009, 04:54 PM
THE WHO!

niceeeeeeee I like.

M.O.T.H.
11-26-2009, 04:55 PM
Well, I mean he never looked anything like this at Minnesota. He started getting fat and out of shape after he left there. Got fat and slow...ruined what could have been.

BandwagonPunditry
11-26-2009, 05:07 PM
Screw Aso, Obama just picked off Brees in an ad. Where can I draft me some president?

BleedBurgundy96
11-26-2009, 05:10 PM
Screw Aso, Obama just picked off Brees in an ad. Where can I draft me some president?

Well thats karma. A Bears fan intercepting a pass. cough CUTLER cough. :D

Young Legend
11-26-2009, 05:21 PM
Just imagine if Miller had a real QB like Manning throwing him the ball

Young Legend
11-26-2009, 05:22 PM
Kind of sad that the little girl in the commercial has better hands then DHB(drop Hella Balls)

Young Legend
11-26-2009, 05:24 PM
Holy crap he actually scored a TD

M.O.T.H.
11-26-2009, 05:24 PM
Alan Ball is such a bum.

Gay Ork Wang
11-26-2009, 05:26 PM
Holy crap he actually scored a TD
totally worth the #7 pick

BleedBurgundy96
11-26-2009, 05:26 PM
Holy crap he actually scored a TD

I liked DHB alot coming out of Maryland. If he can get some better hands he can develop into a good WR.

Young Legend
11-26-2009, 05:28 PM
totally worth the #7 pick

Oh Yeah totally,and no surprise he caught it with his body.I wonder if he knows it ok to catch with his hands.

Ill give DHB one thing,he does a nice job run blocking.

Gay Ork Wang
11-26-2009, 05:29 PM
Oh Yeah totally,and no surprise he caught it with his body.I wonder if he knows it ok to catch with his hands.
Hands are overrated

yo123
11-26-2009, 05:30 PM
I hate to hate on DHB even when he does something well, but I knew it was him before I even saw his number only because he looked so awkward catching it.

Young Legend
11-26-2009, 05:31 PM
LOL not even gonna say anything about CJ on Austin

Young Legend
11-26-2009, 05:32 PM
Hands are overrated

Totally,Especially if your a WR.

Gay Ork Wang
11-26-2009, 05:41 PM
troy williamson had a nice career

Young Legend
11-26-2009, 05:45 PM
I just hope DHB could have half the career T.Williamson has.

Nice wanna be tackle Aso

Brodeur
11-26-2009, 05:52 PM
McFadden with the excellent hands.

Gay Ork Wang
11-26-2009, 06:04 PM
i need more Marion Barber catches/TDs

Wootylicous
11-26-2009, 06:05 PM
No don't listen to Renji! Tony Romo needs more TDs !

M.O.T.H.
11-26-2009, 06:06 PM
Of course they bring Hurd into block again....just throw him the damn ball.

Young Legend
11-26-2009, 06:13 PM
Why Oakland doesn't build there offense around Miller is beyond me.

D-Unit
11-26-2009, 06:27 PM
Cowboys = Greatest team on earth.

M.O.T.H.
11-26-2009, 06:30 PM
What are you drunk? :D

I honestly dont expect to win next week. I'm hopeful but, I dont think our offense is straightened out just yet. We'll see.

Matthew Jones
11-26-2009, 06:31 PM
As expected, these games were terrible. Well, I can't actually vouch for all of either game considering I stopped watching the Lions game early and the Cowboys/Raiders put me to sleep at halftime. But those aren't encouraging signs.

umphrey
11-26-2009, 06:34 PM
I'm probably in the minority here but I think DHB will be a good receiver in his 3rd year. Though he'll suck until then and he might still suck then if Oakland drags him down.

Im_a_Romosexual
11-26-2009, 06:41 PM
What is it with the last name Russell and being fat on the Raiders?

Crickett
11-26-2009, 06:56 PM
WPIX pregame show is epically bad. Please switch over to the NFL Network feed please.

Brodeur
11-26-2009, 07:15 PM
Why must Matt Millen be EVERYWHERE?

The Unseen
11-26-2009, 07:26 PM
Why must Matt Millen be EVERYWHERE?

One can only conclude that Matt Millen is God.

omg, proof that God is evil!

BleedBurgundy96
11-26-2009, 07:27 PM
Cowboys = Greatest team on earth.

Will they still be the greatest team on earth if they lose their last 5 and finish 8-8? :D

The Unseen
11-26-2009, 07:49 PM
I'm gonna start calling Orton The Artist Formerly Known as The Neckbeard until he grows It back.

terribletowel39
11-26-2009, 08:09 PM
Why are the Giants constantly bringing just 4 even though they aren't getting close to Orton??

Brodeur
11-26-2009, 08:10 PM
How do you commit 3 false starts in a series of downs at home?

The Unseen
11-26-2009, 08:13 PM
Sex me McDaniels.

crossroads
11-26-2009, 08:14 PM
Did the NFL Network really just air a clip on McDaniels on the sideline yelling "all we're trying to do is win a mother f***ing game?

Wootylicous
11-26-2009, 08:14 PM
Amazing lol

CashmoneyDrew
11-26-2009, 08:14 PM
Did the NFL Network really just air a clip on McDaniels on the sideline yelling "all we're trying to do is win a mother f***ing game?

It was probably live. It's not like they're gonna get in trouble for it anyways.

TitleTown088
11-26-2009, 08:17 PM
cause he never gets thrown at

" he never gets thrown at". Does Woodson only make plays when he's throw at? Just today he had a sack, FF, and FR when he wasn't " being thrown at". He stipped Roy Williams without being thrown at, he sacked romo and forced a fumble without being thrown at.. Aso may be the better cover corner ( not by much), but Woodson is the better overall football player.

wogitalia
11-26-2009, 08:26 PM
Woodson is straight beasting this year, he might not be the best corner in the league, but he sure as hell is playing like it. Has to be making himself a DPoY candidate with his recent performances and really, by recent I mean his whole season.

BleedBurgundy96
11-26-2009, 08:30 PM
Did the NFL Network really just air a clip on McDaniels on the sideline yelling "all we're trying to do is win a mother f***ing game?

That was great. :D

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
11-26-2009, 09:11 PM
The lady on Sportsnet in Canada just called Miles Austin "Austin Miles"

CC.SD
11-26-2009, 09:16 PM
feel inclined to stop in and say that even though the broncos will get a win, I still do get the slightest tingle in my head when Eli embarrasses himself in front of the nation. It might be the champagne though.

Brodeur
11-26-2009, 09:20 PM
feel inclined to stop in and say that even though the broncos will get a win, I still do get the slightest tingle in my head when Eli embarrasses himself in front of the nation. It might be the champagne though.

Rivers would embarrass himself more because he can't handle the New York media.

diabsoule
11-26-2009, 09:22 PM
Did New York forget they had a game today or are they are still full on tryptophan?

The Unseen
11-26-2009, 09:24 PM
Did New York forget they had a game today or are they are still full on tryptophan?

OMG JOKE FAIL TRYPTOPHAN IS *PROVEN* TO NOT BE THE CAUSE OF SLEEPINESS IT IS EATING ALOT LOL

but yeah. lay off the turkey Eli.

Brodeur
11-26-2009, 09:31 PM
Is it so wrong to want an exciting Thanksgiving Day game? (Not that I was here for the first two games since I had to work but still).

CC.SD
11-26-2009, 09:31 PM
Rivers would embarrass himself more because he can't handle the New York media.

It's true, it cannot be denied

Brodeur
11-26-2009, 09:49 PM
That was just some terrible coverage.

Xenos
11-26-2009, 10:07 PM
Rivers would embarrass himself more because he can't handle the New York media.
Actually he would do fine. He's probably one of the most composed players off the field and when doing interviews.

Plus if anything, all the media scrutiny would just make him want to be better. He seems to thrive and live on that type of adversity.

BleedBurgundy96
11-26-2009, 10:34 PM
Is it so wrong to want an exciting Thanksgiving Day game? (Not that I was here for the first two games since I had to work but still).

Amen brother.

Brodeur
11-26-2009, 10:40 PM
Actually he would do fine. He's probably one of the most composed players off the field and when doing interviews.

Plus if anything, all the media scrutiny would just make him want to be better. He seems to thrive and live on that type of adversity.

I'm just making fun of Number 10.

M.O.T.H.
11-26-2009, 10:41 PM
All the games sucked but, I have no complaints with the Cowboys and Giants outcomes. :)

Sniper
11-27-2009, 05:20 AM
Charles Woodson is the greatest football player ever. Period.

:D

Gay Ork Wang
11-27-2009, 05:23 AM
" he never gets thrown at". Does Woodson only make plays when he's throw at? Just today he had a sack, FF, and FR when he wasn't " being thrown at". He stipped Roy Williams without being thrown at, he sacked romo and forced a fumble without being thrown at.. Aso may be the better cover corner ( not by much), but Woodson is the better overall football player.
how much do you see Asomugha blitz?

JAMON TAYLOR
11-27-2009, 08:37 AM
Charles Woodson outperformed Asomugha in 2008 and is doing the same again this season. He is clearly the best CB in the league and I think the front-runner for DPOY at this point.

Here's an interesting article from 2008 about Asomugha that also mentions Woodson: http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/15/no-hype-review-nnamdi-asomugha-and-debunking-the-single-issue-theory/

Gay Ork Wang
11-27-2009, 09:08 AM
he is basing his argument on YPA. thats a horrible argument

JAMON TAYLOR
11-27-2009, 09:31 AM
he is basing his argument on YPA. thats a horrible argument

Whereas your argument is based on what?

The point of the article is that the fact that Asomugha was only targeted 35 times in 2007 cannot be used as the sole measuring stick of his ability. He also points out that Sheldon Brown, Al Harris, Charles Woodson, and Darrelle Revis all have equal/better metrics on more attempts.

Gay Ork Wang
11-27-2009, 10:55 AM
Whereas your argument is based on what?

The point of the article is that the fact that Asomugha was only targeted 35 times in 2007 cannot be used as the sole measuring stick of his ability. He also points out that Sheldon Brown, Al Harris, Charles Woodson, and Darrelle Revis all have equal/better metrics on more attempts.
YPA is a horrible argument.
thing is that the safeties will usually be shaded away from his side.
He is on an island literally every play. So usually, if he gives up a pass usually there is no one backing him up which could let to a proportional longer pass given up.
The other thing on an island is that you cant go for the big plays as much being on an island.

Im basing my argument on what ive seen and what ive heard from others.
Basing an argument solely on stats is not a smart thing in Football.

JAMON TAYLOR
11-27-2009, 11:07 AM
YPA is a horrible argument.
thing is that the safeties will usually be shaded away from his side.
He is on an island literally every play. So usually, if he gives up a pass usually there is no one backing him up which could let to a proportional longer pass given up.
The other thing on an island is that you cant go for the big plays as much being on an island.

Im basing my argument on what ive seen and what ive heard from others.
Basing an argument solely on stats is not a smart thing in Football.

Read the article!

YPA is not the only argument. In fact, Asomugha had a lower YPA than Woodson in 2008! You're arguing against yourself.

Woodson is also on an island on a regular basis. I haven't seen as much Revis, but I'm sure he's also consistently on an island. That is just the nature of being an elite cornerback in the NFL.

Asomugha
YPA: 2.7
Success Rate: 46.7%

Brown
YPA: 2.9
Success Rate: 72.0%

Harris
YPA: 3.1
Success Rate: 78.9

Woodson
YPA: 4.3
Success Rate: 70.2%

Revis
YPA: 4.9
Success Rate: 55.6%

What exactly have you seen/heard that makes you think Asomugha has been a better corner than Woodson either this season or last?

Gay Ork Wang
11-27-2009, 11:24 AM
Read the article!

YPA is not the only argument. In fact, Asomugha had a lower YPA than Woodson in 2008! You're arguing against yourself.

Woodson is also on an island on a regular basis. I haven't seen as much Revis, but I'm sure he's also consistently on an island. That is just the nature of being an elite cornerback in the NFL.

Asomugha
YPA: 2.7
Success Rate: 46.7%

Brown
YPA: 2.9
Success Rate: 72.0%

Harris
YPA: 3.1
Success Rate: 78.9

Woodson
YPA: 4.3
Success Rate: 70.2%

Revis
YPA: 4.9
Success Rate: 55.6%

What exactly have you seen/heard that makes you think Asomugha has been a better corner than Woodson either this season or last?
i havent seen enough this season to pass judgement

but last season Nnamdi absolutley shut down, you have hardly seen a ball thrown his way at all, he locked down guys like Andre Johnson and Reggie Wayne almost completely.

Other sides of his argument were bad cornerbacks on the otherside, kinda like a good LB gets a lot of tackles because of a bad surrounding.
But how great was his pass rush really?
I think just seeing him play with sick coverage was amazing. I remember the game vs the Panthers last year when Steve Smith was held to 9 yards on 1 catch and Nnamdi had an Int on like 2 throws his way

Matthew Jones
11-27-2009, 12:17 PM
I've seen Asomugha a few times this year and haven't come away very impressed. It just seems like teams choose to rather attack the other side of the field, but he got picked on a little this last game and against the Chargers in the first week gave up a pretty bad touchdown to Vincent Jackson. Last year, Randy Moss didn't have much trouble against him either, although he didn't have a fantastic game. I think Revis is better than Asomugha.

Gay Ork Wang
11-27-2009, 12:46 PM
I've seen Asomugha a few times this year and haven't come away very impressed. It just seems like teams choose to rather attack the other side of the field, but he got picked on a little this last game and against the Chargers in the first week gave up a pretty bad touchdown to Vincent Jackson. Last year, Randy Moss didn't have much trouble against him either, although he didn't have a fantastic game. I think Revis is better than Asomugha.
i havent seen him this year, but i believe last year, those TDs by Moss were Routts or huffs fault.

Paranoidmoonduck
11-27-2009, 01:47 PM
I have no real problem saying that Woodson is playing like the best corner in the league right now. He's been beaten more than Asomugha has this season, but he's been hugely disruptive and I expect that with Al Harris now out for the year, teams will be avoiding Woodson as much as they can.

I can't buy Revis as being better though. From what I've both seen and heard, Revis has had a bit of a rough year and has gotten torched several times. While Nnamdi has had a few injuries and has been attacked several times with success, he still hasn't given up that many big plays. That said, the number of throws finding their way towards him are lessening as Chris Johnson has begun to struggle. Teams are still rotating their wide receivers away from lining up on the left side of the field (which is Nnamdi's permanent cover spot) when they need to get the ball to them (RoP mentioned the Pats game last year; both Moss TD's were out of the slot).

edit - Hey, post #7000

P-L
11-27-2009, 02:38 PM
From what I've both seen and heard, Revis has had a bit of a rough year and has gotten torched several times.
I think Revis is still having nightmares about Ted Ginn.

gsorace
11-27-2009, 02:50 PM
The Ted Ginn TD was the only big play Revis has given up this season.

Zaytoven
11-27-2009, 02:51 PM
i havent seen enough this season to pass judgement

but last season Nnamdi absolutley shut down, you have hardly seen a ball thrown his way at all, he locked down guys like Andre Johnson and Reggie Wayne almost completely.

Other sides of his argument were bad cornerbacks on the otherside, kinda like a good LB gets a lot of tackles because of a bad surrounding.
But how great was his pass rush really?
I think just seeing him play with sick coverage was amazing. I remember the game vs the Panthers last year when Steve Smith was held to 9 yards on 1 catch and Nnamdi had an Int on like 2 throws his way

You realize Oakland didn't even play Indianapolis last season, right?

EvilNixon
11-27-2009, 02:56 PM
DHB was blowing by Revis in the Jets game,his hands and JaWalrus' accuracy cost em big.

Gay Ork Wang
11-27-2009, 03:05 PM
You realize Oakland didn't even play Indianapolis last season, right?
yes im talking about last season and the season before when Reggie had that one handed catch on Aso

TitleTown088
11-27-2009, 03:22 PM
how much do you see Asomugha blitz?

Did Wood blitz on his FF on Roy Williams? How about his FF vs Detroit yesterday?


Nope.

Zaytoven
11-27-2009, 03:52 PM
yes im talking about last season and the season before when Reggie had that one handed catch on Aso

No, Oakland and Indianapolis did not play last season...

How could Asomugha shut down Wayne if he didn't play him? Last time they met was in 2007 (which isn't what this discussion is about) and Wayne had 4 catches for 69 yards. That's hardly shutting him down.

Shiver
11-27-2009, 04:18 PM
I'm amazed that Charles Woodson turned his career around, he really was not good his last few years in Oakland. He has been a very good corner for the Packers, he does get targeted twice as much as Asomugha does though.

LonghornsLegend
11-27-2009, 05:11 PM
DHB was blowing by Revis in the Jets game,his hands and JaWalrus' accuracy cost em big.

DHB blows by alot of DB's, he's a track star. Too bad there is alot more to being a WR then running fly routes as fast as you can. He can't catch, and he has to learn how to run more then one route, all Oakland does is tell him to run fly routes and with his speed he'll run past alot of DB's pretty easily.

tjsunstein
11-27-2009, 05:41 PM
So how exactly does one determine the best cornerback in the game if it's not stats, and what you read and hear comes biased? People say Aso is the best in the game because he was the sexy pick last year but they haven't seen him play this year.

Splat
11-27-2009, 05:54 PM
Roethlisberger may sit out Sunday (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/11/27/roethlisberger-may-sit-out-sunday/)

Hines
11-27-2009, 05:58 PM
I think he plays.

Gay Ork Wang
11-27-2009, 08:53 PM
No, Oakland and Indianapolis did not play last season...

How could Asomugha shut down Wayne if he didn't play him? Last time they met was in 2007 (which isn't what this discussion is about) and Wayne had 4 catches for 69 yards. That's hardly shutting him down.
read that **** again. Im talking about last season AND THE SEASON BEFORE. And Wayne got that one catch on him and as i recall there were like 2 or even 3 of the other catches were given up when he was moving around

Zaytoven
11-28-2009, 02:01 AM
read that **** again. Im talking about last season AND THE SEASON BEFORE. And Wayne got that one catch on him and as i recall there were like 2 or even 3 of the other catches were given up when he was moving around

You recall a game two years ago that Reggie Wayne caught 3 of his 4 passes when Asomugha was not covering him? :roll:

Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like you're just a Bears fan that can't stand the fact that the Packers have the best CB in the league.

CC.SD
11-28-2009, 02:34 AM
You recall a game two years ago that Reggie Wayne caught 3 of his 4 passes when Asomugha was not covering him? :roll:

Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like you're just a Bears fan that can't stand the fact that the Packers have the best CB in the league.

Conspiracy theories aside, Aso's inability to play the other side of the field is a pretty big knock when you talk about unquestioned 'best in the game' status.

Gay Ork Wang
11-28-2009, 04:18 AM
You recall a game two years ago that Reggie Wayne caught 3 of his 4 passes when Asomugha was not covering him? :roll:

Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like you're just a Bears fan that can't stand the fact that the Packers have the best CB in the league.
i do actually. I have no problem saying he is the best this year. but to knock on him the last two years when he has been lights out is wrong

EDIT: i just checked online, Reggie Wayne had 1 catch on Fabian Washington with 12 yards, another catch short right, which isnt his area, for 7 yards, the one catch on Aso with 19 yards and 1 catch deep middle which was tackled by C.carr for 31 yards

Paranoidmoonduck
11-28-2009, 04:26 AM
Conspiracy theories aside, Aso's inability to play the other side of the field is a pretty big knock when you talk about unquestioned 'best in the game' status.

Erm, inability? Aso played on the other side of the field when Woodson was still on the team, but Oakland's #1 corner has played the left side of the field for as long as I can remember. It's not an inability, that's just the scheme.

Gay Ork Wang
11-28-2009, 04:29 AM
Erm, inability? Aso played on the other side of the field when Woodson was still on the team, but Oakland's #1 corner has played the left side of the field for as long as I can remember. It's not an inability, that's just the scheme.
which is why you really cant blame Aso for not following the #1 WR. blame the scheme

Zaytoven
11-28-2009, 09:35 AM
i do actually. I have no problem saying he is the best this year. but to knock on him the last two years when he has been lights out is wrong

EDIT: i just checked online, Reggie Wayne had 1 catch on Fabian Washington with 12 yards, another catch short right, which isnt his area, for 7 yards, the one catch on Aso with 19 yards and 1 catch deep middle which was tackled by C.carr for 31 yards

Where have I knocked Asomugha at all in this thread? He's easily one of the best cornerbacks in the game and has been for a few years now. That said, I think it's abundantly clear that Woodson has been better this year and I would have a hard time buying an argument that said Asomugha was better last year based on the metrics and film I've seen.

Gay Ork Wang
11-28-2009, 09:40 AM
Where have I knocked Asomugha at all in this thread? He's easily one of the best cornerbacks in the game and has been for a few years now. That said, I think it's abundantly clear that Woodson has been better this year and I would have a hard time buying an argument that said Asomugha was better last year based on the metrics and film I've seen.
you havent, thats why i really havent argued with you, i was talking about that weird article on the last page

diabsoule
11-28-2009, 09:51 AM
What the hell is going on with the Giants?

LizardState
11-28-2009, 09:59 AM
What the hell is going on with the Giants?

Just a guess, but the answer to What's wrong & Giants is always going to be Coughlin. Or Coughlin-related, he thinks he's still coaching college ball, the real Giants coaches are their defensive veterans. In Sept. I thought they were going to steamroll the NFL with that d-line, shows you what I know.....

Smooth Criminal
11-28-2009, 10:41 AM
Ben is out. Dennis Dixon will start. I'm sure NBC is excited about that one.

This matchup looked great at the begining of the year. Now its nothing more than two injury ravished teams trying to get a wildcard spot.

M.O.T.H.
11-28-2009, 11:01 AM
I'm happy he's getting his first start but, why did it have to be against the Ravens? :( Poor Dennis.

The Unseen
11-28-2009, 11:14 AM
Ben is out. Dennis Dixon will start. I'm sure NBC is excited about that one.

I am. Dennis Dixon :O

P-L
11-28-2009, 11:52 AM
I'm glad the Steelers are sitting Ben. I hate how NFL teams try and rush players back from concussions. I think all quarterbacks and running backs need at least two weeks to come back from them.

terribletowel39
11-28-2009, 11:59 AM
I have faith in Dixon. He will make plays. The team must have some confidence in him. They had plenty of time to sign Garcia or some other veteran.

Watch for his feet. He is deceptively fast with his long stride. I'm probably just trying to look at the bright side of this. But oh well.

mikehop05
11-28-2009, 12:04 PM
I have faith in Dixon. He will make plays. The team must have some confidence in him. They had plenty of time to sign Garcia or some other veteran.

Watch for his feet. He is deceptively fast with his long stride. I'm probably just trying to look at the bright side of this. But oh well.

def lookin on the bright side lol

terribletowel39
11-28-2009, 12:10 PM
def lookin on the bright side lol

I can't help it. Always have faith in your team. Plus, he has been sitting for the last 2 years, I have to think he has learned something from Ben and Batch. (I know I just posted the same thing in our thread)

Xenos
11-28-2009, 12:13 PM
Conspiracy theories aside, Aso's inability to play the other side of the field is a pretty big knock when you talk about unquestioned 'best in the game' status.
Dude, we do the same thing with our DBs. Jammer always cover the left side of the field because most QBs are right handed. I don't think there is any team in the league that has one corner shadow one receiver anymore.

Zaytoven
11-28-2009, 12:15 PM
Dude, we do the same thing with our DBs. Jammer always cover the left side of the field because most QBs are right handed. I don't think there is any team in the league that has one corner shadow one receiver anymore.

???

There are few teams that lock their CBs onto one side of the field, at least from what I've noticed. Why allow the offense to dictate the matchups?

21ST
11-28-2009, 01:11 PM
???

There are few teams that lock their CBs onto one side of the field, at least from what I've noticed. Why allow the offense to dictate the matchups?

To make them throw the ball to one side of the field, where you can roll coverage over to and provide help. It actually makes some sense if you have a really good corner

Zaytoven
11-28-2009, 01:16 PM
To make them throw the ball to one side of the field, where you can roll coverage over to and provide help. It actually makes some sense if you have a really good corner

You can do that anyway. Put your best CB on an island and roll coverage to other parts of the field.

No cornerback can shut down a side of the field anyway. They can shut down one player...maybe.

Sniper
11-28-2009, 01:27 PM
Just have someone from Michigan's defense on the other team and Dennis Dixon will light that defense up.

CC.SD
11-28-2009, 01:28 PM
Dude, we do the same thing with our DBs. Jammer always cover the left side of the field because most QBs are right handed. I don't think there is any team in the league that has one corner shadow one receiver anymore.

Yeah...but no one is saying Jammer or Cro are the best in the league.

Someone out there is a quote directly from Aso about how he's not comfortable playing the other side of the field. I'll dig it up if I have time, I think it was from the Oakland tribune?

coordinator0
11-28-2009, 02:05 PM
Just have someone from Michigan's defense on the other team and Dennis Dixon will light that defense up.

Our only UM player happens to be on defense, but he doesn't play (Prescott Burgess). Pretty good special teams guy though.

Sniper
11-28-2009, 02:08 PM
Our only UM player happens to be on defense, but he doesn't play (Prescott Burgess). Pretty good special teams guy though.

I thought he was back with the Patriots.

coordinator0
11-28-2009, 02:10 PM
I thought he was back with the Patriots.

Nope, after we traded him to NE they cut him and signed him to their PS. Then we signed him off of their PS when one of our guys went down.

LonghornsLegend
11-28-2009, 03:12 PM
Dude, we do the same thing with our DBs. Jammer always cover the left side of the field because most QBs are right handed. I don't think there is any team in the league that has one corner shadow one receiver anymore.

Newman did for a large portion of last year and still this year. I think it depends on the DC and the scheme he likes to play. Wade loves to play alot of man to man which is what Newman primarily used to excel at. He was hurt alot last year but whenever he was healthy he shadowed the teams #1 WR all over the field, and he still does a bit of it this year. I think it's more on the DC then the type of Corner you have.

Splat
11-28-2009, 06:04 PM
Freeney out for Colts (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/11/28/freeney-out-for-colts/)

Bates not traveling with Bucs (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/11/28/bates-not-traveling-with-bucs/)

Panthers' Steve Smith questionable with rib injury (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/11/28/panthers-steve-smith-questionable-with-rib-injury/)

ATLDirtyBirds
11-29-2009, 11:02 AM
Dennis Dixon is the ****. I've always been a big fan. Ben is done. The Dixon era begins now.

critesy
11-29-2009, 11:12 AM
lol just saw jim sorgi on the injury list on the bottom ticker

Chucky
11-29-2009, 11:17 AM
Is Kurt Warner goign to be playing?

CC.SD
11-29-2009, 11:21 AM
lol just saw jim sorgi on the injury list on the bottom ticker

Surely a trick.

Gay Ork Wang
11-29-2009, 11:32 AM
Is Kurt Warner goign to be playing?
according to Schefter:

Unless there's a pregame warmup setback, he's expected to play.

Hurricanes25
11-29-2009, 11:45 AM
Is Kurt Warner goign to be playing?

I just heard that he was not feeling well this morning. He may not play today.

Gay Ork Wang
11-29-2009, 11:51 AM
Kurt is out, he woke up with a sore neck

TitanHope
11-29-2009, 11:51 AM
It's Young vs Leinart: The Rematch!!!

Whoo!

Gay Ork Wang
11-29-2009, 11:52 AM
It is the rose bowl all over again

TitanHope
11-29-2009, 11:54 AM
It is the rose bowl all over again

Titans will have Michael Griffin in the secondary to pick him off in this game too! ;)

Gay Ork Wang
11-29-2009, 11:54 AM
Titans will have Michael Griffin in the secondary to pick him off in this game too! ;)
via Fenikz:

|18:52:51| <+fen1kz> cept now young has "reggie bush"

CC.SD
11-29-2009, 11:54 AM
holy **** Rose Bowl Rumble! srs bizness!!!

JRTPlaya21
11-29-2009, 11:58 AM
Falcons stream anybody.

cvv84
11-29-2009, 12:04 PM
LMAO @ Andy Reid

Todd Bertuzzi
11-29-2009, 12:04 PM
What the ****

Go_Eagles77
11-29-2009, 12:04 PM
WTF eagles try onside kick and redskins have it deep in eagles territory.

T-RICH49
11-29-2009, 12:04 PM
WOW...an onside kick on the opening kick?ROFL

Scotty D
11-29-2009, 12:05 PM
Oh Andy Reid you are silly

TitleTown088
11-29-2009, 12:06 PM
Sorry Philly, I am forced to root agianst you.

UKfan
11-29-2009, 12:07 PM
Josh Thomas was in the game for the Colts... ugh, this could be a long game, get healthy Freeney!

T-RICH49
11-29-2009, 12:07 PM
TD Washington.how do ya like that call now Andy

Go_Eagles77
11-29-2009, 12:07 PM
TD Redskins. Great start, ****.

djp
11-29-2009, 12:08 PM
Vikings did an onside kick to open the season remember.. it's rare, but possible.

cvv84
11-29-2009, 12:08 PM
TD Washington.how do ya like that call now Andy

And if it worked it would be the other way around. The Redskins weren't expecting it but they caught a break and got great field position. Anyways GO SKINS!

critesy
11-29-2009, 12:09 PM
lmao at eagles.

critesy
11-29-2009, 12:10 PM
btw, jason campbell is 2-0 at the eagles.

UKfan
11-29-2009, 12:10 PM
Houston TD, even fooled the CBS cameraman. This could be a lonnnnnnng day, hope Peyton is on point cos the D do not look good so far.

Hurricanes25
11-29-2009, 12:11 PM
TD Darelle Revis.

vidae
11-29-2009, 12:11 PM
Surprisingly not really even on Delhomme for that one!

SuperMcGee
11-29-2009, 12:12 PM
Too fancy, blowfish.

Babylon
11-29-2009, 12:12 PM
Could have a zero zero OT tie with the Rams and Seahawks. both teams look like they're tanking it today.

Go_Eagles77
11-29-2009, 12:12 PM
lol the commentator just said "the last thing Donovan wants is something that shrinks his package"

Go_Eagles77
11-29-2009, 12:14 PM
Eagles running it down their throat. I love it.

Todd Bertuzzi
11-29-2009, 12:14 PM
Today is a good day to be a McCoy fantasy owner.

gsorace
11-29-2009, 12:15 PM
I'd go *** for Darrelle Revis

ThePudge
11-29-2009, 12:16 PM
Larry Johnson with a 10 and 12 yard run early. 2 car 22 yds (for those who can't add themselves). Bengals look to run past Cleveland today.

TitanHope
11-29-2009, 12:17 PM
Oh Matt Ryan, please don't be hurt.

critesy
11-29-2009, 12:18 PM
nice hold the eagles to a fg.

Scotty D
11-29-2009, 12:18 PM
Conor Barwin sack! Peyton hit the deck like a little girl lol

Go_Eagles77
11-29-2009, 12:19 PM
DJax gets his first redzone TD taken away with a penalty.

Sniper
11-29-2009, 12:19 PM
Another red-zone failure.

cvv84
11-29-2009, 12:19 PM
Larry Johnson with a 10 and 12 yard run early. 2 car 22 yds (for those who can't add themselves). Bengals look to run past Cleveland today.

Who needs to run when you calk take a nice Sunday stroll through Cleveland and that defense.

Zaytoven
11-29-2009, 12:19 PM
Haha, nice play Celek. What is he thinking?

ATLDirtyBirds
11-29-2009, 12:19 PM
No stream, Ryan hurt, Freeman having his way with us. Cool.

SuperMcGee
11-29-2009, 12:20 PM
Could have a zero zero OT tie with the Rams and Seahawks. both teams look like they're tanking it today.

Forsett is too awesome for that nonsense.

Boo to penalties. We picked up a first and they had a personal foul, but it all goes to naught because we can't block.

ThePudge
11-29-2009, 12:20 PM
Who needs to run when you calk take a nice Sunday stroll through Cleveland and that defense.

Every team but the Bengals at least. We have more trouble with Cleveland (even the bad teams) than we should.

3-0 after an up and down first drive for Cincinnati.

Tampa 2 4 life
11-29-2009, 12:20 PM
I love how it feels like a great drive and the Bucs are at the 50.

UKfan
11-29-2009, 12:23 PM
That's twice we have been fooled by that PA rollout, irritating, we look like Cleveland...

Jvig43
11-29-2009, 12:24 PM
Hahaha announcers "someone better go and tell the Colts D that they have a game to play today". haha Harsh.

BufFan71
11-29-2009, 12:25 PM
Anyone have a link to the MIA/BUFF game???

Tampa 2 4 life
11-29-2009, 12:26 PM
Matt Ryan with a jammed toe.