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SickwithIt1010
11-28-2009, 09:37 PM
At one time a very highly rated recruit who went to LSU, and looked to have a very bright future...He was dismissed from the team for violating team rules, and transferred to Jacksonville State and is playing very well this year.

Season Stats:

138-236 for 2,345 and 23 TD's to only 2 picks- QB Rating of 172.4

443 rushing yds and 8 tds

I think that this is a guy who has a ton of talent. Anyone think a team will take a shot on him with a late round pick?

roidrunner
11-28-2009, 09:50 PM
Mr. irrelevant

descendency
11-28-2009, 09:55 PM
7th round at the earliest. He has massive character issues to get kicked of an LSU team... (no offense, but you practically have to kill someone to get kicked off a team as a QB of a major program).

RaiderNation
11-28-2009, 10:31 PM
Future Oakland Raider

devinhester=R.O.Y 2006
11-28-2009, 10:55 PM
Worth a shot as a UDFA, not sure if the risk of spending a pick on someone who will more than likely be passed over by most NFL teams during the draft is worth it.

lordquas
11-28-2009, 10:57 PM
no chance of any NFL future, and won't even get drafted.
UFL for sure

Nalej
11-28-2009, 11:13 PM
He'll get drafted... very late

BroadwayJoe10
11-29-2009, 11:11 AM
The kid has all the talent in the world...from the neck down. If he where still playin for LSU and putting up some numbers, he'd be getting a lot of talk. Fact of the matter is, he's not at LSU and is playing for Jack State, so he'll get drafted based on his tools and will go in the late, late rounds.


Damn that kid broke my heart when he got thrown off LSU..had big hopes for him. Wish these guys would stop wasting their unbelievable talent..

ATLDirtyBirds
11-29-2009, 11:17 AM
UDFA in my mind.

Saints-Tigers
11-29-2009, 11:18 AM
He fell a little bit short of his 4 heisman prediction.

FUNBUNCHER
11-29-2009, 11:30 AM
7th round at the earliest. He has massive character issues to get kicked of an LSU team... (no offense, but you practically have to kill someone to get kicked off a team as a QB of a major program).

LOL!!
Yeah, he's going to have to prove he can stay out of trouble as a 3rd teamer/practice squad player before he's given a chance to play meaningful snaps for an NFL team.
I forgot how it was reported, but there's no way I believe the #1 prep QB recruit in the country got kicked off an SEC squad like LSU for 'one' violation.

Guys like Willie Williams, Lawrence Phillips, etc just don't get it, no matter how talented they are.

SickwithIt1010
11-29-2009, 12:25 PM
LOL!!
Yeah, he's going to have to prove he can stay out of trouble as a 3rd teamer/practice squad player before he's given a chance to play meaningful snaps for an NFL team.
I forgot how it was reported, but there's no way I believe the #1 prep QB recruit in the country got kicked off an SEC squad like LSU for 'one' violation.

Guys like Willie Williams, Lawrence Phillips, etc just don't get it, no matter how talented they are.

Well they said it was just a lot of things that had built up over sometime. It was reports that he had been continuously missing classes, and had been missing team meetings so they had just had enough.

MetSox17
11-29-2009, 04:40 PM
This guy reminds me of Adrian McPherson.

brat316
11-29-2009, 04:49 PM
UFL is where he ends up

Borat
11-29-2009, 05:49 PM
I can't imagine any team wanting this guy to potentially take a snap for them. That's just silly talk.

billybeejr
11-29-2009, 06:52 PM
A lot of his problems were immediately after his father died, you guys would be shocked how much growing up a kid can do in a couple years away from the spotlight.

Prophet
11-30-2009, 12:50 AM
It definetly wasn't just one infraction that got Ryan dismissed. Les Miles last straw was a failed drug test, most don't know that was Perrilloux's 7th failed drug test at LSU.
He was ones of the biggest recruits to ever come out of Louisiana so yes, it took practically breaking every rule known to man to get the boot. Miles gave him repeated chances and he squandered them all. Not only was he a drug user, but he was well known to student-athletes to be a drug dealer, he was busted using counterfit money as well as attmepting to use a fake ID at a BR casino. And who can forget the time he ran into a state trooper with his car. The fact that he never showed up to class and showed up to practices and team meetings at his own leisure are miniscule compared to all of that.
His character issue's have all but sealed his draft status despite his amazing talent. Guys still close to Ryan tell me he's gorwn up a lot, for his sake I hope he gets a shot an a udfa.

Staubach12
11-30-2009, 01:38 PM
The interviews will determine if he gets drafted. I hope for his sake he's a changed man or a fantastic liar.

Prophet
11-30-2009, 01:46 PM
The interviews will determine if he gets drafted. I hope for his sake he's a changed man or a fantastic liar.

Well once every team get the full Perrilloux s**t list, he might have a hard time defending himself in Indy. I also hope he is a changed man, but a past that littered with behavioral problems will be hard defend.

Brent
11-30-2009, 02:10 PM
I can't imagine any team wanting this guy to potentially take a snap for them. That's just silly talk.
Yeah, the dude seems like a ******* headcase.

princefielder28
11-30-2009, 02:25 PM
I think there will be one team that is willing to spend a draft pick on this guy. He has the tools to be a big time player and there's no questioning the talent is there. Have character concerns stopped teams in the past? No and if goes out and does the same old **** and messes up then you kick him to the curb, but if he interviews well enough and shows a bit of maturity, there's gonna be a team that takes the chance.

FUNBUNCHER
11-30-2009, 02:31 PM
I think he's a training camp invite at best. He's going to have to earn his way back into organized football.

Borat
11-30-2009, 02:56 PM
Yeah, wasting a draft pick and then having to pay six figures to a drug addict is just an awful idea.

ALP1987
11-30-2009, 04:14 PM
Some team will take a chance on him. Wasn't Bernard Scott the same way last season? He had all the off the field and on the field issues but the Bengals took him in the 6th round and i could see a team doing the same with Perrilloux. 6th-7th round. I don't think he goes undrafted.

SickwithIt1010
11-30-2009, 09:31 PM
Its a shame really, he had some of the best tools ive seen in a long time. Big mobile QB with a great arm, i think that he was going to be really special before it was all said and done...but i guess some people don't get it. I really hope that he gets a chance in the league and gets a chance to prove hes changed....

Who knows....

619
11-30-2009, 09:43 PM
Its a shame really, he had some of the best tools ive seen in a long time. Big mobile QB with a great arm, i think that he was going to be really special before it was all said and done...but i guess some people don't get it. I really hope that he gets a chance in the league and gets a chance to prove hes changed....

Who knows....

I was convinced a little while back that he would be a McNabb clone. I mean Bomar got drafted last year and this guy has far superior tools and their production is similar so hopefully someone gives him a shot as a very late draft pick. I haven't heard of any character issues since his dismissal, that could be a good sign.

SickwithIt1010
11-30-2009, 09:50 PM
I was convinced a little while back that he would be a McNabb clone. I mean Bomar got drafted last year and this guy has far superior tools and their production is similar so hopefully someone gives him a shot as a very late draft pick. I haven't heard of any character issues since his dismissal, that could be a good sign.

Yeah he has a lot of the tools that Donovan has, which is a good mix to be successful. Curious to see how the process goes for him, definitely going to be a guy that i keep track of around draft time.

wogitalia
11-30-2009, 10:12 PM
I can certainly see a team take him in the 6th or 7th as a developmental guy. He is basically a low risk, very high reward guy at that point. Genuinely has the ability to be a franchise QB and at the 6th onwards that type of upside really starts to outweigh his flaws, which are numerous.

I would love to see him land on a team like New England where he can sit for 4 or 5 years at least and learn. Alternatively, he might be worth a flyer somewhere like Minnesota, where he can sit for probably 1 more year behind Favre and possibly behind Rosenfels or someone else and learn.

Think that will be a major key to success, needs to sit and learn and as much as anything, prove that he can stay out of trouble and bad situation.

WCH
11-30-2009, 11:16 PM
His problems stem from a period of mental illness; and he's supposedly past that, now.

I've had close friends going through that, and some of them fully recovered; and I'll tell you, the hardest part is getting people to NOT assume that you're bat-**** insane. Once that stigma hits you, it sticks with you. Even among your closest friends.

He actually made a significant tactical error by trying to use OCD as an explanation for his drug use. Mind you, the OCD probably was the reason for his drug use, but he really shouldn't have come clean about that. Nobody wants to invest hundreds of thousands of dollars in a crazy person.

Ultimately, he has to have stellar interviews to get drafted (because the assumption is that he's a whacko). If the interviews are anything less than stellar, then he's probably going to have to prove himself in the CFL.

Prophet
11-30-2009, 11:28 PM
I was convinced a little while back that he would be a McNabb clone. I mean Bomar got drafted last year and this guy has far superior tools and their production is similar so hopefully someone gives him a shot as a very late draft pick. I haven't heard of any character issues since his dismissal, that could be a good sign.

Bomar made one rectifiable effor in judgement, Perrilloux commited multiple felonies and misdemeanors. Quite the difference.

FUNBUNCHER
12-01-2009, 04:56 AM
His problems stem from a period of mental illness; and he's supposedly past that, now.

I've had close friends going through that, and some of them fully recovered; and I'll tell you, the hardest part is getting people to NOT assume that you're bat-**** insane. Once that stigma hits you, it sticks with you. Even among your closest friends.



Unless he has a documented history of OCD over the past several years, I don't buy this.
Remember, there are rumors that Perrilloux DEALT drugs at LSU. Is that attributable to OCD too??
He reminds me a lot of Maurice Clarrett, a self-made head case who lacked the maturity to succeed.

Former FSU QB Adrian McPherson is the athlete whom Perrilloux is most similar; equal talent, wasted potential.
McPherson was another all-world HS QB who was kicked out of school, supposedly worked to redeem himself at a lower level program and bounced around on a practice squad for a while. Currently I think he's out of the league.
If Perrilloux played any position other than QB, I could see some team giving him a real shot. But lately I've seen very few teams take a big chance on a signal caller with major character concerns.

Prophet
12-01-2009, 12:01 PM
McPherson was another all-world HS QB who was kicked out of school, supposedly worked to redeem himself at a lower level program and bounced around on a practice squad for a while. Currently I think he's out of the league.


McPherson didn't get a fair shake at FSU b/c of Bowden's man crush on Chris Rix. When he finally got on the field he was dismissed shortly after. McPherson never played a serious college snap again leading to a career in the AFL and now the CFL.
Perrilloux at least has the advantage of a 2 year body of work at JSU where he has performed well and has generally displayed good behavior.

FUNBUNCHER
12-01-2009, 12:07 PM
McPherson didn't get a fair shake at FSU b/c of Bowden's man crush on Chris Rix. When he finally got on the field he was dismissed shortly after. McPherson never played a serious college snap again leading to a career in the AFL and now the CFL.
Perrilloux at least has the advantage of a 2 year body of work at JSU where he has performed well and has generally displayed good behavior.

I don't know whether McPherson got a fair shot at FSU since he got himself kicked out of school for gambling. Again, I don't believe he got the boot for one incident.
Who's to say he wouldn't have earned the starting gig over Rix given time??

CC.SD
12-01-2009, 12:21 PM
Still >Jamarcus

Prophet
12-01-2009, 12:38 PM
I don't know whether McPherson got a fair shot at FSU since he got himself kicked out of school for gambling. Again, I don't believe he got the boot for one incident.
Who's to say he wouldn't have earned the starting gig over Rix given time??

He was in the process of earning the starting gig before he got the boot. Midway through the 02 season Bowden had no choice but to replace Rix due to his ineffectiveness. He didn't get dismissed for gambling, he got dismissed for cashing stolen checks, he was later charged with gambling. Once his felonies hit the newswire Bowden immeadiately dismissed him so the program could save face. Prior to that McPherson had no real issues.
Most thought leading into the 02 season McPherson outperformed Rix and deserved the start. Rix had to play like total garbage for McPherson to finally get on the field, but when he did he played lights out. He was FSU's QB of the future then blew it rite away, much like Perrilloux at LSU.
The difference being Perrilloux transfered and cleaned up his act. McPherson bolted to the AFL.

DiG
01-26-2010, 04:05 PM
dont usually bump old threads but wanted to get everyones more recent thoughts on perrilloux. he finished the season with 23 passing tds and only 2 ints as well as 500 rushing yards and 8 rushing tds. I believe he is participating in the Texas vs the Nation game on February 6th. Obviously interviews are going to be huge for this guy but with his upside and should he interview well, how high could he end up getting drafted? Is 3rd or 4th round possible considering this years rather unimpressive qb class? I think physically he is going to embarrass some other qbs at the combine.

YAYareaRB
01-26-2010, 04:36 PM
dont usually bump old threads but wanted to get everyones more recent thoughts on perrilloux. he finished the season with 23 passing tds and only 2 ints as well as 500 rushing yards and 8 rushing tds. I believe he is participating in the Texas vs the Nation game on February 6th. Obviously interviews are going to be huge for this guy but with his upside and should he interview well, how high could he end up getting drafted? Is 3rd or 4th round possible considering this years rather unimpressive qb class? I think physically he is going to embarrass some other qbs at the combine.

Best case scenario..

+Good TvN Game
+Good Interviews
+Good Combine Performance
+Good Interviews at Combine

I would definitely see him breaking 3rd maybe 2nd. The only thing that would scare teams away are his off field problems, which SEEM to be far behind him at this point.

mario
01-26-2010, 05:25 PM
Best case scenario..

+Good TvN Game
+Good Interviews
+Good Combine Performance
+Good Interviews at Combine

I would definitely see him breaking 3rd maybe 2nd. The only thing that would scare teams away are his off field problems, which SEEM to be far behind him at this point.
Even doing that great perfomance on (TvN Game & Combine) and off the field (interviews) i can't see him beyond late 4th round.

Just my two cents...


Regards!!

FUNBUNCHER
01-26-2010, 06:29 PM
5th to 6th rounder, but not based on talent, it's his off the field issues.

A guy like Perrilloux will practically have to walk-on an NFL team and be lucky to make the practice squad, then work his way up to third team the following year.
He's got a long road to go to get playing time in the NFL and prove his worthiness to NFL GMs.

If you're not the starter, there's hardly any reps for a backup QB, even in preseason. Scout team for a while looks like his ceiling.

Dude really screwed up getting kicked out of LSU, which takes some effort when you're generally considered the #1 prep recruit in the country.

Saints-Tigers
01-26-2010, 06:52 PM
Lol at the guys that used to tell me Tebow would do more for Florida than Ryan would do for LSU. LOL


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****.

JoeJoeBrown
01-26-2010, 07:18 PM
I remember when Ryan Perrilloux was at the AA game and said, "Ryan Perrilloux chooses LSU." Every Longhorn fan should rejoice at remembering those words being uttered.

What a colossal piece of crap thug. Like someone else said, you practically have to murder someone to get kicked out of an SEC school if you are the starting QB. It's sad what these kids get away with at big programs. Hell, any program. I know of some crazy crap that happens at D3 schools.

CC.SD
01-26-2010, 09:47 PM
Lol at the guys that used to tell me Tebow would do more for Florida than Ryan would do for LSU. LOL


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****.

hahaha yeah somebody forgot to tell Ryan.

I still think somebody will give him a shot at developing his way (over multiple years) into at least a chance at a starting shot. The ceiling is there, that's all that matters to NFL teams.

YAYareaRB
01-26-2010, 10:37 PM
The ceiling is there

and it's pretty much sky high right now

SUP
01-27-2010, 12:20 AM
He was in the process of earning the starting gig before he got the boot. Midway through the 02 season Bowden had no choice but to replace Rix due to his ineffectiveness. He didn't get dismissed for gambling, he got dismissed for cashing stolen checks, he was later charged with gambling. Once his felonies hit the newswire Bowden immeadiately dismissed him so the program could save face. Prior to that McPherson had no real issues.
Most thought leading into the 02 season McPherson outperformed Rix and deserved the start. Rix had to play like total garbage for McPherson to finally get on the field, but when he did he played lights out. He was FSU's QB of the future then blew it rite away, much like Perrilloux at LSU.
The difference being Perrilloux transfered and cleaned up his act. McPherson bolted to the AFL.



Because of the gambling allegations, McPherson wasnt ever cleared to play in the NCAA again. He tried transferring to like Tenn St or some **** like that.

MetSox17
01-27-2010, 12:51 AM
I remember when Ryan Perrilloux was at the AA game and said, "Ryan Perrilloux chooses LSU." Every Longhorn fan should rejoice at remembering those words being uttered.

What a colossal piece of crap thug. Like someone else said, you practically have to murder someone to get kicked out of an SEC school if you are the starting QB. It's sad what these kids get away with at big programs. Hell, any program. I know of some crazy crap that happens at D3 schools.

That right there is the curse of Mack Brown. You double cross us, you GO DOWN.

nyqua
01-27-2010, 01:27 AM
He'll be an UDFA for sure and he'll just have to stick to a team.

YAYareaRB
01-27-2010, 09:42 AM
He'll be an UDFA for sure and he'll just have to stick to a team.

I dunno if he'll be a UDFA after the combine. He's gonna be looking like the best QB prospect (from a physical standpoint) at the combine.

619
01-27-2010, 09:53 AM
I dunno if he'll be a UDFA after the combine. He's gonna be looking like the best QB prospect (from a physical standpoint) at the combine.

That honor will go to Jarrett Brown.

YAYareaRB
01-27-2010, 09:56 AM
That honor will go to Jarrett Brown.

With arm in addition? I don't think Brown has the arm of Perrilloux but to each his own..

619
01-27-2010, 10:03 AM
With arm in addition? I don't think Brown has the arm of Perrilloux but to each his own..

They're about on par on arm strength. I'll call it a draw. Overall, they're similar, with character/intangibles (in favor of Brown) and decision-making (in favor of Perrilloux) being the principal differences I can cite between the two.

GoRavens
01-27-2010, 10:28 AM
Perrilloux is better than Brown for sure.
Late round draft pick, 6th round... if he's lucky

nepg
01-27-2010, 04:14 PM
The guy is 4 years older. He and Fred Rouse thought they owned the world when they were recruits. They both let it go to their heads, and they both made really stupid decisions. I'm willing to be Perriloux is a much different person at this point in his life, and I'd say whether I'd draft him would depend on an interview.

DiG
01-27-2010, 04:35 PM
The guy is 4 years older. He and Fred Rouse thought they owned the world when they were recruits. They both let it go to their heads, and they both made really stupid decisions. I'm willing to be Perriloux is a much different person at this point in his life, and I'd say whether I'd draft him would depend on an interview.

I agree with this. He's going to be an intriguing prospect and probably will range on draft boards anywhere from rd 3 to udfa depending on interviews and different coaching philosophies. personally, if he tested well in interviews id consider taking a flier on him in the 4th given his upside. its obviously a high risk but i think in the 4th you can justify it if he interviews well.

yourfavestoner
01-27-2010, 04:53 PM
His draft stock is about the same as Adrian McPherson's was when he became eligible. 5th round-undrafted.

Brent
01-27-2010, 06:21 PM
Adrian MacPherson could run, and played well in the arena league when that was considered acceptable. Ryan Perrilloux is not going to get drafted higher than a mid-6th.

CC.SD
01-27-2010, 07:55 PM
I loved Adrian McPherson. He was my change of pace backup for a bunch of years in Madden!

Brent
01-27-2010, 08:30 PM
I loved Adrian McPherson. He was my change of pace backup for a bunch of years in Madden!
I'd be lying if I said I hadnt won cash by betting on his games in the AFL.

Saints-Tigers
01-27-2010, 08:44 PM
McPherson actually showed some signs and the coaching staff was liking him, then when he got rolled over by the mascot in the golf cart, it was all down hill from there.

wogitalia
01-27-2010, 10:09 PM
I loved Adrian McPherson. He was my change of pace backup for a bunch of years in Madden!

He was so damn injury prone though. Like his running was basically countered because you had to get out of bounds at the end of every run but he was great in Madden.

Perrilloux is still interesting as a prospect, I haven't followed closely but I haven't heard of him getting in any trouble at JVille State so that's a big positive.