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coordinator0
12-01-2009, 09:21 PM
The Ravens head up to Green Bay for their final (barring any flex-scheduling) prime-time game of the regular season. Should be a great game, hopefully Suggs comes back for this one. We could really use him against a weaker GB offensive line. Who we match up on their receivers will be interesting as well. Jennings is having a down year, but I could see him impacting this game. However, I think I would put Foxworth on him and let Webb cover Driver. Our best corner vs. their best receiver :D.

http://www.coaches-choice.com/usrimage/f127.jpg

I have a feeling there will be a lot of those too.

EdReedUnstoppable
12-02-2009, 02:16 AM
In a game this close I'll take the home team...

Green bay 28
Baltimore 24

I think they'll be able to throw the ball on us with relative ease, because even though they have a horendous OL our pass rush is worse! Offensively I think we can do some things but will it be enough?

America
12-02-2009, 01:27 PM
Green Bay's D has been unbelievably good this year. They're better than their record shows, 2 of their losses have been to Brett and Co. It'll be a really tough game. Pass rush is key.

BmoreBlackByrdz
12-02-2009, 02:16 PM
Yeah, getting to Rogers will be key. I hope Suggs will play. I'm kinda worried about the same things ERU is. Our defense is probably going to get torn apart by Rogers, the key is, can our offense, keep up? I hope we bring out the 3 headed monster and wear down on their defense.

Thus far, our defense has played their best football all season, I think they were a top 5 defense in November and if they can keep it up against GB, I say we win. Physical teams >>> Finesse teams.

edit- just read on Baltimore Ravens.com

Marshall Yanda and Lardarius Webb are now "officially" full time starters. I love both these changes. Moving Yanda up probably means we are going back to the run game more and Webb starting is just a must. The guy is just a great overall player.

Ravens1991
12-02-2009, 11:26 PM
IDK if they will really pass on us, Manning was able to only score 17 points, Rogers is good but he is no manning.

and if we can get pressure that will be good, but our system just sucks plain and simple. We cant sack a 3rd string QB once w/ a so-so o-line, I Doubt we get to Rogers a lot.

I see 28-17 Ravens

EdReedUnstoppable
12-03-2009, 12:26 PM
IDK if they will really pass on us, Manning was able to only score 17 points, Rogers is good but he is no manning.

and if we can get pressure that will be good, but our system just sucks plain and simple. We cant sack a 3rd string QB once w/ a so-so o-line, I Doubt we get to Rogers a lot.

I see 28-17 Ravens

Yes Rogers may not be Manning but.....

Greg Jennings > Austin Collie
James Jones or Jordy Nelson > Pierre Garcon

And now you have to look at it like this....

Webb on Jennings good matchup
Foxworth on Driver Not so good
Carr on Nelson awful mismatch
Walker on Jones awful mismatch


Btw I may be goin to this game now, if this comes through its a dream come true, always wanted to go to Lambeau!!!

coordinator0
12-03-2009, 04:11 PM
Not sure if I agree that Jones, and especially Nelson, are better than Garcon but I see the point you're trying to make. Honestly I think the Colts receivers are a lot better than Green Bay's, as is their QB, but GB's might have skill sets that match up better with our secondary. It will be an intersting game for sure, and good luck with going to GB! (I'm hearing that it will be sub 32 F and a chance of snow, that would be great!).

vikes_28
12-03-2009, 04:13 PM
Dear Ravens,

Please beat the Packers this week.

yours truly,
Vikes_29

Hines
12-03-2009, 09:18 PM
Personally, I see this as a 30-17 victory for the Packers. No slight to the Ravens because I want them to lose and they're ahead of the Steelers, but just how I personally see it.

coordinator0
12-03-2009, 09:30 PM
Personally, I see this as a 30-17 victory for the Packers. No slight to the Ravens because I want them to lose and they're ahead of the Steelers, but just how I personally see it.

You have us losing by what would be the biggest margin all year to a team that is easily the worst out of all the teams we've lost to (no slight to GB, but they aren't better than MIN, NE, IND, or CIN)? I guess the bold part sums it up though...

Hines
12-03-2009, 09:37 PM
I guess the bolded part is how I feel as well. You caught me. haha. I have AR and Rice on my fantasy team so I hope they put up huge numbers.

dcarey20
12-03-2009, 09:46 PM
Ravens 27
Packers 20

I think we're a better team.

coordinator0
12-03-2009, 09:54 PM
I guess the bolded part is how I feel as well. You caught me. haha. I have AR and Rice on my fantasy team so I hope they put up huge numbers.

I think you've got a safe bet in both lol. Isn't Rodgers the top fantasy QB this year (in my league he is, but scoring rules are a bit different).

EdReedUnstoppable
12-03-2009, 11:42 PM
YOURS TRULY IS GOING TO THE GAME!!!!!

Leaving sunday morning driving out and coming back tuesday morning, AWESOME!!!!!

Ravens1991
12-04-2009, 09:17 AM
wow that must be a long drive, have fun. I always love going to away games but this year I couldnt make it

EdReedUnstoppable
12-04-2009, 12:14 PM
15 hours 7 hours shorter than the drive to Dallas I made last year for the final game at Texas Stadium!!!! Lets hope for a similar outcome to this game!

Ravens1991
12-04-2009, 01:00 PM
ya I give you props 4 going to the dallas game, I still cant believe we kicked there ass that game.

Hines
12-04-2009, 03:44 PM
Because the Cowgirls suck in December. But ERU, why didn't you take a plane? More exciting to drive, or what?

dcarey20
12-04-2009, 09:13 PM
YOURS TRULY IS GOING TO THE GAME!!!!!

Leaving sunday morning driving out and coming back tuesday morning, AWESOME!!!!!

Thats awesome dude!!

EdReedUnstoppable
12-05-2009, 12:26 AM
Because the Cowgirls suck in December. But ERU, why didn't you take a plane? More exciting to drive, or what?

1. We planned this trip on Thursday so to fly would have almost doubled the price of the trip.

2. I absolutely hate to fly.

3. Roadtrips dominate everything!!! We're stoppin through Chicago and Notre Dame on the way back, can't do that with Southwest.

A Perfect Score
12-07-2009, 01:11 AM
In a game this close I'll take the home team...

Green bay 28
Baltimore 24

I think they'll be able to throw the ball on us with relative ease, because even though they have a horendous OL our pass rush is worse! Offensively I think we can do some things but will it be enough?

Im curious to know how many games you have actually picked us to win in this year.

That said, I agree to an extent. I think Ray Rice and Flacco will have a heyday with that transitioning defense, as long as they steer clear of Woodson when moving the ball, as hes playing out of his mind. I think screens and short patterns will really wreak havoc with those backers still adjusting to 3-4 coverage schemes.

I do think they will be able to pass with ease, but I also expect them to limit Rodgers' ability to move in the pocket, which will dramatically hinder his ability to pass, as hes at his best when hes moving around. It will be interesting to see how much of an impact Suggs's status has on the game as well.

Ill give it to the Ravens by 7, because I think we are the better team, but it wouldnt surprise me to see the Packers take it by 7 either if we cant keep our penalties under control and if Mattison decides not to dial up the blitzes.

America
12-07-2009, 12:03 PM
Ravens 100
Packers 0

You heard it here first

TitleTown088
12-07-2009, 02:06 PM
That said, I agree to an extent. I think Ray Rice and Flacco will have a heyday with that transitioning defense

Have you seen the Packers D play much? It's no cupcake defense. I'm not saying it can't be done, but it's a good defense that is much improved from the early part of the season.

RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES
12-07-2009, 02:17 PM
Have you seen the Packers D play much? It's no cupcake defense. I'm not saying it can't be done, but it's a good defense that is much improved from the early part of the season.

Have you seen Ray Rice play much? He's no cupcake RB. I'm not saying it can't be done, but he's a good RB that is much improved from last season.

I can do it too. Just saying that not many teams can stop Rice and he has proved that all season long. Our defense has been playing better and Ed Reed is dying for a breakout game. I think it is going to be a close one and as usual I say Ravens win by 4 24-20.

BmoreBlackByrdz
12-07-2009, 02:55 PM
I've had a bad feeling about this game all week. If we win, its HUGE. We win tonight and all we have to do is beat Chicago, Detroit and Oakland and we're at 10-6! However, if we lose, we must beat Chicago, Detroit, Oakland AND Pittsburgh.

This game is gonna be huge, probably the biggest game of our season, I just hope we win!

Hines
12-07-2009, 03:09 PM
Go Packers!

Oh, and Suggs isn't going to play I heard from ESPN.

BmoreBlackByrdz
12-07-2009, 04:15 PM
yeah he didn't make the trip. He's got other issues to deal with anyways, if anyone didn't hear, his wife or fiance file a retraining order against him.


Also, almost everything you look at in this game favors the Packers -
Packers are coming off a Thursday game so they have had an extra 3 days off whereas the Ravens are coming of a physical Monday Night battle.

Packers are at home where Rogers has a 100.0+ passer rating and he'll be well rested.

This is one of those games that the Ravens are just going to have to overcome a hell of a lot to come away with a win. right now it doesn't look likely that we win, unless we can generate some kind of a pass rush without sending too many on a blitz cause that WR corp will shred us.

Hines
12-07-2009, 04:47 PM
God I hope the Packers win. If the Steelers don't go to the playoffs, I don't want the Ravens to either.

TitleTown088
12-07-2009, 05:03 PM
God I hope the Packers win. If the Steelers don't go to the playoffs, I don't want the Ravens to either.

Haha, I like how you're posting this in the Ravens forum, as if they're supposed to concur.

Don't worry though baby cheesus will win it ;)

Hines
12-07-2009, 05:10 PM
I always post in these things. These Raven fans are my friends. haha.

coordinator0
12-07-2009, 06:15 PM
Reed and Suggs are out tonight. I'm not liking our chances in this one.

BTW, Zbikowski will be getting the start in Reed's place. I'm excited to see what he can do, even if he's out of position at the FS spot. We'll see if Reed is as important to our defense as Polamalu is to PITs.

Ravens1991
12-07-2009, 06:25 PM
yea I dont like Zbi at FS. he cant cover well i am nervous

coordinator0
12-07-2009, 06:28 PM
I think he will probably be more of a SS and Landry will play more center field tonight. Mattison probably (hopefully) won't have Tom try to do what Ed does.

BmoreBlackByrdz
12-07-2009, 06:32 PM
****. Reed's out. I'm surprised Zbikowski is the one replacing him though. I always though Nakamura was more of the FS.

edit- Nakamura got hurt in the Cleveland game, whoops.

dang, this is gonna hurt. I agree with cordinator0, we will find out how much of an impact Ed Reed really has. He's been cold for most of the season so I wonder if we'll even see much of a difference. This is a huge suprise though, Reed's always banged up but he's always playing. I'm shocked.

This is more of a reason for our offense to run the ball and keep Aaron Rodgers and their offense on the sidelines.

coordinator0
12-07-2009, 06:38 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to see Reed out next Sunday too, since we play the Lions. Maybe two weeks off would be great for Reed and our final 3 game stretch against CHI, PIT, and OAK.

BmoreBlackByrdz
12-07-2009, 06:49 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to see Reed out next Sunday too, since we play the Lions. Maybe two weeks off would be great for Reed and our final 3 game stretch against CHI, PIT, and OAK.

I agree, but if we lose tonight, I want Reed back ASAP, and I don't care if it's against he Lions or the Steelers. a loss tonight means we are in a "must win every game left on the schedule" mode to get to 10-6 and keep up with Denver and Jacksonville.

Hines
12-07-2009, 07:11 PM
Denver and Jax will falter IMO. Pittsburgh(if they win out), Baltimore(if they win out), and either NYJ or Mia will make it. Denver could make it out of Jax/Den.

Ravens1991
12-07-2009, 09:14 PM
wtf is going on. this is embarassing, we suck....

Hines
12-07-2009, 09:24 PM
At least you are losing to a good team.....

BmoreBlackByrdz
12-07-2009, 09:27 PM
Terrible O-line play. No seperation from the WR's. No run game. And a lot of penalties. Everything we've done wrong this year is happening in this game.

Hines
12-07-2009, 09:28 PM
Just give the ball to Mason and Rice.

Whistler6
12-07-2009, 09:29 PM
Green Bay needs to finish. They built a lead against Tampa Bay and we saw what happened late. Same for San Fran, they made it much close than it ever should have been.

Keep the pressure on Capers!

Whistler6
12-07-2009, 09:32 PM
7th rounder Brad Jones just worked 1st round pick Michael Oher

Whistler6
12-07-2009, 09:41 PM
I'm a Packer fan, but these defensive penalties the refs are calling on Baltimore are flat out ridiculous

coordinator0
12-07-2009, 09:46 PM
I'm a Packer fan, but these defensive penalties the refs are calling on Baltimore are flat out ridiculous

We're used to it by now.

Hines
12-07-2009, 09:48 PM
Yes, keep feeding it to Rice and Mason.

America
12-07-2009, 10:52 PM
I think Joe woke up this morning, looked in the mirror and said to himself, how big of a dick am I going to suck today?

coordinator0
12-07-2009, 10:54 PM
Pack it in guys, let's set our sights towards Dez Bryant. Our receivers cannot get separation to save their lives and they aren't capable of making plays. Good thing most of them are free agents after this season.

Ravens1991
12-07-2009, 10:57 PM
this is embarassing.

-our WR are the worst in the NFL, IDC what anyone says they are the worst
-Yes Cam/Harbaugh Demetrius Williams is a talented WR and is a threat if he is in single coverage, maybe he should have played b4 week ******* 13
-why the **** do Washington and Williams never see the field they are our 2 best WR it is ridiculous.
-this play calling is horrible. Cameron always trys to get real cute it is ridiculous
-These penalties are embarassing you cant give up 1/2 as many penalties
-The reason we got 1 sack against the worst Oline in the nFL is because there is no freaking unpredictability, if I know who is blitzing the once in a blue moon we blitz of course GB will know.

BmoreBlackByrdz
12-07-2009, 11:00 PM
Well, here we go. Now we gatta win evey single game left of the schedule to get to 10-6 and into the playoffs where we don't even deserve to be.

Hines
12-07-2009, 11:04 PM
Tough loss for you guys. I know how you feel. But I cannot help but smile knowing that the Ravens might not go to the playoffs. Joe Flacco ******* sucked this game.

Ravens1991
12-07-2009, 11:08 PM
stop freaking trolling, its one thing when you come in and make productive points which you have done before. but its unecessary to come in and say "I am smiling because you guys might not go to the playoffs"

TACKLE
12-07-2009, 11:29 PM
Hello Heisman?



Not really but damn Flacco is frustrating to watch sometimes. I just can't trust him to make the big play when he needs to make it. Still, he's a big upgrade over every QB we've ever had.

Hines
12-07-2009, 11:33 PM
Alright, I will make a few points.

1) I am surprised that the Packers are the only team that loaded the box and made Flacco beat them. They rattled him and it showed. He didn't have his checkdown buddy tonight and you can see it bothered him.

2) The Ravens played very undisiplined. What was it, 13 penalties? Yikes. I think half of those were ********, though.

3) Where has this Ravens defense go? Yes Mattison is to blame, but the players need to make the plays as well.

4) I would **** myself as a Steeler fan if you somehow landed Dez Bryant and another top flight reciever. But in a way, I think it would be wise to work on the defense.

5) This is not the Steelers' or Ravens' year. Sucks because both of these teams are too talented to be struggling like this.

Good luck the rest of the way untill you lose to the Steelers. :D

Ravens1991
12-07-2009, 11:38 PM
I agree w/ what you said, but yes we need to get a pass rush I think its the main fault w/ the D. But a part of it is the players just dont fit. Minnesota doesnt need to be unpredictable because they have freaking Allen,Williams,Williams we dont have that talent.

Hines
12-07-2009, 11:42 PM
I think Kruger, Barnes, Johnson, and Suggs could all be good pass rushers in the league. None of them scare me outside of Suggs, but they could be a solid foursome to have. IMO, you need a number 1 reciever and corner on this team. I love Webb, but I do not believe he'll ever be a number one. Walker has got to go.

Ravens1991
12-07-2009, 11:57 PM
yea but they are not good when they are being telegraphed. They arent a superstar ala Allen that can be unstoppable when the whole world knows where he is coming from. Sexy Rexy was able to mix things up so you had no freaking clue where the blitz was coming from all you know is it was coming. Mattison isnt doing that

TACKLE
12-08-2009, 12:04 AM
As much as it would be nice to have a true #1 like Dez, Ozzie has neglected the glaring need at CB for sometime now. The corners are probably amongst the worst in the league and they've been exposed by some of the better QB's. Rex was able to bring pressure which a lot of times masks the problems at corner. If we could nab a quality, talented CB in the first round, that would go a long way to improve the defense heading into the future.

Ravens1991
12-08-2009, 08:42 AM
I dont believe the CBs are not that bad, they can only do so much w/ no pass rush. After the bye week this is the 1st game with over 17 points. Also I feel this year CB corp is a upgrade over last seasons. And I think Foxworth,Washington,Webb in w/e order will be a fine 3some.

I say we get Mattison out of DC he is over his head trying to force a college defense in the NFL. Look at GB they are in there 1st year of a new system they are the #1 D bc you have no clue who is coming from what angle. The jets were 16th D last year now 5th w/ Rexy. Pitt is always top 3 and they have unpredictability. We need that and our secondary will be fine.

Hines
12-08-2009, 10:51 AM
It's funny that you guys hate your defensive cordinator and the Steelers hate their offensive cordinator. How about we invite them to an alley and beat the **** out of them?

trkaline
12-08-2009, 11:11 AM
It's funny that you guys hate your defensive cordinator and the Steelers hate their offensive cordinator. How about we invite them to an alley and beat the **** out of them?

Sorry, but after we finish with the coordinators your next.

dcarey20
12-08-2009, 01:44 PM
******* Worthless Performance!!!

dcarey20
12-08-2009, 01:58 PM
Domonique Foxworth - biggest waste of money in franchise history

Chris Carr - 2nd biggest waste of money in franchise history, even at 2.5 million a year.

Frank Walker - Absolute trash, and he struts around as if he's of some value or something. One of the least tolerable players on the team.

Cam Cameron - What the hell was that gameplan last night? Shotgun on 2nd down and goal? We talk about how we wanna establish the run game, and Joe Flacco throws all damn night. Flea Flickers? Play action from the one yard line on 1st and goal? Refusal to use Le'Ron McClain in short yardage situation when all he's ever done is convert them?

Pass Rush - Couldn't get pressure against the worst offensive line in the NFL.

Joe Flacco - WOW. Just WOW. I'm literally in shock at how bad he has played as of late. You would have thought he would have learned after throwing away the Indy game on a horrible INT, but no, he goes and actually makes a worst decision against GB. That throw across his body was god awful and unfuckingacceptable for an NFL QB.

Receivers - If we don't go WR in the first round of next year's draft I think I'll throw my remote through my TV. We've put it off for long enough. It's pathetic to watch when we play good corners and these guys can't get open to save their lives.

WORTHLESS, WORTHLESS, WORTHLESS.

Its been a day and I'm still steaming about how terrible they performed in such a big game. This team has SERIOUS issues right now, and I am SICK AND TIRED of seeing the same BS week after week after week.

****

RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES
12-08-2009, 05:04 PM
Well I have decided not to go on a rant and be all pissed off and just not care what happens until the draft comes. I honestly believe we will **** up any chance of playoffs we have so I am just looking forward to who we are going to draft.

TACKLE
12-08-2009, 05:10 PM
I dont believe the CBs are not that bad, they can only do so much w/ no pass rush. After the bye week this is the 1st game with over 17 points. Also I feel this year CB corp is a upgrade over last seasons. And I think Foxworth,Washington,Webb in w/e order will be a fine 3some.

They're OK. The thing is there are a lot of very talented WR's in the NFL right now and especially in the AFC. There's nobody on the list I would trust against any top flight WR. Santonio has owned recently. If Ozzie took a talented CB in either the first or second round, I think we could forget about CB as a need for years to come.

Ravens1991
12-08-2009, 05:46 PM
true but I want us to go back to organized chaos(we still have the pieces) and I think the CBs will be fine. last season w/ OC we had the #2 pass defense in the league

Foxworth is better then Rolle
Washington=Washington
Webb is 1 trillion times better then Walker
Carr is on par or better then martin
walker is better then oglesby, oglesby isnt even in the league

I think this years CBs are better then last season. Its just we dont get any pass rush at all its embarassing. Look at GB d how they were unpredictable we probably run the most predictable defense in the NFL

coordinator0
12-08-2009, 06:41 PM
true but I want us to go back to organized chaos(we still have the pieces) and I think the CBs will be fine. last season w/ OC we had the #2 pass defense in the league

Foxworth is better then Rolle
Washington=Washington
Webb is 1 trillion times better then Walker
Carr is on par or better then martin
walker is better then oglesby, oglesby isnt even in the league

I think this years CBs are better then last season. Its just we dont get any pass rush at all its embarassing. Look at GB d how they were unpredictable we probably run the most predictable defense in the NFL

Precisely. People are quick to jump on the players, but they really haven't gotten worse than what they were last year. I'm not sure I would say Foxworth is better than Rolle was last year, but it's close. IMO the scheme is really what has killed the team this year, both offensively and defensively.

BmoreBlackByrdz
12-08-2009, 06:48 PM
true but I want us to go back to organized chaos(we still have the pieces) and I think the CBs will be fine. last season w/ OC we had the #2 pass defense in the league

Foxworth is better then Rolle
Washington=Washington
Webb is 1 trillion times better then Walker
Carr is on par or better then martin
walker is better then oglesby, oglesby isnt even in the league

I think this years CBs are better then last season. Its just we dont get any pass rush at all its embarrassing. Look at GB d how they were unpredictable we probably run the most predictable defense in the NFL

I gotta agree with you, Mattison wants to generate a pass rush with the front 4, and when he realized that wasn't going to work, he started putting in blitzes, only problem is, is that it is so obvious.. I remember Manning and Rodgers pointing out pre-snap who was blitzing and where they were coming from. Whenever we blitz, it gets picked up because opposing teams know whos coming. It's painful to watch, we made the Steelers and Packers offensive line look like elite groups.

EdReedUnstoppable
12-09-2009, 02:23 PM
The search for a franchise QB marches on.....

D Will wide ******* open twice and Flacco misses him both times, unbelievable!! Luckily on the first one D Will had to slow up so much it drew a PI.

BmoreBlackByrdz
12-09-2009, 04:44 PM
The search for a franchise QB marches on.....

D Will wide ******* open twice and Flacco misses him both times, unbelievable!! Luckily on the first one D Will had to slow up so much it drew a PI.

are you serious? you stuck by Kyle Boller for 5 seasons and you won't even let Joe Flacco finish his 2nd and you're already calling him out??

Hines
12-09-2009, 05:00 PM
Yeah calling Flacco out for a bad year with no real weapons around him is kind've ludacris. Put weapons around him like the Bengals did with Carson and the Steelers did with Ben and I think you'll see his numbers sky rocket.

Hound
12-09-2009, 05:08 PM
The search for a franchise QB marches on.....

D Will wide ******* open twice and Flacco misses him both times, unbelievable!! Luckily on the first one D Will had to slow up so much it drew a PI.

You are a complete moron and Im tired of reading anything you have to say. I usually just read, don't bother posting. But everything you say makes me want to punch someone in the face. That is all.

D Will and Landry suck despite what you claim.

This O-line is underperforming terribly, they were the most underachieving piece of the offense on Sunday. Yes, Flacco was not good. But as much as he struggled, the o-line struggled far greater. Green Bay dominated the trenches on both sides of the ball.

Fortunately as far as the lines go, I think we got the talent on both sides to dominate. Its just a matter of execution. The Defense needs a pass rusher who can create disruption on a more consistent basis. The scheme definitely needs to disguise blitzes better, and I would hope they put more 3-4 looks along with Hybrid looks.

The whole receiving game of this team needs to be redone. Mason is likely gone after the season, Clayton BETTER be gone. Im sure they will resign Washington and DWill as they will be cheap along with some familiarity. Depending on how free agency and the trade market develops this summer, I would hope to see Ozzie make a play for a big time PROVEN WR. We all know the usual suspects, and I would hope that one of them shows up in purple next season. This play needs to be made regardless as to whether we draft an Arrellious Benn or not.

As for TE, Heap isnt worth his 6.3 mil cap hit anymore (6.7 next season). He would produce about 4 mill in dead money (assuming the CBA gets done) for 2010, so it wouldn't be suprising to see him cut. If the CBA gets done and is similiar to the current one, they could also spread that dead cash over 2 years. Hopefully a Tony Scheffler is on the radar of the Ravens in free agency.

Given the likely departures of Trevor Pryce (6.25), Derrick Mason (4.4) Mark Clayton (3.185) and Frank Walker (2.22), along with the clearing of around 15 MILLION IN DEAD MONEY (McNair, Ogden and McCalister) the Ravens should have plenty of Room to extend Ngata and Gaither along with having some room to be players in free agency.

All in all, I think the Ravens will have an opportunity to have a very interesting and productive offseason.

Wow, really went on a rant there.

Rayray52
12-09-2009, 05:12 PM
LOL ERU...classic....just......classic

Hines
12-09-2009, 05:16 PM
My post was in general because I know Raven fans want to get rid of Flacco right now. I think ERU was being sarcastic, although his crush on DWill is kinda scary. :D

EdReedUnstoppable
12-09-2009, 05:31 PM
Obviously its just a statement out of frustration, Jesus Christ I love how Im held to a different standard then everyone else on here.

First off PHUCK YOU HOUND!! Who the **** are you?

Anywho onward.....Obviously its never 1 players fault when you lose a football game but Flacco's monday night game was absolutely awful. D Will was wide open on both the awful throws from Flacco, but you know I love D Will so Im sure everyone will think Im just being homerish on that......now Derrick Mason, who you all know I hate very much and cannot stand, had absolutely burnt the corner on the offensive PI against him, but Flacco "Mr. Strong Arm" has to float every goddam pass he throws. Throw a line drive to him Joe and its a TD.

Basically what Im sayin is I'm not writing off Flacco, but Im just sayin IMO He's not a franchise QB yet, he repeats mistakes which is never good that was Kyle's biggest flaw IMO and now Im seeing the same thing in Flacco. Is Flacco better than Kyle in most aspects of the game, yes better than Kyle ever was or ever will be, but the repetitive mistakes is how a QB becomes a bust real quickly.


We need to get him some weapons absolutely, and I'd like to see a post where I said we have great weapons around Flacco this year.......because it seems like Hound seems to think I think our weapons are fine. Our WR core is one of the worst in the NFL, and you add in butterfinger walking injury Todd Heap it gets even worse.

And in response to dumbass Hound on the whole D Will and Landry sucking thing......
Im assuming you're referring to my sig so......Landry is only on it because I had it made right after that draft class, personally not a huge fan of Landry. D Will on the other hand is the best WR on the team and the only one who seems to get consistently open downfield, however he must have phucked Harbaugh's wife or something because Harbaugh wont put him on the field.

Ravens1991
12-09-2009, 06:16 PM
I think we should extend Dwill. yes it was bad Joe through that red zone INT but it shows he had confidence in Dwill to win a jump ball. The bad thing is Cameron has his head up his ass and mason/clayton will be our starters for the rest of the year. Its ******** because you look at Washington, how many 3rd and longs will he have to convert to get the ball more its ridiculous.


also I feel Zbi should be our SS now and of the future. The guy did very well at FS being put on the spot on extremly short notice. I think he will succeed at SS.

dcarey20
12-09-2009, 07:08 PM
FOXWORTH SUCKS! I really don't care what anyone says, or good he is in comparison to the other horrific corners we have/had, I'm not supporting him anymore. I liked the signing at first, but it's turned into the worst in the history of the Ravens franchise. I really don't care that he's from Maryland, he's playing like complete and utter $hit, especially when you take into account he's one of our highest paid players.

I like the dude, I really do, but as they say on ESPN c'mon man, step your damn game up!!!

Hound
12-09-2009, 10:33 PM
I read this at ravens24x7.com by Brian McFarland regarding Foxworth and the way his contract is structured. The dead money cutting him would produce is not as big as you would think (as always, it depends on the CBA negotiations though)

"Foxworth signed a 4 year, $27.2M contract that reportedly called for $16.5M in “guaranteed” money.

However, the term “guaranteed” is a bit misleading in this case. Foxworth will receive a signing bonus of $4M and an option bonus next year of $6M. Foxworth will also receive a guaranteed reporting bonus of $3.38M in 2009. His 2010 base salary of $3.2M is also guaranteed, but only against injury. So, while $16.58M is “guaranteed”, only $10M of that is really bonus money. The $3.38M reporting bonus is essentially just 2009 base salary – and they are obviously not going to release him this year anyway - and the 2010 base salary of $3.2M is only guaranteed against injury, so if he is released for performance reasons, that $3.2M is not payable to him nor does it count against the Ravens’ Salary Cap. Further, if he was released before 2010, the team would not owe him the $6M option bonus either."

7.5 million would be created in dead money though, which is still a fair bit so I highly doubt he would be cut, nor do I think they should. The year after Im sure they will though seeing as his cap hit start getting up in the 7-8 million range, and cutting him would be down to 5 mill in dead money.

EdReedUnstoppable
12-09-2009, 11:15 PM
If we'd put some pressure on the QB our Dbackfield would look alot better.

Ravens1991
12-10-2009, 09:07 AM
anyone else think its safe to say Zbiokwski should start over Landry at SS. I was impressed w/ Zbi he was put out of position and on the spot and very short notice. I feel he should be above Landry

dcarey20
12-10-2009, 11:51 AM
If we'd put some pressure on the QB our Dbackfield would look alot better.

And that's the case with any defensive backfield. But it doesn't change the fact that our corners flat out suck dick outside of Lardarius. Pass rush has nothing to do with committing pass interference penalties 40 yards downfield, and it has nothing to do with horrific open field tackling that I am forced to watch week in and week out.

RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES
12-10-2009, 12:26 PM
And that's the case with any defensive backfield. But it doesn't change the fact that our corners flat out suck dick outside of Lardarius. Pass rush has nothing to do with committing pass interference penalties 40 yards downfield, and it has nothing to do with horrific open field tackling that I am forced to watch week in and week out.

The reason there are so many penalties is because the lack of pass rush. By the time the QB throws the ball the WR's have had 5 seconds to get open. Even the best cornerbacks can't cover that long

BmoreBlackByrdz
12-10-2009, 02:24 PM
anyone else think its safe to say Zbiokwski should start over Landry at SS. I was impressed w/ Zbi he was put out of position and on the spot and very short notice. I feel he should be above Landry

I 100% agree with you. Landry is terrible in coverage and two of his picks were tipped balls. So that's a dead statistic. Zbikowski is younger, faster and a better hitter. Plus, he looked solid in coverage on Monday and I think he needs more PT on defense. Landry is awful.

BmoreBlackByrdz
12-10-2009, 09:16 PM
Wow. If anyone is watching the Browns vs. Steeeler game, the Browns defense is playing exactly how I think the Ravens should be played.

- players showing blitz, then backing off, then another player opposite of him shows blitz, then also backing off. And then one of em ends up blitzing anyways, or even both of em'

- players lining up in the box then backing into coverage at the snap of the ball.

- players playing with heart and a desire to win the freaking game.

Basically, I want to see organized chaos back here in Baltimore, it would work beautifully. Cause that kind of stuff makes offensive lines account for everybody and that usually leads to them hesitating, which can cost them sacks and QB hurries

Ravens1991
12-10-2009, 09:23 PM
yea it makes me sick whenever I see a attacking D. Before the Steelers game they showed a replay of the Ravens Steelers game when we got ****** over by a ref because he didnt understand the rules and what was being challenged. The broadcasters complimented us on the movement pre-snap and how the QB didnt know wtf was going on. Now when me w/ absolutely zero football experience already knows what is going to happen w/ our D of course the QB does