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Hines
12-09-2009, 07:47 PM
Do or die time for the Steelers. Still not over the loses to KC and Oakland. I am not as confident in winning this game, but I am sure the Steelers will win.

Pat Sims 90
12-09-2009, 07:49 PM
Do or die time for the Steelers. Still not over the loses to KC and Oakland. I am not as confident in winning this game, but I am sure the Steelers will win.

You say it every week and it seems to backfire on u everytime

Hines
12-09-2009, 07:56 PM
You say it every week and it seems to backfire on u everytime

I know. But desperate times calls for desperate measures.

vidae
12-09-2009, 08:00 PM
The last two weeks we've lost by a combined 87-27. Can the Bills put up a third straight 40burger on us? God I hope not.

Splat
12-09-2009, 08:21 PM
I just want to see the Chiefs show up which I know is asking alot.

fenikz
12-09-2009, 08:28 PM
Cards clinch with a win

Timbathia
12-09-2009, 08:29 PM
I am normally only cautiously optimistic about the Broncos chances, but I say they roll the Colts this week, thus completely the sweep of all the AFC divisional leaders (well, a not exactly a sweep but a win against each of them this season).

Matthew Jones
12-09-2009, 08:58 PM
The Patriots are gonna clean up this week. Mostly because they're not on the road. Spurred on by our weirdly quiet stadium we will defend New England from southern invaders.

vikes_28
12-09-2009, 08:59 PM
This is a must win game for the Vikings. Especially after last week's horrid loss. This game as well as last week's will show the true colors of the Minnesota Vikings. What I mean by that, is that if they lose this week's vs. the Bengals, it shows that we can't get a win against a good team, and that our record is the way it is because we have played weak teams. Green Bay is barking right up the Vikings alley.

CC.SD
12-09-2009, 10:38 PM
I am normally only cautiously optimistic about the Broncos chances, but I say they roll the Colts this week, thus completely the sweep of all the AFC divisional leaders (well, a not exactly a sweep but a win against each of them this season).

Yeah okay if the broncos roll the colts ill be extremely surprised to say the least, they are not the chiefs.

Bolts and boys will hopefully go down to the wire, although with some more d line injuries I think dallas will get its running game back on track which is never fun.

Bengalsrocket
12-09-2009, 11:10 PM
Cards clinch with a win

Bengals too. If we win any of our next 4 games we clinch. If Baltimore and Pittsburgh lose one more time this season we clinch.

It's crazy how much we've turned around since last year.

vidae
12-09-2009, 11:11 PM
I heard a rumor that the Chiefs game might be blacked out.

So we are playing the Bills, a team we have a 50/50 shot of beating, and it's blacked out? Come on!

Todd Bertuzzi
12-09-2009, 11:14 PM
Eagles/Giants huge Sunday night showdown.

SuperMcGee
12-10-2009, 01:01 AM
The last two weeks we've lost by a combined 87-27. Can the Bills put up a third straight 40burger on us? God I hope not.

You let us do it last year, somehow.

I really want a healthy Terrence McGee. Please.

HawkeyeFan
12-10-2009, 01:15 AM
Do or die time for the Steelers. Still not over the loses to KC and Oakland. I am not as confident in winning this game, but I am sure the Steelers will win.
What the heck is up with the Steelers?

Flyboy
12-10-2009, 01:50 AM
Go Saints.

bantx
12-10-2009, 02:48 AM
Chargers playing in Arlington and damn you christmas!!! me not having the money to get tickets :CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC and my sister tells me the cheapest tickets are about 70 dollars! :CCCCCC

terribletowel39
12-10-2009, 07:29 AM
Chargers playing in Arlington and damn you christmas!!! me not having the money to get tickets :CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC and my sister tells me the cheapest tickets are about 70 dollars! :CCCCCC
You need to make that happen. There would be no way I would not be attending that game if the Steelers were in Arlington or NOLA.

wogitalia
12-10-2009, 09:06 AM
It's crazy how much we've turned around since last year.

It isnt that surprising really. I didn't expect it but all the signs were there, I just went with the whole Bengals thing for predicting them and a tough division. Your defense was pretty damn good and it was young and you added a star or 2 if you count Rivers. The defense has taken the logical step to being pretty elite now.

Offensively, Benson was solid last year and he had a good offseason, Palmer back is huge. Really, if you looked at the team they certainly had the ability to be this good, of course I didn't expect the Steelers or Ravens to be this bad which has really helped the Bengals.

killxswitch
12-10-2009, 09:11 AM
Colts clinch the #1 seed with a win over the Broncos. I'm just not sure that's a good thing.

Damix
12-10-2009, 09:21 AM
Eagles/Giants huge Sunday night showdown.

Agreed, this has to be the most interesting match up, winner controls that wild card spot, and if Dallas loses, winner controls division.

Splat
12-10-2009, 09:39 AM
Nineteen years later, another Chiefs blackout seems inevitable (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/10/nineteen-years-later-another-chiefs-blackout-seems-inevitable/)

619
12-10-2009, 10:11 AM
Nineteen years later, another Chiefs blackout seems inevitable (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/10/nineteen-years-later-another-chiefs-blackout-seems-inevitable/)

Even if the Chiefs find a way to sell the rest of the unsold tickets, Covitz points out that the string of 155 straight sellouts will be ending soon.

Next weekend, the Browns come to town.


Not looking good lol.

Hines
12-10-2009, 10:34 AM
What the heck is up with the Steelers?

Your guess is as good as mine.

umphrey
12-10-2009, 10:52 AM
I'm a Cleveland fan today. Hopefully they find a way to beat Pittsburgh so they are a broken team when they play GB in a few weeks.

Look at the injuries for the Packers DL this week
The Packers are facing a possible serious shortage of defensive linemen this week because of injuries to Ryan Pickett (hamstring), B.J. Raji (ankle), Cullen Jenkins (hamstring) and Johnny Jolly (knee).
That's our 4 starting lineman. In our 3-4 they all get consistent playing time through rotation and the 4 man fronts we use quite often.

If they were all out we would be left with 2 defensive lineman, Jarius Wynn a 6th round rookie DE and Montgomery a guy whose been a 4-3 DE backup. Also no nose tackle whatsoever.

DT Justin Harrell and DE/LB Aaron Kampman are on IR. So we could be down to our 7th and 8th linemen and presumably a practice squad player.

Splat
12-10-2009, 11:49 AM
Not looking good lol.

Now I know what it feels like to be a Raiders fan. :(

HawkeyeFan
12-10-2009, 11:50 AM
Nineteen years later, another Chiefs blackout seems inevitable (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/10/nineteen-years-later-another-chiefs-blackout-seems-inevitable/)
A team can buy/donate up to 17,000 tickets. The Rams did that for 3 thousand tickets a couple weeks ago ( against the Saints I believe ). So unless the Chiefs are to poor, they can do this to keep a blackout from keeping away.

Splat
12-10-2009, 11:55 AM
A team can buy/donate up to 17,000 tickets. The Rams did that for 3 thousand tickets a couple weeks ago ( against the Saints I believe ). So unless the Chiefs are to poor, they can do this to keep a blackout from keeping away.

I don't think poor is the right word I would say cheap.

HawkeyeFan
12-10-2009, 11:56 AM
I don't think poor is the right word I would say cheap.
Ah, well you never know. The Rams did it, and we were supposed to be "cheap" and are in the middle of selling the Franchise.

The Unseen
12-10-2009, 12:12 PM
Now I know what it feels like to be a Raiders fan. :(

You mean you know what it feels like to be a Jaguars fan.

HawkeyeFan
12-10-2009, 12:14 PM
You mean you know what it feels like to be a Jaguars fan.
How and the hell are you guys not selling tickets? Your in the playoff hunt and it's continually empty for the most part.

FloridaSkinzFan
12-10-2009, 12:15 PM
I'm very neutral on the Redskins right now. If they lose to the Raiders, I'll be kind of embarrased that the freakin raiders beat us, and at the same time wouldn't mind so we can stay top 5.

Splat
12-10-2009, 12:18 PM
I'm very neutral on the Redskins right now. If they lose to the Raiders, I'll be kind of embarrased that the freakin raiders beat us, and at the same time wouldn't mind so we can stay top 5.

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The Unseen
12-10-2009, 12:18 PM
How and the hell are you guys not selling tickets? Your in the playoff hunt and it's continually empty for the most part.

Bad economy and a small fan base.

HawkeyeFan
12-10-2009, 12:19 PM
Bad economy and a small fan base.
Bad Economy + Small Fan Base = the perfect equation for LA to get a team.

That really sucks to, I love the Jaguars stadium.

Brodeur
12-10-2009, 04:18 PM
How many Sunday night games does this make for Philly this year? 42?

Giantsfan1080
12-10-2009, 04:26 PM
How many Sunday night games does this make for Philly this year? 42?

Isn't the maximum number of primetime games 6?

21ST
12-10-2009, 04:36 PM
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The problem is the redskins dont need to win any games and think they have something to build on next year, we need to lose so they blow up the team next year because we dont need zorn or campbell sticking around after this year

Hines
12-10-2009, 06:58 PM
Do or die time, Steelers. How are you going to react with your season on the line?

CC.SD
12-10-2009, 07:00 PM
Do or die time, Steelers. How are you going to react with your season on the line?

Prepare for Brady Quinn domination!!! :D

thebow305
12-10-2009, 08:08 PM
What a ***** block by Quinn on that Cribbs direct snap. If would've just made a semi-decent block on William G*y, Cribbs would've scored!

21ST
12-10-2009, 08:17 PM
does mike furrey lay defense too?

Pat Sims 90
12-10-2009, 08:19 PM
I am still waiting for this "Hell" to be unleashed on other teams that Mike Tomlin Promished

terribletowel39
12-10-2009, 08:19 PM
The Steelers do not deserve to win this game. This is so sad.

Pat Sims 90
12-10-2009, 08:21 PM
does mike furrey lay defense too?

He played S in College and like his 1st year in NFL before he switched to WR Cleveland is using him at S becuase they have had so many injurys on Def this year

Pat Sims 90
12-10-2009, 08:22 PM
If Pittsburgh losses this game they should fire Bruce Aries and Dick LeBeau right after the game. I think the 0-16 Lions could beat the Browns this year

terribletowel39
12-10-2009, 08:23 PM
If Pittsburgh losses this game they should fire Bruce Aries and Dick LeBeau right after the game. I think the 0-16 Lions could beat the Browns this year

Unsmartest post ever. Bruce Arians, yes. Dick LeBeau?? You are insane. And all the Steelers fans on this site have wanted Arians head for about a year and half.

terribletowel39
12-10-2009, 08:25 PM
Ridiculous. Jesus.

Pat Sims 90
12-10-2009, 08:27 PM
Wow i thought the Bengal OL was horriable Last year Some of there Lineman from last year would look like Pro Bowlers on Steelers OL tonight

Brodeur
12-10-2009, 08:28 PM
If Pittsburgh losses this game they should fire Bruce Aries and Dick LeBeau right after the game. I think the 0-16 Lions could beat the Browns this year

Did you seriously suggest firing Dick LeBeau?

tjsunstein
12-10-2009, 08:32 PM
I mean all you can do is laugh at the Steelers, if you aren't a fan. It's amazing how much of a difference Polamalu makes to this team.

Pat Sims 90
12-10-2009, 08:33 PM
Did you seriously suggest firing Dick LeBeau?

Yes i know Losing Polamalu hurts but going for one the best Def in leauge to worst they still have talent on this Def without Polamalu Harrison Woodly Taylor are a couple to name. Def does not look prepared every week and alot goes back on the coaches for not haveing them prepared every week

wicket
12-10-2009, 08:33 PM
Josh Cribbs > Steelers

LonghornsLegend
12-10-2009, 08:33 PM
How many Sunday night games does this make for Philly this year? 42?

Seems like the Ravens have had more. I'd be interested in knowing who has had the most primetime games at this point though.

wicket
12-10-2009, 08:36 PM
ow yeah and quinn should become a specialized qb sneaker

Pat Sims 90
12-10-2009, 08:38 PM
Epic Fail by Steelers DEF
First Rushing TD for Browns from a RB all year

Brodeur
12-10-2009, 08:38 PM
This is just awesome.

Pat Sims 90
12-10-2009, 08:40 PM
If Cleveland wins tonight it will be like winning the SuperBowl in Cleveland tonight

wicket
12-10-2009, 08:42 PM
If Cleveland wins tonight it will be like winning the SuperBowl in Cleveland tonight

that brady quinn ball baby

wonderbredd24
12-10-2009, 08:43 PM
Rob Ryan is downright brilliant

The Steelers didn't bother to show up in the 1st half. They look like the 1-11 team just playing out the string. The Browns look like they are fighting for a playoff spot

LonghornsLegend
12-10-2009, 08:43 PM
LOL wtf is going on Pitt? This is just getting laughable at this point. At least their losing their way to Joe Haden at this point.

wonderbredd24
12-10-2009, 08:48 PM
Steelers get a field goal thanks in large part due to a horrible roughing the passer call

Pat Sims 90
12-10-2009, 08:50 PM
Steelers get a field goal thanks in large part due to a horrible roughing the passer call

Cleveland still has all the swagger still. I guess Pittsburgh wants the draft pick this year not the playoffs

Brodeur
12-10-2009, 08:52 PM
One step closer to Suh for the Lions!

PalmerToCJ
12-10-2009, 08:54 PM
Really Pittsburgh?

JT Jag
12-10-2009, 08:59 PM
Go Browns! Solidify our Wild Card spot!

The Unseen
12-10-2009, 09:02 PM
Go Browns! Solidify our Wild Card spot!

^^^^^^^^^^this

Pat Sims 90
12-10-2009, 09:02 PM
Go Browns! Solidify our Wild Card spot!

Even if the Steelers win tonight i cant see them Beating Green Bay or Baltimore or Miami they have looked horriable tonight aginst worst team in NFL

Malaka
12-10-2009, 09:11 PM
Even if the Steelers win tonight i cant see them Beating Green Bay or Baltimore or Miami they have looked horriable tonight aginst worst team in NFL

^^^^^^ Oakland... Kansas City and now the Browns? It really goes to show how important not only Troy Polamalu is to this defense but Aaron Smith as well.

wonderbredd24
12-10-2009, 09:13 PM
Alex Mack is consistently beating Casey Hampton 1 on 1... dude's a beast

Pat Sims 90
12-10-2009, 09:14 PM
^^^^^^ Oakland... Kansas City and now the Browns? It really goes to show how important not only Troy Polamalu is to this defense but Aaron Smith as well.

Yea the Browns are down to 3rd Stringers on Def Really they have Mike Furrey at S tonight and are out playing the Steelers on Def Now that is sad

Pat Sims 90
12-10-2009, 09:19 PM
LOL Now the Steelers OFF looks like the Browns has all year

TitanHope
12-10-2009, 09:20 PM
How much of this can we put on the HC? We haven't seen Tomlin have to lead his team through adversity, and now that they're having a tough time, they're losing 13-3 to one of the worst teams in the league after losing to KC and Oakland.

Unleashing Hell in December is right...Hell for Pittsburgh fans.

Pat Sims 90
12-10-2009, 09:21 PM
How much of this can we put on the HC? We haven't seen Tomlin have to lead his team through adversity, and now that they're having a tough time, they're losing 13-3 to one of the worst teams in the league after losing to KC and Oakland.

Unleashing Hell in December is right...Hell for Pittsburgh fans.

Alot because Pittsburgh does not look ready at all every week now someone needs to be fired after this game if they lose

Hines
12-10-2009, 09:21 PM
Dear Pittsburgh Steelers,

Whenever you want to show up and play football, please do so.

Kthxbai,

HinesWardJr

tjsunstein
12-10-2009, 09:29 PM
I like how this is going. Can't wait to see how Green Bay does against them next week in Heinz.

Pat Sims 90
12-10-2009, 09:30 PM
Sack Counter 7

CC.SD
12-10-2009, 09:35 PM
O. M. G. wth Pittsburgh.

another stalled drive.

Pat Sims 90
12-10-2009, 09:47 PM
This is like watching the Bengals play in the 90's

Hines
12-10-2009, 09:50 PM
I kind've stopped watching the game.

Pat Sims 90
12-10-2009, 09:53 PM
Cribbs is going to get 100 rushing yards this game

CC.SD
12-10-2009, 09:55 PM
he's a beast.

Xonraider
12-10-2009, 10:01 PM
watch rob ryans prevent defense prevent the browns from winning

Michigan
12-10-2009, 10:12 PM
wow.........

Jvig43
12-10-2009, 10:14 PM
Idk why everyone is freaking about the pats when were still winning our division and the defending champs have just lost to KC, Oakland, and, wait for it...... The browns. Way to raise hell Tomlin.

Hines
12-10-2009, 10:15 PM
LOL I am laughing.

With the first pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, the Pittsburgh Steelers select.....

Pat Sims 90
12-10-2009, 10:17 PM
Upset of the year????????

stephenson86
12-10-2009, 10:18 PM
that was.....fantastic

aNYtitan
12-10-2009, 10:18 PM
I think losing to the Browns should immediately disqualify you from the playoffs. Big upset, or biggest upset?

PalmerToCJ
12-10-2009, 10:18 PM
This is mind blowing.

Jvig43
12-10-2009, 10:19 PM
Upset of the year????????

for like three weeks running. The fing chiefs beat the steelers, and theyve gotten blown out almost every game this year.

TitanHope
12-10-2009, 10:20 PM
Good for the Browns.

LOL at the Steelers. Way to raise hell, Tomlin!!!

NOLAFan
12-10-2009, 10:20 PM
wow....just wow.

Kudos Browns

diabsoule
12-10-2009, 10:20 PM
I'm going to go ahead and say it. This abysmal showing by the Steelers starts with coaching on down. I had overrated Mike Tomlin as a head coach and wonder if the Rooney's are kicking themselves for not hiring Ken Whisenhunt.

Ravens1991
12-10-2009, 10:21 PM
What does Pittsburgh and COllege football have in common??????

LonghornsLegend
12-10-2009, 10:22 PM
I'm going to go ahead and say it. This abysmal showing by the Steelers starts with coaching on down. I had overrated Mike Tomlin as a head coach and wonder if the Rooney's are kicking themselves for not hiring Ken Whisenhunt.

Ehhh, it's WAY too early to say that.


Kicking themselves? Tomlin has a ring, what does Whisenhunt have?

Hines
12-10-2009, 10:23 PM
This game made me appreciate the Pirates a whole lot more since the Pirates at least play with heart.

kalbears13
12-10-2009, 10:23 PM
I'm so happy I could cry.

aNYtitan
12-10-2009, 10:26 PM
I'm so happy I could cry.

This was as close to a Super Bowl victory as the Browns will get huh?

Chucky
12-10-2009, 10:26 PM
This win brings the bucs that much close to SUH!!!

YAY

TitanHope
12-10-2009, 10:26 PM
I'm going to go ahead and say it. This abysmal showing by the Steelers starts with coaching on down. I had overrated Mike Tomlin as a head coach and wonder if the Rooney's are kicking themselves for not hiring Ken Whisenhunt.

I really, really wished I had voiced my thoughts on Tomlin being over-rated before. He was given control of one of the best teams in the league with one of the best front offices as well. Not to mention, a future Hall of Fame DC to help him. He's never faced adversity and had to overcome much in his tenure, and while kudos to him for keeping his team straight, his team is now crumbling in the face of adversity.

I'm not saying he's a bad HC. The man's won a SB after all. But like you said, appears to be massively over-rated and arguably the most disappointing team this season after winning the Super Bowl.

kalbears13
12-10-2009, 10:29 PM
This was as close to a Super Bowl victory as the Browns will get huh?

Considering the Browns haven't beat the Steelers since 2003 and the Browns had only beat the Steelers 3 times since 1993... it's no Super Bowl, but it's definitely one of the best Cleveland Browns moment in a LONG time. If this was a Super Bowl victory, I would have cried.

Jughead10
12-10-2009, 10:31 PM
This win brings the bucs that much close to SUH!!!

YAY

Maybe not. You are playing a team QBed by Kellen Clemens this weekend.

diabsoule
12-10-2009, 10:31 PM
Ehhh, it's WAY too early to say that.


Kicking themselves? Tomlin has a ring, what does Whisenhunt have?

I knew someone was going to chime in with that. Do you not think Whisenhunt wouldn't have won the SB? Whisenhunt, Grimm, and Dick LeBeau on the same coaching staff? Yeah... Whiz has done a great job in AZ, no one can deny that, and if he would have stayed in Pitt, where their offense was banging when he was their OC, he could have picked up where Cowher left off.

Brodeur
12-10-2009, 10:31 PM
This win brings the bucs that much close to SUH!!!

YAY

Suh belongs to the Lions.

Jughead10
12-10-2009, 10:32 PM
I really, really wished I had voiced my thoughts on Tomlin being over-rated before. He was given control of one of the best teams in the league with one of the best front offices as well. Not to mention, a future Hall of Fame DC to help him. He's never faced adversity and had to overcome much in his tenure, and while kudos to him for keeping his team straight, his team is now crumbling in the face of adversity.

I'm not saying he's a bad HC. The man's won a SB after all. But like you said, appears to be massively over-rated and arguably the most disappointing team this season after winning the Super Bowl.

I always thought he was overrated. A glorified cheerleader. The smartest thing he ever did was not implement his defense and let LeBeau continue to run the attacking 3-4.

Damix
12-10-2009, 10:33 PM
Well that was a sweet game. Go browns!

TitanHope
12-10-2009, 10:35 PM
I knew someone was going to chime in with that. Do you not think Whisenhunt wouldn't have won the SB? Whisenhunt, Grimm, and Dick LeBeau on the same coaching staff? Yeah... Whiz has done a great job in AZ, no one can deny that, and if he would have stayed in Pitt, where their offense was banging when he was their OC, he could have picked up where Cowher left off.

I'd argue that the job Whiz has done in Arizona is more impressive than what Tomlin has done in Pittsburgh.

diabsoule
12-10-2009, 10:35 PM
I always thought he was overrated. A glorified cheerleader. The smartest thing he ever did was not implement his defense and let LeBeau continue to run the attacking 3-4.

You also saw how much the Steelers D works when Polamalu is in. They haven't looked like the great defense they were last year without him.

diabsoule
12-10-2009, 10:36 PM
I'd argue that the job Whiz has done in Arizona is more impressive than what Tomlin has done in Pittsburgh.

I wouldn't think anyone could argue that fact. What Whiz has done in Arizona IS more impressive than what Tomlin has done in Pittsburgh.

Jvig43
12-10-2009, 10:38 PM
I wouldn't think anyone could argue that fact. What Whiz has done in Arizona IS more impressive than what Tomlin has done in Pittsburgh.

The win over Minnesota was very impressive. I'm impressed the losers of the super bowl are playing at such a high level.

Shiver
12-10-2009, 10:39 PM
Maybe not. You are playing a team QBed by Kellen Clemens this weekend.


Hey, according to Merrill Hoge he was heads and shoulders better than Vince Young, Matt Leinart and Jay Cutler.

Jughead10
12-10-2009, 10:41 PM
Hey, according to Merrill Hoge he was heads and shoulders better than Vince Young, Matt Leinart and Jay Cutler.

He's not even better than Mark Sanchez. So what does that say? Haha.

diabsoule
12-10-2009, 10:42 PM
He's not even better than Mark Sanchez. So what does that say? Haha.

Who really is better than the Sanchise? Really...

TitanHope
12-10-2009, 10:42 PM
I love Josh Cribbs. Dude is a class act all the way, and a helluva player!

Cleveland, PAY THE MAN!!! /Prime

LonghornsLegend
12-10-2009, 10:43 PM
I knew someone was going to chime in with that. Do you not think Whisenhunt wouldn't have won the SB? Whisenhunt, Grimm, and Dick LeBeau on the same coaching staff? Yeah... Whiz has done a great job in AZ, no one can deny that, and if he would have stayed in Pitt, where their offense was banging when he was their OC, he could have picked up where Cowher left off.

Maybe, but that's playing the "what if" game. We don't know how that would have panned out at all other then to speculate. Still Tomlin won a Super Bowl and Whisenhunt hasn't yet, those are the facts. I think Whis is a great coach, but I'm just going by facts, and it's not like the Cardinals had a talent depleted roster when he took over either let's not confuse him taking over the Cards for the Browns.

diabsoule
12-10-2009, 10:47 PM
Maybe, but that's playing the "what if" game. We don't know how that would have panned out at all other then to speculate. Still Tomlin won a Super Bowl and Whisenhunt hasn't yet, those are the facts. I think Whis is a great coach, but I'm just going by facts, and it's not like the Cardinals had a talent depleted roster when he took over either let's not confuse him taking over the Cards for the Browns.

Ok. You can use the same logic on Tomlin. Dick LeBeau was essential in them winning the SB. The worst hire was getting Bruce Arians as OC. It went against everything Pittsburgh has stood for: smashmouth offense and smashmouth defense. They are now a team that likes to air it out and that has started to bite them in the butt this season, especially when they failed to address their below average offensive line.

And yeah, it is a "what if", and there are plenty of those to have fun with, and no one will really know how much of that SB win had to do with Tomlin's coaching but back-to-back losses to the Raiders and Browns sure as hell doesn't say much for him.

TitanHope
12-10-2009, 10:49 PM
Maybe, but that's playing the "what if" game. We don't know how that would have panned out at all other then to speculate. Still Tomlin won a Super Bowl and Whisenhunt hasn't yet, those are the facts. I think Whis is a great coach, but I'm just going by facts, and it's not like the Cardinals had a talent depleted roster when he took over either let's not confuse him taking over the Cards for the Browns.

The Cards were one of the most futile organizations in the NFL before Whiz got there, and he took them to the Super Bowl. They had talent, but they needed a great coach to put it all together. The Steelers had it all put together before Tomlin got there, and all he had to do was keep the driver's seat warm and they'd make the Playoffs. He's got a ring in Pitt though, so you're right that he's accomplished more. We just think taking the Cards to the SB was harder to do than winning the SB with the Steelers.

Jughead10
12-10-2009, 10:50 PM
Ok. You can use the same logic on Tomlin. Dick LeBeau was essential in them winning the SB. The worst hire was getting Bruce Arians as OC. It went against everything Pittsburgh has stood for: smashmouth offense and smashmouth defense. They are now a team that likes to air it out and that has started to bite them in the butt this season, especially when they failed to address their below average offensive line.

And yeah, it is a "what if", and there are plenty of those to have fun with, and no one will really know how much of that SB win had to do with Tomlin's coaching but back-to-back losses to the Raiders and Browns sure as hell doesn't say much for him.

Arians has to go. I didn't watch the game but listened on radio, but what I did see had very DL on the field for the Browns. They were kind of playing that amoeba defense with on down lineman and a bunch of LBers playing off the line. The Browns were basically giving them 4-5 yards and the Steelers weren't taking it.

CC.SD
12-10-2009, 10:50 PM
lol well Whisenhunt came prett-ay close, to say that's the difference between Tomlin and Whisenhunt is literally a one game decision.

Pittsburgh, idk man

Ravens1991
12-10-2009, 10:53 PM
The madden curse is alive and well. there is no way you can persuade me it doesnt exist now

diabsoule
12-10-2009, 10:54 PM
The Cards were one of the most futile organizations in the NFL before Whiz got there, and he took them to the Super Bowl. They had talent, but they needed a great coach to put it all together. The Steelers had it all put together before Tomlin got there, and all he had to do was keep the driver's seat warm and they'd make the Playoffs. He's got a ring in Pitt though, so you're right that he's accomplished more. We just think taking the Cards to the SB was harder to do than winning the SB with the Steelers.

Exactly my point except better explained here by TitanHope. I would reiterate one of my main points. Like TH said, all Tomlin did was keep the seat warm, but imagine the Steelers if they would have kept Whiz and Grimm, two guys that really made that offense tick. You can see the effect the loss of Grimm has had.

Jvig43
12-10-2009, 10:54 PM
Ok. You can use the same logic on Tomlin. Dick LeBeau was essential in them winning the SB. The worst hire was getting Bruce Arians as OC. It went against everything Pittsburgh has stood for: smashmouth offense and smashmouth defense. They are now a team that likes to air it out and that has started to bite them in the butt this season, especially when they failed to address their below average offensive line.

And yeah, it is a "what if", and there are plenty of those to have fun with, and no one will really know how much of that SB win had to do with Tomlin's coaching but back-to-back losses to the Raiders and Browns sure as hell doesn't say much for him.

You also missed the Chiefs........

LonghornsLegend
12-10-2009, 10:55 PM
We just think taking the Cards to the SB was harder to do than winning the SB with the Steelers.

I do too, but I also think that it's just alot easier then assuming that Whisenhunt would of won a SB with Pitt, there's alot more to it then that, and frankly we don't know since it didn't work out that way.

Jvig43
12-10-2009, 10:56 PM
The madden curse is alive and well. there is no way you can persuade me it doesnt exist now

Arizona is most likely going to the playoffs...... unless you were being sarcastic, than my bad.

Hines
12-10-2009, 10:57 PM
Exactly my point except better explained here by TitanHope. I would reiterate one of my main points. Like TH said, all Tomlin did was keep the seat warm, but imagine the Steelers if they would have kept Whiz and Grimm, two guys that really made that offense tick. You can see the effect the loss of Grimm has had.

All the Cowboys do was keep the seat warm for Wade Phillips and he hasn't done anything and I would argue they have a lot more talent than most of the teams in the NFL.

Tomlin is a good coach, but he needs to make changes in the coaching staff ASAP. Fire the OC and ST coach and let them walk home.

Raiderz4Life
12-10-2009, 11:08 PM
I love Kaluka Maiva he was so underrated coming out IMO

TitanHope
12-10-2009, 11:09 PM
All the Cowboys do was keep the seat warm for Wade Phillips and he hasn't done anything and I would argue they have a lot more talent than most of the teams in the NFL.

Tomlin is a good coach, but he needs to make changes in the coaching staff ASAP. Fire the OC and ST coach and let them walk home.

He is a good coach. He also had one of the best assistants in the NFL underneath him, one of the best organizations above him, and no locker room cancers/Jerry Jones to distract him. The NFC East is also a much tougher division. Not trying to make it "Lets criticize Tomlin day," but it's hard not to after witnessing his team quit while fighting for the Playoffs.

Hines
12-10-2009, 11:13 PM
Arians is a lot of the problem too. He is handcuffing our offense. We will never reach our full potential as an offense under Arians. Why Tomlin is keeping him around is beyond me. I don't care if Ben has a good relationship with him. He is ruining his development and the offenses development.

The Browns knew what play was coming because it is so predictable.

PoopSandwich
12-10-2009, 11:14 PM
hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

best game ive ever been to... hey steelers, enjoy watching the playoffs with us in january.

Hines
12-10-2009, 11:17 PM
hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

best game ive ever been to... hey steelers, enjoy watching the playoffs with us in january.

Trust me, we will enjoy it.

Hines
12-10-2009, 11:21 PM
He is a good coach. He also had one of the best assistants in the NFL underneath him, one of the best organizations above him, and no locker room cancers/Jerry Jones to distract him. The NFC East is also a much tougher division. Not trying to make it "Lets criticize Tomlin day," but it's hard not to after witnessing his team quit while fighting for the Playoffs.

I'd argue that the Steelers' front office is better than the Cowboys. Plus, the Steelers didn't have distractions outside this past offseason.

But the point I am trying to make is that the Cowboys have either blown it or totally sucked. With their talent, they should be winning the Super Bowl every year. They have three very good running backs that should be starters on other teams. They have a very good offensive line. They have a very good quarterback. They quite possibly have the best tight end in the game. Their recievers aren't bad, but they are no slouches either.

Their defensive front seven is one of the best in football and they have a very young and talented secondary.

If they had a coach that has a background of winning or can take them to the next level, they'd be unstopable, but they don't.

Jughead10
12-10-2009, 11:27 PM
Their defensive front seven is one of the best in football and they have a very young and talented secondary.

I think you overrate their front seven a bit, but yes, Wade Phillips holds them back.

TitanHope
12-10-2009, 11:31 PM
I'd argue that the Steelers' front office is better than the Cowboys. Plus, the Steelers didn't have distractions outside this past offseason.

But the point I am trying to make is that the Cowboys have either blown it or totally sucked. With their talent, they should be winning the Super Bowl every year. They have three very good running backs that should be starters on other teams. They have a very good offensive line. They have a very good quarterback. They quite possibly have the best tight end in the game. Their recievers aren't bad, but they are no slouches either.

Their defensive front seven is one of the best in football and they have a very young and talented secondary.

If they had a coach that has a background of winning or can take them to the next level, they'd be unstopable, but they don't.

I agree. Phillips hasn't been impressive at all really. He was my pick for biggest HC/FO disappointment in that thread we had a while back. Tomlin is definitely a good coach. I think you have to be in order to win a SB, regardless of the situation.

Jughead10
12-10-2009, 11:32 PM
I agree. Phillips hasn't been impressive at all really. He was my pick for biggest HC/FO disappointment in that thread we had a while back. Tomlin is definitely a good coach. I think you have to be in order to win a SB, regardless of the situation.

Switzer? Callahan got to one. Coaches have ridden coat tails before.

Hines
12-10-2009, 11:41 PM
I agree. Phillips hasn't been impressive at all really. He was my pick for biggest HC/FO disappointment in that thread we had a while back. Tomlin is definitely a good coach. I think you have to be in order to win a SB, regardless of the situation.

In my personal view, Tomlin has eased up and gotten soft on the team. When he first got here, he was a hardass and was really hard on the team. Although it tired out the players and some key guys ended up getting hurt, I personally feel like it was good for the team. Lately it seems like he is just letting loose and letting everyone else take control and just manage stuff instead of ordering.

I think it'll change though. I think he fires Arians and the ST coach. I think he might let key vets go too. I'd hate to lose him, but Farrior might have to go. Last year he was great. This year, shown sides of aging.

sweetness34
12-11-2009, 12:10 AM
It's the Madden curse.

The ******* Browns? Really Pittsburgh? We suck monkey balls and handled them with ease.

Shiver
12-11-2009, 12:11 AM
I think we need to avoid overreaction here. Debating Tomlin's performance is fine, but we all know that the O-Line is and has been a problem for the Steelers and that the defense is not the same without Aaron Smith and Troy Polamalu.

Hines
12-11-2009, 12:12 AM
The Madden curse would be a legit arguement if Fitz wasn't having an awesome season.

diabsoule
12-11-2009, 12:14 AM
In my personal view, Tomlin has eased up and gotten soft on the team. When he first got here, he was a hardass and was really hard on the team. Although it tired out the players and some key guys ended up getting hurt, I personally feel like it was good for the team. Lately it seems like he is just letting loose and letting everyone else take control and just manage stuff instead of ordering.

I think it'll change though. I think he fires Arians and the ST coach. I think he might let key vets go too. I'd hate to lose him, but Farrior might have to go. Last year he was great. This year, shown sides of aging.

That's the Steeler way of doing things. They let go of Chad Brown, Kevin Green, Joey Porter, and Larry Foote when they showed signs of aging. I think the two biggest problems are these: Bruce Arians as OC and not drafting the Steelers way. What was the biggest problems last year? Offensive line. What did they do? Draft Rashard Mendenhall and Limas Sweed and passed on addressing the OL. This past year? They drafted Ziggy Hood in the first round, which admittedly did solve a position of need, but could have been put off til later.

I don't know what it's going to take to get the Steelers back on the right path but they will miss the playoffs this year and maybe that will serve as a wake up call for the whole team.

diabsoule
12-11-2009, 12:15 AM
It's the Madden curse.

The ******* Browns? Really Pittsburgh? We suck monkey balls and handled them with ease.

We? Aren't you a Bears fan?

Hines
12-11-2009, 12:17 AM
That's the Steeler way of doing things. They let go of Chad Brown, Kevin Green, Joey Porter, and Larry Foote when they showed signs of aging. I think the two biggest problems are these: Bruce Arians as OC and not drafting the Steelers way. What was the biggest problems last year? Offensive line. What did they do? Draft Rashard Mendenhall and Limas Sweed and passed on addressing the OL. This past year? They drafted Ziggy Hood in the first round, which admittedly did solve a position of need, but could have been put off til later.

I don't know what it's going to take to get the Steelers back on the right path but they will miss the playoffs this year and maybe that will serve as a wake up call for the whole team.

Personally, we needed a RB at that time as well to split carries with Mendenhall. I wasn't high on Duane Brown who was the top OL left. I still think that if Mendenhall wasn't there, Mike Jenkins would be a Steeler.

They didn't release Foote as a sign of age. They cut him because of the fact they thought Timmons was ready for a full time starting role on the defense. They also didn't want to pay a hefty amount of money for a backup. While Timmons will someday be a top LB in the league, it looks like a bad move right now.


I do agree that Arians should be fired this offseason and we should look at a OC that has a track record of developing quarterbacks and is creative in their game plans and play calling. Charlie Weis maybe. Hell, Ken Anderson wouldn't be a bad guy if we stay in house. If Kubiak get's canned, I wouldn't mind him in Pittsburgh either.

sweetness34
12-11-2009, 12:22 AM
We? Aren't you a Bears fan?

Um yes and we handled the Browns with ease, just as my post said.

Final score was 30-6.

diabsoule
12-11-2009, 12:23 AM
Personally, we needed a RB at that time as well to split carries with Mendenhall. I wasn't high on Duane Brown who was the top OL left. I still think that if Mendenhall wasn't there, Mike Jenkins would be a Steeler.

They didn't release Foote as a sign of age. They cut him because of the fact they thought Timmons was ready for a full time starting role on the defense. They also didn't want to pay a hefty amount of money for a backup. While Timmons will someday be a top LB in the league, it looks like a bad move right now.


I do agree that Arians should be fired this offseason and we should look at a OC that has a track record of developing quarterbacks and is creative in their game plans and play calling. Charlie Weis maybe. Hell, Ken Anderson wouldn't be a bad guy if we stay in house. If Kubiak get's canned, I wouldn't mind him in Pittsburgh either.

Duane Brown wouldn't have been a bad consolation prize. Hell, he could have been great at RT.

Lawrence Timmons wasn't ready, period. Larry Foote played very well last year and you don't cut a guy that did what he did. That was a bad move and it has bit them in the ass.

But yes, Arians does have to go, and personally, I don't now who I'd go after if I were the Steelers. I'm not sold on Ken Anderson and I doubt Charlie Weis would go to the Steel City because they wouldn't pay him like he would want to be paid.

sweetness34
12-11-2009, 12:23 AM
The Madden curse would be a legit arguement if Fitz wasn't having an awesome season.

It got Troy though. One out of two ain't bad.

Hines
12-11-2009, 12:30 AM
Duane Brown wouldn't have been a bad consolation prize. Hell, he could have been great at RT.

Lawrence Timmons wasn't ready, period. Larry Foote played very well last year and you don't cut a guy that did what he did. That was a bad move and it has bit them in the ass.

But yes, Arians does have to go, and personally, I don't now who I'd go after if I were the Steelers. I'm not sold on Ken Anderson and I doubt Charlie Weis would go to the Steel City because they wouldn't pay him like he would want to be paid.

I would rather have Mendenhall than Brown, though. Just my personal opinion. Hopefully Tony Hills is ready to make that step up if Willie Colon happens to leave.

I know he wasn't ready. I like him, but against the run, he isn't that good. He needs to get stronger. Extremely explosive, athletic, and one of our best pass rushers(if not the best), but poor in the run game right now. I would start Keyaron Fox at that spot and let Timmons groom into Farrior's role. McClain or Spikes would be a good fit for our team.

I don't care who are OC is, I think anyone could be better than Arians. Is Chan Gailey still available? I wouldn't mind him one bit.

LonghornsLegend
12-11-2009, 09:47 AM
It got Troy though. One out of two ain't bad.

We have been through this a million times. Injuries strike so many players throughout the year, if you pick 2 people on any cover what are your chances that both make it through 16 games without getting hurt? This is the NFL, the chances of picking a guy who won't get hurt at all is extremely slim.

MetSox17
12-11-2009, 09:52 AM
Well, the chances of them getting hurt are pretty legit, but not many players have season ending injuries. I don't believe in curses, but it's a really funny coincidence.

Splat
12-11-2009, 10:29 AM
League wants Raiders, Niners to share a stadium (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/11/league-wants-raiders-niners-to-share-a-stadium/)

RealityCheck
12-11-2009, 10:53 AM
League wants Raiders, Niners to share a stadium (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/11/league-wants-raiders-niners-to-share-a-stadium/)
That would work IMO.

I wonder if Big Ben enjoyed the 8 portions of fried grass he had yesternight.

Brent
12-11-2009, 11:25 AM
League wants Raiders, Niners to share a stadium (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/11/league-wants-raiders-niners-to-share-a-stadium/)
I dont think Al Davis would be down for that. The new Niners stadium is in Santa Clara because their headquarters are there, but that would be closer to Oakland than San Francisco... craziness.

P-L
12-11-2009, 12:14 PM
When mocking the Steelers don't forget that the Lions had the ball in the red zone late in the game with a chance to send the game into overtime and played the whole game without Matthew Stafford or Calvin Johnson.

Splat
12-11-2009, 05:37 PM
Kerry Rhodes tweets about leaving New York (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/11/kerry-rhodes-tweets-about-leaving-new-york-1/)

CC.SD
12-11-2009, 06:09 PM
Martellus Bennett is out. Good that only leaves Jason Witten to exploit the Chargers' helplessness against TEs.

MetSox17
12-12-2009, 02:50 PM
Kerry Rhodes can come to Dallas. Outside of Sensebaugh who is above average, we have a bunch of trash back there.

Also, random story to keep the thread going. Patriots mascot guy is arrested for prostitution, lol.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/10512288/Patriots-mascot-arrested-in-sex-sting

diabsoule
12-12-2009, 02:54 PM
I'll trade a 2nd rounder for Kerry Rhodes. Him and Darren Sharper can wreak as much as havoc as they'd like for the Saints secondary.

Bengalsrocket
12-12-2009, 03:57 PM
I'll trade a 2nd rounder for Kerry Rhodes. Him and Darren Sharper can wreak as much as havoc as they'd like for the Saints secondary.

Don't know why the Jets would give up Rhodes for what will certainly end up being a late 2nd rounder

General Zod
12-13-2009, 10:35 AM
Booo, Percy Harvin is inactive today. :-(

ATLDirtyBirds
12-13-2009, 10:59 AM
No Ryan or Turner. The Falcons game is going to get very ugly, very fast.

RealityCheck
12-13-2009, 11:14 AM
This is probably the best week of the season. Broncos vs. Colts, Vikes vs. Bengals, Cowboys vs. Chargers, and my god, Giants vs. Eagles.

SuperMcGee
12-13-2009, 11:19 AM
Bills-Chiefs!

Moorman-Colquitt!

bored of education
12-13-2009, 11:31 AM
Bills-Chiefs!

Moorman-Colquitt!

:o! awesome !

scottyboy
12-13-2009, 11:33 AM
let's geaux giants! <3
I'll be there babyyyyyy

BuckNaked
12-13-2009, 11:48 AM
not having percy is definitely gonna hurt for this week

MetSox17
12-13-2009, 12:04 PM
First play of the game, and Andre shits on Trufant. Pwned.

bernbabybern820
12-13-2009, 12:05 PM
First play of the game, and Freeman throws an INT.

Woody56
12-13-2009, 12:05 PM
David Harris picks off Josh Freeman on play 1

T-RICH49
12-13-2009, 12:06 PM
Buffalo's terrible against the run and we throw three straight times...BRILLIANT

Gay Ork Wang
12-13-2009, 12:07 PM
its gonna be a long day

cvv84
12-13-2009, 12:07 PM
1st Packers offensive play = 62 yard TD run for Ryan Grant

TitleTown088
12-13-2009, 12:08 PM
Only the bears D gives Grant runs like that.

Scotty D
12-13-2009, 12:11 PM
Damn, Ray Rice 52 yard run. He's going shred the Lion's D today.

Gay Ork Wang
12-13-2009, 12:12 PM
Only the bears D gives Grant runs like that.
The bears allow everyone to play like that. and then its cutler's fault

NIN1984
12-13-2009, 12:14 PM
TD Colts, Manning just being Manning.

bearsfan_51
12-13-2009, 12:14 PM
Just give Peyton the MVP already.

JETS5128
12-13-2009, 12:16 PM
Sick fake punt

Monomach
12-13-2009, 12:16 PM
The bears allow everyone to play like that. and then its cutler's fault
Indeed. The media and every football fan who didn't watch the game loves to play this game, e.g.-

"Crappy Guard had 15 yards in penalties on that drive because Jay Cutler sucks. Bears fans always pass the blame for Jay's basic worthlessness!"

Scotty D
12-13-2009, 12:17 PM
Culpepper throws a terrible INT, Trevor Pyrce gets a roughing the passer call to negate it

wicket
12-13-2009, 12:17 PM
Why does NO's outside run blocking suck this much?

Crickett
12-13-2009, 12:17 PM
Kellen Clemens: Very indecisive.

Clemens could have been a good quarterback. Unfortunately, he was drafted by the Jets. And they instilled the fear of actually playing football.

TitleTown088
12-13-2009, 12:19 PM
How does ray Rice have -88 rec yards for my fantasy?

BuckNaked
12-13-2009, 12:19 PM
Nice hit Jasper!

BuckNaked
12-13-2009, 12:19 PM
How does ray Rice have -88 rec yards for my fantasy?

stat trackers ****** up right now, says the same for me

bantx
12-13-2009, 12:21 PM
Dont question it! i have him too

Gay Ork Wang
12-13-2009, 12:22 PM
3 offensive plays for the packers. 14-0
nice

Crickett
12-13-2009, 12:23 PM
I hope you guys are starting the Jets field goal kicker on your fantasy teams.

bearsfan_51
12-13-2009, 12:24 PM
That wasn't a catch.

TitleTown088
12-13-2009, 12:24 PM
Fantasy owners of Greg Jennings should be pissed. That was a TD.

Packers will score anyways.

bearsfan_51
12-13-2009, 12:24 PM
Touchdown Dolphins in what is an underrated game.

JETS5128
12-13-2009, 12:25 PM
Fantasy owners of Greg Jennings should be pissed. That was a TD.

Well **** me raw

SuperMcGee
12-13-2009, 12:25 PM
Schobel!

4th down sack on the one!

Now put in Brohm!

Shiver
12-13-2009, 12:25 PM
Todd Haley is the dumbest coach in the NFL, by a mile.

bearsfan_51
12-13-2009, 12:25 PM
Fantasy owners of Greg Jennings should be pissed. That was a TD.

Packers will score anyways.
No it wasn't, he didn't come down with it.

UKfan
12-13-2009, 12:26 PM
Jamaal Charles had made a gain on 3 straight plays, 4th and 1 and the Chiefs... throw! Cassell sacked, turnover on downs.

Boston
12-13-2009, 12:28 PM
Since when is two feet in bounds with possession not a touchdown?

SuperMcGee
12-13-2009, 12:28 PM
His gains have been minimal. In a situation like that, with a runner like Charles, it's not that easy.

Me thinks Marshawn wants his job back.

bearsfan_51
12-13-2009, 12:29 PM
He didn't come down with possession. I know the Packers are going to blow us out, so I'm not being biased here. He never came down with possession of the ball.

TitleTown088
12-13-2009, 12:30 PM
No it wasn't, he didn't come down with it.
He took three freaking steps in the endzone.

bearsfan_51
12-13-2009, 12:31 PM
Ok whatever. Everyone is wrong and you are right.

Lovie, you're a moron.

senormysterioso
12-13-2009, 12:31 PM
Now put in Brohm!

Trust me...that's the last thing you want

Wally03
12-13-2009, 12:33 PM
I'm truly starting to think we are seeing the end of the "good" Randy Moss we have seen for the most part in New England these last few seasons.

MetSox17
12-13-2009, 12:35 PM
Well, this easily became a blowout. 17-0 Texans. Oh wait, Kubiak is teh coach, no lead is safe.

bearsfan_51
12-13-2009, 12:35 PM
Touchdown T.O.

T-RICH49
12-13-2009, 12:35 PM
begging for Todd Haley to be fired after this season

TitleTown088
12-13-2009, 12:36 PM
Ok whatever. Everyone is wrong and you are right.

Lovie, you're a moron.

Yep, just like you were right about the Packers defense being " made of butter" and Clay Matthews sucking. :)

Woodson INT <3

Boston
12-13-2009, 12:37 PM
Haha, Jay Cutler fail.

cvv84
12-13-2009, 12:37 PM
Cutler with a nice pass to Woodson

bearsfan_51
12-13-2009, 12:37 PM
Yeah...probably shouldn't throw it at Charles Woodson....

Gay Ork Wang
12-13-2009, 12:38 PM
Yeah...probably shouldn't throw it at Charles Woodson....
especially when it is a wrong route

bearsfan_51
12-13-2009, 12:39 PM
Ahman Green is on the Packers again? Are they bringing back Gilbert Brown and Frank Winters too?

tjsunstein
12-13-2009, 12:40 PM
Can someone hook me up with a stream to the Packers-Bears game?

senormysterioso
12-13-2009, 12:40 PM
Ahman Green is on the Packers again? Are they bringing back Gilbert Brown and Frank Winters too?

Winters probably couldn't do much worse than some of the jokers on our o-line

tjsunstein
12-13-2009, 12:41 PM
Ahman Green is on the Packers again? Are they bringing back Gilbert Brown and Frank Winters too?

Green's been with the team for a couple weeks. In that time, he claimed the Packers all time rushing title.

Gay Ork Wang
12-13-2009, 12:42 PM
we are so horrible

DHVF
12-13-2009, 12:42 PM
Brett you idiot

bearsfan_51
12-13-2009, 12:43 PM
I remember Gilbert Brown.

TitleTown088
12-13-2009, 12:45 PM
Brett you idiot
DecemBrett.

cvv84
12-13-2009, 12:45 PM
I remember Gilbert Brown.

But do you remember the Gilbert Burger?

bearsfan_51
12-13-2009, 12:45 PM
Green's been with the team for a couple weeks. In that time, he claimed the Packers all time rushing title.
http://www.sethbarnes.com/blogphotos/sethbarnes/www/church_lady.jpg

Well isn't that special?

MetSox17
12-13-2009, 12:46 PM
Andre Johnson: Pwning n00bs.

draftguru151
12-13-2009, 12:46 PM
Chad Henne is sooooooo sexy.

Goes 5/5 for 56 yards then gets the rushing TD!

bearsfan_51
12-13-2009, 12:47 PM
Chad Henne isn't the slightest bit sexy, but he is having a great game.

Gay Ork Wang
12-13-2009, 12:47 PM
Bears have 25 penalty yards.
23 offensive yards.

MetSox17
12-13-2009, 12:48 PM
6 rec, 117 yds, 2 TDs with 12 minutes to go in the second quarter. Lulz. Sorry Seahawks fans.

TitleTown088
12-13-2009, 12:50 PM
Chicago doing a good job of keeping the Packers out of the endzone. This game could be over already.

Sniper
12-13-2009, 12:52 PM
It's gotten to the point where I'm surprised when I see a QB threw a pick against GB that wasn't to Woodson.

<3 Charles.

JETS5128
12-13-2009, 12:52 PM
Jesus Christ, Clemens is Jamarcus Russell bad, this is obscene

WMD
12-13-2009, 12:53 PM
That was an awesome touchdown by Derrick Mason.

UKfan
12-13-2009, 12:54 PM
Winfield giving himself pressups for not making the pick, good times, he is still beasting today, some big hits.

One of my favourite non Colts.

TitleTown088
12-13-2009, 12:54 PM
Running the ball just isn't Chicago's Forte. Pun intended.

Gay Ork Wang
12-13-2009, 12:54 PM
Chicago doing a good job of keeping the Packers out of the endzone. This game could be over already.
it is over already

Gay Ork Wang
12-13-2009, 12:55 PM
the bears had like 5-10 no calls like that. i mean i have nothing really against them, but dont tell cutler to not get upset.

Crickett
12-13-2009, 01:01 PM
Clemens completed a pass!

Job
12-13-2009, 01:01 PM
Dallas Clark is a monster.

wicket
12-13-2009, 01:03 PM
brees with one of the prettiest throws ive seen this season

Shiver
12-13-2009, 01:05 PM
Andre Johnson is clowning Marcus Trufant.

UKfan
12-13-2009, 01:06 PM
Andre Johnson is clowning Marcus Trufant.

You say this like you weren't expecting it :confused:

Job
12-13-2009, 01:07 PM
Houston's special teams aren't very good aren't they?

Shiver
12-13-2009, 01:08 PM
Yeah, but nine catches, 169 yards and a TD in the first half is ridiculous.

Matthew Jones
12-13-2009, 01:08 PM
This Patriots game is miserable. The crowd is quiet, it's overcast, neither team is giving any effort. Patriots have dropped five passes from Brady - Moss has dropped one, caught one and then fumbled it, and jogged a route that got intercepted but wouldn't have if he was there. It feels like it's preseason.

Shiver
12-13-2009, 01:09 PM
Man I wish Fred Jackson was on a good team. He is great.

Im_a_Romosexual
12-13-2009, 01:09 PM
Yeah, but nine catches, 169 yards and a TD in the first half is ridiculous.

two tds.........

tjsunstein
12-13-2009, 01:10 PM
Nick Barnett has come on nicely this year. The 3-4 switch has made everyone in the front 7 better.

senormysterioso
12-13-2009, 01:10 PM
Yeah, but nine catches, 169 yards and a TD in the first half is ridiculous.

I'm almost sad that Seattle can't keep up because I don't want Houston to stop throwing.

Job
12-13-2009, 01:10 PM
Nick Barnett has come on nicely this year. The 3-4 switch has made everyone in the front 7 better.

Aaron Kampman obects.

tjsunstein
12-13-2009, 01:11 PM
You can't expect your secondary to cover for six seconds. No surprise Knox was just standing around.

Almost picked by Woodson.

Shiver
12-13-2009, 01:11 PM
Nick Barnett has come on nicely this year. The 3-4 switch has made everyone in the front 7 better.

Except for Aaron Kampman.

TitleTown088
12-13-2009, 01:12 PM
Woodsons got DPOY about wrapped up.

Gay Ork Wang
12-13-2009, 01:13 PM
the game plan is so horrible

Boston
12-13-2009, 01:13 PM
Jarrett Bush needs to get the **** off the team.