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El Peefs?????
12-14-2009, 03:34 AM
After looking through some of these lists and from the TV thread, Dexter is clearly one of the more popular shows. Because of DVR and it being on a premium channel, people watch it at different times. The TV thread becomes a scary place if you havent watched news episodes haha.

So what a last episode, ya? I absolutely loved this season, Lithgow was terrific. There are really a lot of directions Dexter can go now. Hes really built himself quite a mess here. I think season 5 is going to be much darker.

Regardless of what Dexter does, calls the police or cleans up Rita himself and she ends up 'missing' he is linked to Trinity now. It seems inevitable that Kyle Butler will be exposed as well. Now Deb knows exactly who he is, combined with a life long of seeing all of his.. oddities. I wonder if hell completely abandon his facade life at some point next season. It seems unlikely hell be able to continue being Dexter Morgan; Miami forensics.

thule
12-14-2009, 04:27 AM
I couldn't believe how this episode twisted. By the end I was just trying to keep my breath. I can't believe Rita is dead. I didn't even think about the cleanup.

What happens next season. How to he continue to kill without anyone to watch the kids. The baby won't be old enough to sleep through the night and alister isn't going to be babysitting overnight I wouldn't think.

There is going to have to be a babysitter introduced I would think, unless debra and dexter move in together which would be wierd imo...but being as they are the only family it would make sense.

Hell maybe deb and dex hook up because they are no longer bro and sis...as sick and twisted as that seems both have had spouses die, however I'm not sure how that'd go over at the office haha. IK this idea is rediculous but still funny to think about.

Also a side note dex and deb are married in real life.

Paranoidmoonduck
12-14-2009, 04:44 AM
I never read the books, nor do I know how closely the show has bothered to follow them, but...

I really doubt that it takes a turn where Dexter has to abandon his identity. Too much showtime invested in building characters other than himself and too much mileage left in developing them further. Debra 'knowing who he is' doesn't really mean much. The way they write her, the idea that she'd actually wind up suspecting him is pretty ridiculous. The suspicious character is going to be Quinn, who I'm betting won't live to see season 6.

Nalej
12-14-2009, 05:54 AM
Exactly. Quinn is looking more and more like Sgt. Doakes to me.
I didn't see Rita dying... great twist at the end.
I can definitely see Debra moving in with him to help take care of the kids
I wonder if they'll introduce a new chick for him?

Trinity was great and by far my fav season so far

vidae
12-14-2009, 10:33 AM
Amazing season overall but really awesome season finale. I NEVER saw that ending coming. I kept thinking about what could happen and never did I think Rita would be dead at the end of the episode. Just amazing. John Lithgow was brilliant in his role as Trinity. Perfect casting.

I've read all the books so there are a few ways I could see them taking the next season, but I won't spoil that for anyone who wants to read the books.

Only click this spoiler if you want something from the books revealed, otherwise just skip it:

In the books he discovers that Astor and Cody have the same dark passenger in them that he does, and he intends to teach them the code of Harry.

Trust me though, there are a lot of possibilities. They have some great material to work with.

tjsunstein
12-14-2009, 10:56 AM
Wow. I knew something was gonna happen at the end of the episode but as time kept getting closer to the end*, there were limited options I saw and Rita definitely wasn't one of them. I'm basically shocked.

Brent
12-14-2009, 11:35 AM
I liked Rita, I was kind of pissed they killed her off but it was a pretty ******* sweet twist.

Boston
12-14-2009, 02:01 PM
Wow, that was a dark turn, even for Dexter. I'm still trying to come to grips with it.

El Peefs?????
12-14-2009, 02:08 PM
One thing that I dont think will be an issue next season is the kids. I highly, highly doubt we see a whole lot of Astor or Cody from now on. Dexter had been there step dad for all of a couple months. They made a point to show in this episode that both of their biological grandparents are alive. They will probably end up with custody, mostly removing those two characters.

vidae
12-14-2009, 02:40 PM
I like the family dynamic that he has to deal with personally.

El Peefs?????
12-14-2009, 03:10 PM
I liked it myself, but I dont think its a necessity. He is going to have a load of stuff to deal with next season, including still his baby.

I just hope they don't decide to try and sweep all the legal suspicion/trouble he should be in under the rug. That is really the only way i can see season 5 being bad.

Brent
12-14-2009, 03:28 PM
I just hope they don't decide to try and sweep all the legal suspicion/trouble he should be in under the rug. That is really the only way i can see season 5 being bad.
I dont know if you have noticed but he gets out of everything. No matter how ****** a situation gets, he either figures it out or luck turns his way.

Vox Populi
12-14-2009, 04:06 PM
Amazing season overall but really awesome season finale. I NEVER saw that ending coming. I kept thinking about what could happen and never did I think Rita would be dead at the end of the episode. Just amazing. John Lithgow was brilliant in his role as Trinity. Perfect casting.

I've read all the books so there are a few ways I could see them taking the next season, but I won't spoil that for anyone who wants to read the books.

Only click this spoiler if you want something from the books revealed, otherwise just skip it:

In the books he discovers that Astor and Cody have the same dark passenger in them that he does, and he intends to teach them the code of Harry.

Trust me though, there are a lot of possibilities. They have some great material to work with.

For the people who read his book spoiler...

I really doubt that happens, especially because of how he found Harrison "born in blood" at the end as well.

Hes probably thinking he has to tech Harrison that stuff, no way he tries it on Astor and Cody too. No way theres going to be 3 mini dexter morgans running around eventually lol.

El Peefs?????
12-14-2009, 04:13 PM
I dont know if you have noticed but he gets out of everything. No matter how ****** a situation gets, he either figures it out or luck turns his way.

Which is fine, I want to see him figure that out. What I don't want is for the next season to start and that whole situation just, for the most part, not be there. Like he resolved everything between seasons when we werent watching. You know the whole '1 year later' thing. That would be overtly disappointing.

A Perfect Score
12-14-2009, 04:17 PM
Wow. What a finale. As I was watching it, I couldnt help but think as Trinity drove away in the Mustang, he was going to meet Rita, either to kill her or for other reasons (ie. They already knew each other in some way or another). This was not an ending I saw coming, but I assumed it would have to do with Rita.

Not really sure where the series will go from here. I can honestly say I am not a fan of the books, and Ive stated on numerous occasions that if you put the character of Dexter in a more talented writer's hands (Lindsay, the original author, leaves alot to be desired), you could have had some extremely compelling novels. That said, I do think that sometime in the near future, there is going to be someone who finds out what Dexter is and doesnt die in the end.

I agree about Aster and Cody, I dont know how much involvement they will have in the series future, but Harrison will definitely be there. I think Dexter calls the police and deals with alot of suspicion, particularly from Quinn, as to why Trinity broke the cycle, and especially pertaining to Rita.

By the way, dick move by Trinity. Couldnt he of just died? I really liked Rita haha.

Vox Populi
12-14-2009, 04:20 PM
I liked Rita, but mostly cause she wasn't some dumb annoying **** like that British ***** that torched Doakes, I forget her name, and I'm glad. Please don't bring any ****** up annoying ass girlfriends into the show :|

A Perfect Score
12-14-2009, 04:22 PM
Yeah I really hope they dont just replace Rita with another female character similar to what happens on alot of series. I think this is one of the few occasions where a male lead doesnt need a strong female counterpart to play off...Hall is more then capable of carrying the show.

Boston
12-14-2009, 04:31 PM
I wonder how much of Dexter's social life is going to change from this point on. As Harry said at some point in the season, Dexter started to date Rita as a social cover, and now that she's gone, he no longer has that to fall back on when giving an excuse as to his whereabouts.

You also have to wonder about how much Dexter will actually mourn Rita. We know he loved her, but showing emotion isn't exactly his strong suit, and if somebody like Quinn or Deb sees this, either a faked mourning or a lack thereof, questions could be raised. The more I think about it the better it probably was for the show, the death of Rita that is, but I was just starting to actually like her presence, so we'll see what happens...

P-L
12-14-2009, 04:37 PM
I was pretty much expecting anything to happen... except for that. So ridiculous.

vidae
12-14-2009, 05:24 PM
I was pretty much expecting anything to happen... except for that. So ridiculous.

I think that was my mindset going into that episode too. I knew there would be something insane and huge at the end and I prepared myself for whatever it was, but that ending blew me away. I never expected that. I never even considered it when I was thinking of shocker ending possibilities.

It really is a waste, too. I thought Rita was insanely hot.

jayceheathman
12-14-2009, 05:27 PM
I havent watched a single episode of Dexter but my girlfriend is into it and said she cried a little at the end.

tjsunstein
12-14-2009, 05:39 PM
I just wanna watch next season right now.

Brodeur
12-14-2009, 05:49 PM
Well the FBI took over the case so Dexter could probably get away with the Kyle Butler stuff pretty easily. And I seriously doubt that Dexter will cover up what Arthur did to Rita and that whole thing can kind of be explained away because of Deb's connection and all.

Lithgow and Michael C. Hall talked after the episode in a little interview (Michael's hair right now just looks dreadful) and Lithgow made a crack at how he wouldn't want to have to write next season after the whole Rita ordeal. It's up on the Showtime website if anyone wants to watch it, as it is pretty interesting (minus the horrible shaved hairstyle Michael has).

RoyHall#1
12-14-2009, 06:02 PM
I didn't read anything in here yet, but I just started watching Dexter over break and am currently through the first 2 seasons. Probably the best show I've ever watched. (I don't watch too many TV shows). But yeah, it's awesome, and I hope this thread will stick around by the time I catch up to you guys.

How is season 3 and 4 compared to the first 2? I thought Season 2 was better than 1.

Boston
12-14-2009, 06:06 PM
I didn't read anything in here yet, but I just started watching Dexter over break and am currently through the first 2 seasons. Probably the best show I've ever watched. (I don't watch too many TV shows). But yeah, it's awesome, and I hope this thread will stick around by the time I catch up to you guys.

How is season 3 and 4 compared to the first 2? I thought Season 2 was better than 1.

Really? I've always thought season 1 was the best, despite the greatness that season four has been. Something like,

1 > 4 > 2 > 3

But yeah, season three is still good, but it doesn't have that same feeling as the others when it comes to suspense and what not.

PalmerToCJ
12-14-2009, 06:12 PM
I will bold everything you can read without spoiling the 4th season.....

For me it goes...

1. First Season
2. Second Season
3. Fourth Season
4. Third Season

All have been good, I really liked this season although throughout the whole season it wasn't as good as the first or second season. The ending was insane though.


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I'm about 90% sure it will end with Dexter getting arrested or at least strongly accused with Rita's murder. I mean, Quinn is already suspicious of him for cheating... He will have no alibi for when she died as he was trying to kill trinity. He was acting strange surrounding her death and the whole Kyle Butler issue.

I can see him spending the next season trying to get out of the mess from Rita's death. It seriously blindsided me. After he killed trinity I thought nice episode. Plus when Rita and the kids had left I figured at least they were in the clear, then when he got her voicemail I wondered how it was relevant to the plot... Then when he called her phone and it went off I figured something had happened but the bathroom scene was just nuts and ironic.

Great freaking episode. I seriously am like depressed/freaked out by her dying. It's dumb but it's going to kill me to wait till next season. I was honestly wondering where they would go in season 5 too, the possibilities are endless now.

thule
12-14-2009, 06:15 PM
I thought each season was as good if not better if they went along. Looking back on it season 1 really proves to be a really great season...but I think seasons 2 and 3 actually make it better than it was before since it ties a lot of pieces together.

I'd say 4, 3, 2, 1 The further the story goes the better it gets imo.

A Perfect Score
12-14-2009, 06:17 PM
For me, its 1>4>3>2 I think. Jimmy Smits was awesome, and season 2 had some lapses in the middle.

As for next season, I dont think there is any way Dexter is accused of Rita's death. I mean she died in the same manner as the Trinity victims, so that will probably be acknowledged as a kill of his. I think what will be suspicious is why she was picked by Trinity and how Dexter is involved. Also, I think maybe some sort of relationship between Deb and Quinn forms, and maybe she lets it slip about Dexter's past, tipping Quinn off. Im not sure where it heads from here, but they certainly shocked the lot of us with those last 2 minutes.

vidae
12-14-2009, 06:17 PM
I actually think your rankings are spot on, Boston.

I'd also go 1 -> 4 -> 2 -> 3.

The first season was my favorite but after this last season I might have to think about changing the rankings up a bit.

vidae
12-14-2009, 06:19 PM
Great freaking episode. I seriously am like depressed/freaked out by her dying. It's dumb but it's going to kill me to wait till next season. I was honestly wondering where they would go in season 5 too, the possibilities are endless now.

Couldn't agree with this more. My mouth dropped open and I still can't believe it. I can't believe we have to wait until the end of next September to see more of this show.

Brodeur
12-14-2009, 06:44 PM
The first episode of the season is usually leaked sometime in August if that helps at all.

VoteLynnSwan
12-14-2009, 07:01 PM
For me, its 1>4>3>2 I think. Jimmy Smits was awesome, and season 2 had some lapses in the middle.

As for next season, I dont think there is any way Dexter is accused of Rita's death. I mean she died in the same manner as the Trinity victims, so that will probably be acknowledged as a kill of his. I think what will be suspicious is why she was picked by Trinity and how Dexter is involved. Also, I think maybe some sort of relationship between Deb and Quinn forms, and maybe she lets it slip about Dexter's past, tipping Quinn off. Im not sure where it heads from here, but they certainly shocked the lot of us with those last 2 minutes.

Rita doesn't fit Trinity's profile for the bathtub murder. It's supposed to be a young woman, and she's a mother of 3.

Definitely one of the best shows on television... i love the darkness of it.

Vox Populi
12-14-2009, 07:55 PM
My favourite seasons go 4 > 1 > 2 > 3

And yeah, the thing with Rita is that she doesn't fit the profile for the 2nd death at all. She isn't necessarily old, only around 30, so theres going to be some questions about that for sure. Dexter's lack of "feelings" could definitely become evident and hes going to need to fake them hard probably, or he actually finds that he does have some kind of feelings inside him. I think there are going to be some similarities between seasons 5 and 2 for sure, in a different way, Dexter won't be a serial killer suspect or potential serial killer suspect, there will be questions about him regarding Rita's death for sure I think though. You're going to have the FBI involved again and Quinn can take on a role of opposition to Dexter like Doakes did, to say the least, I'm stoked for season 5. Time to get caught up on House and start watching Californication I think :D

Notredameleo
12-15-2009, 01:06 AM
How come Batista hasn't put it together that Arthur was at the station talking to Dexter? he walked right between them, and now they know who he is...?

vidae
12-15-2009, 01:17 AM
Looking at someone dead on and seeing a picture are two different things. Maybe he didn't get a good look. Maybe he was preoccupied or something.

Brodeur
12-15-2009, 01:24 AM
How come Batista hasn't put it together that Arthur was at the station talking to Dexter? he walked right between them, and now they know who he is...?

Miami Metro is a dumb ******* department. The only decent cops are Doakes, Lundy, and Debra, and two of them are dead.

vidae
12-15-2009, 01:26 AM
I miss Doakes. He was hilarious. The first thing he ever said was something along the lines of "what're you looking at ************?".. I liked him almost instantly.

Brodeur
12-15-2009, 01:28 AM
You give me the ******* creeps you know that Dexter?

SFbear
12-15-2009, 01:35 AM
The image of Rita lying in the tub with Trinity naked and terrified right before he kills her makes me want to cry and vomit at the same time. Just when you thought the show couldn't get any darker ... Rita? Really? =( FML.

Nalej
12-15-2009, 05:56 AM
You give me the ******* creeps you know that Dexter?

haha... that was a great line by Doakes

PalmerToCJ
12-15-2009, 12:03 PM
The image of Rita lying in the tub with Trinity naked and terrified right before he kills her makes me want to cry and vomit at the same time. Just when you thought the show couldn't get any darker ... Rita? Really? =( FML.

No kidding. I mean at least Dexter could've killed trinity after that so I could feel not like some revenge was had lol.

kwilk103
12-15-2009, 01:06 PM
read this theory on another site

In the final scene when Trinity was talking about it being Gods plan and the plan for it to happen that way, assuming the kid found in the new site as the first victim, that would mean Rita was the second victim, and then I'm assuming that there is a third we don't know about yet that was pushed to her suicide, and that would then make Dexter bashing Trinity the end of Trinity's cycle, and thus ending his cycle on his own death. Kind of makes sense with the way Trinity was talking and fits in more with Rita dying. Just more reason the ending was great.

Brodeur
12-15-2009, 01:26 PM
Well in a way he had his own cycle this time with the Rita's bathtub death, the kidnapping (albeit failed) of the 10 year old boy, a woman committing suicide (his daughter), and bludgeoning Kyle Butler, so that theory is really really unlikely.

El Peefs?????
12-15-2009, 01:32 PM
How come Batista hasn't put it together that Arthur was at the station talking to Dexter? he walked right between them, and now they know who he is...?

Maybe he has, there wasnt a whole lot of Batista this episode. They didnt find Trinities actual identity until half the episode was over, I'm not sure if they ever showed us Batista after that. Combine with Dexter being out of uniform at the crime scene before everyone else & Batista might have a lot put together, we just havent been shown yet.

Brodeur
12-15-2009, 01:58 PM
Maybe he has, there wasnt a whole lot of Batista this episode. They didnt find Trinities actual identity until half the episode was over, I'm not sure if they ever showed us Batista after that. Combine with Dexter being out of uniform at the crime scene before everyone else & Batista might have a lot put together, we just havent been shown yet.

Please don't overestimate Batista like that.

A Perfect Score
12-15-2009, 02:04 PM
Maybe, maybe she isn't dead! Maybe Rita had a twin sister, and the real Rita just went to the store to get some milk! MAYBE?!?????

I cant believe she is dead :(

trkaline
12-15-2009, 09:37 PM
A total mindfuck....

RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES
12-16-2009, 07:46 AM
I was completely shocked. This sucks. I loved the episode but I loved Rita. I have a feeling without Rita Dexter is going to be a lot darker. I couldn't believe it when I seen it.

trkaline
12-16-2009, 08:21 AM
Hands down best season finale I've ever seen, I expected Arthur to go after Rita.....but didn't expect him to succeed....wow it was great, that's the way you end a season...not the ***** cop out route The Sopranos used.

Notredameleo
12-17-2009, 01:25 AM
I loved rita.... :(

JT Jag
12-19-2009, 10:03 PM
Finally got around to watching the episode.

Hooooooly ****.

nepg
09-29-2010, 08:53 AM
I don't think Trinity did this one, to be honest....we'll see.

badgerbacker
12-15-2012, 09:13 AM
Not sure if anybody still watches Dexter, but it's been a decent season if you ask me.

Does everybody agree with me that Debra framed Hannah? Any other predictions for the finale?

Dr. Gonzo
12-15-2012, 09:17 AM
Not sure if anybody still watches Dexter, but it's been a decent season if you ask me.

Does everybody agree with me that Debra framed Hannah? Any other predictions for the finale?

I am sure she framed Hannah but I really did not like that last episode. Season has been alright, Deb and LaGuerta both dying somehow would be lovely.

badgerbacker
12-15-2012, 09:25 AM
LaGuerta dying would be great, but I can't see that happening. If Dexter killed her, it would just be too obvious that he did it. If anything, Dexter frames her to look like Doakes' partner or something.

Deb won't die either, but I'm interested to see how Dexter reacts when he (I'm assuming) finds out that Hannah didn't do the poisoning.

Early in the season, I thought Batista was going to die since he seems to be finding peace leaving the force and getting into the resturant business. I can't really see that now unless they decide to end the season on a cliffhanger involving a new killer. I suppose that's a possibility, but we'll see.

Nalej
12-15-2012, 09:36 AM
Deb definitely framed Hanna.
Setting up Leguerta as Doakes' partner would be pretty awesome.
I could also see Hanna and Dext's making up and Hanna taking out LeGuerta herself

Brodeur
12-15-2012, 12:16 PM
I am sure she framed Hannah but I really did not like that last episode. Season has been alright, Deb and LaGuerta both dying somehow would be lovely.

Yes, killing off the only passable character left since they killed off Isaak is a fantastic idea.

Dr. Gonzo
12-15-2012, 12:23 PM
Yes, killing off the only passable character left since they killed off Isaak is a fantastic idea.

I assume you are talking about Deb and if so I think you are crazy. Her arc this season has been awful. She has become even more unbearable than she was before. Horrible inconsistent character. The show really does need another interesting character but Deb is certainly not interesting.

Smooth Criminal
12-18-2012, 04:41 AM
Deb is the only one left on the show that isn't some corny sideshow weirdo.

I love that she saved us from more of LaGuerta, but can you imagine how much of whiny bitchy Deb were gonna get to start next season. That's easily when she's at her worst.

I'm still kinda suprised Hannah actually poisoned her. Did she really think Dex wouldn't find out and leave her? Thought she was supposed to be smart.

Nalej
12-18-2012, 08:27 AM
Yea, I was bummed about Hanna's involvement in the crash.
She's free now though. I wonder how she's involved in next year.
Also, all the Doakes scenes... man I miss his character! So awesome.

I'm looking forward to next season.

badgerbacker
12-18-2012, 08:56 AM
I was very surprised that Hannah actually was the one who did the poisoning. The random blonde strand of hair in the bathroom seemed like classic planting of evidence. Add that to the fact that it seemed out of character for Hannah, but I guess we're supposed to assume that Deb was right about her and we never actually knew the "real" Hannah.

I'm not sure how the writers will proceed from here. They certainly have set it up for Hannah to become the villain, but she's never been the spree type killer before. It seems like the only thing that could happen is she goes crazy and decides to go after all the people close to Dexter in some attempt to have the two of them end up with nobody but each other.

As far as LaGuerta dying, they must have just dumped the body. This should raise questions, but who knows. They could have said Deb shot her in self-defense, but since they ended up going to the retirement party and not calling it in, they obviously aren't going that route.

I was happy with a majority of this season, but kind of a disappointing ending for me. I thought they had a decent character/relationship with Hannah, but it seems as though she's going to become crazy. Dexter was starting to evolve a little with her and there was light at the end of his tunnel by realizing that he has more control over what he does, but I'm guessing he'll go back to dealing with his "dark passenger" now. Just when it seemed like the writers were trying to be creative and move somewhere, I feel like they got lazy and decided to just throw it back in the old rut they were in for the next season.

The only evolution I think we saw was from Deb. The writers clearly like her more than I (and it seems like a majority of the audience at least on these boards) do and continue to cram the Dexter/Deb relationship down our throats. The fact that she ran to LaGuerta and hugged her while crying after shooting her to me says that she's starting to move on from Dexter. We saw this a couple other times in the last few episodes of her deciding to do things for herself rather than for Dexter. If they continue this way, I could see her eventually turning on him, but knowing these writers she'll probably fall back to where she was before.

I always enjoy watching the show, but realize it isn't very good when I reflect on what I've seen...meh.