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foozball
12-20-2009, 10:26 PM
Looks like next year could be a huge year for 6'5 WRs who could go in the 1st round. How would you rank them and what range do you think they go?

AJ Green (6'4/210lbs)
Julio Jones (6'2/212lbs)
Michael Floyd (6'3/220lbs)
DeAndre Brown (6'6/230lbs)
Jonathan Baldwin (6'5/225lbs)
DeVier Posey (6'3/205lbs)

Todd Bertuzzi
12-20-2009, 10:29 PM
Yes, next year is a great year for WRs, but it's the 2011 draft.

ElectricEye
12-20-2009, 10:38 PM
Order I like'em.

Julio Jones
AJ Green
Jonathan Baldwin
DeAndre Brown
Michael Floyd
Devier Posey

I'm higher on Baldwin and Brown than most, but I still think Floyd is a top fifteen type talent. Posey might fall out of the first round all together just because the rest of those guys are going to be spread throughout it. Crazy, crazy, crazy talented wide receiver class next year.

dex
12-21-2009, 12:02 AM
I'll take AJ Green over J. Jones any day.

I also think the CB group will be a good one.

scottyboy
12-21-2009, 12:05 AM
2012 WR class will be led and dominated by Mohammed Sanu.

2011, however, it's AJ Green all day baby

phlysac
12-21-2009, 12:05 AM
Yes, next year is a great year for WRs, but it's the 2011 draft.

Yeah but it's the 2012 WR class. They'll all be Juniors but draft eligible in 2011.

CashmoneyDrew
12-21-2009, 12:26 AM
Might as well throw in Terrelle Pryor. :D

ToldLikeItIs
12-21-2009, 03:52 AM
Marvin McNutt warrants a little pub

underscore
12-21-2009, 04:57 AM
Penn State's Derek Moye

JFLO
12-21-2009, 05:00 AM
Nick Toon from Wisconsin as well...not as talented as the players in the OP, but he has tremendous body control and overall athleticism.

Day One Pick
12-21-2009, 05:18 AM
1 Julio Jones, 6-4, 212, Alabama*
2 A.J. Green, 6-4, 208, Georgia*
3 Jonathan Baldwin, 6-5, 225, Pitt*
4 Damien Williams, 6-1, 190, Southern California
5 DeMaryius Thomas, 6-3, 228, Georgia Tech
6 Michael Floyd, 6-3, 220, Notre Dame*
7 Armon Binns, 6-4, 200, Cincinnati
8 DeVier Posey, 6-3, 205, Ohio State*
9 Dezmon Briscoe, 6-3, 200, Kansas
10 Nick Toon, 6-3, 212, Wisconsin*
11 Austin Pettis, 6-3, 202, Boise State
12 Ryan Broyles, 5-11, 178, Oklahoma*
13 Chris Owusu, 6-2, 201, Stanford*
14 Terrance Tolliver, 6-4, 206, Louisiana State
15 David Gilreath, 5-11, 170, Wisconsin
16 Derek Moye, 6-5, 198, Penn State*
17 Dyrell Roberts, 6-1, 190, Virginia Tech*
18 Tandon Doss, 6-3, 199, Indiana*
19 Malcolm Williams, 6-3, 220, Texas*
20 Jarrett Boykin, 6-2, 215, Virginia Tech*
21 DeAndre Brown, 6-6, 230, Southern Miss
22 Leonard Hankerson, 6-3, 215, Miami
23 Antonio Brown, 5-10, 185, Central Michigan
24 Marvin McNutt, 6-4, 215, Iowa
25 Marcus Barnett, 6-1, 180, Cincinnati*
26 Mark Dell, 6-2, 190, Michigan State
27 Tori Gurley, 6-5, 227, South Carolina#
28 LaRon Byrd, 6-4, 215, Miami*
29 Owen Spencer, 6-3, 180, North Carolina State
30 Keith Smith, 6-2, 226, Purdue
31 Carlton Mitchell, 6-4, 210, South Florida
32 Aldrick Robinson, 5-10, 175, Southern Methodist
33 Jarvis Williams, 6-4, 205, North Carolina State
34 Vincent Brown, 6-0, 180, San Diego State
35 Frantell Forrest, 6-2, 195, Alabama-Birmingham
36 Jeshua Anderson, 6-2, 185, Washington State

GhostDeini
12-21-2009, 05:43 AM
1.Michael Floyd
2.A.J. Green
3.Jonathan Baldwin
4.Julio Jones
5.DeAndre Brown
6.DeVier Posey

Dirt McGirt
12-21-2009, 07:27 AM
1.Michael Floyd
2.A.J. Green
3.Jonathan Baldwin
4.Julio Jones
5.DeAndre Brown
6.DeVier Posey

This is how I have them

RealityCheck
12-21-2009, 07:33 AM
10 Nick Toon, 6-3, 212, Wisconsin*

Never heard of this guy. I laughed at his name, though.

DiG
12-21-2009, 07:47 AM
Baldwin is so nasty. He could end up being my favorite in this class by draft time. His size and speed combination is fantastic. He is a great blocker. He has tremendous leaping ability and knows how to locate the ball at its highest point. Watch out for this guy to garner top 10 potential.

phlysac
12-21-2009, 09:30 AM
Never heard of this guy. I laughed at his name, though.

Nick Toon looks phenomenal but I don't think he can live up to his father's #10 overall pick status.

Al Toon was amazing. Sad that he had to retire after only 8 seasons. He was, without question, one of my favorite WRs of all-time.

Mr.KnowItAll
12-21-2009, 09:34 AM
2012 WR class will be led and dominated by Mohammed Sanu.

2011, however, it's AJ Green all day baby

I watched Sanu for the first time this year in the bowl game and came away very impressive. He has the best run after the catch skills in college right now. He almost looks like he should be moved to rb.

Green has the best size/speed followed by Baldwin.

ElectricEye
12-21-2009, 10:12 AM
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Green has the best size/speed followed by Baldwin.

DeAndre Brown and Julio Jones beg to differ. Green might be faster than them, but Julio Jones is defiantly almost as fast and probably a step faster than Baldwin.

SenorGato
12-21-2009, 12:08 PM
Baldwin is so nasty. He could end up being my favorite in this class by draft time. His size and speed combination is fantastic. He is a great blocker. He has tremendous leaping ability and knows how to locate the ball at its highest point. Watch out for this guy to garner top 10 potential.

Love the way Baldwin plays. He's one of those guys who just plucks the ball out of the air...his strength (and it's upside) for the position is ridiculous.

I do not want to hear one Mike Williams comparison for him either. Way more fluid of an athlete...

dex
12-21-2009, 12:10 PM
DeAndre Brown and Julio Jones beg to differ. Green might be faster than them, but Julio Jones is defiantly almost as fast and probably a step faster than Baldwin.

Thing is, Julio just doesn't compare when catching the ball in traffic and going up to get it. No one goes up for the ball better than AJ Green other than Larry Fitzgerald and Moss.

Without a doubt Green has more potential.

RealityCheck
12-21-2009, 12:11 PM
I've seen Sanu play for the first time against UCF. And I thought he was a RB, lol. Maybe it was just me.

Mr.KnowItAll
12-21-2009, 12:20 PM
DeAndre Brown and Julio Jones beg to differ. Green might be faster than them, but Julio Jones is defiantly almost as fast and probably a step faster than Baldwin.

Well Julio Jones has never even averaged over 16 yards a catch for a season. While Green has done it for two seasons and Baldwin has averaged an impressive 20+ yards per catch. I would call that being more explosive. If your going off just production then AJ Green almost missed 4 games and still had more yards then Jones, who had less then 600 yards

superman8456
12-21-2009, 12:24 PM
Whenever I think about DeAndre Brown, I think about the time he broke his leg when playing.




http://media.thestate.com/smedia/2009/10/14/22/alshonlead.lead_art_horizontal.prod_affiliate.74.j pg

I love this Alshon Jeffrey as well. He averaged 17 yards a catch as a freshman.

Babylon
12-21-2009, 12:39 PM
Gotta go with a homer pick. Jermaine Kearse U of Wash.

SickwithIt1010
12-21-2009, 12:46 PM
Michael Floyd
Julio Jones
AJ Green
Deandre Brown
Jonathan Baldwin
Devier Posey

Thats how i see it lookin come next year. Ive said this so much, but when i see Floyd i see Fitzgerald. Im a huge USC fan, and it seems wierd to like Floyd as much as i do, but the guy is unreal.

scottyboy
12-21-2009, 02:33 PM
I've seen Sanu play for the first time against UCF. And I thought he was a RB, lol. Maybe it was just me.

considering he had 97 recieving yards, yea, it was just you.

and AJ Green is a beast. He's coming off injury, correct? I haven't followed much outside the big east this year

RyanBraun8
12-21-2009, 04:41 PM
Nick Toon from Wisconsin as well...not as talented as the players in the OP, but he has tremendous body control and overall athleticism.

Yeah I agree, he may not be top tier with Green, Jones, Floyd, Brown but would be great value in the second round. He just keeps getting better and better. Also his 6'3 212 is pushing it a bit he is more like 6'0 212.

http://www.annarbor.com/assets_c/2009/11/NICK-TOON-111509-thumb-330x481-16183.jpg


A.J. Green is number 1 i think, Julio not far behind and then Floyd

Mr.KnowItAll
12-21-2009, 04:45 PM
considering he had 97 recieving yards, yea, it was just you.

and AJ Green is a beast. He's coming off injury, correct? I haven't followed much outside the big east this year

You don't think Sanu runs like a running back with the ball? I only saw that one game but he has good size and runs with power. The coaches were runniing him more too. He averaged almost 15 carries a game over the last three games.

billsfootball15
12-21-2009, 04:55 PM
I would go:

1. AJ Green
2. Michael Floyd
3. Jonathan Baldwin
4. Julio Jones
5. Deandre Brown
6. Damien Williams
7. DeMaryius Thomas
8. DeVier Posey

wow posey is only 8th ranked WR, what do you think, 8 first rounders? i see 6 at least. If based on pure talent, Julio Jones should rank higher, but i feel like he sorta disappears during some games. Maybe its because of Bama's monster run game (Coffee last year, Ingram this year) that he doesnt have to be focal point of Bama offense

RaiderNation
12-21-2009, 05:00 PM
Why couldnt we trade last years 1st round for Seymour and draft a WR in next years draft!!! Damn you Al!!!

phlysac
12-21-2009, 05:13 PM
I keep seeing the Moss comparisons. Without saying who will be the better pros, I truly believe that the player that compares most to Moss is Baldwin. I wonder how much he's actually been seen by some.

Here's some of what he has to offer... and this is just from one game.

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jbooshey
12-21-2009, 05:24 PM
1 Julio Jones, 6-4, 212, Alabama*
2 A.J. Green, 6-4, 208, Georgia*
3 Jonathan Baldwin, 6-5, 225, Pitt*
4 Damien Williams, 6-1, 190, Southern California
5 DeMaryius Thomas, 6-3, 228, Georgia Tech
6 Michael Floyd, 6-3, 220, Notre Dame*
7 Armon Binns, 6-4, 200, Cincinnati
8 DeVier Posey, 6-3, 205, Ohio State*
9 Dezmon Briscoe, 6-3, 200, Kansas
10 Nick Toon, 6-3, 212, Wisconsin*
11 Austin Pettis, 6-3, 202, Boise State
12 Ryan Broyles, 5-11, 178, Oklahoma*
13 Chris Owusu, 6-2, 201, Stanford*
14 Terrance Tolliver, 6-4, 206, Louisiana State
15 David Gilreath, 5-11, 170, Wisconsin
16 Derek Moye, 6-5, 198, Penn State*
17 Dyrell Roberts, 6-1, 190, Virginia Tech*
18 Tandon Doss, 6-3, 199, Indiana*
19 Malcolm Williams, 6-3, 220, Texas*
20 Jarrett Boykin, 6-2, 215, Virginia Tech*
21 DeAndre Brown, 6-6, 230, Southern Miss
22 Leonard Hankerson, 6-3, 215, Miami
23 Antonio Brown, 5-10, 185, Central Michigan
24 Marvin McNutt, 6-4, 215, Iowa
25 Marcus Barnett, 6-1, 180, Cincinnati*
26 Mark Dell, 6-2, 190, Michigan State
27 Tori Gurley, 6-5, 227, South Carolina#
28 LaRon Byrd, 6-4, 215, Miami*
29 Owen Spencer, 6-3, 180, North Carolina State
30 Keith Smith, 6-2, 226, Purdue
31 Carlton Mitchell, 6-4, 210, South Florida
32 Aldrick Robinson, 5-10, 175, Southern Methodist
33 Jarvis Williams, 6-4, 205, North Carolina State
34 Vincent Brown, 6-0, 180, San Diego State
35 Frantell Forrest, 6-2, 195, Alabama-Birmingham
36 Jeshua Anderson, 6-2, 185, Washington State

Just an FYI...take David Gilreath off this list...he will not be on the pro radar anymore. I'm a big Badger guy and he has dropped off the list for sure. As for Nick Toon...someone in the thread said he was closer to 6'0"...no way...6'2" at the least.

CC.SD
12-21-2009, 06:10 PM
Me and Julio down by the schoolyard...every time I see him play I think he's a better and better prospect. For a long time I was not sold on him being in the elite WR (compared to years past, not his own class) discussion but I think by this time next year he will get there and be the #1 wideout.

ElectricEye
12-21-2009, 09:12 PM
Well Julio Jones has never even averaged over 16 yards a catch for a season. While Green has done it for two seasons and Baldwin has averaged an impressive 20+ yards per catch. I would call that being more explosive. If your going off just production then AJ Green almost missed 4 games and still had more yards then Jones, who had less then 600 yards

You can't use YPC to justify how explosive someone is. It doesn't work statistically or practically. Green does have superior production, but he also has better quarterback play for a big time wide receiver. Greg McElroy is absolutely allergic to throwing any passes beyond five yards. If you want to play the numbers game, look to last year. Jones produced at the same level Green did without Matthew Stafford throwing to him.

Also, to the person who said Jones doesn't go up and get the ball, again, you're basing that on this year. He hasn't been given the chance to make plays on the ball in the air. When he was last year, he was excellent. Also doesn't hurt that he's about the most aggressive receiver after the catch like...ever. He attacks defensive backs.

Mr.KnowItAll
12-22-2009, 10:02 AM
You can't use YPC to justify how explosive someone is. It doesn't work statistically or practically. Green does have superior production, but he also has better quarterback play for a big time wide receiver. Greg McElroy is absolutely allergic to throwing any passes beyond five yards. If you want to play the numbers game, look to last year. Jones produced at the same level Green did without Matthew Stafford throwing to him.

Also, to the person who said Jones doesn't go up and get the ball, again, you're basing that on this year. He hasn't been given the chance to make plays on the ball in the air. When he was last year, he was excellent. Also doesn't hurt that he's about the most aggressive receiver after the catch like...ever. He attacks defensive backs.

I wouldn't call Joe Cox an all star. AJ Green still put up good numbers despite missing almost 4 games with Cox throwing him the ball.

I'll compare Julio Jones to a WR on his own team to show how much this stands out. Marquis Maze had 60 less recieving yards the Julio! If your a dominant WR you produce no matter who is throwing the ball. McElroy also did pretty well in his first year starting. He threw 17 td/4 int.

ElectricEye
12-22-2009, 10:34 AM
I wouldn't call Joe Cox an all star. AJ Green still put up good numbers despite missing almost 4 games with Cox throwing him the ball.

I'll compare Julio Jones to a WR on his own team to show how much this stands out. Marquis Maze had 60 less recieving yards the Julio! If your a dominant WR you produce no matter who is throwing the ball. McElroy also did pretty well in his first year starting. He threw 17 td/4 int.

Again, the only thing you are looking at is numbers. I wouldn't call Joe Cox an All-Star either, but he was a better quarterback for AJ Green than McElroy is with Julio Jones. McElroy and him just completely lack chemistry. Jones consistently gets open if you watch the games, but McElroy looks elsewhere, usually to checkdowns. I'm by no means arguing that AJ Green isn't a top flight wide receiver, but I don't think it's fair to say he's a far superior talent to Jones because of the numbers he put up.

LizardState
12-22-2009, 11:24 AM
Nick Toon from Wisconsin as well...not as talented as the players in the OP, but he has tremendous body control and overall athleticism.

Any relation to Al Toon, WR from the same school who was a NY Jet & left the NFL after too many concussions? Fans of my age remember Al Toon very well.

His son perhaps?

Add Alshon Jeffrey from SCar (Fr. in 09) to the list, although he could be a 2012 WR. He's like 6-4, 202, impressed me a lot last yr. in the SEC as a budding star.

RockyMtn_Badger
12-23-2009, 12:11 AM
Yeah I agree, he may not be top tier with Green, Jones, Floyd, Brown but would be great value in the second round. He just keeps getting better and better. Also his 6'3 212 is pushing it a bit he is more like 6'0 212.

http://www.annarbor.com/assets_c/2009/11/NICK-TOON-111509-thumb-330x481-16183.jpg


A.J. Green is number 1 i think, Julio not far behind and then Floyd

Haha, i don't know what you are smoking or if you have ever seen him in real life but I go to school at UW and he is 6'3 for sure. Should get much more pub next year with Graham leaving and him becoming the #1 weapon in the passing game.

And yes, he is Al's son

stephenson86
12-23-2009, 08:25 AM
Whenever I think about DeAndre Brown, I think about the time he broke his leg when playing.




http://media.thestate.com/smedia/2009/10/14/22/alshonlead.lead_art_horizontal.prod_affiliate.74.j pg

I love this Alshon Jeffrey as well. He averaged 17 yards a catch as a freshman.

with u on that

rfc17
12-23-2009, 08:35 AM
AJ Green was the best WR this past year. He'll be the best WR next year. And if he stays for his senior year, he'll be the best WR that year as well.

superman8456
12-23-2009, 09:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZFAGUOxieI

This is what I think of when I think of DeAndre Brown.

ElectricEye
12-23-2009, 11:07 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZFAGUOxieI

This is what I think of when I think of DeAndre Brown.

He's come back from it slowly, but very well.

Mr.KnowItAll
12-23-2009, 11:20 AM
Does anyone else think deandre brown reminds them of plaxico burress?

RyanBraun8
12-23-2009, 07:07 PM
Yah I have seen Toon in person and he is built really well, much more muscular than the old man but I don't know everytime I have seen him it didn't really seem he was that much taller than me but I haven't seen him much since high school and his freshman (redshirt) year so I very well could be wrong. Next year I think he will have a monster season. As long as they have Clay and Ball running the ball with a big weapon at TE (Kendricks) he should see plenty of man to man coverage which he will dominate. His ball skills rank right up there with the best of them.

BuffaloBillsFan
12-23-2009, 11:10 PM
Michael Floyd's stock may take a small hit because of Clausen leaving for the draft, which leads me to believe that Floyd may stay in school for potentially two more years although yes, he should be in consideration for the 2011 draft and if he were to declare and be the same player that he was this year, then he should be a top 10 pick. He is an absolute burner, he reminds me of Lee Evans but half a foot taller and loads more potential.

hagy34
12-27-2009, 12:01 AM
Michael Floyd's stock may take a small hit because of Clausen leaving for the draft, which leads me to believe that Floyd may stay in school for potentially two more years although yes, he should be in consideration for the 2011 draft and if he were to declare and be the same player that he was this year, then he should be a top 10 pick. He is an absolute burner, he reminds me of Lee Evans but half a foot taller and loads more potential.

Yikes. Couple things here. First off, he's gone after next year. Losing his QB and his coach will have him looking for the door sooner than later. Also, Michael Floyd ISN'T a burner. Have you seen him play? He's a great prospect but the Lee Evans comparison is just awful.

Hines
12-27-2009, 04:12 AM
Jon Baldwin for me. I was on this kid's bandwagon since his senior season in high school. Not really fast, but has sneaky speed and will run by you. Great hands, great jumping ability, blocks, goes over the middle, strength. I personally want the Steelers to keep him home in the first round of the 2011 draft if he were to come out. He and Ben would have a field day with their other weapons.

FUNBUNCHER
12-27-2009, 04:43 AM
Jon Baldwin for me. I was on this kid's bandwagon since his senior season in high school. Not really fast, but has sneaky speed and will run by you. Great hands, great jumping ability, blocks, goes over the middle, strength. I personally want the Steelers to keep him home in the first round of the 2011 draft if he were to come out. He and Ben would have a field day with their other weapons.

I think Baldwin's timed speed is better than people give him credit for. In HS supposedly he was timed running a sub 4.4. At his size, if he can run anywhere under a 4.5 before the draft, I think he goes to the top of this class.

I wonder how many of these guys declare for the 2011 draft??

TitanHope
12-27-2009, 04:53 AM
I like A.J. Green the most out of all of them.

I'm firmly off the Julio Jones bandwagon, personally.

RealityCheck
12-27-2009, 10:36 AM
Why couldnt we trade last years 1st round for Seymour and draft a WR in next years draft!!! Damn you Al!!!
I wouldn't give a fist rounder for Seymour. The guy is aging.

JRTPlaya21
12-30-2009, 02:53 PM
A.J. Green is in no hurry to declare after next season.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20091228/ARTICLES/912281014/-1/NEWS10?Title=A-J-Green-returning-to-field-for-Georgia-FBC

superman8456
12-30-2009, 03:40 PM
A.J. Green is in no hurry to declare after next season.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20091228/ARTICLES/912281014/-1/NEWS10?Title=A-J-Green-returning-to-field-for-Georgia-FBC

You can't take it for granted because it can go any day, any play. Any play can be your last play.

After he said that, I'm not so sure what he plans on doing. That would leave me to believe he will probably forgo his senior season.

TitansCJftw
12-30-2009, 04:10 PM
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs017.snc3/12435_1292985572713_1472490064_30811476_541610_n.j pg