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ny10804
06-02-2006, 09:43 PM
Your thoughts?

thule
06-02-2006, 09:45 PM
If the supporting cast continues to play well, I don't see why not. He is very motivated, and I don't think well see him drop off. But it comes down to Walker/Posey/Williams

dRaFtDoRk
06-02-2006, 09:46 PM
I voted Yes, No Matter what due to Shaq'a expierence. He can handle it well I think, while no other team has been to the finals from the west.

ny10804
06-02-2006, 09:50 PM
If he get's his fourth, where would he rank in your list of the greatest players of all-time? I'd say between 5 and 12.

06-02-2006, 09:52 PM
If they play like they can, the Suns or the Mavs CANNOT stop them.

mav91
06-02-2006, 09:55 PM
i dont think so..either suns or mavs..but they do have a very good chance if it is the suns

if he won another ring he probably would be top 10 all time

06-02-2006, 09:56 PM
Both are terrible matchups for the Heat. So i say no.

ninerfan
06-02-2006, 09:57 PM
barring injury its in the bag

dRaFtDoRk
06-02-2006, 09:57 PM
barring injury its in the bag


Thats what I say, plus his expierence

Nelo Ice
06-02-2006, 09:59 PM
depends on matchup

if mavs win then heat will have a hard time winning
if suns win then heat will have an easy time winning

though personally id rather not see shaq win a ring not in a lakers uniform or the fact that if he wins a ring then the trade is extremely lopsided :? :(

06-02-2006, 10:01 PM
of course he will

06-02-2006, 10:04 PM
The Mavs will make Shaq run and play solid D. No one can guard Dirk.

detroit4life
06-02-2006, 10:04 PM
heat won't have an easy time. Mavs will give them a hard time because of matchups. SUns will give them a hard time beacuse of their style of play shaq will get tired running up and down the court

06-02-2006, 10:05 PM
The Mavs will make Shaq run and play solid D. No one can guard Dirk.Ike Diogu can in NBA Live

ny10804
06-02-2006, 10:07 PM
though personally id rather not see shaq win a ring not in a lakers uniform or the fact that if he wins a ring then the trade is extremely lopsided :? :(

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06-02-2006, 10:09 PM
though personally id rather not see shaq win a ring not in a lakers uniform or the fact that if he wins a ring then the trade is extremely lopsided :? :(

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Moses
06-02-2006, 10:11 PM
I think he will. Dwayne Wade/Shaq are the best 1-2 punch in the game right now. The supporting cast isn't horrible either.

iworshipbender
06-02-2006, 10:12 PM
though personally id rather not see shaq win a ring not in a lakers uniform or the fact that if he wins a ring then the trade is extremely lopsided :? :(

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ny10804
06-02-2006, 10:13 PM
I think he will. Dwayne Wade/Shaq are the best 1-2 punch in the game right now. The supporting cast isn't horrible either.

Kobe and Shaq 2000 vs. Dwayne and Shaq 2006

I'll go out on a limb and say Wade/Shaq.

Moses
06-02-2006, 10:14 PM
I think he will. Dwayne Wade/Shaq are the best 1-2 punch in the game right now. The supporting cast isn't horrible either.

Kobe and Shaq 2000 vs. Dwayne and Shaq 2006

I'll go out on a limb and say Wade/Shaq.

Kobe/Shaq were much more dominant. That was one of the best 1-2 punches of all-time. Can't argue with the rings.

dRaFtDoRk
06-02-2006, 10:14 PM
I think he will. Dwayne Wade/Shaq are the best 1-2 punch in the game right now. The supporting cast isn't horrible either.

Kobe and Shaq 2000 vs. Dwayne and Shaq 2006

I'll go out on a limb and say Wade/Shaq.

I would go with Kobe(Fro days) and Shaq.

keylime_5
06-02-2006, 10:18 PM
Mavs will win it all, but if they somehow drop to the Suns.....then the Suns win it all. I don't think the Heat are fast enough for the Western Conference teams and don't have an answer to Dirk's versatility.

Moses
06-02-2006, 10:19 PM
Mavs will win it all, but if they somehow drop to the Suns.....then the Suns win it all. I don't think the Heat are fast enough for the Western Conference teams and don't have an answer to Dirk's versatility.

The Mavs have an answer to Shaq?

Nerv
06-02-2006, 10:38 PM
Mavs will win it all, but if they somehow drop to the Suns.....then the Suns win it all. I don't think the Heat are fast enough for the Western Conference teams and don't have an answer to Dirk's versatility.

The Mavs have an answer to Shaq?

DeSagana Diop can probaly guard Shaq as well as anyone in the league. He is a defensive specialist at 7 foot nearly 300 lbs.

06-02-2006, 10:40 PM
Mavs will win it all, but if they somehow drop to the Suns.....then the Suns win it all. I don't think the Heat are fast enough for the Western Conference teams and don't have an answer to Dirk's versatility.

The Mavs have an answer to Shaq?

DeSagana Diop can probaly guard Shaq as well as anyone in the league. He is a defensive specialist at 7 foot nearly 300 lbs.

Dampier isn't to terrible either. KVH will also probably foul him a couple of time. but the real key will be be Howard, Daniels, Griffin doubling him.

Texico From Mexico
06-02-2006, 10:43 PM
If the Mavs get past the Suns its all over. Shaq will not have a prayer.

ny10804
06-02-2006, 10:50 PM
You seem to be forgetting no one man can guard Shaq (except for Dennis Rodman and his knee-up-@ss D)

06-02-2006, 10:51 PM
You seem to be forgetting no one man can guard Shaq (except for Dennis Rodman and his knee-up-@ss D)

No one can guard shaq from 2 years ago. Shaq is not the shaq of old.

Maroney22
06-02-2006, 10:52 PM
They would beat the Suns but not the Mavs. When Dirk is feeling it hes just unstoppable and if Diop can somewhat contain Shaq theyll win

Texico From Mexico
06-02-2006, 11:01 PM
Someone said....Do the Mavs have an answer for Shaq....I say, does the Heat have an answer for how deep Dallas is?

06-02-2006, 11:28 PM
Someone said....Do the Mavs have an answer for Shaq....I say, does the Heat have an answer for how deep Dallas is?

Probably they have great depth as well
Walker, Williams, Payton, Zo, Wade, Shaq, Posey, Haslem, Anderson.

TacticaLion
06-02-2006, 11:36 PM
Shaq is, in all honesty, a horrible basketball talent.

I cant stand to watch him play. Take a look at the highlights... watch how he posts. I call it the "swing-smack-set" method... where he swings his elbow into the opponent, turns and smacks the opponent with his off hand, and sets the ball into the basket. Is he productive? Yes. Is it easy to win with him? Yes. Does that make him good? NO! It makes him rare... not from his talent, but from his size... and I hate it.

*sigh*... go to hell, Shaq. Wade, on the other hand...

P-L
06-03-2006, 01:14 AM
Mavs will win it all, but if they somehow drop to the Suns.....then the Suns win it all. I don't think the Heat are fast enough for the Western Conference teams and don't have an answer to Dirk's versatility.

The Mavs have an answer to Shaq?

DeSagana Diop can probaly guard Shaq as well as anyone in the league. He is a defensive specialist at 7 foot nearly 300 lbs.

And he is also a liability on offense. Diop will get some minutes to guard Shaq but he won't play the majority of the game.

Also, neither team in the West have an answer to Wade. In fact very few teams in the NBA do.

yodabear
06-03-2006, 01:17 AM
I may be a pestimistic a-hole for my Heat, but No, no matter what. Especially against the Mavs. We were 0-2 against both of them, and the Mavs held us to an average of 84 points, the lowest of any of the 28 other teams.

Texico From Mexico
06-03-2006, 12:09 PM
Call me stupid but I have always thought Shaq was an under achiever. With his size and build he should be 10 times the player that he is. He cant hold a candle to Wilt or Jabbar at his position and that sad fact is....he should be better than both those two given his physical abilities.

The Heat better pray that the Suns beat the Mavs thats all I have to say. Otherwise its Series over in 5

Moses
06-03-2006, 12:22 PM
Shaq is, in all honesty, a horrible basketball talent.

I cant stand to watch him play. Take a look at the highlights... watch how he posts. I call it the "swing-smack-set" method... where he swings his elbow into the opponent, turns and smacks the opponent with his off hand, and sets the ball into the basket. Is he productive? Yes. Is it easy to win with him? Yes. Does that make him good? NO! It makes him rare... not from his talent, but from his size... and I hate it.

*sigh*... go to hell, Shaq. Wade, on the other hand...

That's like saying Vince Carter isn't talented because all he does is jump out of the gym and use his superior athleticism to beat players.

Xonraider
06-03-2006, 01:16 PM
I went to Heat - Hawks in March :D Go Heat!

Finsfan79
06-03-2006, 03:08 PM
yes, wade is a beast

06-03-2006, 03:09 PM
Not if Dirk keeps playing the way he has. Dallas in 7 after they put the suns away.

Nerv
06-03-2006, 03:15 PM
Shaq is, in all honesty, a horrible basketball talent.

I cant stand to watch him play. Take a look at the highlights... watch how he posts. I call it the "swing-smack-set" method... where he swings his elbow into the opponent, turns and smacks the opponent with his off hand, and sets the ball into the basket. Is he productive? Yes. Is it easy to win with him? Yes. Does that make him good? NO! It makes him rare... not from his talent, but from his size... and I hate it.

*sigh*... go to hell, Shaq. Wade, on the other hand...

That's like saying Vince Carter isn't talented because all he does is jump out of the gym and use his superior athleticism to beat players.

Yes but Ive seen Vince Carter make baskets further than 4 feet from the basket :)

Ive said it for years and I still stick to it, Shaq isn't all that talented. I would say about 60% of his made baskets are dunks, he is the biggest person to ever play the game. He never really developed a move outside of his baby hook that now a days he isnt even all that effective with. Never developed any kind of short to mid range jumper, a turn around from the post. He just relies on using his 340 lbs to push himself within 2-4 feet of the basket and an NBA player should shoot 50%+ from the field every year from that range.

I also beg to differ that the Mavs have no answer for Wade, the Mavs have more back court talent and depth than any team in the NBA. They can rotate Terry, Stackhouse, Daniels, Howard, Harris in and out of the game and on Wade. Not to mention Im not sure how well Antoine Walker & James Posey are going to match up to Dirk.

draftguru151
06-03-2006, 04:04 PM
You seem to be forgetting no one man can guard Shaq (except for Dennis Rodman and his knee-up-@ss D)

No one can guard shaq from 2 years ago. Shaq is not the shaq of old.

Did you see the last series? because I could have sworn it was the same old Shaq.

Yes, he will get his 4th ring, the Heat are beating whoever the play. No one can't stop the Heat right now. Riley did a great job putting this team together and we are clicking at the right time. GO HEAT!

And I predicted every game in the last series right, 6 for 6, and that was all before game 1.

Raiderz4Life
06-03-2006, 04:29 PM
Shaq has regresed some but he's still a force. He has proven he can carry a team on his shoulders, look at when he was with the magic. all that expirience will help him, if he can stay healthy. Add in D. Wade, and you got a KO 1-2 punch. I hated it when the Lakers tarded Shaq, in all honestly i would've rather much have them trade Kobe and not Shaq. And for those who say he's not very talented well you're right to a certain extent, Shaq's hands are massive so he can't really have a great handle on the ball to be able to shoot it from mid range shots. So, you use what you got, and what does he have? A massive 7'1" 300+ lbs. frame.
He will win the 4th ring.

draftguru151
06-03-2006, 04:31 PM
Shaq has regresed some but he's still a force. He has proven he can carry a team on his shoulders, look at when he was with the magic. all that expirience will help him, if he can stay healthy. Add in D. Wade, and you got a KO 1-2 punch. I hated it when the Lakers tarded Shaq, in all honestly i would've rather much have them trade Kobe and not Shaq. And for those who say he's not very talented well you're right to a certain extent, Shaq's hands are massive so he can't really have a great handle on the ball to be able to shoot it from mid range shots. So, you use what you got, and what does he have? A massive 7'1" 300+ lbs. frame.
He will win the 4th ring.

That is unstoppable.

06-03-2006, 04:35 PM
Shaq has regresed some but he's still a force. He has proven he can carry a team on his shoulders, look at when he was with the magic. all that expirience will help him, if he can stay healthy. Add in D. Wade, and you got a KO 1-2 punch. I hated it when the Lakers tarded Shaq, in all honestly i would've rather much have them trade Kobe and not Shaq. And for those who say he's not very talented well you're right to a certain extent, Shaq's hands are massive so he can't really have a great handle on the ball to be able to shoot it from mid range shots. So, you use what you got, and what does he have? A massive 7'1" 300+ lbs. frame.
He will win the 4th ring.

That is unstoppable.

Yep, he gets #4.

Nerv
06-03-2006, 04:40 PM
The Mavs match up very well against Miami in my opinion and I believe the NBA Finals will go to Dallas in 6.

06-03-2006, 04:49 PM
If the Suns somehow got Amare Stoudamire back for the finals the heat would not stand a chance.

The Mavs have the best chance of beating the heat because they have the ability to play Shaq one on one and defenders to contain D-Wade.

draftguru151
06-03-2006, 04:54 PM
If the Suns somehow got Amare Stoudamire back for the finals the heat would not stand a chance.

The Mavs have the best chance of beating the heat because they have the ability to play Shaq one on one and defenders to contain D-Wade.

Please explain to me who is going to stop Shaq one on one on the Mavs, and please don't say Dampier, not Erick Dampier. And the only thing that can stop D Wade is the flu.

Nerv
06-03-2006, 05:00 PM
If the Suns somehow got Amare Stoudamire back for the finals the heat would not stand a chance.

The Mavs have the best chance of beating the heat because they have the ability to play Shaq one on one and defenders to contain D-Wade.

Please explain to me who is going to stop Shaq one on one on the Mavs, and please don't say Dampier, not Erick Dampier. And the only thing that can stop D Wade is the flu.

You don't have to stop Shaq, no one is going to shut Shaq down. Diop is a defensive specialist and they don't need his scoring, between him and Dampier that is a lot of size & strength that is purely for throwing at Shaq on defense.

What is Shaq going to do on the pick and rolls with Devin Harris & Jason Terry? Those two arent Chauncey Billups and the Detroit Pistons, they will go straight and hard to the hole and not stand at the top of the key and allow Shaq to hedge and jog back.

06-03-2006, 05:00 PM
If the Suns somehow got Amare Stoudamire back for the finals the heat would not stand a chance.

The Mavs have the best chance of beating the heat because they have the ability to play Shaq one on one and defenders to contain D-Wade.

Please explain to me who is going to stop Shaq one on one on the Mavs, and please don't say Dampier, not Erick Dampier. And the only thing that can stop D Wade is the flu.

Erick Dampier earned his contact from his defense of Shaq. Diop,Dampier and they have another big body to throw at shaq. Adrain Griffin, Josh Howard and Marquis Daniel are all good defenders. plus the mavs play good team defense

draftguru151
06-03-2006, 05:10 PM
If the Suns somehow got Amare Stoudamire back for the finals the heat would not stand a chance.

The Mavs have the best chance of beating the heat because they have the ability to play Shaq one on one and defenders to contain D-Wade.

Please explain to me who is going to stop Shaq one on one on the Mavs, and please don't say Dampier, not Erick Dampier. And the only thing that can stop D Wade is the flu.

Erick Dampier earned his contact from his defense of Shaq. Diop,Dampier and they have another big body to throw at shaq. Adrain Griffin, Josh Howard and Marquis Daniel are all good defenders. plus the mavs play good team defense

The Mavs play better team defense than they used to, but they still don't play anywhere near as good team D than the Pistons. And the other big body is going to be our for half the series isn't he. Diop is a good shot blocker, but has he gone against Shaq? We will have to wait and see, and thats if the Mavs get out of their series, which I think they will.

ny10804
06-03-2006, 08:11 PM
Let's just get this out of the way: if the Defensive Player of the Year and a double can't guard Shaq, who can? No one, especially when push comes to shove in the finals. Shaq's body isn't what it used to be, which is why he has played less minutes and less phsically in the regular season. This allows for him to go all-out in the playoffs. The Heat will win the finals.

stephenson86
06-03-2006, 08:13 PM
yes he will

Texico From Mexico
06-04-2006, 06:41 AM
This thread is funny...the Mavs do not have to have an answer for Shaq, the Heat will have no answer for the Mavs as a Team. The Mavs already beat the best team in the NBA and that was San Antonio, then they beat the liitle fast break team. I think this will be a cakewalk for the Mavs, and nowhere near as hard as the San Antonio series.

Consider it a DONE DEAL people....and give the Mavs thier due!

ATLDirtyBirds
06-04-2006, 09:50 AM
Yes, Shaq will get his ring, as Miami wins in 6.

draftguru151
06-04-2006, 10:03 AM
This thread is funny...the Mavs do not have to have an answer for Shaq, the Heat will have no answer for the Mavs as a Team. The Mavs already beat the best team in the NBA and that was San Antonio, then they beat the liitle fast break team. I think this will be a cakewalk for the Mavs, and nowhere near as hard as the San Antonio series.

Consider it a DONE DEAL people....and give the Mavs thier due!

Just a question, did you watch the pistons series? There isn't a team in the league, not the Mavs, not San Antonio, that can stop that team. It's classic diesel, the shimmy shake, white chocolate, Zo, the glove, Haslem, Posey... and I'm forgetting someone, oh yea, the unstoppable force that is Dwayne Wade. This series isn't gonna be close.

Tex, what happened to LenDale "top 10 talent" White?

One question, who has homecourt?

Texico From Mexico
06-04-2006, 11:39 AM
This thread is funny...the Mavs do not have to have an answer for Shaq, the Heat will have no answer for the Mavs as a Team. The Mavs already beat the best team in the NBA and that was San Antonio, then they beat the liitle fast break team. I think this will be a cakewalk for the Mavs, and nowhere near as hard as the San Antonio series.

Consider it a DONE DEAL people....and give the Mavs thier due!

Just a question, did you watch the pistons series? There isn't a team in the league, not the Mavs, not San Antonio, that can stop that team. It's classic diesel, the shimmy shake, white chocolate, Zo, the glove, Haslem, Posey... and I'm forgetting someone, oh yea, the unstoppable force that is Dwayne Wade. This series isn't gonna be close.

Tex, what happened to LenDale "top 10 talent" White?

One question, who has homecourt?

DING....time to sound the idiot alert!!!! We have a winner folks.....


Hey shouldnt you be out somewhere trying to figure out

Why the Dolphins have not won a Superbowl since 1974!


If you do not know who has home court then you need to back away from the computer and never be allowed on this board ever again you fool!!

We have home court!!!!

06-04-2006, 12:39 PM
This thread is funny...the Mavs do not have to have an answer for Shaq, the Heat will have no answer for the Mavs as a Team. The Mavs already beat the best team in the NBA and that was San Antonio, then they beat the liitle fast break team. I think this will be a cakewalk for the Mavs, and nowhere near as hard as the San Antonio series.

Consider it a DONE DEAL people....and give the Mavs thier due!

Just a question, did you watch the pistons series? There isn't a team in the league, not the Mavs, not San Antonio, that can stop that team. It's classic diesel, the shimmy shake, white chocolate, Zo, the glove, Haslem, Posey... and I'm forgetting someone, oh yea, the unstoppable force that is Dwayne Wade. This series isn't gonna be close.

Tex, what happened to LenDale "top 10 talent" White?

One question, who has homecourt?

DING....time to sound the idiot alert!!!! We have a winner folks.....


Hey shouldnt you be out somewhere trying to figure out

Why the Dolphins have not won a Superbowl since 1974!


If you do not know who has home court then you need to back away from the computer and never be allowed on this board ever again you fool!!

We have home court!!!!

D-Wade owned D-Ha in the college battles therefore Heat win

draftguru151
06-04-2006, 12:41 PM
Why because I didn't know who had home court?

Don't be upset because you don't know anything about your own team the Cowboys and because the Mavs are going to lose in the finals.

Congratulations on the stupidest post ever. I'm an idiot because I don't know who has homecourt? Honestly how dumb are you. He lets stop talking about the past, especially since Miami is one of the best teams in the AFC and you guys are probably going to finish in the bottom half of your division.

P-L
06-04-2006, 01:21 PM
This thread is funny...the Mavs do not have to have an answer for Shaq, the Heat will have no answer for the Mavs as a Team. The Mavs already beat the best team in the NBA and that was San Antonio, then they beat the liitle fast break team. I think this will be a cakewalk for the Mavs, and nowhere near as hard as the San Antonio series.

Consider it a DONE DEAL people....and give the Mavs thier due!

Just a question, did you watch the pistons series? There isn't a team in the league, not the Mavs, not San Antonio, that can stop that team. It's classic diesel, the shimmy shake, white chocolate, Zo, the glove, Haslem, Posey... and I'm forgetting someone, oh yea, the unstoppable force that is Dwayne Wade. This series isn't gonna be close.

Tex, what happened to LenDale "top 10 talent" White?

One question, who has homecourt?

DING....time to sound the idiot alert!!!! We have a winner folks.....


Hey shouldnt you be out somewhere trying to figure out

Why the Dolphins have not won a Superbowl since 1974!


If you do not know who has home court then you need to back away from the computer and never be allowed on this board ever again you fool!!

We have home court!!!!
You're the bigger idiot. If you have to react in such a childish way to his comment then you should never post here again. The sad thing is you are probably in your 20's but act like you're 12.

Nerv
06-04-2006, 01:23 PM
Actually the stupidest post of the year is a tie between when Draftguru said the Mavs have no chance to stop Miami and when Tex said Miami has no chance of beating the Mavs. Stop being such homers. This is going to be a close series but I think it belongs to the Mavericks. The Mavs are a whole different monster than what Miami has been seeing, they can rotate 6 guys at the 1-3 spots who could all drop 20 and light you up, not to mention that is on top of Dirk Nowitski.

Miami fans seem to think its in the bag since they beat Detroit, newsflash, Mavericks are playing many times better than the Pistons and are definately a better overall team with the size as well as depth and scoring to beat anyone.

Texico From Mexico
06-04-2006, 01:34 PM
This thread is funny...the Mavs do not have to have an answer for Shaq, the Heat will have no answer for the Mavs as a Team. The Mavs already beat the best team in the NBA and that was San Antonio, then they beat the liitle fast break team. I think this will be a cakewalk for the Mavs, and nowhere near as hard as the San Antonio series.

Consider it a DONE DEAL people....and give the Mavs thier due!

Just a question, did you watch the pistons series? There isn't a team in the league, not the Mavs, not San Antonio, that can stop that team. It's classic diesel, the shimmy shake, white chocolate, Zo, the glove, Haslem, Posey... and I'm forgetting someone, oh yea, the unstoppable force that is Dwayne Wade. This series isn't gonna be close.

Tex, what happened to LenDale "top 10 talent" White?

One question, who has homecourt?

DING....time to sound the idiot alert!!!! We have a winner folks.....


Hey shouldnt you be out somewhere trying to figure out

Why the Dolphins have not won a Superbowl since 1974!


If you do not know who has home court then you need to back away from the computer and never be allowed on this board ever again you fool!!

We have home court!!!!
You're the bigger idiot. If you have to react in such a childish way to his comment then you should never post here again. The sad thing is you are probably in your 20's but act like you're 12.

I know you are not talking to me.... :lol: If you are you should know better.