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RealityCheck
12-27-2009, 10:30 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/news/story?id=4773500

SAN FRANCISCO -- USC junior defensive end Everson Griffen said after Saturday night's 24-13 Emerald Bowl victory over Boston College that he will skip his senior season to enter the 2010 NFL Draft.

"I've known for a while," Griffen said.

Griffen, who has rare speed for a 6-foot-3, 280-pounder, is viewed in most draft projections as a late-first or early-second round selection.

"I'm ready," Griffen told ESPN.com's Joe Schad. "I know it's the right decision because I've talked it over with my coaches. I will bring speed, a pass rush and the ability to stop the run."

Griffen injured his ankle in Saturday's game and watched much of it from the sideline.

"I think I was prepared for this game, but stuff happens and I've just got to bounce back and be strong," Griffen said.

He made the All-Pac-10 second team this season, recording 44 tackles and a team-high eight sacks.

Junior receiver Damian Williams, who was the game's offensive MVP with 189 receiving yards, said he is undecided about whether he will return for his senior season. Williams said he will fly home to Arkansas Sunday and talk it over with his family.

Most observers expect Williams to enter the upcoming draft.

Junior running back Allen Bradford said he will return.

Don Vito
12-27-2009, 10:54 AM
The more pass rushers the better.

superman8456
12-27-2009, 11:03 AM
The more pass rushers the better.

Sadly it doesnt help where he will be drafted though. His combine is HUGE to him after a somewhat disappointing bowl game.

bored of education
12-27-2009, 11:17 AM
he is gona be a beast, end up in the top 15

Brent
12-27-2009, 11:33 AM
Glad to see Allen Bradford staying; I like what I saw last night.

Babylon
12-27-2009, 11:46 AM
He'll look good at the combine. Disappears at times but great potential.

619
12-27-2009, 11:46 AM
I'm not surprised by this decision. The decision that will truly impact us is Damian Williams' for our young QB's sake. We could be losing a **** load of talent on offense and we all saw what that did to our defense this season. I would respect him if he came out though, because I don't feel we have legitimate NC aspirations with an inconsistent sophomore QB surrounded by an inexperienced supporting cast.

RaiderNation
12-27-2009, 12:47 PM
Top 20 talent. Id love for him to drop to the 2nd though

fenikz
12-27-2009, 01:44 PM
Most likely won't be available for Arizona when we pick but I would love to have him, he just helps the depth of the class

Thumper
12-27-2009, 02:01 PM
Eagles plz?

brat316
12-27-2009, 02:14 PM
3-4 DE? or 4-3 DE and UT

Bengals78
12-27-2009, 02:18 PM
3-4 DE? or 4-3 DE and UT

I dont think he would make a good 3-4 DE. Maybe a 3-4 OLB and 4-3 DE.
I would say he looks like a great prospect, but Frostee still has me bitter on USC DE's. Though I wouldnt completely upset with him in stripes.

Babylon
12-27-2009, 02:28 PM
I dont think he would make a good 3-4 DE. Maybe a 3-4 OLB and 4-3 DE.
I would say he looks like a great prospect, but Frostee still has me bitter on USC DE's. Though I wouldnt completely upset with him in stripes.

Still waiting on Lawrence Jackson too. Would agree not a 3-4 DE.

Bengals78
12-27-2009, 02:31 PM
USC = Linebackers...wouldn't touch much else from there these days on defense lol.

RealityCheck
12-27-2009, 02:37 PM
Expect both Griffen and Williams to go in the middle of the 2nd.

brat316
12-27-2009, 03:14 PM
I see Griffen is one of those special monster DE...ala Peppers, Mario.

Griffen will go in the first round, with such a weak secondary class.

WMD
12-27-2009, 03:50 PM
I see Griffen is one of those special monster DE...ala Peppers, Mario.

Griffen will go in the first round, with such a weak secondary class.
I don't know about the Peppers/Mario thing but I think he could be a Terrell Suggs type for a 3-4 Team.

fenikz
12-27-2009, 03:58 PM
I don't know about the Peppers/Mario thing but I think he could be a Terrell Suggs type for a 3-4 Team.

i agree, strange that both are arizona products

brat316
12-27-2009, 04:05 PM
Griffen is big though 6-3 280, compared to Suggs at 6-3 260, but I guess he can slim down to 270.

soybean
12-27-2009, 04:54 PM
USC = Linebackers...wouldn't touch much else from there these days on defense lol.

Terrell Thomas?

Bengals78
12-27-2009, 06:57 PM
Terrell Thomas?

One, and I will give Ellis credit too.
So thats 2 so far.

Maualuga, Cushing, Matthews, Rivers, Lofa, heck I even think the kid on the Browns (Mavaia sp?) is gonna be a solid player.
Recently who else has there been on defense that isnt a linebacker?

Ooooh, isnt Seau with the Pats again? lol

TheSlinger
12-27-2009, 07:16 PM
I would love for Griffen to wind up with the Jags, I've been warming up to him as the best pass rusher in the draft.

Sniper
12-27-2009, 07:20 PM
Recently who else has there been on defense that isnt a linebacker?

http://moondogsports.com/wp-content/gallery/misc-sports/troypolamalu.jpg

brat316
12-27-2009, 08:06 PM
Steve Smith
Troy
Patterson
Baker
Bush
Cassel
Palmer

Sniper
12-27-2009, 08:10 PM
Reading certainly helps.

socentre44
12-27-2009, 08:15 PM
One, and I will give Ellis credit too.
So thats 2 so far.

Maualuga, Cushing, Matthews, Rivers, Lofa, heck I even think the kid on the Browns (Mavaia sp?) is gonna be a solid player.
Recently who else has there been on defense that isnt a linebacker?

Ooooh, isnt Seau with the Pats again? lol

Troy Polamalu is an obvious omission. Kevin Ellison will have a decent career a safety. Mike Patterson is an underrated DT. Shaun Cody is becoming a solid pro with the Texans. LaJuan Ramsey is still in the league lol.

Kyle Moore and Fili Moala are still to be determined. I have no idea what's going on with Lawrence Jackson, but I know the Seahawks do rotate their DEs.

I wouldn't ignore SC's current DL...the best NFL defensive prospects currently on SC's roster are on the DL. Armond Armstead, Malik Jackson, Nick Perry, Devon Kennard and Jurrell Casey will all be in the running as early round picks over the next couple years. Outside of those guys, Shareece Wright will be a top prospect.

Hines
12-27-2009, 08:21 PM
Dude was freaky scary in high school. Good to see him playing very well. Top 20 talent.

socentre44
12-27-2009, 08:31 PM
Troy Polamalu is an obvious omission. Kevin Ellison will have a decent career a safety. Mike Patterson is an underrated DT. Shaun Cody is becoming a solid pro with the Texans. LaJuan Ramsey is still in the league lol.

Kyle Moore and Fili Moala are still to be determined. I have no idea what's going on with Lawrence Jackson, but I know the Seahawks do rotate their DEs.

I wouldn't ignore SC's current DL...the best NFL defensive prospects currently on SC's roster are on the DL. Armond Armstead, Malik Jackson, Nick Perry, Devon Kennard and Jurrell Casey will all be in the running as early round picks over the next couple years. Outside of those guys, Shareece Wright will be a top prospect.

If Eric Wright wasn't a moron and got kicked out of school, I would include him too.

DreadedDatSkinsFan
12-27-2009, 11:53 PM
I wish USC would've kept Allen Bradford on defense...him playin safety would have been sick!

RealityCheck
12-28-2009, 09:17 AM
A question for you guys: What's better for Griffen? Staying at the 3-4 DE range or slimming down to be a 3-4 OLB/4-3 DE?

eagles6606
12-28-2009, 09:27 AM
Griffen should be either a 4-3 DE or 3-4 OLB. His best fit is probobally 4-3 DE

CC.SD
12-28-2009, 01:00 PM
Dude, do not compare Frostee or Lawrence to Everson Griffin, they are nowhere close to him as prospects. Everyone is seeing the 280 number and immediately thoughts are going to 3-4 DE...es non necessario. Griffin is huge and overpowering but also has legit burst around the corner, and that's like gold in the draft. His measurables will fight him into the top 10/15. A little sorry to see him declare but I think he'll beast in the NFL.

Saints-Tigers
12-28-2009, 01:49 PM
Dude, do not compare Frostee or Lawrence to Everson Griffin, they are nowhere close to him as prospects. Everyone is seeing the 280 number and immediately thoughts are going to 3-4 DE...es non necessario. Griffin is huge and overpowering but also has legit burst around the corner, and that's like gold in the draft. His measurables will fight him into the top 10/15. A little sorry to see him declare but I think he'll beast in the NFL.

Exactly.

Griffin is closer to being a Dwight Freeney type than a 3-4 end. He's short and stout, but he has an amazing burst.

nepg
12-28-2009, 02:12 PM
Griffen has the Merriman body type and position conundrum (he's a 3-4 OLB who can play 4-3 DE or 4-3 UT). I don't know about him though...I just don't know...

GhostDeini
12-28-2009, 02:43 PM
How's Lawrence Jackson doing these days ?

Sniper
12-28-2009, 02:45 PM
How's Lawrence Jackson doing these days ?

Jackson and Griffen have completely different playing styles, so one has nothing to do with the other besides the fact that they're black DEs from USC.

Babylon
12-28-2009, 03:37 PM
How's Lawrence Jackson doing these days ?

4 1/2 sacks, seems to be nicked up a lot. Still like him as a 4-3 DE so not ready to give up on him after being a late 1st round pick.

MilesAustin4MVP
12-28-2009, 04:26 PM
Seems like he could pack on a few pounds and play 3-4 DE

no bare feet
12-28-2009, 04:29 PM
I don't see griffen at all as a 3-4 de

Sniper
12-28-2009, 04:35 PM
Seems like he could pack on a few pounds and play 3-4 DE

If you want to take away his best assets, then yes, this is a genius plan.

RaiderNation
12-28-2009, 04:49 PM
For some reason I see him going to a 3-4team as a OLB.

fenikz
12-28-2009, 05:04 PM
I would fully expect that Griffen cuts some weight and goes for a more athletic build for the combine could come in as low as 260, and it wouldn't shock me if he runs in the high 4.5s

RaiderNation
12-28-2009, 05:06 PM
I would fully expect that Griffen cuts some weight and goes for a more athletic build for the combine could come in as low as 260, and it wouldn't shock me if he runs in the high 4.5s

Looks like he will be a raider than

MilesAustin4MVP
12-28-2009, 05:49 PM
If you want to take away his best assets, then yes, this is a genius plan.


In our one gap scheme in Dallas he would fit in well. Our Nose tackle, Ratliff, could probably play DE in a 4-3 if he really had to.

Babylon
12-28-2009, 06:24 PM
I would fully expect that Griffen cuts some weight and goes for a more athletic build for the combine could come in as low as 260, and it wouldn't shock me if he runs in the high 4.5s

If he runs high 4.5s at the combine his stock will go through the roof. I dont expect that to happen.

Me Likey Rookies
12-28-2009, 06:56 PM
to everyone thinking he should be a 3-4 DE, watch this video. he played 3-4 OLB a lot this year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNzSE9q0R3k

fenikz
12-28-2009, 07:35 PM
If he runs high 4.5s at the combine his stock will go through the roof. I dont expect that to happen.

He has been clocked as low as 4.54 at 280, obviously it was a pro day and not 100% reliable but there is a decent chance if is told by scouts that they see him as a 3-4 olb that he could cut weight and run in the 4.5s

Babylon
12-28-2009, 08:41 PM
He has been clocked as low as 4.54 at 280, obviously it was a pro day and not 100% reliable but there is a decent chance if is told by scouts that they see him as a 3-4 olb that he could cut weight and run in the 4.5s

We know USC pro days are skewed to say the least. You may be right but color me skeptical. 4.5s would be faster than Cushing, Matthews and Mauuluga.

CC.SD
12-28-2009, 08:47 PM
There's no way Griffen runs a 4.5. Mid-high 4.6 sounds about right. I bet his 10 yard is stellar though.

Shane P. Hallam
12-28-2009, 08:49 PM
There's no way Griffen runs a 4.5. Mid-high 4.6 sounds about right. I bet his 10 yard is stellar though.

That will be the big question, if he can sustain it for 40 yards. To be honest, I think his cone numbers will look good and a 4.55-4.6 would be great for him.

Babylon
12-28-2009, 08:53 PM
That will be the big question, if he can sustain it for 40 yards. To be honest, I think his cone numbers will look good and a 4.55-4.6 would be great for him.

Any number starting with a 4.5... would be faster than every lb at the combine this year except Aaron Curry.

bengalbuck
12-29-2009, 12:35 AM
I'm not a huge fan of this guy. He was a bigtime recruit but never really put it together on the field. For that reason, I don't think there is any way he is even in the discussion with guys like Mario Williams, Peppers, Freeney and Suggs who all had 15+ sack seasons in college.

He's probably more similar to guys like Michael Johnson and Calais Campbell, etc. who were great athletes with only moderate production. As a Bengals fan, I loved the pick of Johnson in the 3rd. At that point the risk is worth it. In my opinion, I wouldn't take a guy like him in the first round whose production didn't match his talent. Basically, high risk/high reward and not worth it early.

Brent
12-29-2009, 12:42 AM
That will be the big question, if he can sustain it for 40 yards.
why would that be the big question?

CC.SD
12-29-2009, 12:49 AM
I'm not a huge fan of this guy. He was a bigtime recruit but never really put it together on the field. For that reason, I don't think there is any way he is even in the discussion with guys like Mario Williams, Peppers, Freeney and Suggs who all had 15+ sack seasons in college.

He's probably more similar to guys like Michael Johnson and Calais Campbell, etc. who were great athletes with only moderate production. As a Bengals fan, I loved the pick of Johnson in the 3rd. At that point the risk is worth it. In my opinion, I wouldn't take a guy like him in the first round whose production didn't match his talent. Basically, high risk/high reward and not worth it early.

He had 7 sacks this year and a ton of hurries. That's production. Maybe not to match his talent level but he's hardly the first prospect to come out with more potential than previously seen.