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soybean
01-05-2010, 01:51 AM
Who ya got???

just kidding. I hope no one really picks Chris Johnson.

I cant believe representatives are actually trying to push this.

I heard on ESPN radio that they timed Usain Bolt on an 80 yard sprint.

They said his first 40 yards he ran a 3.75 and on the last 40 yards he ran a 2.9.

Its a no win situation for Usain Bolt, what is there for him to prove.

Chris Johnson is fast but cmon man.

TitanHope
01-05-2010, 01:58 AM
Bolt would win, but CJ has permanent gold teeth. They're both winners here.

cunningham06
01-05-2010, 02:06 AM
Who ya got???

just kidding. I hope no one really picks Chris Johnson.

I cant believe representatives are actually trying to push this.

I heard on ESPN radio that they timed Usain Bolt on an 80 yard sprint.

They said his first 40 yards he ran a 3.75 and on the last 40 yards he ran a 2.9.

Its a no win situation for Usain Bolt, what is there for him to prove.

Chris Johnson is fast but cmon man.

A 3.75 in his first 40 yards??? I've heard that being the time of the last 40 yards in Bolt's hundred meter dash, but I have a hard time believing Bolt is .5 faster than CJ. I absolutely believe Bolt's faster, but I don't think the gap's that wide.

Bosanac01
01-05-2010, 02:42 AM
all bolt does is run, i believe it.

TitansCJftw
01-05-2010, 02:45 AM
dude check my name even im not foolish enough to believe cj could beat bolt we are talking about the fastest person in the history of humans, throw some pads on em and it might get interesting though :D

Cicero
01-05-2010, 03:01 AM
This is all a ploy in attempt to get Al Davis to have a heart attack after he sees Bolt's 40.

Shane P. Hallam
01-05-2010, 04:30 AM
How long is the race? 10-20 yards, Tennesspeed would have a shot. But not 40+.

DoughBoy
01-05-2010, 06:04 AM
I vote CJ!!!! Bolt is faster though.

AntoinCD
01-05-2010, 07:02 AM
I read somewhere, can't remember where, that CJs 40 at the combine was actually faster than the first 40 of Bolts in the 100m. Bolt takes over in the middle of the race but anything up to 40 between the two would be close.

Paul
01-05-2010, 07:47 AM
Bolt does this **** for a living.

Addict
01-05-2010, 08:24 AM
maybe CJ gets off the line, but Bolt's top-end speed is insanely high. If the course is really, reallly short then MAYBE CJ has a shot. But IMO Bolt would kick his ass at any distance longer than 30 yards.

LizardState
01-05-2010, 08:51 AM
I saw that on ESPN too & thought Hey, it's way too early for April Fools isn't it?

Bolt is like 6-5 too, freakishly fast for someone that tall.

SeanTaylorRIP
01-05-2010, 09:19 AM
I read somewhere, can't remember where, that CJs 40 at the combine was actually faster than the first 40 of Bolts in the 100m. Bolt takes over in the middle of the race but anything up to 40 between the two would be close.

But obviously Bolt's first 40 isn't his fastest 40. He is running a 100, he doesn't pick it up until 50+. It's not fair to compare someone running there hardest 40, vs. someone who's 40 is just the start of his race. It's like comparing someone's 400 meter time to someone's first lap of a 1500.

Jughead10
01-05-2010, 09:26 AM
But obviously Bolt's first 40 isn't his fastest 40. He is running a 100, he doesn't pick it up until 50+. It's not fair to compare someone running there hardest 40, vs. someone who's 40 is just the start of his race. It's like comparing someone's 400 meter time to someone's first lap of a 1500.

Not entirely true. When running the 100 meters, it's not like you are saving yourself for the second half of the race. It's just an all out sprint. Bolt is so good because he just has that extra gear no one else has. It really isn't like comparing someone's 400 meter to the first lap of a 1500.

prock
01-05-2010, 11:07 AM
chris johnson has no shot. absolutely zero shot.

prock
01-05-2010, 11:08 AM
Not entirely true. When running the 100 meters, it's not like you are saving yourself for the second half of the race. It's just an all out sprint. Bolt is so good because he just has that extra gear no one else has. It really isn't like comparing someone's 400 meter to the first lap of a 1500.

and yes it is entirely true. you are accelerating for a few steps in the first fourty. the next fourty you are already full speed. you arent saving your self for the second half of the sprint, but you are not going as fast for the first 40.

Jughead10
01-05-2010, 11:10 AM
and yes it is entirely true. you are accelerating for a few steps in the first fourty. the next fourty you are already full speed. you arent saving your self for the second half of the sprint, but you are not going as fast for the first 40.

Of course. I'm just saying if Chris Johnson by some chance actually has a faster 40 than Bolt, it's not because Bolt was saving himself for the rest of his 100 meters. But I don't think it's true anyway.

Addict
01-05-2010, 11:10 AM
Bolt is a natural for the 200 metres, with a top speed insanely high enough to also dominate the 100 metres. I wouldn't be surprised if on the very short distance Johnson is faster. It's just that once Bolt is on pace he's lightning fast.

That said Johnson still won't touch Bolt.

noondog
01-05-2010, 11:21 AM
But obviously Bolt's first 40 isn't his fastest 40. He is running a 100, he doesn't pick it up until 50+. It's not fair to compare someone running there hardest 40, vs. someone who's 40 is just the start of his race. It's like comparing someone's 400 meter time to someone's first lap of a 1500.

They start really picking up when they're out of the "blast-off" phase of the race...usually around the 30m mark.

I could see CJ taking an early lead...shorter steps = faster acceleration. Bolt would definitely win though.

Hawk
01-05-2010, 11:28 AM
3.75 forty?? I don't believe that. Justin Gatlin ran a 9.85 100m and a 4.42 forty. Bolt ran a 9.58 100m, I don't think he ran a 3.75. That's unreal.

Addict
01-05-2010, 11:33 AM
as for Bolt: his 6'5" frame comes in handy, he runs the 100 metres in 41 steps, others take 44.

Also Bolt's split times for the 9.69 100 metres he ran in Bejing (he improved his own record to 9.58 in Berlin)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ua8ycqfc4ok/SKgWoF6lk9I/AAAAAAAAA08/LZfg0xtqGqk/s320/100m+splits+and+speed+table.gif

it's in metres, 40 yards = 36.57 metres.

619
01-05-2010, 11:34 AM
I remember former 100M world record holder Donovan Bailey once saying he ran a 3.84 forty, so Bolt's time could be legit.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
01-05-2010, 12:08 PM
Something to keep in mind though if you take Bolt's first 40 yards, he's starting out of sprinting blocks, NFL players don't get that luxury.

bantx
01-05-2010, 12:21 PM
I'm sure bolt runs 60 m events too even if he didn't bolt > cj lets be real now.

tjsunstein
01-05-2010, 12:25 PM
I'm rooting for Johnson, but Bolt will likely win.

Addict
01-05-2010, 12:35 PM
I'm rooting for Johnson, but Bolt will likely win.

you do realize that if Johnson wins titans fans will NEVER let us forget it, right?

TACKLE
01-05-2010, 06:01 PM
How long is the race? 10-20 yards, Tennesspeed would have a shot. But not 40+.

I totally agree. I have a hard time believing that he doesn't have elite short distance acceleration even compared to world-class sprinters. NFL players are world-class accelerators and CJ is the fastest of all of them. When considering forty times, remember CJ ran a 4.24 on a slow track in Indy. Think how fast he could have run on a track, with track spikes, coming off the blocks out of a four-point. Bolt would still beat him in a 40 but a 20 would be pretty damn close.

Also, there is not way in hell that runs a 3.75. You can't just take his time and and divide it to get his 40 time. It doesn't work that way. Bolt is also not one of the fastest off the blocks (relatively). Its his long speed that kills everybody.

soybean
01-05-2010, 06:09 PM
I totally agree. I have a hard time believing that he doesn't have elite short distance acceleration even compared to world-class sprinters. NFL players are world-class accelerators and CJ is the fastest of all of them. When considering forty times, remember CJ ran a 4.24 on a slow track in Indy. Think how fast he could have run on a track, with track spikes, coming off the blocks out of a four-point. Bolt would still beat him in a 40 but a 20 would be pretty damn close.

Also, there is not way in hell that runs a 3.75. You can't just take his time and and divide it to get his 40 time. It doesn't work that way. Bolt is also not one of the fastest off the blocks (relatively). Its his long speed that kills everybody.

why exactly can't you do that?

TACKLE
01-05-2010, 06:12 PM
why exactly can't you do that?

Because his time from 0m-40m is going to be significantly slower than his time from 40m-100m. 40-100 is when he is at full speed though this speed is irrelevant when it comes to figuring out his 40 time.

soybean
01-05-2010, 06:12 PM
Because his time from 0m-40m is going to be significantly slower than his time from 40m-100m. 40-100 is when he is at full speed though this speed is irrelevant when it comes to figuring out his 40 time.

3.75 was his first 40 yards.

Paranoidmoonduck
01-05-2010, 06:15 PM
I think you give Bolt even a little time to change his technique to match a 40 yard dash instead of a 100 meter run and he smokes everyone in the NFL without close to a problem. Let's be serious here for a second. Chris Johnson is damn fast, but Bolt has completely crushed world records.

Twiddler
01-05-2010, 06:24 PM
If Bolt would train for the 40 it wouldn't be close. Johnson is damn fast, but watching Bolt turn on the jets makes him seem almost unhuman.

Jvig43
01-05-2010, 06:33 PM
Lets remeber Bolt broke world records coasting across the finish line. Imagine had he gone 100% all the way through. I'm a sprinter, and I seriously doubt Johnson would stand a chance, and thats not even a knock on Johnson.

Babylon
01-05-2010, 06:44 PM
But obviously Bolt's first 40 isn't his fastest 40. He is running a 100, he doesn't pick it up until 50+. It's not fair to compare someone running there hardest 40, vs. someone who's 40 is just the start of his race. It's like comparing someone's 400 meter time to someone's first lap of a 1500.

What he said.

B-Dawk
01-05-2010, 07:26 PM
dont forget reaction time, timing at the combine starts on movement giving the edge there

Jughead10
01-05-2010, 10:31 PM
Lets remeber Bolt broke world records coasting across the finish line. Imagine had he gone 100% all the way through. I'm a sprinter, and I seriously doubt Johnson would stand a chance, and thats not even a knock on Johnson.

Also running at the fast track indoors at the combine, where as Bolt broke records outdoors. Great conditions still but that has to be good for a few fractions of a second.

sweetness34
01-07-2010, 12:32 AM
How about a 40 yard dash instead? That might be a little more competitive. Bolt would just murder Johnson from 50 meters on with his stride length. Johnson has that quick initial burst, which suits him better for the 40 against Bolt.

bearfan
01-07-2010, 04:28 AM
I vote for America on this one

aNYtitan
01-07-2010, 11:15 PM
you do realize that if Johnson wins titans fans will NEVER let us forget it, right?

Probably not, cause he would be the fastest man alive, thats worth something. Fastest man in gear today

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
01-07-2010, 11:21 PM
I don't think Bolt would accept anything less than 60m. He is the one with everything to lose here, everyone expects him to win easily. CJ has nothing to lose at all. Bolt would never accept something that would benefit CJ more than him.

Hawk
01-08-2010, 11:49 AM
as for Bolt: his 6'5" frame comes in handy, he runs the 100 metres in 41 steps, others take 44.

Also Bolt's split times for the 9.69 100 metres he ran in Bejing (he improved his own record to 9.58 in Berlin)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ua8ycqfc4ok/SKgWoF6lk9I/AAAAAAAAA08/LZfg0xtqGqk/s320/100m+splits+and+speed+table.gif

it's in metres, 40 yards = 36.57 metres.

If you determine the time for 35m by averaging the 30m time and the 40m time you get 4.215 seconds. Add a few more seconds for the unaccounted 1.57m and is time is really close to Johnson's 4.24 at the combine. Bolt has unreal endurance, so a race over 40 yards isn't even close. But a 40 yard dash would be allow CJ to keep up with Bolt.

E-Man
01-08-2010, 01:36 PM
I think Bolt lets CJ win to give him some personal charity.

Addict
01-08-2010, 02:04 PM
I don't think Bolt would accept anything less than 60m. He is the one with everything to lose here, everyone expects him to win easily. CJ has nothing to lose at all. Bolt would never accept something that would benefit CJ more than him.

I agree, he's got no incentive to hurt himself. Bolt knows that his speciality lies with the slightly longer distances (longer than 35 metres anyway).

But everyone who thinks this will be an even contest, bear in mind that Usain Bolt demolished the world's finest sprinters head-to head, running a world record without even really running the last 20 metres of a 100 metre race. The dude is impossibly fast. Johnson's chances diminish with every yard added to the length of the race.

descendency
01-08-2010, 02:23 PM
Bolt does this **** for a living.

Yea... because running fast has nothing to do with what CJ does for a living. :rolleyes:

Paranoidmoonduck
01-08-2010, 02:30 PM
If you determine the time for 35m by averaging the 30m time and the 40m time you get 4.215 seconds. Add a few more seconds for the unaccounted 1.57m and is time is really close to Johnson's 4.24 at the combine. Bolt has unreal endurance, so a race over 40 yards isn't even close. But a 40 yard dash would be allow CJ to keep up with Bolt.

Sure, if you ignore that the 40 yard dash starts at movement while the 100m starts at the gun, or that Bolt was running a race not to hit his top speed at 40 yards but after 60m.

I'm not even buying that Johnson has anything on Bolt in terms of short range acceleration. Chris Johnson is fast, but I don't think he is Olympic fast. And Bolt is the fastest Olympian in history.

Paul
01-08-2010, 02:34 PM
Sure, if you ignore that the 40 yard dash starts at movement while the 100m starts at the gun, or that Bolt was running a race not to hit his top speed at 40 yards but after 60m.

I'm not even buying that Johnson has anything on Bolt in terms of short range acceleration. Chris Johnson is fast, but I don't think he Olympic fast. And Bolt is the fastest Olympian in history.

Thank You. CJ is getting blown out in this poll and I still think it's way to close.

VoteLynnSwan
01-08-2010, 04:07 PM
I ran through the split times provided using excel, and came up with a time of 4.34s for Bolt's 40 yard dash.

Obviously under different conditions than a combine type time, but interesting nonetheless.

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/755/bolt.png

Because this is the type of thing I do in my free time...

Also forth noting... if Bolt hadn't slowed down at the end of that run, he would have run a 9.60s 100m