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go_ravens94
03-12-2007, 07:44 PM
What is your big board?

Mine is (Realistically):

1. Jarvis Moss
2. Levi Brown
3. Aaron Sears
4. Aaron Ross
5. Joe Staley
6. Marcus McCauley
7. Ben Grubbs

If I'm forgetting anyone, let me know.

ccB
03-12-2007, 07:53 PM
Id put Brown #1.

Yung Flippa
03-12-2007, 07:53 PM
My Big Board Is:

1) Levi Brown
2) Joe Staley
3) Anthony Spencer
4) Jarvis Moss
5) Aaron Ross
6) David Harris

EdReedUnstoppable
03-12-2007, 08:39 PM
Well the big board doesn't factor in draft position the big board is the top overall prospects so I would hope the Ravens board top 5 looks something like this:

1. Calvin Johnson
2. Gaines Adams
3. Joe Thomas
4. Adrian Peterson
5. Jamarcus Russell


But for pic #29 I'd say

1. Chris Houston
2. Levi Brown
3. Justin Blalock
4. Jarvis Moss
5. Sidney Rice

dcarey20
03-12-2007, 09:03 PM
here's a list of guys i'd like in each round:

(not including Moss, Levi Brown, or Darrelle Revis. I think there is an outside chance that one of those guys falls to us, but as of now, its too hard to say. So I am only writing down guys who I am fairly certain we will have a shot at)

1st:

Aaron Ross, CB, Texas: Thorpe award winner and has good size and speed. Eventual replacement for Rolle.

Anthony Spencer, DE/OLB, Purdue: I really like Jarrett Johnson and I feel he's poised for a breakout year. But you can never have enough pass rushers and Spencer has the versatility to be a great fit for us.

Victor Abiamiri, DE/OLB, Notre Dame: basically the same as the Spencer pick.

Tank Tyler, DT, NC State: this may seem like a puzziling pick to some, but I'm a big fan of Tyler. As I said with the pass rushers, I don't think you can have enough solid defensive lineman. Tyler would give us a guy with alot of potential who can be a great situational guy to fill in on the dline. And if somehow Kelly Gregg can not be retained, he would be the perfect replacement.

Aaron Sears, OG/OT, Tennessee: Big and strong and his versatility to play either guard or tackle would give us alot of options on the oline.

2nd:

Josh Wilson, CB, Maryland: My favorite player in the draft. I actually prefer him over Ross, but Ross carries a higher grade. Everyone knows that Josh has great athleticism, and despite his size, he can be physical, which would fit well with us.

Fred Bennett, CB, South Carolina: He has all of the tools needed to be a great player in the NFL. The size and athleticism is there, just needs to work a bit on his ball skills

Eric Wright, CB, UNLV: another guy with a crazy amount of potential.

Ben Grubbs, OG, Auburn: i think grubbs has established himself as the top true guard in the draft. He's got good size and strength along with athleticism and he would solve the problem at right guard.

Tim Crowder, DE, Texas: the successor to Trevor Pryce. He's got good versatility just like Pryce.

Ray McDonald, DE/DT, Florida: Basically the same explanation as Crowder.

Stewart Bradley, OLB, Nebraska: Gives us good depth at OLB, and I feel he fits what we try to do on defense.

4th(comp):

Le'Ron McClain, FB, Alabama: The top fullback in the draft and the perfect replacement for Ovie. Blocking is all he wants to do. We've also shown interest in him up to this point.

Stephon Heyer, OT, Maryland: hometown guy who would give us some much needed depth at tackle.

Troy Smith, QB, Ohio State: No I'm not sold on Smith as a good starter in the NFL. But if he somehow slips to the late 4th, which I think could easily happen, I would like to see us take a chance on him, not as our future, but as a good backup with solid potential.

ChefMike
03-12-2007, 11:10 PM
Abiamiri is not 1st round talent he was a big disapointment at ND over the potential he showed at Gilman. Jarvis Moss will be long gone by the time we draft, lots of teams are looking at him. I think we need to address DL depth or OL depth in the 1st unless we can trade down and stockpile extra picks like getting another 2nd and replacing our 3rd. As for a big board I agree a TOP would have to look like this:

1. Calvin Johnson
2. Joe Thomas
3. Gaines Adams
4. Adrian Peterson
5. JaMarcus Russell

at 29 though I think we should be looking at

1. Justin Blaylock OL
2. Aaron Sears OL
3. Tim Crowder DE
4. Anthony Spencer DE
5. Lawrence Timmons LB
6. Joe Staley OL

I see that as our board late in the 1st round that would still be available.

Bohleive
03-13-2007, 12:58 AM
Realistically:
1.Levi Brown
2.Lawrence Timmons
3.Paul Posluszny
4.Chris Houston
5.Trade down
6.David Harris

ChefMike
03-13-2007, 01:31 AM
Levi Brown isnt going to be there..... he is rising up the boards because there are alot of teams looking for young talent on the OL...he will be gone before 20 long gone by the time we draft at 29...same with Poz Carolina will scoop him up or Pittsburgh will or even Giants if he falls that far. He has been closing the gap between he and Patrick Willis from Ole Miss. Would love to have him in Purple and Black... but I don't think he will be there...

go_ravens94
03-13-2007, 10:50 AM
At this point, unless magic happens and one of my top 2 falls (Moss or Brown), we have a choice between:

Joe Staley or Aaron Sears or Trade Down (David Harris)

Also, what do you guys think about Drew Stanton?

ccB
03-13-2007, 12:18 PM
I think Joe Staley in the first would be a reach and Id rather address CB than ILB right now unless its Patrick Willis.

My big board...

1. Levi Brown
2. Jarvis Moss
3. Chris Houston
4. Darrelle Revis
5. Anthony Spencer
6. Paul Posluzny
7. Jon Beason
8. Marcus McCauley
9. Quentin Moses
10. Tony Ugoh

BigDawg819
03-13-2007, 12:50 PM
Chris Houston would be a steal at 29! That kid has the intangibles of a player that seems to be destined for being great.

Other then that I look for a board around our pick to be:

Chris Houston
Patrick Willis
Marcus McCauley
Aaron Sears
Tony Ugoh
Anthony Spencer


And enough with the Josh Wilson hype, please. Its as bad as the Troy Smith garbage. I know Josh is a hometown product and is insanely fast, BUT HE'S TOO DAMN SHORT AND NOT A RAVEN TYPE GUY FOR DEFENSE!!!!!!!!

ccB
03-13-2007, 12:55 PM
Chris Houston would be a steal at 29! That kid has the intangibles of a player that seems to be destined for being great.

Other then that I look for a board around our pick to be:

Chris Houston
Patrick Willis
Marcus McCauley
Aaron Sears
Tony Ugoh
Anthony Spencer


And enough with the Josh Wilson hype, please. Its as bad as the Troy Smith garbage. I know Josh is a hometown product and is insanely fast, BUT HE'S TOO DAMN SHORT AND NOT A RAVEN TYPE GUY FOR DEFENSE!!!!!!!!

Wilson is around the same height as Houston if Im not mistaken. Also Troy Smith has little to no hype right now.

BigDawg819
03-13-2007, 01:08 PM
Wilson is around the same height as Houston if Im not mistaken. Also Troy Smith has little to no hype right now.

Yes the Troy Smith hype finally died down but prior to the BCS Title game everyone either wanted him or was projecting up to pick him and he's garbage! A Kordell Stewart clone only worse!

Houston is 5'9 and 7/8ths
Wilson is 5'9 and 1/4th


Thats not that much of a discrepancy but I don't want Wilson on an island in the secondary cause it will be 6 all day. Sorry I'm not buying this Wilson hype and besides Denver is supposedly looking hard at him and let them.

ChefMike
03-13-2007, 01:21 PM
I don't want to buy into the Hype surrounding Wilson either... 2nd rd guy at best...just cause he is a work out hero doesnt equate to the football field...the old saying is true... "Speed Kills" it can kill you on the hype that you get and the lofty expectations you recieve and then you can't deliver ! now I am not saying anything about height, but is he going to be able to cover a guy like TO, Moss, CJ, or even our own Clearance Moore ? in the Red Zone height does matter to an extent. I am not buying into the prototype player theory either (molding a specific body type for a position) but in some cases it does give you the edge..

ccB
03-13-2007, 02:12 PM
I think with Wilson its not his speed everyone loves as much as his speed paired with his ability to play the run. Hes not Fabian Washington who was a 1st round selection soley on forty time. He can hit. I love the kid and I'll agree hes a 2nd round pick right now but I htink he will be a player in the league.

BigDawg819
03-13-2007, 02:20 PM
Any way I would take Wilson over Troy "I'm no better then Kordell" Smith any day. Maybe I'm wrong about Josh, but he's not a "Raven guy" on defense. And yes lately I've been pushing the Chris Houston charge, but honestly McCauley at that spot would be sweet as well. He's got alot of heat on him about his senior year but that was not his doing. Look at his junior year and man that guy is a talent.

Ravens1991
03-13-2007, 02:39 PM
I think we could get Smith in the 3rd how would you all feel if we did that?

ccB
03-13-2007, 02:43 PM
I think we could get Smith in the 3rd how would you all feel if we did that?

IMPOSSIBLE! we dont have 3rd rounds picks.


Also, I think McCauley is the most "raven like" CB in the draft. Hes big and physical but still relaly fast. I would not be suprised to see us select him he reminds me alot of Cmac.

BigDawg819
03-13-2007, 03:18 PM
IMPOSSIBLE! we dont have 3rd rounds picks.


Also, I think McCauley is the most "raven like" CB in the draft. Hes big and physical but still relaly fast. I would not be suprised to see us select him he reminds me alot of Cmac.


I agree with the McCauley comparisons and statements CCB, we think alot alike it seems.

AND HOW IN THE BLUE HELL CAN YOU ROCK A WILLIS McGAHEE SIG AND NOT KNOW WE TRADED AWAY OUR 3RD PICK!!!!!??????????!!!!!!!!!?

AND TROY SMITH IS GARBAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SO I HATE THAT SUGGESTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ChefMike
03-13-2007, 05:23 PM
We have no business even thinking of drafting another QB this year... the FO is high on Olsen as a back up and Boller will resign after this season and be our starter for years to come... I wouldnt be apposed to McCauley or Houston but I would rather see us address some depth on either OL or DL. I would love to see us pick up someone that can spell Trevor Pryce sometimes to help keep him fresh for 3rd down and pass rushing situations. To get someone like Charles Johnson would be a steal also at #29. If we could get someone like Houston that would be a total steal to get someone of his caliber to eventually replace Samari Rolle or challenge him this TC for his spot...

ccB
03-13-2007, 05:43 PM
We have no business even thinking of drafting another QB this year... the FO is high on Olsen as a back up and Boller will resign after this season and be our starter for years to come... I wouldnt be apposed to McCauley or Houston but I would rather see us address some depth on either OL or DL. I would love to see us pick up someone that can spell Trevor Pryce sometimes to help keep him fresh for 3rd down and pass rushing situations. To get someone like Charles Johnson would be a steal also at #29. If we could get someone like Houston that would be a total steal to get someone of his caliber to eventually replace Samari Rolle or challenge him this TC for his spot...

Didnt we get rid of Drew Olsen?

RaVeNFaNaCtIc
03-13-2007, 06:00 PM
IMPOSSIBLE! we dont have 3rd rounds picks.


Also, I think McCauley is the most "raven like" CB in the draft. Hes big and physical but still relaly fast. I would not be suprised to see us select him he reminds me alot of Cmac.

same here but last time i said he reminds me of Cmac i was yelled at for some reason:confused: Anyway he is my favorite corner in the draft but i dont see us taking a CB in the first round, because we have holes at the OT positon and may even need a replacement at OLB/DE. My round 2 pick is Ray McDonald, im crazy over him and HE MUST BECOME A RAVEN!!! A great replacement to Trevor Pryce!:)

dcarey20
03-13-2007, 06:45 PM
Didnt we get rid of Drew Olsen?

no we sent drew over to nfl europe...

dcarey20
03-13-2007, 06:46 PM
Abiamiri is not 1st round talent

at 29 though I think we should be looking at

1. Justin Blaylock OL
2. Aaron Sears OL
3. Tim Crowder DE
4. Anthony Spencer DE
5. Lawrence Timmons LB
6. Joe Staley OL

I see that as our board late in the 1st round that would still be available.

abiamiri is not a first round talent but blalock is?

dcarey20
03-13-2007, 06:51 PM
one more thing, why the hate on josh wilson? how is he not a raven player? we all know about the crazy speed and potential, but he can hit and be physical. i like chris houston. i have him at #10 on my board and i feel he's the best corner in the draft. but one thing people don't seem to realize is that he is the same height as josh. josh is my favorite player in the draft and i feel he's going to be one of the many good corners to come from this draft.

go_ravens94
03-13-2007, 07:32 PM
one more thing, why the hate on josh wilson? how is he not a raven player? we all know about the crazy speed and potential, but he can hit and be physical. i like chris houston. i have him at #10 on my board and i feel he's the best corner in the draft. but one thing people don't seem to realize is that he is the same height as josh. josh is my favorite player in the draft and i feel he's going to be one of the many good corners to come from this draft.

Yup. If he's at #29 in Round 2, I'd take him...

ChefMike
03-13-2007, 09:44 PM
abiamiri is not a first round talent but blalock is?

Find a publication that says Abiamiri is a first round talent... he played on a defense that was one of the worst where as Blaylock played tackle on a great passing and running offense. Even as far as this website is concerned Blaylock is the best ranked at his natural position of OG and Victor is ranked only ranked 5th and that is a stretch. Us selecting him in the 1st round would be a waste of time. Victors brother Rob played at Maryland and thats the only reason he got a shot at our practice squad. We would be throwing our picks in the toilet to select him...

ccB
03-13-2007, 10:20 PM
Id rather have Abiamiri over Blaylock but I dont really want neither.

niel89
03-13-2007, 10:22 PM
i just want a good RT. some one who can come in and start.

EdReedUnstoppable
03-14-2007, 12:05 AM
Chris Houston would be a steal at 29! That kid has the intangibles of a player that seems to be destined for being great.

Other then that I look for a board around our pick to be:

Chris Houston
Patrick Willis
Marcus McCauley
Aaron Sears
Tony Ugoh
Anthony Spencer


And enough with the Josh Wilson hype, please. Its as bad as the Troy Smith garbage. I know Josh is a hometown product and is insanely fast, BUT HE'S TOO DAMN SHORT AND NOT A RAVEN TYPE GUY FOR DEFENSE!!!!!!!!


I cannot support this notion, Josh WIlson is a Raven type of guy, because he has a swagger and loves to play physical. He may be short but what he lacks in size he makes up for in determination, will, and heart, he could play for my team anyday!

go_ravens94
03-14-2007, 10:42 AM
I cannot support this notion, Josh WIlson is a Raven type of guy, because he has a swagger and loves to play physical. He may be short but what he lacks in size he makes up for in determination, will, and heart, he could play for my team anyday!

Josh Wilson is a Raven!

Abiamiri would be a good 2nd-4th Round pick, not a first round pick.

JUSTIN BLALOCK DOES NOT FIT OUR SYSTEM, he was good in the college game, but watch as he burns out and becomes a HUGE bust.

ChefMike
03-14-2007, 11:21 AM
I don't see us selecting Josh Wilson, I could see us picking Marcus McCauley before him if we go after a CB. I just cant see us going after a CB in the 1st this year. With the depth at the OL and DL positions in the draft this year I cant see us NOT going after one of those two positions in the 1st rd.

Bohleive
03-14-2007, 02:48 PM
Find a publication that says Abiamiri is a first round talent... he played on a defense that was one of the worst where as Blaylock played tackle on a great passing and running offense. Even as far as this website is concerned Blaylock is the best ranked at his natural position of OG and Victor is ranked only ranked 5th and that is a stretch. Us selecting him in the 1st round would be a waste of time. Victors brother Rob played at Maryland and thats the only reason he got a shot at our practice squad. We would be throwing our picks in the toilet to select him...

How about this one:
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/de/victorabiamiri.html
not a 'publication', but i'd say a pretty reputable source.
Your argument is pretty flawed. The guy put 10.5 sacks on that very poor d with a very poor supporting cast and defense. Sacks are one stat that is very hard to accumulate without help; other pass-rushers taking up blocks and solid coverage down field. Victor didn't have any of those things he and still did very well for himself. The fact that he played on that d and excelled is a positive, not a negative.
As for Wilson, I like him a lot in the second, in the first he seems to be a bit of a reach to me.

go_ravens94
03-14-2007, 02:57 PM
How about this one:
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/de/victorabiamiri.html
not a 'publication', but i'd say a pretty reputable source.
Your argument is pretty flawed. The guy put 10.5 sacks on that very poor d with a very poor supporting cast and defense. Sacks are one stat that is very hard to accumulate without help; other pass-rushers taking up blocks and solid coverage down field. Victor didn't have any of those things he and still did very well for himself. The fact that he played on that d and excelled is a positive, not a negative.
As for Wilson, I like him a lot in the second, in the first he seems to be a bit of a reach to me.

I agree, but for VA, we should trade down a few spots and gain draft picks.

Bohleive
03-14-2007, 06:34 PM
I agree, but for VA, we should trade down a few spots and gain draft picks.

To be clear, I'm not advocating drafting him, I just think that he's definitely a first round talent. I put up my argument against taking OLB/DE in my mock draft.

go_ravens94
03-14-2007, 07:35 PM
To be clear, I'm not advocating drafting him, I just think that he's definitely a first round talent. I put up my argument against taking OLB/DE in my mock draft.

I think we need BPA.

Jarvis Moss is BPA in this situation.

Bohleive
03-14-2007, 08:46 PM
I think we need BPA.

Jarvis Moss is BPA in this situation.

In which situation? If you're speaking generally then I don't think he is. He is the opposite of Abiamiri, not as athletic and unproductive on a very good defense where he should've gotten lots of sacks. The guy is overrated plain and simple, in my mind. He is a good prospect, but not a first rounder. He has good but not great athleticism, size is a question though he could put on probably 20 lbs and he didn't produce nearly what he should've in college.
And while I'm ranting, I know a few people here like Hughes in the second. I'm just curious as to what reasoning there is for that. The guy is not the type of corner we need for our scheme. With a 4.65 40 there is no way he has enough speed that we can leave him on an island, or really in any type of man situation. The way we blitz he'd get us killed. If people think Rolle gets burned a lot, wait till you see a CB out there, on our D, with LB speed, and I'm not talking AD speed.

ChefMike
03-15-2007, 12:53 PM
How about this one:
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/de/victorabiamiri.html
not a 'publication', but i'd say a pretty reputable source.
Your argument is pretty flawed. The guy put 10.5 sacks on that very poor d with a very poor supporting cast and defense. Sacks are one stat that is very hard to accumulate without help; other pass-rushers taking up blocks and solid coverage down field. Victor didn't have any of those things he and still did very well for himself. The fact that he played on that d and excelled is a positive, not a negative.
As for Wilson, I like him a lot in the second, in the first he seems to be a bit of a reach to me.

OK look at the updated MOCK draft... he is selected in the 3rd round... Abiamiri is overrated...

Bohleive
03-15-2007, 04:44 PM
OK look at the updated MOCK draft... he is selected in the 3rd round... Abiamiri is overrated...

So he dropped a bit in Scott's eyes in the last 2-3 weeks, so what? Present an argument to counter mine. Most people rate Abiamiri as a 1st rounder. Take a consensus.

ChefMike
03-15-2007, 04:54 PM
In which situation? If you're speaking generally then I don't think he is. He is the opposite of Abiamiri, not as athletic and unproductive on a very good defense where he should've gotten lots of sacks. The guy is overrated plain and simple, in my mind. He is a good prospect, but not a first rounder. He has good but not great athleticism, size is a question though he could put on probably 20 lbs and he didn't produce nearly what he should've in college.
And while I'm ranting, I know a few people here like Hughes in the second. I'm just curious as to what reasoning there is for that. The guy is not the type of corner we need for our scheme. With a 4.65 40 there is no way he has enough speed that we can leave him on an island, or really in any type of man situation. The way we blitz he'd get us killed. If people think Rolle gets burned a lot, wait till you see a CB out there, on our D, with LB speed, and I'm not talking AD speed.

Who are you talking about here ??? Jarvis Moss is not a CB and 4.65 for a LB is not slow thats actually quite fast. You think everyone that starts in the NFL runs a 4.4 ? AD wasnt any faster then 4.65 plus Moss has at least 3 inches of height on AD. I would love to see Moss in the fold with our defense. AD was quick he was not a track star ! He was still 6'2 and 270lbs OLB not CMac on the corner...

And as far as Abiamiri, he was overrated coming out of High School at Gilman when he went to ND. He racked up stats against the weak teams and then disappeared when the USC's and Michigans and LSU's came calling. No one has that much of a drop off in Mock drafts over the course of 2-3 weeks because of luck. No one is talking about him other then fans on forums... he isnt the talk of HOT draft prospects on any network or in any publication.

Bohleive
03-15-2007, 05:41 PM
Who are you talking about here ??? Jarvis Moss is not a CB and 4.65 for a LB is not slow thats actually quite fast. You think everyone that starts in the NFL runs a 4.4 ? AD wasnt any faster then 4.65 plus Moss has at least 3 inches of height on AD. I would love to see Moss in the fold with our defense. AD was quick he was not a track star ! He was still 6'2 and 270lbs OLB not CMac on the corner...

And as far as Abiamiri, he was overrated coming out of High School at Gilman when he went to ND. He racked up stats against the weak teams and then disappeared when the USC's and Michigans and LSU's came calling. No one has that much of a drop off in Mock drafts over the course of 2-3 weeks because of luck. No one is talking about him other then fans on forums... he isnt the talk of HOT draft prospects on any network or in any publication.

I was talking about Daymeion Hughes, a CB. I thought I made that relatively clear.
Anyways, on Abiamiri, so you mean he didn't 'show up' against very good teams, as the only threat on ND's defense? I mean who else would anyone be remotely worried about on that D? When he's getting doubled and tripled by elite competition I wouldn't downgrade him for not producing the same. If someone is going to make an argument for Jarvis Moss who really under-produced in college, and isn't even as big, strong or athletic, then why pick on Abiamiri?

ChefMike
03-15-2007, 06:40 PM
Well I am not sure where you played your college ball at but if your triple teaming a DE then your QB is sacked....
Abiamiri racked up stats against Navy, Army, Air Force come on now...Moss was playing against NFL talent week in and week out. I am a fan of the ACC but I played in the SEC and the talent level there is just a bit better...Abiamiri is not going to be a very good pro and Moss is a freak athlete he is on par with Jevon Kearse coming out of college NOT Mike Mamula...

Bohleive
03-15-2007, 06:57 PM
Well I am not sure where you played your college ball at but if your triple teaming a DE then your QB is sacked....
Abiamiri racked up stats against Navy, Army, Air Force come on now...Moss was playing against NFL talent week in and week out. I am a fan of the ACC but I played in the SEC and the talent level there is just a bit better...Abiamiri is not going to be a very good pro and Moss is a freak athlete he is on par with Jevon Kearse coming out of college NOT Mike Mamula...

He is not even close to the athlete Kearse was, and that's not up for debate. Kearse was much faster and more explosive, as shown in his 40 and vertical. As for the triple teaming thing, you completely missed my point. Who else on ND's defense was gonna threaten a QB? Good teams could do this to him because the rest of ND's defense was freaking awful. Against the teams you mentioned, yeah, OL could win the one on one battles, hell they didn't have to block very long either because ND's secondary was the worst part of that D.

ChefMike
03-19-2007, 11:08 PM
He is not even close to the athlete Kearse was, and that's not up for debate. Kearse was much faster and more explosive, as shown in his 40 and vertical. As for the triple teaming thing, you completely missed my point. Who else on ND's defense was gonna threaten a QB? Good teams could do this to him because the rest of ND's defense was freaking awful. Against the teams you mentioned, yeah, OL could win the one on one battles, hell they didn't have to block very long either because ND's secondary was the worst part of that D.

Technically the difference really wasnt much between the 2...
Jarvis Moss 6'6" 250lbs 4.70
Jevon Kearse 6'5" 262lbs 4.62

if thats not even close then I apologize... and we know that measureables like this are not always the watermark to draft players but whatever...its just like the vertical jump... In the NBA that would mean something but you don't need to be able to jump over the moon to play in the NFL...

ChefMike
03-19-2007, 11:16 PM
So not everyone can agree with who to take in the 1st round. What does everyone think we should be picking the rest of the draft since we are limited in number of picks we have ? I still think we need to focus on the Defensive side of the ball. We need depth, everyone keeps giving them big contracts !! Not that its a bad thing, good for them and good for our FO that we keep bringing in top flight talent. I would like to see us address CB depth and DL depth.

Would love to see us make a deal and get back into the 3rd rd or the 2nd round to try and pick up some of the quality that will be there.

America
03-19-2007, 11:25 PM
I'm becoming a big fan of Tank Tyler in the first. I really want to address the lines in the first, maybe even the first and 2nd. Although if Lawrence Timmons dropped to us, I'd want him just cause he's one of my favorite players. I would love IAFrancis/Ryan McBean in the 2nd or Josh Beekman and same with James Marten. Those BC lineman always seem to be studs.

America
03-26-2007, 09:45 PM
Ravens | Sears scheduled to visit team
Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:29:17 -0700

Albert Breer, writing for the Boston Herald, reports Tennessee OL Arron Sears is scheduled to visit the Baltimore Ravens.

Bohleive
03-26-2007, 10:52 PM
its just like the vertical jump... In the NBA that would mean something but you don't need to be able to jump over the moon to play in the NFL...Just to be clear, the vertical is useful in determining explosiveness and leg strength. Kearse is clearly the better athlete, posting a 40 almost a full 1/10 of a second faster and a much better vert. (too lazy to retrieve exact #'s) all while carrying 12 lbs more on a very similar frame. Just wanted to make that point clear; Moss is in no way comparable to Kearse as a prospect in my mind. Everyone is entitled to their opinion though.

ChefMike
03-27-2007, 11:56 AM
Just to be clear, the vertical is useful in determining explosiveness and leg strength. Kearse is clearly the better athlete, posting a 40 almost a full 1/10 of a second faster and a much better vert. (too lazy to retrieve exact #'s) all while carrying 12 lbs more on a very similar frame. Just wanted to make that point clear; Moss is in no way comparable to Kearse as a prospect in my mind. Everyone is entitled to their opinion though.

Agreed everyone is entitled to their own opinion... I just think Moss would be a good fit in our system I think our versatility is a great asset that allows us to have those tweeners that can't play an exact position come in and be successful.. much like T-Sizzle and AD have thrived in our system....

Raven Domination
03-28-2007, 04:11 PM
Any way I would take Wilson over Troy "I'm no better then Kordell" Smith any day. Maybe I'm wrong about Josh, but he's not a "Raven guy" on defense. And yes lately I've been pushing the Chris Houston charge, but honestly McCauley at that spot would be sweet as well. He's got alot of heat on him about his senior year but that was not his doing. Look at his junior year and man that guy is a talent.

What is it with you and your Troy Smith hate? How many Buckeyes games did you see last year (outside of the BCS Title game of course)...just wondering? While I definently wouldn't draft him before the 4th round, if guys like Kolb, Beck, and Stanton are gone...we should take him.

We have no business even thinking of drafting another QB this year... the FO is high on Olsen as a back up and Boller will resign after this season and be our starter for years to come...

I couldn't disagree more. Since when is our FO high on Olsen? This is news to me...

America
03-28-2007, 05:49 PM
I like Josh Wilson. I only really noticed him in one of the games later in the season. The announcers were talkin how he's so small but hits like bricks. He's a pretty solid tackler, although he won't take down a RB easily, he'll slow him down. He gets lost sometimes though, kinda reminds me of Dunta Robinson. And I actually think we could get him in the 4th. He's been falling. Actually no, our 4th is too late, maybe early 4th.