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MaxV
01-07-2010, 03:59 PM
The Indianapolis Colts are healing and gearing up for their unknown 2nd round opponent.

First story:

Matt Stover will be the kicker for the Colts' in the playoffs.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2009/news/story?id=4804988

I hope he does well.

chad72
01-07-2010, 04:59 PM
The offenses in the divisional round we will face - Bengals, Jets, or Ravens are all predominantly one-dimensional and run based, I like our chances this year as long as our D-line health holds up, knock on wood. Because after AJ & Muir, huge drop off in run D. Eric Foster is hit and miss but is a better pass down UT, just like Brock. Plus, our DE dropoff is huge too after Freeney and Mathis, Dawson and Baldwin, don't get me started. Our D-line health is singularly the most important phase in the playoffs, IMO. The more balanced offenses in the AFC are the Chargers and the Pats, it is good to be facing only one of them.

In the last 6 years (2003-2008), the Patriots are the only team to have beaten 2 out of the big AFC 4 (I call it that way) back-to-back in the playoffs - Steelers, Chargers, Colts, and Patriots are the big AFC 4 to me. To me, it is pretty draining physically and mentally having to beat 2 of those teams back-to-back in the playoffs. So, I like the fact that the Colts will have to beat only 1 of them if we get to the AFCCG.

Plus, in the last 10 years (1999-2008), only 2 #1 seeds (Rams in 1999, Patriots in 2003) have won the SB. In that period, only 3 #1 AFC seeds have gone to the SB (Raiders in 2002, Patriots in 2003, Patriots in 2007) - only 1 of them won it. 2 times in the last 10 years - it is due for another #1 seed to win it all - hopefully it is the Colts.:)

killxswitch
01-08-2010, 07:39 AM
As frustrating as the Jets game was, the prospect of having Mathis and Freeney at or close to full health is pretty exciting. Plus it got some other guys some reps at DE, and the LBs got a lot more practice blitzing. With legit edge rush threats the pass rush as a whole will improve, both from the interior DL (more single blocks for Muir) and with the LBs blitzing. I think the playoffs will show the culmination of Coyer's scheme and there will be some memorable QB hits by Brackett, Session, and if they let him, Wheeler.

Speaking of which, I think the LBs were playing at their highest collective level at the end of the season, including Wheeler who really improved in those last few games (minus the Bills game, which I didn't watch much of). I hope they can continue this, we'll need them against guys like Ray Rice, Cedric Benson, Fred Taylor, or Darren Sproles.

MaxV
01-08-2010, 07:59 AM
Or Thomas Jones.

I'm actually predicting that we'll play the Jets. If so, I hope we can make Rex put a foot in his over-sized mouth.

For those that haven't heard, Rex Ryan stated that Jets should be the favorites to win the Super Bowl. That happened after he found out that Jets were put at 50-1 to win the SP by Vegas.

killxswitch
01-08-2010, 08:02 AM
I knew I was forgetting somebody. Yeah Thomas Jones and Shonn Greene both can do damage. I wanted us to draft Greene. Obviously didn't expect Brown in the 1st, heh. I think Manning had figured the Jets D out to a certain extent in the 3rd Q. If we meet them again I think we'll do just fine.

Philliez01
01-08-2010, 11:41 PM
I'm oh-so scared of facing Baltimore out of all the plausible teams. Over the past few years, they've played some spirited ball against Indy and it's usually a battle of field goals or something.

Ray Rice scares me. While not great (yet), Flacco is improving tremendously and I'm still wary of McGahee as a 2nd option. If I had to pick a team to avoid, it would be a disciplined Ravens team.

MaxV
01-09-2010, 08:09 AM
Every team in the playoffs is very dangerous. But I don't think there are any that we can't beat.

Personally, I'm not even thinking about at the moment.

There are 3 possible teams that we can face in the 2nd round (Cincy, Jets or Ravens). All are dangerous, but I think we would be the favorites against any of them.

I think those 3 teams are about equal.

We would need to win the turnover battle against any of them.

MaxV
01-10-2010, 10:08 PM
Colts vs. Ravens.

Tough matchup. First thing is we will have to slow down Ray Rice. Short, quick, strong and determined, this kid is very similar to Jones-Drew. Protecting Peyton and opening holes for the running game will be a challenge also. O-Line must do it's job.

I think the key matchups for this game will be in the trenches. Both of our lines will need to play well.

I hope we win and move on.

Philliez01
01-10-2010, 10:14 PM
If the Colts can effectively stop Ray Rice, they win this game. If not? It's not going to be an extremely aggravating game to watch.

Players that need to step up:

Dan Muir, Joseph Addai, Kyle DeVan and the LB crew.

MaxV
01-10-2010, 10:16 PM
I forgot to add:

WE MUST WIN THE TURNOVER BATTLE!

RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES
01-10-2010, 11:11 PM
Well looks like it's us vs the Colts. Look out because here we come. Going to be a great game. They always are. Hopefully we can spank you guys like we did the Patriots.

killxswitch
01-12-2010, 07:51 AM
It'd be great to see Addai juke Ray Lewis out of his shoes again.

I think this will be a really tough game. Max I think your MJD comparison for Ray Rice is spot on though he looks like he could even be faster. He is like a bowling ball with legs. I expect a bunch of our players to just bounce off of him which will be very frustrating to watch. McGahee is good in goal line situations but overall I think Rice will be the biggest problem to deal with since he moves the chains.

Flacco, OTOH, appears to be hurt. I agree w/Philliez, if we stop Rice we win the game. Regarding turnovers I'm sure Manning will throw at least one pick to Ed Reed. The D will have to play tough, disciplined football.

RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES
01-12-2010, 09:42 AM
Hopefully he will be close to 100% Saturday. He had the past 2 weeks off. I mean except for the 10 times he had to throw the ball Sunday. Ravens vs Colts. Did you guys expect anything other than the hardest road through the Playoffs? I would rather of had the Chargers but hey we always have an exciting game against the Colts. Win or lose it is going to be fun to watch. Bad luck guys lol :)

chad72
01-12-2010, 02:21 PM
It seems like both the Jets and Ravens will be facing mirror image offenses as far as passing percentages and the fact that the Chargers are 31st in the league in rushing yards per game and the Colts are 32nd.

I expect what Manning faces all the time, teams playing nickel/dime and zone coverage all day and forcing the Colts offense to run the ball. A blitz will be thrown in once in a while but more often, I expect the Ravens to show blitz and play coverage with double team help switching towards Wayne and Clark constantly. Addai will be the single big key with his blitz pickups and running the ball effectively while on the receiving corp, and Collie will be the key to moving the chains. I expect to see Jacob Tamme as a 2nd receiving TE to combat nickel and dime formations the Ravens may throw at us.

2 guys - Jacob Tamme and John Chick, a lot of teams do not have much film on. John Chick is that new defensive player of the year signed from the CFL, probably to spell Freeney or Mathis on passing downs when one of them is taking a breather. I expect Brock to be in on running downs more in this Ravens game. If we get to play the Chargers, I expect Mathis to play more then.

The gameplan of the Jets cannot be too far from what the Ravens will have. Rex Ryan has played the run well with nickel and dime formations in the past and I expect him to do so in the Chargers' game as well. The only difference is while the Ravens have the centerfield Ed Reed to prevent big plays, they do not have a Darelle Revis to just shut down a #1 wideout without having to devote safety help. So, if Manning is patient and does not turn it over too many times, the Colts have a good chance of keeping it close at home and winning it eventually. Just cannot let the Ravens get a 2 TD lead and play clock control. If it is a Ravens' 1 TD lead at home in the playoffs, the Colts can recover from that, just not 2 TDs.

Philliez01
01-12-2010, 02:41 PM
Decided to do this to burn some time. I'm pumped for this game but like all playoff games, this could be the last time we see our Colts until August. So let's enjoy.

Anyway, the game for me comes down to like Max said earlier "the turnover battle".

Even though he didn't have much of a shot last game to do anything, Flacco is looking more and more like a pretty good NFL QB by the week. But as of right now, he's still a bit of Orton-esque game manager (albeit with more talent). He can be easily pressured and while he has the Roethlisberger elusiveness, I'd say the matchup of the game defensively for the Colts will be Dwight Freeney vs. Michael Oher. Mathis, Brock, Dawson, Foster, Muir, etc. will all be relied upon to pressure Flacco, but Freeney is the catalyst on the D-Line.

However, the player who needs to step up most defensively are Dan Muir, Eric Foster, Keyunta Dawson and Fili Moala. We won't stop Ray Rice, however they can limit him enough to make him just a contributor instead of the focal point. If contained? Colts win. 'Nuff said. If not? Long game.

Now offensively, the key of the game will be the first series. How good does Peyton Manning, Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark look early on. If there is an immediate click, I can relax about the whole "sitting out starters" issue. If not, oh man.

killxswitch
01-12-2010, 02:44 PM
Philliez I don't think Oher and Freeney will match up against each other. Oher plays RT. Balt's LT is Jared Gaither. From my understanding he's been great for them so far and is a huge, Jonathan Ogden-sized tackle.

chad72
01-12-2010, 03:11 PM
On offense, expect Baltimore to come out throwing a few screen and easier bootleg passes early on to soften our D so that they can go back to doing what they do, pounding the rock and running it well.

chad72
01-12-2010, 03:16 PM
Now offensively, the key of the game will be the first series. How good does Peyton Manning, Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark look early on. If there is an immediate click, I can relax about the whole "sitting out starters" issue. If not, oh man.

Either the Ravens will get the ball or the Colts will punt the first possession. I am saying this because I know the Colts are slow starters, has been the case throughout the season. As long as they don't go 3 and out and get a couple of first downs at least before they punt, I think we will be alright.

Like I said, as long as it is just a 1 score deficit, I will not worry about the Colts till the 4th quarter.

MaxV
01-12-2010, 03:36 PM
I hope this time Colts have a great start and build a comfortable lead.

We play at our best with a lead and Ravens could be in trouble if they are forced to throw the ball often.

MaxV
01-16-2010, 10:39 PM
Nice win.

The D really stepped up after the first drive. Gary Brackett looked great. Muir had a very good game also imo. The secondary played excellent after the first drive.

Offensively, well, it wasn't perfect but it was effective. This was a great D that we were going up against. Still, we definitely left points on the field, something we can't do in the next round.

killxswitch
01-16-2010, 10:41 PM
Great win, great job by the D and by some individuals on the offense. They still need a little bit of work, other than the drives in the 2nd quarter the offense didn't really get going. The D let the O lean on them and they did enough to get points, but I wouldn't want to see the same effort vs. the Chargers.

How bout Pierre Garcon!!

MaxV
01-16-2010, 10:43 PM
That forced fumble was excellent. Just a great hustle play.

I was hoping he'd get a TD also, but Peyton just missed him on one play.

Ravens1991
01-16-2010, 10:48 PM
Good luck guys, I was impressed w/ Pierre hustle in forcing that fumble.


and I hope you guys win it all now, I will love to see Matt Stover pick up another ring.

MaxV
01-17-2010, 08:30 PM
Thanks Ravens.

Well, it's Jets vs. Colts. Very tough matchup.

We will HAVE to get the running game going in this one. Jets pass defense is very good. We'll have to stay away from turnovers on offense and force some on defense.

If we can establish the run on offense and contain their running game on defense, I think we'll be successful.

chad72
01-17-2010, 09:44 PM
The Chargers had way too much hype, energy, and playcalling invested in the jump ball offense (I call it that) that takes more time for the routes to develop, IMO. The Colts rely more on precision route running from their wideouts with an ability to separate. Plus, tall helps when you are in the end zone and if pushouts are not going to be called, more energy and focus of a tall WR is consumed to make sure his feet are in bounds as opposed to just securing the ball. How many times did we see those tall wideouts get close to the ball to be stripped off or defensed to result in an incompletion? Tall is overrated. Another co-incidence, another former Rex Ryan coached Ravens team beat SD in SD earlier this year, their offense does not match up well against such pressure Ds, Norv should have called more passes to Gates and Sproles. Similarly, Rex Ryan knows how Manning matches well against his Ds - cases to note are the Colts' success against the Ravens and pretty soon, Manning will score enough to beat the Jets.

Second, the Colts do not beat themselves with the kind of penalties the Chargers had - they acted again like the 2006 Patriots one-and-done home game not being able to handle being the favorites and committing unnecessary roughness and unsportsman like penalties.

Third, the Colts D has had more issues this year with offenses that are more balanced (Patriots, Texans etc.) giving up more points to them than the one-dimensional running offenses. The Dolphins game, the only game we had issues with a running attack, was before Ed Johnson was demoted and Muir being in there along with Antonio Johnson, our D-line in the middle is as stout as ever with AJ & Muir side-by-side.

Last but not least, thanks to the media for adding fuel to the following:


Have not won a playoff game after a bye week
Gave up too easily on the undefeated season for the SB
Now, it will be bad karma is going to get the Colts


Bring it on, the media has actually bailed out Bill Polian by giving their lashing to the Colts' team which did not deserve it in any way thus motivating this Colts' team more than before.

MaxV
01-17-2010, 10:14 PM
The one thing that still worries me is the fact that our O-Line still SUCKS at run-blocking.

I hope we have a balanced and mistake-free offensive attack next Sunday.

killxswitch
01-18-2010, 07:47 AM
Agreed our OL is still pathetic at run blocking. It's frustrating to see teams like the Jets, Bengals, and Ravens with the way they run block (though I wouldn't trade offenses with them ever). Definitely time to upgrade those positions this offseason. I bet we'll see some of those screens again that we saw earlier on this season, to the RB and to Wayne and Garcon.

MaxV
01-18-2010, 09:49 AM
Agreed our OL is still pathetic at run blocking. It's frustrating to see teams like the Jets, Bengals, and Ravens with the way they run block (though I wouldn't trade offenses with them ever). Definitely time to upgrade those positions this offseason. I bet we'll see some of those screens again that we saw earlier on this season, to the RB and to Wayne and Garcon.

I want to see more screen passes. It's an excellent cure for the lack of running game.

On defensive side of the ball, we have to get 8 men in the box, force them to 3rd-and-longs and make Sanchize beat you.

I'm looking forward to talking some smack with my Jets' fan co-worker tommorow. :)

UKfan
01-18-2010, 10:34 AM
I want to see more screen passes. It's an excellent cure for the lack of running game.

On defensive side of the ball, we have to get 8 men in the box, force them to 3rd-and-longs and make Sanchize beat you.

I'm looking forward to talking some smack with my Jets' fan co-worker tommorow. :)

Ditto, my best friend here is a Jets fan, we're having some good banter already.

MaxV
01-18-2010, 11:33 AM
I would also like to see Mike Hart get more carries.

Hart is probably the smallest and the slowest RB on our roster, but he could very well be the most decisive.

Addai tends to dance in the backfield a bit too much. Hart just recognizes the hole quickly and hits it as quick and as powerful as he can.

RagingColt
01-18-2010, 02:18 PM
Offensively the Colts have to play a whole lot better than they did vs the Ravens. Can't depend on getting 2 TDs and some friendly calls from the Refs for points. Seemed like nothing in the running game worked, esp the slow developing draw plays. Defensively, I'd think the game plan would be nearly identical to what Coyer did vs the Ravens. Blast the running lanes early and make Greene and Jones break multiple tackles for decent gains. Make a rookie QB beat you for the win. We can't let up now, got to keep the gas pedal to the floor.

Crickett
01-18-2010, 02:53 PM
As a Jets fan, I'm mostly concerned about Manning to Clark.

The thing about the Chargers is much like the game against the Patriots in the '06 playoffs, they made a lot of stupid mistakes against the Jets. Shaun Phillips headbutting D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Vincent Jackson kicking the challenge flag, three missed field goals, etc. I don't expect stuff like that from the Indianapolis Colts.

RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES
01-18-2010, 03:31 PM
The Colts stopped a really good Ravens run but the Jets have a better one. They scored 20 on a really good Ravens defense but the Jets have a better one. If Manning can not throw those 2 picks that Ed Reed got he will be fine but they got a little Ed Reed out there in Jim Leonhard. I don't expect the Jets to win but I will be rooting for them.

chad72
01-19-2010, 12:52 PM
The Colts stopped a really good Ravens run but the Jets have a better one. They scored 20 on a really good Ravens defense but the Jets have a better one. If Manning can not throw those 2 picks that Ed Reed got he will be fine but they got a little Ed Reed out there in Jim Leonhard. I don't expect the Jets to win but I will be rooting for them.

Don't kid yourself, Jim Leonhard is not Ed Reed and he does not cover the ground that Ed Reed can. Ed Reed can recover while the ball is in the air even if he bit slightly on a head fake, Jim Leonhard cannot. That will be the difference. Plus, the Ravens' D-line is much better, so I expect the Colts to run the ball better in this game. The Jets' secondary is definitely better as a unit but like someone else said, Dallas Clark and Austin Collie hold the keys for the underneath routes and Joseph Addai along with Mike Hart protecting Manning real well will make that subtle difference for us to be able to score enough points.

This game is still about the Colts' D finally earning the respect it deserves, IMO. The whole NFL will be talking about them after this game is over.

killxswitch
01-19-2010, 01:11 PM
I am leaving it to the Colts players and coaches to not look past the Jets. IMO, they're so close to what the Ravens are as a team it'll be like playing them again with the chance to improve on what didn't work. I think we'll ditch the slow run plays in favor of fast handoffs between the tackles. Our OL can get a push at first but can't hold blocks at all. The stretch and shotgun draw plays won't work. Addai is very good if he doesn't have to think about a bunch of stuff and can just take the hand off and bust through a gap. Hart doesn't have the thinking problem Addai does but is less talented. A good short yardage back.

Defensively, I think we'll see them play at a high level again. Sanchez is healthier than Flacco and has more weapons but less experience. Shonn Greene looks good but Ray Rice is better, as is Chris Johnson who the Colts contained twice this season.

If we don't give up a defensive or ST touchdown I think we will win by 10+ points.

Seamus2602
01-19-2010, 03:12 PM
Shonn Greene looks good but Ray Rice is better, as is Chris Johnson who the Colts contained twice this season.

I think we will struggle against the likes of Shonn Greene more than the likes of Ray Rice or Chris Johnson. Ray Rice is 5'8", 210, Chris Johnson is 5'11", 200, while Shonn Greene is 5'11", 230. Tony Richardson is a significantly better Run Blocker than either Ahmard Hall or Le'Ron McClain, and Greene has 3 Pro Bowlers on his Offensive Line. The Colts D is built to stop people like Johnson and Rice. The difficulty with those two are catching them. Once you get a hand on them you can normally bring them down. Getting a hand on Greene is only half the battle. He, and Thomas Jones, are bruising Power Backs. I expect to see the Jets break a lot of tackles in the game on Sunday.

Plus, the Ravens' D-line is much better, so I expect the Colts to run the ball better in this game.

The inside 5 is probably a bit closer. 3 of the Ravens inside players (Ray Ray, Kelly Gregg and Haloti Ngata) are great but I don't think a lot of Pryce and Ellerbe isn't that great (yet). I also like the inside guys for the Jets (David Harris, Bart Scott, Shaun Ellis) while Pouha and Douglas are better than Pryce and Ellerbe. We won't run on the Jets either so lets not kid ourselves about it.

The Jets' secondary is definitely better as a unit but like someone else said, Dallas Clark and Austin Collie hold the keys for the underneath routes and Joseph Addai along with Mike Hart protecting Manning real well will make that subtle difference for us to be able to score enough points.

We got good exchange out of them with Clark and Collie before the starters were pulled and I wouldn't be shocked to see it again. If the Jets bring 5 or 6 men pressures then Manning should have a field day, but repeatedly against the Chargers the Jets dropped into a Zone cover system and rushed only 4. Manning won't want the Jets defense to dictate what he does or doesn't do. Also, while we can't really compare him against Revis, Reggie Wayne, in the 2 times that he has faced him, has always got decent exchange out of Nnamdi Asomugha. If we get decent exchange out of Revis (maybe 4 or 5 catches, 50-60 yards and possibly a TD) as well as good numbers from Clark, Collie and Garcon then we should do well.

MaxV
01-19-2010, 03:49 PM
I live in NY and read the media here often.

Man, reading the papers here, you'd think we have ZERO shot at beating the Jets.

NY Post has "Hoosier Daddy!" with a picture of Rex Ryan bouncing Peyton on his knee.

Clever, but we'll see who has the last laugh come Sunday.

killxswitch
01-20-2010, 07:42 AM
I think we will struggle against the likes of Shonn Greene more than the likes of Ray Rice or Chris Johnson. Ray Rice is 5'8", 210, Chris Johnson is 5'11", 200, while Shonn Greene is 5'11", 230. Tony Richardson is a significantly better Run Blocker than either Ahmard Hall or Le'Ron McClain, and Greene has 3 Pro Bowlers on his Offensive Line. The Colts D is built to stop people like Johnson and Rice. The difficulty with those two are catching them. Once you get a hand on them you can normally bring them down. Getting a hand on Greene is only half the battle. He, and Thomas Jones, are bruising Power Backs. I expect to see the Jets break a lot of tackles in the game on Sunday.

I might agree with you on the Chris Johnson, but Ray Rice is exactly the type of back the Colts have had a problem tackling in the past. He is like Maurice Jones-Drew in that getting a hand on him is not enough, he's too strong and thick and his center of gravity is too low.

For the sake of comparison, the Colts did very well vs. Willis McGahee this year, who about the same size as Shonn Greene. On the flipside they did have problems with Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams, but I think that had more to do with being underprepared for the Wildcat offense. They had no problems tackling Tim Hightower or Beanie Wells. LenDale White has never given them big problems. I think as long as they don't fall back into trying to get the big shoulder knockdown hit and just stick to fundamentals, the Colts will do pretty well against Greene and Jones.

I also don't agree that Richardson is so much better than Hall or McClain, and I doubt he will be that much more of a difference maker vs. McClain in the last game.

Their OL does appear to be better, probably the best run blocking OL in the league. Our DL will have their work cut out for them, and I expect to see a lot of Foster and Brock at DE early in the game.

RagingColt
01-21-2010, 08:49 PM
Anyone want to buy some Jets AFC Champ merchandise? It's on sale now!

http://www.jetsshop.com/jets/home.php?cat=546

MaxV
01-23-2010, 11:52 PM
Powers doubtful vs. Jets.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2009/news/story?id=4852221

MaxV
01-24-2010, 02:47 PM
Wow, that was HORRIBLE.

Why bring everyone to the line of scrimmage?

Of course they'll pass deep.

MaxV
01-24-2010, 03:01 PM
Wow, just wow.

You can NOT settle for FG there.

Playcalling is terrible.

MaxV
01-24-2010, 05:14 PM
GREAT WIN! We are in the SUPER BOWL! :)

Both the offense and the defense adjusted within the game.

Great to see our Running game working, I hope that continues to be the case in Super Bowl.

Very good balanced effort today. I hope we continue to click on all cylinders in the SB.

MaxV
01-24-2010, 05:18 PM
The Official Super Bowl Thread.

http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=38222

I couldn't help myself. :)

RagingColt
01-24-2010, 10:45 PM
A great win for the Colts and excellent job by Caldwell. Should be a shootout vs the Saints.

chad72
01-24-2010, 11:08 PM
The inside 5 is probably a bit closer. 3 of the Ravens inside players (Ray Ray, Kelly Gregg and Haloti Ngata) are great but I don't think a lot of Pryce and Ellerbe isn't that great (yet). I also like the inside guys for the Jets (David Harris, Bart Scott, Shaun Ellis) while Pouha and Douglas are better than Pryce and Ellerbe. We won't run on the Jets either so lets not kid ourselves about it.


Colts - 101 yards rushing, Jets 86 yards rushing.

What do you have to say now?:)

To be honest, I expect another 100 yard rushing performance against the Saints from the Colts.