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Poz51
01-08-2010, 11:41 AM
First edition of the new year, with the set order up to the play-offs. Sticking with my prediction that N.O. beats Indy in the S.B. If a underclassman is missing, that is because I do not have them declaring, Dunlap, Bailey, Austin, etc. Raiders fans, I gave it an honest effort (No dead Al type picks), only one DE this time ;) I was not able to respond to the last edition, but will have more time to in this one. I included some thoughts, and reasoning. As always all intelligent feedback is appreciated!! Rip it up, enjoy!!

2010 Mock Draft

Round 1
1 – St. Louis – Jimmy Clausen (QB – Notre Dame)
With Locker out of the picture no one benefits more than Clausen who moves all the way up to number one. The Rams are starting Keith Null at quarterback, a West Texas A & M project who is at best 10 years away from being a competent back up. Clausen gives the franchise a face, although no one could blame the Rams for taking Suh, and although they probably should, they go quarterback and continue to lay the foundation for the future on offense.
2 – Detroit – Ndamukong Suh (DT – U. Nebraska)
Lions fans rejoice!! The Rams passed on Suh, and Detroit gets the best player in the draft with the second pick. If you haven’t watched this guy play, shame on you, a monster who might be the best defensive tackle prospect this decade. Suh is solid against the run, and an absolute beast against the pass, who single handedly kept Nebraska in the Big Ten Championship game against Texas. Ndamukong instantly upgrades the Lions defense, and is a better value than Okung, who will be the choice if Suh is gone and protecting the franchise is priority number one.
3 – Tampa Bay – Gerald McCoy (DT – Oklahoma)
Tampa needs help on the defensive front, and gets the best player available. McCoy is a disruptive force who might be the best penetrating DT in this draft class. Capable of altering the out come of any game, McCoy is not a bad consolation prize in Suh derby. Maybe, just maybe the Lions pick up Okung to protect Stafford…
4 – Washington – Sam Bradford (QB – Oklahoma)
Not the most popular pick for Skin’s fans, but it makes some sense. With Shanahan in, abd Campbell out, Bradford is the best option available at QB. New coaches picking in the top five more often than not mean a new quarterback is priority number one. Bradford being the pick means his shoulder checked out. The Skins really need to address the Oline, and Okung should be the pick if they choose to address their biggest need first, but with Shanahan having the final say, he wants to build his offense at the most important position on the field first. I know Bradford does not fit the Mike Shanahan mold (Gunslinger, fiery, etc.), or the Bruce Allen mold (no first round qb’s for some time, how did that work out for Tampa?), but his value is in his being coachable, proven history against top competition, accuracy and football instincts. Then again, they could go Okung, or make a trade for Cutler, you never know… This pick will certainly depend on the direction the organization takes as the draft approaches. This pick is one of the toughest to mock for until some organizational direction is established, one I don’t like personally, and see changing in my next edition.
5 – Kansas City – Rolando McClain (LB – Alabama)
Tough to pass on Berry with Brown and McGraw leading pack, but McClain is no slouch on the field either. Tough, smart, and an athletically gifted specimen, McClain plays the run as well as any linebacker coming into the draft this decade, and is a reliable defender in coverage. Pioli knows how important a smart defensive quarterback is, and McClain has all the tools to be the player/coach on the field who could one day have a bust in Canton.
6 – Seattle – Russell Okung (LT – Ok. State)
Walter Jones is 35, his age is clearly affecting his ability to even get on the field, and what has been a stellar career should be over before the six time all-pro becomes a punch line. In comes Okung who allows the Seahawks to protect Hasselbeck now and Locker or whomever in the future. Okung is not the mauler in the run game that Davis is, not as athletic as Campbell, but overall the best proven pass protector in the draft, and can hold his own in the run game. Okung could very likely be taken by the Skins, in which case Bradford could be a viable option, unless they plan on tanking the season next year to get Locker…
7 – Cleveland – Eric Berry (S – Tennessee)
In a draft heavy with top end defensive talent, Berry is arguably at the top of the list. I believe he is the second best player in the draft after Suh, and that is a 1a/1b type of situation. Berry is Ed Reed clone, and true playmaker in every sense of the word, and would make a similar impact on Cleveland’s 3-4 should they continue to run it. He could very well go to Tampa Bay, K.C. or Seattle and not even be an option for the Browns, but he falls and Cleveland could not be happier.
8 – Oakland – Derrick Morgan (DE – G.T.)
Ellis is 34, and despite solid play from Shaughnessy, Richardson and company, Seymour is the only true difference maker on the edge. Morgan would allow Seymour to slide inside on passing downs, and further enhance the Raiders pass rush, which will need to be aggressive considering the way the AFC west likes to sling the ball around. Morgan has been consistently productive, improved his ability against the run, and is an excellent pass rusher. I would not be surprised if J.P.P. (Dead Al and his fascination with speed/athleticism) is the pick here based on his athletic ability, or if the Raiders went with Oline based on need as well with this pick. Morgan I believe is under rated, the most well rounded defensive end in the draft and will stand out at the combine, solidifying himself as a productive top ten pick, and a three down player in the NFL.
9 – Buffalo – Anthony Davis (LT – Rutgers)
Buffalo sweats through the last five picks hoping an offensive lineman worth taking in the top ten falls to them. Having passed on Oher last year the Bills quickly jump on Davis and land the second best overall prospect at left tackle in this draft. Davis is a mauler in the run game, and is more than capable of holding his own in pass protection.
10 – Jacksonville – Jason Pierre-Paul (DE – U.S.F.)
I can’t believe the rise of J.P.P. but it appears to be happening never the less. The potential is there, but I am not sure of the production game in and game out. However Jag’s fans can rejoice in the fact that first of all he is not Tim Tebow, and secondly he is not a Gator defensive end. J.P.P. provides a much needed pass rush, which despite recent high pick failures being used to address the situation, needs to be addressed regardless, or else they stay in the division’s basement, and possibly move out of Jacksonville.
11 – Denver (Via Chicago) – Joe Haden (CB – Florida)
Tough call for Denver, especially if Marshall finds his way out of Denver. In that case Bryant is going to be very hard to pass up. For now I have Marshall working things out with McDaniels and staying in Denver. So the Bronco’s take Haden, who gives them a Winfield type physical corner, who is better in coverage, and an leader in the secondary for years to come.
12 – Miami – Dez Bryant (WR – Ok. St.)
“Parcells doesn’t draft first round receivers” If Henne is going to put the ball in the air 55 times, maybe the best receiver in the draft would be a nice option to throw the ball to, maybe say better than Ted Ginn Jr…
Bryants 2008 stats compared to Crabtree’s 2008 stats.
Bryant - 2008 87 1480 17.0 80 19
Crabtree - 2008 97 1165 12.0 82 19
Fewer catches, more yards, better average, same number of touchdowns. If Bryant falls and Parcells passes, believing that Hartline, Bess, Ginn, Camarillo, or Turner are a number one receiver, and difference maker, than he’s clearly lost it. Crabtree should have gone seventh last year, Bryant is every bit as good, and a steal at 12 in this draft. BPA...
13 – San Francisco – Earl Thomas (S – Texas)
The 9ers are interesting team to mock for, is Clements moving to safety (I doubt it)? With the emergence of Brooks, and the team being third in the league in sacks, is a pass rusher a top priority? Is it time to look for a new corner this early in the draft? Will Joe Staley ever take over the left tackle spot? What is the deal with the right tackle spot? In comes Earl Thomas, who allows Dashon Gholston to play SS, giving the 9ers two safeties who can hit, make plays in coverage and allow greater schematic flexibility. Thomas may not even declare, but he is a ballhawk, who is always around the action, tough for his size and willing to lay his body on the line. An Singletary guy all the way. Haden would be tough to pass up if he falls, and a tackle will be available with the next pick.
14 – Seattle (Via Denver) – C.J. Spiller (RB – Clemson)
Mays is hard to pass up, and the defense as a whole needs to be looked at and addressed. Despite the emergence of Forsett this year as a good, stable back, Spiller is special, and will draw comparisons to Chris Johnson, in his ability to hit the home run, and take any run all the way. Spiller is a triple threat, running, catching, returning and can take over a game by himself. The Seahawks go BPA and keep building the offense with an eye on the future.
15 – N.Y.G. – Taylor Mays (S – U.S.C.)
Mays instantly upgrades the Giants run defense from the secondary, while providing range, and capability in coverage. Giants go with the best player available and give themselves a great safety combination with a healthy Phillips.
16 – Tennessee – Sean Weatherspoon (LB – Mizzu.)
Weatherspoon provides a smooth transition out of the Keith Bullock era, and in many ways reminds me of Bullock. With Vanden Bosch and Kearse starting to show their age, a defensive end is a real possibility, and Harper being a young 35, a corner opposite Finnegan is in need too, but Weatherspoon provides the best fit interms of need and value.
17 – San Francisco (Via Carolina).– Bruce Campbell (T – Maryland)Campbell is full of potential, great feet (when they are on the field), and athleticism. Singeltary will get the most out of Campbell and get a tackle who could help Smith become the quarterback the 9ers envisioned when he was the first pick in the draft.
18 – Pittsburgh – Terrance Cody (DT – Alabama)
Cody comes into the combine in shape, and impresses. Hampton moves on to greener pastures, and this pick becomes a match made in heaven. Mount Cody anchor’s the Steelers defense of the present into future or the next 5 years of his contract or longer.
19 – Atlanta – Patrick Robinson (CB – Florida State)
Robinson is either a reach at this point or a good pick being the second best corner in the draft, all depending on who you ask… Robinson is the most fluid corner in the draft, despite having had a bit of a down year, had a excellent 2008 season, and is the number one rated senior corner in the draft on several websites and scouting services. I believe this is a bit early for Griffen, and Kindle, and Robinson best fits the need/value in this spot, so Atlanta takes the second overall corner in the draft, despite what I think will be efforts to trade down and pick up a second or extra third round pick to address all their needs on defense.
20 – Houston – Jahvid Best (RB – Cal)
Has a Gary Kubiak team ever drafted a running back in the first round? No… Is Steve Slaton gonna fumble the Texans a game or two out of the playoffs? Yes… Best is arguably the best if not second best back in the draft, a threat to take it to the endzone any time he touches the ball, and a reliable third down back. Injury concerns are justified, but not a consistant deal breaker, and after an electrifying pro day, and combine Best will move up draft boards, and provide the Texans with a game breaking back to fully open up the offense.
21 – N.Y.J – Arthur Jones (DT/DE – Syracuse)
Ellis and Douglas are both 33 next year, and Jones has the motor and intangibles to be a cornerstone of the Jets defense for years. A pass rusher is hard to pass up, Hughes or Graham could provide stability with rushing the passer, and will be tough to pass up.
22 – Baltimore – Arrelious Benn (WR – U. Illinois)
Talented receiving option who has been poorly utilized at Illinois. Benn gives Flacco a true number one recieving threat, and option outside of Mason and Heap who can not play forever. Or can they…
23 – Arizona – Jerry Hughes (DE/OLB – TCU)
Arizona upgrades the pass rush with the relentless Hughes who could be a 4-3 end, or 3-4 rush backer, exactly what the Cardinals need.
24 – Cincinnati – Jermaine Gresham (TE – Oklahoma)
Like Bradford before him, Gresham checks out medically, and re-establishes as the premier tight end in the draft. A capable blocker, Gresham is a receiving threat who knows how to get open, and find soft spots in the defense, giving Cincy a tight end who can open up the offense, taking some of the pressure receivers and provide Palmer with the option he has lacked since entering the league.
25 – New England – Sergio Kindle (OLB – U. Texas)Athletically gifted underachiever, who Belichick will mold into his next great pass rusher. Kindle is talented and a strong combine in addition to pre-draft work outs could put his stock back into the top half of the draft, or result into him falling into the second round.
26 – Green Bay – Jason Fox (LT – Miami)
The offense is special with out a quality left tackle in place due to injuries, Fox comes in stabilizes the left side of the offensive line for the rest of Rodgers career, and the offense keeps producing. Chad Clifton being 34 next year, and being injured most of this year, make this decision/choice easy. Bulaga and Ducasse are good fits in terms being acclimated to the weather conditions, and could be good fits as well.
27 – Philadelphia – Brandon Graham (DE – Michigan)
A relentless motor, hard worker, with excellent strength, and pure football instincts will fit in well opposite Trent Cole. A fan favorite, who is productive, and always gives 110%. A Eagle type of player, and natural fit.
28 – Dallas – Jared Odrick (DE/DT – P.S.U.)
Odrick is an athletic, penetrating defensive tackle who transitions to defensive end for the Cowboys, replacing Spears. Odrick was an absolute force at Penn State, and is capable of success as a 3-4 end. With his ability to get off the snap and be disruptive in
the opponents backfield, he will fit right in Dallas.
29 – Minnesota – Chad Jones (S – L.S.U.)As physical and Laron Laundry, and better in coverage, Jones can play either safety spot
and instantly help the secondary in run support, and coverage. Very instinctual, and having excellent football sense, Jones is my third rated safety and could go higher depending on pre draft workouts. Could stay in school and not be available.
30 – San Diego – Jonathan Dwyer (RB – G.T.)
Tomlinson is no the down side of his illustrious career, Sproles makes too much money for his role, and Dwyer gives them a work horse back with the potential to wear out defenses in tough weather games, and be a feature back.
31 – Indianapolis – Bryan Bulaga (LT – U. Iowa)
Peyton Mannings blind side has been iffy, Ugoh has run cold, and Johnson is better
suited to play guard. Bulaga has shown some vulnerability, but has tons of potential and
ability.
32 – New Orleans – Brian Price (DT – UCLA)
The Saints go best player available, and Price teams up with Ellis to give the Saints the best you DT combination in the league. With Grant getting up there in age, and injuries becoming a concern, defensive end is a real possibility, as is OLB as usual, but the Saints take the productive Price, and value at the end of the first round.


Round 2
33 – St. Louis – Golden Tate (WR – Notre Dame)
Tate knows Clausen, and Clausen is comfortable throwing to Tate. The Rams receivers nothing to write home about, and a Tate/Avery combination gives Clausen a chance.
34 – Detroit – Donovan Warren (CB – Michigan)
Warren to me is a little under cooked, and could have used another year at Michigan, but the talent is there, and Detroit stays in state in the second round.
35 – Tampa Bay – Everson Griffen (DE –U.S.C.)
The Buc’s get a potential steal, and drafts the talented Griffen who pairs up with McCoy to provide a upgraded defensive front.
36 – Washington – Trent Williams (T – Oklahoma)
More athletic than he is given credit for, the Skins take a potential left tackle, at worst a right tackle who helps stabilize the offensive line.
37 – Kansas City – Mike Iupati (G/T – Idaho)
Easily the best guard in the draft, could possibly play right tackle, either way provides flexibility along the offensive line, and best value at this point in the draft.
38 – Seattle – Nate Allen (S – U.S.F.)
Allen helps stabilize the secondary.
39 – Cleveland – Ricky Sapp (OLB/DE – Clemson)
Pass rusher who along with Berry dramatically improve the defense as a whole.
40 – Oakland – Charles Brown (LT – U.S.C.)
The Raiders take the local product, and a legitimate LT prospect to protect the Bruce.
41 – Buffalo – Navorro Bowman (LB – Penn. St.)
Extremely instinctual, and fills a need, while being the best value for Buffalo.
42 – Tampa Bay (Via Chicago) – Damian Williams (WR – U.S.C.)
With defense being address with the first two picks, the draft looks to go on the offensive and with all the turn over at wide receiver, the Buc’s look to add a weapon for Freeman.
43 – New England (Via Jacksonville) – Corey Wootten (DE – Northwestern)
An upgrade over Green, and depth along the defensive line.
44 – Miami – Reshad Jones (S – Georgia)
Help in the secondary, a building block that will help build one of the best secondary’s in the league.
45 – San Francisco – Brandon Spikes (MLB – Florida)
Spikes and Willis > Spikes and Willis… Not by much, the eye is on the future, and Spikes learns how to be a professional from TKO himself.
46 – Denver – Mike Johnson (G – Alabama)
Upgrade over Kuper, solid in the run and pass.
47 – N.Y.G. – Dan Williams (DT – Tennessee)
A hot and cold motor drop Williams into the second round, and right into the Giants lap.
48 – New England (Via Tennessee) – Vladimir Ducasse (G/T – Umass)
Quickly rising up draft boards, offers flexibility along the line for the Patriots, and is
already acclimated to the weather. Helps the run game as well.
49 – Carolina – Greg Hardy (DE – Ole Miss)
Opposite Peppers, Hardy will be free to hopefully not get injured and live up to his potential, falls over injury concerns, potential is too much to pass up.
50 – Pittsburgh – Major Wright (S – Florida)
A NFL Draft Countdown favorite, who I think is a little over rated right now, but would look good next to Troy, and helps stabilize the other safety spot.
51 – Kansas City (Via Atlanta) – Brandon Lang (OLB/DE – Troy)
This could be too high for Lang who appears to be falling down draft boards, but the Chiefs need someone too take some of the pressure off Hali in the pass rush.
52 – Houston – Larry Asante (S – Nebraska)
Asante gives the Texans a well rounded safety with good instincts and football sense. Asante teams up with Pollard stabilizing the safety spots in the Texans secondary.
53 – N.Y.J. – Eric Norwood (OLB – S. Carolina)
More of a 4-3 OLB to me, who excels in the pass rush, which is why I believe he could adapt to the 3-4 rush backer spot, has the size and experience to adapt to a new system.
54 – Baltimore – Perrish Cox (CB – Ok. St.)
A steal for Baltimore who is in need of secondary help, and gets a first round talent.
55 – Arizona – Selvish Capers (LT – W.V.U)
Help at the tackle spot is never a bad thing, and Capers could excel given some time to develop.
56 – Cincinnati – Morgan Burnett (S – G.T.)
Greatest value for the need.
57 – New England – Toby Gerhart (RB – Stanford)
Gerhart fits the weather, reminds me of C. Dillon for the Pats.
58 – Green Bay – Ryan Marshall (RB – Fresno St.)
Ultra productive, helps stabilize the Packers backfield.
59 – Philadelphia – Darryl Washington (OLB – T.C.U.)
Aggressive and instinctual, plays strong side for the Eagles.
60 – Dallas – Tony Washington (LT – Abilene Christian)
Flozell Adams may have committed as many if not more penelties than he is years old season, neither of which is a good thing. Washington playing for Dallas just doesn’t right but, this Washington is given the time needed to develop his potential.
61 – Minnesota – Colt McCoy (QB – Texas)
One eye on the future and year behind Favre could pay-off for the Vikings down the road.
62 – San Diego – Ciron Black (RT – L.S.U.)
An upgrade over Dombrowski.
63 – Indianapolis – Kristopher O’Dowd (C – U.S.C.)
Insurance for Saturday (retirement/injury) and a future star, who’s value is too much for
the Colts to pass up.
64 – New Orleans – Roddrick Muckelroy (OLB – Texas)
At times this year Muckelroy was the best player in the Texas defense, and that is saying something. The Saints think about Veldheer at tackle, but opt to continue the building of defense.

Round 3
65 – St. Louis – Brandon Ghee (CB – W.F.)
Good value, good player, good pick overall.
66 – Detroit – Jared Veldheer (LT – Hillsdale)
A project who could develop into Stafford’s personal body guard.
67 – Tampa Bay –Kyle Wilson (CB – Boise St.)
A solid all around corner, who could give the Buc’s great one/two corner combination.
68 – Washington – Forfeit
69 – Kansas City – Anthony McCoy (TE – U.S.C.)
Having missed out on the top safeties in the first two rounds, Kansas City looks to upgrade the tight end spot, and get the most value with this pick.
70 – Philadelphia (Via Seattle) – Javier Arenas (CB – Alabama)
I personally cant stand Macho Harris, or his inability to return kicks, Arenas helps the return game, and provides depth at corner in the secondary.
71 – Cleveland – Vince Oghobaase (DE/DT – Duke)
Oghobaase could help stabilize a front that looked confused for most of the season.
72 – Oakland – Jerome Murphy (CB – U.S.F.)
Murphy makes it two successful Murphy’s in consecutive drafts for the Raiders, and an upgrade over Johnson opposite Asomugha.
73 – Buffalo – Brandon Lafell (WR – L.S.U.)
Hard to pass up on Tony Pike in this spot, but Lafell’s value is too much to pass up after his unexpected fall.
74 – Jacksonville – Tim Tebow (QB –Florida)
After not reaching for the Tebow in the first, the Jaguars are rewarded with him falling to them in the third.
75 – Chicago – Jon Asamoah (G – Illinois)
When I see the Bears current depth chart, and the guards within set depth chart, I think of vommiting... Weird I know….
76 – Miami – Phil Taylor (DT – Baylor)
3-4 run stuffing defensive tackle, with great upside, just short of seasoning, which will come in time.
77 – San Francisco – Mardy Gilyard (WR – Cinci)
To much value to pass up, helps in the return game, and could be a outstanding slot receiver, or number two if Morgan slips.
78 – Denver – Danario Alexander (WR – Mizzu)
Insurance in case Marshall leaves/gets suspended/etc, and 6’5” receivers are becoming all the rage in the AFC West.
79 – N.Y.G. – J.D. Walton (C – Baylor)
Time to think of the future along the offensive line and Walton is an excellent value.
80 – Tennessee – Austen Lane (DE – Murray St.)
Size and athleticism help Lane make an impact in his first year in Tennessee.
81 – Carolina – Tyson Alualu (DT – Cal.)
Replaces the 35 year old Hollis Thomas, and has a frame that can carry more weight, and still maintain his athleticism.
82 – Pittsburgh – Trevard Lindley (CB – Kentucky)
An upgrade over William ***, and another building block on defense.
83 – Atlanta – Justin Cole (OLB – S.J.S)
Cole is an athletic talent, who is a better player than most realize. I believe he could take over for Peterson within the first five games of the season if not sooner.
84 – Houston – Matt Tennant (C – B.C.)
Tennant comes in and immediately takes over for Myers, anchoring the offensive line.
85 – Cleveland (via N.Y.J.) – Syd’Quan Thompson (CB – Cal.)
A under rated ballhawk, who helps solidify the corner spot opposite Wright, or in the nickel.
86 – Baltimore – Jimmy Graham (TE – Miami)
Surprise pick by the Ravens, but at 6’8” and as athletically gifted as he is, Graham could learn a lot from Heap, and then replace him down the road. Graham is a red zone nightmare for opponents
87 – Arizona – Dennis Pitta (TE – B.Y.U.)
Better than any tight end on the current roster, and more productive receiver who opens the passing game even more, if that is possible.
88 – Cincinnati – A.J. Edds (OLB – Iowa)
Always around the ball, always in position, just a solid dependable backer who can be counted on game in and game out.
89 – Oakland (via N.E.) – D’Anthony Smith (DT – La. Tech.)
Needs some seasoning, but his athleticism makes him tough to pass on.
90 – Green Bay – Myron Lewis (CB - Vandy)
Eventually old corners get old, and play old, Lewis is drafted with an eye on the future.
91 – Philadelphia – Pat Angerer (ILB – Iowa)
With a nose for the ball, and excellent football sense, Angerer fits right into the middle of Eagles defense.
92 – Dallas – Darrell Stuckey (S – Kansas)
The safety situation in Dallas needs an upgrade, and Stuckey is the man for the job.
93 – Minnesota – Montario Hardesty (RB – Tennessee)
Chester Taylor leaves in free agency and Montario steps in, a third round steal.
94 – San Diego – T.J. Ward (S – Oregon)
Starter from day one at SS.
95 – Indianapolis – Tony Pike (QB – Cincy)
A steal in the third round, Painter looks horrible, and is Sorgi the future?
96 – New Orleans – C.J. Wilson (DE – E.C.U.)
Productive, high motor that might run higher in the 4th quarter than in the first, and the type of player who gives a max effort every play no matter the score, and a player to keep your eye on as the draft process moves along.

phlysac
01-08-2010, 11:57 AM
13 – San Francisco – Earl Thomas (S – Texas)
The 9ers are interesting team to mock for, is Clements moving to safety (I doubt it)? With the emergence of Brooks, and the team being third in the league in sacks, is a pass rusher a top priority? Is it time to look for a new corner this early in the draft? Will Joe Staley ever take over the left tackle spot? What is the deal with the right tackle spot? In comes Earl Thomas, who allows Dashon Gholston to play SS, giving the 9ers two safeties who can hit, make plays in coverage and allow greater schematic flexibility. Thomas may not even declare, but he is a ballhawk, who is always around the action, tough for his size and willing to lay his body on the line. An Singletary guy all the way. Haden would be tough to pass up if he falls, and a tackle will be available with the next pick.

17 – San Francisco (Via Carolina).– Bruce Campbell (T – Maryland)Campbell is full of potential, great feet (when they are on the field), and athleticism. Singeltary will get the most out of Campbell and get a tackle who could help Smith become the quarterback the 9ers envisioned when he was the first pick in the draft.

45 – San Francisco – Brandon Spikes (MLB – Florida)
Spikes and Willis > Spikes and Willis… Not by much, the eye is on the future, and Spikes learns how to be a professional from TKO himself.

77 – San Francisco – Mardy Gilyard (WR – Cinci)
To much value to pass up, helps in the return game, and could be a outstanding slot receiver, or number two if Morgan slips.


Not much to complain about in this scenario. Not all of my personal "favorites" but all great players at positions of need without sacrificing draft value.

Young Legend
01-08-2010, 12:11 PM
Damn cant complain about 1 raider pick.

T-RICH49
01-08-2010, 12:19 PM
Darrell Stuckey in rd 3 please.you said it in rd 1 McGraw and Brown = me :(

Abaddon
01-08-2010, 12:21 PM
Should have been all O-line for the Raiders. :D

Grizzlegom
01-08-2010, 12:34 PM
Love the first Phins pick but the next two don't do it for me.

Jones is a SS, we have 3 starting caliber SS already and what we really need is a FS.

Phil Taylor is a trouble-maker and had a bad season, pretty sure he is staying in school.

Razor
01-08-2010, 12:55 PM
Good Pats mock, thumb up! :)

I don't like the selection of Gerhart though, at least not considering who's available:
Javier Arenas
Brandon LaFell
Kristopher O'Dowd
Jon Asamoah

These guys would've been much better selection, but the other picks are very good.

Finz99
01-08-2010, 01:10 PM
I love you and all three dolphins picks.

Pat Sims 90
01-08-2010, 01:23 PM
Perfect Bengals Mock even though OLB is not a need Edds it is to good to pass up in the 3rd Round

Unbiased
01-08-2010, 01:26 PM
I would take Joe Haden over Jason Pierre-Paul everyday, even though DE is a bigger need than corner. Haden's an elite corner...best in the draft. It would be faulty to pass him up there with McClain and Morgan off the board.

yodapoop
01-08-2010, 01:38 PM
I'd be content with this draft, especially if we could get Tate along with Claussen (just wish we coulda went after Weis then as OC and become Notre Dame West). I would prefer taking Suh and possibly taking a QB in the 2nd. But just as u said about Suh, I would not blame or be mad at us for taking Claussen.

RealityCheck
01-08-2010, 01:39 PM
Terrific Pats mock.

ramsfan308
01-08-2010, 02:14 PM
Great Rams draft. However, I think if they want Clausen, they will attempt to trade down and pick up an extra second round pick, maybe Tampa's, and Griffen would be a good pick for us there.

prock
01-08-2010, 02:59 PM
LOVE the picks for the vikings. i personally think nate allen is better than chad jones, but either way you got the position right, and the rest is jsut differing opinion. not gonna lie, havent evern seen hardesty play, but if you think he is in the chester taylor mold, i wont complain. wouldnt mind seeing joe mcknight there :) good job on three rounds.

coordinator0
01-08-2010, 03:00 PM
That my friend is a beautiful Ravens mock. Graham in the third seems a bit high, but he would be able to learn under Heap for a couple years or so.

RaiderNation
01-08-2010, 03:15 PM
Thats alot better mocks for Oakland than Ive seen

Hurricanes25
01-08-2010, 03:32 PM
I love the Jets draft.

DiG
01-08-2010, 03:36 PM
You say you dont like the Bradford pick and will likely change but you still went with it? Until Bradford proves otherwise (doctor reports, workouts, interviews, etc) hes not a top 5 pick right now. Add that to the factors you already mentioned about not fitting either Bruce Allen or Shanahans mold or draft history and you have a pick that makes no sense. You can't coach the intangibles or mobility or arm strength no matter how "coachable" someone is. I dont even know for sure that Okung is the right fit either. Have to wait to see more from his workouts to see if Shanny thinks he fits the zbs.

Williams Im still on the fence with as a fit for the Skins. He's more of a bull rusher but he has shown that he can be light on his feet also and finishes every play.

vidae
01-08-2010, 04:00 PM
That is one of the best Chiefs drafts I've seen on these boards yet, with one exception. I still have faith that Cottam can be productive here so instead of McCoy I'd love to see Mardy Gilyard or Matt Tennant wearing KC red.

I absolutely love the first two rounds though. McClain, Iupati and Lang would be a dream KC draft.

Splat
01-08-2010, 04:27 PM
That is one of the best Chiefs drafts I've seen on these boards yet, with one exception. I still have faith that Cottam can be productive here so instead of McCoy I'd love to see Mardy Gilyard or Matt Tennant wearing KC red.

I absolutely love the first two rounds though. McClain, Iupati and Lang would be a dream KC draft.

I liked the draft well done.

I also have faith Cottam can play but I don't believe he can stay on the field he was hurt in college all the time and that hasn't changed so far in the NFL.

Nalej
01-08-2010, 04:33 PM
Love the Pats mock

T-RICH49
01-08-2010, 04:35 PM
so no S doe'nt bother you?I mean you wanna go through last year again?

vidae
01-08-2010, 04:44 PM
No, I expect Page to be starting next year and if we were able to get more pressure on the QB (which Lang directly addresses) then our safeties won't be exposed as much.

Splat
01-08-2010, 05:16 PM
so no S doe'nt bother you?I mean you wanna go through last year again?


You know you can add players besides just the draft. :)

KennyG
01-08-2010, 05:55 PM
I havn't seen E. Griffen fall that far in any mock but he would indeed be a second round steal... Hit on the positions of greatest need for the Buc's through the first 3 rounds imo..
Nice mock for the Buc's...

derza222
01-08-2010, 07:23 PM
Not sure if the Jets go offense or defense since the offense needs a little more help at the moment, but if they do go defense I'm a huge fan of both of those picks.

HighFivingMF
01-08-2010, 07:55 PM
Don't hate any individual pick, but no way Browns go defense on first 4 picks. Maybe replace first 3rd rounder with WR like Lafell or Gilyard. Love Syd'Quan though, and of course would be ecstatic with Berry.

Poz51
01-09-2010, 11:31 AM
Not much to complain about in this scenario. Not all of my personal "favorites" but all great players at positions of need without sacrificing draft value.

I thought it was a good value draft for the 9ers, Thomas could help immediatly in coverage, and reminds me of Bob Sanders in his physical play (not that he is a good in that regards by any means, but better in coverage). Campbell could use some time, but develop into something special if he can stay healthy and focused, Spikes and Gylard are just too good to pass up. I thought this mock would really help solidify the foundation for the 9ers moving forward.

Poz51
01-09-2010, 11:36 AM
Damn cant complain about 1 raider pick.

A good mock all around for the Bay area I thought, personally I like Morgan a lot, plays the run well, improving each year, and in terms of the pass rush, he uses his hands well, and has a strong bull rush that he uses to push tackles into the quarterback. I am not as high on Brown as many are, but can see the potential. Murphy is a guy I like, physical, athletic and plays with intensity. Smith is someone I have not seen much of, but the word on the street about him is good and seems to fit Oakland as a potential starter eventually.

marshallb
01-09-2010, 02:35 PM
Good Vikings mock. I'm not as high on Chad Jones as you are, as I like Nate Allen as well as Reshad Jones and Morgan Burnett more at this time, but all of those guys are in the same tier imo. Colt McCoy is a great pick in the 2nd round, great value and fills a huge need. Hardesty is a good pick as well. Nice counter to AD although I'm not exactly sure just how good he is out of the backfield.
That'd be an A draft assuming we keep Edwards and Pat stays for one more year, which it appears as though he will as we didn't win the Super Bowl according to your mock.

thebow305
01-09-2010, 02:40 PM
Dez Bryant is the perfect Phins pick in the 1st, but that draft would be perfect if we took Dan Williams in the 2nd and then Jimmy Graham in the 3rd.

If the draft fell that way, we would HAVE to take Dan Williams in the 2nd, as that would be a HUGE steal and would allow us to address our two biggest needs right away in a big way.

Poz51
01-11-2010, 08:07 AM
Darrell Stuckey in rd 3 please.you said it in rd 1 McGraw and Brown = me :(

Stuckey would be a good fit, a chose McCoy as a better value, and with Charlie Weis coming into be the offensive coordinator, I personally think that they are going to try to utilize the tight end more. Safties like Kam Chancellor, Robert Johnson, Terrell Skinner, Harry and Kurt Coleman, Myron Rolle, Kyle Mcarthy and others are still available in the forth round, although not as solid a group of prospects as the one's taken already, still a good group in terms of potential. Like I said before, just like it is with Buffalo, and St. Louis etc, its impossible to fill all a teams needs with the best talent possible with three or four picks, and there is a reason these teams are picking in the top ten... Appreciate the feed back!

gdamac
01-11-2010, 09:33 AM
I would prefer...

8 – Oakland – Anthony Davis (LT – Rutgers)

40 – Oakland – Dan Williams (DT – Tennessee) (Of course it might be a little awkward drafting a kid from Kiffin's program, but hey, Al won't make this pick anyway, so...)

72 – Oakland – J.D. Walton (C – Baylor)

89 – Oakland (via N.E.) – Pat Angerer (ILB – Iowa)

Poz51
01-11-2010, 10:48 AM
Should have been all O-line for the Raiders. :D

Or D-line :p I was thinking about mocking for the Raiders based on 40 times, but there is no way Dead Al would ever do that :eek:
Seriously, I think this would be a successful draft for the Raiders, I am not high on Brown, but Ive been wrong before, really like the other picks personally, but Al doesnt consult with me :(

Poz51
01-11-2010, 10:55 AM
I would prefer...

8 – Oakland – Anthony Davis (LT – Rutgers)
Certainly would make sense, and would break my heart as a Bills fan, and it came down to Morgan/Davis when I did this mock, with Morgan having a better grade by a slim margin. Im sure in the end J.P.P. runs a 4.5-.6 forty and Al takes him instead... Does Al feel burned from the failed Gallery LT pick, and pass on Davis?

40 – Oakland – Dan Williams (DT – Tennessee) (Of course it might be a little awkward drafting a kid from Kiffin's program, but hey, Al won't make this pick anyway, so...)
A possibility, but what does make sense when the Raiders pick lately?

72 – Oakland – J.D. Walton (C – Baylor)
Would make sense as well

89 – Oakland (via N.E.) – Pat Angerer (ILB – Iowa)
I thought Morrison held his own this year, but was not impressed with Howard, and was thinking about an outside replacement... I like Angerer alot, why do you think he should be the pick here?

Poz51
01-11-2010, 11:15 AM
Love the first Phins pick but the next two don't do it for me.

Jones is a SS, we have 3 starting caliber SS already and what we really need is a FS.

Phil Taylor is a trouble-maker and had a bad season, pretty sure he is staying in school.

I would disagree that Jones is purely a SS, I think he is athletic enough, and has the range/ball skills to be a FS as well, but understand your point of view. I expect him to project to FS after the combine and workouts. So we'll see... Taylor's potential is why I have him in that spot, and I have not heard if he is leaning either way, but would certainly understand him staying in school, I am not sure if he has gotten in much trouble since leaving penn st. You know something I dont??

Poz51
01-11-2010, 11:24 AM
:) Good Pats mock, thumb up! :)

I don't like the selection of Gerhart though, at least not considering who's available:
Javier Arenas
Brandon LaFell
Kristopher O'Dowd
Jon Asamoah

These guys would've been much better selection, but the other picks are very good.

I think Gerhart add's a physical runner who N.E. is sorely lacking, and would add a dimension lacking since Dillon was a Pat, and the one dimensional passing attack isnt going to cut it... O'Dowd makes alot of sense as does Asamoah, and Lafell would be a good pick up as well. Arenas would make sense, but I dont think he would be a good value at that spot with some of the other needs taken into consideration... Thanks for the feedback :)

Poz51
01-11-2010, 11:26 AM
I love you and all three dolphins picks.

Your alright yourself, a little to short for my liking :p Glad one Fins fan does :)

Poz51
01-11-2010, 11:32 AM
Perfect Bengals Mock even though OLB is not a need Edds it is to good to pass up in the 3rd Round

I was not sure if Malualuga is going to move back inside sooner rather than later, because of Jones solid play this season, but Jones is getting older, and Edds is pick with the eye on the future, and I thought good value as well. Thanks for the feedback!

Poz51
01-11-2010, 11:35 AM
I would take Joe Haden over Jason Pierre-Paul everyday, even though DE is a bigger need than corner. Haden's an elite corner...best in the draft. It would be faulty to pass him up there with McClain and Morgan off the board.

I would agree 100%, but the Jags have to find someone to rush the passer, or else they are really stuck in neutral, with there wheels spinning going up against the teams in that division. Personally I am with you, logically I went with my feeling that pass rush is the number one priority...

Poz51
01-11-2010, 11:39 AM
I'd be content with this draft, especially if we could get Tate along with Claussen (just wish we coulda went after Weis then as OC and become Notre Dame West). I would prefer taking Suh and possibly taking a QB in the 2nd. But just as u said about Suh, I would not blame or be mad at us for taking Claussen.

Tate and Claussen is a real possibility, and I would think that drafting the two of them would lessen the learning curve for both of them, and Tate would help balance the speed of Avery. I couldnt blame them for taking Suh, but I think they need a face at QB for the franchise, and Claussen is the best all around prospect at qb in this draft in my mind. Either way though I think it is a win for the Rams...

ninernation8
01-11-2010, 03:07 PM
great first two picks for the niners! love Cambell i just hope he falls to us!

Rosebud
01-11-2010, 07:17 PM
Love that mock for the giants, only change I'd make would be having us grab Tennant in round three. He's exactly the type of lineman we love, smart, athletic, tough and went to BC.

gdamac
01-12-2010, 12:22 AM
8 – Oakland – Anthony Davis (LT – Rutgers)
Certainly would make sense, and would break my heart as a Bills fan, and it came down to Morgan/Davis when I did this mock, with Morgan having a better grade by a slim margin. Im sure in the end J.P.P. runs a 4.5-.6 forty and Al takes him instead... Does Al feel burned from the failed Gallery LT pick, and pass on Davis?

40 – Oakland – Dan Williams (DT – Tennessee) (Of course it might be a little awkward drafting a kid from Kiffin's program, but hey, Al won't make this pick anyway, so...)
A possibility, but what does make sense when the Raiders pick lately?

72 – Oakland – J.D. Walton (C – Baylor)
Would make sense as well

89 – Oakland (via N.E.) – Pat Angerer (ILB – Iowa)
I thought Morrison held his own this year, but was not impressed with Howard, and was thinking about an outside replacement... I like Angerer alot, why do you think he should be the pick here?

Yeah, Al may shy aaway from a LT, having faith in Henderson, he is one of Al's guys as far as I know.

Well, because although Kirk is productive I would like to see an upgrade MLB and move Kirk to SAM. It seemed like Angerer was the best available.

vikes_28
01-12-2010, 12:31 AM
A perfect Vikings mock. + rep!

Poz51
01-12-2010, 07:34 AM
Terrific Pats mock.

Help on the D and O lines, athletic pass rusher, with great change of direction skills, and a back who brings a physical style back to the run game, as a Bills fan I dont like it one bit...

Poz51
01-12-2010, 07:44 AM
Great Rams draft. However, I think if they want Clausen, they will attempt to trade down and pick up an extra second round pick, maybe Tampa's, and Griffen would be a good pick for us there.

Initially I thought some thing along the same lines, but then thought Claussen in all likelyhood will not make it past Washington at 4, I would think certainly not past Buffalo at 9, even though some people think he could fall into the middle of the first (Im not buying that). Tampa however can sit where they are and land McCoy or Berry (I doubt Suh falls past the second pick), so unless Tampa loves Suh enough to trade up I would not think that Tampa will trade as they would have to give up thier first, second and third (First pick is 3000 pts, the third is 2200, 2-3 is 550, and 3-3 is 255 which equals 3005 points, so maybe Tampa gets a 6th, more likely 7th pick back as well). Additionally Tampa is rebuilding and needs those picks, and can sit tight and still land a great talent.

Poz51
01-12-2010, 07:54 AM
LOVE the picks for the vikings. i personally think nate allen is better than chad jones, but either way you got the position right, and the rest is jsut differing opinion. not gonna lie, havent evern seen hardesty play, but if you think he is in the chester taylor mold, i wont complain. wouldnt mind seeing joe mcknight there :) good job on three rounds.

Glad to get some LOVE from the Vikings fans, usually I am not a Twin City favorite. I have seen all but one LSU game this year, and Jones was clearly the best defender on the field, and very instinctual. Your right about the differing opinion, I like Allen (havent seen all the USF games, but did manage to catch all or most of 4 or 5) too, just like Jones more, especially his size (1" taller and 25 lbs heavier) compared to Allen's, and think they are about the same in coverage with Jones being better in run support. I havent seen a ton of Hardesty either (about 3 games), but saw a ton of production and potential, and he just reminded me of Taylor, not a clone by any means, but I think he'd be a great fit in Minnesota. McKinght declared soon after I put this mock out, along with numerous others, so things will certainly change! I appreciate the reponse!!

Poz51
01-12-2010, 08:02 AM
That my friend is a beautiful Ravens mock. Graham in the third seems a bit high, but he would be able to learn under Heap for a couple years or so.

I think Benn is lacking the production that would put him closer to challenging Bryant to be the first WR picked, and will fall lower than he should, but that is just the Ravens gain, same as Oher last year. Cox is a absolute steal in the second, and very well could be gone by the time the first round is over, but every year people fall, and with the depth I think this draft has, there will be plenty of first round talent well into the second round. Graham is a bit high, but if he lights up the pre-draft festivities as I expect him to with his leaping, ball, and physical skills I expect he could fit right into the third round come draft time, and possibly go in the top half of the third round. Then again he could fall... I think Heap would be a great influence on him down the road, and he could pay off as soon as next season. Glad you liked it, I appreciate the response!

Poz51
01-12-2010, 08:12 AM
Thats alot better mocks for Oakland than Ive seen

A far better effort from my end on mocking the Raiders in the best anti-al way I could. Certainly would be a good draft for the silver and black, now lets see if they draft similarly or Davis continues to prove throwing darts at a draft board is the Raider way :( I personally really like Morgan to the Raiders in the first, but could easily see them taking a LT, or the fastest guy available...

Poz51
01-12-2010, 08:41 AM
I love the Jets draft.

This draft would certainly enhance the pass rush, and with Jenkins coming back next year would certainly give them one nasty D. I could see the Bills getting 0 net yards in a game against them... I tried to infuse some offense into this mock for the Jets, but the O-line is great, backs are good, qb and te look set, and other than my complete lack of faith in Edwards, the recieving core looks good, so defense it was! Would you draft a reciever in the top three rounds, or later if at all??

proshoota25
01-12-2010, 10:53 AM
Good Pats mock, thumb up! :)

I don't like the selection of Gerhart though, at least not considering who's available:
Javier Arenas
Brandon LaFell
Kristopher O'Dowd
Jon Asamoah

These guys would've been much better selection, but the other picks are very good.

totally agreewith razor

txparkes49x
01-12-2010, 02:51 PM
Good draft. but imo switch Marty with Thompson/DB from Cal in the 3rd and it would be ideal. splendid job.

cotts1
01-12-2010, 04:33 PM
Can't see the Lions passing on Iupati at 34 if he fell. He's a mauler and exactly what we need at LG. I think Warren is more a late 2nd-3rd round.

Menardo75
01-13-2010, 01:10 AM
Outstanding niner mock.

Poz51
01-13-2010, 08:15 AM
You say you dont like the Bradford pick and will likely change but you still went with it? Until Bradford proves otherwise (doctor reports, workouts, interviews, etc) hes not a top 5 pick right now. Add that to the factors you already mentioned about not fitting either Bruce Allen or Shanahans mold or draft history and you have a pick that makes no sense. You can't coach the intangibles or mobility or arm strength no matter how "coachable" someone is. I dont even know for sure that Okung is the right fit either. Have to wait to see more from his workouts to see if Shanny thinks he fits the zbs.

Williams Im still on the fence with as a fit for the Skins. He's more of a bull rusher but he has shown that he can be light on his feet also and finishes every play.

I didnt like the heyward bay pick to oakland last year and still went with it... Bradford maybe not a top five pick right now, but if (and yes that could be a big if) his shoulder checks out (which was the condition in which I stated) he certainly could be a top five pick. Allen and Shanahan's history is why I didnt like the pick, but if you factor in Clausen off the board already, this draft lacking a strong armed quarterback in general (Ryan Mallatt had he declared would qualify), and it looking like Campbell is out the door, it does make some sense to take the best available quarterback, is Colt Brennan, or Todd Collins gonna lead the offense? Its a real possibility that they keep Campbell and build the O-line in this draft with Okung, or an athletic guy like Campbell (Even I hope they dont reach). Shanahan is gonna want to build around a quarterback, one of the questions to me is, is he willing to sacrifice a little arm strength to start the process? I would say Bradford has excellent intangibles, and would agree that you cant coach arm strength, mobility, etc, but you can not coach leadership, and accuracy is tougher than most realize to improve upon as well. Like I said this pick is probably the toughest in respect that organizational direction is now just starting to be established, and me saying that I didnt like the pick, is nothing more than me being honest, and stating my opinion. Just like I said last year, I didnt like Bey to Oakland, or Maybin to Buffalo, but it still happened... Washington's tough to figure out right now, but the best player available scenerio would probably lead to Okung right now, which is the direction I am moving in with them...

Poz51
01-13-2010, 09:49 AM
That is one of the best Chiefs drafts I've seen on these boards yet, with one exception. I still have faith that Cottam can be productive here so instead of McCoy I'd love to see Mardy Gilyard or Matt Tennant wearing KC red.

I absolutely love the first two rounds though. McClain, Iupati and Lang would be a dream KC draft.

Everytime I look at Cottam he injured or on the bottom of the depth chart, and even though he was a guy I liked a lot coming out of Tennessee (think Kiffen will ever step foot in that state again?), I have a hard time believing he is part of the plan moving forward in K.C., and it's time to bring in a relieable recieving option at TE. Gilyard would be a good value and could replace Chambers or even Bowe depending on how things work out with him. Tennant was who I had in that spot originally then went with the higher percieved value in McCoy, personally I would go with Tennant out of the three, but thought McCoy is who they would take.... I am real high on McClain, Iupati is a good fit anywhere, and Lang seems to be slipping a bit, but a good combine/pre-draft workout will help or hurt him, or at least that is my opinion... Thanks for the feedback :)

Poz51
01-13-2010, 09:55 AM
You know you can add players besides just the draft. :)

Good point!! If Dwayne Bowe is really in the dog house and his suspension becomes an issue, I'll speak for the Bills and offer Whitner for him... We can iron out the details, but maybe that will help with the issue's at safety ;)

Poz51
01-13-2010, 10:02 AM
I havn't seen E. Griffen fall that far in any mock but he would indeed be a second round steal... Hit on the positions of greatest need for the Buc's through the first 3 rounds imo..
Nice mock for the Buc's...

No I think he is a bit overrated (my personal thought) in that I dont think he always plays up to his potential, nor have I seen him consistantly dominate like he should given his athletic abilities and size, he reminds me of a slightly more athletic version of Kenechi Udeze, maybe without the same production. I appreciate the feedback on the Buc's draft, thank you.

Poz51
01-13-2010, 10:10 AM
Not sure if the Jets go offense or defense since the offense needs a little more help at the moment, but if they do go defense I'm a huge fan of both of those picks.

The only offense I can see the Jets looking at is reciever, I dont trust Edwards at all, infact I think his problem dropping the ball is just as bad if not worse. Clowney could work out, and Jericho is a good number 2, but I still think a true number one who can hold on to the ball would do wonders. Maybe they start looking toward the future on the oline, but not this early in the draft. Really I think offensively Sanchez just needs time, so I went defense... Jones is just a really good football player, team player, leaves it all on the field, and makes plays, Norewood is a guy who's stock could sore, comparisons to James Harrison are nice and all, but Norewood maybe more intense, and is another guy who can flat out play ball! As a Bills fan, I am not a huge fan of these picks at all, but I can certainly understand your delight :)

Poz51
01-13-2010, 10:21 AM
Don't hate any individual pick, but no way Browns go defense on first 4 picks. Maybe replace first 3rd rounder with WR like Lafell or Gilyard. Love Syd'Quan though, and of course would be ecstatic with Berry.

I really wanted to work in a reciever, tight end, and at one point had Best in at running back (Lewis retiring), but with Jerome Harrison lighting it up and Jennings looking pretty solid, I thought that it would not be up too high on the priority list. Pretty much I went with value as it related to need, and just happened that I thought as I went along that defense was the best value for the Browns with those picks. Lafell or Gilyard would make sense, even in the second round, and I think they are going to give their young guys another year to see what they have got, although recent reports of Cribbs leaving have got to be devestating, and could change things. Syd'Quan I get the feeling is falling down draft boards, although he is a guy I like myself and have had as high as the first round in one of my mocks. I will certainly keep offensive and defensive balance in mind from here on out, and see if I cant work it out better. Thanks for the input!

Poz51
01-13-2010, 10:30 AM
Dez Bryant is the perfect Phins pick in the 1st, but that draft would be perfect if we took Dan Williams in the 2nd and then Jimmy Graham in the 3rd.

If the draft fell that way, we would HAVE to take Dan Williams in the 2nd, as that would be a HUGE steal and would allow us to address our two biggest needs right away in a big way.

I would agree with Bryant in the first. I know this board and most posters within are particularly high on Williams, I am not, although I could see him going as high as the Giants in round one, but he would make sense to the Fins in round two as well, especially with Phil Taylor looking like he is going to stay in school. You certainly have my attention, thanks for the feedback!!

Poz51
01-13-2010, 10:34 AM
Love that mock for the giants, only change I'd make would be having us grab Tennant in round three. He's exactly the type of lineman we love, smart, athletic, tough and went to BC.

When I overlooked it I thought to myself: "Rosebud will be happy, but want Tennant in the third over Walton." Hmm... It does make sense, I just think Walton is the better center right now. I appreciate the approval ;)

Poz51
01-15-2010, 09:27 AM
Can't see the Lions passing on Iupati at 34 if he fell. He's a mauler and exactly what we need at LG. I think Warren is more a late 2nd-3rd round.

The Lions really can not go wrong unless they draft a number one reciever or quarterback, other than that they really could use help just about every where. Iupati would be an excellent addition for them and would certainly enhance the offensive line play in general. I think the first two (maybe three) picks in this draft for the Lions have to go towards defense, unless they decide protecting Stafford is the top priority, then they take the top LT first, but word is they have faith in bacus... Personally I agree with you on warren, I think some team will see his potential and fall in love with it, in this mock it was the Lions.

Cigaro
01-15-2010, 12:23 PM
I'd take those Carolina picks. I think Hardy will be steal if he gets past his injury problems, so even if we just drafted E. Brown in the second, I'd live with him. If we did draft him though, I doubt it'd be to start opposite Peppers(it'd single Peppers on his way out). Alualu addresses a big need, although he's not necessarily the type of DT we need.

Poz51
01-20-2010, 10:18 AM
I'd take those Carolina picks. I think Hardy will be steal if he gets past his injury problems, so even if we just drafted E. Brown in the second, I'd live with him. If we did draft him though, I doubt it'd be to start opposite Peppers(it'd single Peppers on his way out). Alualu addresses a big need, although he's not necessarily the type of DT we need.

I had the value being too much to pass up, although Hardy's injury concerns keep resulting in him dropping in my mocks, his talent level is first round, the injury concern, I think has him going in the second, possibly dropping into the third. My trip up with the panthers is Peppers, I think they are going to keep him, but if they dont there draft changes, this scenerio the value was there and they took it, if Peppers is traded then this pick could be a no-brainner... Aluala I believe could put on another 20 pounds on his frame and be the guy they need to anchor the center of the defense and still be athletic enough to make plays. What would you say are the top three needs for the Panthers?

zachsaints52
01-20-2010, 10:26 AM
I would enjoy the Saints picks for sure. If we do this, release Grant, and use the cap on a backup OL I would very much love this.

Poz51
01-20-2010, 10:33 AM
I would enjoy the Saints picks for sure. If we do this, release Grant, and use the cap on a backup OL I would very much love this.

I think Grant is on his way out myself, getting injured at the end of the season did not help. The one thing I am not sure about is his contract situation, and cap ramifications. I think that would be an excellent draft for them, Wilson is a guy I love and think is really under the radar right now, the ECU games I saw he was dominate, and made plays or was a factor in almost every defensive play. One thing I keep noticing on this board is that people think the draft is the only way to improve a ball club, free agency is available too, and is just another tool used to help build a team, having said that I would agree that bringing in a back up left tackle via FA would make this a very successful off season, thanks for the intelligent feedback :)

zachsaints52
01-20-2010, 10:37 AM
I think Grant is on his way out myself, getting injured at the end of the season did not help. The one thing I am not sure about is his contract situation, and cap ramifications. I think that would be an excellent draft for them, Wilson is a guy I love and think is really under the radar right now, the ECU games I saw he was dominate, and made plays or was a factor in almost every defensive play. One thing I keep noticing on this board is that people think the draft is the only way to improve a ball club, free agency is available too, and is just another tool used to help build a team, having said that I would agree that bringing in a back up left tackle via FA would make this a very successful off season, thanks for the intelligent feedback :)

The only actual "problem" would be the no cap restriction of us not signing someone because we was one of the last teams. But if we release Grant, we get to sign someone and might as well be a Floyd Womack type of guy.

Poz51
01-20-2010, 11:01 AM
The only actual "problem" would be the no cap restriction of us not signing someone because we was one of the last teams. But if we release Grant, we get to sign someone and might as well be a Floyd Womack type of guy.

I know the uncapped year is coming, but no one seems sure how it will affect teams if a cap comes back the following year, Im really interested to see how people think the league will be affected if there is an uncapped year, followed by a capped year, or if it will just be an uncapped situation from there on out... I think there is going to be more uncertainty than people think for a while. I hear you on a Womack type of guy, Bushrod is really the only doubt I have offensively in regards to being a speed bump offensively, and hindering the Saints chances of winning the Super Bowl.

RochesterRox19
01-21-2010, 12:27 PM
There is absolutely no way that Buffalo doesn't take a QB in the first 3 Rounds. No way whatsoever.

PhysicalwithanF
01-21-2010, 03:02 PM
Not much to complain about in this scenario. Not all of my personal "favorites" but all great players at positions of need without sacrificing draft value.

Ditto. Im not a huge Campbell fan..but Spikes and Gillyard are great values and Thomas is gonna be a stud. nice work.

Poz51
01-22-2010, 07:31 AM
There is absolutely no way that Buffalo doesn't take a QB in the first 3 Rounds. No way whatsoever.

No way whatsoever?? You sure about that?? Outside of Clausen who is the only qb I would touch in the first two rounds of this draft for Buffalo, all things considered, who has the arm to play in the weather in Buffalo in this draft outside of maybe Snead? What if the value is not there like it wasnt for the Bills in this draft, do you REACH for a Snead in the third round? Do you if you are Buffalo bring in another accurate qb with questionable arm strength like Bradford who when the weather turns is questionable to even be a factor, in the first? Is there no way what so ever they dont take a qb in a weak qb class, and wait to see if Brohm pans out, or Edwards (god I hope not) can break anymore, possibly waiting till a strong armed qb (Which I believe is exactly what Gailey said he wants) is available next year (Mallatt, Locker)? What happens if they some how trade for a QB (rumors about McNabb)? Is there still no way what so ever that they dont take a qb in the first 3 rounds?? It pains me that some one with the name of the city I lived in and loved for so long would say something so moronic and stupid, do you go to the Dinosaur and order a cheeseburger?? Im sure you just might be that guy...

Poz51
01-22-2010, 07:39 AM
Ditto. Im not a huge Campbell fan..but Spikes and Gillyard are great values and Thomas is gonna be a stud. nice work.

Thanks I appreciate it! The 9ers are in a great position to really solidify their foundation in this draft, and although I am not a Campbell fan either, the 9ers could easily take him with the extra pick in the first and build him up while securing another need (I agree with you on Thomas) as well in the first. They have alot of flexibility to trade or go in any direction they would like, they are in an enviatable situation...

RochesterRox19
01-22-2010, 08:40 AM
Nah, i'm all about the Carolina Pulled Pork when I go there (which is seldom).

I agree, in the 1st Round, it's pretty much Jimmy Clausen or bust. I'm not a big Bradford fan myself. But if you think they're going into Round 2 with Tim Tebow, Colt McCoy, Tony Pike, and Jevan Snead (not to mention whomever becomes "hot" before the draft) all on the board and we pass on all of them; you must be high. You've got to be even higher if you think that when we're in need of a QB, this is the draft to pass on taking one. Locker and Mallet? Are you planning on losing more games next year and picking higher?

Gailey is a head coach known for grooming young QB's. A head coach (AND A GM) who has gone on record to say he believes in building through the draft instead of spending the big bucks.

So you tell me, what do you think is more likely? Nix pulls off some blockbuster trade taking McNabb away from Phili or we take a QB in the first few rounds?

And if you think and plan on going into next season with Fitzpatrick, Brohm, and Edwards (or replacing one of them with one of the "superstar FA QB's" with Jason Campbell the best available); you have no business calling anything moronic because that's borderline insanity.

Poz51
01-22-2010, 12:16 PM
The pulled pork is delicious...
Ill start with the quarterbacks mentioned, keep in mind this is my opinion...
Tebow, love the leadership, and intangibles, however despite being able to tear apart horrible secondary's, his abiilty to read and process defenses is suspect at best, his delivery is similar to Byron Leftwitch and slow as molases, and against top rated defenses did nothing to show that he could be successful at the NFL level, comes from a spread offense, which has not produced anything regarding consistant NFL QB's. I would reach on him in the third, if I was desprite, which you are right, we might be, but not in the second...
McCoy, Lean, with next to no muscle tone, definition or mass, fragile, again great leadership and intangibles, but does not have the physical traits, reminds me of Rob Johnson minus the arm, plus some moxy and brains. Needs to add weight to stay healthy. Accurate, but again plays out of the a shotgun/spread offense, NFL success?? I wouldnt draft him before the forth round, but again thats me...
Pike, Tall and lean, again durability at the NFL level becomes a concern. Of the prospects mentioned has the best accuracy, and at least gives his recievers a chance to catch the ball more often than not. Under rated arm. I would say he has the best chance to get "hot" before the draft because of actual ability, not hype. I could see it, and have had him as high as the first round...
Snead, should have stayed in school, this past year was horrible for him, clearly the best arm strenght, but his head is not screwed on straight, his descision making IS suspect, watch any game against a competent defense, tends to over throw the ball right to safeties, ALOT, does not handle pressure well at all, not even a little bit... Wouldnt touch him before the 4th, and that is knowing he needs time in Europe, and a couple years before even sniffing the field during an NFL game.
I do not think this is a strong class of QB's at all, nothing similar to the draft that produced, Kelly, Marino and Elway, its more like the 2005 draft, alot of hype, but the skill set is lacking.
Anyway, all things considered I would consider each of them a reach in the top three rounds, and this team can not reach and waste picks, I will tell you that in my next mock I have a 4th round and Pike is the pick...
Always been more of a drinker, not a smoker... Having said that, I could easily say that last year eveyone and there mother knew Buffalo needed a LT and passed on Oher, and we have many of the same people in place who passed on him, so maybe they are the high ones... I guess most of this is debatable, but did you see the Bills linebackers this year? Or stroud getting pushed around? Is a rookie qb gonna be the difference in stopping the run, and winning games? There are so many holes that to me this team needs players who fill needs while still being good values, not reaches at postions of need, which is what I feel those qb's are.
Realistically, do you see this team winning more than 6 games next year with McCoy, Tebow, Pike or Snead at the helm? How about Edwards, Brohm or Fitzpatrick? I dont... So yes, I actually think that this team has more holes, and question marks than answer's right now (what type of defense will be run next year? Who will be the QB? Who will play LT? Who will be the #2 reciever? Who will stop the run? Who will be the D coordinator? What is going to happen to the special teams unit? Can Chan Gailey turn around a suspect offense? etc...), and teams in this situation more often than not, especially considering that there will be little help coming our way in free agency, move up the draft board, not down... So yes, I do think we will be picking higher, and have my eyes set on guys like Mallett and Locker...
And that is just my common sense side telling me that, it breaks my heart to know that I will pay for another season of the direct ticket to watch my beloved Bills suck, but I will watch every minute again next year...

As for McNabb, its a rumor, just like I said, I did not say I thought it would actually happen, and I will go on record saying that I do not believe one bit that it will. Building through the draft is what they will have to do, what good is drafting a qb with nothing in place to help him succeed?? With out a LT, McCoy, Pike, and Snead get killed, Tebow wont survive either... With out a reciever, Evans is doubled, and set QB's have no one to throw the ball too... Without help stopping the run we would lean on a young QB to have no time to throw the ball to covered recievers when we are playing from behind... Unless Gailey and his magical bunch of un-hired assistants have a grand plan to somehow out coach three of top defensive minds in the game today... Im of the thinking that to even have a chance the pieces have to be in place for any quarterback to come into buffalo and be successful, and this draft would be the perfect oppurtunity to do just that... Gailey also stated that he wants a strong armed QB... Which one applies? Snead? Watch him play, or anyone else, look at his production, and then come tell me wether or not he is a guy you want leading your team, having spent a second round pick to do so.


So you tell me, what do you think is more likely? Nix pulls off some blockbuster trade taking McNabb away from Phili or we take a QB in the first few rounds?
Neither really, but if I had to pick it would be a draft issue, just not early in this draft. Again, I said that the McNabb thing was a rumor, not a reality... A possibility, of coarse, I would say highly unlikely though...

Going into next season with those guys at QB is a possibility, wether you, me, Chan Gailey or the fish himself likes it... Could be Campbell, I dont know, although I would agree it is insantiy, but hey we went into this season past with Edwards, Fitz and Handman, having drafted Maybin over Orakpo, Oher, Cushing, etc...

The fact that saying that something can not happen "whatsoever" is moronic...