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foozball
01-11-2010, 11:02 AM
saw it on espn just now

ThePudge
01-11-2010, 11:13 AM
Fine decision, whether it be this year or next, this guy was going to be a 1st Round pick based off of upside. Disgusted by the lack of leverage, explosiveness, and power he plays with... but perhaps a coach will come along that can unlock his potential and get his athleticism translating to the field. Average->Solid player with the physical tools and experience at a high level of competition. Hopefully not in the Top 10-15 discussion, but a fine risk after that. A 4-3 end, not buying much value in the 3-4.

BeerBaron
01-11-2010, 11:17 AM
If he falls to the 3rd round like in the forum mock, someone may be very happy. If someone burns a top 20 pick on him...well, notsomuch...

HeavyLeggedWaistBender
01-11-2010, 11:27 AM
If he falls to the 3rd round like in the forum mock, someone may be very happy. If someone burns a top 20 pick on him...well, notsomuch...

I think thats entirely possible, him slipping to the 3rd round. The questions about his desire were enough to make him a 2nd rounder and then he got the crazy DUI.

3rd round seems about right.

princefielder28
01-11-2010, 12:05 PM
If he can answer the character concerns following the DUI then he'll be looking at the bottom of round one. JPP is being touted as a potential top 10 pick and his physical skills and statistics are on par or less than Dunlap's and JPP went up against lower compeitition. I'm not a big fan of either one but coaches think they can maximize any player's potential and they'll be willing to take the risk for the reward of the player's potential.

619
01-11-2010, 12:21 PM
You can say what you want about the guy, but production has never been his biggest issue.

yourfavestoner
01-11-2010, 12:35 PM
Basically a Calais Campbell clone. Like Campbell, it will take a few years of development before he's ready to be a solid contributor in the pros, whether it's in a 4-3 or 3-4. All of it depends on how willing he is to shore up his defense against the run, because he's stupid if he thinks his value is as a pure pass rusher.

CC.SD
01-11-2010, 01:23 PM
I just want to kidnap him and stick him in a 3-4 somewhere.

RealityCheck
01-11-2010, 01:29 PM
He should have stayed.

yourfavestoner
01-11-2010, 01:35 PM
I just want to kidnap him and stick him in a 3-4 somewhere.

If you do though, it'll be a couple of years before he's ready to really contribute in the 3-4. He isn't that strong for his size yet and doesn't play with leverage against the run. Plus, he's not done filling out his frame. I assume he'll be easily over 300 lbs by the time he reaches his prime (again, this is as a 3-4 end).

Babylon
01-11-2010, 01:43 PM
Basically a Calais Campbell clone. Like Campbell, it will take a few years of development before he's ready to be a solid contributor in the pros, whether it's in a 4-3 or 3-4. All of it depends on how willing he is to shore up his defense against the run, because he's stupid if he thinks his value is as a pure pass rusher.

I think he's more explosive than Campbell who ran about a 5 flat at the comine. Dunlap should excel there.

Halsey
01-11-2010, 02:25 PM
Honestly, that's good news for the Gators. They get a headache off thier roster and will just replace him with a new 5 star DE like Ronald Powell. I hate UF.

murdamal86
01-11-2010, 02:54 PM
He should have stayed.

He couldn't have done anything to really improve his stock. What goes up, must come down....

Mr.Regular
01-11-2010, 02:56 PM
I see a spot for him in the end of round one. Passrushers are always in high demand, and the guy has semi good production and great measurables.

Nalej
01-11-2010, 04:04 PM
his stock'll rise again once the combine comes. dude's a specimen.

FUNBUNCHER
01-11-2010, 04:18 PM
Basically a Calais Campbell clone. Like Campbell, it will take a few years of development before he's ready to be a solid contributor in the pros, whether it's in a 4-3 or 3-4. All of it depends on how willing he is to shore up his defense against the run, because he's stupid if he thinks his value is as a pure pass rusher.

Ding-ding!!!

Like Campbell, I think Dunlap will be a better pro than a collegian. but again I have no idea why Calais Campbell and Carlos Dunlap are/were more highly regarded prospects than Michael Johnson was coming out of Ga Tech.

I can't see Dunlap falling past the first round, especially if he's really 290# and can run a sub 4.7 40.

descendency
01-11-2010, 07:00 PM
He couldn't have done anything to really improve his stock. What goes up, must come down....

His stock could be a top 10. He's a late first rounder right now.

Nard_Dog
01-11-2010, 07:44 PM
If Michael Johnson couldn't fix his stock after a good combine than I doubt Dunlap can.

superman8456
01-11-2010, 07:50 PM
If Michael Johnson couldn't fix his stock after a good combine than I doubt Dunlap can.

Michael Johnson was also living in the shadow of the Connor Barwin hype. He was by far the most athletic dlineman at the combine.

cajuncorey
01-11-2010, 09:12 PM
Basically a Calais Campbell clone. Like Campbell, it will take a few years of development before he's ready to be a solid contributor in the pros, whether it's in a 4-3 or 3-4. All of it depends on how willing he is to shore up his defense against the run, because he's stupid if he thinks his value is as a pure pass rusher.

when he runs a 4.6 at the combine youll never make that comparision again... EVER

TACKLE
01-11-2010, 09:24 PM
Can someone tell me what Carlos Dunlap does well on the field. I've seen him play many times and I still can't figure it out.

Calvin & Kevin
01-11-2010, 09:53 PM
Can someone tell me what Carlos Dunlap does well on the field. I've seen him play many times and I still can't figure it out.

I agree. I've only watched him a handful of times but I have never seen him do anything that made me go "oh OK so that's what he's so hyped about." He looks like a skinny linebacker too. I thought the same thing about Chris Long, he just never looked like a full-size DE to me and neither does Dunlap.

TACKLE
01-12-2010, 01:09 AM
I agree. I've only watched him a handful of times but I have never seen him do anything that made me go "oh OK so that's what he's so hyped about." He looks like a skinny linebacker too. I thought the same thing about Chris Long, he just never looked like a full-size DE to me and neither does Dunlap.

You do realize he is 6'6 290.

RaiderNation
01-12-2010, 01:17 AM
You do realize he is 6'6 290.

Plays like hes 6'3 255lbs. He should be good against the run with that size, but he is more of a pass rusher

DaBrowns41
01-12-2010, 09:19 AM
If you do though, it'll be a couple of years before he's ready to really contribute in the 3-4. He isn't that strong for his size yet and doesn't play with leverage against the run. Plus, he's not done filling out his frame. I assume he'll be easily over 300 lbs by the time he reaches his prime (again, this is as a 3-4 end).

Campbell contributed quite a bit in his rookie year, and in his 2nd year, he started 15 games and posted 7 sacks (which is unheard of for a 34 DE).

I don't know where you're getting this "couple years" thing.

brat316
01-12-2010, 11:32 AM
You do realize he is 6'6 290.

chris long is not 6-6 290


Dunlap is suppose to be that, but who knows. Also he was referring to chris long looking like a lb.

yourfavestoner
01-12-2010, 11:40 AM
when he runs a 4.6 at the combine youll never make that comparision again... EVER

Meh...I just don't see that kind of speed in him. Call him a very poor man's Peppers or Mario Williams if you'd like.

Saints-Tigers
01-12-2010, 11:42 AM
Apparently Dunlap just slips and falls onto his sacks. He tends to really trip over himself in big games.

Addict
01-12-2010, 11:48 AM
wasn't Dunlap supposed to be some kind of monster? I seem to remember WMD driving his bandwagon.

Addict
01-12-2010, 11:50 AM
You do realize he is 6'6 290.

make that 6'3", 275 and you've got yourself a deal. 6'6" 290 is closer to Jake Long than it is to Chris.

Besides, everyone knew long wasn't a physical specimen, he was a motor and drive guy. He'll get there eventually. He just isn't able to brute-force his way in.

yourfavestoner
01-12-2010, 01:28 PM
make that 6'3", 275 and you've got yourself a deal. 6'6" 290 is closer to Jake Long than it is to Chris.

Besides, everyone knew long wasn't a physical specimen, he was a motor and drive guy. He'll get there eventually. He just isn't able to brute-force his way in.

6'6 290 refers to Dunlap's height and weight, not Long's.

FUNBUNCHER
01-12-2010, 01:43 PM
make that 6'3", 275 and you've got yourself a deal. 6'6" 290 is closer to Jake Long than it is to Chris.

Besides, everyone knew long wasn't a physical specimen, he was a motor and drive guy. He'll get there eventually. He just isn't able to brute-force his way in.
Chris Long won a slam dunk contest in HS as a senior. He's a pretty good athlete, but I don't think he has the pure athleticism to dominate OL on physical tools alone.
But you're right, his calling card is his motor. He's a total high effort football player. I hope the Rams take Suh so he has more opportunity to develop as a pass rusher.