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SanFran
03-12-2007, 11:18 PM
Can the Guy break that all-Time rushing Record Held by MR.Eric Dickerson..thats his goal his mindset..best of luck to Gore ...this is ur goal break it/smash it 2,105(E.Dickerson)

BUSTKUNTLAWL
03-12-2007, 11:19 PM
no chance..

etk
03-12-2007, 11:20 PM
If they play the Cards & Rams twice a year, then yes.

Edit: And Seahawks, but to a lesser extent

SanFran
03-12-2007, 11:22 PM
If they play the Cards & Rams twice a year, then yes.

You can also add the Seahawks to that list...if u all saw what he did against them last season

bigmac076
03-12-2007, 11:22 PM
not gonna happen.

KWill93
03-12-2007, 11:22 PM
Ummmmmmmm no....

Caddy
03-12-2007, 11:28 PM
He is good, but nowhere near that good

Frisco-9ers
03-12-2007, 11:28 PM
I don't want him to break it. To many carries, will hurt his career in my opinion.

bored of education
03-12-2007, 11:29 PM
Most likely not.

PalmerToCJ
03-12-2007, 11:29 PM
Lets not get ahead of ourselves here...

Damix
03-12-2007, 11:33 PM
Stop making threads

ninerfan
03-12-2007, 11:35 PM
I wish but no

Frisco-9ers
03-12-2007, 11:39 PM
He is good, but nowhere near that good

Well.. if you get his avg from last year (5.4) and multiply it by the # of carries Larry Johnson got last year (416) you get 5.4x416=2246.4

So idk if i would say that he is nowhere near that good.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/411568 (Frank)
http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/396164 (Larry)

bored of education
03-12-2007, 11:44 PM
Well maurice Jones Drew Averaged 5.7 yards Per Carry, so if you multiply that by the # of carries Larry Johnson had last year (416) you get 2371.2 YARDS HOLY SHITTTTT

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/409879 (****)

PalmerToCJ
03-12-2007, 11:45 PM
Well maurice Jones Drew Averaged 5.7 yards Per Carry, so if you multiply that by the # of carries Larry Johnson had last year (416) you get 2371.2 YARDS HOLY SHITTTTT

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/409879 (****)

Pfft. That's nothing, Michael Turner would've hit 2620...

bored of education
03-12-2007, 11:47 PM
TRUEEEEEEEEE S.D fans would be like "Ladanian WHOOOO"

Komp
03-12-2007, 11:49 PM
No...I think you'll see defenses prepping for him a lot more this year.

P-L
03-12-2007, 11:53 PM
Pfft. That's nothing, Michael Turner would've hit 2620...
If Mike Vick carried the ball 416 times he would've hit 3494. No wonder people think he's a running back. http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif

ninerfan
03-12-2007, 11:54 PM
If Mike Vick carried the ball 416 times he would've hit 3494. No wonder people think he's a running back. http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif

yes the worlds most expensive running back

d34ng3l021
03-13-2007, 12:07 AM
yes the worlds most expensive running back

Hell, I'd pay 130 million for a RB who could hit 3500 yards rushing...wouldnt you?

Crazy_Chris
03-13-2007, 12:15 AM
yea lets not get too ahead of ourselves he had a good year but lets see if he can repeat the performance next year before we even start thinking about the record.... if theres gonna be a thread about a current RB breaking the season record it should be about LT he is the only one that i even think has a chance at it

doingthisinsteadofwork
03-13-2007, 12:48 AM
no the niners should pass more.

RaiderNation
03-13-2007, 01:05 AM
99.9% he doesnt

niel89
03-13-2007, 01:06 AM
no chance. he is really good but not that good

Moses
03-13-2007, 01:41 AM
Well.. if you get his avg from last year (5.4) and multiply it by the # of carries Larry Johnson got last year (416) you get 5.4x416=2246.4

So idk if i would say that he is nowhere near that good.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/411568 (Frank)
http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/396164 (Larry)

Not this train of thought again...

We see this every year. Extrapolating statistics does not work.

mikehop05
03-13-2007, 01:50 AM
i think he will have agreat year, but i dont think he'll break the record...

but every running back should have that mentality though, to be the best

TheChampIsHere
03-13-2007, 02:11 AM
probably not, you really have to have a special season to come close to the 2000 yard mark and Frank Gore is coming off a special season last year and he'll be hard-pressed to do what he did last year again. Im not saying he cant rush for 1500 or even 2000 yards but things would really have to go perfectly. But that certainly is the mentality you want any workhorse back to have...that defenses will not be able to stop him and that he will rack up yards and carry the load offensively game in game out all year. Confidence and high expectations are important.

Borat
03-13-2007, 02:39 AM
I love Frank, but when he said this a couple of months ago, I thought he was crazy. I still do. It's interesting what players will say when their discussing a possible contract extension.

I'mAHustler
03-13-2007, 06:36 AM
Won't happen.

jetsfan3
03-13-2007, 06:53 AM
I hope he breaks it so I can laugh at the 30 people in this thread who said no chance.

Jughead10
03-13-2007, 07:35 AM
Frank Gore should worry about staying healthy more than breaking rushing records. With the way he runs, it is only a matter of time before he gets hurt again.

eaglesalltheway
03-13-2007, 08:04 AM
No...I think you'll see defenses prepping for him a lot more this year.

That's it right there, he will still have a good year if he can stay healthy, but I don't see him breaking the record.

my future me
03-13-2007, 08:05 AM
. . . he will then hang up his cleats and retire as the greatest of all time





If Nolan allows him anywhere near 2,000 yards, Gore may as well retire cause his legs won't work no more. You have to protect you RB.

frogstomp
03-13-2007, 08:34 AM
Last year it was Larry. The year before it was Tomlinson. Every single year people come up with the most idiotic arguments about how one RB that did good last year will magically go over 2000.

Well, it won't happen. Even if Gore got more carries, his YPC would most likely head south. Why does no one see how special 2000 yards is?

Craigo
03-13-2007, 08:52 AM
I remember posting on this website at this time last year that Gore would break 1200 in 06/07. I got laughed at. He got way past that. I'd love to find that thread, but I haven't been able to.

I guess thats a little off topic. I'll have to agree with some of the other niner fans saying that I dont want him to rush for that much. Too much wear, especially for a guy whos got two knees that hes already ruined before. I think the Niners draft a change of pace back in the middle rounds to take the load off. Michael Robinson isn't ready yet.

Splat
03-13-2007, 09:21 AM
Slow down young buck.

goonie61
03-13-2007, 09:26 AM
Read my signiture, if he doesnt break the record next year he will do it eventually, he is that good!

YAYareaRB
03-13-2007, 09:32 AM
Frank Gore should worry about staying healthy more than breaking rushing records. With the way he runs, it is only a matter of time before he gets hurt again.

Explain your reasoning.. He has a very natural running style, it's not like he runs up high or he leaves his knees out in front of him to get hit first. He's a very smart running and uses his quickness and low center of gravity while running.

bigbluedefense
03-13-2007, 09:35 AM
Won't happen. He lacks the breakaway top speed to really break alot of long ones. He's a great RB who runs for average, but unless the hole is really big, I don't see him breaking long runs consistently. Too slow (top end speed at least).

And anyway, he should be more worried about staying healthy.

portermvp84
03-13-2007, 09:41 AM
Steven Jackson said he was going to snap it and look what he did, IMo he'll get closer than Jackson did.

Jughead10
03-13-2007, 09:42 AM
Explain your reasoning.. He has a very natural running style, it's not like he runs up high or he leaves his knees out in front of him to get hit first. He's a very smart running and uses his quickness and low center of gravity while running.

He never looks to avoid contact and takes a lot of big hits. All the great RBs have had the knack for never taking a really hard direct hit. At least very rarely. He runs hard but often right into or through defenders. For a smaller guy (although he is not terribly small) with a serious history of injuries, to me its just a matter of time.

d34ng3l021
03-13-2007, 11:06 AM
Won't happen. He lacks the breakaway top speed to really break alot of long ones. He's a great RB who runs for average, but unless the hole is really big, I don't see him breaking long runs consistently. Too slow (top end speed at least).

And anyway, he should be more worried about staying healthy.


Yeah. His top end speed stopped him from getting another 100 yards at least during the season. He always broke out into the secondary for a long gain, but was caught from behind many times. If only he had the top end speed to outrun them at the end...that would be many more yards and TDs.

etk
03-13-2007, 11:08 AM
Last year it was Larry. The year before it was Tomlinson. Every single year people come up with the most idiotic arguments about how one RB that did good last year will magically go over 2000.

Well, it won't happen. Even if Gore got more carries, his YPC would most likely head south. Why does no one see how special 2000 yards is?

Last year it was Steven Jackson too.

Craigo
03-13-2007, 12:20 PM
Won't happen. He lacks the breakaway top speed to really break alot of long ones. He's a great RB who runs for average, but unless the hole is really big, I don't see him breaking long runs consistently. Too slow (top end speed at least).

And anyway, he should be more worried about staying healthy.

Um... thats actually ridiculous.

He had the most long runs in the league last year by a pretty good margin. I'll look up the exact stat, but he definately had the most in the league.

Space Ghost
03-13-2007, 12:21 PM
Didn't he say this last year? Doesn't every running back say this every year?

Jughead10
03-13-2007, 12:27 PM
Didn't he say this last year? Doesn't every running back say this every year?

No. Some RBs actually state goals that might actually be reached. Although I doubt he even does this, Brandon Jacobs said he is going to break 1600 rushing yards.

DeathbyStat
03-13-2007, 12:29 PM
i think he will have a down year as more teams will game plan for him even more than last year

Splat
03-13-2007, 12:29 PM
Frank Gore is the best running back in the NFL.

I didn't know LT changed his name to Frank Gore?

Craigo
03-13-2007, 12:30 PM
Um... thats actually ridiculous.

He had the most long runs in the league last year by a pretty good margin. I'll look up the exact stat, but he definately had the most in the league.

Yeah, 15 runs of 20+

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/411568

Just for a reference on whats a good number, Tomlinson has never done more than 12 a season, and hes considered the best breakaway runner in the game.

fenikz
03-13-2007, 12:32 PM
doesnt matter if they do, you will still never beat the cardinals

Jughead10
03-13-2007, 12:34 PM
Yeah, 15 runs of 20+

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/411568

Just for a reference on whats a good number, Tomlinson has never done more than 12 a season, and hes considered the best breakaway runner in the game.

I think he is saying that some of those 25, 30, 35, yard runs could have been taken to the house if he had more elite speed. Just because you have the most 20+ yard runs doesn't mean you have elite speed.

Craigo
03-13-2007, 12:40 PM
But to say his weakness is an inability to make long runs is a little far fetched when he leads the league in 20+ runs. Sure hes not as fast as Tomlinson, but I wouldnt call his speed a weakness by any stretch of the imagination.

Hes got a fast burst and great football speed. 90% of running backs are occasionally gonna get caught by the really fast DB's.

Jughead10
03-13-2007, 12:42 PM
A better stat would be 40 yards runs. How many 40+ did he have. Because you can get 20 yards without breaking away from anyone.

Larry
03-13-2007, 12:43 PM
Frank Gore should worry about staying healthy more than breaking rushing records. With the way he runs, it is only a matter of time before he gets hurt again.

lol if you worry about getting hurt while your playing it's only a matter of time until you do.

Larry
03-13-2007, 12:45 PM
doesnt matter if they do, you will still never beat the cardinals

So how was last place this year?

Jughead10
03-13-2007, 12:45 PM
lol if you worry about getting hurt while your playing it's only a matter of time until you do.

He doesn't have to worry. But he could try to avoid defenders and not take a direct hit from time to time. As a starting RB that will catch up to him.

Larry
03-13-2007, 12:48 PM
It may, but he's only 24. He doesn't have to change his running style exactly right now.

fenikz
03-13-2007, 01:30 PM
So how was last place this year?

when was the last time you beat the cardinals 2-3 years ago?

im just playing 49ers are my least hated rival

lod01
03-13-2007, 01:44 PM
No...I think you'll see defenses prepping for him a lot more this year.


Last year, they didn't want any part of him when he was coming right at them. This year willb e no different. He hurst people, but I doubt he get 2000 yards. On the other hand, if the whole O click, he may do that. They needs serious WR help though to keep the D from stacking the line. It takes multiple defenders to bring him down.

Splat
03-13-2007, 01:48 PM
They will do the same thing people do to LJ put 8 and 9 in the box on every down no way either break 2000.

The Legend
03-13-2007, 02:03 PM
no he cant but im glad to see that the kid has high goals

and wish him the best luck

Borat
03-13-2007, 02:09 PM
So how was last place this year?

when was the last time you beat the cardinals 2-3 years ago?

im just playing 49ers are my least hated rival

Ha. I remember when the 9ers were 2-14 and the only team we beat was the Cardinals (twice) and the whole offseason the only time I could smack anyone was when I ran into a Cardinals fan.

princefielder28
03-13-2007, 02:12 PM
If they don't get themselves some wideouts he'll get the carries

Craigo
03-13-2007, 02:26 PM
They will do the same thing people do to LJ put 8 and 9 in the box on every down no way either break 2000.
Other teams actually already do that to Gore.

Im not saying he will break 2000, but the second half of the season, defences consistently put 8 in the box.

bored of education
03-13-2007, 02:27 PM
Other teams actually already do that to Gore.

Im not saying he will break 2000, but the second half of the season, defences consistently put 8 in the box.

NOT NEARLY AS MUCH AS THEY DO IT TO LARRY JOHNSON!

Craigo
03-13-2007, 02:28 PM
Ha. I remember when the 9ers were 2-14 and the only team we beat was the Cardinals (twice) and the whole offseason the only time I could smack anyone was when I ran into a Cardinals fan.

Haha.. exactly. The year after we swept the Rams and it was the same thing. This year we sweep the Seahawks.

I dont even hate the Cardinals like I hate the Rams and Seahawks. Arizona is like that little annoying cousin that you just laugh at. At least the Seahawks and Rams were good at one time.

fenikz
03-13-2007, 02:40 PM
frank gore averages 178 ypg against the seahawks, 130 ypg against the rams, but only 69 ypg against the cards

kinda wierd

d34ng3l021
03-13-2007, 07:21 PM
frank gore averages 178 ypg against the seahawks, 130 ypg against the rams, but only 69 ypg against the cards

kinda wierd

Cards defense super ownage. Duh.

The Unseen
03-13-2007, 07:25 PM
Cards defense super ownage. Duh.

fo' shizzle

remix 6
03-13-2007, 07:27 PM
Portis could :)

hes gonna be 26 at start of season..has 6453 yards already even after missing most of season and recovering from injuries when he actually played

art vandelay
03-13-2007, 09:11 PM
Well he certainly is in the right division to do it. He's running behind a very good, if not great OL (excluding Kwame Harris) and is starting to reach his prime. However, I am not saying that he will do it. People really don't realize how special that record is. Also, San Fran's WR's are still very unproven and if the Niners prove they can't pass effectively, look for teams to stack eight in the box.

Larry
03-14-2007, 05:50 PM
frank gore averages 178 ypg against the seahawks, 130 ypg against the rams, but only 69 ypg against the cards

kinda wierd

Don't forget his 4 TD's.

fondoffilm
03-14-2007, 06:05 PM
I'm rooting for Gore, but I don't see him doing that well next season without Norv.

MasterShake
03-14-2007, 06:13 PM
They will do the same thing people do to LJ put 8 and 9 in the box on every down no way either break 2000.

Teams stacked the box against Gore a TON last year due to Alex Smiths inexperience. Was it as much as LJ? I don't know, but it couldnt have been much easier. The box was constantly stacked against Gore.

He ran for 5.4 YPC while handling the full load against a stacked box all season....very impressive.

Also, for those who think he has a punishing run-style that will get him injured....there was a quote from Grant Winstrom after one of the games Gore ran all over them...He stated he felt like they were in position to make plays, but could never land a direct hit on Gore...

So while doesn't shy away from contact....he doesn't take full hits all the time..


I love Gore, but I don't think he'll break the record this year.

neko4
03-14-2007, 06:27 PM
Not this train of thought again...

We see this every year. Extrapolating statistics does not work.

Yeah, he would get tired and worn out

skinzzfan25
03-14-2007, 08:41 PM
Portis could :)

hes gonna be 26 at start of season..has 6453 yards already even after missing most of season and recovering from injuries when he actually played


Depends on who is really calling the shots on offense. If Gibbs has a say, we are running the ball 30+ times a game. With Saunders and whether Campbell clicks with the offense, we could be doing more passing. But I do expect CP to get back to his dominance :)

TCU
03-14-2007, 11:42 PM
Somewhat unrelated but in Madden i like the fact that you can go to coaching options and make the pass-run bar all the way to run and put split carries at 1 % and if you simulate for an entire season your RB hits well over 3000 yards.

Addict
03-15-2007, 03:03 AM
Somewhat unrelated but in Madden i like the fact that you can go to coaching options and make the pass-run bar all the way to run and put split carries at 1 % and if you simulate for an entire season your RB hits well over 3000 yards.

The real funny thing is that if you put the run/pass bar at 20/80, your running back still easily gets to 1500+ yards and 15 td's and your QB keeps struggling to break 4000. Running game is WAY easier to simulate in madden than passing game.

Crabjuice
03-15-2007, 02:33 PM
I don't know if Gore will break 2,000 yards next season, but there is potential for him to get better.

Last offseason he has surgery on both of his shoulders. He was limited in workouts all offseason, especially his upper body. With a full offseason of weight training and hill running, he could improve his stamina and strength. He knows that his problem area was in finishing his runs. Personally, I don't think the reason he gets caught from behind is lack of speed. I think it is lack of stamina. He has the speed to break out, he just slows down after 20 or 30 yards.

Also, it is true that he played with a stacked box all season. Teams don't respect Smith in the passing game and focus on Gore. The 49ers offensive line and fullback did a great job blocking for him last season, but he still had to beat two or three guys on every long run to even get to the second level.

The best thing for Gore next season will be increased effectiveness in the passing game. While the 49ers do need to add another WR, they did add an important piece in Ashley Lelie. While he is one dimensional and not elite, he has shown that he has the potential to be one of the best deep threats in the league. If he can duplicate his success from '04, he will help to eliminate the stacked boxes that Gore has been running through from day one. Also, a healthy Vernon Davis can stretch the field and his run blocking has proven to be one of his strengths and is certainly an upgrade over Eric Johnson.

His running style is determined and physical, but he does make as many people miss as he does run them over. He doesn't take as many big hits as people seem to think, either. Defenders slide off of him instead of bouncing off. That's not to say that he doesn't hit people, it's just not as bad as people are making it out to be.

Personally, I would prefer if he didn't have a lot more rushes than he did last season. If he goes over 2,000 I hope it's because he's averaging 7 yards a carry.

Thrawn
03-15-2007, 07:59 PM
I think the over/under for Gore next season will be 1200 yards.

1) No more Norv turner. Everywhere he goes, he seems to make runningbacks. I don't think the running game will be as good without him.

2) Seahawks will have a DT. Last year their DT was injured. This year he will be back on the field. I'd expect the Seahawks to build up more against the run as well by the season. 4 games vs Gore/Jackson makes it vital.

3) Rams will hopefully have done something to move from the #31 D. Just like the Seahawks face Gore/Jackson, the Rams face Gore/Alexander so building some run D would make sense. So far I'm just not certain where that improvement is coming from.

4) I'm not confident in the 49er's offensive line. Tony Wragge? I don't see them keeping up a high level.

5) I don't think Gore will hold up for over 350 touches a year. His injury history in college wasn't pretty.

6) Ashlie Lelie. I believe the drops this season will not only kill drives (taking carries from Gore) but also cause more passing situations after dropped potential first downs (taking even more carries from Gore)

7) Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and Carolina on the schedule. That usually doesn't help the running stats. Minnesota was also good against the run last season.

Larry
03-15-2007, 09:11 PM
I think the over/under for Gore next season will be 1200 yards.

1) No more Norv turner. Everywhere he goes, he seems to make runningbacks. I don't think the running game will be as good without him.

2) Seahawks will have a DT. Last year their DT was injured. This year he will be back on the field. I'd expect the Seahawks to build up more against the run as well by the season. 4 games vs Gore/Jackson makes it vital.

3) Rams will hopefully have done something to move from the #31 D. Just like the Seahawks face Gore/Jackson, the Rams face Gore/Alexander so building some run D would make sense. So far I'm just not certain where that improvement is coming from.

4) I'm not confident in the 49er's offensive line. Tony Wragge? I don't see them keeping up a high level.

5) I don't think Gore will hold up for over 350 touches a year. His injury history in college wasn't pretty.

6) Ashlie Lelie. I believe the drops this season will not only kill drives (taking carries from Gore) but also cause more passing situations after dropped potential first downs (taking even more carries from Gore)

7) Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and Carolina on the schedule. That usually doesn't help the running stats. Minnesota was also good against the run last season.


Norv Turner made Emmit Smith and Frank Gore lol.

Crabjuice
03-15-2007, 10:03 PM
6) Ashlie Lelie. I believe the drops this season will not only kill drives (taking carries from Gore) but also cause more passing situations after dropped potential first downs (taking even more carries from Gore)


You mean all three of the drops he had this year?

MasterShake
03-16-2007, 11:07 AM
4) I'm not confident in the 49er's offensive line. Tony Wragge? I don't see them keeping up a high level.



Tony Wragge is a back-up C/G who had to start 3-4 games for us last year and played very well when he did, but he is just a back-up.

Our Starting O-line is...

Jennings - Allen - Heitmann - Smiley - Snyder


No real probowlers, but each guy is more than just solid and some of them play near probowl levels. We also have some nice experienced depth with David Baas, Tony Wragge, and Kwame Harris.

Our o-line wasn't elite, but it was a strength and will continue to be for the forseeable future.

JK17
03-16-2007, 11:12 AM
I love Frank Gore but he should be more concerned about just getting the rushing title. A couple years ago, a superior running back in LT set his goal to break the rushing record, and came up well short of that goal. If anyone will breka the rushing record it will be LT, but like I said, I like Frank Gore, and see him hitting 1450-1550 yards and 11 TD.