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DaBrowns41
01-19-2010, 02:49 PM
Made plenty of changes, after re-evaluating some of the recorded games I had, and bowl games as well.

If there are any errors, please let me know.


1. Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska- 6’4 300
2. Gerald McCoy*, DT, Oklahoma- 6’4 297
3. Eric Berry*, S, Tennessee- 5’11 203
4. Jimmy Clausen*, QB, Notre Dame- 6’3 224
5. Rolando McClain*, LB, Alabama- 6’4 260
6. Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State- 6’5 305
7. Joe Haden*, CB, Florida- 5’11 190
8. Derrick Morgan*, DE, Georgia Tech- 6’4 270
9. Anthony Davis*, OT, Rutgers- 6’6 325
10. Dez Bryant*, WR, Oklahoma State- 6’2 220
11. Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma- 6’5 315
12. Brian Price*, DT, UCLA- 6’2 300
13. C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson- 5’11 195
14. Sam Bradford*, QB, Oklahoma- 6’4 225
15. Bryan Baluga, OT, Iowa- 6’6 312
16. Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida- 6’6 290
17. Earl Thomas*, S, Texas- 5’10 195
18. Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee- 6’3 325
19. Jerry Hughes, DE, TCU- 6’3 257
20. Jason Pierre-Paul*, DE, South Florida- 6’5 262
21. Aaron Hernandez, TE, Florida- 6’2 250
22. Everson Griffen*, DE, USC- 6’4 280
23. Johnathan Dwyer*, RB, Georgia Tech- 6’0 230
24. Arrelious Benn*, WR, Illinois- 6’2 220
25. Mike Iupati, OG, Idaho- 6’6 330
26. Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma- 6’6 258
27. Sean Weatherspoon, LB, Missouri- 6’2 246
28. Taylor Mays, S, USC- 6’4 225
29. Brandon Graham, DE, Michigan- 6’2 260
30. Terrence Cody, DT, Alabama- 6’5 360
31. Mardy Gilyard, WR, Cincinnati- 6’1 189
32. Jared Odrick, DT, Penn State- 6’5 295
33. Brandon Spikes, LB, Florida- 6’3 251
34. Golden Tate*, WR, Notre Dame- 5’11 195
35. Patrick Robinson, CB, Florida State- 5’11 193
36. Sergio Kindle, LB, Texas- 6’4 255
37. Bruce Campbell*, OT, Maryland- 6’7 310
38. Brandon LaFell, WR, LSU- 6’3 210
39. Navorro Bowman*, LB, Penn State- 6’1 230
40. Nate Allen, S, South Florida- 6’2 205
41. Vladimir Ducasse, OG/OT, Massachusetts- 6’5 330
42. Daryl Washington, ILB, TCU- 6’3 235
43. Rob Gronkowski, TE, Arizona- 6’6 265
44. Ricky Sapp, DE, Clemson- 6’6 240
45. Ryan Mathews, RB, Fresno State- 5’11 220
46. Perrish Cox, CB, Oklahoma State- 6’0 197
47. Eric Norwood, LB, South Carolina- 6’1 253
48. Javhid Best*, RB, California- 5’9 200
49. Darrell Stuckey, S, Kansas- 6’1 205
50. Damian Williams*, WR, USC- 6’1 210
51. Tim Tebow, QB, Florida- 6’3 245
52. Arthur Jones, DT, Syracuse- 6’4 293
53. Charles Brown, OT, USC- 6’6 290
54. Brandon Ghee, CB, Wake Forest- 6’0 190
55. Jon Asomoah, OG, Illinois- 6’6 315
56. Dexter McCluster, RB, Ole Miss- 5’8 170
57. Maurkice Pouncey, OG, Florida- 6’5 318
58. Chad Jones, S, LSU- 6’3 218
59. Anthony Dixon, RB, Miss St.- 6’1 235
60. Greg Hardy, DE, Ole Miss- 6’5 240
61. Colt McCoy, QB, Texas- 6’2 215
62. Kareem Jackson, CB, Alabama- 5’11 195
63. Jermaine Cunningham, DE, Florida- 6’3 251
64. Demaryius Thomas, WR, Georgia Tech- 6’3 229
65. Amari Spievey, CB, Iowa- 6’0 190
66. George Selvie, DE, South Florida- 6’4 250
67. Joe McKnight, RB, USC- 6’0 192
68. Dominique Franks, CB, Oklahoma- 6’0 192
69. Jordan Shipley, WR, Texas- 6’0 190
70. Syd’Quan Thompson, CB, California- 5’9 190
71. Reshad Jones, S, Georgia- 6’2 212
72. Tyson Alualu, DT, California- 6’3 290
73. Sean Canfield, QB, Oregon State- 6’4 214
74. Devin McCourty, CB, Rutgers- 5’11 190
75. Danario Alexander, WR, Missouri- 6’5 215
76. Toby Gerhart, RB, Stanford- 6’1 235
77. Donovan Warren, CB, Michigan- 6’0 190
78. Sean Lee, LB, Penn State- 6’2 236
79. O’Brien Schofield, OLB, Wisconsin- 6’3 243
80. Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise State- 5’10 190
81. Tony Washington, OT, Abilene Christian- 6’7 205
82. Corey Wootton, DE, Northwestern- 6’6 281
83. Kyle Calloway, OT, Iowa- 6’7 315
84. Morgan Burnett, S, Georgia Tech- 6’1 210
85. Lamarr Houston, DT, Texas- 6’2 300
86. Mike Johnson, OG, Alabama- 6’3 305
87. Jason Worilds, DE, Virginia Tech- 6’2 262
88. Eric Decker, WR, Minnesota- 6’2 215
89. Darryl Sharpton, ILB, Miami (Fl.)- 6’1 235
90. Anthony McCoy, TE, USC- 6’5 245
91. Tony Pike, QB, Cincinnati- 6’6 225
92. Lindsey Witten, DE, UConn- 6’5 260
93. Dekoda Watson, LB, Florida State- 6’2 228
94. Dezmon Briscoe, WR, Kansas- 6’3 200
95. Selvish Capers, OT, West Virginia- 6’5 298
96. Myron Lewis, CB, Vanderbilt- 6’2 205
97. Jeremy Williams, WR, Tulane- 6’1 205
98. Jerome Murphy, CB, USF- 6’1 190
99. Jacoby Ford, WR, Clemson- 5’10 185
100. Riley Cooper, WR, Florida- 6’3 215
101. Dennis Pitta, TE, BYU- 6’5 248
102. Alterraun Verner, CB, UCLA- 5’11 180
103. Vince Oghobaase, DT, Duke- 6’5 305
104. Javier Arenas, CB, Alabama- 5’9 195
105. Ed Dickson, TE, Oregon- 6’5 243
106. Trevard Lindley, CB, Kentucky- 6’1 185
107. Larry Asante, S, Nebraska- 6’1 215
108. Thaddeus Gibson, DE, Ohio State- 6’2 245
109. Charles Scott, RB, LSU- 6’0 232
110. Colin Peek, TE, Alabama- 6’6 255
111. Harry Coleman, S, LSU- 6’2 205
112. J.D. Walton, C, Baylor- 6’3 304
113. Austen Lane, DE, Murray State- 6’7 270
114. James Starks, RB, Buffalo- 6’2 210
115. Ciron Black, OT, LSU- 6’5 322
116. Montario Hardesty, RB, Tennessee- 6’0 215
117. Roddrick Muckelroy, LB, Texas- 6’2 235
118. Rashawn Jackson, FB, Virginia- 6’1 245
119. Micah Johnson, ILB, Kentucky- 6’2 258
120. Major Wright, S, Florida- 6’0 204
121. John Skelton, QB, Fordham- 6’5 255
122. Antonio Brown, WR, Central Michigan- 5’10 181
123. Garrett Graham, TE, Wisconsin- 6’3 250
124. Jason Fox, OT, Miami (Fl.)- 6’7 314
125. Rodger Saffold, OG, Indiana- 6’5 305
126. Brandon Lang, DE, Troy- 6’4 255
127. Geno Atkins, DT, Georgia- 6’1 290
128. AJ Edds, LB, Iowa- 6’4 245
129. Ben Tate, RB, Auburn- 5’11 218
130. Zane Beadles, OG, Utah- 6’4 305
131. Kam Chancellor, S, Virginia Tech- 6’4 230
132. Rennie Curran, S, Georgia- 5’11 225
133. D’Anthony Smith, DT, Louisiana Tech- 6’2 298
134. Sergio Render, OG, Virginia Tech- 6’3 313
135. Jevan Snead, QB, Ole Miss- 6’3 220
136. LeGarrette Blount, RB, Oregon- 6’2 240
137. Pat Angerer, LB, Iowa- 6’1 235
138. T.J. Ward, S, Oregon- 5’11 200
139. Koa Misi, DE, Utah- 6’3 263
140. Justin Cole, LB, San Jose State- 6’3 240
141. Tony Moeaki, TE, Iowa- 6’4 250
142. Boo Robinson, DT, Wake Forest- 6’2 295
143. Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, CB, Indiana (PA)- 6’1 205
144. Linval Joseph, DT, East Carolina- 6’6 322
145. Kevin Haslam, OT, Rutgers- 6’7 295
146. Freddie Barnes, WR, Bowling Green- 6’0 205
147. Chris Brown, RB, Oklahoma- 5’10 200
148. Jamar Chaney, LB, Mississippi St.- 6’1 240
149. C.J. Wilson, DE, East Carolina- 6’4 276
150. Kurt Coleman, S, Ohio State- 5’11 197

baronzeus
01-19-2010, 10:31 PM
I'm surprised to see Gresham as the 2nd TE on your list.

YAYareaRB
01-19-2010, 11:53 PM
Nice to see some Pitta Love. Go Cougz!

DaBrowns41
01-20-2010, 03:02 PM
I'm surprised to see Gresham as the 2nd TE on your list.

It's very close between him and Gronkowski at 2 and 3. Problem is that both of them have injury issues. If they check out, they both could be the top 2 TE's over Hernadez.

baronzeus
01-20-2010, 03:12 PM
It's very close between him and Gronkowski at 2 and 3. Problem is that both of them have injury issues. If they check out, they both could be the top 2 TE's over Hernadez.

I actually think he should be higher--under the assumption that he'll blow away the workouts (which we all expect). He pretty much has everything to be an elite TE (hands, speed, size, blocking, route running) and the only negative on him is durability because of his senior season.

DaBrowns41
01-20-2010, 03:16 PM
I actually think he should be higher--under the assumption that he'll blow away the workouts (which we all expect). He pretty much has everything to be an elite TE (hands, speed, size, blocking, route running) and the only negative on him is durability because of his senior season.

Yeah, and that's the only reason I don't have him in front of Hernandez.

If his physical checks out, he'll move ahead because he's the greater TE in terms of physical talent. Same with Gronkowski. He'll be a close 2nd to Gresham if he checks out.

This years TE class is turning out to be very, very solid.

Halsey
01-20-2010, 03:31 PM
You were complainging that Mays is overrated because you said he can't tackle or cover...yet you have him rated as the 28th best prospect? You must really think it's a weak draft when a guy you say can't cover or tackle is rated that high...

DaBrowns41
01-20-2010, 03:57 PM
You were complainging that Mays is overrated because you said he can't tackle or cover...yet you have him rated as the 28th best prospect? You must really think it's a weak draft when a guy you say can't cover or tackle is rated that high...

His potential is what's going to make him a first round prospect.

I thought that was pretty clear among anybody that knows college football. My fault.

RealityCheck
01-20-2010, 05:06 PM
Ducasse at 41st is doubtful, the guy is Top 20.

DaBrowns41
01-20-2010, 05:08 PM
It's really hard to tell where he'll go. He's a great talent, but the talent that I have listed in the top 20 is great as well.

RealityCheck
01-20-2010, 05:10 PM
And Jacoby Ford over Riley Cooper is a no.

DaBrowns41
01-20-2010, 06:52 PM
And Jacoby Ford over Riley Cooper is a no.

I think that Ford's speed is what is going to make him more coveted than Cooper. Cooper has good speed and solid hands, but Ford will bring that return man role, as well as an intriguing slot receiver possibility.

gpngc
01-20-2010, 06:54 PM
I think that Ford's speed is what is going to make him more coveted than Cooper. Cooper has good speed and solid hands, but Ford will bring that return man role, as well as an intriguing slot receiver possibility.

Ford is also an underrated receiver. He isn't just a return-guy at all. He'll make a fine pro wideout.

TheTerminator
01-20-2010, 09:09 PM
I think that Ford's speed is what is going to make him more coveted than Cooper. Cooper has good speed and solid hands, but Ford will bring that return man role, as well as an intriguing slot receiver possibility.

Cooper is a bit faster then just plain old "good speed" I think he is going to pull a Matt Jones and blaze a 4.38 40, which for his size, at 220lbs, is more impressive then a 175 pounder running a high 4.2.

DaBrowns41
01-21-2010, 04:19 PM
Cooper is a bit faster then just plain old "good speed" I think he is going to pull a Matt Jones and blaze a 4.38 40, which for his size, at 220lbs, is more impressive then a 175 pounder running a high 4.2.

We'll find out.

I'm not saying I don't like Cooper, because I think he's very talented, and he could be a very good #2 for a team. I just think teams will covet Ford more because his speed and breakaway ability, as well as soft hands.

ThePudge
01-21-2010, 04:48 PM
I'm working my way through my Pre-Senior Bowl Top 100. So, I'm going to just say where our lists differ.

Higher on my Board
Dez Bryant (10 --> 3)
Jermaine Gresham (26 --> 14)
Sean Weatherspoon (27 --> 15)
Brandon Graham (29 --> 13)
Golden Tate (34 --> 22)
Sergio Kindle (36 --> 21)
Damian Williams (50 --> 35)
Kareem Jackson (61 --> 31)
Demaryius Thomas (64 --> 40)
Morgan Burnett (81 --> 44)


Lower on my Board
Brian Price (12 --> 25)
Carlos Dunlap (16 --> 29)
Dan Williams (18 --> 41)
Aaron Hernandez (21 --> 47)
Jonathan Dwyer (23 --> 48)
Mardy Gilyard (31 --> 49)
Brandon Spikes (33 --> 57)
Ryan Matthews (45 --> Early Third-Early Fourth)
Darrell Stuckey (49 --> Early Third-Mid Fourth)
Brandon Ghee (53 --> Late Third-Early Fifth)

DaBrowns41
01-23-2010, 11:03 AM
I'm working my way through my Pre-Senior Bowl Top 100. So, I'm going to just say where our lists differ.

Higher on my Board
Dez Bryant (10 --> 3)
Jermaine Gresham (26 --> 14)
Sean Weatherspoon (27 --> 15)
Brandon Graham (29 --> 13)
Golden Tate (34 --> 22)
Sergio Kindle (36 --> 21)
Damian Williams (50 --> 35)
Kareem Jackson (61 --> 31)
Demaryius Thomas (64 --> 40)
Morgan Burnett (81 --> 44)


Lower on my Board
Brian Price (12 --> 25)
Carlos Dunlap (16 --> 29)
Dan Williams (18 --> 41)
Aaron Hernandez (21 --> 47)
Jonathan Dwyer (23 --> 48)
Mardy Gilyard (31 --> 49)
Brandon Spikes (33 --> 57)
Ryan Matthews (45 --> Early Third-Early Fourth)
Darrell Stuckey (49 --> Early Third-Mid Fourth)
Brandon Ghee (53 --> Late Third-Early Fifth)

Thanks for this.

I'm very interested to see how our boards change following the combine and then again, where they are drafted.

GoRavens
01-23-2010, 11:10 AM
Dez Bryant >>>>> Joe Haden! are you kidding me?

DaBrowns41
01-23-2010, 11:48 AM
I'd suggest you watch Joe Haden play before making such an observation.

GoRavens
01-23-2010, 11:55 AM
I've seen Joe Haden play plenty of games, cornerback is the hardest position in the NFL and I just don't see him being a stud, there's too many question marks with his game.. Dez Bryant on the other hand has no question marks at all.. He's a mans man at receiver, and will be a pro bowler for sure.

DaBrowns41
01-23-2010, 03:38 PM
I've seen Joe Haden play plenty of games, cornerback is the hardest position in the NFL and I just don't see him being a stud, there's too many question marks with his game.. Dez Bryant on the other hand has no question marks at all.. He's a mans man at receiver, and will be a pro bowler for sure.

Haden has covered some of the best receivers in college football, and shut them down. He's got all the physical tools you need, and is a great open field tackler. He's one of the guys in this draft with the least flaws.

Bryant is great, his problem is that he's not that fast. I think Bryant is a Pro-Bowl talent, but to say that he's >>>>>>> Haden is childish.

Babylon
01-23-2010, 03:56 PM
Gotta go with Haden in that debate. Bryant i think has some things to prove at the combine.