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redbills
01-26-2010, 10:53 AM
According to an ESPN report earlier this month, Alabama NT Terrence Cody weighed "right around" 355 pounds on January 5.
In other words, Cody appears to have gained 15 pounds (he measured 6'4/370 at the Senior Bowl) in the last 20 days. Cody's body appeared sloppy, to put it mildly, when he removed his shirt for Monday's weigh-in. While weight fluctuation is a routine concern for clogging, nose-tackle types, Cody is already resembling a late-career Ted Washington at age 21.
Source: ESPN.com

Wowz. What the hell did he eat over the 20 days?

prock
01-26-2010, 10:55 AM
fat ass...

zachsaints52
01-26-2010, 10:56 AM
Wowz. What the hell did he eat over the 20 days?

Its not about the quality.... but the quantity :)

fear the elf
01-26-2010, 10:58 AM
Its not about the quality.... but the quantity :)

For an already 355 lb man, it's probably both! ;)

RealityCheck
01-26-2010, 11:00 AM
That's gonna hurt him bad.

FUNBUNCHER
01-26-2010, 11:03 AM
Why invest big time guaranteed money in a guy like that?? Sure he has value as a player, but a rookie DT shouldn't be a specialist.

Is Cody even a 5th rounder at this point???

redbills
01-26-2010, 11:07 AM
If he doesn't drop some before the combine I still see him going into the 3rd/4th.

zachsaints52
01-26-2010, 11:09 AM
Why invest big time guaranteed money in a guy like that?? Sure he has value as a player, but a rookie DT shouldn't be a specialist.

Is Cody even a 5th rounder at this point???

Saints would GLADLY use our 2nd or 3rd on him. We don't need him to do much, just occupy space.

Hines
01-26-2010, 11:14 AM
I now don't want him at 18. Maybe second or third, but not the first.

YAYareaRB
01-26-2010, 11:15 AM
Try blocking that! hahaha

nofalcons10
01-26-2010, 11:16 AM
Why invest big time guaranteed money in a guy like that?? Sure he has value as a player, but a rookie DT shouldn't be a specialist.

Is Cody even a 5th rounder at this point???

except for the fact that what cody specializes at is what only 7 other defensive tackles in the league (pat williams, shaun rodgers, vince wilfork, haloti nagta, albert haynesworth, jamaal willias, kris jenkins) are capable of.

TACKLE
01-26-2010, 11:21 AM
I remember reading on SI that on their National Championship tour, Bama went to a steakhouse in California and Cody ate 64 ounces of prime rib. That guy needs to learn a little lesson in self control.

FUNBUNCHER
01-26-2010, 11:31 AM
except for the fact that what cody specializes at is what only 7 other defensive tackles in the league (pat williams, shaun rodgers, vince wilfork, haloti nagta, albert haynesworth, jamaal willias, kris jenkins) are capable of.

Haloti Ngata, AH, Jamaal Williams, and Kris Jenkins can also penetrate besides stop the run. They pursue and make tackles. Besides some similarities in runstopping, Cody shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as these players.

Cody is dead weight in the middle of the Dline, useful, but how high a pick do you use on him??

zachsaints52
01-26-2010, 11:32 AM
Haloti Ngata, AH, Jamaal Williams, and Kris Jenkins can also penetrate besides stop the run. They pursue and make tackles. Besides some similarities in runstopping, Cody shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as these players.

Cody is dead weight in the middle of the Dline, useful, but how high a pick do you use on him??

64th pick is fine with me :)

prock
01-26-2010, 11:34 AM
Haloti Ngata, AH, Jamaal Williams, and Kris Jenkins can also penetrate besides stop the run. They pursue and make tackles. Besides some similarities in runstopping, Cody shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as these players.

Cody is dead weight in the middle of the Dline, useful, but how high a pick do you use on him??

phat williams can really penetrate as well. he is so quick off the snap

fear the elf
01-26-2010, 11:40 AM
phat williams can really penetrate as well. he is so quick off the snap

Shaun Rodgers probably penetrates too often. That's why some Browns fans feel like we are a better defense when Rubin is in at NT.

nofalcons10
01-26-2010, 11:42 AM
Haloti Ngata, AH, Jamaal Williams, and Kris Jenkins can also penetrate besides stop the run. They pursue and make tackles. Besides some similarities in runstopping, Cody shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as these players.

Cody is dead weight in the middle of the Dline, useful, but how high a pick do you use on him??

yeah, dead weight like an anchor.


wilfork went #18 to the pats in 2004. in 6 years he has only 7 sacks but he will be one of the most sought after free agents in the league if the franchise tag is not applied by the pats.

norman hand signed a $30 million dollar contract with the saints in 2000 and pat williams signed a $22 contract with the vikings a couple years back at age 35.

space eaters are very valuable to alot of teams in divisions that run the ball alot.

nofalcons10
01-26-2010, 11:46 AM
phat williams can really penetrate as well. he is so quick off the snap

he also has only 20 sacks in 13 years.

Ted washington had a job starting in the league until he was 38 years old.

scar988
01-26-2010, 11:46 AM
I'd be shocked if he fell to the 3rd. but stranger things have happened. that being said I heard he was closer to 385 a few months back. but even then, he's a space eating NT. he will get picked by a 3-4 team with the need for one.

zachsaints52
01-26-2010, 11:47 AM
I'd be shocked if he fell to the 3rd. but stranger things have happened. that being said I heard he was closer to 385 a few months back. but even then, he's a space eating NT. he will get picked by a 3-4 team with the need for one.

Or a 4-3 team who can use him for first two plays and on third down move charles grant to DT and McCray/ drafted DE to have a very good 4 man rush.....

FUNBUNCHER
01-26-2010, 11:52 AM
If the Saints win the Lombardi, I bet they pass on Cody until VERY late in the draft.
A dude like Cody would just rub Gregg Williams the wrong way, IMO. Williams drives his players hard in practice, and if big boy needs a blow on the sideline every 90 seconds, GW just might punch him in the face!

zachsaints52
01-26-2010, 11:57 AM
If the Saints win the Lombardi, I bet they pass on Cody until VERY late in the draft.
A dude like Cody would just rub Gregg Williams the wrong way, IMO. Williams drives his players hard in practice, and if big boy needs a blow on the sideline every 90 seconds, GW just might punch him in the face!

It says he has major stamina and conditioning, not lack of work ethic... Show me please somewhere that says he doesn't try? Not trying to be a douchebag, just an actual honest question.

kennyb
01-26-2010, 11:59 AM
Saw some pictures of him at the weigh in. He makes that Alabama OT last year look like a Greek God.

nofalcons10
01-26-2010, 12:01 PM
If the Saints win the Lombardi, I bet they pass on Cody until VERY late in the draft.
A dude like Cody would just rub Gregg Williams the wrong way, IMO. Williams drives his players hard in practice, and if big boy needs a blow on the sideline every 90 seconds, GW just might punch him in the face!


LOL. do you not know that is exactly what remi ayodele does now?

the difference being that he can't stop the run like cody.

look at him getting worked by jeff faine. #92

http://www.nfl.com/videos/tampa-bay-buccaneers/09000d5d81548998/Cadillac-Williams-23-yard-TD-run

zachsaints52
01-26-2010, 12:02 PM
Saw some pictures of him at the weigh in. He makes that Alabama OT last year look like a Greek God.

If we drafted players on their physique, Vernon Gholston woulda been a pro bowler.

http://images.silverandblackpride.com/images/admin/Ghost.jpg

FUNBUNCHER
01-26-2010, 12:06 PM
It says he has major stamina and conditioning, not lack of work ethic... Show me please somewhere that says he doesn't try? Not trying to be a douchebag, just an actual honest question.

Stamina and conditioning are a byproduct of one's work ethic. Game intensity on a football first begins with superior conditioning. I don't expect Cody to be Ray Lewis from a conditioning standpoint, but if he shows up at the combine and can barely bench 12 reps or less, it would tell me Cody has gotten by in football because he's sorta athletic for someone pushing 4 bills, but he doesn't work much at all to improve his game.

I'm scared that Cody will be OVER 400# in 2 years and rarely see the field.

FUNBUNCHER
01-26-2010, 12:08 PM
If we drafted players on their physique, Vernon Gholston woulda been a pro bowler.

http://images.silverandblackpride.com/images/admin/Ghost.jpg

I see Hollywood bodyguard in Gholston's near future!!!

niel89
01-26-2010, 12:11 PM
http://media.al.com/press-register-sports/photo/codyjpg-e24e4d7e12dce4d6_medium.jpg

senormysterioso
01-26-2010, 12:15 PM
I wouldn't even have him on my draft board if I was a GM unless he shows a huge improvement by the combine. I like DT's that have some bulk and take up space, but 370 lbs is ridiculous. I wouldn't feel comfortable letting him take part in drills. He could keel over at any moment, you can not be 370 lbs and an athlete of any kind.

GoHuskers
01-26-2010, 12:20 PM
except for the fact that what cody specializes at is what only 7 other defensive tackles in the league (pat williams, shaun rodgers, vince wilfork, haloti nagta, albert haynesworth, jamaal willias, kris jenkins) are capable of.

Considering he got sealed all day(well he only played about 25% of the snaps, which is a full day for him) by a pathetic Texas O-Line I doubt he has any value as a run stuffer. You can't just be fat, the only value that has is as a QB Sneak defense, and even there he's shaky. He needs to drop 50 pounds to be a threat to make a team really.

nofalcons10
01-26-2010, 12:25 PM
Considering he got sealed all day(well he only played about 25% of the snaps, which is a full day for him) by a pathetic Texas O-Line I doubt he has any value as a run stuffer. You can't just be fat, the only value that has is as a QB Sneak defense, and even there he's shaky. He needs to drop 50 pounds to be a threat to make a team really.

what team is going to run directly at him huskers?

YAYareaRB
01-26-2010, 12:27 PM
except for the fact that what cody specializes at is what only 7 other defensive tackles in the league (pat williams, shaun rodgers, vince wilfork, haloti nagta, albert haynesworth, jamaal willias, kris jenkins) are capable of.

You missed Aubrayo Franklin! CHACHING!

GoHuskers
01-26-2010, 12:30 PM
what team is going to run directly at him huskers?

Any team in the NFL. He gets sealed easily, it might help if you actually watch film instead of compare weight and decide that he's some sort of prototype NT. Hell even the practice reports have him getting pushed around. Sorry but if you get sealed with a single block with regularity you aren't a factor in the run game.

senormysterioso
01-26-2010, 12:34 PM
Any team in the NFL. He gets sealed easily, it might help if you actually watch film instead of compare weight and decide that he's some sort of prototype NT. Hell even the practice reports have him getting pushed around. Sorry but if you get sealed with a single block with regularity you aren't a factor in the run game.

I hear this guy is looking for a job, he could be a nose tackle right?

http://neatorama.cachefly.net/images/2008-02/manuel-uribe-fattest-man-diet.jpg

GoHuskers
01-26-2010, 12:37 PM
I hear this guy is looking for a job, he could be a nose tackle right?

http://neatorama.cachefly.net/images/2008-02/manuel-uribe-fattest-man-diet.jpg

edited to protect the fragile.

FUNBUNCHER
01-26-2010, 12:38 PM
Was that last comment really necessary, Husker??

zachsaints52
01-26-2010, 12:38 PM
If he was black he could start for Alabama.

Yeah, thats not the way to go posting there new guy.

nofalcons10
01-26-2010, 12:39 PM
Any team in the NFL. He gets sealed easily, it might help if you actually watch film instead of compare weight and decide that he's some sort of prototype NT. Hell even the practice reports have him getting pushed around. Sorry but if you get sealed with a single block with regularity you aren't a factor in the run game.

yeah, okay.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgCHChIT57M

yeah anyone can see how easy it is to push this guy around.

you win dude.

GoHuskers
01-26-2010, 12:45 PM
yeah, okay.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgCHChIT57M

yeah anyone can see how easy it is to push this guy around.

you win dude.

lol @ his "highlight" tape consisting of him getting pushed around. Did you even watch it? I think I saw him make 3 plays, the other times he got free it was either a whiff or he was too slow to make a play anyways. I can pull up a highlight tape of any teams DT and it would be just as if not more impressive. Watch games before you speak.

zachsaints52
01-26-2010, 12:46 PM
lol @ his "highlight" tape consisting of him getting pushed around. Did you even watch it? I think I saw him make 3 plays, the other times he got free it was either a whiff or he was too slow to make a play anyways. I can pull up a highlight tape of any teams DT and it would be just as if not more impressive. Watch games before you speak.

Way to not address the other post that are related to you.

CLong4Heisman
01-26-2010, 12:48 PM
Why are people surprised about this? Sure its the Senior Bowl but I believe that Colt Brennan put on like 15 pounds between this and the combine 2 years ago.

GoHuskers
01-26-2010, 12:48 PM
Way to not address the other post that are related to you.

Why would I address them? People were offended at my joke, its not a big deal. I'll remove it so nobody gets their feelings hurt.

zachsaints52
01-26-2010, 12:50 PM
Why would I address them? People were offended at my joke, its not a big deal. I'll remove it so nobody gets their feelings hurt.

Yeah, its not about fragility. Its just flat out wrong. Yeah I knew it was a joke, but a tasteless one that doesn't deserve to be put on a site. Can tell your going to go a long way on these boards.

redbills
01-26-2010, 12:52 PM
lol, it was a joke get over it.

nofalcons10
01-26-2010, 12:53 PM
lol @ his "highlight" tape consisting of him getting pushed around. Did you even watch it? I think I saw him make 3 plays, the other times he got free it was either a whiff or he was too slow to make a play anyways. I can pull up a highlight tape of any teams DT and it would be just as if not more impressive. Watch games before you speak.

he's not there to make plays huskers. he's there to occupy space and not get blown off of the LOS which will free up others to make plays.

don't you remember sam adams and tony siragusa for the ravens in 2000 and what they did for ray lewis and peter boulware?

arhhhh, nevermind.

just forget it, you won't understand.

GoHuskers
01-26-2010, 12:53 PM
Yeah, its not about fragility. Its just flat out wrong. Yeah I knew it was a joke, but a tasteless one that doesn't deserve to be put on a site. Can tell your going to go a long way on these boards.

We have different views on thing, doesn't make me wrong. It wasn't even a racist joke, it was just pointing out how much his body type resembles Cody. Not really concerned about being "accepted" on the boards, I'm only hear to read what Scott Wright has to say anyways.

zachsaints52
01-26-2010, 12:54 PM
lol, it was a joke get over it.

Yet again it was a tasteless joke. Now if he said he could start at Bama I woulda probably laughed and all. Adding race was just dumb.

zachsaints52
01-26-2010, 12:55 PM
We have different views on thing, doesn't make me wrong. It wasn't even a racist joke, it was just pointing out how much his body type resembles Cody. Not really concerned about being "accepted" on the boards, I'm only hear to read what Scott Wright has to say anyways.

And I am not saying your racist, but you didn't have to add race to it.

GoHuskers
01-26-2010, 12:57 PM
he's not there to make plays huskers. he's there to occupy space and not get blown off of the LOS which will free up others to make plays.

don't you remember sam adams and tony siragusa for the ravens in 2000 and what they did for ray lewis and peter boulware?

arhhhh, nevermind.

just forget it, you won't understand.

If you can't make a play while demanding a single then you're invalid as a DT. Otherwise what would be the point in doubling an NT if they can't make a play? Facts are he doesn't command very many doubles in relation to any top 25 DT in this class, he can't stay on the field, and he can't consistently punish teams for singling him, can't rush a passer. If you can't demand a double you can't play in the 3-4, that's the bottom line. His best fit will be after he drops to 320 or so and can use his athleticism. He's not going to be a Ted Washington.

redbills
01-26-2010, 12:57 PM
And I am not saying your racist, but you didn't have to add race to it.

jesus christ it is the internet get over it dude.

zachsaints52
01-26-2010, 01:00 PM
I pm'd you so we can stay on the topic that Cody is a HUGE DT whose skills are different then others in this draft.

tjsunstein
01-26-2010, 01:00 PM
Why are people surprised about this? Sure its the Senior Bowl but I believe that Colt Brennan put on like 15 pounds between this and the combine 2 years ago.

Colt Brennan could afford to put on 15 pounds, he couldn't. Plus, Brennan's frame wasn't maxed out. If you're trying to make the point that it's possible to put on a lot of weight in that time, I'm not disagreeing with you.

TitanHope
01-26-2010, 01:04 PM
It's been said that Terrance Cody with dreads looks like a Star Wars creature. Maybe he ate an Ewok?

Also, Big Dan Williams says thank you for your sacrifice, tiny furry Ewokian friend. And I thank you for making me look like a homer prophet. :cool:

Also, what the crud is it with Alabama players and moobs?

Babylon
01-26-2010, 01:15 PM
http://media.al.com/press-register-sports/photo/codyjpg-e24e4d7e12dce4d6_medium.jpg

You prick you got us again.

nofalcons10
01-26-2010, 01:15 PM
If you can't make a play while demanding a single then you're invalid as a DT. Otherwise what would be the point in doubling an NT if they can't make a play? Facts are he doesn't command very many doubles in relation to any top 25 DT in this class, he can't stay on the field, and he can't consistently punish teams for singling him, can't rush a passer. If you can't demand a double you can't play in the 3-4, that's the bottom line. His best fit will be after he drops to 320 or so and can use his athleticism. He's not going to be a Ted Washington.

any play that is directed toward cody in the running game will garner a double. teams will single block sometimes during play action, designed roll-outs or 3-step drops and make cody chase the qb but not IN I-back, or out of apparent running formations.

the saints didn't double pat williams on sunday unless it was a designed run. we did the same thing against vince wilfork.


in the trenches when it comes to the running game, it only matters whether or not you can move your man out of the hole or stand your ground.

prock
01-26-2010, 01:19 PM
he also has only 20 sacks in 13 years.

Ted washington had a job starting in the league until he was 38 years old.

if you really dont think phat williams can penetrate, you dont watch very much football do you. phat is quick off the ball, splits guards and centers, and hits runningbacks as soon as they get the ball.

metafour
01-26-2010, 01:37 PM
Cody will drop to the 4th/5th round if he doesn't lose 20lbs by the combine.

He was never a 1st rounder BTW. Even if he shows up at 340-350lbs I'd expect him to go in the 2nd at best.

HindSight
01-26-2010, 01:38 PM
he's not there to make plays huskers. he's there to occupy space and not get blown off of the LOS which will free up others to make plays.

don't you remember sam adams and tony siragusa for the ravens in 2000 and what they did for ray lewis and peter boulware?

arhhhh, nevermind.

just forget it, you won't understand.
I thought siragusa's job was to body slam QBs into the turf and not get flagged for it, despite it being an obvious penalty.

nofalcons10
01-26-2010, 01:40 PM
if you really dont think phat williams can penetrate, you dont watch very much football do you. phat is quick off the ball, splits guards and centers, and hits runningbacks as soon as they get the ball.

there is a difference between pass penetration and penetration against the run.

pass penetration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiJ9lYyj4uQ

run penetration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTkyl2rCMic&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjjfuUDDDJA&feature=related

i've seen wilfork do the same thing as what you say williams does but i've never seen him display superior pass-rush ability like warren sapp.

nofalcons10
01-26-2010, 01:42 PM
I thought siragusa's job was to body slam QBs into the turf and not get flagged for it, despite it being an obvious penalty.

let it go. it was 10 years ago.

the raiders couldn't move the ball very well that game anyway with gannon in there.

CashmoneyDrew
01-26-2010, 02:00 PM
It's been said that Terrance Cody with dreads looks like a Star Wars creature. Maybe he ate an Ewok?

Also, Big Dan Williams says thank you for your sacrifice, tiny furry Ewokian friend. And I thank you for making me look like a homer prophet. :cool:

Also, what the crud is it with Alabama players and moobs?

Yup, good news for big daddy Dan Williams.

CLong4Heisman
01-26-2010, 02:34 PM
Colt Brennan could afford to put on 15 pounds, he couldn't. Plus, Brennan's frame wasn't maxed out. If you're trying to make the point that it's possible to put on a lot of weight in that time, I'm not disagreeing with you.

Im talking about since Colt put on 15 pounds that quick, why can't Cody lose that weight? He's going to go to some sort of training place where they limit what you eat and how much of it too. It's possible for him to come in at around 345 by the combine.

prock
01-26-2010, 03:05 PM
there is a difference between pass penetration and penetration against the run.

pass penetration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiJ9lYyj4uQ

run penetration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTkyl2rCMic&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjjfuUDDDJA&feature=related

i've seen wilfork do the same thing as what you say williams does but i've never seen him display superior pass-rush ability like warren sapp.

we just said penetrating the line. we never specified whether it be passing or running. phat is quick off the line and penetrates the line and ***** up the run. he penetrates the line, as i say.

CC.SD
01-26-2010, 03:17 PM
I think I am finally changing my mind on Cody, that **** is disgusting and if he's 370 now he's 400+ in 2 years at the very latest.

Babylon
01-26-2010, 03:32 PM
I think I am finally changing my mind on Cody, that **** is disgusting and if he's 370 now he's 400+ in 2 years at the very latest.

He's probably 4 bills by June.

Monomach
01-26-2010, 03:50 PM
Wowz. What the hell did he eat over the 20 days?

I don't think he gained a single pound since that report. I think he was just lying about his weight before.

brasho
01-26-2010, 03:52 PM
I think the question wouldn't be "What did he eat?" but should be "What didn't he eat?"

tjsunstein
01-26-2010, 03:54 PM
Im talking about since Colt put on 15 pounds that quick, why can't Cody lose that weight? He's going to go to some sort of training place where they limit what you eat and how much of it too. It's possible for him to come in at around 345 by the combine.

Any athlete, or person for that matter, could lose 20 pounds in a month if they were really dedicated to it. Bodybuilders do it all the time for competitions for example.

cajuncorey
01-26-2010, 03:59 PM
Wowz. What the hell did he eat over the 20 days?

babies, chrildren and adolesent males

Saints-Tigers
01-26-2010, 04:00 PM
I don't think Cody ever got out of the 365-370 range.

stephenson86
01-26-2010, 04:02 PM
Id just like to point out that ted washington towards the latter part of his career played up toward 400lbs and he was very effective in the 3-4 as a space eater, washington just couldnt be moved, cody is a 2 down NT and he is worth a 3rd rounder IMO he is very valuble to a 3-4 team

Whistler6
01-26-2010, 04:03 PM
You prick you got us again.

Here's a better look, enjoy. Might be time to consider a "bro". Or is it "Manzere"?

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/11/2010/01/thumb160x_terrence-cody.jpg

BigBanger
01-26-2010, 04:08 PM
Do people still consider this fat **** athletic? I don't know how many times I've seen people call this fat bastard "athletic and surprisingly quick for his size."

No, he's never been athletic and he isn't close to Pat Williams or Vince Wilfork- Two of the best NTs in the game.

Seeing Cody mentioned with the likes of the best, and some of the most complete, run stuffing DTs is an incredible insult to those guys.

cajuncorey
01-26-2010, 04:08 PM
Here's a better look, enjoy. Might be time to consider a "bro". Or is it "Manzere"?

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/11/2010/01/thumb160x_terrence-cody.jpg

hes gonna have to double up on the bras in order to contain those DD's

stephenson86
01-26-2010, 04:11 PM
thing that makes me laugh is he is flabby while a lot of the others a quite solid (NT's)

imraged
01-26-2010, 04:13 PM
It doesn't really take much to put on weight when you're not doing anything. If I'm not mistaken Hakeem Nicks put on about the same amount of weight last year because he didn't cut back on his calories when he wasn't working out. I'd imagine dealing with all the festivities and the like from the National Championship has left him little time to work out and old habits die hard as far as eating goes.

He got his weight down enough to meet the goals the Alabama coaching staff set for him. Who's to say he won't do the same for the combine and for whatever team drafts him? I really don't think motivation is the issue here and that's typically the main concern in cases like this.

Whistler6
01-26-2010, 04:14 PM
hes gonna have to double up on the bras in order to contain those DD's

Who'd you rather, Andre Smith or Terrence Cody?

stephenson86
01-26-2010, 04:17 PM
It doesn't really take much to put on weight when you're not doing anything. If I'm not mistaken Hakeem Nicks put on about the same amount of weight last year because he didn't cut back on his calories when he wasn't working out. I'd imagine dealing with all the festivities and the like from the National Championship has left him little time to work out and old habits die hard as far as eating goes.

He got his weight down enough to meet the goals the Alabama coaching staff set for him. Who's to say he won't do the same for the combine and for whatever team drafts him? I really don't think motivation is the issue here and that's typically the main concern in cases like this.

interesting you say that, i think they guy isnt a lazy slob i just think the kid loves to eat and will get himself to the weight he needs to get too, he seems to want to play ball and will shed the pounds he needs to too play

Whistler6
01-26-2010, 04:21 PM
interesting you say that, i think they guy isnt a lazy slob i just think the kid loves to eat and will get himself to the weight he needs to get too, he seems to want to play ball and will shed the pounds he needs to too play

Tim Tebow said after Florida's bowl game, he worked out every day leading up to the Senior Bowl. You'd think the thought of draft day, a several million dollar contract, and the chance to play in the NFL looming, a guy would WANT to be in tip-top shape when being put on display for the world to judge like that.

I don't buy the "having nothing better to do" argument.

imraged
01-26-2010, 04:25 PM
Besides that, I haven't had a chance to watch any of the NFL Network coverage or anything else but the local radio guys in Birmingham interviewed an unbiased scout and he said that Cody had looked great in practice besides the obvious conditioning issues.

brasho
01-26-2010, 04:59 PM
Im talking about since Colt put on 15 pounds that quick, why can't Cody lose that weight? He's going to go to some sort of training place where they limit what you eat and how much of it too. It's possible for him to come in at around 345 by the combine.

Colt had the flu right before the Senior Bowl that season and says he lost a lot of weight.. he then gained his weight back and then some (7-8 lbs) and didn't look all that fit at the combine.

Think about this:

McCluster = 165 lbs
Cody = 370 lbs

Cody is 205 lbs more than McCluster.... that's the exact same weigh-in total as Nate Allen of SFU.

superman8456
01-26-2010, 05:27 PM
Maybe I'm just ignorant, but I'm not really surprised by this weight gain. It's not that hard to gain fifteen pounds over a 20 day period after you have won a major championship. A lot of people and award committees take you out to fancy dinners and whatnot after you win something this big. I know this is one of the problems Ryan Howard had after he won the World Series.

It's easy to let exercise and training get to the wayside after this as well. I dont think this has much to say on his work ethic.

Edit: Granted this is the most important week of his young professional career thus far, I'm a little more understanding.

metafour
01-26-2010, 05:57 PM
Maybe I'm just ignorant, but I'm not really surprised by this weight gain. It's not that hard to gain fifteen pounds over a 20 day period after you have won a major championship. A lot of people and award committees take you out to fancy dinners and whatnot after you win something this big. I know this is one of the problems Ryan Howard had after he won the World Series.

It's easy to let exercise and training get to the wayside after this as well. I dont think this has much to say on his work ethic.

Edit: Granted this is the most important week of his young professional career thus far, I'm a little more understanding.

This is the dumbest excuse I've ever heard. Are you guys really going to play that?

This isn't a case of some 220lb cut monster getting carried away and putting on a few pounds after a big win. Its a case of a guy who has had serious weight problems for years now. Weight-watching for Cody should be a daily ritual, similar to a diabetic watching their sugar levels. Is it OK for a diabetic who won some "big game" to spend a week eating everything and anything? I mean he's getting invited to all these "fancy dinners and whatnot". Is it OK for a recovering alcoholic to celebrate a "big win" by getting drunk for a week straight afterward?

There is absolutely no excuse. Scouts had a number that they wanted him to come in at and he not only didn't come in at that number, he came in at a significantly higher number.

Saints-Tigers
01-26-2010, 06:18 PM
Tim Tebow said after Florida's bowl game, he worked out every day leading up to the Senior Bowl. You'd think the thought of draft day, a several million dollar contract, and the chance to play in the NFL looming, a guy would WANT to be in tip-top shape when being put on display for the world to judge like that.

I don't buy the "having nothing better to do" argument.

Well good for Tebow, maybe he should have spent every day after the bowl game learning to handle a snap.

cajuncorey
01-26-2010, 06:28 PM
Who'd you rather, Andre Smith or Terrence Cody?

http://tonybruno.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/andre-smith.jpg

definatly andre

Babylon
01-26-2010, 07:30 PM
http://tonybruno.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/andre-smith.jpg

definatly andre

Thanks for the visual. Right at dinner time too.

Iamcanadian
01-26-2010, 07:53 PM
Besides that, I haven't had a chance to watch any of the NFL Network coverage or anything else but the local radio guys in Birmingham interviewed an unbiased scout and he said that Cody had looked great in practice besides the obvious conditioning issues.

Cody may look very good in practice and play well during the game but both are cases where he gets lots of substition and doesn't have to put out for a whole 4 quarters. In the pros he will not be able to play well for 4 quarters and will run out of steam late in games at 370lbs.

Here's a picture of him at his weigh in.

http://blog.al.com/press-register-sports/2010/01/370_terrence_codys_size_is_a_w.html

prock
01-26-2010, 07:55 PM
Cody may look very good in practice and play well during the game but both are cases where he gets lots of substition and doesn't have to put out for a whole 4 quarters. In the pros he will not be able to play well for 4 quarters and will run out of steam late in games at 370lbs.

Here's a picture of him at his weigh in.

http://blog.al.com/press-register-sports/2010/01/370_terrence_codys_size_is_a_w.html

tiggle bitties.

niel89
01-26-2010, 09:40 PM
tiggle bitties.
4 real man.
http://simg.sportsbybrooks.com/c/8/c8906b0837339f7cfbd2c13c5d765abf_terencecodycombin ephoto.jpg

CC.SD
01-26-2010, 09:43 PM
*silently hopes and prays this does not transform into the mantitty thread.
Too late. Far too late.

GoRavens
01-26-2010, 10:06 PM
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/1001/nfl.cfb.senior.bowl.practice/images/terrence-cody-weigh-in.jpg

jeez louis
(2ND ROUND!)

D-Unit
01-26-2010, 10:13 PM
http://www.sun0769.com/news/photo/gj/W020090116354525319004.jpg

Cody is obviously in the wrong sport.

niel89
01-26-2010, 10:18 PM
Millions of dollars if you work hard for these next few months, come on man get it together.

CC.SD
01-26-2010, 10:20 PM
http://www.sun0769.com/news/photo/gj/W020090116354525319004.jpg

Cody is obviously in the wrong sport.

Competitive eating? Sumo?

Duffman57
01-26-2010, 11:15 PM
http://slanchreport.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/andre-smith.jpg

+

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.slashfood.com/media/2006/11/8th_burger2.jpg

=

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/1001/nfl.cfb.senior.bowl.practice/images/terrence-cody-weigh-in.jpg

Now who can deny that equation?

redbills
01-26-2010, 11:19 PM
well............
Alabama NT Terrence Cody said Tuesday that he plans to shed 30 pounds and get to 340 before his rookie season in the NFL.

If he's serious about shedding fat, Cody's weigh-in at next month's Scouting Combine will be telling. He could really damage his stock by showing up heavier. Cody's 370-pound Senior Bowl measurement was 21 heavier than his weigh-in prior to Alabama's 2009 season and 15 more than he weighed 16 days ago.
Source: Palm Beach Post

niel89
01-26-2010, 11:34 PM
If he is serious about it, Im sure he can throw off that 30 pounds. He has access to great facilities and great trainers. He also has a huge incentive to lose that weight.

stephenson86
01-27-2010, 06:45 AM
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/1001/nfl.cfb.senior.bowl.practice/images/terrence-cody-weigh-in.jpg

jeez louis
(2ND ROUND!)

is it just me or compared to a lot of the HEAVY WEIGHTS that have come into the NFL cody doesnt actually look that big....i know he weighed in at 370lbs, but he doesnt look big he looks fat but he looks like hes about 310

Also he can fly

http://blog.al.com/rapsheet/2008/07/large_Terrence%20Cody%20swim.jpg

CLong4Heisman
01-27-2010, 09:30 AM
that explains that tsunami a couple of years ago.

prock
01-27-2010, 09:33 AM
is it just me or compared to a lot of the HEAVY WEIGHTS that have come into the NFL cody doesnt actually look that big....i know he weighed in at 370lbs, but he doesnt look big he looks fat but he looks like hes about 310

Also he can fly

http://blog.al.com/rapsheet/2008/07/large_Terrence%20Cody%20swim.jpg

impressive, it looks like he jumped a whole 4 inches!

FUNBUNCHER
01-27-2010, 09:50 AM
is it just me or compared to a lot of the HEAVY WEIGHTS that have come into the NFL cody doesnt actually look that big....i know he weighed in at 370lbs, but he doesnt look big he looks fat but he looks like hes about 310

Also he can fly

http://blog.al.com/rapsheet/2008/07/large_Terrence%20Cody%20swim.jpg

Yeah, Cody looks 310#, if he was was 5'10!!:confused: Nowadays most 6'4+ 315# Olineman looks very lean and tapered, with little to no protruding gut. Joe Thomas and Jake Long come to mind when they weighed in at the combine. If you didn't know what position they played, just based upon their muscle tone they almost looked like TEs.

Terrence Cody is one big nasty mess. He has a lot of natural ability, obviously, but you can see he puts in no extra work during or after the football season.
Who would have thought there was another Alabama football player who makes Andre Smith look like Arnold Schwarzenegger??

That bustline is just offensive.

However, if Cody ever got dead serious about preparing his body to play the game of football, dropped all that blubber and put on some real muscle and topped out around 340-345#, he could be a phenom.

killxswitch
01-27-2010, 11:19 AM
Oh gross. One of his boobs has to weigh like 20 lbs.

Abaddon
01-27-2010, 12:03 PM
Yeah, its not about fragility. Its just flat out wrong. Yeah I knew it was a joke, but a tasteless one that doesn't deserve to be put on a site. Can tell your going to go a long way on these boards.

You sure do whine a lot...

brasho
01-27-2010, 12:30 PM
Any athlete, or person for that matter, could lose 20 pounds in a month if they were really dedicated to it. Bodybuilders do it all the time for competitions for example.

My wife has done two competitions and trust me on this one, bodybuilders DO NOT lose 20 lbs of body mass in a month. Sure, the scale may say they are 20 lbs less (and natural bodybuilders aren't likely to drop more than 10-15 in the last month) but the majority of that weight is water weight and the rest is a pretty even mix of fat AND muscle. Those guys (and girls) really have to kill themselves that last week to get the last 8-10 lbs of water off.

Cody could lose 20 lbs of fat in the next month only because he probably has to eat 6000+ calories a day to maintain his weight. It would be super easy for some of that fat to melt off just by eating like a normal human being.

Think of it this way. One pound of body mass is equal to 3500 calories. Everytime a person has a net gain or loss of 3500 calories they gain a pound of body weight. This could happen over a month or a week or even a day. Just using that formula alone, Cody could drop 7-10 lbs in one week just by cutting calories, hitting the weights to increase metabolism, and putting in some cardio to burn the calories.

It wouldn't be for a long time that Cody would ever have to worry about hitting a plateau because he has SO MUCH fat to lose.

brasho
01-27-2010, 12:33 PM
It doesn't really take much to put on weight when you're not doing anything. If I'm not mistaken Hakeem Nicks put on about the same amount of weight last year because he didn't cut back on his calories when he wasn't working out. I'd imagine dealing with all the festivities and the like from the National Championship has left him little time to work out and old habits die hard as far as eating goes.

He got his weight down enough to meet the goals the Alabama coaching staff set for him. Who's to say he won't do the same for the combine and for whatever team drafts him? I really don't think motivation is the issue here and that's typically the main concern in cases like this.

Yeah, right. This kid has been eating like crap for his entire life. Do you really think a big fat paycheck will suddenly motivate him to get in the best shape of his life? Just the idea of possibly getting a big fat paycheck (i.e. the Senior Bowl) couldn't convince him of that.

Abaddon
01-27-2010, 12:34 PM
Space eater...like Marcus Tubbs. Big help he was.

Cody couldn't even manage 15 minutes of practice. Couldn't even handle 50% of the snaps at the college level.

Dude is a bust. Burn a 5th round pick on him and hope he develops some sort of work ethic.

Abaddon
01-27-2010, 12:53 PM
Frank Okam. Lotta people liked him, too.

Abaddon
01-27-2010, 12:54 PM
Alan Branch...

Abaddon
01-27-2010, 12:56 PM
Gabe Watson...

stephenson86
01-27-2010, 01:12 PM
alan branch has been performing well in rotation as has gabe from what I know

CC.SD
01-27-2010, 01:13 PM
Postwhore! said the pot to the kettle.

Honestly with the rate DTs bust Cody is probably putting up too many red flags to be a first rounder right now. Although Scott seems high on him during this Senior Bowl week so who knows.

stephenson86
01-27-2010, 01:15 PM
Postwhore! said the pot to the kettle.

Honestly with the rate DTs bust Cody is probably putting up too many red flags to be a first rounder right now. Although Scott seems high on him during this Senior Bowl week so who knows.

I take him at the start of the third if he is there and fits the system, his potential if properly motivated is fantastic if not i waste a third round pick but his potential is to good for me to risk anyone else getting him

Shahin
01-27-2010, 01:59 PM
I hear this guy is looking for a job, he could be a nose tackle right?

http://neatorama.cachefly.net/images/2008-02/manuel-uribe-fattest-man-diet.jpg

why the **** is that guy smiling? makes me want to go over there **** my handback and slap the dog **** out of him.

Monomach
01-27-2010, 03:11 PM
Space eater...like Marcus Tubbs. Big help he was.

Cody couldn't even manage 15 minutes of practice. Couldn't even handle 50% of the snaps at the college level.

Dude is a bust. Burn a 5th round pick on him and hope he develops some sort of work ethic.

Ted Washington was 375ish for most of his career and kicked ass.

So who knows?

wogitalia
01-27-2010, 08:36 PM
I'm not that surprised by this and personally it doesn't affect my opinion of him. Cody may be the least complicated prospect in this draft. He is a huge human, who has conditioning and weight issues and is going to his whole career/life.

He is also an absolute monster to move in the middle and is going to be very effective in stuffing the run as he is as close to an immovable object as I have ever seen in a draft.

I still grade him as a late 1st for 3-4 teams and a mid 2nd for 4-3 teams who can afford the luxury pick(Vikes and Saints both come to mind on this side).

What you do need is a good conditioning staff that is going to stay on top of him but he looks just like I expected he would without his shirt and yes, he has some work to do.

nobodyinparticular
01-27-2010, 08:39 PM
phat williams can really penetrate as well. he is so quick off the snap

You know who else can penetrate really well? Travis Henry.

Oh wait, we weren't talking about that kind of penetration?

GoHuskers
01-28-2010, 08:35 AM
I'm not that surprised by this and personally it doesn't affect my opinion of him. Cody may be the least complicated prospect in this draft. He is a huge human, who has conditioning and weight issues and is going to his whole career/life.

He is also an absolute monster to move in the middle and is going to be very effective in stuffing the run as he is as close to an immovable object as I have ever seen in a draft.

I still grade him as a late 1st for 3-4 teams and a mid 2nd for 4-3 teams who can afford the luxury pick(Vikes and Saints both come to mind on this side).

What you do need is a good conditioning staff that is going to stay on top of him but he looks just like I expected he would without his shirt and yes, he has some work to do.
LOL he's the most immovable object you've ever seen in a draft? Have you watched a game this year?

Dark Knight01
01-29-2010, 12:35 AM
Wowz. What the hell did he eat over the 20 days?






Now lets see Cody run the 40 with his shirt off just like Andre Smith did and then see all the morons keep talking about his man boobs. LOL

I wonder who's man boobs are worse......Cody or Smiths.

Cody should NOT be drafted in the 1st round IMO. He is an overweight two down rotational player at the DT position who will always have weight issues.

Paul
01-29-2010, 12:42 AM
You are what you eat and Cody has obviously been snacking on some Walruses.

Abaddon
01-29-2010, 08:31 AM
Ted Washington was 375ish for most of his career and kicked ass.

So who knows?

He also had few issues with regards to playing a respectable number of snaps per game. Haven't seen Cody do that yet, and his competition ain't gonna get any easier now.

romo4prez415
01-29-2010, 11:01 AM
While he looked sloppy today at 370-pounds, sources close to the program told us Terrence Cody played near 385-pounds this season. He did have certain weight marks he was suppose to hit, but after the start of the season they were never monitored.

http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/?p=471

I happen to think Cody lied about his weight as well. He lost weight before when it came to playing at Bama and I think he'll do it again. I think he cares about the game of football but has a big eating problem. I'd still take him in the 2nd round because he's a dominant 2 down player and the stellar seasons for McCLain and Donta Hightower are a result of Cody and without him Bama wouldn't have won a national championship.

Saints-Tigers
01-29-2010, 11:50 AM
I heard he dominated yesterday, and also ran pretty well(all things considered), better than both Georgia linemen.

CC.SD
01-29-2010, 11:53 AM
http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/?p=471

I happen to think Cody lied about his weight as well. He lost weight before when it came to playing at Bama and I think he'll do it again. I think he cares about the game of football but has a big eating problem. I'd still take him in the 2nd round because he's a dominant 2 down player and the stellar seasons for McCLain and Donta Hightower are a result of Cody and without him Bama wouldn't have won a national championship.

I definitely agree with this, but the bottom line is that we have seen so many of these enormous guys eat themselves out of the league, and these numbers (380, 385, +++) are already so high that it's going to be an uphill battle to find a team fully willing to commit to Cody as their 1st pick. Still would love to see him in lightning bolts.

FUNBUNCHER
01-29-2010, 11:57 AM
He's too risky for a first or 2nd rounder, IMO. After that, I have no problem with a team rolling the dice on his BIIIGGG butt.

Sad in a way, because if Cody was 325# he might be one of the top 3 DTs in the draft.

Saints-Tigers
01-29-2010, 12:18 PM
I don't think Cody has the body type to ever be like 325. He's too tall, and he's just massive, his arms are long and huge, his frame is huge, etc.

killxswitch
01-29-2010, 12:59 PM
I don't think Cody has the body type to ever be like 325. He's too tall, and he's just massive, his arms are long and huge, his frame is huge, etc.

I have trouble believing any human under 7' tall cannot live with being 325 lbs.

Saints-Tigers
01-29-2010, 01:01 PM
I have trouble believing any human under 7' tall cannot live with being 325 lbs.


Oh, he can live for sure, but he's a huge guy and just his normal sustaining body weightis going to be huge, and if he's doing football related things, he's going to carry some bulk either way.

killxswitch
01-29-2010, 01:17 PM
Oh, he can live for sure, but he's a huge guy and just his normal sustaining body weightis going to be huge, and if he's doing football related things, he's going to carry some bulk either way.

I still consider 325 lbs. some serious bulk. He's not that tall, what is he 6'4?

Vince Wilfork is one of the widest humans I've ever seen, frame-wise, and he is only 325. I think Cody could get there if he tried, I doubt his strength would suffer at that weight. At 335-340ish he could probably be effective.

Paul
01-29-2010, 01:18 PM
Wilfork is so odd. He's built like a cube.

FUNBUNCHER
01-29-2010, 06:58 PM
People used to think former Bills #1 OT Mike Williams couldn't sustain any weight below 360# in the pros either.
When he contacted the SKins about making a comeback over the summer, he was 410#. But the start of the regular season, he was below 330#. He lost the weight almost too fast, and therefore had a slight drop in strength, but now Mike WIlliams in a position to compete for a starting gig in Shanahan's ZBS.

If Cody wants to anything more than a freak show in the NFL, a 30 pound weight loss is an absolute minimum for him.

Someone should give him Big Mike's telephone #.

brasho
01-30-2010, 08:26 AM
Shanahan loves the light guys. I have a feeling that MIke Williams will be looking for another job soon. Also, considering the sad state of the Redskins' OLine this season I'm not sure he's a shining example, yet. They had practice squadders getting reps at one point, didn't they?

Did you really hear he got in the 330-range? I heard 350 but I don't pay much attention to the Redskins.

FUNBUNCHER
01-30-2010, 10:29 AM
It was the biggest story of the Skins offseason, Mike Williams imitation of the incredible shrinking man. He and Derrick Dockery are boyz from Texas and Big Mike was crashing at his house when he suddenly decided he wanted to play pro ball again.
He got down to under 330# at one point, and played most of the season in the 330-332# range. Because the weight gain was so fast, he lost strength and hadn't fully regained his quickness, but he did become good enough to be a starter.

Powerhouse22112
01-30-2010, 09:54 PM
If the Patriots/ Vince Wilfork situation gets uglier I can see the Pats using a second on Cody. They won't let that weight get out of hand.

RealityCheck
01-31-2010, 09:58 AM
If the Patriots/ Vince Wilfork situation gets uglier I can see the Pats using a second on Cody. They won't let that weight get out of hand.
No, I'd use nothing more than a 4th on Cody right now.

BuffaloBillsFan
01-31-2010, 12:29 PM
Cody should strive to be bout 330-335lbs, he would be excellent at that weight.

Nalej
01-31-2010, 12:34 PM
If the Patriots/ Vince Wilfork situation gets uglier I can see the Pats using a second on Cody. They won't let that weight get out of hand.

They drafted R.Brace last year in the 2nd. I doubt they take Cody this year.
Plus, Wilfork isn't going anywhere!!!

nofalcons10
01-31-2010, 01:59 PM
i keep hearing that cody might eat himself out of the league in 5 years but teams like the

saints
patriots
vikings
dolphins

aren't concerned with what is going to happen in 2016.

they are built to win now.

Shere Khan
02-01-2010, 08:23 AM
Man, what's up with these Alabama boys ballooning up so quickly?

First it was Andre Smith, now its Terrence Cody.