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billsfootball15
01-26-2010, 10:30 PM
Just wondering who you think the top 10 offensive linemen are this year. Not necessarily who gets drafted first, but rank it as who you think are the best prospects. The majority of the players will be tackles but I think it will be interesting to see where a guy like Mike Iupati will fall.

1. Anthony Davis, T, Rutgers
2. Russell Okung, T, Oklahoma St.
3. Brian Bulaga, T, Iowa
4. Mike Iupati, G, Idaho
5. Trent Williams, T, Oklahoma
6. Vlad Ducasse, G/T, UMass
7. Bruce Campbell, T, Maryland
8. Maurkice Pouncey, C, Florida
9. Charles Brown, T, USC
10. Jon Asamoah, G, Illinois

This list is based on scouting reports I have read and videos I have seen of each prospect. The only guy I have watched consistently is Anthony Davis (rutgers FTW!!), but I really believe he has the blend of size and athleticism to be a premier tackle in the NFL.

That is what my perception of the offensive linemen in this years draft is and Im real curious to see how other people would rank them and I think it would be interesting to see where guys like Ducasse and Iupati fall on this list.

OaklandRaider56
01-26-2010, 10:42 PM
Off the top of my head...

1.) Mike Iupati
2.) Bryan Bulaga
3.) Anthony Davis
4.) Jon Asamoah
5.) Russell Okung
6.) Jason Fox
7.) Bruce Campbell
8.) Vlad Ducasse
9.) Zane Beadles
10.) Pouncey

princefielder28
01-26-2010, 10:48 PM
1. Mike Iupati
2. Anthony Davis
3. Russell Okung
4. Bryan Bulaga
5. Trent Williams
6. Vladimir Ducasse
7. Bruce Campbell
8. Rodger Saffold
9. Jason Fox
10. Charles Brown

YAYareaRB
01-26-2010, 10:50 PM
1. Russell Okung
2. Anthony Davis
3. Mike Iupati
4. Bryan Bulaga
5. Trent Williams
6. Vlad Duccasse
7. Bruce Campbell
8. Maurkice Pouncey
9. Zane Beadles
10. Jason Fox

11. Jared Veldheer

Giantsfan1080
01-26-2010, 10:52 PM
Of course I'm going to have Davis #1.

1. Davis
2. Bulaga
3. Okung
4. Iupati
5. Williams
6. Campbell
7. Ducasse
8. Powncey
9. Fox
10. Haslam

I wanted to be a Rutgers homer.

prock
01-26-2010, 11:33 PM
1. Okung
2. Davis
3. Bulaga
4. Iupati
5. Williams
6. Campbell
7. Ducasse
8. Pouncey
9. Jason Fox
10. Charles Brown

SenorGato
01-27-2010, 01:41 AM
Overall O-line?

1. Iupati - Best pure G prospect since Hutchinson.
2. Bulaga - Don't like him as a T prospect but it could happen. Love him as a LG prospect in the mold of Steinbach or even Gallery.
3. Brown - Highest upside, most athletic LT prospect with good technique and a good pedigree.
4. Okung - Same as Brown, but more pro ready.
5. Fox - I'm going really conservative on this pick. He'll be a really good OL, probably at RT.
6. Ducasse - I think he fits right about here. Nice upside as a RG.
7. Davis - Might end up a G, but very nice upside as a LT prospect.
8. Campbell - Long term might end up at RT, but size and athleticism are pluses.
9. Williams - Not his biggest fan.
10. Tennant - Just because there should always be a BC OL listed.

vidae
01-27-2010, 03:24 AM
1. Anthony Davis
2. Mike Iupati
3. Russell Okung
4. Vlad Ducasse
5. Trent Williams
6. Jason Fox
7. Bryan Baluga
8. Bruce Campbell
9. Maurkice Pouncey
10. Kris O'Dowd

stephenson86
01-27-2010, 05:19 AM
i dont really have an opinion but has anyone noticed the quality OL coming out over the past 5 years? 4 maybe but still what is contributing to this?

JFLO
01-27-2010, 06:12 AM
1. Russell Okung
2. Anthony Davis
3. Mike Iupati
4. Trent Williams
5. Bruce Campbell
6. Bryan Bulaga
7. Vladimir Ducasse
8. Maurkice Pouncey
9. Jason Fox
10. Charles Brown

Had a tough time not putting Tennant at the 10 spot, so he is def. 11

oldman9er
01-27-2010, 07:50 AM
1. Russell Okung
2. Bryan Bulaga
3. Anthony Davis
4. Mike Iupati
5. Mike Johnson
6. Bruce Campbell
7. Charles Brown
8. Maurkice Pouncey
9. Jason Fox
10. Jon Asamoah

DiG
01-27-2010, 08:16 AM
all the anthony davis over okung talk feels pretty premature to me. not saying that at the end of the day davis couldnt improve his stock, primarily via combine, but right now i think it is a definite reach to put him ahead of okung. i do like davis, dont get me wrong, but come on now.

no bare feet
01-27-2010, 08:25 AM
Russell Okung, AnthonyDavis, Mike Iupati,Bryan Bulaga, Vladimer Ducasse, Matt Tennant, Maurkice Pouncey, Mike Johnson, Bruce Campbell, Trent Williams

Grizzlegom
01-27-2010, 08:44 AM
1. Russell Okung
2. Mike Iupati
3. Brian Bulaga
4. Trent Williams
5. Anthony Davis
6. Bruce Campbell
7. Maurkice Pouncey
8. Charles Brown
9. Jon Asamoah
10. Vladimir Ducasse

RaiderNation
01-27-2010, 01:05 PM
1 Anthony Davis
2 Mike Iupati
3 Russell Okung
4 Bryan Bulaga
5 Trent Williams
6 Vlad Ducasse
7 Maurkice Pouncey
8 Jon Asamoah
9 Bruce Campbell
10 Charles Brown

brat316
01-27-2010, 01:23 PM
No stand out centers this year.

Big Black
01-27-2010, 02:04 PM
1. Okung
2. Bulaga
3. Iupati
4. Davis
5. Pouncey
6. Williams
7. Campbell
8. C. Brown
9. Ducasse
10. M. Johnson

Hurricanes25
01-27-2010, 11:27 PM
1. Mike Iupati
2. Anthony Davis
3. Russel Okung
4. Bryan Bulaga
5. Bruce Campbell
6. Trent Williams
7. Vlad Ducasse
8. Maurkice Pouncey
9. Jason Fox
10. Charles Brown

Jakey
01-28-2010, 12:30 AM
Pouncy is massivly underated!

killxswitch
02-12-2010, 12:13 PM
No stand out centers this year.

Maurkice Pouncey?

bored of education
02-12-2010, 12:53 PM
This is my order for Offensive Linemen:

1. Russ Okung as an LT or Rt
2. Vad Ducasse as an RT
3. Anthony Davis as an LT
4. Mike Iupati as G
5. Maurkice Pouncey as G/C
6. Bryan Bulaga as RT or LT
7. Bruce Campbell as LT
8. Trent Williams as LT or RT
9. Charles Brown LT or RT
10. Tony Washington LT or RT

Next in line: Tennant, Mike Johnson, Jon Jerry, Jason Fox, Calloway, Veldheer, JD Walton,

killxswitch
02-12-2010, 01:17 PM
This is my order for Offensive Linemen:

1. Russ Okung as an LT or Rt
2. Vad Ducasse as an RT
3. Anthony Davis as an LT
4. Mike Iupati as G
5. Maurkice Pouncey as G/C
6. Bryan Bulaga as RT or LT
7. Bruce Campbell as LT
8. Trent Williams as LT or RT
9. Charles Brown LT or RT
10. Tony Washington LT or RT

Next in line: Tennant, Mike Johnson, Jon Jerry, Jason Fox, Calloway, Veldheer, JD Walton,

Surprised you listed Brown as a possible RT but Campbell as LT only.

bored of education
02-12-2010, 02:58 PM
Surprised you listed Brown as a possible RT but Campbell as LT only.

I must've overlooked that I like Campbell personally more of an LT and I think thats his best fit. I should added the RT

thule
02-12-2010, 03:03 PM
Campbell is going the be the 1st or 2nd tackle off the board. I find it funny that noone has him in their top 5.

TACKLE
02-12-2010, 03:47 PM
Campbell is going the be the 1st or 2nd tackle off the board. I find it funny that noone has him in their top 5.

Really? Campbell has great physical tools but is mediocre player on the field. I've watched him several times and have never come away impressed. He is a major project and fringe first rounder based off what he could be 3 or 4 years down the road. But he has done nothing on the field to warrant being the first or second tackle taken.

thule
02-12-2010, 03:53 PM
Really? Campbell has great physical tools but is mediocre player on the field. I've watched him several times and have never come away impressed. He is a major project and fringe first rounder based off what he could be 3 or 4 years down the road. But he has done nothing on the field to warrant being the first or second tackle taken.

Campbell is the best pure LT in this draft. Can fit any scheme. He was as consistant as Clady was coming out. People here are sleeping on him..whether or not he deserves to be the #1 or #2 OT off the board is easily debatable...but I'd be willing to bet he is taken high. His stock should fly after the combine...and that is when you'll see guys like McShay and Kiper hyping him...then everyone on this board will follow like it was their idea. Point is for a team looking for a prolific LT Campbell is the only guy that makes sense. Of course this all comes down to if he checks out injury wise...but all the other tackles have Jake Long concerns as far as if they can play LT. They are scheme LTs....not exactly pure....Campbell is the only guy in this class that you can say it about. For this reason I think he is selected in the top half of the 1st round.

Giantsfan1080
02-12-2010, 04:07 PM
Davis is a pure LT also. He can excel in both the pass and run game. He's also going to turn even more heads during the combine.

thule
02-12-2010, 04:13 PM
Davis is a pure LT also. He can excel in both the pass and run game. He's also going to turn even more heads during the combine.

I'm also extremely high on Davis. However with more and more teams running a combo blocking/zone blocking plays than ever this is where davis is lacking. Davis is one of those guys who can lineup and beat his guy because of his natural ability...you'll never see him get beat twice. Mental lapses are usually the cause of him being beat in the first place. However when you look at Campbell he's done everything on tape that you look for in a NFL LT. He has been dominant at times when doing every single aspect. Now his consistancy isn't on a NFL level...but this is the draft...teams project players which is why we see talent getting overdrafted. Campbell is not going to be the 6-10 OT drafted like everyone on the first page has.

Babylon
02-12-2010, 04:17 PM
Campbell is the best pure LT in this draft. Can fit any scheme. He was as consistant as Clady was coming out. People here are sleeping on him..whether or not he deserves to be the #1 or #2 OT off the board is easily debatable...but I'd be willing to bet he is taken high. His stock should fly after the combine...and that is when you'll see guys like McShay and Kiper hyping him...then everyone on this board will follow like it was their idea. Point is for a team looking for a prolific LT Campbell is the only guy that makes sense. Of course this all comes down to if he checks out injury wise...but all the other tackles have Jake Long concerns as far as if they can play LT. They are scheme LTs....not exactly pure....Campbell is the only guy in this class that you can say it about. For this reason I think he is selected in the top half of the 1st round.

Campbell is on my all combine team but i'd really question whether he is the same prospect as Ryan Clady at a similar stage, i thought Ryan was much more of a sure thing.

TACKLE
02-12-2010, 04:18 PM
Campbell is the best pure LT in this draft. Can fit any scheme. He was as consistant as Clady was coming out. People here are sleeping on him..whether or not he deserves to be the #1 or #2 OT off the board is easily debatable...but I'd be willing to bet he is taken high. His stock should fly after the combine...and that is when you'll see guys like McShay and Kiper hyping him...then everyone on this board will follow like it was their idea. Point is for a team looking for a prolific LT Campbell is the only guy that makes sense. Of course this all comes down to if he checks out injury wise...but all the other tackles have Jake Long concerns as far as if they can play LT. They are scheme LTs....not exactly pure....Campbell is the only guy in this class that you can say it about. For this reason I think he is selected in the top half of the 1st round.

I see a lot more Winston Justice in him than I do Ryan Clady. I like Justice a lot more than I like Campbell. I guess you could say he's a pure LT because he is just flat out bad in the run game. He plays way too high and gets little to know push. Everyone knows he'll test well and I think people are factoring that in their evaluations. But film has to be the primary source of evaluation and Campbell hasn't shown it on film. Winston Justice and Marcus McNeil were kind of similar prospects and they lasted to the second round. Personally, I will be surprised if come draft day, Campbell is a first round pick let alone a Top 15 selection.

Giantsfan1080
02-12-2010, 04:22 PM
I'm also extremely high on Davis. However with more and more teams running a combo blocking/zone blocking plays than ever this is where davis is lacking. Davis is one of those guys who can lineup and beat his guy because of his natural ability...you'll never see him get beat twice. Mental lapses are usually the cause of him being beat in the first place. However when you look at Campbell he's done everything on tape that you look for in a NFL LT. He has been dominant at times when doing every single aspect. Now his consistancy isn't on a NFL level...but this is the draft...teams project players which is why we see talent getting overdrafted. Campbell is not going to be the 6-10 OT drafted like everyone on the first page has.

Well Campbell is the ultimate boom/bust OT in this year's draft so you will get a wide variety of ideas on where he ranks. Even though Davis hasn't done it yet I think he can fit in any scheme. Davis is going to be the youngest player in the NFL as soon as he's drafted so I'm sure some coaching staff will fall in love with him because of the crazy upside he has.

thule
02-12-2010, 04:24 PM
Campbell is on my all combine team but i'd really question whether he is the same prospect as Ryan Clady at a similar stage, i thought Ryan was much more of a sure thing.

I don't think Clady is a good prospect comparison because he didn't have the injury knocks. Just that on tape Clady was dominant in all aspects of the game at times...yet he was highly inconsistant. Using that as the basis of the arguement they are similar. However Campbell's injury concerns are the reason he's not being highly regaurded as one of the top 3 OTs by most people at this point in the process.

thule
02-12-2010, 04:27 PM
I see a lot more Winston Justice in him than I do Ryan Clady. I like Justice a lot more than I like Campbell. I guess you could say he's a pure LT because he is just flat out bad in the run game. He plays way too high and gets little to know push. Everyone knows he'll test well and I think people are factoring that in their evaluations. But film has to be the primary source of evaluation and Campbell hasn't shown it on film. Winston Justice and Marcus McNeil were kind of similar prospects and they lasted to the second round. Personally, I will be surprised if come draft day, Campbell is a first round pick let alone a Top 15 selection.

Winston Justice was a classic case of a college player. He was on a ultra talented team...and he did his job. I don't see the comparison at all. Justice wasn't a superb athlete at all. His inability to project to the left side I think was one of the biggest reasons he fell. McNeil is only a similar prospect because of the injury concerns...although his were back related. He was also looked at as a RT only by most teams in the process. I just don't think we are tlaking about the same Campbell...those names are not very close to Campbell as prospects are concerned.

thule
02-12-2010, 04:28 PM
Well Campbell is the ultimate boom/bust OT in this year's draft so you will get a wide variety of ideas on where he ranks. Even though Davis hasn't done it yet I think he can fit in any scheme. Davis is going to be the youngest player in the NFL as soon as he's drafted so I'm sure some coaching staff will fall in love with him because of the crazy upside he has.

Believe me I love davis....noone in this class has the ability to dominant one on one like he does. The only concern I have is how does he work in space. And I think that is ultimately why he isn't the top OT in this class.

SenorGato
02-12-2010, 04:45 PM
Campbell is the best pure LT in this draft. Can fit any scheme. He was as consistant as Clady was coming out. People here are sleeping on him..whether or not he deserves to be the #1 or #2 OT off the board is easily debatable...but I'd be willing to bet he is taken high. His stock should fly after the combine...and that is when you'll see guys like McShay and Kiper hyping him...then everyone on this board will follow like it was their idea. Point is for a team looking for a prolific LT Campbell is the only guy that makes sense. Of course this all comes down to if he checks out injury wise...but all the other tackles have Jake Long concerns as far as if they can play LT. They are scheme LTs....not exactly pure....Campbell is the only guy in this class that you can say it about. For this reason I think he is selected in the top half of the 1st round.

You know I used to think Campbell was highly overrated, but lately I've been thinking more like this.

He, Davis, and Brown (USC) are going to fly up boards come combine...

bengalbuck
02-13-2010, 01:33 AM
I've never seen Campbell play so I have no real opinion one way or the other.

I will add though that the criticisms of him are very similar to those of Jared Gaither who fell pretty far in the supplemental draft. He has turned into a really good LT for the Ravens though.

SenorGato
02-13-2010, 02:25 AM
I've never seen Campbell play so I have no real opinion one way or the other.

I will add though that the criticisms of him are very similar to those of Jared Gaither who fell pretty far in the supplemental draft. He has turned into a really good LT for the Ravens though.

He's a big, athletic OT with first round potential...legit guys like that always go high. Since he can develop into a legit LT teams will give him a look and he'll grade out.

I have him going to the Packers but that doesn't actually mean anything.

billsfootball15
02-13-2010, 02:38 PM
Campbell is going the be the 1st or 2nd tackle off the board. I find it funny that noone has him in their top 5.

only chance that happens is if Al Davis falls in love with his combine numbers and takes him at pick 8. Otherwise, Okung, Davis, and either Bulaga or Williams will go before him imo.

cajuncorey
02-13-2010, 02:58 PM
i know there are many knocks on bruce campbell... but hes is easily the best pure prospect in the draft, hes literally a freak of nature and he just has to prove his football ability. hes might very well bench over 40 times and run under 4.8 at the combine. i know it dont mean much but i just cant see him being a bust

thule
02-13-2010, 03:03 PM
i know there are many knocks on bruce campbell... but hes is easily the best pure prospect in the draft, hes literally a freak of nature and he just has to prove his football ability. hes might very well bench over 40 times and run under 4.8 at the combine. i know it dont mean much but i just cant see him being a bust

So you can't see the fact that he has limited experience on the field 16 games? And a list of prior injuries. Skill wise he is close to elite imo...however you can't be a blind homer and say you can't see him busting. He has more concerns than the rest of the top 5 OTs.

cajuncorey
02-13-2010, 05:22 PM
So you can't see the fact that he has limited experience on the field 16 games? And a list of prior injuries. Skill wise he is close to elite imo...however you can't be a blind homer and say you can't see him busting. He has more concerns than the rest of the top 5 OTs.

hes my homer pick of the draft lol

BigBanger
02-13-2010, 08:06 PM
Campbell is not going to be the 6-10 OT drafted like everyone on the first page has.
I'll tell you why Campbell is that low. The rest isn't completely directed at you. Just venting on this POS.

His game tape is atrocious. Let me repeat: ATROCIOUS. To even begin to compare him to Ryan Clady who was down right dominant in games and easily the second best tackle prospect in his draft class is an absurd joke. Clady was inconsistent, yes. But his technique was pretty good. He played with a broken ******* hand his senior year!! He gave up sacks to pieces of garbage who should have never beaten him, but even in those games, he was still impressive. He would have a few plays here and there that made you think, "Why is this little 6'1'' 230 LB from Hawii beating him for a sack?" And you know, that shouldn't happen. People want to question his focus, I have no problem with that. Call him inconsistent even though he was more than dominant? Again, I have no problem. People not mentioning the fact that he played with a broken hand? Whatever. His level competition? Fine. But the mans size, length athletic ability AND his technique are what made him such a high draft pick. It wasn't just his size, length and athletic ability.

But to compare his inconsistent play with Bruce Campbell's god awful play and inability to keep his head up when pass blocking is a joke. Either you never saw Ryan Clady or you never saw Bruce Campbell or you haven't seen either.

They are not similar. You wont find many who are. Campbell is rated low because there's no game tape to back it up and most people have him ranked there because everyone else does. If he does well at the Combine, well, I guess that is to be expected, right?

I don't care what you say about his speed, 40 time and athletic ability. You watch the guy on the field and you will see NONE OF THAT. He looks like he's playing a sport he's never played before. When he looks bad, he looks bad. All these comparisons to good college players should just stop. Campbell was awful in college and has been a huge disappointment.

Selvish Capers has all these great tools everyone wants to talk about, but he ******* sucks. Simple as that. It is simple as that. I've been saying this for months. Athletic ability only matters to guy who have some idea how to pass protect in the first place. If Campbell is getting his hands swatted away like a red headed step child reaching for cookies and looking like a complete fool, then guess how much I care about his bench press numbers? He could do 85 ******* times. I see 6'1'' guys swatting his hands away and getting him so off balance it is appalling.

Him being so low has nothing to do with injury. It has everything to do with him looking like a steaming pile of **** on Saturdays.

He is not anywhere close to being one of the best offensive tackle prospects in this draft. Not close. He's not one of the best prospects like some have said. He might be the best project. More than likely, you will get nothing from him, but if he does sit for a couple years and he does develop, then you could have something. So if he pans out does that mean scouts were wrong? No, it means he played like ****, got drafted where he should have been drafted and succeeded for the first time in his life at Football. If he goes first round, then he's one of the front runners for being one of the easiest busts to predict.